1 Corinthians 11 | Jeremy Marrone (2019)

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  • @teewizdom
    @teewizdom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pure Follishness!

    • @lionkj12
      @lionkj12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ...what is?

    • @garethifan1034
      @garethifan1034 ปีที่แล้ว

      Considering the teaching of scripture is never wasted time, much less foolishness. 'The fool says in his heart, there is no God..'

  • @barstowdave
    @barstowdave 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good job on this difficult passage.

  • @monicapelayo3188
    @monicapelayo3188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love how In depth u get

  • @MissLaTina7747
    @MissLaTina7747 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amen

  • @mahmadraoufbahadoor4439
    @mahmadraoufbahadoor4439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1 CORINTHIANS
    CHAPTER 11
    VERSE 5 TO 6
    VERSE 5 : " BUT EVERY WOMAN WHO PRAYS OR PROPHESIED WITH HER HEAD UNCOVERED DISHONORS HER HEAD _ IT IS THE SAME AS HAVING HER HEAD SHAVED .'
    VERSE 6 : " FOR IF A WOMAN DOES NOT COVER HER HEAD , SHE MIGHT AS WELL HAVE HER HAIR CUT OFF , BUT IF IT IS A DISGRACE FOR A WOMAN TO HAVE HER HAIR CUT OFF OR HER HEAD SHAVED , THEN SHE SHOULD COVER HER HEAD . '

    • @Kevin-lw2gl
      @Kevin-lw2gl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1 Corinthians 11:14 "Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him,"
      So was Samson a disgraceful man? Maybe was Paul wrong? Do we throw away all depictions of Jesus with long hair? Or maybe the sexual culture in Corinth was the reason Paul says in verse 16 "If anyone is inclined to be contentious, we have no such practice, nor do the churches of God."
      Always read into context and not just read parts of the Bible.

  • @akumel1987
    @akumel1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was carefully listening the teaching. Big introduction until we get to point. 10:50 Christ came from God. Christ is God. Thats not locically understandable. This verse is like big chalange. Speaker or the teacher went too boldly on the verse. I am locical thinker. If Paul is saying that Christ is not God but came from God how you next asumtion is Christ is God? Next time use sentence BECAUSE. First part was written the second part was asumtion - so it need to be explained.
    Nice body language also. Its advious that the speaker is confused himself. So he quickly skip that.

    • @lionkj12
      @lionkj12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I noticed he paused there, too. However, I think it was because he was trying to stay on topic. If he'd taken time to explain how Christ is God it would have taken a lot of time out of his message. The truth is Jesus is the Christ sent from God the Father, and became a human to die for the sins of humanity. Jesus wasn't created, and has always been with his Father and the Holy Spirit. Together, they are the God who has always been and will always be.

  • @houseofmorale6937
    @houseofmorale6937 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤👍❤

  • @shellystone3211
    @shellystone3211 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul tells you right there in the verse that we don’t have any head covering customs in our church are you blind

    • @lionkj12
      @lionkj12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not really, in verse 16 Paul says if you want to be a church who preaches against head coverings and created order, then you're the odd ball out. The weirdo.

    • @shellystone3211
      @shellystone3211 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry which scripture are you referring to that is a good example of head covering?

    • @lionkj12
      @lionkj12 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shellystone3211 the vs 8 and 9 that you referenced. 8, men and 9 women. Like minded is that both may pray without ceasing, lifting up holy hands without wrath. Differences in the two are the women's appearance, head covering.

    • @shellystone3211
      @shellystone3211 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look at that verse eight and nine that you were talking about (there is no head covering) the reason Paul was discussing how to wear your hair is because that pagan women decorated their hair in accordance with female goddesses of their towns This version tell you very plainly that the head is not covered

    • @shellystone3211
      @shellystone3211 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look at that verse eight and nine that you were talking about (there is no head covering) the reason Paul was discussing how to wear your hair is because that pagan women decorated their hair in accordance with female goddesses of their towns This version tell you very plainly that the head is not covered

  • @onuegbuemmanuel5176
    @onuegbuemmanuel5176 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A woman choses to submit or choses to rebel. That is the power she has to help/ empower her husband through submission. Thus she should use the power positively as holy Angels carry petitions of women who cover their hair faster. Whereas evil angels see uncovered hair as spiritual flirting and lust or even spiritually marry or try to bond to such women. Since they think a rebellious woman is of their kind and they have the astral right to be married to such women. Uncovered hair in women attracts negativity but covered hair attracts favour, blessings and makes you easily heard by holy angels and facilitates God's work through such women.

  • @shellystone3211
    @shellystone3211 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seriously you need to start with chapter 1 Paul is writing to this church because there are divisions and many many problems in the church he’s not commending them and praising him you’re incorrect
    1 Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,
    2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
    3 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
    4 I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ;
    5 That in every thing ye are enriched by him, in all utterance, and in all knowledge;
    6 Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you:
    7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
    8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
    9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.
    10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
    11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
    Do you know what contentious means it means argumentative paul is saying if any of you want to argue about this issue go ahead but we have no such custom in our churches
    16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

  • @shellystone3211
    @shellystone3211 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1st Corinthians 16. But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.
    Can you all read English Paul says you can argue all you want about hand coverings but we don’t do that in our church

    • @lionkj12
      @lionkj12 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't see where he says that. He in fact is writing to the church to commend them on their keeping with the traditions he gave them.....What is your beef with this passage?

    • @shellystone3211
      @shellystone3211 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seriously you need to start with chapter 1 Paul is writing to this church because there are divisions and many many problems in the church he’s not commending them and praising him you’re incorrect
      1 Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,
      2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
      3 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
      4 I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ;
      5 That in every thing ye are enriched by him, in all utterance, and in all knowledge;
      6 Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you:
      7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
      8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
      9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.
      10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
      11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
      Do you know what contentious means it means argumentative paul is saying if any of you want to argue about this issue go ahead but we have no such custom in our churches
      16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

    • @lionkj12
      @lionkj12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shellystone3211 my version of v16 says...we have no other practice. Yes, he is writing the church to correct what they are getting wrong, and he is giving the reason behind the tradition. V4-6 Paul is teaching head covering. The why to do it is in v7-12. V13-16 Paul reveals that nature testifies to the preceding verses. Nature confirms head covering. - v16 BUT if YOU are contentious, with both Paul and nature, question if you are of the churches of God.
      Does this passage offend you? Just curious, really.

    • @lionkj12
      @lionkj12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you know what I mean? In v2, Paul is commending them. I appreciate your respect for Paul, some people disagree with Paul which is just immature rebelliousness. When you read the passage and let him talk, he is teaching a new church with new believers to a new faith how to stand out as worshipping the Most High God. Pagans worshipped gods they could manipulate and worshipped to please themselves. God requires order. Just as there are natural laws like gravity, God desires his children to submit to his authority. Teaching head coverings was very important then, and would be beneficial now, too. Where scripture is clear, God looks at our behavior. Where scripture is obscure, God looks at our hearts. Hope this helps.

    • @shellystone3211
      @shellystone3211 ปีที่แล้ว

      8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.
      9 In like manner also, (PRAYING). that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
      Like manner: praying head not covered

  • @shellystone3211
    @shellystone3211 ปีที่แล้ว

    Read 1 Timothy chapter 2
    8 I will therefore that men PRAY pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.
    9 In like manner also (PRAYING). , that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
    Like manner: praying head not covered
    1st Corinthians chapter 11:15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
    Heres your answer (Her covering is her hair). otherwise Paul wouldn’t have wrote in other parts of the Bible about how to (wear your hair) and not to braid your hair with gold like the pagans do…..he instructs women how to wear hair not a head covering
    16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God

  • @shellystone3211
    @shellystone3211 ปีที่แล้ว

    1st Cor chap 11.
    1. Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. 2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you…….
    He is not praising them the word means encourage you to keep what you were taught? They have problems. Look at verse 17 I praise you NOT
    Verse 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God….. Paul re-teaching them order of creation.
    4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. Obviously men were covering their head right???????which means he’s talking to mostly Jewish converts in this church because Jewish men covered their head
    5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
    Paul is addressing a Jewish belief that if a Jewish woman’s head is not covered ….we will shave your head…..it’s also a Muslim belief today they get punished and their head get shaved
    6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
    Again stating current Jewish belief this was a real active Jewish practice in that time
    7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
    Again why would he be teaching for a man not to cover his head unless men were covering their head?????again talking to Jewish converts used to covering their heads
    8 For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.
    Now he’s saying that women came out of man so….if man should not cover his head why should a women cover if man is her HEAD.
    9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
    Again the order of creation Eve was created as a companion and joint heir given joint authority to rule in the book of Genesis by God. Genesis 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created………they shared the same name. Eves name from God was Adam.
    Eve was not named Eve by Adam until after the fall. Because Paul goes back to the book of Genesis to order of creation and the way it was before the fall…he is teaching that Jesus undid everything After the fall for both men and women…. Paul is teaching equality here that God gave to Adam and Eve to rule jointly as one flesh and one head together. That’s why the man is the head and why man and woman become 1 flesh and why a man leaves his parents And clings to his wife.
    The curses that were placed in the book of Genesis Where it says that the husband will rule over the wife no longer apply… because Jesus has set both men and women free there is no male or female in Christ….it is now back to the way that it was when God Created Adam and Eve and gave them joint dominion. People that misunderstand all of what Jesus did and some pastors included that still are trying to punish women today as if they were Eve… this is a satanic belief and practice.
    10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
    What an odd statement what angels? The Angels in Genesis 6 the Fallen angels and men Paul is referring to those who took as many wife’s as they wanted and abused women, Gods daughters because they were beautiful. God flooded the world did you not read Genesis 6? Punished for taking more than 1 wife.
    so Paul is saying that a woman has the choice to cover her head if it makes her feel safer she has the power to choose. Also understand something this word was never VEIL it was changed from power to veil by Valentius by a church father who was kicked out of the church… and later brought back by Teritillian another church father known as a woman abuser…he left the church to be a Montanist under the false religion Montanism. Women did not have cover their head in the Christian churches in the first century.
    11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord……….Paul Reemphasizes that joint authority in this statement that in Jesus Christ the redeemer of the sin after the fall turning everything back to the original order of creation….makes Man and woman today joint heirs… with one body and one head for a husband and wife… a unmarried woman her head is Jesus Christ.
    12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God….Paul is specifying equality under Jesus Christ and God for both male and female
    13 Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? He’s says JUDGE?
    14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
    15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
    Heres your answer (Her covering is her hair). otherwise Paul wouldn’t have wrote in other parts of the Bible about how to (wear your hair) and not to braid your hair with gold like the pagans do…..he instructs women how to wear hair not a head covering
    16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.
    Paul is clearly saying if anyone wants to argue about this go ahead but we don’t have any custom about covering our heads in church
    17 Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse…..paul is doing the opposite of praising he is saying you’re coming together for the worse you’re not doing so good
    18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. Paul is saying this church is divided on issues that’s why he was saying we don’t have any customs Of head covering

  • @shellystone3211
    @shellystone3211 ปีที่แล้ว

    No it doesn’t offend me I am a Christian 60 years old no denomination and what the Bible says is what the Bible says
    Sorry that you have a version that says something else I use the king James Bible which matches most often the closest to the Greek scrolls I have read this in Greek I have researched this in Greek and it says as is printed in the king James We have no such practice not other practice…..just that one word other can give you a whole different view of what Paul is trying to say.
    τοιοῦτος,rd \{toy-oo'-tos}
    1) such as this, of this kind or sort
    This should clear it up for you it is not other custom it is we have no such custom of this kind.
    I do not do research lightly as my actual profession was a research analyst and I am grateful for that experience as I’ve read my Bible over the years in fact check things I’ve also read early church documents where they did not cover their head in Church nor are there any mention of it until the second century With a couple of church early church fathers who were abusing women and were tossed out of the church one left voluntarily enjoyed a movement called Montanism.
    You must do your research and not just believe what you’re told by whatever religion you belong to did Jesus tell women to cover their head? Did he mention it? a woman washed his feet with her hair.
    There is no reason for a woman to cover her head I ask you what reason do you think there is that a woman would need to cover her head? God did not make Eve a head covering apparently Sara often did not cover her head otherwise Abraham would not have told her when someone sees how beautiful you Tell them that you are my sister Not my wife for he was afraid that they would kill him to take his beautiful wife. if Sara was all covered up which would’ve solved the problem, Abraham would not have had to worry about that But he let his wife decide if she wanted to cover herself up. It was not a command of God nor has it ever been nor will it ever be.
    And lastly Jesus summed this all up he said whatever man looks at a woman and lust after her he has committed adultery Jesus blamed the man he did not say that the woman needed to cover herself up.