Dear Arroz Nonas story is one of the most heartbreacking I know. I have been following since 2016 and I remember when Nona asked for your help. It's so sad that she never will have another baby. Wish when people want to interfere that they would let the younger females go and instead take some of the olders. I would prefer that humans don't interfere at all 😪
The problem is there is not a predator ballance to keep their numbers down. So the government started a sterilization program to do that. They catch the humanized ones. The ones that come for the regular feeders. Unfortunately they catch some smart ones and end that line of genes. If people didn't feed them they would naturally regulate their breeding according to food supply. People are very good at messing up nature's ballance.
Im new to the channel and noticed Nona was marked but had no idea of the back story. What an absolute heartbreaking gut punch. She is the perfect mother and to be robbed of that is so wrong, especially after losing Nova. No wonder she looks so downtrodden while seeing the newborns. I hope she feels much love from the babies she gets to babysit and interact with. Thats the least she's owed. Thanks for reposting this for us newbies. Cheers...
Nona looks so sad especially when babies are around. I feel her pain. It’s really sad because she was a good mom and Nova was beautiful and so precious ! 😢Nona is such a character! ❤
@@feelinfroggy8089 AM usually reports any adult or baby missing after a 3 week period. He films each weekend and uploads the contents after editing etc. a few days later depending on his amount of free time available. He does work and has a responsible position; there are also others that record the various troops on Monkey Hill, namely: MC, JW, and GEM Wild Monkeys HK, all have videos on TH-cam. Some 20% of babies die in the first 6 month period from accidents, malnutrition or an infection. This increases to 32% after 6 months as the babies become more independent from their mothers. This info comes from research papers that are based on surveys over a number of years that have been pier reviewed and are viewable on the internet. Fatal falls and road kill are high on the list, so it is not possible to precisely say what happened, although someone, may have seen it happen, and that is only an opinion. AM did a video in which he analyses the baby losses in the troops he films. It's called Q&A retained placenta and infant mortality and is viewable on his TH-cam channel. It's 5 year old now, but very educational. Happy viewing!
AM, you are an excellent storyteller! This was heartbreaking. I’m not sure what Nona was trying to achieve with the leaf and the stick… ??? Also, I always forget to comment on the butterflies; so beautiful💕
Cuando estoy algo deprimida o tuve un día muy complicado, vuelvo a ver videos de Dopey o la de Nana acicalando con hojas y una rama, y duermo con una sonrisa y no dejo de admirar el ingenio de estos dos. Pero es muy triste la vida de Nana, muy triste e injusto
Stop with the bad mother’s crap. They’re wild animals and we only see what AM shows us. It’s not enough to judged when he has to create a storyline to keep you all engaged.
The importance of the clans should be acceptable for the primates to and allow them children to you have been a teacher and have educated a lot of us on primates thank you I appreciate all you are doing.
Of all the Monkey channels I watch (quite a few) I have never ever seen another macaque use a tool to groom. How incredibly intelligent Nona is and how sad we will never see if that trait gets passed down through generations. I just love her. ❤
AM you're masterful at story telling pulling me in so much I've cried for many of the losses. These amazing animals DO experience pain, loss to say otherwise is painful, disrespectful as I see more empathy with them than humans.
I sure wish they would get advice from you monkey watchers on who they sterilize. I ended up here a few weeks ago when my 10yr old Grandson had a disturbing short come up on his phone & grandma saw a baby monkey NOT sucking his thumb but other part. Oh what a joy for gram to explain! I had to do a little research & found out why😮 and explained & promptly reported the chanel exploiting these poor babies. During my exploration I came upon those really sad monkey chanels where there is much interferance from the V.O. 's & they love to show abandon baby monkeys in distress, sure wish once those babies were big enough to feed themselves these lonesome Moms here could adopt them, but suppose it doesn't work that way. Anyway love your stories, you do an amazing job❤
Its a difference in location... this is Hong Kong, China... the others are shot in or around Angkor Wat in Cambodia... and then stolen to make pet channels and then dumped if not killed:( This is a the more serene channels where they are happy, and with their real family... and troop
Welcome! You'll love it here. A.M. also recommends watching Monkeys Inc., JW and GEM Wild Monkeys HK. These are all channels run by people who practice non-interference of the troops.
Thank you for the warm welcome and advice on other suitable chanels. I really went down the rabbit hole looking into these chanels. I see these poor babies in clothes being exploited for money. I asked some of these people how they were going to keep these full grown monkeys in their homes. No responses! I was also so disgusted I left a comment on a clearly predatory chanel & used the P word & promptly got a 72 hour utube suspension from commenting. Utube has a problem with me but allows these types of videos? Oh well it gave me 3 days to report & strike chanels. I don't understand how people can cheer on these "content creators" send money and not see these poor animals are being exploited, only to be dumped when they are no longer little & cute. So heartbreaking. I also found out best to not comment or give engagement because that's exactly what they want. It was so nice to come here & see these amazing creatures in somewhat of a natural environment and see an ethical content creator with amazing content. I now want to know so much more about them, how the hierarchy works etc. Any channels or reading suggestions?
@@valerienelson3296 We've all learned so much watching "Arroz Marisco" and "The Story So Far" over the past 9 years. Both are A.M.'s channels and his videos are always informative. Lots of us have done research on our own because of the interest sparked by A.M. BTW, he also recommends "The Vervet Monkey Foundation", as well as "Kiyo", who films the Snow Monkeys. For every evil VO, like those in Cambodia, there are good ones, as well as kind-hearted viewers who have only the welfare and protection of these primates in mind.
Hello. I am going to be honest I love this channel you are so awesome to take the time to describe each of the monkeys. You do such a wonderful job on the monkeys. And also to be honest the other channels that do the monkeys I don't like because the camera men hurt or kill the babies and have fake vets for the monkeys. Question? The female monkeys do they sterilized after a certain of live births. Which to me is awesome this way there not over crowded in monkeys. If the words didn't come out right my apologies. Thank you so much for sharing your videos with the world
I think, that when the authorities believe it's time to reduce the numbers, they then "bate" the trap cages and sterilize whatever number of monkeys that they require! 🤷♂
As I understand it, and might be wrong, they just randomly catch these monkeys for sterilization. They don't plan who has or how many babies each had. It seems very unfair IMHO.
If females are captured for sterilization. Could it be that someone else is catching young monkeys? I know it's illegal, but people do illegal things. And for selling a monkey to a lab they get a lot of money...
Thank you for sharing Nona's story, it was touching and I feel like I know why she always has sad eyes. I was wondering when you can share the story of Vivy and Spotty? I am so curious to know how that other troop is involved and so baffled as to how they could both leave their babies while still so young. Hopefully soon you will have time to share it with us, thanks 💞💞💞💞
I just loved it when Nona was using a stick on her mother's eyes 😂😂❤ ..mom was so patient with her ... I would have liked her to have lived a long life with many babies.. Della
I understand wanting to control the population but, I wish they'd just relocate them instead of taking away their livelihood. 😔 It's obvious she is depressed and sad. And it seemed as tho she was 1/2 a step beyond "just being a monkey", with her ophthalmology skills 🤓, and her esthetician skills💆🏼♀️🧖🏼♀️ Meaning, there is something extraordinary about Nona. A week of studying her and studying moms of little ones would make it apparent to those that tattoo them. When you said in the very beginning about uncertainty of babysitter at the time, my gut said Bo 😩. Nova seemed too old for Bo to take when she went missing but, I guess it's possible. I'm not feeling it went that way tho. My heart breaks for Nona. If I had a baby monkey, I'd seek her out to be the baby's' only babysitter! 😢
I suspect, and this is only an opinion, that the symbol or character chosen, relates to the day in which the procedure was done. Don't forget that measurements and pictures would also have been taken of the monkey as a record for zoological reasons. However, it could also mean, simply, that the monkey has been neutered.
Find it odd if this little one got hit by a car someone would of found blood or body laying next to the road. Weird none go missing overnight just when the VO's "are not around "
How does a perfectly healthy baby like nova come up missing in a short period of time. She seemed big enough to get around on her own . What natural predators live in the park too?
Are you freaking kidding me after the babies been kidnapped all day and finally gets to be with her mother she literally gives her a cute little kiss on the face. It’s the cutest thing I’ve ever seen in my life.
Honestly Mr AM I think this has to be THE saddest video you 've posted, and there have been some doozies of late. I understand the program to cut back on to many babies, but surely it would be better to ask the people who document these troups what kind of mother these individuals are
I believe in sterization but only certain ones....the bad ones...why would they sterilized a young one...and such a good mother?? Like whomever mentioned above me...they should ask before they sterilize....ask the people that actually know these monkeys. This story is SO sad.
How can you determine that? Do you really get enough information through some videos on TH-cam to know whether or not it is necessary to have a sterilization program for these macaques??? Thanks for replying! 🤗 ❤🩷🧡
Hello there! Look up the stats on how many macaques do not make it to one year..it's unbelievable and sad! These are rhesus macaques. ;)@@lottatroublemaker6130
You need to direct your concerns to the Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Dept, within the Government of HK SAR.They have a web site and a Facebook Page. so I expect there will be an email address somewhere.
It does make you wonder if you tried showing one of the babies how do use a comb and then gave it to them if they would try using it. I don’t think they would use it every day but if they would try emulating what you were doing.
Don't you know it really made Nona feel good that day she asked you for help with Nova and you followed her to check out the situation. Nona is such a sad story, her baby died and then she got the damn tatoo.
@@PamPreston78 they don't usually fall at that age. They're very adept at climbing by then, but anything is possible. A weak branch could give way, or rough play could cause a fall to happen. Usually, though, it's the tinier babies who die from a fall due to a careless mother, a kidnapping situation, etc.
I’ve seen mommas use that type of “tool” when they’re trying to wean the baby onto solids. They’ll put something edible right up to the eye. lol. So precious. Love my monkeys.
I'm sure they do in most cases. They are usually close to the babies, so if one has a bad fall they are around. I'm sure stuff happens in the thick of trees, and of course AM can only see what happens when he visits. If a baby gets an infection the mum will know something is wrong, and the bay is dying but probably won't understand what an infection is 😢
@@Danceswithfishes the stats are: 20% of babies die in the first 6 months from birth from: accidents, malnutrition or a infection. This increases to 32% after 6 months when the babies become more independent from their mothers. This info comes from one of the research papers, based on field studies, viewable online, that has been pier reviewed. Also road kill and fatal falls are high on the list. AM did video on this its called Q&A retained placenta and infant mortality, it's on his Arroz Marisco channel. He analyses the baby deaths on a year by year basis in the troops he videos, in HK. The only (sad) down side is that after a few days a mum will abandon her dead babies body, and certainly that was the case with Stormy videoed by JW, Stormy died from an infection, back in Nov 2021, IIRC. His mum in the end abandoned his remains at the base of the Kowloon Reservoir Dam on Golden Hill Road. I have to say that the Cambodian cameramen, at least bury a dead baby's body, and there are long protracted videos of this.
Oh, my...the pain in those beautiful eyes. Non-human primates have to have the capability to feel emotions. We can see the sadness in Nona's eyes plain and clear. That's emotion in full display.
Sadly we now know that Bo was a bigger killer of babies than any car on the road.🥺 Not through malice but that very strong urge to be a mother they all have. The human intervention via sterilization has taken away the hope of so many and inadvertently turned some into baby killers. Not that those running the sterilization program give a damn.😡 Ever since I started watching in 2016 I have been heartbroken for these poor females who have had their purpose in life taken from them.😔 Thank you for telling their story Arroz.🙏
Nona is such a good mother she's beautiful as well, I know her pain and its the worst pain I've ever felt I lost nine early miscarriages and the heart break and depression is horrible. I'm Sorry Nona 🕊️
Nona for sure was trying to get your help. Lowina sure as hell wasn't goin to do anything. She just there not good or bad..useless really. Poor Nona was distraught and wanted someone to listen and help. I've watched since your beginning and your hands down the best monkey channel on TH-cam. I would love to see you recognized for it. A model for other channels to follow. Some are horrible and I always feel like I can't do a thing to help.
I so so 😡 ïat those people that keep taking the monkeys and taking they life away from them cuz having babies that's there life😢 . they need to stop doing this to they'd poor monkey .
Очень потрясающий репортаж. Прочитал комментарии и почему-то никто не допустил идеи, что Нона жива и что ее просто забрали люди. Т.е. возможно есть небольшая надежда, что Нона жива! И почему ее должно не стать? Ведь ее просто нет там, но это не значит, что ее нет вообще... я надеюсь по крайней мере! Что касается стерилизации, то у меня двоякое мнение! Ведь многие столетия их никто не стерелизировал! А теперь должно быть они могут вымерут, если не давать им размножаться! Спасибо!
Yea, see that really upsets me. The people in that do the sterilizing have to kno there r plenty of different feeders etc. they could talk to, actually, SHOULD talk to before just grabbing any old female an doing that to them, give them the ones that r god awful mothers, what kind of sense does that make? Show of hands if u agree the answer is totally Gypsy, between Nona an Gypsy, who should be the one to be sterilized? No doubt gypsy, she's an absolutely terrible mother. Also, Nora, I'm so tired of seeing her treat her babys so cruelly u til they die, an u can not tell me she doesn't kno what she's doing. She is fully aware
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Dear Arroz Nonas story is one of the most heartbreacking I know. I have been following since 2016 and I remember when Nona asked for your help. It's so sad that she never will have another baby. Wish when people want to interfere that they would let the younger females go and instead take some of the olders. I would prefer that humans don't interfere at all 😪
The problem is there is not a predator ballance to keep their numbers down. So the government started a sterilization program to do that. They catch the humanized ones. The ones that come for the regular feeders. Unfortunately they catch some smart ones and end that line of genes. If people didn't feed them they would naturally regulate their breeding according to food supply. People are very good at messing up nature's ballance.
Nona was such a lively and unique monkey. So sorry she had to lose the sparkle in her eyes.
That is so sad. She not only lost the spark in her eyes, but u can feel and see her loneliness.
Im new to the channel and noticed Nona was marked but had no idea of the back story. What an absolute heartbreaking gut punch. She is the perfect mother and to be robbed of that is so wrong, especially after losing Nova. No wonder she looks so downtrodden while seeing the newborns. I hope she feels much love from the babies she gets to babysit and interact with. Thats the least she's owed. Thanks for reposting this for us newbies. Cheers...
Nona looks so sad especially when babies are around. I feel her pain. It’s really sad because she was a good mom and Nova was beautiful and so precious ! 😢Nona is such a character! ❤
What happened to her baby?
@@feelinfroggy8089
¿Qué le pasó al bebé?
What happened to baby Nona's Nova? La anona y la toronja con yuca y cilantro, con crema de pakalla picada.
She doesn’t need to have a baby. She’s perfectly fine without one.
@@feelinfroggy8089 AM usually reports any adult or baby missing after a 3 week period. He films each weekend and uploads the contents after editing etc. a few days later depending on his amount of free time available. He does work and has a responsible position; there are also others that record the various troops on Monkey Hill, namely: MC, JW, and GEM Wild Monkeys HK, all have videos on TH-cam. Some 20% of babies die in the first 6 month period from accidents, malnutrition or an infection. This increases to 32% after 6 months as the babies become more independent from their mothers. This info comes from research papers that are based on surveys over a number of years that have been pier reviewed and are viewable on the internet. Fatal falls and road kill are high on the list, so it is not possible to precisely say what happened, although someone, may have seen it happen, and that is only an opinion. AM did a video in which he analyses the baby losses in the troops he films. It's called Q&A retained placenta and infant mortality and is viewable on his TH-cam channel. It's 5 year old now, but very educational. Happy viewing!
That's heart breaking,Nona was a good momma She looks so sad and heartbroken.😞💔😞💔😞💔
No, IT wasn't. That's the reason why all it's cubs are dead.
I’m just wondering where she would have learned something like that. I can’t imagine she would see something like that in the wild. 🤔
Past life.
AM, you are an excellent storyteller! This was heartbreaking. I’m not sure what Nona was trying to achieve with the leaf and the stick… ??? Also, I always forget to comment on the butterflies; so beautiful💕
Cuando estoy algo deprimida o tuve un día muy complicado, vuelvo a ver videos de Dopey o la de Nana acicalando con hojas y una rama, y duermo con una sonrisa y no dejo de admirar el ingenio de estos dos. Pero es muy triste la vida de Nana, muy triste e injusto
So sad that good mothers get caught and sterilized while bad mothers never seem to get caught.
Stop with the bad mother’s crap. They’re wild animals and we only see what AM shows us. It’s not enough to judged when he has to create a storyline to keep you all engaged.
I completely agree! Some of these moms are absolutely horrible and viscous.
I don't even understand the sterilizing anyway. Why are they even doing that? I feel it is just soooo wrong. 👹👹
Over population and destruction to human property
Still sad regardless
How can you not love NONA, what a special monkey ❤
The importance of the clans should be acceptable for the primates to and allow them children to you have been a teacher and have educated a lot of us on primates thank you I appreciate all you are doing.
Of all the Monkey channels I watch (quite a few) I have never ever seen another macaque use a tool to groom. How incredibly intelligent Nona is and how sad we will never see if that trait gets passed down through generations. I just love her. ❤
AM you're masterful at story telling pulling me in so much I've cried for many of the losses. These amazing animals DO experience pain, loss to say otherwise is painful, disrespectful as I see more empathy with them than humans.
I imagine we could learn a lot about social interaction by observing troupes that do not have any human interference.
No they don’t..!! Just give them some food and they forget they ever had a baby 😂😂
This breaks my heart for them. Thankyou Mr. AM for your chronicling of these families.
Poor Nona. Despite her misfortune she doesn't try to kidnap any baby, just hopes to babysit. 😢
AM, you do the best job with the videos! Even putting the music together! Thank You!!! I always look forward to more!!!
I sure wish they would get advice from you monkey watchers on who they sterilize.
I ended up here a few weeks ago when my 10yr old Grandson had a disturbing short come up on his phone & grandma saw a baby monkey NOT sucking his thumb but other part. Oh what a joy for gram to explain! I had to do a little research & found out why😮 and explained & promptly reported the chanel exploiting these poor babies. During my exploration
I came upon those really sad monkey chanels where there is much interferance from the V.O. 's & they love to show abandon baby monkeys in distress, sure wish once those babies were big enough to feed themselves these lonesome Moms here could adopt them, but suppose it doesn't work that way.
Anyway love your stories, you do an amazing job❤
Its a difference in location... this is Hong Kong, China... the others are shot in or around Angkor Wat in Cambodia... and then stolen to make pet channels and then dumped if not killed:( This is a the more serene channels where they are happy, and with their real family... and troop
Welcome! You'll love it here. A.M. also recommends watching Monkeys Inc., JW and GEM Wild Monkeys HK. These are all channels run by people who practice non-interference of the troops.
Thank you for the warm welcome and advice on other suitable chanels. I really went down the rabbit hole looking into these chanels. I see these poor babies in clothes being exploited for money. I asked some of these people how they were going to keep these full grown monkeys in their homes. No responses! I was also so disgusted I left a comment on a clearly predatory chanel & used the P word & promptly got a 72 hour utube suspension from commenting. Utube has a problem with me but allows these types of videos? Oh well it gave me 3 days to report & strike chanels. I don't understand how people can cheer on these "content creators" send money and not see these poor animals are being exploited, only to be dumped when they are no longer little & cute. So heartbreaking. I also found out best to not comment or give engagement because that's exactly what they want. It was so nice to come here & see these amazing creatures in somewhat of a natural environment and see an ethical content creator with amazing content. I now want to know so much more about them, how the hierarchy works etc. Any channels or reading suggestions?
@@valerienelson3296Go to Arroz Marisco and start watching the videos from the beginning. Mr AM explains a lot about the monkeys and their hierarchy.
@@valerienelson3296 We've all learned so much watching "Arroz Marisco" and "The Story So Far" over the past 9 years. Both are A.M.'s channels and his videos are always informative. Lots of us have done research on our own because of the interest sparked by A.M. BTW, he also recommends "The Vervet Monkey Foundation", as well as "Kiyo", who films the Snow Monkeys.
For every evil VO, like those in Cambodia, there are good ones, as well as kind-hearted viewers who have only the welfare and protection of these primates in mind.
@18:00 Noe looks so pensive.
Hoppy babies are my favorites.
Hello. I am going to be honest I love this channel you are so awesome to take the time to describe each of the monkeys. You do such a wonderful job on the monkeys. And also to be honest the other channels that do the monkeys I don't like because the camera men hurt or kill the babies and have fake vets for the monkeys. Question? The female monkeys do they sterilized after a certain of live births. Which to me is awesome this way there not over crowded in monkeys. If the words didn't come out right my apologies. Thank you so much for sharing your videos with the world
I think, that when the authorities believe it's time to reduce the numbers, they then "bate" the trap cages and sterilize whatever number of monkeys that they require! 🤷♂
The females are caught randomly. Wether they have had babies or not. Sad.
As I understand it, and might be wrong, they just randomly catch these monkeys for sterilization. They don't plan who has or how many babies each had. It seems very unfair IMHO.
If females are captured for sterilization. Could it be that someone else is catching young monkeys? I know it's illegal, but people do illegal things.
And for selling a monkey to a lab they get a lot of money...
@@tamirapp2830 @sandysmith6178 There are three traps on Monkey Hill, all are viewable on google maps; and operate in a non discriminatory manner.
Oh Nona you're a hoot!!!!Missouri way of saying funny
My husband is SW Missouri born and bred. He’s says hoot too.
That baby really wanted her mommy at first! Just Beautiful!!!And They Way Her young mother played with her as Well❤
So youre upset that the governments conservation efforts are working as they should. Ok
Nona the Dermatologist & Optometrist.
Love how mom you can tell she's thinking "oh geeze this kid" 😅 it's cute though ❤
Thank you for sharing Nona's story, it was touching and I feel like I know why she always has sad eyes. I was wondering when you can share the story of Vivy and Spotty? I am so curious to know how that other troop is involved and so baffled as to how they could both leave their babies while still so young. Hopefully soon you will have time to share it with us, thanks 💞💞💞💞
They are all beautiful ❤
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So you can read the minds of primates, you know what they are feeling?? Did they find the skeletal remains?
I think Nona was studying to be an Optometrist!
I just loved it when Nona was using a stick on her mother's eyes 😂😂❤ ..mom was so patient with her ... I would have liked her to have lived a long life with many babies.. Della
I understand wanting to control the population but, I wish they'd just relocate them instead of taking away their livelihood. 😔
It's obvious she is depressed and sad.
And it seemed as tho she was 1/2 a step beyond "just being a monkey", with her ophthalmology skills 🤓, and her esthetician skills💆🏼♀️🧖🏼♀️
Meaning, there is something extraordinary about Nona.
A week of studying her and studying moms of little ones would make it apparent to those that tattoo them.
When you said in the very beginning about uncertainty of babysitter at the time, my gut said Bo 😩. Nova seemed too old for Bo to take when she went missing but, I guess it's possible. I'm not feeling it went that way tho.
My heart breaks for Nona. If I had a baby monkey, I'd seek her out to be the baby's' only babysitter! 😢
It seems a traumatic injury of some sort would be cause, due to her age(nova)
@@yvonneconte3040 I'm thinking the same 😔
So sad for the Mama.😢😢😢
What does the tattoo say? What does the character mean/say?
Means she got caught & sterilized. ☹️
I suspect, and this is only an opinion, that the symbol or character chosen, relates to the day in which the procedure was done. Don't forget that measurements and pictures would also have been taken of the monkey as a record for zoological reasons. However, it could also mean, simply, that the monkey has been neutered.
So sad that this loving families blood line has ended as far as the females go.
Oh, man the stick around the eyes is making me very nervous. My sister was blinded in one eye at 4 y/o from something poking her eye.
Oh how awful!
Ouch, that's horrible 😢
Love the grooming tools 😂
Etf happened
I know there are packs of dogs running rampant throughout the park could they be killing the little ones? Why are they not being sterilized?
VOs killed the baby
Find it odd if this little one got hit by a car someone would of found blood or body laying next to the road. Weird none go missing overnight just when the VO's "are not around "
I watch all your programs for you care about the monkeys.
Wow, they are all so nice and loving to each other, more then most...Redding is a loving, good mom.. but this famili is beautiful to each other.
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How does a perfectly healthy baby like nova come up missing in a short period of time. She seemed big enough to get around on her own . What natural predators live in the park too?
that Predator happens to be bow
Are you freaking kidding me after the babies been kidnapped all day and finally gets to be with her mother she literally gives her a cute little kiss on the face. It’s the cutest thing I’ve ever seen in my life.
😱Bo!!!!!
😢
ahhhh now i remember Nona....makes it even more heartbreaking.
Honestly Mr AM I think this has to be THE saddest video you 've posted, and there have been some doozies of late.
I understand the program to cut back on to many babies, but surely it would be better to ask the people who document these troups what kind of mother these individuals are
I've never seen anything like that she's amazing I've always felt so sorry for her
Isn't Bo the one that causes alot of baby issues in the group?
I believe in sterization but only certain ones....the bad ones...why would they sterilized a young one...and such a good mother?? Like whomever mentioned above me...they should ask before they sterilize....ask the people that actually know these monkeys. This story is SO sad.
That was a Beautiful and Sad story ❤😢🙏🏻
Do they spay or tubal ligation?
That is up to the vets on the day of the procedure.
Nona’s story is heartbreaking and cruel. Such a bright sweet girl having her purpose and love stripped away so young just isn’t right. Humans suck. 😢
15:13 Patience like I've never witnessed before 😂
These sterilisation processes must be stopped, its not necessary, so many babies make the first year not!😢
How can you determine that? Do you really get enough information through some videos on TH-cam to know whether or not it is necessary to have a sterilization program for these macaques??? Thanks for replying! 🤗 ❤🩷🧡
Hello there! Look up the stats of how many infants survive to one year. It's unbelievable! These are rhesus macaques. ;)@@lottatroublemaker6130
Hello there! Look up the stats on how many macaques do not make it to one year..it's unbelievable and sad! These are rhesus macaques. ;)@@lottatroublemaker6130
You need to direct your concerns to the Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Dept, within the Government of HK SAR.They have a web site and a Facebook Page. so I expect there will be an email address somewhere.
Its really sad when a mother has so much love to give but is denied a baby.
It does make you wonder if you tried showing one of the babies how do use a comb and then gave it to them if they would try using it. I don’t think they would use it every day but if they would try emulating what you were doing.
I’ve been waiting for this story.
Such a sweet intelligent monkey
Large Butterflies.
Don't you know it really made Nona feel good that day she asked you for help with Nova and you followed her to check out the situation. Nona is such a sad story, her baby died and then she got the damn tatoo.
Nona❤
These babies who disappear makes me wonder if many fall from trees.
No one
Not one fall from trees?
@@runedharma22 never. They JUMP from trees
Many babies are killed by humans
@@АннаМ-б4и So an errant jump kills them?
Utterly cruel. More of man’s derogatory interference in nature. 😡
Oh no, a sad one…?
Hi Pam
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Hi sweetheart
@@debvit2353how are you luv?
@@ickydeerlamb2823I’m hanging in there. Been so busy. We are selling our condo and buying a house. I really hate packing!! How are you hun?
Hi sweet lady.😊
@@debvit2353 it's rough. It's getting more unsafe here by the day.
Hey, are you the same guy that did the story of Stormy, the bb monkey?
That's JW
@@gabriellaalvarado616 Correct. JW is a different cameraman or woman that videos on Monkey Hill in HK. There are a number of others.
Did a person kill her baby?
Could have been road kill, or a fatal fall.
I need bossy troop if it's too much for you im good i appreciate all you've let me realize ❤
Nona is exceptionally clever. 💗💗💗💗
AM, You know who took her? Can you possibly get her back?
It was several years ago.
There's only one explanation when a baby that age disappears like that...Nova surely died an accidental death, most likely hit by car.
@@hollisblinn7910 I often wonder if they fall out it trees back in the forest.
@@PamPreston78 they don't usually fall at that age. They're very adept at climbing by then, but anything is possible. A weak branch could give way, or rough play could cause a fall to happen. Usually, though, it's the tinier babies who die from a fall due to a careless mother, a kidnapping situation, etc.
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I’ve seen mommas use that type of “tool” when they’re trying to wean the baby onto solids. They’ll put something edible right up to the eye. lol. So precious. Love my monkeys.
But to me, it looks like she’s doing a monkey version of an eye exam 😂
pft hahahahaha
Do the mom’s sometimes know what happened to their babies even if the humans don’t know?
I'm sure they do in most cases. They are usually close to the babies, so if one has a bad fall they are around. I'm sure stuff happens in the thick of trees, and of course AM can only see what happens when he visits.
If a baby gets an infection the mum will know something is wrong, and the bay is dying but probably won't understand what an infection is 😢
@@Danceswithfishes the stats are: 20% of babies die in the first 6 months from birth from: accidents, malnutrition or a infection. This increases to 32% after 6 months when the babies become more independent from their mothers. This info comes from one of the research papers, based on field studies, viewable online, that has been pier reviewed. Also road kill and fatal falls are high on the list. AM did video on this its called Q&A retained placenta and infant mortality, it's on his Arroz Marisco channel. He analyses the baby deaths on a year by year basis in the troops he videos, in HK. The only (sad) down side is that after a few days a mum will abandon her dead babies body, and certainly that was the case with Stormy videoed by JW, Stormy died from an infection, back in Nov 2021, IIRC. His mum in the end abandoned his remains at the base of the Kowloon Reservoir Dam on Golden Hill Road. I have to say that the Cambodian cameramen, at least bury a dead baby's body, and there are long protracted videos of this.
Quite query Nona's sterilization is being made at so young age，different from others comparative older🤔。And query why don't relocate Bo？🤔
Oh, my...the pain in those beautiful eyes.
Non-human primates have to have the capability to feel emotions. We can see the sadness in Nona's eyes plain and clear. That's emotion in full display.
Sadly we now know that Bo was a bigger killer of babies than any car on the road.🥺 Not through malice but that very strong urge to be a mother they all have. The human intervention via sterilization has taken away the hope of so many and inadvertently turned some into baby killers. Not that those running the sterilization program give a damn.😡 Ever since I started watching in 2016 I have been heartbroken for these poor females who have had their purpose in life taken from them.😔
Thank you for telling their story Arroz.🙏
You have no clue! They overpopulated the area. There are to many of them!
❤❤❤ Thank you for sharing another wonderful story ❤❤❤
Population control at Monkey Hill is rough. Are there other ways?
Y can't they keep the good family's together
like Nona's
Nona is such a good mother she's beautiful as well, I know her pain and its the worst pain I've ever felt I lost nine early miscarriages and the heart break and depression is horrible. I'm Sorry Nona 🕊️
Nona for sure was trying to get your help. Lowina sure as hell wasn't goin to do anything. She just there not good or bad..useless really. Poor Nona was distraught and wanted someone to listen and help. I've watched since your beginning and your hands down the best monkey channel on TH-cam. I would love to see you recognized for it. A model for other channels to follow. Some are horrible and I always feel like I can't do a thing to help.
I feel so sad for them, when their purpose is to raise babies for the troop, they look so lost 😔
That’s so sad . Humans interfering with the monkey families . Next it will be done with humans .
That is so damn cruel. Y don't they pick on mothers like Nora who should not have a baby.omg so sad.
I so so 😡 ïat those people that keep taking the monkeys and taking they life away from them cuz having babies that's there life😢 . they need to stop doing this to they'd poor monkey .
That's so sad they killed the blood line, that is so messed up the sadness in her eyes.made me cry for her and her family 😢😢
Nona looks dejected at losing Nova, who survived only a few years. How heartbreaking. Exactly how did Nova meet her end? 🙊🙈
I think Nova was young. Maybe not even a year? Possibly a road accident? Strange the feeders didn't report on it though.
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Очень потрясающий репортаж. Прочитал комментарии и почему-то никто не допустил идеи, что Нона жива и что ее просто забрали люди. Т.е. возможно есть небольшая надежда, что Нона жива! И почему ее должно не стать? Ведь ее просто нет там, но это не значит, что ее нет вообще... я надеюсь по крайней мере! Что касается стерилизации, то у меня двоякое мнение! Ведь многие столетия их никто не стерелизировал! А теперь должно быть они могут вымерут, если не давать им размножаться! Спасибо!
I think you mean "Nova", that is the little monkey that disappeared. "Nona" is the mother. "Nana" is the grandmother.
16: 0-это обезьяна, видимо, была в прежней жизни окулистом. И за какие-то её провинности сделали обезьяной. И теперь она лечит глаза своим собратьям.
In mountain hill the best area for monkeys people shouldn’t interfere ever
Can they reverse the sterilization? This is such a disruption of life’s energy.
If it's anything like cat sterilization - then no 😞
It is sad why do they sterilize mothers to be. Is that not cruel.
Yea, see that really upsets me. The people in that do the sterilizing have to kno there r plenty of different feeders etc. they could talk to, actually, SHOULD talk to before just grabbing any old female an doing that to them, give them the ones that r god awful mothers, what kind of sense does that make? Show of hands if u agree the answer is totally Gypsy, between Nona an Gypsy, who should be the one to be sterilized? No doubt gypsy, she's an absolutely terrible mother. Also, Nora, I'm so tired of seeing her treat her babys so cruelly u til they die, an u can not tell me she doesn't kno what she's doing. She is fully aware
It's just so unfair and sad!
She looks so and lost my heart bleeds with her and their family.😭😭😭
They need a consultant to research the troops before they sterilize any macaque. They should talk to yo A.M.!
Sad story!