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- The creepy TRUE story behind a 2014 stalking case that gained national media attention, and left a community in shock.
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You know its an old video when he says "Please click Like." Sure you don't want me to take it skydiving and give it a faulty parachute 🤣
Lmao
Ikr🤣 why ain’t you pinned!
Love how his ‘old vids’ are only from 10 months ago. Crazy to see how much this dudes done this year. Favorite channel on TH-cam fr
@@enchanteddiamond3041 Prolly cause the video is old
Oml I KNOW it’s was joke!
What’s “in the walls” were probably hidden cameras. They weren’t being stalked by someone outside. They were being watched from within the house. Hence why the person always seemed to have information that could only be obtained via extremely close proximity
Thats what I thought
Oh yes! I bet you're right!
And we finally found out who "The Watcher" is. It's obviously SychicGamer 🤣
Hahaha
That's certainly a possibility, though you'd think at least a couple of them would get discovered (or painted over and made useless), what with all the renovations the family did.
Then again, if everything added up, the culprit would have been caught by now, and it wouldn't be an open-ended mystery.
Where's that private investigator/detective who solved the case of the dead man in the hotel room based on his cigarette being in the wrong hand, the A/C issue and toothpaste filling a hole in the wall? He'd have figured out who The Watcher was in 5 minutes! I also agree with a ton of people who said to search the walls, and if you didn't want to burn the house down then through a few smoke bombs or something in there.
Just call en exterminator, have it tarped, and then fumigated
i think that guy is dead, but a legend nonetheless.
What story was that? Sounds interesting
@@eisleywatson344 It's "What Happened in Room 348" Solved Mystery.
@@katlynnalmansor4135 thanks!
I love watching his older content to see how far he’s come in his storytelling ability 😊
Tbh he was always my fav storyteller
I was saying to myself the same.
I like this version of his style the best. He's relaxed, not pushing so hard. He's smiles and laughs, something I haven't seen him do lately.
then you haven't been paying attention plus can't blame the man for not keeping it together as easily when he's talking about victims all the time
I think it was just because he got a lot more comfortable in front of the camera. You can tell he just used to be incredibly nervous and felt awkward essentially talking to himself (the camera). I felt that way too when I first started making TH-cam videos knowing I had an actual audience
You tell stories like my dad did.. I lost him in March. Hearing you tell stories makes me feel better 💗
I'm sorry for you loss, but I'm glad you found MrBallen! He's pretty great :)
My sincere condolences on the passing of your Father! God bless you & John B. Allen!
I’m sorry for your loss
Aaww! You just touched my heart with this sentiment. Very sweet. I lost my father, too, but years later, I can say that it does get better over time.
My condolences happy you fond Mr ballen
If I spend 1.3 million dollars on a house it better need absolutely no renovations.
And it better move my stuff in autonomously. Lol
And this is why you will never own a 1.3 million dollar home
@@Rachel......... Yes, because it makes a ton of sense to have to spend $100,000 worth of renovations on a house that cost $1.3 million.
The rich get richer and the poor think they are owed everything.
@@donefinished doesnt matter what i sound like 😁. And your opinion especially doesnt matter lol.
If someone knocked on my door and said “oh sry,- wrong house” and smiled one second too long, then I would b out of there by midnight
hahahahaha
🤣🤣🤣
What if you’re broke and can’t move
@@nikkirose7154 run, run as fast as u can to the cops
Calvin Keller bruh I will sock that person out on god
WHAT'S IN THE DAMN WALLS!!?? DID NO ONE CHECK THE WALLS AND DID NO ONE THINK TO PUT A CAMERA ON THE DAMN MAILBOX!!!!????
Did they even have cameras that worked like that, then? I’m not sure. In the 1980s, they had to hide a camera the size of a Kleenex box amongst potted plants, or hide them behind other objects. I remember seeing a true crime show, where they showed the process. If someone went nosing around, they could easily find the camera. In the late 80s, my mom and grandma were all excited about the fact that you could set a VCR to record at a certain time of day. I wonder when people could first buy cameras that could record automatically, on a timer or motion detector. When I was a kid, I told my mom I wanted a TV I could bring places with me, and not miss my favorite shows. I was in a lot of activities, and liked to explore the woods with friends. My mom said she didn’t think that could ever happen. Now, we all have a TV we can put in our pocket and stream shows. 😂
@@sciencenotsrigmathis happened in 2014
This is insane. He's even like did u check in the walls??
I think it was further back in the day..maybe not. But recording just started being a thing not too long ago. In the last 20 years or something.
@sciencenotsrigma if it was the 80s then no.
The watcher was the guy who bought the house at a $400k discount. Genius move.
Patience
Got em
@Dyl Bully you are the watcher or you bought the house? Or both?
Even better they bought the house at a discount but they also were the ones who originally sold it because they couldn’t afford it anymore, they installed hidden cameras before they sold it
Most likely
I wouldn't have said anything and just randomly burnt that place to the ground in the middle of the night and stuck a sign out in the yard that said "Did ya watch that?"
Love it 😊
😂😂😂😂😂✌
Maybe face a camera towards the mailbox...first?
🤣🤣🤣
I would started stalking the watcher, like get a gillie suit binoculars drove small ways away then slowly crawl back to the house, then leave notes saying I’m watching them n shit
Back in the old days, when Mr. Ballen and the like button didn’t have vendettas against each other.
LMFAO😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bahahahaha this comment should be legend! 😂
Pre-Flannel days. Wonder if that's the motive for the vendetta??
Epic!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Right?! Like, what did the Like button do? 🤣🤣
I skipped this video for so long bc I already knew this story so well.. but mr ballen came through with a few facts I’d never heard! one of the many reasons MB is the best 💯❤️
Like what?
@@HereIsWisdom1318 probably the actual contents of the letters and the issues they were having financially with the house.
I feel like The Watcher was in the walls. Does anyone know if they checked inside the walls? It seems like an obvious thing to do
There have been cases where unknown people were living inside the house tormenting their victims, so this is a possibility.
This sounds feasable, but how did he sneak out to mail the letters?
The watcher said “ Have your kids seen what’s in the walls yet?” So maybe they were I the walls
I think it’s hidden cameras in the walls
That would explain why they said: "Do you know what lies inside the walls?" But idk.
The "Watcher" was probably living in the walls. He or she just kept referencing to in the walls way too much. Clearly these people don't watch horror movies. I would have been busting up some walls right after that first letter.
The thing is more modern homes are filled with insulation and other things but it mentioned that the house was over 100 years ago I belive it would've been smart to cut the walls or put camreas in it to see who
@Holden Mcgroine what?
@Holden Mcgroine ohhh yeah I agree
its the only way she would've known all those details about the family unless he put a recording device inside the house.
100% agree
After the renter incident, I would have really given them something to watch and bulldozed the entire house and property.
Nah fire BIG FIRE!! She be watching mortified in the bushes or something
Rip that house apart right in front of them
wow, there's a lot of people that can afford to destroy a $1m+ house commenting.
Not thinking big enough. Paint it flamingo pink and build a tiki bar on the front lawn. Neon signs. Constant surf rock blasting out. They shall know regret.
With ongoing renovations, an electrical mishap would not be difficult to imagine, and if done correctly, would be undetectable. Insurance would ease the financial burden. The Watcher, even were he/she to know it was arson, would be hard-pressed to prove anything without outing their own identity.
Even if you bulldozed the place outright, the land is still yours. Rebuilding might have made more sense over the $400k loss. And lastly, after installing all the cameras and while doing renovations, if you had it in you, you could always have a safe room built, beef up the security and arm yourself to a high degree. Hang a sign on the front door that says, “Take your best shot bitch!”, and hunker down. I know, I know, kids and all, but it’s possible. Chances are pretty good it was the equivalent of a troll, with little or no power to actually act on their threats.
I have a couple additional questions : did he have the house scanned for listening devices, etc. and who ended up purchasing at the cut rate, and anyone after them - including anyone else that may have eventually profited from the fiasco.
I've been waiting for 2 years for the series to come out on Netflix! It did not disappoint
Whats it called?
Did no one actually check in the walls? When I heard this story, my mind immediately thought that the watcher could be living in the walls, or there could be cameras hidden in the walls.
They were going through renovations they probably would have found something
I remember watching a movie years ago called Bad Ronald abot a teenager who accidentally a girl and his mom hide him in a secret room in the house - she ended up dying and a family bought the house with Bad Ronald still living in the secret room spying on the daughters, stealing food, etc.
@@TheSnowwdog umm I don't understand why you said bro
Or dead body’s
I was thinking a tunnel, in the basement specifically. The writer pretty much tells them were to look
Maybe the things in the walls were cameras? Thought that was obvious lol
Quaderer14 Gaming it might be the birds
Honestly yeah I thought it would’ve been obvious to check the walls cause that would be easy to get all their information without ever being seen
Jack Read they haven’t released it yet probably. they just bought the rights but they haven’t actually released the movie yet
Oh man that’s creepy
I'm the 50th like
Getting a big ass protective dog would have put an end to this BS pretty quickly.
Probably laws against that. NJ has laws pretty much laws against everything.
Big Uneuterd German Shepard . Working Type Not Show !
@Linda Kendrick What's to contemplate? A big dog would have accomplished 3 things. 1. He would have alerted to a stranger's presence giving early warning, as well as pointing out the intruder's location. 2. Would have definitely made the intruder think twice about continuing that course of action. 3. If all else failed, they would at least have a deterrent with teeth.
Dogs are easily poisoned
Its not going to do more than what a pi and 2 fbi agents could have done
MrBallen, don’t ever stop doing this! Your way of telling the true story is captivating. Thank you from the bottom of my heart ❤️ 😁
- Hello, im "The Watcher"
-Hello The Watcher... im dad *Loads shotgun*
410, 12 gauge, 16 gauge, 20 gauge, 28 gauge, 10 gauge, 8 gauge or 4 gauge.
Yeah, I wouldn't have left. Along with a good security system I'd be armed.
@@jackobrien4432 yes
@@aaronhicks1962 just get all of em!
@@jackobrien4432 sounds good
Imagine "the watcher " watching this laughing
Plot twist: it’s u
ethan_from_football 😂😂
Muhahahaa
Well done 😂
I am
If History, Film and Urban Legend has taught us anything, it's to never buy your Dream Home.
I live by this. It could save my life one day
LOL LOL 'The BURBS' baby! (or HOUSE the movie)
Gotta build it.
😂😂😂
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Hi! I am an at home baker and listen to your stories nonstop while I fill my orders!!! Keep going on! You kick ass, my son and I are now addicted to your stories! 😊
How to raise your child to never go camping, go in the woods, go in a cave, or leave home. He'll be living with you when he's 50
Sounds like it was the watcher’s dream house and he waited till it’s cheap and bought it
That’s not a bad idea 😂😂
EXACTLY, but it was a woman's DNA meaning it was some Karen doing that
@@spookypixels Karen’s just mad she didn’t have kids 🙄
@@spookypixels ain’t it always
@@Josh_728 well yea, that's what I mean, the fact that she probably already had a house in the area doesn't mean she can't still be a Karen about the other house she wanted more or something
It’s so crazy watching his new videos and then watching his older videos like this and just seeing how he’s changed everything and gotten so much better at his story telling
I love seeing the change as well I see little funny things like the folds in his green screen and such xD just randomly flickering in and out and I'm like tf is that
I was just thinking this!! I’ve watched him for almost 2 years now & I enjoyed him then obviously but seeing his growth & just becoming so much more comfortable & natural talking to the camera is awesome!! He is by far one of the best storytellers I’ve heard!
Ha, yeah
Exactly!!
When MrBallen first started talking about this case, I was sure he was talking about another stalking/harassing case out of California. This woman named Kathy Rowe was outbid on her dream home in San Diego in 2011 and tormented this young couple who bought the house. She was relentless. She relisted their house online which sent prospective buyers to their door, $1,000 worth of bills for adult diapers and magazine subscriptions they never ordered and ran an ad for a party sending people to their house. It was crazy.
That woman was straight nuts
That is where I thought this was going at first too.
@@rachelzimmerman2773 Was this woman Kathy Rowe ever prosecuted? Do you know the outcome? Thank you in advance, I'm Australian, I haven't heard of this case. Cheers.
@@gregoryholstein4224 Not sure but I think she was not , She had a disabled child that she took care of ... and no one else to take of of the child but her . I remember an interview , she had such a smug face as if proud of what she had done and gotten away with it
@@suziedurrani4863 Thank you Suzie.
It was mentioned by Mr Ballen and I think also in the Netflix series a key detail that many people probably didn't catch. And that was the fact that the watcher said the house had been in their family for years and the grandfather and father watched the house over the years.
Well, because I worked in title insurance before, they should've done a title search on the property going back several decades and that possibly could've helped to find out who was the watcher. That title search would've revealed who owned the property over the years and possibly since it was built.
That's a great idea. It's public record, so it's easy to get a hold of.
Good idea!!
Maybe the grandpa didn’t own it, just “watched it”. Many mental disorders are hereditary and traditions are learned. Grandpa could have been the previous creep, not necessarily the previous owner.
@@MedicaBruja That's a very good point, but I think they mentioned the house had been in their family for years. 🤔
or they could've searched the history of the neighbouring houses because the watcher kept mentioning he could be a neighbour and that he spoke to them
"The Watcher" is probably either a former owner of the house, or the original owner or their descendent. Someone who would've had access at some point to plant hidden cameras within the walls, and has the ability to actively watch them whenever they want. Police should look for all the former owners of the house and see what comes up, if anything.
the watcher is a massive loser, imagine spending your life watching a house
That's what i was thinking. Hidden cameras in the house from the former owners
That’s exactly what I thought .
I checked the comments before posting my thought and low and behold , I wasn’t the only person on that page.
My thoughts exactly.
Possibly the new owners that "won" by getting a freshly renovated home at a $400k discount.
the letter says in quite of few of them. to "check the walls." why didn't that happen?
@Davin Bowyer they clearly had the means to cause that damage since they lived in a 1.3 million dollar house and had put over 100k in renovations that could have covered a hole or two in the wall
This article (www.thecut.com/2018/11/the-haunting-of-657-boulevard-in-westfield-new-jersey.html) I read said that a home inspector had looked but didn't find anything. I still think more should have been done though.
Exactly, if I got a letter like that out comes my multitool, flashlights, and I'm keeping a loaded gun on me until I have scoured every inch of that house and every crawlspace and attic and I'm not stopping till I've either found the "watcher" or am completely confident he is just bluffing.
@@CanteLizzie it won't let me see it. What did it say?
@@demonflowerchild
Link is broken.
Something like this was aired on a crime channel. Turned out to be a woman in the block who was crushed that she was outbid on her dream house. She stalked the family, interfered with their jobs, spread rumors, etc. She was finally discovered and charged.
Good!
Karen strikes again
So that's probably what's happening here too.
There’s a movie with a similar plot, too.
Haha
Got hooked on this dude a few years ago. I don't have a great memory so I love re-watching his stories!
I suspect "the watcher" is whoever bought the house at a $400k savings
That was my first thought lol.
Legit
That’s what I just wrote, good thinking. Also wouldn’t it be smart to check the house for camera’s ? There’s no way there was some peeping Tom watching them through windows.
🤣🤣 elaborate plan
CHECK THIS OUT!!! There was a similar story in the late 70s early 80s with an older retired married couple. EXCEPT they actually got hands put on them by the stalker (nothing serious, couple of smacks & lumps) Never found any finger prints, and a few items left on the porch for them to find (The husbands watch being one of the items). They were suspected by the detectives after they conducted a stakeout but they never saw anything. Look it up, great story! Coincidently their last name is the Wackers (Bill & Dorothy)
"Netflix recently bought the rights to this story"
Proceeds to tell said story for free
EDIT- Another comment states the movie is titled "the Watcher" with a 2022 release.
Not the same thing.
Story was already all over the news and in articles back then. They bought rights to making of a movie or TV production.
I feel confident that Mrballen will do a better job telling the story than Netflix.
Lol
There are other TH-camrs who have told this story. It's not the first time I've heard it.
When I moved into my house someone drove by and screamed "My grandmother died in that house". And I never heard from them again.
Did you hear from the grandfather?
I used to work as an undertaker and one of my biggest takeaways from that job is that a hell of a lot of people are living in houses that someone has died in and they almost certainly have no idea. A *LOT* of people die at home. If you didn't build your house new and it's had a couple of previous owners, the odds of you living somewhere someone died is higher than you'd think.
Lmaoooo
---This was a topic on the NextDoor Neighbor app. A family had claimed that the mom had lived in their house as a child and could they come in and look around. Half the people cheered them for having said ‘Sure, come on in’ and 1/2 of us who were horrified ‘You took STRANGERS word that any of this was true??’ I added that that is why people take pictures, so you don’t impose your memories on new residents of an old house.
@@RiffRaffMama. I sold my 100 year old inherited house to flippers last November. I didn't mention to them that my mother in law lived in the apartment over the garage and we found her dead (diabetes/heart attack). I figure over the years other people died there I don't know about either but I never saw any ghosts.
Of course MrB has done a story on this already!!! Just watched in on Netflix and wow - blown away! Thanks MrB
I find it weird that after putting cameras up he was NEVER able to spot “The Watcher “
@Astolfo Desu The fact that you're using the term "riff-raff" alone makes you a punk.
Prob beacause he was "watching" them he prob knows they put up cameras
@Lord Frieza chill out freezer
Yh right if they install a camera towards mailbox it is easy to spot who the hell is sending letters.
I would’ve left a note in the mailbox that read…. Dear homeowner congratulations on your 110th anniversary enclosed is a deed to your home would you kindly Lee certified check or cash for the amount I paid… Thank you kindly, previous owner
I’d be angry enough to leave a message board on the front lawn: “Obsessed with the house? Like the house? You ruined me so, you get a front row seat to watch the house bulldozed.”
Start with the mailbox. Can't send threatening letters if there's no mailbox. If you want the destruction to stop you'll BTFO. Another letter comes; get rid of the back room. Another letter, another room.
Yup, open propane tank in the kitchen. Gasoline trail. Cigarette. Lighter. Yell around "hey asshole, this your grandpa's house?".
Puff and drop.
Walk away without looking.
"Try watching this, motherf***"
*[explosion]*
They tried to get the house torn down but the Homeowners Association of the neighborhood blocked it.
That would be fkn awesome!!!!
@@darth_kal-el HOAs are such a pain in the ass. At the very least, you could argue the property value loss because of the stalker(s) and hopefully talk them into some modifications that would upset the stalker(s).
Or make it look like arson so you can blame the watcher and collect insurance and the joy of giving the ultimate middle finger to the watcher.
Should of "accidentally" burnt it down.. I would of found a way to get my insurance money out of it no loss n walk away knowing that the watcher had nothing left to watch or would go up with the house. Not smart to threaten a man's family
And burn it quick enough to hopefully kill the person too. I’m pretty sure the watcher was living in their walls or had a secret way into the home
Good thinking
*Should have
@@joe7323 stfu
That's great until the fire rages and burns down the neighbors houses with them inside.
he's probably inside the walls
because he asked if they discovered what was inside the walls
I was gonna say the same thing.
I think him mentioning being in a car passing by was just misdirection to make them think to look outside instead of inside.
I mostly think he was inside because some of the information he knew would've required him to be within 10-15 feet of each of them.
Makes sense, either way hes trespassing so if you have weapons dont be afraid to jump his as* since he wants to be like that and threaten people.
It's probably more likely the house was bugged with microphones and/or cameras in the walls. Probably by a previous owner or neighbor, since one of the letters said he/she was the 3rd generation to watch the house.
She also seems to identify with the house itself. ("You are despised by the house.") Plus, she implied she could get to their children if they went into the basement. Between that and how close she would need to be to learn all that personal information, yeah, this screams "phrogger."
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING LIKE..MYLIE CYRUS THAT HOUSE UP YO
In the middle of the story I'm screaming "he lives in the house! Clearly talked about the walls and the basement!!!!"
Yes! Finally someone with sense! Whoever they were, they were clearly living inside the house
That was my thought also. Especially when they said something about the kids nicknames. Would have sent me over the edge quick.
Ahh, that's possible, make sense why they were pissed about the family that had noisy kids, and not the couple before them
I was thinking some kind of cameras or mics in the house but these makes way more sense! Holy shit thats creepy as f#%^!
Yeah based on so many other of his stories with hidden doors in the basement or people living in the attic and shit like that, I almost immediately was like “THE LETTERS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!!!” Haha 😂
"they were being watched by this.. phantom menace.."
Thanks, now I'm imagining Darth Maul is stalking this family.
Maul is that DUDE! -Duel of the fates begins-
😆
With his scout droids lol 😂
Just imagine Darth Maul looking in your window at night like 👁👄👁
Duel of the fates stars playing as he steps from the closet.
I'm a very petty person. If I get forced out of that house, or see "the watcher won", once I'm ready to move, I'm burning the house down. The watcher seems ro really like it and I'm that spitful.
Yep, insurance job for sure. Wouldn't have lost $400,000 that way.
Well that’s considered arson 😂 ..,you’d have to be very good at it to get away with it and get insurance.
@@charliedallachie3539 I am.
I would too. Burn the house down.
But, what doesn’t make sense to me is how with all the cameras they didn’t get footage of the guy putting a letter in the box
@@The_ZeroLine I didn't even think about that...
"The calls are coming from INSIDE the house!" 👀👀👀
Note to self, walk into the house & yell you can live in the walls but you’re deff paying rent! Guarantee they’ll leave 😂
Lol
Lol ur silly 🤓
Lol
Since it was a female he coulda just asked her for a commitment n she woulda ghosted him in a second lol
True
It's clear he was living in the house watching them. I would've sealed up and tented the house and bug bombed the hell out of it for a week. If he survived all the poison the next letter would be funny AF 😆
Oh that is awesome!!!
I’m not even mad at this creativity 😂
Lmaooo, not a bad idea...But my exact thought was he was living in the house as well...In order for him to know certain things he mentioned he would obviously have to be inside...
That’s what I was thinkinh
Best idea ever!!!
MrBallen: Imagine yourself in their position - would you have stayed, or would you have left?
Few seconds later, "They bought their dream home in New Jersey..."
Me: I would have left.
It ceased to be my dream house the second I found out it came with a stalker lol
Lmfaoooo unless you’re born in jersey NO ONES dream house is in jersey
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
new jersey is actually pretty nice if you never go there
Mr Ballen is a Navy Seal, the watcher would "disappear "
And here I am binge-watching all of his videos as if I need them to survive! I love these videos :)
I feel like if this happened now it’d be trending online and teenagers would be lining up to rent it and make TikToks in there.
Yes perhaps, but if they're like me they wouldn't be willing to pay a substantial amount of money in order to film inside it. Being the arrogant fuck I am I'd be like "okay, I'm going to figure out whatever this bullshit is so good luck trying to get past me when all I've been passionate about my ENTIRE life has been figuring shit out." And honestly I'd simply figure it out, that's just what I do. They have literally zero chance once I've locked onto them. Once you know about cognitive bias, ego (seemingly ironic here), VERY irregular environmental possibilities, and all of the other self-perpetuating thought-loops that even the most rigorous scientists fall victim to, you can simply get closer and closer to the truth until you find it.
@@sweetnumb is this copypasta
Stupid generation
It has been an on going thing for what the past 10 years or so. They could of and maybe should of been videoing and blasting it ever since it started. Someone needs to follow up with the person that bought the house after them.
The watcher’s tendency to conflate herself with the house itself and the references to “what’s in the walls” suggests someone living in the walls or living in them vicariously in them via cameras. And yes, former owners and their relatives would be the place to start… “my grandfather … and my father… and now I…” Fumigating the house is a great idea!
I think before you hire a private detective, you should hire a mystery writer. They have Machiavellian minds that can imagine any scenario. In my case, (I like writing, but not mystery), I advocate a history of all the owners of that house, and if it was ever "lost" to debt, death, or whatever. And he would do the same with all the neighbors on the block. It is impossible that they did not know anything... or at least that they did not hear the rumors of those letters. If only the former owners received it... hmm, I'd highly doubt them.
exactly!
But there are ways to have a place swept completely for any such devices. You likely have to pay quite a bit for this but doable. Also the “hidden in the walls” thing might be a red herring to get them to waste many thousands of dollars to do this and then repair it.
So this was the first video where Mr. Ballen used the phrase "strange, dark and mysterious"
Binging this channel brings me so much joy 😍
I know! It's a strangely sad joy. Hmmm...
@@frogpalpeeper4249 Okay killer put the urge down
😌
He says it on every video?!
@@danparry834 yes
Now thanks to Mr Ballen, we get The Watcher Movie. You know this is a O G Ballen video, no flannel. I miss these days!!
Imagine if The Watcher was really the eventual buyer and it was all an elaborate plan to get the house for a cheaper price.
lmao
That would've been a crazy yet very effective way to do it. Lot of risk of being found out though!
I thought that too
Yeah, did the new owners get any letters?
Scooby-Doo villain
Bruh I hear my fridge make a weird noise and I’m ready to move out
😂🤣😂🤣👍
Lol🙏🏽
Baseboard heating is nice to have. When the furnace kicks on, you will hear the heaters start ticking as they come to life. So pretty much any sound outside my room after dark is just chalked up to that
@@JK-gm6kk I have baseboard heaters. You come to learn all the sounds they make over time.
ME TOOO😱😱
If they where already doing work on the house why didn’t they tear out the walls to see what the watcher was talking about? I would have had that place lit up with cameras for sure.
Exactly what I was going to comment, they already spent over 100k on the house. Fixing some walls wouldn't have done much harm.
Agreed
It was a hoax
So much of this doesn't add up
Thats a huge house with a lot of walls. Do you have any idea how much it would cost to have them torn down then rebuilt? Not to mention the time and mess. Any carpets would be screwed.
I just watched The Watcher on Netflix so naturally I had to see if Mr Ballen had covered this dark and mysterious event in story format yet. I was not disappointed. But now I cant stop thinking about WHY has the stalker not been caught yet? Couldn't they just put a game cam inside of the mailbox to record who is putting mail in their mailbox? There was no return address or stamp on the enveloped so it couldn't have gone through the postal service. Someone is physically delivering those letters. With all of the cameras that were put on the house I'm just surprised that no one thought to monitor the mail box. Unless I'm mistaken!
I think possibly that whoever is picking up the mail is the one placing it in to then be "picked up" with the other mail.
The mailman.?
Good point regarding the cameras... an inside job most likely
@@ronald-ok2wcdid you read the comment? It doesn’t have a return address so it couldn’t be delivered via mailman… unless you’re suggesting the mailman was the watcher
Apparently the owner angrily refused to put a camera on the mailbox which the police suggested. He was definitely the one “sending” the letters smh
Pretty sure that if the whole neighborhood was keeping my house from selling I would turn it into a homeless shelter or soup kitchen and made it a tax write off or something to lower the entire neighborhood's property values. Or tore it down and moved in a mobile home for the same effect. Especially if you were going to have to eat a $400K loss to sell it as is. Wonder if the watcher would still claim that as a victory.
Demolish the house and put up the ugly construction fencing around it so it would be an eyesore for the neighborhood.
I like that, I would just paint it in the worst colors possible, with a huge big set of paranoid eye's staring back. One theory I haven't heard much is maybe there were multiple offenders.
That most likely wouldn't work. High income neighborhoods like that usually have some sort of association you pay dues to and they collectively approve or disapprove *any changes you make to your *property and house.
@@Cyanidesin Like planning permission?
I'd turned into an AirBNB for rappers.
My gut feeling is that it has to be one of the previous owners. They had access to the house so could bug it fairly easily while they were living there. The reasoning I would guess is financial, they sell the house, tank the value and then someone they know buys it back at a later date and they split the profits. Just guess work but that was my feeling as I was listening to the story.
they sold the house and already had the money, why would you then tank the value on purpose? There is absolutely no guarantee it would work. It has far too much room to backfire. So you split the profits, then what? Your still down as it was 100% your house in the 1st place. You may as well just give away half your house to a friend and hope that your plan works. On a 1.3 million dollar house. Doubt it. Also, the previous owners would be under the most scrutiny by the cops.
@@robinmcara793 sell high, buy back at lower cost. If they didnt actually own the house yet and were making payments on loans it would make sense. Now theyre out of debt and its in their name or at worst a close friends
@@peytonlytle7153 the house is only worth what it's worth in the current market. No more, no less. Its a million dollar property. Do you not think if it was that easy everyone of us would live in mansions? They check these things you know. I'm a landlord. I understand how it works. This family made a huge loss on a house they bought up front. If you have that kind of money you don't need to come up with scams. Why go to all the extra effort on something that is a total gamble. I get where your coming from but I respectfully disagree. If you have a million to buy the house in the 1st place. You could then borrow money to the value of the house. I don't think that was the case here. This is a very high end neighbourhood. There's simply to much risk involved in that kind of plan. What if your partner in crime is beaten by a higher offer? That's you lost everything. There are simply too many risk factors which you have no control over in attempting this kind of thing. I just don't see it being the case. Merry Xmas.
My gut feeling is it was the new owners who bit off way more than they could chew moving from a 300k house, I've heard, to a 1.3 million dollar house. That's a huge step up. They wanted to look/be rich but weren't and concocted this insane BS. I completely dismiss this, people watching a house for 80+ years, crazy stupid
very modern view! 👍
good job
They're receiving these letters. In their postbox, in front of the house. They have security cameras. Nothing pointed at the mailbox? No camera from a neighbor pointed at their mailbox? Now days, you could probably put a camera in your mailbox. Seems really stupid that this wasn't solved.
Seriously... dude would wait inside the house for hours in pitch black darkness to stare out at the mailbox. Just point one of the damn cameras there ffs
The same thought came to my mind.
But then it would capture the new owner posting the letters to himself. People try anything to get property for less
What if they've been send through regular post service? The only thing you would spot is the mailman.
@@tngdwn8350 They never said the letters were post marked or had the address on them. So they seem hand delivered
That "Watcher Voice" scared the hell outta me while I was driving and listening!! Awesome job John! You rock! LOVE your stories ❤️ I listen every single day!!! I drive for a living and you entertain me allllll day! Keep the stories coming! :)
Isn’t it the same voice as “Do you know how to get to Bell’s Canyon”? Scary af.
@@brendatomlinson Yes, it is.
@@LyndaReilly Thank you!
Watcher: I'll be watching.
Me: *Burns down the house.*
Watcher: 👁👄👁
Cant watch what isnt there!
😆😂 of my god this would've been perfect
I mean seriously, He should've set his own house on fire and the police would've blamed it on The Watcher
Yeah2 and he can get insurance claim... It's a win2 haha
Literally my first thought. Lmfao thank you.
Two FBI agents and they didn’t look into the walls? 🙄
Yeah something doesn't seem right
I don't think the police did much, they looked into one strange guy in the neighborhood then finding it was a female looked into, what his sister. That poor family losing all that money. It was mostlikly the oldest mother living with all her adult kids. I'm sure that wouldn't take up much of her busy schedule. I felt like this bravado was really put on to miss lead the readers of the letters. Especially by so proudly pointing out the grandfather had passed on the duty of the watcher to this kin which one would automatically assume male. Who they want you to believe that.
You don't know how hard our job is
Maybe they did... and found *_asbestos_* insulation so they decided to cover it up.
James McDonald I wasn’t necessarily thinking asbestos - but something was in the house somebody was hiding. Lead paint was my first thought mainly because painting was the mans first actions. None of the participants were totally honest but what always struck me was none of the neighbors were concerned with this watcher. I mean - all my neighbors have cameras everywhere - there’s no privacy outside my house. That’s disconcerting even though it’s not to specifically watch me it’s still disconcerting. How did the neighbors think this watcher solely focused on one house? I’d still get more giant dogs lol maybe a tiny dog to alert the giant dogs lol that would inform ya real quick if there was “someone” there or if it was cameras and even them cameras need power and maintenance eventually.
By far my favorite youtube storyteller
That’s so cool!!
Same
This version of the story is much better than the Netflix version.
Netflix have ruined the story… thank god there are real storytellers like you.
That's why I don't understand why people were suggesting Mr Ballen to go on Netflix. Cause it would only ruin his content, plus you'd have to pay to see it.. No thanks. He's doing just fine on TH-cam, where it's free for us to watch & enjoy
@@TyeArtisikplus he’s still getting paid maybe not as much but he can do what he want as frequently as he wants and it’s HIS OWN business
I’m just glad after finding this I don’t have to watch the Netflix series. I was anticipating an ending that brought resolution to the mystery.
@@brendatomlinsonno, I’m sorry but you still are required to watch it. Please promptly report back after. Thank you.
Agreed!! Why waste hours when you can watch it in 20 mins
No flannel?!😱 Now THAT is "strange & mysterious"...lol
Lol 😂
You Forgot the color it's "DARK" too..
Omg right!!!
Holy crap 😯
Lol I couldn't figure out what was off but knew it didn't look right
I was being stalked when I was 15. I worked at McDonald's, baby sat on weekend nights and at the flea market with my mom on Saturdays and Sundays. I helped my mom deliver Avon to her customers and worked off and on doing inventory at her boutique/store. I ran track in school. I was in choir. I was really, really busy. I was able to pay to have my own phone in my room, with my own number, which was privately listed, and not many people had the number. So, I started getting these calls from a young man late at night. He would ask me questions to see if I could guess who he was. He acted like it was a game of sorts. I thought it was a joke that one of my friends had given him my number and he was just messing with me. After a couple of times, I'd told him that I want to know where he got my number. He said " I know everything about you". Well.. really.. THAT was unnerving. I asked him what he meant by that. He told me what I'd worn today, where I was, who I'd seen and how I got back and forth from there. Okay.. he might have seen me. He went on to tell me that he thought I was really pretty and that I should get to know HIM better, because he was trying to get to know me. I asked him for his name. He hung up. So, I decided that was enough. I asked my mom to take me to the phone store to get my phone number changed (80's. No internet. No cell phones.) So, I got my phone number changed and gave it to about four people. McDonald's had it. My mom had it. The people I babysat for on Saturdays had it. My closest best friends had it. My father, who lived in another state, didn't even have it. Hell, I don't even think my stepfather had it. lol Anyway, it was nice and quiet for about 3 days. My mom started getting calls on her store phone and on our main home phone. I didn't ever answer the home phone. It wasn't for me, and mom had an answering machine. She'd always told me that I shouldn't worry about it. The "guy" called my mom's house number, asking for me. He called my mom's store asking for me. I had told my mom that if this guy calls, tell him that I am not here and that I don't take calls on her phone; it's a business phone at our home. The calls stopped for a couple of more days. Then he ramped up, calling over and over.. I want to talk to her. I have to tell her something. It's important.. I told my mom not to give him my new number. I quit working at McDonald's. I changed my schedule up a little bit on where I went and if I went to the flea market again.. I still babysat, but asked the parents of the little boy (he was almost 10, according to him, but really 8 1/2.. kids) if I could bring a girl friend with me babysitting because this weird guy has been following me and I am a little nervous about being alone. They agreed, knowing me well enough that I wouldn't be partying or anything. I was and am responsible. So, I am at the babysitting job with my friend, and introduce them to my friend and they said that their college aged son is home for the weekend, but he's out with friends. He may come home later and he can hang out with us if we want him to. I was sort of comforted by that. So, the night goes on and the child is in bed, asleep by some miracle. It's about 9:30 when the older son, the college freshman, comes home. He's wearing college baseball shirt and hat with jeans and sneakers. He comes in, looks at us and tips his hat, taking it off, tossing it on the couch next to me and he sat in the chair to my right. He hadn't said a word. I asked him "So, you're in college?" He just nodded did a mm hmm noise. I gathered he must be shy and it may be awkward having two strange high school girls in his house. The phone rang. Instinctively, I jumped up to get the phone. "I got it" he said. My heart leaped into my throat. He's the GUY. THIS is the guy who's been calling me, following me, harassing my mom". I turned toward my friend and said "that reminds me.. you need to call your mom at 10 to tell her if you're spending the night at my house or not". I gave her a "CALL YOUR MOM" wide eyed glare. when he hung up the phone, she called her mom. She told her mom that she was bored and to come get her. so, her mom was on the way. Thank GOD! The parents hadn't called and I couldn't for the life of me remember what restaurant they had gone to, and how was I going to explain this all to them, with their son the freaking stalker right there? So, when my friend's mom reached the house, we BOTH went outside to meet her. I told her that the older brother was here and I could actually leave now, too. I leaned into the car and whispered. please take me with you. I am scared of this guy. So, I left my purse. I left my jacket. I left the child with his brother. I went through the phone book at my house when I got home and found the restaurant that the parents had gone to. I called them at the restaurant and told them everything on the phone. All of it. They apologized repeatedly and told me that they'd call me when they got home and they'd bring my stuff to me. I told her not to. I said to bring it to my mom's store, which was closer, and the mom shopped there. She agreed. I got my stuff from my mom's store. About a month later, the guy called me at my new number, which he'd found at his parent's house. I had taken my mom's speaker phone from the store and put it in my room, just in case, because I was still pretty scared. I recorded the call. He'd threatened me. He told me that I could have had a great "thing" with him. He adored me, but now he saw who I really was and he hoped I'd "drop dead violently". So, I reported it to his parents, my parents and the police. My mom changed the locks on the house, added locks and I changed my number yet again, giving it only to my best friend. The next year, I was in the mall and I saw him with his mom and his younger brother. I walked over to the other side of the mall. His mom called out to me. She apologized again. She asked her son if he had anything to say. "nope" was his answer. That was the last time I ever saw or heard anything from him. I got lucky. But ever since, I have been afraid to give any information to people.
That’s pretty freaky… decent effort on documenting the story here!
I agree with a great comment here.
Please, make a screenshot. Maybe, you’ll remember more.
it might help people.
Thank You, Great Point 👍
whoa! that’s creepy!
I am so glad you got out of that situation safely!
There is a reason I only use my initials where I think I need a "name". I wasn't smart enough to come up with something 1st time around. Most people think it's some sort of awkward "CJ" or such that doesn't flow together. Or that I'm a guy. I just need to protect my ID after some crazy crap.
Maybe “The Watcher” wanted the House for himself/herself. I wonder if this was an elaborate scheme to allow him/her to be in a position to purchase the house at a ridiculously low price.
It sounds that way....
Yep. Probably toured the house with the Realtor, thats how they knew the layout, basement, stuff like that
you're a broker
You’re the FBI
that's what i was thinking.
Man you have come so far in your story telling.
sounds to me like the watcher had surveillance set up in the house, would have only taken a day or 2 to have a good look around.
what a waste.
they did...they found nothing....more like he was in the house it was even said they scanned in police reports for mics/cameras..
FoxyKitty they mentioned don’t go in the basement
We are talking NSA scanning tech, not very limited local police tech. They you FLIR the entire home to see if someone with body heat is in there. Easily able to figure this out by using the best technology.
Infared scanner would do it, few electrical scanner also. Keep yourself armed and let it be known tresspassers will be shot in the chest and survivors in the face
You know it's a good neighborhood when the police actually investigate threatening and harassing letters instead of just telling you to call them when something happens.
Absolutely!
The minute he mentioned the kids and taking them I would've been on a manhunt.
For sure that’s a good way to get shot
Fr. These people just bought a 1.3 million dollar house, why not spend a little extra on high tech cameras and security systems.
threaten my kids i threaten your life if someone says stuff about my kids like that :)
@@izzyrodriguez9609 I don't make threats. That's how the term "premeditated" gets thrown around the courtroom.
@@lilfattcatt7758 there are things far worse than getting shot for threats against my kids. The watcher would end up on an episode of 411 missing.
Netflix definitely took inspiration from your video. Especially with the voice they used for the Watcher
I'm glad I found your channel I really like these stories.
Glad you like them I crap my pants bro
@@hannahwalker051 they're awesome and he tells them very well .
See.... I’m so hard headed that I’d take on the watcher and leave THEM notes in my mailbox lol pulling a Liam Neeson “idk who you are but I will find you...” no one messes my family lol 😂
LIAM. NEESONS. IS. MY. SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fr. Me too . big ol sign on the door . says " fuck with me " lol
realistically you probably wouldn't be able to do much
thats hilarious because a new liam neeson movie trailer has been playing in ad breaks while watching MrBallen and i thought "shoot dude did your daughter get kidnapped again?"
Lol yes, you're so scary with your small frame and female muslces.
I've heard of this story many times before but you did it the best. Good job I love your channel.
Thank you!!!
Agreed yes Ive heard it b4 but still enjoyed hearing it again same with the ghost one. But not many of those I haven't heard probably! Loved your snowboarding story from when you were a teen
The mini series just came out on NETFLIX in Australia and I immediately knew where I'd heard the story from. Your story telling is so memorable. Keep at it! You're a force to be reckoned with 💕
I was coming to comment the exact same thing!
Omg I just started the series and I was so confused bc I knew I had heard it somewhere!!
Same here, had to re-watch this before starting the series.
You're not gonna say the name of the mini series!!
Fun fact about Westfield, New Jersey: it was where the Addams family lived.
Huh thanks for the fact
The creator of the Addams family grew up there and John List murdered his family there .
And now John Rzeznik from the Goo Goo Dolls lives there lol
They weren’t Irish, obviously
Weaklings
This is literally the movie The Boy. How did they not check the walls a single time?
Idk, It seems like the most obvious thing to do
I’m sure they did check the walls but apparently they didn’t find anything.
@@kellycroley6086 I feel like he would’ve mentioned that in the video.
@@stormysheppard3368 i found an article where the police checked the walls and found nothing
@@fuhjrvr7474 that’s good to know, he was just good at hiding then.
"The watcher won" makes me wonder if it was their plan to get the family to sell the house for a cheap price. Maybe they just wanted to buy it.
The growth in quality if your videos in just a couple of years is astounding. No wonder you're one of the top channels on youtube. Keep up the great work Mr. B
The most surprising thing about this is that someone said they loved New Jersey.
I can think of some other things some probably call you...
@@robpierce4712 what?
Lol
Giving myself away by saying "yup". LOL
Hahaha!
I love Mr. Ballens content. I have never enjoyed scary movies, but the way he tells these stories is addictive!
Sameee
The watcher never found bells canyon so he started lurking around houses?
How dare you make that reference!? Gave me goosebumps 🤣
I love this so much! Every video I watch has to have one comment about bells canyon 😂
This comment made my day!!!😂😂😂😂
lol
Do you know where bells canyon is
Wow so just finished watching this on Netflix. Came to TH-cam to see if any more information on the REAL story. John, you amaze me. Pretty sure Netflix producer saw your video and decided to use the scary voice when the letters were “read”…. Thanks! Now we know……………. The Rest……………. Of the story (As Paul Harvey used to say).. ❤
I don't even know what's creepier. This video, or your last tik tok. Thank you for your service sir. Keep up the good work. Love these videos. Appreciate all of the content you put out. Thank you.
Appreciate you supporting me on both platforms!
sooooo they installed all these cameras and never once looked at any of the footage 🤔🤔🤔
Right! How do they keep getting letters with no vid of the guy dropping them in the mailbox
Yeah I was thinking the same thing Surely one of the cameras was faced right at the freaking mailbox
She probably just mailed the letters, so nothing would be on camera anyway
Tristan Neely no you don’t have to have a return address.
So true
I feel like the watcher had some hidden access to their house. I bet it was the weird family next door.
The only way someone could pull this off without getting caught is if the watcher was able to leave the house without being seen - and since the family had many cameras installed, I think there was probably a hidden entry to the house. I’m going out on a huge limb here, but maybe there was an underground tunnel from the creepy neighbors house to a hidden area in this house.
OR the watcher had some sort of audio device installed inside the walls somewhere that allowed him/her to listen in - but even that would require the watcher to get inside the walls to plant the device, change batteries, etc.
Idk this is interesting though!
I think you're on the right trail. It'd be easy for someone who knew the house well, like the watchers, to get in and out while it was up for sale through the years. She did admit to her family having watched the house for decades.
I have heard this story a few times now and this story reminds me of the movie The Boy where he was thought to be dead, but he lived in the walls of the house. If The Watcher was a real person, I would imagine he or she may have been living in the walls too. Or a secret room that no one knows about. I don't understand how no one looked in the walls or at the blueprints for the house to see if there was a hidden room or enough space in the walls to be able to come and go as one pleases. Since the basement was mentioned, it's possible that this person was in the basement also.
and what was in the basement that should be scary and how could he get in there to grab their kids. Maybe that is where the secret access is.
Could a group of people have done it? I mean isn't that what makes the most sense. Even a group of teens? Hiding on roofs, getting camouflaged, being so close with information. Multiple people have a lower risk for getting pinned with a specific act if they aren't present for a single act. Plus, even with being recorded from inside the home whatever is in those walls would cost the livelihood of someone who needed to retrieve it or would be able to caught in one way or another. But the thing is, I don't think it was about the house at all. I think it would be about someone trying to see how long they would have before getting caught and how much of an effort they would get out of someone else trying to find them.
@@ChromaKeyMystress just fumigate the whole house and camp out on the lawn with a rifle
I had to re-listen to this because I got severely bored with the Netflix version and turned it off soon after I started it. Mr. Ballen's mastery of storytelling is far more intriguing and entertaining than a show with a multi-million dollar budget.
Imagine getting the first letter and being so excited like “honey, they’re welcoming us to the neighborhood!” But then you read further and it’s just like “Oh shit!”
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🤣🤣🤣
Jajaj
Lol, I remember in the 90s it was more common for neighbors to stop by and welcome you if you just moved in, leave gifts etc. they still do where my parents live. I guess it depends on the neighborhood but it’s more rare today since more people keep to themselves. I don’t even know my own neighbors in an apartment
@@charliedallachie3539 I live in rural Ireland just a 5 minute walk from my village and rarely see my neighbours.The houses have 8 foot hedges/fences around them and they all drive everywhere so you never see anyone in the actual flesh.It’s kinda weird actually 😐
“I am never going to financially recover from this.”
🐯
That darn Carole Baskin.
But like "I'm not going to emotionally recover from this either" fits too
Klinika M. That works as well
At least no one got hurt,killed or missing
Guarantee "The Watcher" is whoever ended up buying the house for $400k below market value. That's who I'd be looking at. Them or whoever they outbid to get the house in the first place.
Mr Ballen you make my work day. I literally binge watch you for like eight hours ❤
first thing I would have done when mentioned do you know whats in the walls, I would have bought an Inferred camera to scan the walls
Depends on what it is. I would have cranked the AC up to look for electrical components in the walls. If that failed I would have went with a full bug/ camera sweep from a security firm. Go in the middle of the night to set up a trail cam facing the mailbox and put one inside the mailbox on the off chance that the watcher looked her dumb ass face into the mailbox when she dropped off the letter.
I would also start leaving notes for the watcher to tell her to come get some. Lol
@@perdedor3571 they litrelly sold they house for 400k over sum letters😂😂😂
Good idea‼️‼️
I've always believed that the person who was stalking this person was someone who also wanted the house, but lost out to this couple, probably because they couldn't match the price or something like that, and that enraged them and they got real bitter because of it. I believe that led to them stalking the new owners of the house, and using the knowledge the gained while they were already shopping for the house while it was on the market, and just threw that in the new owners face. I mean, it's the only thing that makes sense to me. Good video
It's not a bad idea...........except, when they did put it back on the market for a much lower price, no-one bid for it.
I think it was the people who bought the house. They had buyers remorse or wanted attention or something
If that’s the case, why did it take them so long to buy the house when it was back on sale?
That's my line of thinking too, I do real estate title for a living and it could've been a family that was quieted out of the title previously, like in a civil suit but felt they had a legitimate claim. I'd also look into all of the children of the previous owners, sometimes a parent will own it with adult children that have to divide it in the will or by law and they have to sell it, but one of the previous owners kids really wanted to keep it. Especially since the video says it was watched in previous decades by his or her father and grandfather.
Makes more sense than the parents being behind it.
I'm just shocked there isn't more comments about Shane and Ryan, from Buzzfeed Unsolved, now their own channel called the Watcher haha, they're the best, and did a great video on this case
He should’ve paid someone to check his house for cameras and mics.
That would have been my first step after the watcher had so much info on my family and the things we were doing inside the house! I'd be scanning for electronic bugs so fast!
Exactly. That was my first thought
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Do a sweep of the house. Bring in those thermal cameras the police use and check every wall. Like how did d the police or fbi not do this?!
I know I’m late, but I have to agree. All it would take is a couple of mini nanny cams behind a couple heat registers to pull off this terrifying stalking. Can’t believe the first thing the cops and PIs did wasn’t check for cameras and/or listening devices.
Love your story telling..I love telling stories myself and do a lot of investigating anything strange & weird! I actually have retold some of your stories!!! Lol, but I always tell everyone where I heard it & then I put them on by showing them all ur podcasts! Thanks 🙏🏽!
If I had a family I wouldn't want this to happen to me and my family. However, as a bachelor... I would have fun with this.
Nailed it.
That would be funny, but most likely you wouldn't be targeted, people pick up on others vulnerability and weaknesses
Ditto... I'd have taunted the shit outta this guy! 😏
That's it. Lol
Walking around naked 24/7 inside, and just randomly shooting holes in the walls. Night hunting the mailbox. It's just funny that all the notes showed up in the mailbox, but they couldn't figure out how to catch the person... How incompetent can they all be??
My first thought would be: “Ahhh hell no!” And then I would be gone forever
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lol this my first thought 😂
William Gillispie YESSSS
Jack Read they’re probably working on it and you might be waiting a while
Hahah
No dude i would put a letter in my own mailbox and call myself the hunter next time someone opens the mail box they finna get bit by a snake
What if the “watcher” was just another buyer that didn’t get to buy the house so he wanted to send them all those letters so they can leave and he could move in 😂
There is actually a story like that. It was broadcast on one of those similar 20/20 programs. The person harassing the family was a woman, one who lost out of the bidding war for the home. But then, why didn't the "watcher" purchase the home at the discount? Or, who bought the home and are they a suspect?
@@Roadrun100 i honestly thought that's what this story was
Roadrun100 I always think of that crazy b**** when I hear the watcher story
@@Roadrun100 yeah I saw that episode on 20/20
Its 10 minutes from me...been going on for decades not a sour buyer
The very best story teller!! 💯