The Son of Achilles Goes to Troy (Neoptolemus/Pyrrhus) - The Trojan War Saga Ep 32 -See U in History

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  • @panoskamp4324
    @panoskamp4324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    Neoptolemus is one I was the most hyped for in the Troyjan war. He is almost always neglected and forgotten, but I hoped you would bring him up. And you never disappoint.

    • @juanjosehernandezgil8036
      @juanjosehernandezgil8036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Although Neoptolemus is neglected and forgotten, it is said that Neoptolemus assassinated King Priam during the taking of the city after the strategy of the hollow Trojan horse, it is said that Priam tried to defend himself by wielding weapons but his wife Ecuba dissuaded him and took him to a altar of the palace to commend himself to the gods there Neoptolemus grabbed him by the hair and he cut his neck leaving his corpse unburied, an alternate version tells that Neoptolemus took Priam to the tomb of his father Achilles and there Neoptolemus killed him last Trojan king.

    • @redspirit5885
      @redspirit5885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      i felt bad for priam, his last son died and his favorite son's baby was murdered too then that baby was used as a instrument or weapon to club him to death in old age

  • @jimmyc2223
    @jimmyc2223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Odysseus: Hey kid, do you want to finish your father's work?
    Pyrrhus: Ok.

  • @RumbleTheEchidnaTheDragonChamp
    @RumbleTheEchidnaTheDragonChamp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    That is what I call a grand entrance and I’m sure Achilles would be proud of his son Neoptolemus

    • @juanjosehernandezgil8036
      @juanjosehernandezgil8036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Although Neoptolemus is neglected and forgotten, it is said that Neoptolemus assassinated King Priam during the taking of the city after the strategy of the hollow Trojan horse, it is said that Priam tried to defend himself by wielding weapons but his wife Ecuba dissuaded him and took him to a altar of the palace to commend himself to the gods there Neoptolemus grabbed him by the hair and he cut his neck leaving his corpse unburied, an alternate version tells that Neoptolemus took Priam to the tomb of his father Achilles and there Neoptolemus killed him last Trojan king.

  • @pseudomonas03
    @pseudomonas03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Neoptolemus in Greek means Νέος Π(τ)όλεμος i.e. the New Warrior. He was called also Pyrrhus from his auburn hair which resembled the fire (Πυρα=fire in Greek). Neoptolemus/Pyrrhus after the Trojan War, moved to Epirus, and founded the Molossian Kingdom, which took the name from Neoptolemus's son, Molossus, who became the founder of the Aeacidae Dynasty of Epirus (with both Pyrrhus and Alexander the Great, being descendents). Excellent video again! Can"t wait for the return of Philoctetes with the Bow of Heracles (a story in which Neoptolemus had a significant role),and the death of Paris.

    • @timeless4ever178
      @timeless4ever178 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      amazing info here I had just seen the 1957 film of Alexander the Great 👍

  • @aubreyyoung6664
    @aubreyyoung6664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The Trojan war is just getting better and better keep it coming you are doing great. 👍🏻

  • @pikminfan14
    @pikminfan14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This series has been absolutely FIRE 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @HetviPatel-zq5uh
    @HetviPatel-zq5uh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Like father like son: A boy’s first hero is his dad.( Achilles and Pyrrhus ).😇❤

    • @juanjosehernandezgil8036
      @juanjosehernandezgil8036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Although Neoptolemus is neglected and forgotten, it is said that Neoptolemus assassinated King Priam during the taking of the city after the strategy of the hollow Trojan horse, it is said that Priam tried to defend himself by wielding weapons but his wife Ecuba dissuaded him and took him to a altar of the palace to commend himself to the gods there Neoptolemus grabbed him by the hair and he cut his neck leaving his corpse unburied, an alternate version tells that Neoptolemus took Priam to the tomb of his father Achilles and there Neoptolemus killed him last Trojan king.

    • @killcounter1587
      @killcounter1587 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@juanjosehernandezgil8036and he killed Polyxenh. She was Achilles lover, and in one version, Agamemnon and Odysseus trapped him in Apollo's temple, thinking he could see Polyxenh. Daughter of Priam. Poor girl

  • @charlesakinyemi812
    @charlesakinyemi812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You guys never disappoint , great job 💯💯

  • @michaeldepinto3562
    @michaeldepinto3562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Achilles Son, this is so Awesome! Odysseus is my Favorite!

  • @panos617
    @panos617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    In the veins of Alexander The Great ran the blood of Heracles from the side of his father Philip the B'. But from his mothers side Olympiada ran the blood of Achilies.
    Alexander The Great have the blood of two Legendary Heroes. Thus why he conquered the World.

    • @prodigalfraudaddy-es1gl
      @prodigalfraudaddy-es1gl หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not the whole world .defeated and not even written more ""than a scramble" with a small border king in the records of indian emperor

  • @michasalamon8315
    @michasalamon8315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    If Odysseus found Achilles when he was 15 and war lasted 10 years. He died being 25/26 years old. If he had Neoptolemus at 16, when the failed expedition to Mysia happened, means that the boy was Just 9 and 13 at most if Achilles did the thing when he was really young. Any way, he looks way older on here.

    • @williamd7161
      @williamd7161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That's what Im thinking. 😑

    • @spencerday2937
      @spencerday2937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      greek heroes always look older then they actually are

    • @willisfernandes2366
      @willisfernandes2366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Achilles became a father when he was just aged 13.

    • @WujuLickMe
      @WujuLickMe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@willisfernandes2366 wait- what?!

    • @vituscorvinus3110
      @vituscorvinus3110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@WujuLickMe when he was 8 in some versions, but all of these numbers are gathered from calculations of different sources because no single source gives you a single timeline. Just ignore it.

  • @phantomeye5199
    @phantomeye5199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    1:26 Wow, his skills are impressive combat moves. Pyrrhus was a great warrior like Achilles.
    1:48 Deja Vu.
    2:48 They think that Achilles is back from the dead and let out powerful battle cry.
    3:40 👏 I can't believe it! Trojan forces are retreated and Greek warrior are cheering for him a new warrior.

    • @milly789
      @milly789 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Neoptolemus did alot of horrible stuff tho

  • @charliemcternan8190
    @charliemcternan8190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Interesting the son of the great warrior Achilles this is gonna be fun

  • @thomaslozano4135
    @thomaslozano4135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep up the most amazing work. 👍

  • @ankomahagnes8845
    @ankomahagnes8845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is great

  • @kobiejot8035
    @kobiejot8035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    For those who read the Song Of Achilles, Pyrrhus may have a little different impression 😅

    • @juanjosehernandezgil8036
      @juanjosehernandezgil8036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Although Neoptolemus is neglected and forgotten, it is said that Neoptolemus assassinated King Priam during the taking of the city after the strategy of the hollow Trojan horse, it is said that Priam tried to defend himself by wielding weapons but his wife Ecuba dissuaded him and took him to a altar of the palace to commend himself to the gods there Neoptolemus grabbed him by the hair and he cut his neck leaving his corpse unburied, an alternate version tells that Neoptolemus took Priam to the tomb of his father Achilles and there Neoptolemus killed him last Trojan king.

    • @autobotfan11
      @autobotfan11 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Song of Achilles is non Greek fan-fiction made by a Garbo shipper

    • @ar4hm4n
      @ar4hm4n 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To me, Song of Achilles is one of the most bizarre books. Madeline Miller claimed she'd taken inspiration from Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, yet I found it hard to relate it.
      (also I couldn't relate it to Virgil's Aeneid either. It looked most likely to be written from an entire different perspective)

  • @miche9611
    @miche9611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So spoke Odysseus to the ghost of Achilles in the Underworld: "Verily of noble Peleus have I heard naught, but as touching thy dear son, Neoptolemus, I will tell thee all the truth, as thou biddest me. [...] All of them I could not tell or name, all the host that he slew in defence of the Argives; but what a warrior was that son of Telephus whom he slew with the sword, the prince Eurypylus! Aye, and many of his comrades, the Ceteians, were slain about him, because of gifts a woman craved." (Homer, Odyssey)
    Later authors said that Eurypylus led an army of Mysians, and not of Ceteians, likely because he was the son of the king of Mysia Telephus. I personally think that this was also because nobody in Greece had an idea about who the Ceteians (Keteioi) were. They were likely the same ones the Egyptians and the Assyrians named "Khatti" and we name Hittites, who were in charge of a powerful empire set in Anatolia during the Late Bronze Age. Notably, the Hittites themselves reported that they were once at war against the Great King of Ahhiyawa for Wilusha, likely meaning they made war against the Achaeans for Ilios/Troy.
    That said, given the fact the sources are not clear what people was lead by Eurypylus at war against the Achaeans, I personally think it is quite understandable that the authors of this wonderful video decided to skip that detail.

  • @OnurTheXbot
    @OnurTheXbot ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Achilles would be so proud of Neoptolemus.

  • @juanjosehernandezgil8036
    @juanjosehernandezgil8036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This third season must already reappear Philoctetes, since a prophecy said that Troy would not fall if the Greek side did not have in their weapons the bow and arrows of Hercules and let us remember that Hercules entrusted Philoctetes with his bow and his quiver of arrows of the blood of Idra of Lerna, and let us remember that in the first episode of the second season the Greeks under the orders of Odysseus abandoned him on the island of Lemnos, if it were not for the weapons of Hercules the wounded Philoctetes would not have been able to defend himself or hunt birds to feed, so in the next chapter Odysseus returned to Lemnos alone or accompanied by Neoptolemus or Diomedes to try to convince Philoctetes to accompany them to Troy.

  • @VoltMagnum
    @VoltMagnum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Odysseus doing side quest

  • @greek1237
    @greek1237 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Trojans did bring the son of Hercules to their side as well. Both duel with Neopoletmus winning. Yeah Euryplaus was the son .

  • @faieziabubakar207
    @faieziabubakar207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Odysseus keep recruiting from achilles family 😅

  • @rxbitvzzinbvztin8730
    @rxbitvzzinbvztin8730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What about Idomeneus (King of Crete), Menestheus (King of Athens), Thoas (King of Aetolia) and Podarces (one of the Princes of Thessaly)? They were really prominent leaders and by some versions reinforced the Achaean Lines around this time along with Pyrrhus and Philoctetes instead of already being present. Please add them I beg you,
    @See U in History / Mythology

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video 👍🏻

  • @sabinramirez2592
    @sabinramirez2592 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Neoptolemus is like his father, Achilles. They made the epic warriors to victory in battle

  • @ghostdragon4164
    @ghostdragon4164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    @0:42 At the very least call him Heracles

    • @corvus9829
      @corvus9829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Hercules" is Herakles in latin, everyone insist in call Aias by his latin name "Ajax" and i dont see complaints about it.

  • @TrinityBlackRoseV
    @TrinityBlackRoseV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Odysseus is carrying the whole war now XD

  • @blast3608
    @blast3608 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video!

  • @ecurewitz
    @ecurewitz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So let me get this straight, Odysseus is the guy that does just about everything to win the Trojan War, yet Achilles is the ‘Greatest Greek Warrior” I’m not sure about that

    • @noahbody9875
      @noahbody9875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's just like real life. The brains gets ignored and derided while the jock gets all the credit.

    • @ecurewitz
      @ecurewitz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@noahbody9875 exactly

    • @durrangodsgrief6503
      @durrangodsgrief6503 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ecurewitz no the title is greatest greek warrior is Odysseus a greater warrior than achilles

    • @ecurewitz
      @ecurewitz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@durrangodsgrief6503 that was my point

  • @2freezing
    @2freezing ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Roughly how old was his son? He had to be a teenager at the most since Achilles was more than likely around 30 years old at the time of death.

    • @0daemon
      @0daemon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He would’ve been 13 max

  • @northeasternwoodsman2636
    @northeasternwoodsman2636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    MY NAME IS JEFF

  • @nilotpalsarmahsarma8344
    @nilotpalsarmahsarma8344 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice

  • @russellcolemaniii4207
    @russellcolemaniii4207 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a video about Pyrrhus after the war

  • @lordofbamfs-3941
    @lordofbamfs-3941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonder what the background music is?

  • @jerneymantel7826
    @jerneymantel7826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If “the song of Achilles” gets a sort of second book, I hope they write about him. That would be an interesting story

    • @jessnalulila5552
      @jessnalulila5552 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm not sure if this book will get a sequel. 1 book was more than enough to talk about Achilles

  • @amethyst7084
    @amethyst7084 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carry on the great animations and the wonderful re-telling of the myths. Do stick to the Greek names, though. All the other Achaean heroes are known by their Greek names, so lets have the same for Neoptolemus and Heracles. You've thankfully avoided calling Odysseus Ulysses.

  • @MixedRaceAndProud1690
    @MixedRaceAndProud1690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Being greedy I wish these vids were longer 👍

  • @rxbitvzzinbvztin8730
    @rxbitvzzinbvztin8730 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please man add these characters @See U in History / Mythology

  • @SuperAnime4444
    @SuperAnime4444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So that's where Pyrrha (from RWBY) got her name.

    • @kenzgitz9884
      @kenzgitz9884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've actually heard that in some versions of the myth Achilles uses the name Pyrrah when he's disguised as a girl on Skyros

  • @onetruekeeper
    @onetruekeeper ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Achilles’s gay lover died fighting Hector and Achilles took revenge by killing Hector. Did not know Achilles had a wife and son. Misnamed Hector as Agamemnon in deleted post. These ancient names confuse me.

    • @milly789
      @milly789 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In og greek mythology, achilles and patroclus werent lovers. However, these are stories. Interpret them however you please.

  • @rechannel864
    @rechannel864 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Olympia the mother of alexander came from this line

  • @onetruekeeper
    @onetruekeeper ปีที่แล้ว

    Achilles don’t seem the type to get married and have a kid. He was more interested in fighting and war.

    • @jessnalulila5552
      @jessnalulila5552 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well considering that Achilles in myth was interested in Iphigenia, Briseis, Penthesilea, Polyxena, Hemithea and had a son with Deidamia it's fair to assume he wouldn't mind relationships

  • @littlewitcherworld
    @littlewitcherworld 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If he was four years old when Achilles was recruted, that means... THIS MF WAS 14 WOW

  • @saltandpearls
    @saltandpearls 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Neoptolemus is hot af ngl 😋

  • @jadenbediako8066
    @jadenbediako8066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Neoptolemus is one character i hate because of what he going to do to Hector's family...his wife and son.

  • @depressedhamburger4880
    @depressedhamburger4880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    heracles, not hercules

  • @forest_blerta5488
    @forest_blerta5488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    pirro❤🖤

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Πύρρος ελληνικό όνομα 😉😘

  • @danieldesalles3138
    @danieldesalles3138 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if Achilles type runs in the family 🙄

  • @thomasiiilacs1355
    @thomasiiilacs1355 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NEPTOLEMUS??? YOU MEAN GOHAN ??? HAHAHAH

  • @babaroga1192
    @babaroga1192 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wasn’t Pyrrhus only 13 when Odysseus brought him to Troy

    • @milly789
      @milly789 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Depends on the version u read. There are loads.

  • @YamiKaiba
    @YamiKaiba 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How old was Achilles's son?

    • @vituscorvinus3110
      @vituscorvinus3110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don not search for any coherent timeline. No single source talks about everything so by scraping sources together you get that Achilles was 8 when he had his first child.

    • @jessnalulila5552
      @jessnalulila5552 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was probably 14

  • @alexrahardjazh
    @alexrahardjazh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Son of Achilles slain the grqndson of Heracles

  • @YOMONREBEL
    @YOMONREBEL 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    weird I read hector n them was swarty and achilles.... so this is kinda realistic the story anyway

  • @kratoscraken5614
    @kratoscraken5614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Odysseus never wrote or spoke of a son 🤔

  • @emperorrasheed4177
    @emperorrasheed4177 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does Hector not have a son? Cuz I really liked Hector it’s crazy how they don’t mention him much anymore

    • @durrangodsgrief6503
      @durrangodsgrief6503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      His son is a baby

    • @pyrix9569
      @pyrix9569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hector and Andromache had a son, Astyanax, but he is a little boy at this time.

    • @FamilyHistoriandude
      @FamilyHistoriandude ปีที่แล้ว

      Hectors son was murdered as an infant.

  • @freezusvikin6778
    @freezusvikin6778 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish to help with the youtube channel as a voice actor if you guys are accepting people

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    @dioklis888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @shagunchambyal8549
    @shagunchambyal8549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    First 💫

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    @dhilipsrihari3098 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @joanacifre9169
    @joanacifre9169 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn’t he like 12 when he goes to troy?

    • @milly789
      @milly789 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Depends on the version u read. But he def wasnt an adult

  • @martintinajero9140
    @martintinajero9140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if Achilles son will take the woman that his father had as his wife.

    • @michaeldepinto3562
      @michaeldepinto3562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm not Positive on this but I think he takes Hector's Wife.

    • @durrangodsgrief6503
      @durrangodsgrief6503 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaeldepinto3562 as a concubine

  • @ChristianZavala-u2k
    @ChristianZavala-u2k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whoever said Achilles was gay watches to much gay 🌽

  • @mrscanners.8888
    @mrscanners.8888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great videos people, keep them going, just a idea, turn this into like a motion film, give all the characters voices too, be even more epic!!!!!! , I Watched this similar thing, called 'The blood of Zeus'. This would also be great if made like a film with these graphics !!!!!

  • @taraishot100
    @taraishot100 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see that they replaced this with patrocales in the Brad Pitt Troy movie

  • @gajendrarathore7152
    @gajendrarathore7152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Didn't