I laughed so hard when you FINALLY recognised Ethan Hawke. I love this movie, it's not a happy ending but the moment when Todd stands up, when he's spent the entire movie trying to be small and not get noticed, always moves me. "O Captain, my Captain." The poem is about the loss of a leader and the grief of seeing them fall, so it feels fitting in the moment. Mr Keating might not have been able to change the administration of that school, but he changed every boy's life, especially Todd's. It's just so tragic what happened to Neil. (Knox's storyline definitely aged like milk.)
I get what you’re saying about the ending, but there was no way Keating could have kept his job after the school had decided to make him the scapegoat, not at that school and not during that era. The best the boys could do was let him know that they didn’t blame him for Neil’s death and that they appreciated what he had taught them.
I think I was expecting this to be a bit more of a kids movie going in, and kids movies usually have a happy ending, so this really caught me off guard. I still feel like that ending was not a good outcome for all the characters involved. But I respect the story and that the writers wanted to highlight something more subtle, and not do the whole "and then they arrested Red Foreman for being an asshole" angle
This is the very first time I saw Robin Williams in a dramatic role. And I was just... Wow. I miss him. And I think the point of the ending, was that the boys showed Keating that he DID make a difference in their lives. The lessons he taught them took root, and it wasn't all for nothing.
The play Neil was in: Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream. He played Puck. I saw an interview with Ethan Hawke, who said that when his kids watched the movie, one of them asked over halfway through, "Where're you, Dad?" So you're not alone in not recognizing him. I thought it was a perfect ending. This movie was set in the late 1950's, when people weren't so prone to such lawsuits as they are today. In a private school like that, the cadre ruled. I attended 12 years of Catholic school 1959-1971, and it was the same thing: the priests and nuns were not questioned by students or parents. I read somewhere that Kurtwood Smith, who plays Neil's father, attended the premiere and noticed a family seated nearby in which the domineering father was acting just like his character in the film. After the movie was over, the man was crying. To me, that was the point of the movie - to show the audience how a parent/teacher influences children. Because of the varying influences, the class ended up with one boy dead, several cowed by the system and the ones who stood on the desks having evolved into men. We didn't need to know how Mr Keating fared afterward. He got his happy ending.
Yeah... no school official is going to accuse a grieving parent of being responsible for the child's death. However, I think it's unfair to say that nothing changed. Todd found his voice in a very strong, public way, and he set an example for others to follow. I don't know if you noticed that not all of the students who stood up were members of the DPS; they were just as strongly inspired by Keating within the confines of the classroom. Those boys were likely expelled, and Keating's fate was awful, but at least he had the comfort of knowing that he made a real difference with his students, and at least they found strength in themselves they may not have known they had. Thank you for a lovely reaction.
I disagree with your interpretation of the ending. You say nothing changed. But the act of defience at the end from the boys shows the system is crumbling. Once there is a spark of freedom in someones mind you can´t go back to how it was. And in my opinion the movie ending is at the same time realistic and optimistic, because you know now the boys don´t have power, but the moment they grow up and become the men in charge the systems gonna change.
Yes exactly. In recent years people seem to have forgotten that this movie is depicting kids who are essentially the landed gentry of the US. If their minds are changed, and they inevitably get into positions of power (expelled or not it doesnt really matter) then everythings going to change
Err ... yes and no. Again, this is a very upper-class WASPish school. With the exception of Neil, pretty much everyone at this school is a "trust fund baby." So, someone like Charlie was always going to cash in his chips, buy a barge on the Seine, have his wine and cigarettes, and paint Notre Dame five million times. So, even though you have some outliers, this school and these types of people are pretty much going to be conservative. So, Nolan and the rest of the administration will stay in power. Also, since the movie was set in 1959, you would not discuss mental health, either. The whole point of the eventual outcome was to sweep Neil and everything that came with it, under the rug. Look how fast Nolan buried Keating after it happened. And sure, you might have one teacher, McAllister, use a little bit of Keating, but the rest of the teachers will still be stuffy and uncompromising. "The first 20 questions are due tomorrow!" And Welton would just hire a younger version of Nolan to then teach English for the next term. Think of Nolan's initial speech that blends both the prep school's mission and the class it serves together. You want party boys and only once every five years you get one and only one student admitted to Harvard or Cambridge? You go up three miles to the public high school that Chet and Chris go to. You want to have a very good chance every year you can get into those schools and have the structure and discipline to succeed there? You pay the big bucks and you come here. It's just that simple. And it's outcome is also fairly simple. It's going to produce a lot of "Cameron the Fink's." I mean, think. Even the sports are different. Rowing and soccer. Not football or basketball. And so no, this school and many of its students will be unchanged. It is uncompromising. Nolan will retire in a decade, and the trustees will get someone just like him to replace him. They would continue on their "Leave It to Beaver" like ways, as opposed to opening up to the hippie movement. They will continue to churn out future doctos, lawyers, investment bankers, and engineers. Because they are the elite. Not for the commoner. So he is right. Overall, particularly with just this school, not much will change. And even outside this school, for the most part ... the wealthy will stay wealthy.
Yes I took Latin in high school (early 1990s) in addition to Spanish. Latin helps you with with English vocabulary and to decipher most any Romance language as written (tho not as pronounced - look at you Frenchies!). Very helpful for Western European travel. Also helped me in law school with the many Latin legal phrases. Dr. Jordan was my Latin teacher. She was tough but good at it. I was fortunate to be in a very good public school district in the NYC suburbs and about half my teachers had doctorates (several were former college professors). A nice job by Williams here but his best dramatic roles were Good Will Hunting and Awakenings …and in a dramedy- Good Morning Vietnam.
I had a teacher like this. Chemistry though. He created a Chemistry III for us. I didn't major in Chemistry in college, but my daughter did. That inspiration skipped a generation.
You asked a question. Six months later I'm answering it. Yes. I took Latin in a school of nothing but girls wearing uniforms that had better be worn properly. I took Latin because it is a dead language and must therefore be considered a science...and I hated science, but loved literature. I was taught by some of the coolest nuns on the planet. The school was called Ursuline Academy. This country wouldn't be the dump it is today if everyone was afforded the education and discipline we had. I'm not a hardass or a prig. I just think we began losing civilization when we began losing our table manners. Thank you, television, for intspiring the TV dinner that was the wedge in the door to disrupt all the things the dinner table once was. It was the place we learned to avoid doing things that grossed other people out, the place where the ability to carry on a conversation was fostered. It was where we practiced respect for authority, in that we didn't interrupt when our parents were conversing. If we had anything to say, we held that thought until the proper moment. Above all, it was the place we learned to eat our Brussels sprouts.
Yes they teach Latin and it was an absolute waste of my time and my teacher didn’t like me making it more unbearable. The only thing I remember is “Cerberus in via dormant” “Cerberus (the dog’s name) is sleeping in the street”
I went to an all-girls boarding school in the UK from 1990 to 2000 and my friends and I adored this movie and watched it often. We may also have re-enacted that final scene a few times. I sometimes wonder if it’s one of the reasons I went on to study English literature (and History). I certainly appreciated it’s message that literature can be fun. And yes, we studied Latin. It was mandatory for two years and then you could choose if you wanted to keep it up. I didn’t.
I hope you react to more Peter Weir films! He’s also an Aussie lol. The Truman Show is my favorite but I adore Picnic at Hanging Rock too, there’s something so surreal about that film.
I´m from Germany and I had 6 years of Latin in school. In many schools in germany it´s common till today, that everyone learns english as second language and than you can choose between french or latin as third language. Only in recent years they startet to change it to french or spanish in a lot of schools or depending on where in Germany you live you can learn the language of the neighbour country (like polish, tschech or netherlands).
Latin is still a class offered in some upper class high schools in the United States - usually taken by students who plan on getting degrees in science or medicine.
It was a mandatory class for everyone in my school (can't remember if it was 7th or 8th grade). But the teacher had a fairly significant speech impediment and I still mispronounce Latin words because that's the way I learned them 🤣
Robert Shawn Lennon was in Swing kids . The acting was one of a kind, much like Robin Williams. Please consider rwacting to swing kids i hardly see any reactiona to it
I laughed so hard when you FINALLY recognised Ethan Hawke. I love this movie, it's not a happy ending but the moment when Todd stands up, when he's spent the entire movie trying to be small and not get noticed, always moves me. "O Captain, my Captain." The poem is about the loss of a leader and the grief of seeing them fall, so it feels fitting in the moment. Mr Keating might not have been able to change the administration of that school, but he changed every boy's life, especially Todd's. It's just so tragic what happened to Neil. (Knox's storyline definitely aged like milk.)
Ethan Hawke talks about how his mom showed the film to his children and half way through they ask him when does he show up.
@@reliablereindeer I wonder if they've seen *Explorers* (1985).
The hair was so different I could understand that
I get what you’re saying about the ending, but there was no way Keating could have kept his job after the school had decided to make him the scapegoat, not at that school and not during that era. The best the boys could do was let him know that they didn’t blame him for Neil’s death and that they appreciated what he had taught them.
I think I was expecting this to be a bit more of a kids movie going in, and kids movies usually have a happy ending, so this really caught me off guard. I still feel like that ending was not a good outcome for all the characters involved. But I respect the story and that the writers wanted to highlight something more subtle, and not do the whole "and then they arrested Red Foreman for being an asshole" angle
This is the very first time I saw Robin Williams in a dramatic role. And I was just... Wow.
I miss him.
And I think the point of the ending, was that the boys showed Keating that he DID make a difference in their lives. The lessons he taught them took root, and it wasn't all for nothing.
The play Neil was in: Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream. He played Puck. I saw an interview with Ethan Hawke, who said that when his kids watched the movie, one of them asked over halfway through, "Where're you, Dad?" So you're not alone in not recognizing him. I thought it was a perfect ending. This movie was set in the late 1950's, when people weren't so prone to such lawsuits as they are today. In a private school like that, the cadre ruled. I attended 12 years of Catholic school 1959-1971, and it was the same thing: the priests and nuns were not questioned by students or parents.
I read somewhere that Kurtwood Smith, who plays Neil's father, attended the premiere and noticed a family seated nearby in which the domineering father was acting just like his character in the film. After the movie was over, the man was crying. To me, that was the point of the movie - to show the audience how a parent/teacher influences children. Because of the varying influences, the class ended up with one boy dead, several cowed by the system and the ones who stood on the desks having evolved into men. We didn't need to know how Mr Keating fared afterward. He got his happy ending.
Robert Shawn Lennon was also in Swing Kids I recommend
Yeah... no school official is going to accuse a grieving parent of being responsible for the child's death. However, I think it's unfair to say that nothing changed. Todd found his voice in a very strong, public way, and he set an example for others to follow. I don't know if you noticed that not all of the students who stood up were members of the DPS; they were just as strongly inspired by Keating within the confines of the classroom. Those boys were likely expelled, and Keating's fate was awful, but at least he had the comfort of knowing that he made a real difference with his students, and at least they found strength in themselves they may not have known they had.
Thank you for a lovely reaction.
Elements of this film were based on the school I was educated at. In 1994 our school performed this film on the stage.
The play is A Midsummer Night's Dream by Bill Shakespeare.
If you havent watched Good Will Hunting, Robin is amazing in it.
I disagree with your interpretation of the ending. You say nothing changed. But the act of defience at the end from the boys shows the system is crumbling. Once there is a spark of freedom in someones mind you can´t go back to how it was. And in my opinion the movie ending is at the same time realistic and optimistic, because you know now the boys don´t have power, but the moment they grow up and become the men in charge the systems gonna change.
Yes exactly. In recent years people seem to have forgotten that this movie is depicting kids who are essentially the landed gentry of the US. If their minds are changed, and they inevitably get into positions of power (expelled or not it doesnt really matter) then everythings going to change
Err ... yes and no. Again, this is a very upper-class WASPish school. With the exception of Neil, pretty much everyone at this school is a "trust fund baby." So, someone like Charlie was always going to cash in his chips, buy a barge on the Seine, have his wine and cigarettes, and paint Notre Dame five million times.
So, even though you have some outliers, this school and these types of people are pretty much going to be conservative. So, Nolan and the rest of the administration will stay in power. Also, since the movie was set in 1959, you would not discuss mental health, either. The whole point of the eventual outcome was to sweep Neil and everything that came with it, under the rug. Look how fast Nolan buried Keating after it happened.
And sure, you might have one teacher, McAllister, use a little bit of Keating, but the rest of the teachers will still be stuffy and uncompromising. "The first 20 questions are due tomorrow!" And Welton would just hire a younger version of Nolan to then teach English for the next term.
Think of Nolan's initial speech that blends both the prep school's mission and the class it serves together. You want party boys and only once every five years you get one and only one student admitted to Harvard or Cambridge? You go up three miles to the public high school that Chet and Chris go to. You want to have a very good chance every year you can get into those schools and have the structure and discipline to succeed there? You pay the big bucks and you come here. It's just that simple. And it's outcome is also fairly simple.
It's going to produce a lot of "Cameron the Fink's."
I mean, think. Even the sports are different. Rowing and soccer. Not football or basketball.
And so no, this school and many of its students will be unchanged. It is uncompromising. Nolan will retire in a decade, and the trustees will get someone just like him to replace him. They would continue on their "Leave It to Beaver" like ways, as opposed to opening up to the hippie movement. They will continue to churn out future doctos, lawyers, investment bankers, and engineers.
Because they are the elite.
Not for the commoner.
So he is right. Overall, particularly with just this school, not much will change. And even outside this school, for the most part ... the wealthy will stay wealthy.
@meierlinksd4996 Wow you completely missed the point.
I think it's the dream of any "good" teacher to have a student tell them that they affected their life in a positive way
OH CAPTAIN, MY CAPTAIN! Makes me tear up every time❤❤❤
Yes I took Latin in high school (early 1990s) in addition to Spanish. Latin helps you with with English vocabulary and to decipher most any Romance language as written (tho not as pronounced - look at you Frenchies!). Very helpful for Western European travel. Also helped me in law school with the many Latin legal phrases. Dr. Jordan was my Latin teacher. She was tough but good at it. I was fortunate to be in a very good public school district in the NYC suburbs and about half my teachers had doctorates (several were former college professors).
A nice job by Williams here but his best dramatic roles were Good Will Hunting and Awakenings …and in a dramedy- Good Morning Vietnam.
Tip: Watch Hamilton with the Closed Captioning turned on for a first watch.
Great advice
Oh captain my captain.
Man I miss Robin so much.
Remember, this is set in 1956 - a rich boarding school
6:12 Yes, I learned Latin at private school in 3rd grade and then again in 8th. Definitely helped with the spelling bee.
I had a teacher like this. Chemistry though. He created a Chemistry III for us. I didn't major in Chemistry in college, but my daughter did. That inspiration skipped a generation.
Oh, and I’m very excited about a reaction to Hamilton. It’s so frickin’ good!
Has anyone seen "The World According to Garp"? That is another amazing piece of Robin's work!
"I don't give a **** about tradition" why am I not surprised? 😂😂😂😂
You asked a question. Six months later I'm answering it. Yes. I took Latin in a school of nothing but girls wearing uniforms that had better be worn properly. I took Latin because it is a dead language and must therefore be considered a science...and I hated science, but loved literature. I was taught by some of the coolest nuns on the planet. The school was called Ursuline Academy.
This country wouldn't be the dump it is today if everyone was afforded the education and discipline we had. I'm not a hardass or a prig. I just think we began losing civilization when we began losing our table manners. Thank you, television, for intspiring the TV dinner that was the wedge in the door to disrupt all the things the dinner table once was. It was the place we learned to avoid doing things that grossed other people out, the place where the ability to carry on a conversation was fostered. It was where we practiced respect for authority, in that we didn't interrupt when our parents were conversing. If we had anything to say, we held that thought until the proper moment. Above all, it was the place we learned to eat our Brussels sprouts.
I, for one, appreciate your contributions
Yes they teach Latin and it was an absolute waste of my time and my teacher didn’t like me making it more unbearable. The only thing I remember is “Cerberus in via dormant” “Cerberus (the dog’s name) is sleeping in the street”
Peter Weir is such a brilliant director!
I went to an all-girls boarding school in the UK from 1990 to 2000 and my friends and I adored this movie and watched it often. We may also have re-enacted that final scene a few times. I sometimes wonder if it’s one of the reasons I went on to study English literature (and History). I certainly appreciated it’s message that literature can be fun.
And yes, we studied Latin. It was mandatory for two years and then you could choose if you wanted to keep it up. I didn’t.
The main guy who killed himself you probably recognize from House
Ha! I do!!
One of my favorite all time movies
I hope you react to more Peter Weir films! He’s also an Aussie lol. The Truman Show is my favorite but I adore Picnic at Hanging Rock too, there’s something so surreal about that film.
@@digapygmy70 I love Peter Weir films! Witness is also good, and Green card, too.
I took 3 years of Latin in High School, 1977-1981
"Nuwanda" was actually an interesting character
In retrospect, Nuwanda should have been on my background lol
I did Latin in school in 2017, I even did a spelling bee!
I´m from Germany and I had 6 years of Latin in school. In many schools in germany it´s common till today, that everyone learns english as second language and than you can choose between french or latin as third language. Only in recent years they startet to change it to french or spanish in a lot of schools or depending on where in Germany you live you can learn the language of the neighbour country (like polish, tschech or netherlands).
Lara Flynn Boyle wasn’t actually the chick. She was the sister of Chet Danbury (the boyfriend). Her scene got deleted.
Latin is still a class offered in some upper class high schools in the United States - usually taken by students who plan on getting degrees in science or medicine.
It was a mandatory class for everyone in my school (can't remember if it was 7th or 8th grade). But the teacher had a fairly significant speech impediment and I still mispronounce Latin words because that's the way I learned them 🤣
😯😯😯We're getting Hamilton?!?! I CAN'T FRIGGIN WAIT!
School Ties is another amazing movie. Also, have you seen Patch Adams? If not, please do.
I had 2 years of Latin in high school. It was fun. In a dead language sort of way.
Knox needs to watch that Tea & Consent video before attending any more parties.
Until about twenty-five years ago, Knox’s actions were considered very romantic.
Excuse me? You haven't seen Mrs. Doubtfire?
I think you may has misheard something lol. I saw it as a kid a bunch of times
this always reminds me alot of "the wave" im not sure why, different sides of the same coin maybe....
I took one year of Latin in high school and got a 41%. Lmfao 😅
Robert Shawn Lennon was in Swing kids . The acting was one of a kind, much like Robin Williams. Please consider rwacting to swing kids i hardly see any reactiona to it
The poem about the Congo is by Vachel Lindsay, who was a huge weeaboo about >>The N*gro
Part 2 Nolan is involved in a molestation scandal and Keating returns with a fully automatic weapon and goes Columbine killing 57.