I hate how the pet has a very slow and limited pick ip radius, my build allows me to zip and kill the NMD boss in 1-2mins but I spend more time picking up loot.
yeah pet is slow af, and also the large pickup radius we got in S5 has been reverted unfortunately. Picking up stuff definetly slowing down a bit, but still working alright.
you just need to walk to get obducite etc, leave rest loot on floor like runes or gear or boss items. youget them delivered later. you can spam 50 dungeons before u have to sort them
This is very good information thank you! I will say that you are using arguably the best speedfarming build in the game (teleport lightning sorc) so if someone doesn't want to run that for these runs the mileage will be quite a lot lower. If we remove the event stuff, and you use a build that can't zip through the map at blinding speed, you are going to probably be better off in hordes/tribute of refinements. That said - this shows what's totally possible if you're willing to build that sorc!
I’ve been crafting nmd keys and completing the ones that are whispers to get caches as well.. it is a bit pricey on your abstruse sigils however if you save several different dungeons in your stash you can run them when available. Honestly it’s a pretty fun and efficient way of obtaining nearly everything you could possibly need. The goblins and butchers give it a little bit of zest as well 👏
One NMD QOL feature we need- if nmd is one of the whisper quests, AND you have a key to this nmd in inventory, there should be an extra indicator on map to indicate this fact. Same for the nmd keys in inventory(and stash) should have itself an extra icon showing this dungeon is in nmd whisper rotation . Also like to see, maybe, fragment sink allowing us to spend fragments and lots of dust to guarantee craft nmd key that is for a whisper dungeon
I always try do do like a alot of activities, to keep the loop fun. Else I burn out, do NM dungeons until xp wel. Tthen do pits, realmwalker, undercity, bossrun with full group of friends. complete some bounties for the tree, world boss.. etc.
main problem is all events same and so boring. only infernal hordes meditative. nmd and pit designs very bad. wrong turns and walls everywhere so cant do smoothly. realmwalker is nonesense some sponge walks and so many people kill brainless npc for 2 minutes for what? pit only gives little gear and glyph level. what after you level 100 your build? helltides just for farm especially after good build there is no challenge or fun on it just run there and wait near raven. this game needs good end game event like poe delve or atlas!
YEP, this is my go to when I don’t have refinement tributes. Who wants to stand in the same room for 8-10 waves for 10min no thanks! I HATE horde so much! Anyone who genuinely likes doing horde is a psychopath‼️
What i dont understand, and maybe its just my view point on things and how I play which I acknowledge. But why are people so obsessed with making X amount in Y time. For me i dont mind if I only get 2.5 k obdacite for a 5-10 minute activity. Im playing the game to relax, not to pressure myself with "Productivity standards". Just enjoy the game. Enjoy the journey and the build. Why does it have to be done so quick all the time for people? (Just my opinion and I know people will hate for it but I wanted it out there, relax and enjoy folks) ❤
cuz so many people min maxing their build and they need gold or mats for that with limited play time they have. so they need farm efficently and after that buy/loot items etc.
it takes very long to open that room and is very inefficient. Not worth it in the end, you can basically finish a half dungeon in the time you take to unlock that room.
@@GoldfarmingGuide i mean half of them are either collect anima from elites youre already killing or literally just click a body for a key, idk how that's inefficient when playing a 0 cd tele build.
@@tflydr it basically takes FOREVER to do it. The new nightmare dungeons are absolutely horrible. Also finishing the dungeon is basically just telporting through zero mob densits, so really the chest room would have to reword rougly 750k to be worth doing.
did some dungeons today felt ok but ... 50% of the shrines i got were conduits... cant they please just remove theees fuckers from the game... whats the point klicking them to spawn a goblin or butcher if you cant kill them for the next 20 or so seconds...
NMD is still the most boring in the game for me. And for farming obdocit the pet is way to slow. Thats the reason why i prefer hordes and undercity because all u need just drops at the end 👌. From my point of view NMD are still useless.
well worked out great for me :D you will not even remotely make 25k/hour in infernal hordes, and again it's obv. personal preference, but for me after playing 1 season of infernal hordes it was super refreshing for me.
If people want to say Horde is better than NM dungeons for rewards then fine. I can’t understand why people think NM dungeons are more “boring” though? Hordes puts you in the same round room all the time and just pushes waves of enemies at you. Efficient, yeah, but how is it not the most boring thing in the game??? I can’t stand it.
I like to rotate between Pits, Hordes, NMD and Helltides to keep things refresh. I'll also throw Undercity into the mix from time to time. I just came across a few ascendant tributes so curious to see if I get any mythics from them.
I'd rather run NMD for everything especially glyphs rather then run those garbage Pits were r forced to run smh... I can't stand that they changed glyphs to the damn pits so annoying.
After i watch it i can confirm, atleast for the time of the event around 1200 with not so geared sors xD... The bad part is that the event wont w8t me till next weekend xD
Here in bulgaria we have a way to write with english letters but we use some numbers for the the missing ones xD so its more like a habbit, and my english writing is not so good
@@GoldfarmingGuide Of course the event is mandatory... At 13:12 you show you got 13 butchers each would have given 250 Obducite each meaning 3250 Obducite of your total at the end...event ends in less than 48 hours meaning all goblins and burning butchers will be gone... 😢
Infernal Horde is better if you want Ancestral legendarys they drop 2-3 guaranteed from the big chest also you get crazy amounts of gold if you pick the gold chest afterwards, only thing you dont get are runes wich could be useful if you dont allready have them.
static surge paragon node, lucky hit to restore mana, GA resource with 2 masterwork crit on axial conduit. If you still struggle, you most likely have no good gear, or very little paragon points. You can alwas add stuff like recharging aspect, +mana per second rolls on armor pieces and you can always switch to resource elixir. If you still can't make it, I'd recommend to chose a more simple build to play. Chain lightning is really late game focussed
@@GoldfarmingGuide In those new dungeons (green sigils). They always have a treasure room somewhere in the dungeon which u need to unlock. The problem is that the treasure room unlocking is poorly implemented. Sometimes u need to activate some pillars, sometime You need animus etc. But there is never a quest for these, so u don't know only u'll see on the minimap/on the ground the animus for example.
I will post a follow up on this probably today after I test it. I don't think it will be worse. Opening shrines and waiting for Goblins spawns took a long time which was likely not worth the wait if you're just looking for obducite. But you will obviously get significantly less boss mats now.
@GoldfarmingGuide I tried it out a few hours ago and it seems pretty good still, what I've noticed is that you losing out on boss mats which is what the goblins dropped and definitely losing some obducite from killing butcher. But if you quick enough running those nmd? you can make up to it. Sure I'll stay posted and wait for the video, your guides are insane. So maybe you'll teach me a thing or two.
I will post a follow up on this probably today after I test it. I don't think it will be worse. Opening shrines and waiting for Goblins spawns took a long time which was likely not worth the wait if you're just looking for obducite. But you will obviously get significantly less boss mats now.
the event really does only add to biss mat gain, but not to obducite gain. prolly you even get more obducite if you dont activate shrines and wait for the goblins to spawn
why is it too late :D the goblin event really only increases the amount of boss mats. For obducite, waiting for a goblin to spawn for 100 is not really a difference then just pushing dungeons faster.
25K is not alot especially for an hour of your time it takes what like 5k-7k to fully masterwork gear that’s if you’re not rerolling and on top of that you have to do that on 7-9 pieces of gear
@@GoldfarmingGuide i do hordes so much and t10 gives 700 900 aether it gives minimum 2.5 3k in 15 min in good runs u got more than 4k and exp items etc too. so who is stupid?
@@Chronaxy hordes take approx 13 mins...I saw a different guy test it. Solo farming Hordes vs NMD...Solo farmed horde took about 13 mins. He got around 3K obducite. He ran NMDs with the opal that gives materials....he was able to do on average 6 dungeons in 13 mins. He was getting about 900 obducite per run. THIS WAS BEFORE THE EVENT.....so that is 5.4K obducite vs 3K in 13 mins.
looks cool and all. but farm for what? there is simply no real end game and 50% of sorc skills are useless (ice shards, frozen orb, blizzard, flame wall, ball light). just seems the game is going nowhere.
first, i highly doubt you average 2500 in 6 wave hordes, second 6 wave hordes takes about what? 7 minutes? that would be 20-25k at most. Also it makes very little sense sice 6waves hordes is absolutely horrible for obducite netting maybe 2/3 of 10 wave per hour
@@GoldfarmingGuide t10 max 12-13 min and in good runs gives 3.5 4k min. also if u buy service from someone you dont have to do anything just stay watch or online from your work lol!
@ it takes time to kill them, and also time to click shrines etc. And 100 is not very much. One goblin takes like 20 seconds with the wait for spawn. 20 seconds is 15% of a dungeon which is roughly 200 obducite.
@ what’s the luxury? You guys are doing NMD, you get tributes of refinement sometimes when doing NMD. All you need to do is search party for Undercity refinement tributes and most of the time there are try hards that do most of the work for you. You’re just being fed wrong information that’s all. Don’t knock it till you try it buddy.
@@joaquinpangelinan9862 if he had the dlc im sure he would have tryed it. not everyone has the dlc u bot. u really think he had the dlc and dint try it rofl, ah just another dumb ass sb player...........
Updated Results after Halloween Event: th-cam.com/video/CrjDJRF74GY/w-d-xo.html
TLDR; Still 25k Obducite/Hour!
I hate how the pet has a very slow and limited pick ip radius, my build allows me to zip and kill the NMD boss in 1-2mins but I spend more time picking up loot.
yeah pet is slow af, and also the large pickup radius we got in S5 has been reverted unfortunately. Picking up stuff definetly slowing down a bit, but still working alright.
@@GoldfarmingGuidethey def did that on purpose
you just need to walk to get obducite etc, leave rest loot on floor like runes or gear or boss items. youget them delivered later. you can spam 50 dungeons before u have to sort them
@@ConeyIslandKing by picking up loot, I mean the obducite, I do not pick up anything else, not even bac runes, I have so much of them and gold capped.
@ uhm no you dont get the loot ;) you cannot get more than 10 items from lost items stash
Its refreshing to see content like this, keep up the good work man. Coming from someone whos been playing D for over 20 years.
This is very good information thank you! I will say that you are using arguably the best speedfarming build in the game (teleport lightning sorc) so if someone doesn't want to run that for these runs the mileage will be quite a lot lower. If we remove the event stuff, and you use a build that can't zip through the map at blinding speed, you are going to probably be better off in hordes/tribute of refinements. That said - this shows what's totally possible if you're willing to build that sorc!
spiritborn is much faster than sorc in this. Rogue should be equally fast. Barb should be fine as well, just not sure about druid/nec
I’ve been crafting nmd keys and completing the ones that are whispers to get caches as well.. it is a bit pricey on your abstruse sigils however if you save several different dungeons in your stash you can run them when available. Honestly it’s a pretty fun and efficient way of obtaining nearly everything you could possibly need. The goblins and butchers give it a little bit of zest as well 👏
yeah you can definetly search in stash for the whisper ones. I just feel like it's too much of a hassle for me personally :D
One NMD QOL feature we need- if nmd is one of the whisper quests, AND you have a key to this nmd in inventory, there should be an extra indicator on map to indicate this fact. Same for the nmd keys in inventory(and stash) should have itself an extra icon showing this dungeon is in nmd whisper rotation . Also like to see, maybe, fragment sink allowing us to spend fragments and lots of dust to guarantee craft nmd key that is for a whisper dungeon
yeah would be awesome for the key to have the whisper icon or such
thx for the NM list much appriciated!!
Personally been farming NMD too, I just like it. Infernals are luck based depending on buffs and always have to commit to specific number of waves.
I always try do do like a alot of activities, to keep the loop fun. Else I burn out, do NM dungeons until xp wel. Tthen do pits, realmwalker, undercity, bossrun with full group of friends. complete some bounties for the tree, world boss.. etc.
main problem is all events same and so boring. only infernal hordes meditative. nmd and pit designs very bad. wrong turns and walls everywhere so cant do smoothly. realmwalker is nonesense some sponge walks and so many people kill brainless npc for 2 minutes for what? pit only gives little gear and glyph level. what after you level 100 your build? helltides just for farm especially after good build there is no challenge or fun on it just run there and wait near raven. this game needs good end game event like poe delve or atlas!
i dont get how people have this opinion. Infernal hordes is the most boring thin i can ever imagine :D
YEP, this is my go to when I don’t have refinement tributes. Who wants to stand in the same room for 8-10 waves for 10min no thanks! I HATE horde so much! Anyone who genuinely likes doing horde is a psychopath‼️
Thanks.
What i dont understand, and maybe its just my view point on things and how I play which I acknowledge. But why are people so obsessed with making X amount in Y time. For me i dont mind if I only get 2.5 k obdacite for a 5-10 minute activity. Im playing the game to relax, not to pressure myself with "Productivity standards". Just enjoy the game. Enjoy the journey and the build. Why does it have to be done so quick all the time for people? (Just my opinion and I know people will hate for it but I wanted it out there, relax and enjoy folks) ❤
cuz so many people min maxing their build and they need gold or mats for that with limited play time they have. so they need farm efficently and after that buy/loot items etc.
honestly nothing wrong about that take. But if you're more endgame focussed it really comes down to efficiency to achieve your goals at some point.
If I get 1 hour to play on weekdays and 4 on the weekend, I need to make sure that my time is as efficient as possible when farming.
Schon in den ersten 5sek. wusste ich das der Dude Deutscher ist😂
Every dungeon in Nahantu has a Treasure Room that gives 250 obducite + 3 elites, so 300 obducite. Worth doing imo...
it takes very long to open that room and is very inefficient. Not worth it in the end, you can basically finish a half dungeon in the time you take to unlock that room.
@@GoldfarmingGuide i mean half of them are either collect anima from elites youre already killing or literally just click a body for a key, idk how that's inefficient when playing a 0 cd tele build.
@@tflydr it basically takes FOREVER to do it. The new nightmare dungeons are absolutely horrible. Also finishing the dungeon is basically just telporting through zero mob densits, so really the chest room would have to reword rougly 750k to be worth doing.
did some dungeons today felt ok but ... 50% of the shrines i got were conduits... cant they please just remove theees fuckers from the game... whats the point klicking them to spawn a goblin or butcher if you cant kill them for the next 20 or so seconds...
yeah you dont wana click the conduits just skip them
is this still viable w/o the goblins spawning with shrines? cuz that wont be around for long.
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2B worth of mats its with the boss season elixir right?
NMD is still the most boring in the game for me. And for farming obdocit the pet is way to slow. Thats the reason why i prefer hordes and undercity because all u need just drops at the end 👌. From my point of view NMD are still useless.
well worked out great for me :D you will not even remotely make 25k/hour in infernal hordes, and again it's obv. personal preference, but for me after playing 1 season of infernal hordes it was super refreshing for me.
If people want to say Horde is better than NM dungeons for rewards then fine. I can’t understand why people think NM dungeons are more “boring” though? Hordes puts you in the same round room all the time and just pushes waves of enemies at you. Efficient, yeah, but how is it not the most boring thing in the game??? I can’t stand it.
Different layouts. I like the NMD change
I like to rotate between Pits, Hordes, NMD and Helltides to keep things refresh. I'll also throw Undercity into the mix from time to time. I just came across a few ascendant tributes so curious to see if I get any mythics from them.
I'd rather run NMD for everything especially glyphs rather then run those garbage Pits were r forced to run smh... I can't stand that they changed glyphs to the damn pits so annoying.
so also you get cursed chests, and health pools maybe the shrines during events and the actual events as well duh
GoodJob!
thanks for making this game less boring
After i watch it i can confirm, atleast for the time of the event around 1200 with not so geared sors xD... The bad part is that the event wont w8t me till next weekend xD
Really can't just type wait? surely it's less effort than using 8
Here in bulgaria we have a way to write with english letters but we use some numbers for the the missing ones xD so its more like a habbit, and my english writing is not so good
@@droid5785dont h8t on w8t
the event is not so mandatory for obducite gain. It really just boosts your boss summoning material gain.
@@GoldfarmingGuide Of course the event is mandatory... At 13:12 you show you got 13 butchers each would have given 250 Obducite each meaning 3250 Obducite of your total at the end...event ends in less than 48 hours meaning all goblins and burning butchers will be gone... 😢
So where's that 2 billion gold?
sell the boss mats
If u sell item instead of melting u make a good amount per hour
@@chrisfennimore2939 and you will deplete your raw hide and other mats if u wanna triple crit !
Infernal Horde is better if you want Ancestral legendarys they drop 2-3 guaranteed from the big chest also you get crazy amounts of gold if you pick the gold chest afterwards, only thing you dont get are runes wich could be useful if you dont allready have them.
Not true I have got 1 ancestral a unique gloves endurant faith
hordes just rewards much less in all of the points you mentioned above ;)
You also have to choose gold or materials. We're as in NMDs you get both.
I mean that’s great you can zip through but if you don’t pick it up then you don’t get the obducite.
well I get 25k per hour, so I must be picking up something, right? ;)
how do I solve the mana issue in the chain lightning build?
static surge paragon node, lucky hit to restore mana, GA resource with 2 masterwork crit on axial conduit.
If you still struggle, you most likely have no good gear, or very little paragon points. You can alwas add stuff like recharging aspect, +mana per second rolls on armor pieces and you can always switch to resource elixir.
If you still can't make it, I'd recommend to chose a more simple build to play. Chain lightning is really late game focussed
In nahantu you want to unlock the "closed" room. It has approx 50% chance to give 2K obducide from the chest.
what closed room you referring to? :D
@@GoldfarmingGuide treasure room he means
@@intuii no clue what that would be :D
@@GoldfarmingGuide In those new dungeons (green sigils). They always have a treasure room somewhere in the dungeon which u need to unlock. The problem is that the treasure room unlocking is poorly implemented. Sometimes u need to activate some pillars, sometime You need animus etc. But there is never a quest for these, so u don't know only u'll see on the minimap/on the ground the animus for example.
@@ZaRaven ooh those. honestly i just opened one of those once and it didn’t drop anything. Will test that again thanks
how is this method after the event?
I will post a follow up on this probably today after I test it. I don't think it will be worse. Opening shrines and waiting for Goblins spawns took a long time which was likely not worth the wait if you're just looking for obducite. But you will obviously get significantly less boss mats now.
@GoldfarmingGuide I tried it out a few hours ago and it seems pretty good still, what I've noticed is that you losing out on boss mats which is what the goblins dropped and definitely losing some obducite from killing butcher. But if you quick enough running those nmd? you can make up to it. Sure I'll stay posted and wait for the video, your guides are insane. So maybe you'll teach me a thing or two.
How about now that Halloween is over?
I will post a follow up on this probably today after I test it. I don't think it will be worse. Opening shrines and waiting for Goblins spawns took a long time which was likely not worth the wait if you're just looking for obducite. But you will obviously get significantly less boss mats now.
@GoldfarmingGuide i think so too. thanks man
Na I can't agree to your findings entirely coz the Halloween event literally ends tmrw on 5th Nov so this method won't be efficient for long...
the event really does only add to biss mat gain, but not to obducite gain. prolly you even get more obducite if you dont activate shrines and wait for the goblins to spawn
Thanks for this, to bad it's to late to help
why is it too late :D the goblin event really only increases the amount of boss mats. For obducite, waiting for a goblin to spawn for 100 is not really a difference then just pushing dungeons faster.
@GoldfarmingGuide for the event.
@@LandofMert76 event really not so important. Without the event you will probably even make more obducite per hour
@GoldfarmingGuide I was on vacation last week and could have used my time better plus the extra from shrines
25K is not alot especially for an hour of your time it takes what like 5k-7k to fully masterwork gear that’s if you’re not rerolling and on top of that you have to do that on 7-9 pieces of gear
Well, its the highest amount you can Solofarm without Tributes of Refinement ;)
@@GoldfarmingGuide no hordes gives more xp and obductie!
@@Chronaxy try to make 25k/h in hordes - for like 2 hours. You will fail
@@GoldfarmingGuide i do hordes so much and t10 gives 700 900 aether it gives minimum 2.5 3k in 15 min in good runs u got more than 4k and exp items etc too. so who is stupid?
@@Chronaxy hordes take approx 13 mins...I saw a different guy test it. Solo farming Hordes vs NMD...Solo farmed horde took about 13 mins. He got around 3K obducite. He ran NMDs with the opal that gives materials....he was able to do on average 6 dungeons in 13 mins. He was getting about 900 obducite per run. THIS WAS BEFORE THE EVENT.....so that is 5.4K obducite vs 3K in 13 mins.
im not sure if this is a coinsiidens but i got 3 timers in a row 3 goblins from the abadoneds mineworks shrine
sounds like rng :D
Sarat's Lair should be on that list too
true i actually didnt run one of them in the test, there is prolly some more which slipped true
neah infernal hordes always better if u have a service from someone go afk and end of hordes u got 3 4k mats
yesh most stupid comment ever 😂
@@GoldfarmingGuide yes you are:)
Just do Uber bosses and sell you Get shit tons of money and materiel and chance for mythical drops
but no obducite 😂😂😂
looks cool and all. but farm for what? there is simply no real end game and 50% of sorc skills are useless (ice shards, frozen orb, blizzard, flame wall, ball light). just seems the game is going nowhere.
Replace:
farm = "live"
sorc = "my"
@@rcane6842😂😂😂
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I’m sorry but that is not more than you can make in infernal hordes. You get around 2-3k per 6. That means you making 30k an hour.
first, i highly doubt you average 2500 in 6 wave hordes, second 6 wave hordes takes about what? 7 minutes? that would be 20-25k at most. Also it makes very little sense sice 6waves hordes is absolutely horrible for obducite netting maybe 2/3 of 10 wave per hour
@@GoldfarmingGuide t10 max 12-13 min and in good runs gives 3.5 4k min. also if u buy service from someone you dont have to do anything just stay watch or online from your work lol!
@@Chronaxy again, buying servicec is a completely different kind of thing. But just calculate your own stuff :D
4k * 60/12 = 20k
@@GoldfarmingGuide its minimum 2.5k whatever NMD dungeons takes so much effort and max same mats so hordes always better for me:)
Key words: " WITH THE GOBLIN EVENT" without it nmd are utter garbage.
i will do a follow up, without goblin’s obducite will be equal or even more
@GoldfarmingGuide how's it possibly going to be more if there's less or no goblins?
@ it takes time to kill them, and also time to click shrines etc. And 100 is not very much. One goblin takes like 20 seconds with the wait for spawn. 20 seconds is 15% of a dungeon which is roughly 200 obducite.
Ya, only if you can do Torment IV. Which I can barely survive T2.
well you can do it in T2 as well :D rewards are just halfed.
25k per hour? I can get 16k in 15 minutes doing Undercity Refinement Groups with a good group 😂😂😂.
@ what’s the luxury? You guys are doing NMD, you get tributes of refinement sometimes when doing NMD. All you need to do is search party for Undercity refinement tributes and most of the time there are try hards that do most of the work for you. You’re just being fed wrong information that’s all. Don’t knock it till you try it buddy.
@@joaquinpangelinan9862 Not all realms have a lot of ques a lot of realms have 1 or none
@@joaquinpangelinan9862 if he had the dlc im sure he would have tryed it. not everyone has the dlc u bot. u really think he had the dlc and dint try it rofl, ah just another dumb ass sb player...........
again as said in the video, you can make more in undercity if you have the tributes. Not the point.
Wait so your comment makes no sense cause u still have to nmd 😂😂😂
So you made 23k obducite per hour, but titled the video 25k per hour. Got it.
Pretty numbers :D And you can for sure be much faster than I was