A couple FIFAs ago I got 3 80+ potential CBs from Hungary and Moldova along with 2 CDMs from New Zealand.. They were all 6'5/6'6 and had over 70 pace. It was impossible to score on them and they scored from a corner almost every game. They were so good I played a 3-2-1-4. That was a special save
The way I keep it realistic is by signing youth scouts, rather than players with a specific rating, and the higher the league, the higher the rating can be.
I do something similar but if I do sign somebody with a lot of value, I try to sell them as soon as possible since a high potential 16 year old in ligue 2 would likely be snatched up quickly
I've gone to the Baltics and founds loads of wingers, attacking mids, goalies and midfielders. Lithuania for goalkeepers, all of them seem to have play styles. Happy with the system I use since I'm getting 3-4 1m plus valued players every month. Got about 20 loaned youth players, about 7 or 8 can get onto my bench when they're back, so 1 more season for them and I can start integrating them into the first team
What ??? I wish they had LESS 😂. It's too much to scout. You've got too many nations to scout. There are 1000 times more nations than you're aloud to have scouts anyways.
Adding a few things. 1-don’t always reject 15yr olds with a mediocre overall and a not a crazy high potential. Keep ur scout on em an extra month or so and some of them will turn into little beasts. 2-these little 15 yr old beasts who now are in ur academy have an extra year to develop. Take a look at their attributes. For example if he’s a 5 foot 6 cm then you’d be better off a lm or rm, or if he’s a LS and you use wingers , convert him into a winger. That takes me to 3- get then trained in a couple positions but don’t stop there! For example if he’s a rwb then train him a spell at inverted, then attacking wing back, then support. If you’ve got great coaches you’ll get thier overall way up by doing this and Obvuisly if u get him at 15 , the longer you’ll have to do this. 4- develop and sell the kids that don’t fit into ur system. It’s career mode, it’s ur job to generate money for the club.
Sultan I have a question if I have have a a bunch of 16 and 17 year olds in my academy with 90 plud max potential should I promote them and start loaning them out or keep them in my youth academy
Keep the 16 yr olds in the acad, promote and loan out the 17yr olds, but only loan them on two year loan to buy deals, just call them back before the loan expires and only loan them to small clubs so they’ll be more likely to get minutes. Also keep the pick of the litter per se for ur subs bench and use him off the bench and in those kinda tier 2 matches. I’ve got a 79 rated winger at 17 yrs old atm who was a 73 at the start of the season. Because I’m plating him and he’s getting a good match rating. Have fun man! Hopefully 25 is as fun.
We all have that one player who was a legend for us who we brought through the youth academy. Mine was Jay Kent a Scottish RW who had a full beard at 17 and a mullet ahahaha
@@tomthackery2435 My Biggest player was a french striker in FIFA 14. I knew nothing about the youth system back then, I brought him out just for the fun of it at overall 40. He then later became a 82 overall, 6"2, physically strong (strength was 94 I reckon) with speed above 80. I think I was scoring 60+ goals with him in each season. Pujol was such a beast! Later when I knew about the mechanics I brought out better overall players in high 80s (one even got 90 if I remember correctly), but by far he was my favourite.
Haven’t played 24 much yet. But setting up for my next content cm in the first month with a 5* 5* I got four CBs: 50 ovr 71-94 pot, 64 over 69-94 pot, 61 over 69-94 pot, and 53ovr 67-93 pot (all from Norway). Have never gotten a single month like that before in any fifa
I'm doing a youth academy career, modeled after Cutzy and SparringDK's annual youth careers, with Grimsby town. The last month of my first season, I got 5 or 6 players just like that. 60+ OVR with 70ish-94 potential. It was insane
@jcshades3 I want to say I had one scout in Brazil, one in the Ivory Coast, and one in Germany. But I might have one of those wrong. I only send my scouts out for 3 months at a time, so I scout a lot of countries every season
@@jcshades3 exactly. I like trying to get starter quality players from every continent if possible. But I'm thinking about doing a cm where I'm not allowed to scout the normal talent filled countries. So no Argentina, Brazil, Italy, England, Germany, Netherlands, Spain, Portugal, or France.
I usually scout youth players in Scandinavia - Denmark, Iceland, Sweden and Norway. I always get a lot amazing players with the potential of 89-94 in this region. Haven't been too successfull in Africa for some reason. I also get some great youth players from USA though.
That's interesting. I try and scout USA on most saves because it feels realistic no matter what country you're in, but not even once have I found anyone worth signing
I have found so much success with loans this year, growth of 3-5 in my team but 10-15 and even more when sent on loan. I sent some of my starting players on loan for half a season and saw a 7 overall growth
@@lun2c01 I have sent out players of 17-23 and I tend to see immediate growth on certain players. Like 2 months after being sent and they have already jumped 8+ overall but it seems hit and miss some grow quick others don’t, you could potentially recall any who aren’t growing and send a new loan
You mentioned in the video that you think loans can increase overall more than game time and morale combined, but that it's a little inconsistent. Here's how I believe it works, which might help explain some of the inconsistency. I believe that there is a natural arc to a players overall that has them achieving certain benchmarks by certain ages, eventually peaking at their max potential. If a player has a potential of 94, then at age 17 they should be at X OVR, at age 18 they should be at Y OVR, at age 19 they should be at Z OVR, etc... If it helps, I like to think of it the same way we talk about child development, where there's an expected "reading level" for students of each grade. But for a few different reasons, sometimes a player isn't where they should be on that arc. The two most common ones are injury (which not only stops development, but puts it in reverse) and low Youth Academy starting numbers. A lot of YA players (I would argue most) have OVR numbers that are significantly below the expected "reading level" they're supposed to have obtained by their current age. Regardless of their potential, they will never catch up, because like you said, all the game time, morale, and coaches can only do so much in a single year. Loans put players back on track. It's not that some players randomly get a huge +12 OVR boost and others randomly get a +2; it's that the game just puts them where they're supposed to be on the curve. In a recent save, I wound up with a bunch of YA left backs who all had similar potential and were the same age. One of them was a 63, a couple were 68, one was a 70. They all went out on loan, and they all came back at 71 OVR. Then I looked at the ST who had gone on loan - 71. And the CF who had gone on loan - 71. If you were 19 years old and you just finished a loan spell, you were 71 OVR. I mentioned injuries. I had a created player (so a potential of 99) who suffered serious injury after serious injury. He went from an 86 to an 83, and lost pretty much a full year of progression, plus the three points of regression. I sent him out for a loan and called him back immediately - 91. This put him right back in front of my other created player, who was slightly younger and had always been about half a point behind in development (until the injuries to the older player). My experience is purely anecdotal and I don't have data to back this up, but it's pretty easy to test, and I encourage you to do so if you're interested. I don't know if there is a cap (For example, I don't know if a created player at 30 OVR would still come back as a 91 after a loan), and I don't know how it handles players who are ahead of the expected curve (I somehow doubt that creating a 16-year-old with max stats and sending him on loan would result in a regressed player), but it wouldn't be too difficult to find out. It becomes slightly more complicated because of the "Loan Glitch", which alters potential, and thus will also alter the progression to reach that new potential. And I don't know if there are any other variables that I haven't considered. But the details aren't really important. The key takeaway is that loans aren't about speeding up development so much as about resetting a player to where they're supposed to be given their current age and potential. It's a catch-up mechanism. So my advice is to send every YA player out for a loan as soon as you get them, and also to loan out players who have missed several months due to injury (it's especially helpful if they're injured in the first half of the season and you can loan them in January, because you can undo the damage before their dynamic potential takes a hit). Get them set to where they're supposed to be, and then develop them from there.
In FIFA 23 many youth prospects I sent out on loan completely stagnated and didn't grow that much, others did, this goes against that theory. All my youth players had similarly high potential
@@roboticvenom1935 What were their starting points? By any chance, were the ones that stagnated higher ranked to start? Also, were any of them loaned out to teams in your current league?
@ferallemur I literally came across this guide while doing a search for this very question. I am playing an English Championship Team, and seem to have offers for my players from bigger or similar clubs (like Premier League clubs or ones not too dissimilar in stats though different national leagues) with enough players, when I am able to research the team (some teams don't have player listings with stats at all). All with players better than, or at least similar level and sometimes so many players in the role in question. Your guide was good but you never went into much details about which loans are good, what to look for, and what to avoid. Are you saying here not to take loan offers that may be from clubs that are bigger or similar? Or at least have decent enough players to make them surplus. Or does this matter? Also I note you mentioned about loans with offer to buy. Is there a reason to avoid those? Be good if you could make a video guide just for loans actually.
@@ferallemur their starting points were normally low to high 60's. Usually mid 60's. There didn't seem to be any correlation between higher OVR and less growth over my many saves You must not also forget that, plays potential changes from season to season. A Ayer with 94 potential can go down to a potential of 90, and from 90 to 87 over successive seasons as an example.
One thing that’s never discussed is the diminishing returns on scouting. You can not just keep scouting the the big 9 and get platinum players. What’s the best way to get around that if you are playing multiple (5-6+) seasons?
You should try rotating in smaller countries like for example Morocco, Algeria, Colombia, heck even India if you want (and yes i did actually find good youth academy players from those countries) so basically in the coutries that are in the cheaper continents to scout (cause yes the continents have a price for scouting there, and the ones that have the top 9 are the most expensive)
Rotation is the only option, just put scouts on smaller countries, i always get high value players in scandinavia, or the baltics (lithuania, estonia, latvia)
i love career mode but i cant do it without real faces, real stadium and at least 3 uniforms. SO even teams like Schalke and Hamburg are hard for me cuz they only have two kits.
My biggest pet peeve is every team only has one goalkeeper uniform. Kind of inconvenient when your goalkeeper's shirt clashes with both the home and away shirt of your opponent. I'll go one further. EVERY team in EVERY league in England (coz the Prem is the biggest league) should have home, away & alternate uniforms for outfield players AND goalkeepers and all fully licensed. Also every stadium in England too. Personally I'd like to see the 3 National league tiers in the game too. Also all fully licensed.
In my few hundreds of scoutings i've found really good players on average from Greece, i read on reddit that for the last couple of FIFA the % were smt along the lines of 9% Greece, 8% spain and germany, 7% switzerland, argentina, hungary, nigeria, south africa, 6% sweden, italy, england, france, and others. I think Finland is in the 8% cathegory. Brasil also has worked for strikers for me.
Loan out youth players are the best way to boost their OVR. I always set a 2 year loan contract to see how much they can boost on the first season. If they “fail”, i’ll just recall them back and sell for good money. 2-4 million for sure.
@@angelacosta5457 i’ll keep them until 17 and then loan out. But sometimes i let them “unsettled” which means at the age of 18 at least they got 67-69 ovr then promote to the first team.
I’m on a Man Utd save where I’m sending scouts on 3 month tours, taking 4 or 5 years to do a complete world tour tour. The biggest surprise so far is that Estonia has produced a 15 year old GK who’s 65 rated with platinum potential. On a previous Save, India produced players who were eventually good enough for Real Madrid and Inter Milan.
If you have a scout send one to Italy, you won’t regret it. I’m 99 percent sure they have the best odds to give you a good player of any position. I’ve done this over 3 saves, always works.
So for development, having good match ratings impact players growth right? Do you have any idea how the match rating system works on FC 24? Is there an algorithm to it? And what impacts it the most? Been on my mind some time lately
I personally haven't had a scout higher than 3/3 yet because in the old games the higher rated ones were too OP. I've been getting about 2-3 high value players a season with 2 and 3 star scouts.
It’s sort of cheating the system but if you desperately want to find a talent, just save the game the day before the next scout report comes in and if you aren’t satisfied - log out without saving, log back in and you’ll have a new batch of players each time you do this until you find talents you want. Depends how realistic you want it to be, or how desperately you need a star to come into your team.
For some reason, I always seem to find a 91-94 potential GK from the USA. I've also found very good Centre Backs in the USA too. My personal list for best places to look for various positions.... ST/CF - Norway / Spain CAM - Brazil/Argentina/England LW/RW - Mexico / Scotland / Japan CDM - England / Germany / USA RB/LB - Germany / Greece CB - Greece / Germany / USA GK - USA / France
I loaned out a youth player I didn’t know what to do with, 62 rated right winger , +13 he came back 75 rated and another player got a +9 as a left back, what makes players get that insane loan growth or is it random
I can't say this with 100% certainty, but I believe that it's tied to a player's form, so for example, say you had 63 overall 17 year year old striker who was played a ton the previous year, had high morale, was in excellent form and bagged tons of goals, if you loan him out at the start of next year, and then either recall them immediately or leave them for a few days and then they'll get the big overall bump, and if you were to loan a player out in September so that they leave in January, and then have them playing really well before they go on loan, they'll get a smaller version of this bump, usually 1-4 plus. If you also have a player that's been sitting in your youth academy for multiple seasons, and then you loan them out, they'll also get a bump as well. Like I said I can't say any of this with 100% certainty as I am not an EA dev, but I play tons of FIFA every year, and I specifically play youth squad only career mode saves and nothing else, so I've experienced this bug/exploit a lot, it's a very useful way to have a young player that's had a breakout season to get a big overall bump the next year, like they would in real life, thought I sincerely doubt EA intended it to work that way.
Can't say for certain about EA24, but I know from some previous FIFAs what I'd noticed was youth players loaned to a team in your league seemed to improve exponentially (if they already had high potential to begin with). I'm still testing this theory out in EA24. So far the few kids I've managed to loan within the same league seem to be following that trend.
I built an entire 90+ overall team with youth academy players from Lithuania Latvia and Moldova 😂 I feel like the algorithm for other leagues that compete during manager mode scout in countries that have leagues that compete on EA FC or countries that are more popular 2nd Loaning is practically the only way I've ever grown my youths potential another hack to maximize their game time while on loan is to give them a role in your team as an important team player so that they get that game time while on loan and keep loaning them till their overall reflects the standard of what your important 1st team players overalls are that way they stay happy get gametime and you build a juggernaut squad
I just started with Crawley are my scout is one star one star can you tell me what level of scout I should have in League 2 when I joined Crawley I only had one star one star is that good enough or should I be looking to improve it I'm trying to keep it as realistic as I can
In some previous versions of Fifa, people would occasionally find certain specific countries (unlikely ones) that produced a disproportionately larger percentage of high quality players at a certain position. In FIFA 22, for example (which is the version I'm still on), searching for wingers in Estonia consistently produces better results than anything I've seen anywhere else. Beyond the region suggestions you listed, are you aware of any random aberrations like that?
Hello, something caught my attention. What needs to be done in order for the players coming out of the infrastructure to have plus skills? There were no plus skills in the youth players I have released so far, so we can also call it plus perk?
Does anybody else get the same problem as me. Im desperate for a cm and a st. Everytime i scout for that specific postion the players i sign fit more in cam and winger. This happens for litteraly every single player i sign so i have a team with 10+ wingers and cams and 1 striker and 2 cm.
So question to anyone that knows. When u get a player on your scout report and scout them for 3 months and they stay in a 79-94. But once u sign them they drop like to a 79-85. How do u keep them up to stay closer to that 90 range?
You can’t, I don’t think. Sometimes they are out of position which you can correct by developing, that can boost a players value (I had some +10) but their potential decline remains unchanged as far as I’ve seen
One thing I’ve noticed…is sometimes depending on how good you’re player did if you loan out in January and recall them after saving they might come back +3 or more, same as at the beginning of the next season….when a player loses potential for example for no reason, I’ll send him on loan for example garnacho, recall him and his Value goes up a bit and potential as well….ive recalled a academy player and came back +7, changing positions sometimes will do this too…and even leaving a academy player on loan can increase 7+ for example…it’s a bit weird and inconsistent how it works so this video isn’t much help from what we already knew
@@trench_kid0788 try it…the most recent career mode I did was with Sevilla…I had a RB named Carmona I think…saw he was kinda slow, real face, decent stats overall….decided imma try him as a CAM…it took almost a whole season BUT…I was also playing him in like 75% of the games the whole season….by January his form was excellent and he was happy.. so I put him for loan…he went on loan for about 5 days and overall increased by 4…(this isn’t just a one time thing I’ve noticed) when I recalled him he I make sure his market value percentage goes up (this means his potential increased…sometimes his rating will increase even more when you recall….(it only works ONCE a transfer window with any play under 26 years old who is on excellent form playing a lot of games sent out on loan the next window and recalled) point is Carmona Idek what his potential was went from a 74 ish rated RB to a 85 rated CAM in about 2-3 seasons. I’ve noticed this aswell with Youth players it works the same but they can increase RAPIDLY you just have to basically START them and keep their game rating average high enough to be excellent or good form…then you can loan out and recall whenever you want…. ( I like to think of it as a career mode winter upgrade….its just you have to loan them and then recall for that updated rating….if Carmona for example has scored 30 goals by the time it’s January his form will be excellent, you loan him for maybe a week, maybe his rating increases while he’s on loan, if not as soon as you recall make sure his value % increases and his rating should increase.
In FIFA 23, I only use 1 star scout to limit the amount of pulls. The problem is that the free agent is litterally stacked with youngsters over 80 overall which makes the game very unrealistic. Is it similar in FIFA 24 ?
Hey, whenever I go to the scouting map, certain options like the entirety of Africa and Brazil are not visible. Is there any way I can make these places scoutable?
@@rondosty1eon the new patch, EA removed it. You need to promote them first to see their playstyle, and when they reach 80 overall rating, they might get playstyle+. But unfortunately, due to the glitch the only playstyle+ that youth academy players would get will be ChipShot. So, wait until Ea fixing it.
6:33 - hang on! How can a person, named Denis Dyakov be Russian? Dyakov is a Bulgarian surname! Not every name that ends at -ov is Russian! When will the people in the Western world understand the differences?
I think my favourite player scouted this year is a Romanian cb, started as a striker but basically, can do a job literally anywhere. I do wish search terms were better, finding a tall, strong striker or a quality CDM is so irritating compared to a halfway decent winger
It's too bad they can't be bothered to fix all the countries with broken name pools, it's been this way since FIFA 23. Go try to scout the Ukraine, every one is named Kovalenko, Shevchenko or Shevchuk, I know that the name pool for the Ukraine is small, but it's bigger than 3 names. the Netherlands, all of the Slavic countries and all of the arabic language countries are broken as well, with the Slavic and Dutch name pools being some 7 or 8 names each, and with the arabic name pools mixing first and surnames. People have been complaining on the bug report fourm for the past 2 years, and EA hasn't done a thing, it's really ruined career mode for me, as when you have a save and it's later on, it's crappy that all the generated players that have populated teams all seem to be related to each other.
This!! Totally ruins the experience for me with Icelandic Youth players and regens never having Icelandic names, but danish or Norwegian names all the time.
No point in youth academies. start of every new season loads for wonder kids are free agents Free transfers are the most important thing in career mode
I don't use the coach system because it's just too OP and makes CM far too easy (even not using it getting the boosts it's still very easy). Same with the training, it's just very gimmicky and isn't realistic at all
Anyone else feel like 24 has just got nothing in the youth scouting department. Like not only getting rid of the high potential player boost, but cannot seem to grt any decent youth players AT all
A couple FIFAs ago I got 3 80+ potential CBs from Hungary and Moldova along with 2 CDMs from New Zealand.. They were all 6'5/6'6 and had over 70 pace. It was impossible to score on them and they scored from a corner almost every game. They were so good I played a 3-2-1-4. That was a special save
Do you need to scout for physically strong
What did you scout
Argentina for playmakers.
Brazil for technical players.
Never failed me.
it did failed me
I try to keep it semi-realistic by only accepting players of a specific minimum value, the higher the division the higher the minimum value.
The way I keep it realistic is by signing youth scouts, rather than players with a specific rating, and the higher the league, the higher the rating can be.
I do something similar but if I do sign somebody with a lot of value, I try to sell them as soon as possible since a high potential 16 year old in ligue 2 would likely be snatched up quickly
i keep it realistic by accepting the good ones, lets be real any team that findas a good player is gonna get it and then sell it too a good team
I've gone to the Baltics and founds loads of wingers, attacking mids, goalies and midfielders. Lithuania for goalkeepers, all of them seem to have play styles. Happy with the system I use since I'm getting 3-4 1m plus valued players every month. Got about 20 loaned youth players, about 7 or 8 can get onto my bench when they're back, so 1 more season for them and I can start integrating them into the first team
I just wish they added more nations for us to scout
they just dont have the rights to those leagues which might be a problem because of the other FIFA games coming out
your wish came true, theyre adding like 160 nations in ea fc 25
What ??? I wish they had LESS 😂.
It's too much to scout. You've got too many nations to scout. There are 1000 times more nations than you're aloud to have scouts anyways.
Got a cm from Brazil who (when finally promoted to first team) was 93-94 potential. Had a couple of those this year toi
Im currently doing a youth academy Lecco Calcio rebuild, just started season 3 these two japanese wingers i got have been performing phenomenal
Miyachi, Mitoma & Kubo vibes 😁
I got RWB from China 🇨🇳 PR and he is very good!
@@5444067 china playmaker CM blessed me with a squad rotation player hes an 83 rn box to box type cm
@@Geografifa hey should I put my 90 plus max poteinals from my youth academy to my senior squad to loan out
Adding a few things. 1-don’t always reject 15yr olds with a mediocre overall and a not a crazy high potential. Keep ur scout on em an extra month or so and some of them will turn into little beasts. 2-these little 15 yr old beasts who now are in ur academy have an extra year to develop. Take a look at their attributes. For example if he’s a 5 foot 6 cm then you’d be better off a lm or rm, or if he’s a LS and you use wingers , convert him into a winger. That takes me to 3- get then trained in a couple positions but don’t stop there! For example if he’s a rwb then train him a spell at inverted, then attacking wing back, then support. If you’ve got great coaches you’ll get thier overall way up by doing this and Obvuisly if u get him at 15 , the longer you’ll have to do this. 4- develop and sell the kids that don’t fit into ur system. It’s career mode, it’s ur job to generate money for the club.
Sultan I have a question if I have have a a bunch of 16 and 17 year olds in my academy with 90 plud max potential should I promote them and start loaning them out or keep them in my youth academy
Keep the 16 yr olds in the acad, promote and loan out the 17yr olds, but only loan them on two year loan to buy deals, just call them back before the loan expires and only loan them to small clubs so they’ll be more likely to get minutes. Also keep the pick of the litter per se for ur subs bench and use him off the bench and in those kinda tier 2 matches. I’ve got a 79 rated winger at 17 yrs old atm who was a 73 at the start of the season. Because I’m plating him and he’s getting a good match rating. Have fun man! Hopefully 25 is as fun.
@@The__sultan hey I done an early. Promotion I saw a French lw I needed A lw btw so I promoted him cuz he had 90 to 99 potiential
Nice one!!! Train him to play both sides and get him minutes.
@The__sultan he came playing both sides getting him minutes instead of my roony barkhji
think i once had a CAM from the Czech Republic scouted with the Technically Gifted type in a FIFA 19 save that was one of the best players i ever had
We all have that one player who was a legend for us who we brought through the youth academy. Mine was Jay Kent a Scottish RW who had a full beard at 17 and a mullet ahahaha
@@tomthackery2435 My Biggest player was a french striker in FIFA 14. I knew nothing about the youth system back then, I brought him out just for the fun of it at overall 40. He then later became a 82 overall, 6"2, physically strong (strength was 94 I reckon) with speed above 80. I think I was scoring 60+ goals with him in each season. Pujol was such a beast!
Later when I knew about the mechanics I brought out better overall players in high 80s (one even got 90 if I remember correctly), but by far he was my favourite.
@@SuupaaSaiya-jin sounds like a new giroud
Haven’t played 24 much yet. But setting up for my next content cm in the first month with a 5* 5* I got four CBs: 50 ovr 71-94 pot, 64 over 69-94 pot, 61 over 69-94 pot, and 53ovr 67-93 pot (all from Norway). Have never gotten a single month like that before in any fifa
I'm doing a youth academy career, modeled after Cutzy and SparringDK's annual youth careers, with Grimsby town. The last month of my first season, I got 5 or 6 players just like that. 60+ OVR with 70ish-94 potential. It was insane
@@t1g3r2013 oh nice. What countries were you scouting? (Youth based career modes are really fun)
@jcshades3 I want to say I had one scout in Brazil, one in the Ivory Coast, and one in Germany. But I might have one of those wrong. I only send my scouts out for 3 months at a time, so I scout a lot of countries every season
@@t1g3r2013 I usually do the same. Try to get a variety
@@jcshades3 exactly. I like trying to get starter quality players from every continent if possible. But I'm thinking about doing a cm where I'm not allowed to scout the normal talent filled countries. So no Argentina, Brazil, Italy, England, Germany, Netherlands, Spain, Portugal, or France.
I usually scout youth players in Scandinavia - Denmark, Iceland, Sweden and Norway. I always get a lot amazing players with the potential of 89-94 in this region. Haven't been too successfull in Africa for some reason. I also get some great youth players from USA though.
what ‘position’ and ‘type’ do you usually use for them countries?
That's interesting. I try and scout USA on most saves because it feels realistic no matter what country you're in, but not even once have I found anyone worth signing
Had gems from all sorts of countries - India, South Africa, Canada, Peru, Latvia, Lithuania, New Zealand… just depends on your luck really I think
Iceland has dropped me a few gems, would be cool rebuilding the national team to while managing your club
@@billybobiiiI've find many American beasts on FC24. What roles are you scouting for,?
I have found so much success with loans this year, growth of 3-5 in my team but 10-15 and even more when sent on loan. I sent some of my starting players on loan for half a season and saw a 7 overall growth
How old are they when send out? At what overall?
@@lun2c01 I have sent out players of 17-23 and I tend to see immediate growth on certain players. Like 2 months after being sent and they have already jumped 8+ overall but it seems hit and miss some grow quick others don’t, you could potentially recall any who aren’t growing and send a new loan
You mentioned in the video that you think loans can increase overall more than game time and morale combined, but that it's a little inconsistent. Here's how I believe it works, which might help explain some of the inconsistency.
I believe that there is a natural arc to a players overall that has them achieving certain benchmarks by certain ages, eventually peaking at their max potential. If a player has a potential of 94, then at age 17 they should be at X OVR, at age 18 they should be at Y OVR, at age 19 they should be at Z OVR, etc... If it helps, I like to think of it the same way we talk about child development, where there's an expected "reading level" for students of each grade.
But for a few different reasons, sometimes a player isn't where they should be on that arc. The two most common ones are injury (which not only stops development, but puts it in reverse) and low Youth Academy starting numbers. A lot of YA players (I would argue most) have OVR numbers that are significantly below the expected "reading level" they're supposed to have obtained by their current age. Regardless of their potential, they will never catch up, because like you said, all the game time, morale, and coaches can only do so much in a single year.
Loans put players back on track. It's not that some players randomly get a huge +12 OVR boost and others randomly get a +2; it's that the game just puts them where they're supposed to be on the curve. In a recent save, I wound up with a bunch of YA left backs who all had similar potential and were the same age. One of them was a 63, a couple were 68, one was a 70. They all went out on loan, and they all came back at 71 OVR. Then I looked at the ST who had gone on loan - 71. And the CF who had gone on loan - 71. If you were 19 years old and you just finished a loan spell, you were 71 OVR.
I mentioned injuries. I had a created player (so a potential of 99) who suffered serious injury after serious injury. He went from an 86 to an 83, and lost pretty much a full year of progression, plus the three points of regression. I sent him out for a loan and called him back immediately - 91. This put him right back in front of my other created player, who was slightly younger and had always been about half a point behind in development (until the injuries to the older player).
My experience is purely anecdotal and I don't have data to back this up, but it's pretty easy to test, and I encourage you to do so if you're interested. I don't know if there is a cap (For example, I don't know if a created player at 30 OVR would still come back as a 91 after a loan), and I don't know how it handles players who are ahead of the expected curve (I somehow doubt that creating a 16-year-old with max stats and sending him on loan would result in a regressed player), but it wouldn't be too difficult to find out.
It becomes slightly more complicated because of the "Loan Glitch", which alters potential, and thus will also alter the progression to reach that new potential. And I don't know if there are any other variables that I haven't considered. But the details aren't really important. The key takeaway is that loans aren't about speeding up development so much as about resetting a player to where they're supposed to be given their current age and potential. It's a catch-up mechanism.
So my advice is to send every YA player out for a loan as soon as you get them, and also to loan out players who have missed several months due to injury (it's especially helpful if they're injured in the first half of the season and you can loan them in January, because you can undo the damage before their dynamic potential takes a hit). Get them set to where they're supposed to be, and then develop them from there.
In FIFA 23 many youth prospects I sent out on loan completely stagnated and didn't grow that much, others did, this goes against that theory. All my youth players had similarly high potential
@@roboticvenom1935 What were their starting points? By any chance, were the ones that stagnated higher ranked to start?
Also, were any of them loaned out to teams in your current league?
@ferallemur I literally came across this guide while doing a search for this very question. I am playing an English Championship Team, and seem to have offers for my players from bigger or similar clubs (like Premier League clubs or ones not too dissimilar in stats though different national leagues) with enough players, when I am able to research the team (some teams don't have player listings with stats at all). All with players better than, or at least similar level and sometimes so many players in the role in question. Your guide was good but you never went into much details about which loans are good, what to look for, and what to avoid.
Are you saying here not to take loan offers that may be from clubs that are bigger or similar? Or at least have decent enough players to make them surplus. Or does this matter? Also I note you mentioned about loans with offer to buy. Is there a reason to avoid those? Be good if you could make a video guide just for loans actually.
@@ferallemur their starting points were normally low to high 60's. Usually mid 60's. There didn't seem to be any correlation between higher OVR and less growth over my many saves
You must not also forget that, plays potential changes from season to season. A Ayer with 94 potential can go down to a potential of 90, and from 90 to 87 over successive seasons as an example.
What is dynamic potential
I love it that you play with Preußen Münster
One thing that’s never discussed is the diminishing returns on scouting. You can not just keep scouting the the big 9 and get platinum players. What’s the best way to get around that if you are playing multiple (5-6+) seasons?
Rotate,I found a 4 mil value player in turkey
You should try rotating in smaller countries like for example Morocco, Algeria, Colombia, heck even India if you want (and yes i did actually find good youth academy players from those countries) so basically in the coutries that are in the cheaper continents to scout (cause yes the continents have a price for scouting there, and the ones that have the top 9 are the most expensive)
@@frankf684I agree, I found 2 2 mil value players in Switzerland ON THE SAME TRIP
Rotation is the only option, just put scouts on smaller countries, i always get high value players in scandinavia, or the baltics (lithuania, estonia, latvia)
I had a striker from my youth academy with 94 potential he was 16 50 rated sent him on a 1 year loan came back 72 rated
i love career mode but i cant do it without real faces, real stadium and at least 3 uniforms. SO even teams like Schalke and Hamburg are hard for me cuz they only have two kits.
My biggest pet peeve is every team only has one goalkeeper uniform. Kind of inconvenient when your goalkeeper's shirt clashes with both the home and away shirt of your opponent. I'll go one further. EVERY team in EVERY league in England (coz the Prem is the biggest league) should have home, away & alternate uniforms for outfield players AND goalkeepers and all fully licensed. Also every stadium in England too. Personally I'd like to see the 3 National league tiers in the game too. Also all fully licensed.
In my few hundreds of scoutings i've found really good players on average from Greece, i read on reddit that for the last couple of FIFA the % were smt along the lines of 9% Greece, 8% spain and germany, 7% switzerland, argentina, hungary, nigeria, south africa, 6% sweden, italy, england, france, and others. I think Finland is in the 8% cathegory. Brasil also has worked for strikers for me.
Loan out youth players are the best way to boost their OVR. I always set a 2 year loan contract to see how much they can boost on the first season. If they “fail”, i’ll just recall them back and sell for good money. 2-4 million for sure.
Do you keep them in the academy or promote them to first team as soon as they turn 16?
@@angelacosta5457 i’ll keep them until 17 and then loan out. But sometimes i let them “unsettled” which means at the age of 18 at least they got 67-69 ovr then promote to the first team.
@@notsogood17if you loan them out, they won’t be getting a playstyle plus. That’s what I found out
Some in summary:
1. Morale
2. Loan, if you can’t promise consistent game time)
3. Right coaches
Yes?
I’m on a Man Utd save where I’m sending scouts on 3 month tours, taking 4 or 5 years to do a complete world tour tour. The biggest surprise so far is that Estonia has produced a 15 year old GK who’s 65 rated with platinum potential. On a previous Save, India produced players who were eventually good enough for Real Madrid and Inter Milan.
I don’t know what it is but in previous fifa I’ve found some amazing goalkeepers from Estonia
Same goes with Lithuania, I scouted i GK with 94 potential
found an absolute goat in egypt, 5 star 5 star, 93-94 potential cam
If you have a scout send one to Italy, you won’t regret it. I’m 99 percent sure they have the best odds to give you a good player of any position. I’ve done this over 3 saves, always works.
German goalkeeepers are insane if you have a 5 star judgement, I got 3 72 ovr gk
So for development, having good match ratings impact players growth right? Do you have any idea how the match rating system works on FC 24? Is there an algorithm to it? And what impacts it the most? Been on my mind some time lately
just loan them to a different league
@@maxhanney4277 At some point you use them on your team. That's where my question comes in.
At least on fifa 23 you can use 'sim to end' right after the match ends and that will give a better score to all players
@@ivanbrasla Is 'sim to end" available on EA FC 24?
@@MVTXyes
i didnt know the country mattered, ive only been scouting in asia for my entire new save...no wonder i have so many wingers
How do you get play style+ while still on low overall rating? 6:34
What do you think about the game ratings this year? It seems to me that it is way more difficult to obtain high ratings
I personally haven't had a scout higher than 3/3 yet because in the old games the higher rated ones were too OP. I've been getting about 2-3 high value players a season with 2 and 3 star scouts.
It’s sort of cheating the system but if you desperately want to find a talent, just save the game the day before the next scout report comes in and if you aren’t satisfied - log out without saving, log back in and you’ll have a new batch of players each time you do this until you find talents you want. Depends how realistic you want it to be, or how desperately you need a star to come into your team.
For some reason, I always seem to find a 91-94 potential GK from the USA. I've also found very good Centre Backs in the USA too.
My personal list for best places to look for various positions....
ST/CF - Norway / Spain
CAM - Brazil/Argentina/England
LW/RW - Mexico / Scotland / Japan
CDM - England / Germany / USA
RB/LB - Germany / Greece
CB - Greece / Germany / USA
GK - USA / France
What about CM's
@@Teodor206 I generally don't use CMs, but in the past, I've gotten lucky with CM from England. I'd try Argentina too.
@@KMartin1311 ok, thx
Marc Arias from my HSV save was my Uruguayan wonderkid
every video of yours is a journey worth taking!
No mentions on playstyle and PS + ?
I have two argentines (striker and winger) at 99 from my youth academy.
my first ever save i had a youth academy with all like 90+ potential and very tall, and i somehow got their potential down to a 79
In addition sharpness plays a big role when you send a player on loan. I have noticed that a full sharpness youngster can grow up to +11 on a loan.
is there any mods that allow you to scout in nations that aren’t already in the game like el salvador
Is there a way to view the potential range after a player has graduated from the youth academy?
How do I get playstyles + on youth players I never get that
During the first two weeks it seemed glitched, every youth player had one. After a patch I’ve only seen them with regular playstyles
App you only get + in ur 3rd season onwards
I loaned out a youth player I didn’t know what to do with, 62 rated right winger , +13 he came back 75 rated and another player got a +9 as a left back, what makes players get that insane loan growth or is it random
I can't say this with 100% certainty, but I believe that it's tied to a player's form, so for example, say you had 63 overall 17 year year old striker who was played a ton the previous year, had high morale, was in excellent form and bagged tons of goals, if you loan him out at the start of next year, and then either recall them immediately or leave them for a few days and then they'll get the big overall bump, and if you were to loan a player out in September so that they leave in January, and then have them playing really well before they go on loan, they'll get a smaller version of this bump, usually 1-4 plus. If you also have a player that's been sitting in your youth academy for multiple seasons, and then you loan them out, they'll also get a bump as well. Like I said I can't say any of this with 100% certainty as I am not an EA dev, but I play tons of FIFA every year, and I specifically play youth squad only career mode saves and nothing else, so I've experienced this bug/exploit a lot, it's a very useful way to have a young player that's had a breakout season to get a big overall bump the next year, like they would in real life, thought I sincerely doubt EA intended it to work that way.
Can't say for certain about EA24, but I know from some previous FIFAs what I'd noticed was youth players loaned to a team in your league seemed to improve exponentially (if they already had high potential to begin with). I'm still testing this theory out in EA24. So far the few kids I've managed to loan within the same league seem to be following that trend.
How do you get your goalkeeper to move,I press button y but nothing happens makes a mockery of matches
Maybe check your controlls ?
In my experience in FC24, the best goalkeepers are in Italy, they also have very good centre backs and Spain too, centre backs i mean.
8:00 never a yellow!
Gets the ball first doesn't he?
How do you scout Brazil? I thought only Argentina was available in South America? (Although it gives you other nationalities in there as well).
I’ve found some of my best young defenders in Germany. Every month or 2 I get one worth at least 1 million
I built an entire 90+ overall team with youth academy players from Lithuania Latvia and Moldova 😂 I feel like the algorithm for other leagues that compete during manager mode scout in countries that have leagues that compete on EA FC or countries that are more popular 2nd Loaning is practically the only way I've ever grown my youths potential another hack to maximize their game time while on loan is to give them a role in your team as an important team player so that they get that game time while on loan and keep loaning them till their overall reflects the standard of what your important 1st team players overalls are that way they stay happy get gametime and you build a juggernaut squad
I just started with Crawley are my scout is one star one star can you tell me what level of scout I should have in League 2 when I joined Crawley I only had one star one star is that good enough or should I be looking to improve it I'm trying to keep it as realistic as I can
Found a Japanese ST with 90-94 potential he’s only 15 and is currently rated 60
Can we get random a playstyle+ from youth academy?
In some previous versions of Fifa, people would occasionally find certain specific countries (unlikely ones) that produced a disproportionately larger percentage of high quality players at a certain position. In FIFA 22, for example (which is the version I'm still on), searching for wingers in Estonia consistently produces better results than anything I've seen anywhere else. Beyond the region suggestions you listed, are you aware of any random aberrations like that?
I have found so so many insane attacking midfielders (CAMs) from Switzerland, maybe I have just got good luck or Swiss cams are the new thing of FC24
eastern european CAM/CF, slovakia, czech republic, hungary, poland etc
Hello, something caught my attention. What needs to be done in order for the players coming out of the infrastructure to have plus skills? There were no plus skills in the youth players I have released so far, so we can also call it plus perk?
Does anybody else get the same problem as me. Im desperate for a cm and a st. Everytime i scout for that specific postion the players i sign fit more in cam and winger. This happens for litteraly every single player i sign so i have a team with 10+ wingers and cams and 1 striker and 2 cm.
Please what’s your camera settings 🙏🙏
How much game time should they get if you don’t want to loan them?
what did you mean by, youth players averaging under 6 out of 10 in every match. Is that their match / game ratings.
Can you get plus playstyles? I haven't seen one from a developed player
Ya I have a RM with aerial plus and a CF with chipshot plus
Germany is also extremely well for goalkeepers
So question to anyone that knows. When u get a player on your scout report and scout them for 3 months and they stay in a 79-94. But once u sign them they drop like to a 79-85. How do u keep them up to stay closer to that 90 range?
You can’t, I don’t think. Sometimes they are out of position which you can correct by developing, that can boost a players value (I had some +10) but their potential decline remains unchanged as far as I’ve seen
How are you getting 17 year olds with play style +
I found Pablo Escobar in scouting every single time frome fifa 18-21😂😂😂 ridiculous good
One thing I’ve noticed…is sometimes depending on how good you’re player did if you loan out in January and recall them after saving they might come back +3 or more, same as at the beginning of the next season….when a player loses potential for example for no reason, I’ll send him on loan for example garnacho, recall him and his Value goes up a bit and potential as well….ive recalled a academy player and came back +7, changing positions sometimes will do this too…and even leaving a academy player on loan can increase 7+ for example…it’s a bit weird and inconsistent how it works so this video isn’t much help from what we already knew
Explain more
@@trench_kid0788 try it…the most recent career mode I did was with Sevilla…I had a RB named Carmona I think…saw he was kinda slow, real face, decent stats overall….decided imma try him as a CAM…it took almost a whole season BUT…I was also playing him in like 75% of the games the whole season….by January his form was excellent and he was happy.. so I put him for loan…he went on loan for about 5 days and overall increased by 4…(this isn’t just a one time thing I’ve noticed) when I recalled him he I make sure his market value percentage goes up (this means his potential increased…sometimes his rating will increase even more when you recall….(it only works ONCE a transfer window with any play under 26 years old who is on excellent form playing a lot of games sent out on loan the next window and recalled) point is Carmona Idek what his potential was went from a 74 ish rated RB to a 85 rated CAM in about 2-3 seasons. I’ve noticed this aswell with Youth players it works the same but they can increase RAPIDLY you just have to basically START them and keep their game rating average high enough to be excellent or good form…then you can loan out and recall whenever you want…. ( I like to think of it as a career mode winter upgrade….its just you have to loan them and then recall for that updated rating….if Carmona for example has scored 30 goals by the time it’s January his form will be excellent, you loan him for maybe a week, maybe his rating increases while he’s on loan, if not as soon as you recall make sure his value % increases and his rating should increase.
Quick Question how do you have Bruiser + while all of my players keep getting chip shot +?
Thanks for the video, super clear 👌👌👌👌
How to do successful stick plays in Player career?
"ur Plat Winger could b RW or LW" yeh dat makes sense
In FIFA 23, I only use 1 star scout to limit the amount of pulls. The problem is that the free agent is litterally stacked with youngsters over 80 overall which makes the game very unrealistic. Is it similar in FIFA 24 ?
those are regens and you will see them in every game
Hey, whenever I go to the scouting map, certain options like the entirety of Africa and Brazil are not visible. Is there any way I can make these places scoutable?
Sorry one month late but i think you can only scout africa and brazil using youth scouts
Hope this helps ✌️
How tf do you get playstyle + on career mode I never got one
Nice Video thanks. Can you do a Video about Traits in Career Mode?
Hi, bro how did you see the playstyles when your players in youth academy? I can't!
i plays on PC
@@rondosty1eon the new patch, EA removed it. You need to promote them first to see their playstyle, and when they reach 80 overall rating, they might get playstyle+. But unfortunately, due to the glitch the only playstyle+ that youth academy players would get will be ChipShot. So, wait until Ea fixing it.
Is there a limit to how many you can loan? I’ve been getting so many rejected loans.
Your squad is probably low then
@@davidberumen3701 yeah thanks. I didn’t have enough players on the squad
6:33 - hang on! How can a person, named Denis Dyakov be Russian? Dyakov is a Bulgarian surname! Not every name that ends at -ov is Russian! When will the people in the Western world understand the differences?
Ok so if I would find:
LB/RB
and
LWB/RWB,
where should I look?
Sounds crazy but I found one in Venezuela
Central Europe. My current polish defence is fully 90 rated and only 21 y/o
brazil for goalkeeper, czech republic, hungary, croatia for the rest. france, england, netherlands, spain
always fail me :(
Question: Is the quality of players increased if you choose to set your objectives to very high or critical for youth development?
I like career mode but having to do all this research and actually playing a save feels like such a chore : /
Brazil for attackers( found a guy who developed into a 97 at the age of 22)
From my experience Germany is good for GKs
For me Germany, USA and Brazil yielded the best results when it came to finding Quality Youth Academy GKs
I think my favourite player scouted this year is a Romanian cb, started as a striker but basically, can do a job literally anywhere. I do wish search terms were better, finding a tall, strong striker or a quality CDM is so irritating compared to a halfway decent winger
Idk how but last year someone in my youth team had 92-94 potential only happened once tho
That player from the thumbnail looks exactly like S2Gs Dave Rooney
What about good goalscorers
what are your sliders tho?
It's too bad they can't be bothered to fix all the countries with broken name pools, it's been this way since FIFA 23. Go try to scout the Ukraine, every one is named Kovalenko, Shevchenko or Shevchuk, I know that the name pool for the Ukraine is small, but it's bigger than 3 names. the Netherlands, all of the Slavic countries and all of the arabic language countries are broken as well, with the Slavic and Dutch name pools being some 7 or 8 names each, and with the arabic name pools mixing first and surnames. People have been complaining on the bug report fourm for the past 2 years, and EA hasn't done a thing, it's really ruined career mode for me, as when you have a save and it's later on, it's crappy that all the generated players that have populated teams all seem to be related to each other.
yep Austria & Poland is terrible for this too, I've had an entire academy of only Hintermaiers & Kaczmareks in the past
@@GeografifaDe Angelis in Italy
I wish EA could do something about this. It isn't that difficult to do at all
@@matafaka2060 oh they can, they just don't, because they only care about UT
This!! Totally ruins the experience for me with Icelandic Youth players and regens never having Icelandic names, but danish or Norwegian names all the time.
I’ve found Spain has the best defenders
No point in youth academies. start of every new season loads for wonder kids are free agents
Free transfers are the most important thing in career mode
thank you men good tutotirel
In FIFA23 I always get OP keepers from austria
Same
it doesn't matter what country you scout
Paraguay are good for wingers and cam
update for fc25
I don't use the coach system because it's just too OP and makes CM far too easy (even not using it getting the boosts it's still very easy). Same with the training, it's just very gimmicky and isn't realistic at all
Quality centet backs and full backs go to italy ❤
There is no brazil for me
Thanks
Anyone else feel like 24 has just got nothing in the youth scouting department. Like not only getting rid of the high potential player boost, but cannot seem to grt any decent youth players AT all
I hav get gud talangs from Slovenien
i never got a platinum player
sometimes a bronze star can be good
I ignore potential, i just sign players over 500k value and then play em, see how good they are, sorta "realistic" if you will
Pretty easy to get OP players. Just buy pretty cheap 5 star scouts. EA don’t care