The Decline of Pan Am...What Happened?
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- For years, Pan Am was one of the largest and most respected airlines in existance. They were there early on and revolutionized the entire industry. As of 1991, they no longer exist. This video takes a look at the airline and attempts to explain what happened?
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The Decline of Pan Am (show) would've been amazing April fools joke
MrLollipopfly That'd be an amazing video, because it was a great show until the last 3 episodes.
Too much shit going on, too much wasted talent, not enough realism. Kate/Colette were the best. Ricci was great, but not well cast. And the plots weren't very good
Never heard of the Pan Am Show.
I would do almost anything to get them back.
My father retired from Pan Am in 1977 as Chief Pilot. He flew as a captain for 36 years, and on the 747 since its introduction. I was fortunate to make two of his last flights to Rome before his retirement. I sat in the cockpit for takeoffs and landings and was treated like royalty by the flight crew. I'm 72 now, but will always have proud memories of my pilot Pop.
Who was that, Nikon?
Youre 72?wow
Aeroflot 583 was the incident
If it was a flight right before his father’s retirement, doesn’t that put his age more in adult range than a little kid though?
Btw, great story. Thank you for sharing.
siralan - I had not heard about the incident to which you refer. I wasn't allowed near the controls, but sat in the "jump seat" located just to the rear of the captains seat.
When I hear Pan Am I always think of the movie "Catch Me If You Can".
For me, The Aviator
G K same, Frank Abignale pretending to be a pilot for them lol
Yeah, Exactly!
Afraid of Corona !!!
When I think of Pan Am I think of the plane crash near where I live and how Gaddafi blew one of their planes up.
The two people who disliked didn't make it past the intro...
4*
Chuck Keough I disliked when he said Pan Am had the first jets
Dubsy 102 why? Is that wrong?
A youtube channel yes, the first was BOAC with the De Havilland Comet, in 1952. Pan Am didn't even operate that type
Dubsy 102 okay that's cool to know! Thanks!
PAN-AM...America's most prestigious Airline...People still remember it !!!
Mohd Mubashir Ahmed people associated with it are still around Mohd.
My dad retired from Pan Am after 32 years of service. I remember as a kid the trips we took, always on Pan Am, except when we had to visit family in Ohio because Pan Am had no domestic routes. There was nothing like flying Pan Am in those days. Since Dad already had almost 20 years of service when Pan Am started flying the 747 we always flew first class. It was amazing, especially for a kid like me. I literally broke down in tears when I read that Pan Am had folded. No airline could, or ever will be able to match the service of Pan Am and their flight crews.
I’ll bet your father knew one of my old squadron commanders, who also flew for Pan Am. I’m currently a 747 captain as well.
My parents loved Pan AM. We too all cried.
I agree; But Jet Blue is pretty nice, I’ve found! :)
I'd like to see you make a video predicting who you think are the companies that won't be around 5-10 years from now. Businesses beyond the obvious like a Kmart which already has one foot in the grave.
bump
DirtCrak AOL and Yahoo have been recently purchased by Verizon and being rebranded under the new name of "Oath"
Maybe tesla.
yeah I said it.
DirtCrak Verizon paid a 10th of what Microsoft had offered. Msft is booming and they must be happy they never took on that mess.
DirtCrak it will be interesting to see what happens with Comcast cable business as we go towards streaming. 5g should eliminate the need to be tethered to them.
On my lunch break and couldn’t be more pleased to see a new Company Man video. I love this channel, keep it up.
Exactly the same here!
Me too. :D
Have a good lunch break!
Appreciate it NT.
Same I look forward to see these videos during my lunch break. Keep it up!!!!
I flew Pan Am, first class, on my honeymoon trip to the Caribbean. Since then I have flown all over the world many times. The best flight I ever had was that Pan Am trip.
I had a ticket on Pan Am in September 1989 from Chicago to Frankfurt. When I showed up at O'Hare on the appointed day, there was no one in line at the ticket counter. Turns out that in the months since I had bought my ticket, Pan Am had reduced its schedule, and no longer flew the route from ORD to FRA! (Because I had bought the ticket through a consolidator, word of the change hadn't reached me.) They put me on a plane to JFK the next day, and from there I got on a Pan Am 747 to Frankfurt, arriving one day late. Despite having a cheap ticket, when I boarded at JFK I found that I had been upgraded, and got to sit "upstairs" in business class! Luxury!
Was it worth it? XD
@@greyblueme9711 *Pan Am was **_always_** worth it! I always paid extra to fly them, and I was happy to do it!*
I'm 36. I remember when the MetLife Building in NYC used to be the Pan Am Building.. I thought that was so cool lol
The number one mistake was selling the pacific routes to United Airlines. UA had two daily flights between NYC and Tokyo. The second flight was a reconfigured 747-400 that was almost all premium seats. They served champagne out of a keg. It was rumored that the flight made $500k every time it took flight. It was always full. But Pan Am had terribly excessive business practices. My mom(who worked for them as a Stewardess) told me they had so much expense on catering, free pens and flashlights. She never had to carry her suit case because the porter would bring it to the door, the uniforms were measured and tailored individually, and instead of all riding a crew bus to the hotel, they were each given individual hired cars. And this is the late 70’s/early 80’s. And that Park Avenue building....oh where do we start. Did you know the former president of Pan Am’s daughter became the queen of Jordan?
Queen Rania? wooooooooow!!!!!!
These videos are very informative and they honestly give me good topics when I don't know what else to say in a conversation. For example, I've brought up Nestle so many times to people since learning what all they make lol.
Jeremy Lewis lol I do it too. Lol
My first airline flight was in 1970 on a Pan Am 707 from San Francisco - Honolulu - Tokyo. The Stewardess, who was my mother’s friend, gave my sister and I wings and during the flight, took us to the flight deck to meet the pilot, co-pilot and engineer. We where given all the ice cream and Coke we wanted. I remember how bright the lights were in Tokyo after the black of the Pacific.
to* to* stewardess* were*
*edited comment kek*
That had be fun
The mere Memory of Pan Am stirs up the joys of flying abroad, possibly the BEST Airline in the heyday of 60'70' then along comes 'Mr Cheapskate' and he and his fellows are served by what I call 'Mickey Mouse' Airlines, usually run by Accountants, who's objective is 'Saving the company' money' . The attitude and expectations of today's people is very poor indeed, they want a free ride almost and then they complain about the food, the service, the seats, well guess what....You get exactly what you pay for. Pan Am went, as did a few other great airlines. Now you are stuck with 'Cattle Air Inc'.,
I remember my cousin bought Pan Am stock before they closed He said they’d never go out of business. Ha ha
You forgot about the worst aircraft accident in history when a KLM 747 collided into an innocent Pan Am 747 in March 1977 on the island of Tenerife, Canary Islands killing 584 people.
wasn't their fault and I doubt it contributed to much of their decline.
If anything, the Lockerbie bombing was the final nail in the coffin for them.
mmarlkraig30 the crash killed 583 people.
Giordan Diodato There's still the association. When your airline name comes up whenever talking about the worst aircraft accident, it doesn't help.
10INTM so we should also say something about Pan Am 759 as well?
I blame the KLM plane and air traffic control for that incident
I was like, "Yay! A story on Pan Am!" I am 52. Makes sense. I remember them being bought up by Delta.
nab 6215 they went bankrupt. There wasn't a merger but Delta may have bought some of their assets though.
The relationship with Delta was a puzzler. Some people will say that Delta promised things and reneged, just in order to get the pacific routes, iirc. Others will say that they just bought the part. What would have happened if it had been a true merger and it had survived?
nab 6215 northwest got bought up by delta
Northwest was another good airline to fly...
Meeker Extreme As a kid I flew on Northwest Orient 727's a few times. I was traveling alone and I remember the cabin crew taking me for frozen yogurt during a layover. I also got to visit the flight deck during and after the flight. Air travel was a lot different then.
Back in the mid 70's, I remember myself and my whole family sending off my grandma at the then Manila International Airport for her 747 Pan Am flight to the U.S. I remember her looking like Imelda Marcos. Back then people really dressed up for their flights. I also remember how amazed I was as a small child being so close to the behemoth Pan Am 747. That scene is still very vivid in my mind. I will be forever an aviation fan.
Well Pan Am seemed to have the absolute worst luck after 1973.
Yeah. Makes you wonder how many execs did the window jump during that time...
Jacob's Channel He forgot to mention the Tenerife airport disaster which was heavily blamed on Pan Am even though I️t was mostly KLM.
Exactly, I was expecting them to mention the Tenerife disaster
They did seem like a "lightning rod" for misfortune. Nowadays it seems United inherited that mantle.
Heh the torch of unluckiness lives on
One major thing you forgot to touch on was the profound effect that political bias had on Pan Am's performance during the regulation era. Under Johnson and Nixon's administration, Continental, United, American Airlines, TWA, and Delta were granted permission to operate both domestic AND international routes by the Civil Aeronautics Board, whereas Pan Am was restricted to flying ONLY internationally. By the time the deregulation act had been passed in 1978, Pan Am was far more strategically disadvantaged than other major competitors because it had no domestic presence or hub-and-spoke system to speak of.
Very true! Pan Am was America's "flag carrier" while TWA was an "also ran" across the Atlantic with a domestic route structure. The others didn't really have any international destinations (except Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean) until after deregulation and Pan Am's sale of routes. American, United, Eastern, and the like fed Pan Am. The only domestic routes I remember were JFK/LAX, MIA, SFO, and ORD. There might have been more but not substantial nor systematic.
Ah, I remember passenger flights before deregulation. The comfort, services and amenities made flying a joy. I still have some airline cutlery from my collection. (I used to pinch a piece from each flight with meal service) The only people I remember consistently complaining on flights were non-smokers, because the air could get a bit thick.
You should do a video on Sears!
Redmond Didn't he already?
I second Sears!
He did K-Mart
Sears Airlines?
Sears Canada at least, and how that could foreshadow Sears Holdings' future downfall.
At 5:07 you can see three engines on the Boeing 747. This is unusual as usually there are 2 engines on each wing. The inner most engine is actually being transported to another plane with a broken engine , as at the time that was the quickest way to do it. The more you know!
oh woah, thanks i was wondering about that!
Nice catch. Never seen that before.
Still happens to this day. Here's an article about Qantas doing it in 2016: www.flightradar24.com/blog/how-qantas-ferried-an-engine-on-the-wing-of-a-747/
I was born in Scotland in 1984, quickly finding my love of commercial aviation at a very young age. Pan Am was everywhere, on our TV screens, billboards in cities and I was incredibly lucky to see one of their iconic Jumbo Jets roar into the sky at London Heathrow as a child. I was in awe of them! I knew then that I was to aspire to growing up into a job in commercial aviation!
Then Lockerbie changed everything, not only did it expose the fact that Pan Am was not conducting the correct baggage reconciliation procedures, which if done properly, would have resulted in that bag not being loaded onto the flight as there was no ticketed passenger to accompany it, leaving that bag to explode in a baggage area at Heathrow. Now airline security is what it is today, brought about by Lockerbie and the various horrendous acts of crime and terror that followed, most notably, the terrible and unforgettable acts on September the 11th of 2001.
I became a Flight Attendant in 2008 at the age of 24, having found that the costs of becoming a commercial airline pilot were just unjustifiable. I had the smarts but I didn’t have the funds! I’d have been paying for my tuition for the rest of my life! But the ridiculous costs involved with aviation are absolutely destructive to any airline company nowadays, the main reason why we will never see the quality in service of the 1950’s to the 1970’s on long haul trips ever again! Which is a shame indeed!
I started my flying career for the “Pan Am” of the UK, Virgin Atlantic Airways and I was a career Flight Attendant for them for 10 years, and what fun I had. I left in 2017 when crazily rising costs and a joint ownership deal came into place that began destroying the family feel and Cabin service of the airline. On the day I handed back my uniform, walking outside and seeing one of our jets roaring into the sky, I cried, knowing that I had made the right decision but having never wanted to leave in the first place. Fast forward 8 months and I am now flying for another carrier and I have regained my love of the job at heart again.
I have never liked goodbyes and I have never believed in looking back, I find that counterproductive. But I do fondly remember, Pan Am is a memory that took me to where I am today. And that “Ladies and Gentlemen” is worth its weight in gold!
Happy travels to you all!
I hate to tell you, but that baggage practice has never been fixed. We missed a flight in Jan 2020 to Las Vegas from DFW and yet our bags flew. American Airlines returned them the next day, but they allowed 2 suitcases to fly that had no passenger to go with them.
I was on a PanAm flight back when I was 2 in 1987. I, obviously, don't remember anything about it but, my mother says that I enjoyed visiting the cockpit and getting a pair of pilot wings.
That happened a lot before 9/11 changed the rules.
perv
@@user-zv8qg1co4z yes in the free world it is still allowed.. 😉😁
I think you forgot one big thing about deregulation. Before deregulation, Pan Am wasn’t allowed to fly domestic flights (except to Hawaii and Alaska), while almost every other US airline wasn’t allowed to fly international flights. But after deregulation, the rest of the US airlines were allowed to fly international; but, the other US carriers were afraid that Pan Am would use its clout to effectively take over the domestic market. So, the other carriers successfully lobbied congress to heavily restrict Pan Am in the domestic market while allowing the other airlines to launch international flights with little to no regulation. So after a few years, Pan Am decided to acquire a domestic airline, so they tried to buy National Airlines; but they ended up getting into a bidding war with another airline that no longer exists, and they ended up paying way more for National than it was actually worth. And on top of that, it became readily apparent afterwards that National didn’t have enough traffic at Pan Am’s main international hubs in New York, LA, San Francisco, and Miami to feed a sufficient amount of traffic into Pan Am’s international flights. But they ended up paying so much for National that they couldn’t afford to fix the situation. And on top of all that, along with the disasters you mentioned, along with them being involved in the Tenerife Airport disaster just before deregulation in 1977, and also having another major accident in New Orleans and a separate terrorist incident within a few months of each other in 1982 during that rough merger period didn’t do them any favors either.
Yea i have read that PAN AM lobbied the US government to establish themselves the 'chosen instrument' for international flights. TWA fought hard to keep its transatlantic routes, while American Overseas sold off their transpacific rights to Pan AM.
Yea i have read that PAN AM lobbied the US government to establish themselves the 'chosen instrument' for international flights post WWII. TWA fought hard to keep its transatlantic routes, while American Overseas sold off their transpacific rights to Pan AM.
Look what happened as a result, Many 'Mickey Mouse' airlines arose and were to fall, maintenance was a forgotten word, numerous crashes caused by poor inadequate Navigational equipment, Radar and allied NDB'S not to mention the state of American Air Traffic Control with its low staff to task ratios, poor pay and the massive increase in Air Traffic. US Government of the day was in a daze obviously, distracted by its Vietnam Debacle which cost America thousands of good men and women.
National was an incredible airline. I remember we had to dress up to fly. You didn't fly looking like a bum.
anwalborn:you're correct regarding the 'other airlines' however, Pan Am Worked for the position they held, whilst the 'new comers', i.e Mickey Mouse cheap and nasty airlines, 'take a box to sit on' have had everything given on a plate which certain governments regard as being Fair Go.Juan Trippe wouldn't believe what's happened.
I joined Eastern Airlines back in 1967 and was very well aware of Pan Am. I use to fly on the a lot on passes we would get from them and part of our travel agreements. They were a great airline and has a lot of class ! Something the airlines don't have today ! Eastern finally went bankrupt in 1991, then PA followed. Back then flying was pure pleasure !
@nature2rule the passengers are class-less, rude and demanding.
I was a child when all these people smoked but we were fed and had room in the seat, never got sick. I get nasal problems after being stuffed in these cattle cars today with screaming children(real terrorists) kicking the seat, running up and down the aisle plus throwing things at other passengers while their adult does nothing to contol or correct that behavior.
And everybody is allergic to everything, damn whiny asses.
And I'm not even going to start on the behavior of TSA to passengers.
Now there are stupid trashy airlines such as Allegiant and Spirit
I remember! When! People didn't! abuse exclamation points!
I almost left because I thought you were talking about the show. Don't do that again.
Red Burtley same haha
ikr
Haha same here.
If he’d gone another 10 seconds longer.... lol
My cursor was about 1/2" away from clicking out of here.
I talked to a delta flight attendant who used to work for pan am. We talked for about 30 minutes in the air, and it was one of the most interesting conversation i have had with a flight attendant. She had told me that her time with pan am was one of the best she had experienced as a flight attendant. She said pan am existed in a time where people took pride in air travel. People would dress in their best suits when they flew. She looked out in the cabin as she was telling me about how people now just wear shorts and flip flops when they fly. She talked about the in-flight service and how meals would be served and how comfortable passengers were. I do wish that air travel would go back to what it used to be.
Do you wish to pay the prices of years past?
The flight attendants didn't see the ticket prices.
I wish society would go back to what it used to be
Those were the times air travel was special. Ppl who flew felt special abt themselves. Air travel is nothing special. It is just commute from here to there. To be honest, air travel still is overpriced and overglam. Need to get it cheaper and normalised. If I can wear shorts in bus or train then why not flight.
Air travel not is like taking a bus...just fewer stops.
Since I was born in 1970 and flew frequently, I’m very familiar with Pan Am & flew with them at least a dozen times. In my opinion, your Analysis is pretty much spot-on. Pan Am simply imploded due death of a thousand cuts. Pity since they were a magnificent airline.
Way to make me feel old for existing at the same time as Pan Am 😂 Also, I watched the TV show and would have been happy for a review of that as well!
Yeah same here I know what Pan Am is, flew on them and used to have the Pan Am plane models you would get FREE from the pilot along with wings. I remember getting to visit many cockpits of Pan Am planes. Service was always top notch. It sure beats flying now on "budget" airlines but they are not really a budget once you pay for bags, seats with room and get a drink or snack...LOL Too many trailer trash folks flying today.
Back in 1964. I flew from New York City to New York City on Pan Am 1.
We flew on a company "pass" so the "around the world" trip for two only cost us $2800.00.
The early "Clippers" (flying boats) had all been retired but so the radio call signs for all of the Pan Am flights was "ClipperJet+(flight number).
We were able to lay-over in various cities for a day or two, get back on the flight and fly to the next city on our itinerary.
PA-1 flew NYC to NYC, going Westbound and PA-2 flew going Eastbound.
I'll leave it up to your imagination what my new bride and I did in every time zone on PA-1.
"flew from New York City to New York City"
Hmm seems legit but was Pan Am doing around the world trips in the 1960's?
I'm 62, so I remember Traveling on Pan Am. In the film "2001, a Space Odyssey", you had the company running a space shuttle, called "The Space Clipper". It was hard to imagine when the film came out, that in the actual year 2001, Pan Am would be no more.
My hand was literally on my mouse when you stopped the joke.... well played, Company Man.
I never heard of the TV show.
It was shit and didn't even make it a full season. That was like a decade ago.
I immediately knew it was a joke, he doesn’t do videos on tv shows, lol - unless you’re new, how could you not know that?
I thought this was your new series: Movie Man.
Hey Company Man, you forgot to mentioned 'The Coup of the Decade' in 1980 when Pan Am took over National Airlines in response to the Airline Deregulation Act.
Not only it was the greatest merger blunder of all time, it was the beginning of liquidating their signature assets including the famous (or infamous) Pan Am building (now acquired by Met Life). It also didn't help there were numerous corporate clashes.
Unfortunately, yes, Pan Am was responsible for this terrible business decision.
So that's what happened to the Pan Am building. I hadn't been to NYC midtown in years and when I returned I was surprised to see that it was the MetLife building.
Very interesting and pretty spot-on, except for the omission of PanAm's purchase of National Airlines which PanAm grossly overpaid for. At the time, there were international-only airlines like PanAm, TWA, and Northwest Orient and domestic-only airlines like United, American, and Delta. Under deregulation, the only way for an airline like PanAm to break into the domestic market was to purchase an existing airline, like National. On the surface, this made sense as National's domestic routes could feed PanAm's international ones. But a bidding war ensued which PanAm eventually won, but at such a high price that it never made its cost back.
Selling its trans-Pacific routes to United in order concentrate on trans-Atlantic was the wrong idea at the wrong time. In the 80's, Asia was starting to boom. It wasn't Chernobyl, but European airline deregulation that started a trans-Atlantic airfare price war at that time, something PanAm, with all its legacy costs, was unable to handle.
Still it's worth remembering that it was PanAm's Juan Tripp who convinced Boeing to build the 747.
Exactly, it was the fact they had to endure a bidding war to acquire National and then within a few months the airline deregulation act came meaning Pan Am paid a fortune for a partially compatible fleet when it could have hung on and used it's money to launch it's own domestic network. It's worth noting that Pan Am and Trippe had a habit of rubbing the government up the wrong way and it is said that the ADA was a way at getting back at Pan Am.
TWA and Northwest weren't "international only" airlines. Both had extensive domestic networks.
Do a video on Trans World Airlines (TWA)
I was going to say the same thing, considering the two airlines were always rivals essentially.
I'd love to see this also!
Focus on TWA's famous Tea.
@@davidcopeland5450 were they, how interesting
My brother and sister in law flew for PanAm (he a pilot and she a flight attendant). The day they stopped service, he was on his way to L.A. from Chicago - they completed the flight because they were past the halfway point. Some planes were actually turned around mid-flight and told to return.
When they got to LAX they were told where to park the plane .... and find their own way home. Other airlines took pity on the stranded flight crews and flew them home free of charge.
My sister in law draws no money (she fully retired before they stopped operation) because, as they were going in the hopper, they took money from the flight attendant retirement fund to try and stay afloat. So, she flew for over 20 years and doesn't get a dime.
He was able to get a job flying local puddle jumpers and the occasional cargo flight to South America.
His first flight in one of the small planes after leaving PanAm, he called the tower with "South Western 708 heavy ready for take off."
The tower called back, "Heavy? you're kidding, right?" He had been flying 747's for PanAm and used "heavy" just out of habit.
Great review. I feel you missed an opportunity during the 'glory-days' recap section. Pan-Am was so big, that the commercial flight to the space station in '2001 a Space Odyssey' was a Pan-Am flight. :-D
I wanted to include that but it just felt out of place.
PanAm's Round-the-World-in-80-Days ticket launched my love of Asia in 1980. Flight 2 747's from JFK, SF, Guam, Tokyo, Hong Kong, Singapore, overland to Bangkok, then Delhi, Karachi, Frankfurt. 727's to Berlin, Munich. London reluctantly returned to New York. All on standby, great service. Opened up the world to me, it was a magic carpet.
Michael Bordan :Sounds exciting!!!
You also forgot the of Tenerife in 1977 that also did alot of damage to their reputation as it was and remains to this day the deadliest plane crash in history with 585 people dead on both planes.
Prior to the Pan Am round-the-world tickets, BOAC offered something similar in the 1960s. You could buy a RTW ticket on BOAC, get on the system at any point, and fly to the next point and disembarkThen, get back on the plane days (or weeks) later, and continue to the next point on the route. I think there was a 1 year time limit to travel, but it made it possible to see the world over 1 year for a total air fare of $750. That was the bargain of the century.
Flight 2 went west? Usually even numbered flights go east.
Michael Bordan Cool! My uncle worked at the PanAm WorldPort at JFK Airport and used to do maintenance on Flights 001 and 002. He would tell me the passengers used to always debark the planes with smiles on their faces.
United & American Airlines survived under the same circumstances. Why did some airlines survive and other faIL?
I’m thinking that Pan Am (and the others that didn’t survive) had to have made relatively poorer decisions.
Pan Am did not have domestic routes. That's a major contributing factor he doesn't mention.
Correction: PanAm was not the first airline that operated jets. The first one was BOAC (de Havilland Comet).
I noticed that too, but actually, he didn't say that. He said they operated the first "commercially successful" jets. The Comet had square windows in which the corners developed cracks and caused the planes to break up. The 707 had rounded corners and was a success.
Mark16:15 Good point.
Thomas Kossatz although they did quickly discover the fault and correct it, these failures slowed down production and delivery of the comet, which allowed the 707 to become the overall defacto design for long haul passenger jets...
Okay, here is why I got it wrong: Usually the USA has developed everything, including the intenet* and the telephone** and tend to "forget" other countries. So I was suspicious that it happened again :)
*) No, it wasn't al Gore :)
**) Johann Philipp Reis did not only invent the first working telephone, he even invented the name telephone :)
The TU104 Camel was at one time the only Jet airliner in service ANYWHERE when the DH Comet was pulled from service. So the Tu104 was the most successful Jet airliner for a short time.
The decline of my life next.
Doomed to fail since day one.
Omg hahahaah
Your mother was a failure so you're a failure.. but we can't blame you for that
I’m kinda surprised that you didn’t bring up how a railroad company bought the name and branding rights of Pan Am and now operates in their name. Where I used to live I saw locomotives and box cars they owned go by all the time with the big Pan Am logo on the side. Did a double take the first time I saw one cuz I thought Pan Am was gone for decades lol.
I wish we had Pan Am back, it was such an iconic American business and airline.....
Pan Am was America's flagship airline! They should have been supported and kept going. Could you see France allowing Air France to go under, or Japan throwing away Japan Airlines? Never happen! But America's beaucratic imbeciles in Washington stood by and allowed Pan American to go under because they hated Juan Trippe. Stupid!
@@granthuff2716 They returned briefly in 1996
You should do TWA at some point. I live in Kansas City, where it was once headquartered, and you can see remnants of its influence everywhere.
That is interesting. Where do you see the influences? I know there is a twa museum in KC.
I liked TWA.
As a kid, I always joked that TWA stood for Teenie Weenie Airlines.
Sorry for late response, been busy with finals.
Their headquarters building has become a local landmark. A TWA rocket from a Disney park is even perched on top. Out near the airport there are a selection of old office buildings from the 70s when TWA was going to construct its world hub. When it was constructed, they changed plans and wanted the city to rebuild it. The city refused and TWA moved to St. Louis and left KC with one of the weirdest airports on the planet, comprised of three concrete horseshoe shapes.
This guy didn't mention the Tenarife airport crash in 1977 that also didn't help Pan Am....two 747's were in the wrong place....at the wrong time because of a bomb.The Pan Am 747 wasn't actually at fault...the other pilot was in a big hurry to get under way,when intense fog and understaffed control tower techs also contributed to this disaster.
And to this day is still the worse airplane disasters in the world.....over 560 people died in the two planes when the KLM Dutch pilot failed to wait for takeoff clearance .He topped off his fuel that overloaded the jet ....while at full power...tried to fly over the Pan Am 747....slammed into it when it was still taxiing into position to turn off the main runway.Only 61 people survived out of 622 souls...only on the Pan Am jet.
@Matthew Sullins Ironic how you two are droning on about this guy not doing research when you clearly didn't do enough of that on the Tenerife disaster and didn't know that it was NOT Pam Am's fault, it was the KLM pilot's fault for taking off without proper ATC clearance, in massively thick fog. Not helping is the fact that Tenerife didn't have any ground radar and the fact that the two 747s were diverted there because of a terrorist bomb at their actual destination.
The decline of Atari
Galactem TPG been discussed a million times on TH-cam already
2019 something something offworld.
Wait, they did transpacific flights before transatlantic? I would have thought that transatlantic flights would have higher demand and fewer obstacles, making them more appealing.
You can island hop in the Pacific, not so much so in the Atlantic.
Garry Sanderson Yeah but a trans Atlantic flight connects the worlds largest economy to the home of western civilisation. Islands in the middle of the Pacific aren't exactly in high demand.
You can island hop to places like China, Japan, Korea etc.
Think about what type of aircraft they had in the 1930's.
Garry Sanderson China Clipper flying boat
Still today, I am 73 now, I just cannot find a better airline than PanAm !
you scared me with that intro man!
you forgot the crash of the century it wasn't their fault but it is still the biggest aviation crash.
Nobody blames them for that though it was souly klms fault
Is Owen Wilson the narrator of this video?
You think I sound like Owen Wilson? I can honestly say that's the first time I've heard that.
Sorta! That's why I enjoyed the video! :D
..I.. I can't unhear it now.. wow
The younger Owen Wilson
wooow
I wasn't sure so I checked. Indeed Pan Am flew me and my fellow soilders out of Saudi Arabia after Desert Storm/Shield. The state tried to help them out I guess.
The fact that the plane was previously used to transport military troops is sometimes the source of traces of gun powder residue found in the wreckage of plane crashes. There have been instances, like AA flight 587 over Long Island, where it caused confusion and delay in assigning the cause of the crash to mechanical failure or pilot error due to investigators attempting to chase down evidence of a bomb blast or rocket strike.
Really sad about this. They definitely are an American legacy lost in history.
Not lost forever. Pan Am lives through the Pan Am Museum.
I feel the Federal government should have bailed them out as an iconic and history making airline, and with a name like 'Pan American'.
@@lindafreire4963 where would that be?
The Pan Am Museum is located at the Cradle of Aviation Museum on the 3rd floor. The Museum is in Garden City, Long Island, New York. Thank you for asking.
@@lindafreire4963 thanks for your response. I may just add this to my travels.
My mother worked for Pan Am at Heathrow in the 70s and 80s. I worked one summer for them around the check-ins shifting bags and pushing wheelchairs, many celebrities up to the clipper lounge...specifically remember Elizabeth Taylor.
As staff family we flew many times with them across the Atlantic and a couple of times out to Hawaii. Used to buy MCOs (Miscellaneous Charges Order) to allow upgrades and travelled a number of times First Class and enjoyed the upstairs lounge on the 747-100s. Remember coming back from Hawaii to LA and almost all disembarked in SanFrancisco leaving us to enjoy First by ourselves for the short flight down the coast. Many happy memories and very proud to in some small way be associated with it.
Incidentally the name and logo was resurrected a few times and I remember seeing a few Pan Am planes at Sanford Airport in Orlando in the 2000s.
Pan Am and the Boeing 747 are synonymous with each other. Now the 747 is slowing fading away too.
yeah, it's not going to totally go away, it'll most likely just go more and more into being focused for cargo
Justin Noker or get revamped again to stay relevant
Even the A380 is having a big down turn because the hub and spoke model is getting used less and less often. Is a lot easier to offer direct flights to smaller cities with a EFTOPS twin jet that doesn't take a ton of passengers to fill. There's a reason both the 777 and 787 aren't on the same scale. The 747-8 was a revamped version, but it didn't sell well, the passenger version sold nearly half as many as the freight version and A380 had quite a few cancelled orders. There've been 1,536 747s built so far, and the A380's never going to get near that number. I don't think we'll see a lot of large planes in the future.
thegreatcalvinio what!?!?!?! Noooooooooooooooo!
Well I don't see the comparison.. The 747 has been the biggest success for Boeing ..hardly a failure..yeah it's fading away because the planes are getting old and technology has moved on
The decline of Toshiba needs to happen
Good one, maybe also a “What Happened to Zenith?”
Zenith is just part of LG now. LG still uses the branding.
Good ole Toshiba.
1. Retail... Toshiba selling computers. For quite the amount of time Toshiba sold computers; specifically laptops. For some unknown reason they sold the laptops at two to three times LESS than what it cost to produce them. Imagine buying an ultrabook, with 4k screen, graphics card to handle that 4k and then some, one of the highest end ssd's in the market, and to top it all off - an Intel i7. Then sell it at a price of what a moderate Intel i3 laptop should go for. What could possibly go wrong?
2. Toshiba energy... How many billions could one lose per week? Just ask those Westinghouse employees - now employed by Toshiba. Not to worry though, there are quite the number of departments at Toshiba that are run exactly like Enron
My family always traveled on Pan Am to Italy every year during the mid to late 70's and all the the way to the shutdown, and it was one of the best airlines ever. God I miss the old 747's of Pan Am
I love the music used in all the videos the song just fits with the vibe.
I know it's not a big deal but nobody was flying to anywhere near Chernobyl even before the accident since it was in Soviet control at not a lot of Americans.
Pretty sure Pan Am flew to Moscow. But maybe Chernobyl caused overall demand to decrease in Europe.
People knew about a nuclear accident happening before The Soviet Union admitted to Chernobyl simply because of an unexpected jump in radiation all over Europe. I'm sure a lot of people decided to avoid the radiated parts - and all of Europe, just to be safe.
It was more that the Chernobyl accident decreased commercial demand for Europe travel. Yes it was in the Soviet Union, but there was a fear (a very legitimate one) that the radioactive fallout from the plant would spread all over Europe. Being anywhere close to that fallout zone, even as far as West Germany, Italy, or Sweden, seemed like a bad idea.
Poor Pan Am.
Oh, my, lord. I was waiting for the Tenerife Airport Disaster. Where was it?
Loki Is A Lemon Me too
...probably in a video about KLM, considering they were at fault.
But KLM is still alive
Loki Is A Lemon if you want it that bad go Google it. And if you already know about it, why the hell do you care if it's in this video?
MICOLE WHYTE, because I believe that others should know about it too. If you weren’t such a senseless dipshit you’d understand.
You should do a special on TWA.........
I should.
Company Man
Thanks for replying!!
Eastern Airlines as well.
Company Man And Northwest Airlines.
*insert conspiracy theorist comment here*
I was so interested in the your video i actually ask my grandfather if he flew in one of those. He said that his first ever flight was with Pam Am in 1967 from Puerto Rico to New York. I showed the video to him and he remembered the interior and the engines, pretty cool. Thanks man, great video.
The 747 at 5:02 has 3!!!! engines on the left wing!
Must have been a flight where they delivered a engine.
The additional engine was in transit to bring another bird off of AOG status
This was fairly common, and the planes were designed to be able to transport spare engines
Still shuffle engines around like this now, or at least are able to.
By the way, the first Pan Am flight, which was a foreign air mail route, was not even flown by a Pan Am aircraft or pilot. Pan Am was planning to run their operation out of Key West but the runway was so rough they could not operate their aircraft. A transient biplane (which happened to be a floatplane) was on its way to be delivered to the Dominican Republic when it stopped in Key West for refueling. They paid the pilot to run the first airmail flight to Cuba and back to Key West before the deadline to maintain the contract expired. The pilot then flew the aircraft to its new owner in the Dominican Republic and in to obscurity.
Have you been reading "SkyGods"? ;)
According to the Pan Am Historical Foundation, he's right. The Fokker F-VII couldn't fly out of Key West in time for the mail delivery to Cuba. So, a floatplane that was being ferried to Santo Domingo by a different company did it: "a (chartered) Pan American Airways aircraft, flown by Cy Caldwell (a Canadian citizen) operated Pan Am’s very first flight"
I remember Chernobyl and it was indeed terrifying to people who didn't even live anywhere near Ukraine. People all over the world were afraid that it would result in an apocalyptic nuclear event for the whole world somehow. But it didn't. Did you know that the elephant's foot is still burning? It will remain radioactive for the next 100,000 years.
I also quite clearly remember flight 103. At the time it created a lot of panic about flying because it was such a horrific disaster. Never mind the near constant Gaddafi stuff in the news all the time and had been for years. There's a reason why Libyan terrorists were used as a plutonium plot device in Back to the Future. It was something that was immediately recognizable to even kids back in the 80s. Gaddafi took responsibility for the attack but always maintained he didn't order it. Who knows. I think a lot of people never believed him regardless. There were always other theories about who was responsible.
I was about 8 when flight 103 happened. But I had already seen the Challenger disaster as well. It was a really interesting (and frightening) time to be a child. So many things happened in a short amount of time. I guess the same can be said of any era. But I think it's a bit different when you grow up during that stuff.
I did one of my Masters degree term papers on Pan Am. You hit the high notes but one. The acquisition on National airlines was a half- billion dollar boondoggle that they never recovered from. The fleet was in compatible as were the employees. It is a long story in itself but it suffices to say that they never recovered.
That's true. It also ties into the problem with their lack of a good domestic feeder network for their international flights.
maxsmodels: Curious to know what was your thesis?
Henry Rieken: Right. PanAm had so concentrated on their international flights, they hardly had a domestic network; deregulation had caught them with their pants down (so to speak). The acquisition of National Airlines was their attempt to quickly build a domestic network in order to compete with the well-established domestic carriers. I was on one of National's last flights (DCA-TPA) and, ironically, one of PanAm's last flights (Freeport, Grand Bahamas - MIA). I agree with maxsmodels that PanAm's decision to acquire National Airlines was fatal.
Right! And it didn't help that PanAm overpaid for National.
i concur National Airlines did em in, everyone else who was in business back then is still doing bullishness now. major carriers that is and they had to deal with the same stuff and they also had planes fall out of the sky.
Do Woolworths ;o
Oh yeah ! Woolworths. I totally forgot about that store. Wow! When I was a child, it was a big Saturday event to go downtown to Woolworths and shop for crap and then have a ice cream float there afterwards. What did they even sell? Was it clothes? School supplies? I can't remember their claim to fame.
Woolworths is still around. Nowadays you know them as Foot Locker.
Ron Con Coma So. Woolworths became Footlocker ???
That's what was left after they shut down all the five-and-dimes.
There is a foot locker near me that use to be a Woolworths. I never made that connection.
I was a Pan Am Pilot from 1966 until 1986 when I went to United with the Pacific Sale. There are Reasons and Excuses for our demise. Frankly, this presentation presents a lot of excuses as reasons. As others have mentioned, all airlines faced most of the difficulties that Pan Am faced. When Juan Trippe left us, he was replaced by Professional Managers who did not have Trippe's knowledge of aviation or fire for pioneering. As an example, for a period, Pan Am had a policy of discontinuing flights that had a Load Factor (enough seats sold to meet the direct cost of the flight.) Sounds reasonable enough, but they didn't consider the fact that they were not reducing fixed overhead. Consequently, the Break Even load factor continued to increase, more flights were cancelled, on and on. As a graphic example, one of the Pilots furloughed by reductions, went around the corner, hired on as Management, and became President! There are lots of reasons......... Mr. Trippe was perfectly willing to go around Bureaucrats to get things done- we had enemies in DC. With Congress, Delta had the Georgia Delegation, American had Texas......... we had New York????????? Enough Said! We spent a lot of money to buy National just before Deregulation- and, if we didn't Fail Deregulation, we got a D- !
Can You talk about Net Neutrality?
Suggestion:decline of twa
Anthony Sabbouh yes
A big part of Pan Am's troubles was that they kind of over-ordered 747s, so they were less efficient on a lot of routes than the later, ETOPS-certified airplanes and since they were big, they couldn't service a lot of smaller international destinations, instead making people fly to a big hub and then take a second flight instead of going direct. Plus they had put themselves under strain to finance them in the first place.
It didn't help that the fleet they got from National Airlines was incompatible aircraft, so they had increased costs from running a growing number of aircraft types.
Zzyzx Wolfe I dont think this is applicable for PanAm. When Pan Am went under, 99% of international travel was on 747s. The twin engine international market pretty much didnt exist.
A310s were replacing 747s on a lot of international routes in the early/mid '80s. Pan Am didn't fold until '91. They were also more modern and fuel efficient than the 747.
Zzyzx Wolfe That is simply not true at any scale in the early 80s. I travelled in the 80s extensively and whether you went to Narita or Singapore or London, the moment you reached the international terminal it was wall to wall 747s. In fact I cant think of any other aircraft I flew internationally other than a few on the cross atlantic with the 757s. That was it. Now my perspective is an American international traveller so all international flights were long haul (pacific or atlantic)
552mustang flew on dc-10s to Hong Kong in the 80’s
Zzyzx Wolfe i
Pan Am was in the wrong place at the wrong time. They could not help it. Not at all.
yeah, they could. with good enough communication and education, they could have been able to tell people "hey, we know you are scared to go to europe but its perfectly fine. just as beautiful as always". for terrorist attacks, they could have increased security and comunicate it. the elimination of the flight regulation couldn't have been something that popped up on the news one day; they should have known before hand that competition was coming their way.
the only thing they really could handle was the war and the increased price of gas. so for the most part, them going bankrupt was entirely their fault.
They could've done a little planning, maybe by not sacrificing their entire Pacific routes for a payout.
Shortly after Pan Am sold its routes to United, I flew on a Pan Am plane (there was a white dot on the tail covering the Pan Am logo) to Hong Kong. The plane was the exact opposite of what was depicted in the the historical photographs in your presentation. I was in "first class" (in quotation marks due to the awful condition of the cabin). Some overhead bins were secured with duct tape. The interior was filthy. Many seats did not recline properly. The United personnel explained that they had just gotten the aircraft and this was its condition AFTER United cleaned it up a bit. Clearly, Pan Am had stopped maintaining its fleet long before it sold off the Pacific routes. Many years before, I had flown on Pan Am. It was an entirely different experience (of course, so was Eastern, Northeast, TWA, American, United and Delta). That was then and this is now. I remember lounges, bars and roasts carved on a trolly in the ample aisle. Ahh, what was will never be again.
You forgot to mention Tenerife
ryanhaart ... because it was KLMs f*$kup. Maybe mention it in a story about KLM.
The largest aviation accident in history involved a Pan-Am plane, but a video on the history of the airline ignores it?
Quality content!
bcubed72 Actually, you can’t really blame KLM. An unholy concoction of events happened on that day. The terrorist incident at Gran Canaria caused the airport at Tenerife to be congested. They had to designate the main runway as a taxiway as the main taxiway was being used to refuel other planes. Not to mention, Tenerife didn’t have a ground radar and conditions were so foggy, ATC couldn’t see the PanAm and the KLM flight. Then there was miscommunication between ATC and PanAm. PanAm was taxiing down the runway to get into takeoff position at the other end, and the KLM flight was taking off. Sad day for aviation.
Peter Laing
KLM took off without clearance from the tower. KLM pilot (company's CHIEF pilot, BTW) was rushing due to duty time limitations. Co-pilot actually overrode HIS BOSS once, but lacked the stones to do so twice.
Pretty clear assignation of blame: KLM pilot took off without clearance to do so, and collided with another airplane. The terrorist threat, the fog, and the duty time limits were all secondary, contributing factors.
It was from this accident that we got "legal to start, legal to finish" regs: weather can't make a shift "illegal." Because of this accident.
It's true there were many factors to blame with Tenerife. Ultimately Van Zanten took off without clearance, but it is important to consider the conditions and circumstances on the day. An ATC service that was stretched to full capacity and which had a limited to poor grasp of English, the lack of ground radar at Los Rodeos, and the ambiguity of the tower's transmissions. Given the obviously poor weather conditions, I do think that the tower could have taken more care to ensure that the runway was clear, and given much clearer instructions.
I thought this would be about Frank Abagnal jr
My first flight was on pan am. It really doesn't compare to flying today. Back then, it was as if the entire cabin was operated as just first class. I remember the flight attendant holding my little brother so my mom could sleep! Quite a different experience.
I just watched "Cath me if you can" 15 minutes ago and now this. Lol.
Nikolaj11 catch not Cath :P
Indeed.
I read that with a heavy lisp.
That's a great movie and based on a true story
Nikolaj11. I watched that last night on tv in Sydney, Australia :)
I think most people who watch your videos know who OPEC is.
Tommy the gamemaster We also can read between the lines as to who the "opponent" was.
He could have younger fans I found this channel because I was looking up what happen to Yahoo and AOL and a few other companies I grew up just too take a look and found this place. I say the way he talks business he's aiming more for college students, and if colleges are teaching students in business what OPEC is then there not doing a very good job.
You missed a number of important points. Pan Am refused to "comp" American politicians when other carries did. Pam Am was then penalized by legislation which prevented them from offering domestic flights, then a growing market. Pan Am would be charged high landing fees at foreign airports when carriers from those countries paid a pittance to land at US airports. Pan Am could only land in Gatwick, London instead of Heathrow. This discrimination happened in many locations while foreign carriers were allowed to land at prime locations such as JFK (then Idlewild) in NYC. These (and other) "quirks" that were imposed on the airline industry over the years, made it MUCH more difficult for American carriers such as Pan Am to stay competitive in a changing world market.
Pan Am did land at LHR.
Pretty much all US Airlines the time were forced to land at Gatwick.
I flew Pan Am back in '79 to England and back then it was an experience to fly. Nothing like the flying bus system it is today. Back then, people still dressed to travel. Men wore jackets and women wore dresses. Food was an experience and every thing more formal and proper. That's how I remember it anyways.
Sounds so strange hearing it now. I'm a little upset I'll probably never get to experience something like that.
Company Man Just go on a first class Emirates or Etihad flight and wear a suit
Back then no one would dare board a flight in flip-flops!
The decline of NASCAR
The decline of TWA
Ben Dover Their TV ratings went down about 12% this year (which is a bigger decline than the NFL)
The decline of Angel Galvez
I was a PanAm flight attendant from 1988-1991...amazing job...amazing experience. Still miss it!
I worked for Pan Am for 14 years in London until 1982 when I moved to the US. Pan Am applied many times to operate domestically within the United States but were never granted the approval to do so and were purely an international carrier. I forget which year but they did manage to buy National Airlines, based in Florida which added a few domestic routes, mainly up and down the east coast. It wasn't enough to help. Very sad they are gone.
If you where my professor, i feel i actually would of learned something in college.
That's very kind.
would've
Agreed! I think I commented in another video that he'd be an excellent uni or college professor!
Though he sounds young, so if he's as attractive as he is talented, he *might* become the fancy of many students 😅 (I'm not flirting with ya, Mike! Just stating what I feel is the obvious!)
@SeanRPS Hence why i need company man as a professor!
No actually, as someone who never heard of the TV show I would be absolutely positively happy to hear you fully review the tv series and each episode individually.
I'd love to see AMC (the car company, not the movie one)
To summarize for you if the video was never made, it was in an alliance with Renault at the time, and relied on them heavily to survive. then Renault got a new CEO who promptly cut off all support to AMC, resulting in them going up for sale not long after.
airline deregulation and their lack of domestic routes
and the purchase of National Airlines (trying to acquire domestic routes).
PanAm was a wonderful airline and was used by me to visit home everytime went home on leave from Germany. I even flew PanAm a week after the Lockerbie bombing from Germany to LA.
PanAm was also my first flight in 72 from California to Hawaii. I was 4.
What happened to BOAC ??? (British Overseas Airways Corporation) 1939 to 1974
I checked this out because I remember my country's airline Nigerian Airways originated from BOAC. They sold most of their shares to their respective commonwealth countries and kept the British part as British Airways, due to the fact that the UK could no longer maintain a global empire after WW2.
BOAC merged with British European to become British Airways.
Harry B could be an interesting video
Possibly. The history of the British aviation history is a lot more interesting though.
Pan am was a great airlines like great friend they treated you like family
I flew on them many times as a child in the 1980's the last time was from MIA-LHR in 1985.
Unfortunately, in 1988, when the Libyan (forgive my poor spelling), terrorists attacked Pan Am flight 103, Pan Am played a massive role in deliberately avoiding the proper security regimen, which at the time was called, baggage reconciliation, had they held up they're part, that bomb never would have transferred planes in that suitcase, and that tragedy never would have happened, although I am a Pan Am lover, those greedy idiots that owned the airline at the time helped ruin that company. Juan Tripp would never have stood for that.
You really do not understand the circumstances of operating an international airline at that time. Maybe take a moment to listen to those of us who lived it. Things were very different then, foreign governments dictated terms of how their airports operated. Could security have been better, absolutely? The world was a very different place. The tragedy of PA103 is much more involved than baggage reconciliation, though that did play a role. It does a disservice to all those who worked for Pan Am to be called "greedy idiots" when the situation was much more complicated than you have referenced in a short paragraph. There were more players involved in this terrorist attack on an American flag carrier. There are many deserving of blame for this horrible tragedy.
Linda Freire Well I'm sorry you feel that way, I'm honestly referring to the words my dear friends used, who's daughter was on Pan Am 103, Theo. Thanks for your concern
While I certainly understand the feelings of one who lost a child onboard PA103, I too lost dear friends on PA103. The explanation is just not faceted as some want it to be. Even to this day, there is great anger, and unfortunately somewhat understandable, to Pan Am for the terrorist attack on the 103. Victims and victim families need to blame someone, something for a loss as horrific as a child. I was at the terminal that night. I saw the faces of the parents upon learning of the loss of their children. I felt their gut-wrenching pain. I also remember being in Lockerbie and tending to the needs of the many victim families. Many years of investigations have ensued but no one can or ever will be able to take away the pain from the parents of those who lost their children. All this does not mean the blame for PA103 was squarely due to Pan Am. That explanation is much too simplistic given what we know today. Pan Am was a great airline. Thanks for your reply.
toni paola Incredible MisInformation! PanAm was the first International carrier to Push thier Own Alert increased Security system that was multi pronged but met w/resistance not acceptance. Most Governments control airports and PAA lobbied hard spending millions if not more to gain acceptance of the system wordwide. Sadly it took 9/11 for them to be implimented- better late than never.im shocked at comments from ppl not in the place to know?
You definitely went way too easy on them. Except for the bombing and hijacking all of the airlines that survived had to deal with all of the same problems Pan Am did, and many of them had to deal with bombings, crashes, and hijackings.
Yes, but naturally as the most dominant player, they were hit harder by those outside factors as being bigger means you have more to lose
This. A huge part of successfully managing a business is being able to deal with changes in the market and adapting. Obviously management during those last 20 years were not very on the ball. Every failed business out there has plenty of external excuses for it's failure, but the buck always stops with management.
The video fails to mention how Pan Am was set up of for failure by the regulatory body of the era. It was the only major US airline that wasn't allowed to fly any domestic routes. By the time deregulation was passed, Pan Am was far more strategically disadvantaged than other major airlines because 1) it had no domestic presence at all, and 2) it had no hub-and-spoke system
Caféaulait True. But buying National Airways to get domestic flights actually hurt them a lot more than it helped. They were better off without it.
Bought out and/or merged doesn't mean they didn't survive, it means they did what they needed to do to keep operating. Only Pan Am, Eastern, and Braniff outright folded, Braniff in 1982 and Eastern 10 months before PanAm in 1991. Delta, American, and United are still flying under their own name. The rest merged with or consolidated with the remaining big three at one point or another, some of which are still flying under their own name. But all but one of the 7 major US carriers survived intact as stand alone carriers for ten years after Pan Am went under.
I spent a great part of my youth onboard of Pan Am aeroplanes. Due to the special status of West Berlin, until reunification, only US American, British and French airlines were allowed to serve West Berlin. Pan Am used to fly among other destinations to Hamburg, Munich and Frankfurt. In the 1970s, the service was very good, and the 707s and 727s were usually on time, but things deteriorated in the 1980s, where most flights in and out of Berlin Tegel were dealyed, and the ageing staff was usually very grumpy.
Me, before this video: IT WAS ALL DEREGULATION’S FAULT
Me, after this video: so there was more to the story.... well then
Its Ya Boi Donk An Economics professor of mine liked to compare companies to animals. Deregulation radically changed the environment, some critters adapted, some didn't.
As a full service, high end airline, their weren't enough customers to keep it going. Maybe, if one of the economy airlines had bought it to use as a higher tier "luxury" brand (like Cadillac in the GM hierarchy) they could have been saved.
"They haven't existed since 1991"
Oh, the irony. They were featured as a commercial space clipper in "2001 a Space Odyssey". I guess Stanley Kubrick wishes he had used Boeing instead :P
I dont think Boeing is an airline company.
Right, but they stick around while the people that buy from them come and go. In 1968, when the film was made, you could make the audience believe that in the year 2001 companies would be manufacturing and running business under a parent corporation's name.
Why use Boeing? Boeing isn't an airline. Pan Am is also featured in "future" ads in Blade Runner.
+Star Gazer
I hate quoting myself, but see above
"Right, but they stick around while the people that buy from them come and go. In 1968, when the film was made, you could make the audience believe that in the year 2001 companies would be manufacturing and running business under a parent corporation's name."