This weekend I'm streaming a new podcast episode with Kiwo along with watching E3 conferences on my Twitch. I give notices for all of these on my Twitch Twitter and Discord, links for which are in the description :) if you want to watch the unedited version of my Bioshock playthrough, you can do so on my Twitch & Stream Archive channels th-cam.com/users/rtgamestreamarchive
If you live in one of his Cities Skylines worlds, or just any game that gives RT a choice of how he affects the world, you should DEFINETLY fear the Drift King.
I remember someone pointing out in a sit-down chat of this game, the opening lines of the Luteces in the boat- in which Robert points out that Booker “doesn’t row” as in, “Booker _never_ rows the boat”, as in, _”There does not exist a timeline, across all of the Bookers, in all of the multiverse, in which he rows the boat.”_ I just think that’s a neat ‘lil detail.
Booker doesn't row, but Fiona and me do it in his boat every Sunday. She tells him she's in church, but she doesn't go, still she's on her knees, and Booker doesn't row, oh, Booker doesn't rowwww, so don't tell Booker. Cause Booker doesn't Rowowww.
Ending spoilers: Imagine you are just a preacher, and a veteran comes to you asking to be baptised, then suddenly he says no, and 10 identical women come forth from rifts in the multiverse, drown him, and disintegrate.
@@thechosenfundead6626 From the preacher's perspective, a man who knew he was sinful refused to be baptized, and then 10 women appeared and drowned him... Sounds like rejecting Jesus is a BAD idea...
RT: "Elizabeth, you are living dangerously right now..." Elizabeth: "Sorry!" RT: "No, it's alright, I'm just worried for your well-being, that's all!" GOD THAT TIMING WAS SO GOOD
@@aperturescienceguy2737 most fail, there are several hints scattered throughout the game, and sometimes it just flat out tells you, booker dies....A LOT. they have been at this a very long time, trying and failing to stop comstock, this is the run where they do it. while due to some fuckery, its was also the first run ;p
The funny thing about Columbia is, that it was literally inspired by Rapture. The Siblings saw it using their technology and essentially "borrowed" the things they saw and sold them in their reality as new inventions. There is one audio log where this is said and it explains the similarities between the two cities
Finkton and Suchong were in contact with each other too, Finkton basically stealing design concepts for plasmids to create vigors though at a greater cost due to sourcing the sea slugs from the ocean floor. Songbird also uses the same technology and bonding mechanisms the Big Daddy's use though they needed someone genetically related to Elizabeth for it to work, somewhere inside songbird is another Booker protecting his daughter
@@brandonwelsh5090 I don't recall it ever being implied there was a Booker in Songbird, especially since Elizabeth remembers Songbird before he became a giant, or at least there's charts/diagrams of a young Songbird ingame.
@@brandonwelsh5090 If I'm remembering right, and it's also been a while, the scientist from Rapture thinks there needs to be a DNA link manufactured, but Fink think it only needs a psychological bond. There was something about that bond coming accidentally after Elizabeth fixed a young Songbird's breather. I think the Booker is Songbird thing was just a theory.
@@Tahanok2 Na dude, Songbird is another Booker, or did you forget who you played as during Bioshock 2? No Booker in sight, no man, an entirely different Rapture, different Big Daddy's, and even at the end, you save your "daughter". So yea, the theory that Songbird is another Booker holds up firmly.
I love this playthrough dearly, but I will never be able to un-realise that Booker and Elizabeth never actually go back to the timeline they were getting the vox weapons for in the first place, and they kind of just go on increasingly sad multiverse adventures after that point
Yeah they also never finish the racism thing or any other plot they started. This is the messiest video game story of all time that contradicts itself contantly, never finishes a single plot threat and explains it all with "oh theres always a lighthouse lol because we said so" Absolute masterclass in how to write a bad story its almost genius if it wasnt so offensively terrible
@cbalsky6204 the first 3 hours of the game 😂 literally the first action you can do in the game is to choose to join in pelting the black guys with fruit or pelt the racist ringleader with fruit. The game then continues with this theme pretty consistently until it just kinda forgets about it and replaces it with one of the worst parallel universe plots of all time (until more recent Marvel endeavours) Just frustrating that they had a great theme with a great story to go with it and this theme and story matched with the spirit of the previous games but Ken Lavine is just so far up his own asshole he wanted to show how smart he is with a clever plot line Issue is he isnt nearly as smart as he thinks he is
@ the game’s main theme isn’t racism, nor do I believe it is meant to be. Racism, religious fanaticism, white supremacy and class segregation, are all meant to comment on American exceptionalism (that America is greater/better than any other country or nation). This is what ALL of Columbia represents as well as why it is built in the sky. It is above everything else. This also links to bookers vision of New York being attacked in Columbia; That any other nation that Comstock (or Elizabeth once she turns into the version Comstock wants her to be) deems worse or below his needs to “drown in flames the mountain of man” so that they can be rebuilt under his personal view of AE. As for the infinite universes plot, I don’t think it replaces anything, rather it was meant to be like this from the start. There are many hints right from the beginning of the game that are that have much more meaning on a second play through. For example, one of the opening lines of the game is that booker “doesn’t row,” implying that across infinite universes, one of the constants (ie constants and variables) is that he never rows the boat. It’s also clear this was thought about pretty in depth with Elizabeth being Anna, booker marking AD on his hand, and of course by the end that booker is also Comstock in other universes. There also lies much foreshadowing of the end (booker nearly drowning from baptism at the beginning of the game) I also don’t know if you have played burial at sea but infinite also connects a lot with rapture that is seen in bioshock 1. All of which tells me that this was incredibly well thought out from the beginning. I’m sorry that for whatever reason you didn’t like the game. As you can probably tell it is one of my favorites. I could write entire essays on this thing. Btw I totally don’t expect you to read all of this. Feel free to disagree if you wish. I wont fight you, everyone has their opinions. I will agree with you on one thing: The recent marvel movies with multiverses have not been great 😂
So for reference, the Lutess twins aren't actually twins, they're the same person from different timelines. Comstock tried to have them killed in an "accident" this was achieved by sabotaging one of their machines, the result was they were basically torn apart and scattered through the realities, they exist in multiple states simultaneously.
@@alternateview8971 They don't seem to have a problem with it but they may not exactly be sane since they are functioning on multiple realities simultaneously, they may have knowledge of future events or perhaps they are making assumptions based on the flow of each timeline, though they do seem to possess the ability to appear anywhere they desire to be.
That means, since they are different genders, that their very chromosomes were ripped apart. Due to this they are literally dimension hopping chromosome crusaders
As they say, you have no control who lives, who dies, who tells your story. I guess Alex’s storytellers just happened to be a guy who read a book once and a hotdog cart franchise.
"It wasn't the torture that got me, it wasn't the indoctrination. It was time. Time rots all, even hope." It's cheesy but that line is so fucking good, hell the whole asylum section of the game is incredible.
I disagree, the idea of hope is that it can evade time. There are so many good books about this, I would evidence the tattooist of Autswitch. I think its a very poor point in all honesty
@@robertmacpherson1981 I mean, there's an equal amount of books about how time can turn hope to despair. You have to understand that not everyone sees it the same way.
I just realized that every time they offer booker a choice between two items, like the two charms or the two upgrades, they're keeping track. They don't ask anyone except booker. Everytime you decide one or the other they mark it down.
What’s great about this universe is that it seems to be based on binary choices, but there always remains the hidden third option: no. The whole reason he went to get baptized was because he was gripped by the guilt he felt due to the death he caused at the Battle of Wounded Knee. His actions there created two instances, Comstock: a man who accepted rebirth and made it his mission to destroy the society that caused him to face the horrors he saw at Wounded Knee, and DeWitt: a man who refused to be reborn but couldn’t handle the guilt so he fell into a life of debauchery, leading to crippling debt that caused him to abandon his daughter. These two are diametrically opposed and the universe tries it’s damnedest to make them destroy each other. However, if you remove one of the key points that takes him to the divergence point i.e never fighting at Wounded Knee or coming to peace in his own way, Booker never gets railroaded into these destinies. Multiverse theory says that he always has the option to change, even when he thinks he only has the two options. This game plays fast and loose with its own rules, but still a rather interesting exploration of the ramifications of multiverse theory and how it interacts with free will vs predeterminism.
@@samreid6010 Because of the path(s) the game moves from and to, I tend to forget what you just said. The game needs some closure as to not become too broad and challenging to rationalize for most of the players, so it basically makes you believe there are only 2 viable choices -> baptism or not. But of course, as you said, there are a lot of other different possible outcomes to those decisions. I allways cry at this game's ending because I have 2 little ones and can't fathom the immense tragedy both Anna and Booker had lived through. In the other hand any sensible person would grow to hate Booker on a personal level (which in fact is very difficult, because is the main character and we have helped him bond and befriend Elizabeth throughout the game) but by even getting the idea of selling her own daughter, or being able to become a monster like Comstock on the circumstance of faith, let's say Booker is not exactly the greatest of people in my book. Nonetheless, as you said, there are other options and I allways forget this important fact. My mind soothes a bit under the thought that there are Bookers that didn't go on a power rampage and learned how to forget/chose to keep going, just seeing their little Annas growing, playing happily and having a life of their own by Bookers's side. Trully a masterfull game all in all. One of those stories you know you'll never forget.
@@justaguy11131 you aren't dying AS Booker at the very end, you are inserting an event into a past time. Specifically they are altering the timeline so that any booker who accepts the baptism (and thus becomes a Comstock) will drown in that baptism.
I was wondering why the guys at 22:25 were being so awkward and then I realised it was because they weren't actually a hot-dog stand owner and a customer, they were just undercover goons. Awesome detail.
Fun facts RT missed about the lore: Comstock was sterile due to the Lutece's tests. Songbird is canonically based off the Big Daddy and the creators of each worked together to iron out design flaws with each. The red tears are meant to be a hint as how the 1912 musician in this game is making music from much later, causing his success, he basically heard all his songs through tears and just copied them for himself, basically a time heist.
less a time heist more of, time plagiarism, like that one guy in back to the future who, plagiarized his own song no less, (all it did was make it come out sooner, and also make him a plagiarist)
The mother of my friend’s sister’s brother has a coworker who’s son’s cousin has a teacher who’s brother voiced the paper boy at the beginning of Bioshock Infinite.
Just a small detail, but when they were trying to describe Brooke at the very beguinning, I love how none of the descriptions actually fit the American he is. He was French or mixed race or Irish, but _not_ American. A nice little way to show just how fucked up Columbia is, outside of gruesome murder of course.
I mean those descriptions fit all Americans, and fits the theme of the game even better. That the city was so racist against all those non-American to the point of making all Americans be literally just the Brits.
The only true American is the Native Americans, the Americans today is just immegrants from Europe. It amazes me some of them have have the audacity to "discriminate" other immegrants (Japanese, African American, Chinese)...even the native Americans... At this point they shouldn't call themselves Americans, maybe United Statesmen is more accurate... Glad to see it isn't as bad as in the 1900s or 1980s...Yet as recent as 2016 the movements and hostile attitude towards Asian, African American, and Mexicans show there is still work to be done.
You gotta appreciate how RT game is one of those letsplayers that can replay a game for streaming and utilise their story knowledge to enhance the experience, going along with the plot as it happens, using clever foreshadowing, and explaining things at the end. Worth an encore.
1:43:00 It ties in not through the main story, but actually a dlc. In the one dlc, it’s found out that an Elizabeth gave the code phrase “Would you kindly” to Frank Fontaine, causing the first game to happen
Also all those audiologs from Fink, that make it very apparent that a not-insigificant chunk of "ideas" had by him were just concepts he stole from seeing Rapture through tears, he bootlegged Big Daddies to make Songbird, he bootlegged Plasmids to make Vigors, and then of course all there is all the music he straight up stole.
The song at the end is such a beautiful choice. It’s a modified version of a folk song all about a young woman saying goodbye to her dead mother as the hearse takes her away. In a game about death and rebirth, a song praying for the rebirth of a dead loved one is such a good choice.
Are you meaning the Carter Family version? 'Undertaker please drive slow, cause the body, you are hauling, oh I hate to see her go'. That version is from the 1930s. The original is from 1907. (Sorry, I read the wiki article)
@@Absentlime31Welcome if multiverse theory is a thing do you think that in one reality that the bioshock series actually happened cus if so then danm we can probably get a big daddy suit and display it in a museum
me at the start: hey what a cool game let’s see what happened me at the middle: oh shit this is badass let’s see what the end has in store me at the end: what the fuck was that i have no words for how destroyed this ending made me feel
The game could have been so much better if they had just stuck with Bioshock 2’s combat system and made the ending less full of itself. Unfortunately Ken Levine’s ego got in the way.
@@samwecerinvictus i mean I liked it. Alot. I put down the controller once it was over and just kinda stated at the screen thinking about what i experienced. Wonderful game 10/10
@@nashvontookus7451 Ken Levine was very egotistical on both games, but during the development of the first one his ego was tamed by the desire to make a profitable game (which entails making it fun to play) and the fact that he had a limited budget and had to concede parts to the team. I think Ken Levine just doesn’t know very much about anything related to economics or people. Andrew Ryan creates a supposedly free society in which he is in charge and controls it how he likes. Andrew Ryan is really just a fascist larping as a capitalist. It makes for a deep character, but doesn’t fit with the picture Levine was trying to push his agenda with. The first game was no doubt heavy handed, full of itself, and self contradictory, but the gameplay and other elements balanced it out in my opinion. His team went on without him to create the excellent Bioshock 2 and Minervas Den. Riding on the wave of his ego, he declared those installments non cannon and then was given full control over Infinite, which disregarded the good of Bioshock 2 out of spite and saw the introduction of a shoehorned, multidimensional, supposedly deep but really quite shallow, philosophical point so confused with itself that it managed to damage the first game’s lore and completely erase the Second game entirely from said lore.
The ending isn't that you have to kill DeWitt to kill Comstock but instead that you have to specifically kill the DeWitt that took the baptism. As DeWitt said you have to smother Comstock right after he is born. All the DeWitt's that chose to walk away still lived.
Each time Booker dies in-game, a new Booker from another time takes his place. The ending is representative of every Elizabeth drowning every version of Booker, though it could be drowning every version of Booker who took the baptism. The Booker who walks away could go on to become Andrew Ryan.
My sister loves the scenery, but is squeamish about blood and gore, so she's never been farther than the raffle. I once tried to look up any mods that reduced the blood content, but only found a bunch of reddit posts where the person asking was told to "man up" in increasingly less kind terms. Thanks internet.
The ending is reminding me of a quote from To The Moon: "I never told anyone...but I always thought they were lighthouses. Billions of lighthouses.. Stuck at the far end of the sky. Shining their light at each other, and at me".
Shoulda made it hovering N-rays, would've been era appropriate technobabble, since people didn't fully stop believing in N-rays until we'd figured out what A-rays, B-rays, & G-rays were. (Alpha, Beta, & Gamma Radiation in modern English).
When this game came out I was like fuck yea this whole lighthouse thing just means more Bioshock games.... and then they didn't bring out a single game in 8 years.... good times
Yea. Especially since I thought Bioshock 2 was an extremely gimmicky and less enjoyable direct copy of Bioshock 1, then Infinite absolutely blew me away. Tbh Im kinda cool with them making two masterpieces and one ok game and leaving it at that. If Cyberpunk has taught us anything, its that high expectations in this modern game world are going to bring heartache
The series was meant to end with Infinite, the game was meant to wrap up everything that happened from 1-infinite in an appropriate infinite loop, which it does with the addition of the DLC, the game devs were pushed for time and so Infinite ends in a very wishy-washy way that's open to interpretation (1 Elizabeth remains before the screen blacks out, this is relevant to the DLC but some thought it was hinting at another game) but they never intended to hint at a sequel, and the other funny thing is half the people don't even understand the story and how it all wraps up because they either didn't play the DLC or didn't properly grasp how it all linked together or they got bored of the DLC because it's a lot of world building, narrative and subtlety, any ADHD riddled kid would fall asleep because it's not shooty gun bang bang every 10 seconds and it takes a lot slower pace to fully flesh out the universe and link everything together in a neat package
1:00:16 is such a bizarrely organic moment, like for a split second there Elizabeth genuinely heard RT. I know it's random chance and not real but boy howdy, if you wanted to convince me otherwise, this would be a fair start.
44:04 I never realized the game mentioned The Siege of Peking, that’s actually really neat as it’s not a super known event in American history but fits right in with the time period
I never took into account just how smart and intelligent Daniel is until after the stream where he nerds out about Literature. I love that our goofy and loveable Stream Dad is also an intelligent and well read Stream Dad.
It’s weird to see just a polished solid game cause they’re not as common anymore, granted they still definitely exist but most are cheaply thrown together cash grabs. It’s sad cause we can much much better games now with the hardware and it’s more often wasted.
You are fighting a ghost in this game. A ghost. And it's time whimey blah blah that scratches on some political themes, but does not follow through with them and throws them away for steins gate forward to the past multi-verse crap.
@@sinisterwombat3128 still enjoyable in the end. As someone who's this was a first into more narrative heavy games, i glad i played it when it came out.
@@sebastianlodge7549 given how America is the name of the entire continent, they could have just called it... idk, since America is from Amerigo Vespucci, it could be Vespuccia
@@strogonoffcore Its the United States of America. United Statss of Vespuccia wouldn't make a lot of sense. And it doesn't really sound all that great either.
On my first few playthroughs of this game, I never realized that Booker seeing Lutece and telling him to "Bring us the girl and wipe away the debt" never actually happened for getting Elizabeth, but that Booker's brain just coped the memory into existence.
Comstock went through so much trouble trying to kill Booker, when he could have just paid him more and stayed safe. Booker really didn't give a damn about anything by the dept when he entered
@@AntarcticWitch Commstock had more money then Luteces had days left to live. Just pay, or tell him he was betrayed and set up. It's not like THEY ever intended to pay.
This story is a tragedy. None of the characters we grow to love ever have a happy ending. Through out this game and its DLC, all we see is this tragedy. The only character we see have a good ending is Jack, and the little sisters. It is such a sad game
(SPOILER WARNING) I'm pretty sure at the end, Booker drowns, (somehow) erasing Columbia. But after that, only one version of Comstock remains, and in Burial At Sea, Comstock dies and Elizabeth's actions in Part 2 cause the events of the first BioShock.
I wouldn't say Delta gets a bad ending. Eleanor gets her freedom, the little sisters are all cured and, because we spare the three people across the playthrough, Eleanor saves Lamb before she drowns in the Bathysphere. Delta dies but he's saved his "daughter" and that's all that matters.
they are more or less monsters you know. I think it might have been the inception of Prey's Typhoon. it's obvious when replaying Bioshock one and two, even Tenenbaum, supposedly the most likeable character, is responsible for so much suffering.. also Elizabeth in Burial at Sea, forgot how much she dislikes Booker.. in the end, she just wants to end it all.
I usually fear that the highlights would have gaps in the story that confuse me, but that's never the case I come in and out understanding it, thank you to the editors and RT for making all these long videos great ones!
When I first played infinite I went in completely unspoiled despite it having been out for a few years. Those opening moments were beautiful. The wit from the twins, the lighthouse, and that "hallelujah" forever stuck with me
@@StevieTDP This is gonna ruin the joke but the fact that the commenter mentioned a lighthouse implies there's water near the town and it makes the joke so much better
Glad to see RT struggled with Lady Comstock, I played this game probably... 6-8 years ago as a teenager, and that part kicked my ass, which made me feel dumb, but the rest of the game was very easy and that was a sudden difficulty spike.
I don't think I have ever seen a condensed play through of any story heavy game, but I have to admit, it's a wonderful format. Especially if you already know the game and just want to remember it. Excellent execution, my compliment to the editor
God damn, ive replayed the whole series like 4 times, yet even watching this still has the same effect as every single time i played them. These games always make me an emotional wreck during the endings. Every. Single. Time. The number of times this series has brought me to tears is insane, and it will only climb higher the next time i replay them. And the next. These are undoubtedly the single greatest stories ever told in video games.
It comforts me to know that Booker and Elizabeth are living a normal life in a different dimension because of Booker's sacrifice at the end. Wish they would show that ending but oh well, Bioshock Infinite is a Phenomenal Masterpiece!!!
I still love that scene... Elizabeth: "You killed them... You're a monster!" Oh yea, because they totally were not trying to kill me and kidnap you along the way? Oh sure, I'M the monster for using self defence.
@@spongy7426 Absolutly could. Simple: Booker was trying to keep himself alive while simutaniously keeping me out of a place i hated. That is an easy thing to do. This is not a critisism of Elizabeth's character mind you, just that, other characters could do the opposite of what she did and be totally believable.
Honestly, I'm just thankful to have RT here to narrate this game. He makes things so much easier to digest and understand. Infinite gave me a bloody headache the first time I played through it, especially the ending.
I prefer booshock 1-2 over infinite. infinite felt too tryhard to bring a mindfuck story and became sort of unbelievable imo. 1-2 is far more grounded and thus far more believeable that a world loke that could exist
@@simplig1272 That's kinda what's amazing about it tho, the ambition makes it so interesting and engaging. First time I played it through, I literally sat there researching and looking up stuff from the game for an hour or two. Whereas, after 1 and 2, I just had a reaction of "that was cool" and went on with my life. Also, it's a game where you drink potions to possess people, a little bit of suspension of disbelief is warranted.
@PsycheOsmosis what's it like being a father and also liking video games? I have never met a parent who actually likes video games and doesn't think they're mostly a waste of time.
@@samurae7370 That used to be the case, but it has become significantly less so in the last decade or so. My son is 4 years old, and we play Lego Harry Potter and other such forgiving games together, where he can play around without hindering me in completing the game. I also built a wrecking ball game for him in Game Maker Garage recently. Not sure what else to say. Feel free to ask if you have questions.
I love this game. I actually got the collector's edition when this came out. The songbird statue and the murder of crows keychain are both absolutely gorgeous pieces amongst the others that I'm very much happy to have. It's great to see you play this.
I know this game got, and still gets, a bad rap. And I can understand why. It's a very polarizing game, that went through a lot of changes in its design, from the mechanics to its entire philosophy. But the end product is still as impactful to me now as it was when I first played it; it will always be a deep, meaningful game to me with a lot to it.
“Are you afraid of God?” Why would I be, considering whose video I’m watching rn. If you fear God over Rumble Tumble Games you have made the wrong decision
Lots of people dislike the whole time warping in this game, but I for one kinda enjoy it. It's a fun concept, even if it's not thought out that well. Still my favorite bioshock game, despite all its flaws
I actually really like it since its like my dreams, theres always something off, something different, for the most part its the same, but the details changing are amazing. The fact that daisy lead the uprising against people hating blacks and irish treating them like subhumans, and when she rose to the top started executing white people Is also amazing, because that is exactly what happens and not a lot of art brings up that topic
I used to have a lot of qualms with how the game ended. If you’re like me and feel like there’s a lot of loose ends maybe try the dlc. It’s not perfect but it helps to close some gaps
I love it man it's what makes this game unique and genuinely intriguing. It really doesn't feel not well thought out to me there's subtle hints in dialogue throughout the game that point to some bigger picture going on. It's practically thrown in your face in the beginning of the game that comstock is booker as he has very intimate knowledge of dewitt for someone who lives in the sky and has never met him or heard of him before that we know of at that time. (You don't really pick up on it on your first playthrough either which makes it even better) And I feel any confusion is intentional or it comes off that way bc bookers mind is making up things to cope with being in the wrong dimension. I actually was unaware this game was disliked I love the world and it's a pretty realistic take on how people are in real life even if it's on a drastic scale this kind of thing has happened before in real life. (Obviously without fantasy video game stuff) This was also my first experience in the BioShock franchise 5 or so years ago and remains my favorite of the series as I'm replaying them all currently.
Bit late but a little heads up about the lady comstock boss fight, she can't resurrect people that have been burned to ash or are headless, so the shock vigor and the fire vigor are some of the best ones to use during the fight as the shock vigor causes a person's head to explode when they die while it is effecting them, and the fire vigor burned them to ash if it kills someone or when they die while it's effecting them.
i love games that go into time fuckery like this, expecially when they take it a step forward and go with the whole "everything is was and can be but also cant wont and didnt happen." Stuff just, stops mattering when you get to that point, and especially going by this universes rules and how the universe automatically "corrects" itself tot he point booker has false memories to justify why he is even there in the first place. the universe fixes itself and justifies the change so it doesnt just fucking collapse. so as people might see it as a plothole because time travel shenanigan's, in this universe the universe corrects itself to justify any change made, and the change that they made was, all the bookers that went to get baptized drowned, which deleted all versions of comstock, they nipped him in the bud. does get rather confusing after this tho.... but its pretty safe to assume that, after a certain point, Elizabeth exists outside of the universe and its normal rules (which is why she doesnt vanish like the other versions of her) the twins could very well exist outside of it, with their ability to exist anywhere at any time but again, its confusing. but hey, good news! with infinite possibilities that means in some timelines booker never went to get baptized and avoided the set in stone drowning, and judging by the ending, can also have their own daughter!
honestly it's fascinating how the universe's answer to "missplaced person in another timeline for too long" is to either make up memories to "fix" the discrepancy or straight up yeet the person from the rulebook/turn them into some sort of fixed point multiverse-hopper. The Luteces are a case of both situations (the "brother" crossing over from his universe to be with his "sister" and fabricating memories as a result, from what his dialogue implies. and then comstock trying to kill them, but ultimately failing since they're basically a walking schrodinger's cat by that point), while Elizabeth just got yeeted (although it took a long time to happen since she spent most of her life getting her "powers" siphoned away). booker meanwhile died a lot and even got back some memories of his other selves in some of the tears rip there's so much wiggle room to theorize about the timey whimey fuckery going on in this game and it's, frankly, a delight lmao
@@katsucandy " since they're basically a walking schrodinger's cat by that point" or alternatively a Schrödinger's cat with a very very very very very very very large box
I mean, by this universe’s rules it makes sense there has to be a normal, happy Booker. the whole reason he went to get baptized was because he was gripped by the guilt he felt due to the death he caused at the Battle of Wounded Knee. His actions there created two instances, Comstock: a man who accepted rebirth and made it his mission to destroy the society that caused him to face the horrors he saw at Wounded Knee, and DeWitt: a man who refused to be reborn but couldn’t handle the guilt so he fell into a life of debauchery, leading to crippling debt that caused him to abandon his daughter. These two are diametrically opposed and the universe tries it’s damnedest to make them destroy each other. However, if you remove one of the key points that takes him to the divergence point i.e never fighting at Wounded Knee or coming to peace in his own way, Booker never gets railroaded into these destinies. This game plays fast and loose with its own rules, but still a rather interesting exploration of the ramifications of multiverse theory.
This weekend I'm streaming a new podcast episode with Kiwo along with watching E3 conferences on my Twitch. I give notices for all of these on my Twitch Twitter and Discord, links for which are in the description :)
if you want to watch the unedited version of my Bioshock playthrough, you can do so on my Twitch & Stream Archive channels th-cam.com/users/rtgamestreamarchive
Sweet
As a speed runner of this game I’m exicited
Yay
Glad you’re doing a few more “
chill streams watching the E3 stuff! I feel like you did so much lately.
Day 4 of asking for more monster hunter world
"Booker. Are you afraid of God?"
"No. But I'm afraid of The Drift King."
Didn't know we were playing as Brian.
*Drift Daddy Dan
@@Raymal100 Drift harder Daddy
@@willow1011 ohhhhhh~~~
If you live in one of his Cities Skylines worlds, or just any game that gives RT a choice of how he affects the world, you should DEFINETLY fear the Drift King.
"Are you afraid of God?"
All the citizens in City Skylines in Daniel's playthroughs: *yes*
More like:
Daniel: Are you afraid of god?
Everyone: No, but we're afraid of you.
Daniel is God!
@@purpledevilr7463 I think more like the devil.
@@CeHee123 how bout Both?
They are also afraid of the song "Country Roads".
I remember someone pointing out in a sit-down chat of this game, the opening lines of the Luteces in the boat- in which Robert points out that Booker “doesn’t row” as in, “Booker _never_ rows the boat”, as in, _”There does not exist a timeline, across all of the Bookers, in all of the multiverse, in which he rows the boat.”_
I just think that’s a neat ‘lil detail.
he doesn't _row??_
@@skipskylark9525 Yes. He _DOESN'T_ row.
@@dusathemaid ah. i see what you mean.
Booker doesn't row, but Fiona and me do it in his boat every Sunday. She tells him she's in church, but she doesn't go, still she's on her knees, and Booker doesn't row, oh, Booker doesn't rowwww, so don't tell Booker. Cause Booker doesn't Rowowww.
It took until my second play through to realise who the boatmen (and woman) were
Ending spoilers:
Imagine you are just a preacher, and a veteran comes to you asking to be baptised, then suddenly he says no, and 10 identical women come forth from rifts in the multiverse, drown him, and disintegrate.
Id reevaluate my belief in jesus
"yeah, maybe I should be afraid of God"
@@cornonthekobi no, be afraid of Elizabeth!!
@@thechosenfundead6626 From the preacher's perspective, a man who knew he was sinful refused to be baptized, and then 10 women appeared and drowned him... Sounds like rejecting Jesus is a BAD idea...
"Now that is what you get for turning your back to our lord ans savior Jesus Christ."
Lady Comstalk: “Why did you come?”
Elizabeth: “I’ve got some Ammo”
I have come
With Ammo
Ammo
Meds
Salts
A sudden appearance of a building
RT: "Elizabeth, you are living dangerously right now..."
Elizabeth: "Sorry!"
RT: "No, it's alright, I'm just worried for your well-being, that's all!"
GOD THAT TIMING WAS SO GOOD
1:00:16 if anyone wants to see this moment
@@thepigeonmanlyon7155 Many Thanks!
I think the funniest thing about this game is: when the twins was asking you heads or tails...all those marks are apparently different bookers
Never thought of that, but that's pretty funny.
Wow there a a tooooonnnn of different bookers
@@aperturescienceguy2737 most fail, there are several hints scattered throughout the game, and sometimes it just flat out tells you, booker dies....A LOT.
they have been at this a very long time, trying and failing to stop comstock, this is the run where they do it.
while due to some fuckery, its was also the first run ;p
Fuckin speedrunners
just now i realized they are literally trying to find one that doesn't choose the same side of the coin
Father Comstock is basically just playing Cities: Skylines with Colombia like RT plays it with Country Roads.
EMBRACE THE BLIMP.
Why do americans write Columbia when they're supposed to write Colombia and write Colombia when they're supposed to write Columbia?
@@vargasmartin7143 prob because we pronounce them the same
Comstock is basically the Southern version of President Snow from Hunger Games.
They look exactly alike and have terrible rebellion management.
Me at the beginning: "oh this'll be a cool steampunk game."
Me an hour later: "what the actual hell just happened."
Same...
Same...
Have you played or seen any of the other BioShock games
@@sjpetrson3260 gotta be honest... no
@@Nekrubbobby ah. Well the first two games take place in this underwater city called rapture
Yeah the other two are 1920s New York underwater.
When Elizabeth was asking if you’re afraid of God, she was really saying “Are you afraid of RT?” and to be honest, I probably would be
He was the deranged mind that created the poop volcano
I'd be afraid of Kevin
Pure 100% fear
You're even here?
Well... Long time no see traveler.
Always fear the Irishman with a blueberry muffin and a title of "Drift Daddy"
The funny thing about Columbia is, that it was literally inspired by Rapture. The Siblings saw it using their technology and essentially "borrowed" the things they saw and sold them in their reality as new inventions. There is one audio log where this is said and it explains the similarities between the two cities
Finkton and Suchong were in contact with each other too, Finkton basically stealing design concepts for plasmids to create vigors though at a greater cost due to sourcing the sea slugs from the ocean floor. Songbird also uses the same technology and bonding mechanisms the Big Daddy's use though they needed someone genetically related to Elizabeth for it to work, somewhere inside songbird is another Booker protecting his daughter
@@brandonwelsh5090 I don't recall it ever being implied there was a Booker in Songbird, especially since Elizabeth remembers Songbird before he became a giant, or at least there's charts/diagrams of a young Songbird ingame.
@@Tahanok2 this info comes from Burial at Sea I think, it's been a long time since I've played Bioshock Infinite
@@brandonwelsh5090 If I'm remembering right, and it's also been a while, the scientist from Rapture thinks there needs to be a DNA link manufactured, but Fink think it only needs a psychological bond. There was something about that bond coming accidentally after Elizabeth fixed a young Songbird's breather.
I think the Booker is Songbird thing was just a theory.
@@Tahanok2 Na dude, Songbird is another Booker, or did you forget who you played as during Bioshock 2? No Booker in sight, no man, an entirely different Rapture, different Big Daddy's, and even at the end, you save your "daughter". So yea, the theory that Songbird is another Booker holds up firmly.
I love this playthrough dearly, but I will never be able to un-realise that Booker and Elizabeth never actually go back to the timeline they were getting the vox weapons for in the first place, and they kind of just go on increasingly sad multiverse adventures after that point
Basically they got sidetracked by side missions and kinda forgot what the main plot was lol
Yeah they also never finish the racism thing or any other plot they started.
This is the messiest video game story of all time that contradicts itself contantly, never finishes a single plot threat and explains it all with "oh theres always a lighthouse lol because we said so"
Absolute masterclass in how to write a bad story its almost genius if it wasnt so offensively terrible
@@boblioniawhat racism sub-plot are you talking about?
@cbalsky6204 the first 3 hours of the game 😂 literally the first action you can do in the game is to choose to join in pelting the black guys with fruit or pelt the racist ringleader with fruit.
The game then continues with this theme pretty consistently until it just kinda forgets about it and replaces it with one of the worst parallel universe plots of all time (until more recent Marvel endeavours)
Just frustrating that they had a great theme with a great story to go with it and this theme and story matched with the spirit of the previous games but Ken Lavine is just so far up his own asshole he wanted to show how smart he is with a clever plot line
Issue is he isnt nearly as smart as he thinks he is
@ the game’s main theme isn’t racism, nor do I believe it is meant to be. Racism, religious fanaticism, white supremacy and class segregation, are all meant to comment on American exceptionalism (that America is greater/better than any other country or nation). This is what ALL of Columbia represents as well as why it is built in the sky. It is above everything else. This also links to bookers vision of New York being attacked in Columbia; That any other nation that Comstock (or Elizabeth once she turns into the version Comstock wants her to be) deems worse or below his needs to “drown in flames the mountain of man” so that they can be rebuilt under his personal view of AE.
As for the infinite universes plot, I don’t think it replaces anything, rather it was meant to be like this from the start. There are many hints right from the beginning of the game that are that have much more meaning on a second play through. For example, one of the opening lines of the game is that booker “doesn’t row,” implying that across infinite universes, one of the constants (ie constants and variables) is that he never rows the boat. It’s also clear this was thought about pretty in depth with Elizabeth being Anna, booker marking AD on his hand, and of course by the end that booker is also Comstock in other universes. There also lies much foreshadowing of the end (booker nearly drowning from baptism at the beginning of the game) I also don’t know if you have played burial at sea but infinite also connects a lot with rapture that is seen in bioshock 1. All of which tells me that this was incredibly well thought out from the beginning.
I’m sorry that for whatever reason you didn’t like the game. As you can probably tell it is one of my favorites. I could write entire essays on this thing. Btw I totally don’t expect you to read all of this. Feel free to disagree if you wish. I wont fight you, everyone has their opinions. I will agree with you on one thing: The recent marvel movies with multiverses have not been great 😂
Ah yes, my favourite figure in american history: Alexander Hot Dog Man
alexander hot dog man
we are eating chicken wings with you
we know you'll never chow down,
you'll never learn to juice a liiiiime!
Also known in another reality as "Wiener William"
Theres a thousand dogs ive never bun(ned) but just you wait, just you waaaaaait
Dont forget John Washing Machine or Abram Loin Clothe
As an American, I can confirm all of these are correct
The tally marks of the flipped coins are each different Bookers, who all flipped heads.
I think it's also a reference to Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead, which is cool
I don't know what you're talking about, @@GingePlaysMinecraft
Its a great movie, worth a watch!
Yeah, its hella cool. Nice pfp btw
So for reference, the Lutess twins aren't actually twins, they're the same person from different timelines.
Comstock tried to have them killed in an "accident" this was achieved by sabotaging one of their machines, the result was they were basically torn apart and scattered through the realities, they exist in multiple states simultaneously.
I don’t know about you, but that sounds like absolute hell to me.
@@alternateview8971 They don't seem to have a problem with it but they may not exactly be sane since they are functioning on multiple realities simultaneously, they may have knowledge of future events or perhaps they are making assumptions based on the flow of each timeline, though they do seem to possess the ability to appear anywhere they desire to be.
That means, since they are different genders, that their very chromosomes were ripped apart. Due to this they are literally dimension hopping chromosome crusaders
It’s like quantum entanglement
@@Sunflowercowboy thats what I call my cousin with downs syndrome! Who's my little Dimension Hopping Chromosome Crusader!?
“Mr. RTgame! Bring us the toad, and wipe away the debt!”
Hello fellow gun gang member
@@Febo2310 yo
Why did they sunset trust
Well this is the first time I’ve seen one of us here.
Did not expect my fav legendary handcannon here
All of this happened because Alexander Hamilton was reduced to food branding.
They really did him dirty, huh?
As they say, you have no control who lives, who dies, who tells your story. I guess Alex’s storytellers just happened to be a guy who read a book once and a hotdog cart franchise.
In this alternate universe, Alexander Hamilton shot first.
My man didn’t even get his own musical!
@@danielledoeswhat this only happened because Eliza didn’t tell his story well enough in this timeline.
"It wasn't the torture that got me, it wasn't the indoctrination. It was time. Time rots all, even hope." It's cheesy but that line is so fucking good, hell the whole asylum section of the game is incredible.
I disagree, the idea of hope is that it can evade time. There are so many good books about this, I would evidence the tattooist of Autswitch. I think its a very poor point in all honesty
@@robertmacpherson1981
I mean, there's an equal amount of books about how time can turn hope to despair. You have to understand that not everyone sees it the same way.
@@robertmacpherson1981 I think their are a lot of agreeable books on topic but not enough ones that are disagreeable
@@HandlelesswithmeThat seems like a weird way to figure out if something is true or not right? How many books there on in a specific thing?
@@NA-AN their could be a millions that say one thing and a trillion more that says the opposite
This is not exactly objective fact in what things says
I love how an entire building and road crashed into the beach and everyones just "not gonna ruin my beach day."
...And a while later they proceed to act all surprised when they see the broken tower, but who cares about the bridge?
@@TheRobRok
*Sarcastic tone*
“Oh no, the bridge is going down.”
“Oh really? Oh golly gosh”
“Yeah, this’ll put a real downer on tuesday”
A TIMELESS masterpiece, huh? I see what you did there
By David Cage, he's done it again
Thank you for commenting this. I need this to be seen.
I don’t get it, hasn’t he used timeless before?
@@Kelis98 yea, but this time its a reference
@@alkemi9946 A reference to what?, quantum mechanics?
I just realized that every time they offer booker a choice between two items, like the two charms or the two upgrades, they're keeping track. They don't ask anyone except booker. Everytime you decide one or the other they mark it down.
I wonder if it's always the same like the coin is. I wonder about determinism in relation to this.
What’s great about this universe is that it seems to be based on binary choices, but there always remains the hidden third option: no. The whole reason he went to get baptized was because he was gripped by the guilt he felt due to the death he caused at the Battle of Wounded Knee. His actions there created two instances, Comstock: a man who accepted rebirth and made it his mission to destroy the society that caused him to face the horrors he saw at Wounded Knee, and DeWitt: a man who refused to be reborn but couldn’t handle the guilt so he fell into a life of debauchery, leading to crippling debt that caused him to abandon his daughter. These two are diametrically opposed and the universe tries it’s damnedest to make them destroy each other. However, if you remove one of the key points that takes him to the divergence point i.e never fighting at Wounded Knee or coming to peace in his own way, Booker never gets railroaded into these destinies. Multiverse theory says that he always has the option to change, even when he thinks he only has the two options. This game plays fast and loose with its own rules, but still a rather interesting exploration of the ramifications of multiverse theory and how it interacts with free will vs predeterminism.
I chose the cage my first play through and chose the bird the second play through and the twins said they expected the cage the second time
@@samreid6010 Because of the path(s) the game moves from and to, I tend to forget what you just said. The game needs some closure as to not become too broad and challenging to rationalize for most of the players, so it basically makes you believe there are only 2 viable choices -> baptism or not. But of course, as you said, there are a lot of other different possible outcomes to those decisions. I allways cry at this game's ending because I have 2 little ones and can't fathom the immense tragedy both Anna and Booker had lived through. In the other hand any sensible person would grow to hate Booker on a personal level (which in fact is very difficult, because is the main character and we have helped him bond and befriend Elizabeth throughout the game) but by even getting the idea of selling her own daughter, or being able to become a monster like Comstock on the circumstance of faith, let's say Booker is not exactly the greatest of people in my book. Nonetheless, as you said, there are other options and I allways forget this important fact. My mind soothes a bit under the thought that there are Bookers that didn't go on a power rampage and learned how to forget/chose to keep going, just seeing their little Annas growing, playing happily and having a life of their own by Bookers's side.
Trully a masterfull game all in all. One of those stories you know you'll never forget.
@@theheavy6430 M Lutece expects the Cage, F Lutece expects the Bird. There is no functional difference and is not based on previous playthroughs.
sAaALLy! The bastards snuck in while the vox was shooting up the place and TOOK MY GURL!
Got her locked in the back room in the SAHLTY OYSTAH!
Honestly RT should be using that sAaALLy audio clip in everything now.
@@graceholbert2126 maybe it would make a good sun notification noise?
@@Boringspy I don't know what that means but I'd do it
“Theres consequences?!” yeah that sums up you in a nutshell
ok 👍
When you die in this game, your character is 100% dead, the Lutence only bring another DeWitt
Which kinda makes them mass murderers…
@@DeadDancers killing hundreds to save millions
Then why does Booker' s death at the end even matter. You're just Booker from one reality, so his death shouldn't effect any other realities, correct?
@@justaguy11131 you aren't dying AS Booker at the very end, you are inserting an event into a past time. Specifically they are altering the timeline so that any booker who accepts the baptism (and thus becomes a Comstock) will drown in that baptism.
@@justaguy11131 because you didn't, but you are dead. you went to the past with your memory intact, this is where it all started and where it ends.
"Are you afraid of God?" What a way to start a video.
Yes I am
Good@@chcigodugogdydjgkyxufxyyco2050
What a way to start a video game.
49:35 Her singing woke up my cat. He slept through all the shouting, gunshots, screams, and loud noises. But the singing? That woke him.
That is really precious
Cats usually hate singing. They hear it in a different way than we do.
@@peanutinc.7670 Really? I’m a singer and I have a cat, she doesn’t seem to mind when i practice. Maybe she’s just used to it by now?
@@navisakura7374 every cat is different!
I was wondering why the guys at 22:25 were being so awkward and then I realised it was because they weren't actually a hot-dog stand owner and a customer, they were just undercover goons. Awesome detail.
Fun facts RT missed about the lore:
Comstock was sterile due to the Lutece's tests.
Songbird is canonically based off the Big Daddy and the creators of each worked together to iron out design flaws with each.
The red tears are meant to be a hint as how the 1912 musician in this game is making music from much later, causing his success, he basically heard all his songs through tears and just copied them for himself, basically a time heist.
less a time heist more of,
time plagiarism, like that one guy in back to the future who, plagiarized his own song no less,
(all it did was make it come out sooner, and also make him a plagiarist)
He said the first two in the end at the credits.
@@SuperLetsplayfan he didn't say it was due to the Lutece's tests, and he assumed the songbird thing, I was confirming it
@@abloodcorpse3318 Songbird was literally created together with the same doc that created the Big Daddies
@@GaminGusTav I'll update that right away.
1:02:06
Ronald Frank : "SALLY !!!"
Daniel : _"Funniest shit I've ever seen..."_
Fun fact, my junior year literature teacher’s brother straight-up voiced Comstock.
lucky
Nice
Dude that's awesome
@Camping Comrade kinda hard to provide proof for something like that, but his name is Kif VandenHueval
The mother of my friend’s sister’s brother has a coworker who’s son’s cousin has a teacher who’s brother voiced the paper boy at the beginning of Bioshock Infinite.
Just a small detail, but when they were trying to describe Brooke at the very beguinning, I love how none of the descriptions actually fit the American he is. He was French or mixed race or Irish, but _not_ American. A nice little way to show just how fucked up Columbia is, outside of gruesome murder of course.
Before the world wars, even Italians were considered unwanted immigrants in America. At least that was somewhat accurate.
I mean those descriptions fit all Americans, and fits the theme of the game even better. That the city was so racist against all those non-American to the point of making all Americans be literally just the Brits.
Booker is half-Sioux actually.
The only true American is the Native Americans, the Americans today is just immegrants from Europe. It amazes me some of them have have the audacity to "discriminate" other immegrants (Japanese, African American, Chinese)...even the native Americans...
At this point they shouldn't call themselves Americans, maybe United Statesmen is more accurate...
Glad to see it isn't as bad as in the 1900s or 1980s...Yet as recent as 2016 the movements and hostile attitude towards Asian, African American, and Mexicans show there is still work to be done.
@@AaronShenghao Even native americans are immigrants. Humans come from Africa, there's no such thing as a "true american" by your definition.
I got genuinely sad when Songbird died. At least he died protecting Elizabeth to the end. :(
ya definetly one those misunderstood monsters scenarios the entire it was trying to protect her from what it perceived dangerous
But why was it so damn SCARY
I'm glad I'm not the only one who teared up a bit at that
Totally. She straight up murdered him where she once ensured a bee could fly free. That was cold and deliberate - and unnecessary - murder.
only time ive ever cried was for songbird. i love that gigantic funny little bird
You gotta appreciate how RT game is one of those letsplayers that can replay a game for streaming and utilise their story knowledge to enhance the experience, going along with the plot as it happens, using clever foreshadowing, and explaining things at the end. Worth an encore.
19:29
Wait a minute...
1:43:00
It ties in not through the main story, but actually a dlc. In the one dlc, it’s found out that an Elizabeth gave the code phrase “Would you kindly” to Frank Fontaine, causing the first game to happen
Also all those audiologs from Fink, that make it very apparent that a not-insigificant chunk of "ideas" had by him were just concepts he stole from seeing Rapture through tears, he bootlegged Big Daddies to make Songbird, he bootlegged Plasmids to make Vigors, and then of course all there is all the music he straight up stole.
Burial at Sea is by far the worst piece of bioshock media. I'd say it ruins the series but I don't consider it canon
@@The_Jovian i like it
@@The_Jovian I mean, it is.
@@Asterius_101 I'm glad you think so
I love when rt talks about game lore/theories when he’s finished the game. You can tell when he really likes the story of said game
Sadly he was a bit wrong on this one. Bioshock infinite has 2 dlcs which tie the 3 games together amazingly.
@@Neysiriss it gets more sad when you realize the story is barely in the game
It's my favorite part of these longer videos
The song at the end is such a beautiful choice. It’s a modified version of a folk song all about a young woman saying goodbye to her dead mother as the hearse takes her away. In a game about death and rebirth, a song praying for the rebirth of a dead loved one is such a good choice.
Also like that its played by the voice actors of Elizabeth and Booker.
Are you meaning the Carter Family version? 'Undertaker please drive slow, cause the body, you are hauling, oh I hate to see her go'. That version is from the 1930s. The original is from 1907. (Sorry, I read the wiki article)
And I dream of goodbye
Sinking seas, falling sky
And I dream of goodbye
No more tears, well’s run dry
- Miracle of Sound [Dream of Goodbye]
"They...they take him to Good Time Club."
RT: "Well, that doesn't sound so bad?"
*Screaming*
The fact nobody told RT the “Fortunate Son” tear was Vietnam in the 60’s made me slightly upset
Such a nice reference...
Other songs present being Come on Irene, God Only Knows and Girls Just Wanna Have Fun
@@brandonwelsh5090 One of my favorite part of this game is how the FInks just unashamedly steal inventions and music from the tears.
@@Karth557 the flying quartet sing God Only Knows at the beginning of the game
Being a person who studies that Era and loves classic rock that fact pissed me off
I love how gentle RT was with this game sometimes. Like you can tell he genuinely cares about this game
"Well I want a *puppy*, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna get one!" PRESS F TO GIVE THE POOR GIRL A FRIGGIN' PUPPY.
F
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F
F
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This game is both “What the fuck?” And “What the fuck!” at the same time.
Its even funnier when you consider youre saying both of these if multiverse theory holds up
You are asking "what" when the delicious question is "When"
@@Predalien3001 Hwhen*
And when the fuck
@@Absentlime31Welcome if multiverse theory is a thing do you think that in one reality that the bioshock series actually happened cus if so then danm we can probably get a big daddy suit and display it in a museum
me at the start: hey what a cool game let’s see what happened
me at the middle: oh shit this is badass let’s see what the end has in store
me at the end: what the fuck was that i have no words for how destroyed this ending made me feel
The game could have been so much better if they had just stuck with Bioshock 2’s combat system and made the ending less full of itself. Unfortunately Ken Levine’s ego got in the way.
@@samwecerinvictus i mean I liked it. Alot. I put down the controller once it was over and just kinda stated at the screen thinking about what i experienced. Wonderful game 10/10
@@goreman7160 well its your cup of tea not mine though
@@samwecerinvictus
You thought Bioshock 1's obvious basis on Atlas Shrugged wasn't trying to paint a heavy-handed picture? Just Infinite?
@@nashvontookus7451
Ken Levine was very egotistical on both games, but during the development of the first one his ego was tamed by the desire to make a profitable game (which entails making it fun to play) and the fact that he had a limited budget and had to concede parts to the team.
I think Ken Levine just doesn’t know very much about anything related to economics or people. Andrew Ryan creates a supposedly free society in which he is in charge and controls it how he likes. Andrew Ryan is really just a fascist larping as a capitalist. It makes for a deep character, but doesn’t fit with the picture Levine was trying to push his agenda with.
The first game was no doubt heavy handed, full of itself, and self contradictory, but the gameplay and other elements balanced it out in my opinion.
His team went on without him to create the excellent Bioshock 2 and Minervas Den. Riding on the wave of his ego, he declared those installments non cannon and then was given full control over Infinite, which disregarded the good of Bioshock 2 out of spite and saw the introduction of a shoehorned, multidimensional, supposedly deep but really quite shallow, philosophical point so confused with itself that it managed to damage the first game’s lore and completely erase the Second game entirely from said lore.
"booker, are you afraid of god?"
booker who went through the city skylines disasters: yes.
1:41:36
Sean : "He's CallMeKevin !"
Daithi : "He's RTGames !"
GrayStillPlays : "No, I'm Both..."
Lmao🤣
No, this is Patrick
The ending isn't that you have to kill DeWitt to kill Comstock but instead that you have to specifically kill the DeWitt that took the baptism. As DeWitt said you have to smother Comstock right after he is born. All the DeWitt's that chose to walk away still lived.
Why does it have to be Elizabeth to do it and still be Booker.
Each time Booker dies in-game, a new Booker from another time takes his place. The ending is representative of every Elizabeth drowning every version of Booker, though it could be drowning every version of Booker who took the baptism.
The Booker who walks away could go on to become Andrew Ryan.
Ah, Bioshock infinite. I went through the entire game and screenshot almost every time the Angel Columbia statue appeared, good times.
Such a beautiful atmosphere. Still one of my favorite games
My sister loves the scenery, but is squeamish about blood and gore, so she's never been farther than the raffle.
I once tried to look up any mods that reduced the blood content, but only found a bunch of reddit posts where the person asking was told to "man up" in increasingly less kind terms. Thanks internet.
@@Axius27 Yes this game isn't liked by me for it's community
@@kristophia7310 At least it has the core message of 'punch all the white supremacists' :P
@@Axius27 cringe
"There ain't no RT, kid. Name's Frank Fontaine "
"So long, boyo- hahahaha!"
Lol
"You don't fuck Fontaine, Fontaine fucks you."
No no no that quotes from a good game. This one has no redeeming qualities
@@pennyisdreadful That’s nice dear.
@@pennyisdreadful whats with all the blind hate for this game
The ending is reminding me of a quote from To The Moon:
"I never told anyone...but I always thought they were lighthouses. Billions of lighthouses.. Stuck at the far end of the sky. Shining their light at each other, and at me".
A beautiful game, and so is the sequel
To the Moon is such a good game. Finding Paradise also holds a special place in my heart. Changed my outlook at a rough time in my life.
**door opens**
“So we’ve awakened the guy on the trombone...”
best quote from the play through
1: "Ok so uhhhh, this floating city idea is great, but how does it float?"
2: "Quantum."
1: "Quantum?"
2: "Quantum."
1: "Quantum."
It returns in time it seems... like everytime Columbia falls, it returns to where it floats.
Shoulda made it hovering N-rays, would've been era appropriate technobabble, since people didn't fully stop believing in N-rays until we'd figured out what A-rays, B-rays, & G-rays were. (Alpha, Beta, & Gamma Radiation in modern English).
@Steven Hunt fun concept
Lots of hot air balloons
Exactly how people in the 1900s thought we’d fly
What is this, an episode of CW’s Flash?
Dan: **stands**
Homeless man: T H I E V I N G B A S T A R D
_never should’ve come here_
I know it’s a different game but that interaction radiates Skyrim energy
"Lincoln help me fight the other Lincoln! It's the American Civil War"
RTgame 2021
Honestly a super funny joke
america vs america, who will win?
@@cupid3890 Every other country watching the chaos from the sidelines.
The civil war is a bit different from what I remember
This whole game is basically Booker getting one last chance to spend time with his daughter.
That just makes it sadder.
Oof
But doesn't thr ending imply at least one more Booker exists in a universe where he gets to be a dad with Anna forever?
@@samthelion3925Yes, But sadly only 1.
@@Syrr7777what do you mean 1? Literally every booker will have anna since the cycle of comstock and booker is over therefore comstock never existed
13:26
Her: he definitely looked Irish.
RT: *oh no*
*Sees someone get brutally murdered by a guy and some crows*
RT: Ah
When this game came out I was like fuck yea this whole lighthouse thing just means more Bioshock games.... and then they didn't bring out a single game in 8 years.... good times
Yea. Especially since I thought Bioshock 2 was an extremely gimmicky and less enjoyable direct copy of Bioshock 1, then Infinite absolutely blew me away. Tbh Im kinda cool with them making two masterpieces and one ok game and leaving it at that. If Cyberpunk has taught us anything, its that high expectations in this modern game world are going to bring heartache
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 Well, it was leaked that they are working in a new one, so there's that.
@@voltus20 😦😦
The series was meant to end with Infinite, the game was meant to wrap up everything that happened from 1-infinite in an appropriate infinite loop, which it does with the addition of the DLC, the game devs were pushed for time and so Infinite ends in a very wishy-washy way that's open to interpretation (1 Elizabeth remains before the screen blacks out, this is relevant to the DLC but some thought it was hinting at another game) but they never intended to hint at a sequel, and the other funny thing is half the people don't even understand the story and how it all wraps up because they either didn't play the DLC or didn't properly grasp how it all linked together or they got bored of the DLC because it's a lot of world building, narrative and subtlety, any ADHD riddled kid would fall asleep because it's not shooty gun bang bang every 10 seconds and it takes a lot slower pace to fully flesh out the universe and link everything together in a neat package
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 .... Ok, confession time, I liked 2 more then 1
1:00:16 is such a bizarrely organic moment, like for a split second there Elizabeth genuinely heard RT.
I know it's random chance and not real but boy howdy, if you wanted to convince me otherwise, this would be a fair start.
44:04 I never realized the game mentioned The Siege of Peking, that’s actually really neat as it’s not a super known event in American history but fits right in with the time period
"Booker. Are you afraid of god?"
"No. But I'm afraid of TH-cam's DMCA system."
Also, you can really tell a Pratchett worked on the story.
What's the difference between god and TH-cam's DMCA system?
Hidden gold, down here in the comments.
@@alexandramclean9041 That's what I do.
@@joekreissl4499 One supposedly has mercy.
I never took into account just how smart and intelligent Daniel is until after the stream where he nerds out about Literature. I love that our goofy and loveable Stream Dad is also an intelligent and well read Stream Dad.
well he does have an english degree
Wow, smart AND intelligent? Truly a magnificent streamer.
@@JubioHDX He was also the Drift King
@@thatguyintherain3168 No way, when did he obtain this totally regal and prestigious title?
There’s just something about watching RT complete well made games the hits emotionally.
oh man yeah
It’s weird to see just a polished solid game cause they’re not as common anymore, granted they still definitely exist but most are cheaply thrown together cash grabs. It’s sad cause we can much much better games now with the hardware and it’s more often wasted.
You are fighting a ghost in this game. A ghost. And it's time whimey blah blah that scratches on some political themes, but does not follow through with them and throws them away for steins gate forward to the past multi-verse crap.
@@sinisterwombat3128 still enjoyable in the end. As someone who's this was a first into more narrative heavy games, i glad i played it when it came out.
@@sinisterwombat3128 I thought this game pulled it off well. I don't see how people didn't enjoy it.
As a native colombian I can tell you, this is wildly inaccurate
Yeah, I feel you. I mean, hotdogs? Come on
Columbia was the name the USA was considering for a awhile. But in the end Colombia happened to they stuck with the name USA instead of Columbia.
@@sebastianlodge7549 given how America is the name of the entire continent, they could have just called it... idk, since America is from Amerigo Vespucci, it could be Vespuccia
it took me awhile to remember columbia was the name of the city and I just stood here wondering what the hell South America had to do with this
@@strogonoffcore Its the United States of America. United Statss of Vespuccia wouldn't make a lot of sense. And it doesn't really sound all that great either.
On my first few playthroughs of this game, I never realized that Booker seeing Lutece and telling him to "Bring us the girl and wipe away the debt" never actually happened for getting Elizabeth, but that Booker's brain just coped the memory into existence.
42:37
The song heard was Creedence Clearwater Revival’s “Fortunate Son”
One of the most iconic rock songs in history.
In case you were curious.
the trees started screaming when they heard that
Damn, they started a war so a song could be popular
if it was really one of the most iconic rock songs in history, RT would've recognized it right away
@@olliefischer maybe he doesn’t like rock.
@@olliefischer Ah yes, because RT knows everything. Of course. Sound logic.
Comstock went through so much trouble trying to kill Booker, when he could have just paid him more and stayed safe. Booker really didn't give a damn about anything by the dept when he entered
Yea lmao, just, "I'll pay you 500 bucks to fuck off"
It wouldn't make a difference. There are millions and millions of Bookers, the Luteces can keep bringing more and more until one of them succeeds
@@AntarcticWitch Commstock had more money then Luteces had days left to live. Just pay, or tell him he was betrayed and set up. It's not like THEY ever intended to pay.
@@anastasiaklyuch2746 they're immortal timelords, they will keep flipping the coin until A booker succeeds
This story is a tragedy.
None of the characters we grow to love ever have a happy ending. Through out this game and its DLC, all we see is this tragedy.
The only character we see have a good ending is Jack, and the little sisters. It is such a sad game
Charles Milton Porter would like to have a word with you
Jack straight up causes WW3 in one ending though
(SPOILER WARNING)
I'm pretty sure at the end, Booker drowns, (somehow) erasing Columbia. But after that, only one version of Comstock remains, and in Burial At Sea, Comstock dies and Elizabeth's actions in Part 2 cause the events of the first BioShock.
I wouldn't say Delta gets a bad ending. Eleanor gets her freedom, the little sisters are all cured and, because we spare the three people across the playthrough, Eleanor saves Lamb before she drowns in the Bathysphere. Delta dies but he's saved his "daughter" and that's all that matters.
they are more or less monsters you know. I think it might have been the inception of Prey's Typhoon. it's obvious when replaying Bioshock one and two, even Tenenbaum, supposedly the most likeable character, is responsible for so much suffering.. also Elizabeth in Burial at Sea, forgot how much she dislikes Booker.. in the end, she just wants to end it all.
Game: “Sally!”
RT: **wheeze**
INFINITE JS ONE OF MY FAVORITE GAMES YES YES YES YES
it's so good!
@@RTGame is it though?
Yes. Yes it is.
Yeah, it really is, along with the other bioshocks
@@RTGame why do I hear both praise and Critism when it comes to infinite???
@@wingmanbarkerhere1696 Infinite opinions
I usually fear that the highlights would have gaps in the story that confuse me, but that's never the case I come in and out understanding it, thank you to the editors and RT for making all these long videos great ones!
11:07 I forgot he used to play allot of shooters. It’s weird seeing him be good at games
Hmmm yes very good game play maybe he could be good enough to do it with only taking damage 500 times
Agreed
"You guys are obsessed with Birds for some reason"
Because you killed our God RT.
RIP Birb
we never forgot RT
RT: *pulls out gun and points it at someone*
RT once they start attacking: "they aren't friendly!"
1:00:40 “In this society, I’m on the side of Alexander Hamilton, cause he’s makes the hotdogs” -RT
That Hallelujah gives me goose bumps each time .. apparently even when I watch someone else play lol
Bioshock is one of the best game series ever!
When I first played infinite I went in completely unspoiled despite it having been out for a few years. Those opening moments were beautiful. The wit from the twins, the lighthouse, and that "hallelujah" forever stuck with me
YES IT IS ELIZABETH NEVER WENT TO PARIS IM CRYING.
she did, but in dlc
In a dream
@@shockmeu135 phew
@@Dr4x77 she did go to Paris, she just returned to rapture to save sally. The scene shown was a dream but Elizabeth says she went to Paris.
There's always a lighthouse. There's always a man. There's always a city.
and there's always money in the banana stand.
And there’s always *the Drift King*
First thing that came to mind: "A man has fallen in the river in Lego city"
@@StevieTDP This is gonna ruin the joke but the fact that the commenter mentioned a lighthouse implies there's water near the town and it makes the joke so much better
Lighthouse? *Vietnam flashbacks to TABS stream*
Glad to see RT struggled with Lady Comstock, I played this game probably... 6-8 years ago as a teenager, and that part kicked my ass, which made me feel dumb, but the rest of the game was very easy and that was a sudden difficulty spike.
Same.
The Lady Comstock fight felt like the final boss battle.
Oh me too man and my game was bugged where everytime I died to her I got reset back to like hours prior kid me had to give up bc of it 😂
I don't think I have ever seen a condensed play through of any story heavy game, but I have to admit, it's a wonderful format. Especially if you already know the game and just want to remember it.
Excellent execution, my compliment to the editor
God damn, ive replayed the whole series like 4 times, yet even watching this still has the same effect as every single time i played them. These games always make me an emotional wreck during the endings. Every. Single. Time. The number of times this series has brought me to tears is insane, and it will only climb higher the next time i replay them. And the next. These are undoubtedly the single greatest stories ever told in video games.
It reminds me of how some anime make you just question your life
@@Bonsai2680 I feel ya. Pokemon can be intense.
@@dillon9 definitely yep Pokémon is such an emotional anime mmm hmm
This is my favorite game ever made.
Bioshock is my favorite game series/franchise.
These games are amazing both story wise and gameplay wise
One of the ones that loves bioshock then eh?
It comforts me to know that Booker and Elizabeth are living a normal life in a different dimension because of Booker's sacrifice at the end. Wish they would show that ending but oh well, Bioshock Infinite is a Phenomenal Masterpiece!!!
the real comstock was the friends we made along the way
*Elizabeth's we made along the way
So... We need to kill the friends we made along the way?
"Oh I just stole from the cash register, there's consequences" -RT
10/10 quote
I still love that scene...
Elizabeth: "You killed them... You're a monster!"
Oh yea, because they totally were not trying to kill me and kidnap you along the way? Oh sure, I'M the monster for using self defence.
@Steven Hunt Cool, I don't care about your opinion, take it elsewhere, where noone else gives a shit about it either.
Honeslty if you saw multiple men get RIPPED APART IN FROMT OF YOU. You can’t tell
Me you wouldn’t be scared, confused, or guilty.
@@spongy7426
Well if they stabbed the guy and then proceeded to open fire I'd think it was at least a little bit justified.
@@spongy7426 Absolutly could. Simple: Booker was trying to keep himself alive while simutaniously keeping me out of a place i hated. That is an easy thing to do.
This is not a critisism of Elizabeth's character mind you, just that, other characters could do the opposite of what she did and be totally believable.
The news:
Local Irishman destroys America, world celebrates
Lmao
Irish man with one eye
dimwits a damn genius hes holding the gun backwards to kill the other lad
Honestly, I'm just thankful to have RT here to narrate this game. He makes things so much easier to digest and understand. Infinite gave me a bloody headache the first time I played through it, especially the ending.
I hope at some point RT plays Bioshock 1 and 2. They are classics that would be a shame to miss out on. Loved the vid and livestream.
I prefer booshock 1-2 over infinite. infinite felt too tryhard to bring a mindfuck story and became sort of unbelievable imo. 1-2 is far more grounded and thus far more believeable that a world loke that could exist
@@simplig1272 I also got that from those two games. I personally also really liked the game mechanics of Bioshock 2, infinite felt stale.
@The Professor ya song bird was pretty cool
@@simplig1272 That's kinda what's amazing about it tho, the ambition makes it so interesting and engaging. First time I played it through, I literally sat there researching and looking up stuff from the game for an hour or two. Whereas, after 1 and 2, I just had a reaction of "that was cool" and went on with my life. Also, it's a game where you drink potions to possess people, a little bit of suspension of disbelief is warranted.
@@simplig1272 in a game like bioshock, I could care less if it's grounded/believable. I just want a good story, and I got that with this game.
I played this game initially as a teen. Let's just say the ending hits differently now that I'm a father.
Different how?
@@DeadDancers The part about Booker giving away his daughter to Comstock to wipe away the debt.
@@PsychOsmosis yeah I can imagine. Hell, I’m not a parent but I can’t even think of how it would feel to give away your child.
@PsycheOsmosis what's it like being a father and also liking video games? I have never met a parent who actually likes video games and doesn't think they're mostly a waste of time.
@@samurae7370 That used to be the case, but it has become significantly less so in the last decade or so. My son is 4 years old, and we play Lego Harry Potter and other such forgiving games together, where he can play around without hindering me in completing the game. I also built a wrecking ball game for him in Game Maker Garage recently. Not sure what else to say. Feel free to ask if you have questions.
God I forgot how WONDERFUL of a character Elizabeth is.
Yeah she's pretty cool
I love this game. I actually got the collector's edition when this came out. The songbird statue and the murder of crows keychain are both absolutely gorgeous pieces amongst the others that I'm very much happy to have. It's great to see you play this.
44:21 the "Thank you" was in sync and sounds really good
I know this game got, and still gets, a bad rap. And I can understand why. It's a very polarizing game, that went through a lot of changes in its design, from the mechanics to its entire philosophy. But the end product is still as impactful to me now as it was when I first played it; it will always be a deep, meaningful game to me with a lot to it.
“Are you afraid of God?”
Why would I be, considering whose video I’m watching rn. If you fear God over Rumble Tumble Games you have made the wrong decision
Whose*
He should gone through a tear and suddenly Kevin is playing, then when the tear closes RT is back
Lots of people dislike the whole time warping in this game, but I for one kinda enjoy it. It's a fun concept, even if it's not thought out that well. Still my favorite bioshock game, despite all its flaws
I actually really like it since its like my dreams, theres always something off, something different, for the most part its the same, but the details changing are amazing.
The fact that daisy lead the uprising against people hating blacks and irish treating them like subhumans, and when she rose to the top started executing white people Is also amazing, because that is exactly what happens and not a lot of art brings up that topic
I used to have a lot of qualms with how the game ended. If you’re like me and feel like there’s a lot of loose ends maybe try the dlc. It’s not perfect but it helps to close some gaps
I love it man it's what makes this game unique and genuinely intriguing. It really doesn't feel not well thought out to me there's subtle hints in dialogue throughout the game that point to some bigger picture going on. It's practically thrown in your face in the beginning of the game that comstock is booker as he has very intimate knowledge of dewitt for someone who lives in the sky and has never met him or heard of him before that we know of at that time. (You don't really pick up on it on your first playthrough either which makes it even better) And I feel any confusion is intentional or it comes off that way bc bookers mind is making up things to cope with being in the wrong dimension. I actually was unaware this game was disliked I love the world and it's a pretty realistic take on how people are in real life even if it's on a drastic scale this kind of thing has happened before in real life. (Obviously without fantasy video game stuff) This was also my first experience in the BioShock franchise 5 or so years ago and remains my favorite of the series as I'm replaying them all currently.
"Booker. Are you afraid of God?"
"That's a complicated question, it depends on what you mean by God."
Who ever smelt it delt it
@@lewissmith5759 found it, browned it*
@@Vantheman315 no
@@lewissmith5759 You would like that to be the quote, wouldn't me? But it's too late. You snoze; you loze.
@@HYDEinallcaps this guy might be better then me
Bit late but a little heads up about the lady comstock boss fight, she can't resurrect people that have been burned to ash or are headless, so the shock vigor and the fire vigor are some of the best ones to use during the fight as the shock vigor causes a person's head to explode when they die while it is effecting them, and the fire vigor burned them to ash if it kills someone or when they die while it's effecting them.
i love games that go into time fuckery like this, expecially when they take it a step forward and go with the whole "everything is was and can be but also cant wont and didnt happen."
Stuff just, stops mattering when you get to that point, and especially going by this universes rules and how the universe automatically "corrects" itself tot he point booker has false memories to justify why he is even there in the first place. the universe fixes itself and justifies the change so it doesnt just fucking collapse.
so as people might see it as a plothole because time travel shenanigan's, in this universe the universe corrects itself to justify any change made, and the change that they made was, all the bookers that went to get baptized drowned, which deleted all versions of comstock, they nipped him in the bud.
does get rather confusing after this tho.... but its pretty safe to assume that, after a certain point, Elizabeth exists outside of the universe and its normal rules (which is why she doesnt vanish like the other versions of her) the twins could very well exist outside of it, with their ability to exist anywhere at any time but again, its confusing.
but hey, good news! with infinite possibilities that means in some timelines booker never went to get baptized and avoided the set in stone drowning, and judging by the ending, can also have their own daughter!
honestly it's fascinating how the universe's answer to "missplaced person in another timeline for too long" is to either make up memories to "fix" the discrepancy or straight up yeet the person from the rulebook/turn them into some sort of fixed point multiverse-hopper. The Luteces are a case of both situations (the "brother" crossing over from his universe to be with his "sister" and fabricating memories as a result, from what his dialogue implies. and then comstock trying to kill them, but ultimately failing since they're basically a walking schrodinger's cat by that point), while Elizabeth just got yeeted (although it took a long time to happen since she spent most of her life getting her "powers" siphoned away). booker meanwhile died a lot and even got back some memories of his other selves in some of the tears rip
there's so much wiggle room to theorize about the timey whimey fuckery going on in this game and it's, frankly, a delight lmao
you forgot the has, it has happened already
@@katsucandy " since they're basically a walking schrodinger's cat by that point"
or alternatively a Schrödinger's cat with a very very very very very very very large box
@@katsucandy well i mean… not as if we knew how the universe would react to such things if it were to happen in real life
I mean, by this universe’s rules it makes sense there has to be a normal, happy Booker. the whole reason he went to get baptized was because he was gripped by the guilt he felt due to the death he caused at the Battle of Wounded Knee. His actions there created two instances, Comstock: a man who accepted rebirth and made it his mission to destroy the society that caused him to face the horrors he saw at Wounded Knee, and DeWitt: a man who refused to be reborn but couldn’t handle the guilt so he fell into a life of debauchery, leading to crippling debt that caused him to abandon his daughter. These two are diametrically opposed and the universe tries it’s damnedest to make them destroy each other. However, if you remove one of the key points that takes him to the divergence point i.e never fighting at Wounded Knee or coming to peace in his own way, Booker never gets railroaded into these destinies. This game plays fast and loose with its own rules, but still a rather interesting exploration of the ramifications of multiverse theory.