Jokić wins 3rd MVP award in 4 seasons: Was Shai Gilgeous-Alexander snubbed? | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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- Skip Bayless, Paul Pierce and Keyshawn Johnson react to the NBA naming Denver Nuggets center Nikola Jokic the league’s most valuable player. Jokic wins his 3rd MVP in four seasons, however Skip believes Oklahoma City Thunder guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander should’ve taken home the trophy.
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Why does skip always bring up jokic in Philly but purposely never brings up embiid being to scared to play in Denver. Embiid is a coward and this year has cemented that.
FIX THE VOLUME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is your video editor another Lebronsexual? This stupid low volume has been an issue for couple years now! You're effectively trying to censor Skip by dissuading the audience from listening. You can't even normalize the sound wth closing message. Whoever's in charge of this videos should already get fired!
@@stephenmarkelov1829That stupid video editor should already get fired!
Skip since you like cherry-picking ststs heres another one for you.. Jokic this season has led in every advanced metric: VORP, PER, BPM, WS/48... Jokic was 1st in all of those stats and by a hefty lead. SGA was even 4th in some of them like VORP behind Luka and Giannis and 3rd in PER and BPM. One of the best ways to measure a players impact on a teams success is on/off metrics - points per 100 possessions. SGA added 10 points/ 100 possessions and was above every player in the NBA except for Jokic. Jokic added 19 points/ 100 possessions (nearly double Shai’s contribution to his teams success). Jokic clearly elevates his team unlike any other player.
No one mentioned Jamal missed 23 games this season. Joker still held em down to a first place tie.
fax
They struggled with Murray out the lineup
Bradley beal missed over 40 games and 35 year old KD aint get no credit
@jasongordan Poor KD only had Booker, lol. And they finished 6th.
SGA didn’t have Jamal in 82 games
Joker is so good for so long that people forget how crazy what he is doing is
Kat is locking him down
Kat won’t continue to outplay him That definitely won’t continue
What is he doing that's so mind blowing? Joker is a great player, but you shouldn't have an award locked up by the All Star Break. That tells me politics are deciding this and no matter how good Luka and SGA played, it didn't matter. That's not right.
@@mr.anderson3694Leads the league in offensive win shares, plus/minus, and PER while averaging 26 12 9....
Do you know nothing about basketball?
@@jasongordanshows that you don’t watch the games wolves are rotating 3 bigs to handle jokic there’s no big in the league that can lock jokic up .
Sadly, national TV should not be the deciding factor for an award.
It isnt
Agreed. Def plays a role
Just because Pierce said it doesn't mean it's true.Jokic is a WAY better player!
@@steveoshei1819 - I’m an OKC fan yet I love watching Jokic and Denver play - except when they play my team. If ya play straight up against him then he’s really a no-excuses, work hard kind of player. Luckily, we got the better of Denver (3-1) this year; I hope we get to play again in the playoffs because that would be a great series.
I think there’s some truth to what Pierce says about the media influence, not just because he says it, but because I’ve heard others say very similar things.
Don’t punish Joker because we expect him to play great every game. He’s the only player, that if he doesn’t get a triple double, he had a bad night. That’s crazy. He’s a complete player and impacts the game with not only points, but rebounds and assists. No other player does that and does it at an elite level. Well deserved.
Russell Westbrook did that and only got 1 mvp. People hated his triple doubles but the W-L record for games he got triple double vs without they claimed was an overrated stat.
He only got 1 mvp because he did it very inefficiently and he didn’t win. Joker doesn’t get the mvp this year if he didn’t win the chip last year
@@Halfdozengp what are you saying is inefficient? His shots? A triple double also included rebounds and assist. Which he actually averaged more than one season at 6’3.
@@stephonhopkins4569Because he didn’t live up to his MVP in the playoffs
@@user-lt1fx2he5s regular season mvp has nothing to do with the playoffs lol jokic has 3 MVPs but 1 title. What does that mean?
Skip about SGA "he's got 6 assist, his not a point guard", Joker is obviously point guard
What about 2 steals
@@jimmykarlsson2567joker has most as a center
@@jimmykarlsson2567& Jokic was top 10 in steals.
@@evropa3570 top 10 amongst centers???
C'mon now everyone knows that Jokic ain't a defensive stopper.
C'mon
@@evropa3570SGA lead in steals and deflection and he plays better D than Jokic
Skip mentioning Embiid giving Joker the business in Philly last year but leaving out how Embiid aint played in Denver in like 4 seasons lmao.
Skip doesn't watch games it's his job to watch.
All i remember is Embiid avoiding Jokic like plague
If Luca had won the first game he would have been the one snubbed, recency bias.
Exactly! 😂
Jokić should've got it last year too.
Yup
Without any doubt
Same way Embid should have gotten the 2nd one Jokic won. Popular consensus was for Embid. It was the lackluster game Embid had against Giannis that unfairly swayed it to Jokic. In all seriousness, the MVP is just a media popularity/exposure award.
@@timothyihongbestop crying
MVP well deserved
Jokic stats:
10th in ppg (5th in total)
4th in RPG (3rd in total)
3rd APG (2nd in total)
2nd in field goals made
8th in steals
58.3 field goal %
65% true shooting
9th in minutes played
1st in PER
1st in win shares
1st box plus/minus
1st in VORP
1st in PIE
2nd in triple doubles
On floor +11.6
Off floor -8.4
On/off = +20
1st player to total 2000/900/700
Its the main media fault. Weve been saying this all year and definitely in the playoffs.
Denver is 1-3 vs thunder
Sga hit a gamer winner in denver and another game scored 40
#1 in steal
#2 in point per game
Its definitely the main media fault.
Okc #1 in the west #2 best team in all of the nba
Like gtfoh.
2nd yougest team in the nba and are 5-0 in the playoffs and nuggets are 0-2 in the second round
In the playoffs sga is 28/9/9
Shaq a real one for this as well
Okc is #2 in defense #3 in scoring.
Make it make sense
@@HollaIfYaHemi392 you named two of the only stats of all stats SGA has the lead in. If you think only averaging more points and assists means you had a better year, thats crazy. Yes, the thunder is #1 but they literally have the same record as denver. So just because Denver lost to the Spurs at the end of the year, that automatically makes SGA the MVP. If the Thunder had way more wins than Denver I would give being #1 more weight. Thirdly, playoffs stats don't matter. All in all, Jokic deserved the award. The only reason there is even a debate is because we got used to Jokic's insane numbers so we act like averaging 26, 13, and 9 on damn near 60 percent shooting isn't groundbreaking
Show his defensive numbers..... exactly
@@ausar09 exactly, and this is one of the reasons they’re gonna get gentleman’s swept
Wolves in 4, get ready for that 🧹🧹🧹🧹
Paul Pierce like that cool uncle😂😂
P after Dark
@@raoulhery what?
Really? I think he’s corny
Who never shuts up
He The Truth
Keyshawn threw a shot at skip " worry bout your cowboys " after skip said about jamal murray is in laker hall of fame 😂😂😂😂
Yeah but Keyshawn forgot they ain't talking about fotboll now, do they
it hit a nerve towards keyshawn so bro had to bring up a whole different sport team🤣🤣🤣
But why did Skip mention Murray and the Lakers?
@@mayvafitness3174Cause he owns them lol
@@mayvafitness3174because he whoops the lakers everytime they play them
You'll acting like SGA played with a bunch of scrubs..Just because you don't know their names doesn't mean they aren't good..Jdub plays like a star and Chet would have been one of the best ROTY if not for an alien called Wemby.. They were the healthiest team with great continuity
Exactly.... best shooting team in the league... take away the fraudulent foul calls Shea Shea gets... and he is very average....
OKC has the best roster top to bottom in the league...Denver has one of the worst
Facts
Just because Murray or Porter Jr didn't didn't get the nod for the all-star game doesn't mean they aren't all-stars.
@@Tony525_ That's an idiotic if not outrightly biased false statement - Denver has 5 starters scoring in double figures more than any team in the NBA this season.
Jokic 110% deserved it.
He overtook Jordan as the most efficient player of all time (PER). Its not freaking close.
The entire team revolves around him and he does everything at the highest efficiency. Not to mention 23 of those games were without 'all star' Murray.
The reason SGA 30 points were so quiet is bc he got them all from the free-throw line 😂
And garbage time
He gets so many bs calls!
SGA is even worse than Embiid and Harden combined. You can’t respect his game.
Every MVP Award in every sport should be given out after the last game is played of the regular season before the playoffs start.
Agreed!
I dont know why the NBA waits so long.
@tonyOn1ce just creates controversy. I think they just want the league talked about as much as possible. Jokic was the runaway after the Lakers series and now some are acting like he's an undeserving bum because he's down 0-2 to Minnesota.
Agree 1000%
Anyone who watches Basketball can decipher from regular season and post season. It is a “regular season” MVP. Evaluate it on that. MVP is not a stat award. Stats can factor in the result. At the end of the day anyone who truly watches basketball without a bias opinion can see that clearly Joker is the most valuable player on a winning team. Shai is good, but he is not the key factor in why his team is good. Some can say the coach factors in just as much the way he has the team playing. As a Lakers fan. Joker is the MVP
Shaq done jokic dirty.. cause shaqs reaction was seen by all because they announced it.. now people are rolling with this.. jokic deserves for past 2 seasons .
CONGRATULATIONS JOKER ON YOUR 3RD MVP AWARD. 👏 👏
IT IS WELL DESERVED.
Go tell that for ya mama
BS
@@lintahpius1112
The Joker is a triple double threat every game, and he has never played with another allstar teammate throughout his NBA career.
Even Murray missed 23 games this season,and 17 games last season, and he missed the whole 2020,21season.
The Joker is basically a lone wolf 🐺
There's no argument you can make for SGA other than "I'm tired of Jokic winning MVPs". His stats are much better, his efficiency is much better, so what are we even talking about here.
But SGA is best dressed
SGA beat Denver 3-1, including a game winner. Took a worse , younger and less expirenced team to the first seed. Would have won potentially 60 games had Shai not gotten injured. He's a better defender and just MORE VALUABLE to his team, then Jokic is for the more veteran nuggets who beat the clippers WITHOUT Jokic or Murray this season. Regardless of the "stat stuffing".
Like Jokic fans CLOWN bron fans for caring about stats instead of intaglibles or whatever, yet turn around and stat ride their guy Jokic even harder then Bronsexuals do for Lebron.
Like this is one of the reasons ppl do not mess with Jokic - fair or unfair. His (bandwagon) fanbase, are just on another level of toxic.
Shai should have been MVP. But it's fine. I'm happy for Nikola himself, if nothing else.
But I hope he gets swept by Jordan Jr. and his timberwolves, and Jokic's bandwagon fanbase once again return to the sewage holes they crawled out of from. Good riddance!
Stat padding is easy. Shai actually plays defense and is the alpha on his team. Joke can't do anything without Murray.
@@user-dn3fn3bg4l You can't sit there and argue that injuries affected the Thunder given that the Nuggets had Murray out for 23 games. You're basing your take that the Thunder are worse on what? Sure they're younger and inexperienced but they're a great team regardless. Jalen and Chet are no joke.
There is the argument that SGA is black and for most ack analyst that is a big argument that they don't say outloud
Let’s go Jokic. Congrats. I don’t care about snub or who didn’t win. I’m happy for the winner. Celebrate the best player in the league
He's not the best player goofy
Wolves in 4, get ready for that 🧹🧹🧹🧹
@@HollaIfYaHemi392 He’s been the best bum
@@olivercool23083 MVPs and a ring👍🏽
@@JaMal-oo1txno offense but they most likely get getting swept
Why are they making the argument that the Thunder won a lot more than last year as a reason for Shai to be MVP? Lmfao is this the most improved team award? He was on the squad last year too lol. Jokic dominates him in everything other than points and steals. PER, TS%, FG%, 3P%, Reb, Ast, OBPM, DBPM, BPM, OWS, DWS, WS/48, VORP, ORtg, DRtg. And they had the same record. This crowd arguing for Shai would at least have a much better argument for Tatum since they won so much.
you just dont understand it because you are stupid. thats why players knows whats real valuable ans stupid fans like you cant think deep and is too literal when analyzing opinions.
and as usual casuals just rely on stats alone thats why idiots like you just dont get it. for sure you dont play sports in a deeper level
Exactly!
was SGA snubbed? WHY isn’t LUKA in the headline FIRST?? regardless of the votes?? yeah sure regular season award, Luka is gone and Mavs are beyond out of the playoffs
Luka 34-9-9 and his team always injured and got 50 wins .Luka could average 60-10-10 and he won't win it. The glaze on Jokic is unreal
Play defense buddy
Luka his defense is not acceptable to win MVP
@@flexermc4333It's the weak defense
Yes Shai was snubbed and it’s not even close, as mentioned he doesn’t have an all star teammate and don’t forget, the OKC thunder last season were the 10th seed, this season they jumped to number 1, I can’t remember the last time that happened, along with his winning he’s averaging 30+ so in imo, he’s the MVP
Everyone talks about Jokic and Shae's seasons, but what about Luka? 34/9/10 for the season?
💯
Luka is not as popular, unfortunately plain and simple.
Luka is stat-padder without Kyrie he wouldnt make playoffs, just like last year
@@jesha789 Yeah it's shocking how one single star player can't really win alone right? Just like Micheal Jordan who was also a stat-padder I guess
@@venetoawarddon‘t bother explaining basketball
Skip talking about the Shai/Chet commercial was pure comedy 😂 Paul was definitely holding in laughter afterwards
He was speaking for everyone
Jokic won it!! 3rd time wow!!
Get over it
He stole embiid mvp 😤
@@sbkamara2003 You mean the BLM MVP that Embiid stole last season and will always be remembered like that? Or this season where Embiid body fallen a part and missed 45 games?
Embiid doesn't play in Denver so a game in Philly is irrelevant. Also Chet is back and that made a big difference to OKC.
Keep Chet and take SGA away, they don't make the play in. Stop it
@@ausar09Last year when they had Shai and didn’t have Chet they finished 10th the west
@@user-lt1fx2he5sread what he said brother
Jalen Brunson at least deserved a vote. He was disrespected hard.
Paul Pierce takes are so enlightening it makes sense
He's a surprisingly perfect fit on the show come NBA playoffs insights time. Paul Pierce was a champ with Garnett and Allen and obliterated Kobe in the Finals by like 40 and points in the last game. He knows what he's talking about
He has good takes ngl
Joker was MVP, i honestly don’t think it was close.
Its the main media fault. Weve been saying this all year and definitely in the playoffs.
Denver is 1-3 vs thunder
Sga hit a gamer winner in denver and another game scored 40
#1 in steal
#2 in point per game
Its definitely the main media fault.
Okc #1 in the west #2 best team in all of the nba
Like gtfoh.
2nd yougest team in the nba and are 5-0 in the playoffs and nuggets are 0-2 in the second round
In the playoffs sga is 28/9/9
Shaq a real one for this as well
Okc is #2 in defense #3 in scoring.
Make it make sense
He stole embiid mvp 😤
@@HollaIfYaHemi392 Regular season award, nothing to do with Playoffs. SGA is tied with Fox for Steals. He leads in FT made.
Jokic: 1st in PER, 1st in Win Shares (17.0, its 3.4 higher than SGA) and Offensive WS, 2nd in Defensive WS (Shai is 8th, as mentioned in the vid), 1st in Box +/- both Off and Def, 1st in VORP (Value Over Replacement Player). Team record exactly same as OKC. 26/12/9 average.
SGA has the narrative. Both Luka and Jokic had better counting stats. Jokic has the best advanced stats. Shaq isn't a real hes biased, he kept mentioning SGA stats and 50 30 pt games but guess what, Shai had 51 30+ pt games, Luka had 50 30+ pt games... And team record its literally the same as Denver...
@@OBODZ1 you just showed that nuggets are 1-3 this season vs the thunder. Out played and out scored this season. Nothing tied about there record
Lol it's cool since it is a season award. Still okc is 5-1 in the playoffs and nuggets are 0-2 vs the very same wolves. OKC,WOLVES,NUGGETS are all in the same NORTHWEST DIVISION
okc is 2-2 with the wolves this year season.
They are the real threat to okc we know this.
Still OKC is the 2nd youngest team in the NBA doing these things:
#2 team in the NBA
#1 in the West beats Denver for the #1 seed this season:OKC IS 3-1 this season vs Denver
Sga being young leading a young team
#1 in Steals this year
#3 in Point Per (freaking) game 🤣🤣 just to name a few things
Okc defense is tied for the #2 spot in the NBA & #3 in offense in the Nba.
Once again while doing this being the Second youngest team just to name & say a few things.
Anyway Goodluck
Thunder up
"SHAQ THE REAL MVP" 🤣🤣🤣
@@HollaIfYaHemi392 So your argument is still playoffs, being young, and 30+ ppg, when theres another younger guy who averaged 34/9/10 lol. Both teams are literally 57-25. People be acting like OKC is far and away the 1st seed.
Stats don't lie and you know damn well people will keep voting for Jokic putting up crazy numbers in both advanced and regular stats. He will continue to be in the MVP conversation as long as hes healthy the next few seasons.
SGA was just the 2nd most valuable as advanced stats show and it wasn't really close for 1st, simple as that. Anyways good luck, I'm not a fan of any of these teams regardless.
It’s funny how when they(Thunder) had Shai and Jaylen Williams last year they were in the 10th seed but once Chet came back from injury they finished with the no.1 seed in the West.
and only fools lije you think so simple. everything seems to be as simple as 1+1=2. typical trait of a dumb person
Overall Jokic is a better player, he has a bigger bag of skills, that's why he's won. The sitting wasn't decided until the last game it was a one game diference between the top 3 sits. I think the voters already had Joker in mind before the last few games.
More skilled than SGA, you capping
Pierce nailed it. They should definitely hand out the trophies right away. So many times this bulljive when someone's team is struggling in the playoffs. It's a regular season award, awarded to the guy who did well during the regular season. Hand it out when you've done with for which the trophy is awarded and when the guy is riding that high.
SGA went into MSG and hit a game winner on Brunson head, went into Denver and hit a game winner on Jokics head, was 3-1 against Dallas. What are we doing here?
Um yes hello
I like Shai but C'Mon Man! The dude averages 30 pts/game with 9 free throw attempts per game. He averages almost 4 more attempts than Jokic does.
Jordan literally avg more ft when he has his best season.. Harden too
People don't know that it's a regular season award 😂
You mean popularity award
@@jimmykarlsson2567 exactly.
SGA has been killing it all year
@jimmykarlsson2567 what a moronic statement jokic not more popular then so many players he just plays better then all of them n yall mad😂😂😂😂 lames no IQ but sure you know😂😂😂
Playoffs ain't over tho ain't they both still in it sooo
Congratulations Joker for your 4th straight MVP trophy!
Agreed 💯
" people Will be mad they gave Jokic the MVP because the Nuggets got swept". This take did not age well.
FUNNY HOW 7 GAMES ERASE LUKA BEING 1ST IN SCORING & 2ND IN ASSIST 73 5 30PT TRIPLE DOUBLES IN A ROW....AND KY MISSED 58 GAMES
Luka is the NBA Josh Allen! No respect from media!
OKC and Nuggets had the same record 57-25
but no, Shai should win MVP because he managed to get the best record in the toughest conference
so Shai should've won it because of a tie breaker? holly sh*
Luka had the best individual season in the NBA. Jokic close second, should've gotten it last year. The rest is spin.
That MVP fatigue argue is one and done Keyshawn. They used that last year in order to award Embiid MVP. Giannis will win the award next year or SGA.
Giannis is done winning mvps
He’s not lying … Giannis never winning again … neither is Lebron
@@justicestyles Bron was done since 14😂😂 Giannis never winning again sadly
@@justicestyles yeah the last time bron was close was the bubble season.. after that it was game
@@maverick33guy95 He would have won MVP in 2020 if COVID didn't happen. Lakers beat the Bucks and Clippers in back to back games right before the season shut down and Bron thoroughly outplayed Giannis and Kawhi in those games and the Lakers were far and away the #1 seed at that time. AD would have won DPOY as well, instead Giannis won both and got bounced in the 2nd round by a 5 seed 🤣 🤣 🤣
That "Jamal Murray is in the laker hall of fame" is hilarious. True though 😂
Paul pierce came in spitting. Don’t understand why they don’t just give it right after the season ends
Big facts
It was Embiid's MVP this year but the rule is the rule. He couldn't play 65 games due to injury.
Jokic was the guy right behind him. He deserves this MVP trophy.
yeah, and Embiid kind of owes 1 MVP to Joker anyways, from last year.
@@chief8268He stole embiid mvp 😤 now
@@sbkamara2003 embiid got hurt otherwise he would have won
SGA was snubbed the MVP should go to a player that can play OFFENSE AND DEFENSE. Shai averaged 30ppg, shot 54% and played lockdown all year. JOKER scores and he is great passer but a liability on defense because he's a bad rim protector. Ask the Twolves.😂💯
Jokic 3rd MVP, should be his 4th. Congratulations!!!
Shaq said Shai stuffs the stats but Jokic doesn’t. Jokic is top 10 in scoring top 4 in rebounds and top 3 in assists.
Shai 3rd in scoring 58th in rebounds 19th in assists
Now tell me who stuffs the stats Shaq 🤣🤦🏽♂️
In that case the SCORING LEADER was snubbed which is Luka. In no category did SGA prevail
embiid then ducked joker in colorado that year.
That year? He only played in Denver twice in his entire career. Those Embiid "missing person" posters were not a joke. 😆
Embiid always smoke jokic head to head it doesn't matter about location he do it anyway
I remember Googling Thunder games this season. and SGA had so many 30 point games. I was like: “I have to wait until the playoffs to see this team play on TV???😤😤😤
Did this guy just call Shai "cute"? There's so much to unpack there...
So did Luka not carry his team to top seed contention while key players were injured. And nearly average a triple double, oh and dropped 73
snubbed man
The one who got really snubbed averaged 34-9-10 for the season.
1st in points
2nd in assists
15th in rebounds as a guard!
T7th in steals.
50+ wins.
Joker got 108 triple doubles in 604 games it took bron 1428 games to get 108 double triple…
MVP absolutelly deserved. Key is right, in upcoming years there will be fatigue with Jokic but there is 1 thing about Joker that only basketball experts talk. It is his advance statistics, his PER is of the charts because of his overall impact over game (points, rebounds, assists) and that is the reason why pools always put him among favorits + he is in champion team. Once you are marked as favorit you remain in the race till very end with good chance in wining.
All key was doing was saying his future excuses but posing it as the opinions of future voters
How did okc become the most HATED team in the nba
They too young to belong at the top. Beating NO without Zion; no points given. OKC has to win it all to get any credit
Ignored* not hated
It all goes back to Starbucks CEO Schultz selling the Seattle Supersonics (hope they can come back) to Oklahoma businessman Clay Bennett back in 2006 after failing to either renovate the old KeyArena or getting a brand new arena. Bennett, thus moved the Sonics in 2009, thus the hate for the Thunder plus OKC is a smaller media market so there's really no love throughout the league. Only Boston, NY, Philly, Miami, Chicago, LA, and GS gets the love because those are the largest media markets in the NBA as opposed to OKC, NO, Memphis, and Utah, smaller NBA markets.
@wanderer34 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 they will never come back especially after what yall did to the team. Why would they leave when they are building a new 1.9 billion arena. Just signed another 40 years extension. Keep dreaming
They don't understand Joker is jus gettin started 😂
Paul Pierce is so spot on! He has some what revived the show!
If you watch basketball at all then you know that Aaron Gordon and Jamal Murray are all stars but have consistently gotten snubbed. It's so f'n ridiculous but this is what allows Joker to keep winning. Also their regular season style of play is way different once post season starts. Can't have the ball in Jokes hands all damn day and expect to win it all. Gordon should demand a trade expeditiously
So is Porter Jr
Jokic is King
Jamal and Aaron Gordon aren’t consistent enough like Jokic is
And go where? He has a chance to win multiple championships
@denverbasshead NYC. Randle is done out there. The Nugget Era will soon end don't wait until it's too late to get your shine
MVP should always go to the best player on the best team in the tougher conference to avoid confusion…Unless there are a unbelievable player doing something we’ve never seen and the narrative sways, and even then that’s a maybe. They have to go head to head with stats and battle it out…
No because it’s an individual award not a team award so there has to be individual standards
@@isaiahh4108 No it's not Go back and look at Nash's MVP stats goof ball...
@@isaiahh4108are you confused or what 😂😂😂.
MVP means most valuable player for your team.
So that means you must elevate your teams and teammates and thereafter have a successful season with your team.
Otherwise they can just give the award to the player with the best stats every season
I would agree with this if there was an actual noticeable lead. The Thunder and the nuggets have the same exact record. So basically all of the SGA voters are basically giving him the edge because Denver lost to San Antonio at the end of the year. Jokic has the clear advantage in stats. If the thunder won 60+ game to where they were the clear best team in the west, I would agree but OKC, Minnesota and Denver were all equally as good all year long.
@@jimmykarlsson2567 being on a good team doesn’t automatically mean your the MVP if the team is stacked then your value is clearly less see KD and Steph in GSW or even better why Tatum doesn’t get mentioned today
Key the last person to speak on somebody outfit...he need a stylist 😭
Jokic didnt play defence last year
10 th place in the whole league in total steals
2nd in league in deflection
Top5 defencive rebound
Your sooo silly
Yes he was snubbed for the MVP 0:19
He stole embiid mvp 😤
okc beat denver 3 times in 4 games during regular season.
They moved the goal pole again, Media promoted Joker and Luca all year and they they got caught with Okc being one in west and 3-1 vs den.
Yeah and Jokic didn’t play in one of those losses
And???
@@chrispeters394that sounds like a personal problem. Cause when embid didn’t play against joker last year they made sure to make a big deal out of it.
@@chrispeters394jokic did play in a December 29th matchup in Denver where shai put 40 on jokic head while jokic had 19 and thunder blew Denver out but let’s not mention that
He quotes Shai in the 1st round of Playoffs and Joker in the 2nd. Gotcha. We all know what this is about. I think Cowherd said it best "The Face of the NBA Needs to Be Flashy and Talk Smack" Growing up playing sports, my parents would have punished me for "Talking Smack" as bad sportsmanship. That's the real difference in culture.
Chet played 82 games. He played 22 games more than Jamal. Williams played 72. Dort 79. The Nuggets tied the regular season record with the Thunder. The Thunder won the tie breaker. This is silly.
SHAY WAS BY HIMSELF MOST OF THIS SEASON AND STILL GOT THEM TO NUMBER ONE AS THE BEST OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE PLAYER ON HIS TEAM. NO WAY HE SHOULDNT GET IT.
Chet play all 82 games how was he alone?
He was not by himself.. stop it
You a casual if you think he was by himself lmao. JDub and Chet are terrific. Dort is the best defensive guard in the league.
Great young squad
Yes SGA is snubbed
Jokic. 14-9-24. Just one assist shy away for another triple double in a playoff series. That's the number he's giving you night in night out during the season. That's why he's the MVP. SGA has additional Chet on lineup. Additional interior defense and rebound and score. That's the difference from last year to this year. That's why OKC's record improved.
Damn somebody farted..
Just listen 12:29 😂😂😂😂
They robbed my boy Luka
Sga should have been 3rd. Jokic > Luka > Shai.
Facts
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@@cheatingscoobydooshut up already will you 🤡
Luka???
What has Luka done 😂😂😂.
Y'all really love these slow unathaletic European boys, don't ya 😂
Its the main media fault. Weve been saying this all year and definitely in the playoffs.
Denver is 1-3 vs thunder
Sga hit a gamer winner in denver and another game scored 40
#1 in steal
#2 in point per game
Its definitely the main media fault.
Okc #1 in the west #2 best team in all of the nba
Like gtfoh.
2nd yougest team in the nba and are 5-0 in the playoffs and nuggets are 0-2 in the second round
In the playoffs sga is 28/9/9
Shaq a real one for this as well
Okc is #2 in defense #3 in scoring.
Make it make sense
I have never understood why the NBA does not give out these awards in award show fashion in between the end of the regular season and the start of the playoffs. You could essentially do it like the ESPYS.
Sga, Jokic, and Doncic all easily had arguments to win it but I was hoping Sga took it home. He had 51 30 pt games this season. An absolutely absurd number with his efficiency and considering harden and Kobe were the last to have as many, and only 11 players total all time.
jokic deserved it. plus if we are talking robbery and snubs, the nba owed jokic for giving the mvp to joel embiid last year.
And ppl don’t get it they robbed him of legacy they paid him back SGA and LUKA gotta get in line that’s how it always works
They literally explained right now on this show why Shai should have been the mvp.
Didn't you listen or maybe Didn't understood???
Jokic plays 0 defense, they had the easiest playoff run last year, hence them on the verge of a (gentleman’s) sweep
@Ro6ns again playoffs has nothing to do wit this award..why don't you bafoons get that?
@@showstoppa01 why you defending Jokic soo much ???
SGA got Robbed!!
Paul pierce commentary makes this show 100% better love Keyshawn too just because he not a yes man for skip 😂
People who sports invest know who okc is. They are one of the best money making teams in the association. Team been low key hot for 2 years
SGA should've won, he was the only star on his team and lead them to first place in the loaded West, lifting the team from last year to first place this year, he doesn't have a Jamal Murray or Michael Porter Jr.
Shai didn't win it. Jokic won MVP this year.
@@TommyMartini657_jciridje I agree that Jokic deserved MVP, but the man is saying "SGA should have won." Point out that Jokic actually won is a non sequitur.
Check out the VORP stats. Holmgren is ahead of Murray and White is ahead of MPJ
SGA isn’t good. He is a 16-19 PPG player any other decade when the rules were different. He isn’t quick, isn’t athletic, can’t dribble, and can’t shoot. STOP saying SGA is good for the love of GOD.
Jokic the Goat 🐐 🙌.
0:06 I be saying this to I don’t know why they wait so long
Skip needs to get his facts straight. Joker was first in offensive win share with 12.0 and second in defensive win share with 5.1. He was first in combined win share with 17.0 The second place player for combined win share was Shai with 14.6. Based on advanced stats, Joker was far and away the best player.
Don’t forget Shai had a lower ranking team. Jokic had his championship team at the 4th seed. Shai brought his team to number 1 and averaged what he did is deserving of mvp.
He was definitely snubbed. The best team with the best player.
Nugs had the same record
Boston, Tatum
@@ObelixCMM exactly these ppl don’t understand context
@@isaiahh4108 bro the east teams are nowhere near as competitive as the west.
@@GaGotti doesn’t matter you said best player on best team that’s your argument clearly you don’t even believe it
Should've went to Shai or Luka imo
Nah
Advanced stats shows joker is mvp i think.
Don't forget Jokic has played with a total of 0 All Stars in his career. If there was a draft tomorrow of every NBA Player, Jokic goes 1st overall for every GM in the league.
Joker is the best player in the world right now period. Lukas second
Jokic got 3 mvps is 4 years. That puts him in the same category as Wilt chamberlain, Bill Russell, Bird, Magic, Lebron. Ain’t No way Jose. That’s just wrong he not on that level at all.
I like to see flim how good wilt n bill was who they play against by the way rules was alot different in there era how many teams did they play against no disrespect was they shooting threes n running the offense by any chance jokic one of a kind MIT not be your cup of tea but he get the job done with less effort if he really turn it on he easily avg 40 pts a game just like get his teammates involved
SGA got robbed smh
I feel like Paul Pierce can carry the show, make him permanent. Keyshawn has been grinding it out and deserves a spot too.
If "the media" would have covered the good teams in the league instead of following mediocre teams all season long maybe more people would be in tune with Shai but since y'all did LeBron Lakers Curry Warriors KD Suns every day the media not even familiar with the actual great teams left playing right now 🤷🏾♂️
Paul Pierce must be drinking again 😂 lol
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I really don't get Paul Pierce's point...so a player is snubbed just because he is in a low market franchise and most of his games aren't national televised? SGA overplayed nearly all superstars in the big games matchups. He owned even Denver.
That isnt some secret. It happens in college football and major league baseball all the time. If people arent watching the games great players get snubbed of awards. It happens.
FOX needs to give Paul “The Truth” Pierce the 💰! They might be waiting to see how/if he performs during football season. 👀
Just the big turn around that shai helped lead with okc was pretty crazy and if you take into account how young they all are, even more crazy
SGA is the best player on the best team in the tougher division
Wolves are the best team
OKC isn’t the best team. They tied for best record, but Minny has the better team.
MVP is for regular season. Not for the playoffs stop with the controversial nonsense just to get clicks on your TH-cam post. TV show has turned into the Lakers after game Thoughts show.😮
I have to agree. This is a regular season award and i agree with Pierce, let people know who won the award at the end of the regular season.
Its the main media fault. Weve been saying this all year and definitely in the playoffs.
Denver is 1-3 vs thunder
Sga hit a gamer winner in denver and another game scored 40
#1 in steal
#2 in point per game
Its definitely the main media fault.
Okc #1 in the west #2 best team in all of the nba
Like gtfoh.
2nd yougest team in the nba and are 5-0 in the playoffs and nuggets are 0-2 in the second round
In the playoffs sga is 28/9/9
Shaq a real one for this as well
Okc is #2 in defense #3 in scoring.
Make it make sense
@@HollaIfYaHemi392 I think they want to see if he’s going to put together a couple of good seasons. I don’t remember anybody getting MVP for having a good season ever unless you’re on the Lakers team. One of those games in Denver he only had five points in the 4th I do remember that, but overall joker had a better season stats Don’t lie triple doubles are off the chain along with assists and steadiness of big game play. MVP is decided on regular season Play only my friend.
@fadetoblack.- no he didn't. Sga hit all career high in every category but points. With you talking about. Sga scored 5 points in the 4th game of the season against Denver and the other 3 games he averaged 30ppg against Denver. Denver is 1-3 gtfoh
Its the main media fault. Weve been saying this all year and definitely in the playoffs.
Denver is 1-3 vs thunder
Sga hit a gamer winner in denver and another game scored 40
#1 in steal
#2 in point per game
Its definitely the main media fault.
Okc #1 in the west #2 best team in all of the nba
Like gtfoh.
2nd yougest team in the nba and are 5-0 in the playoffs and nuggets are 0-2 in the second round
In the playoffs sga is 28/9/9
Shaq a real one for this as well
Okc is #2 in defense #3 in scoring.
Make it make sense
3:27 this was golden prediction 😅
"If he had more nationally televised games, he would have won..." What THE HECK does THAT have to do with a player's performance/accomplishments on the court?! The MVP award is a joke of a popularity contest.
Yes he was snubbed, he proved that when he hit the game winner against them and finished as #1 seed. Also undefeated in the playoffs so far. Enough said💯