@@americantroy77 yes, still have it now. It just passed the yearly warranty period of 60 months. I have 52k miles, and overall average of 53 MPG, all fillups logged on Fuelly. The only issue I've had is the driver's door proximity lock doesn't work. The key fob works. I caught it before warranty ended, so the dealer has it on order, no charge. Really nice having a hybrid with >$4.50 fuel, for sure..lol.
@@land7776 I just purchased a 2018 from CarMax that is being shipped to me hopefully by next week I’ll have it. My daily commute is about 150 miles and my Forrester is killing my pockets on gas.
@@americantroy77 I don't drive many miles now as I don't commute to work, but I still like the economy. I always thought I can't understand why someone with a long commute wouldn't own a hybrid. If you figure with 150 m. commute youre saving about 3 gal. per day. That's maybe 3x5days x50wks x $4 or more, that's $3k per year plus the weekend driving and trips.. and more if gas goes up. So maybe well >$4k saved every year. Doesn't make sense not to own one.
The debate over "what category does it fit into" is unimportant. What matters is: How will it be used? and In what general price range does it fall? Compare it to other vehicles that will be used in a similar way and are similarly priced. It doesn't matter if they are hatchbacks or CUVs, AWD or FWD, hybrid or conventional.
Excellent and most accurate car reviews of all car reviews in the TH-cam! !!!! I think this Niro is direct competitive with Toyota Prius V which is more than $4000 expensive.
I'm thinking of getting a used niro FE and this is THE BEST review I've found. Most are on the upgraded one or aren't as detailed as you. Awesome job!! 👏🏼
partly because you own the EV and partly because I'm torn between the Niro and the Soul, I wish you had compared them. still a great overall video as always!
Excellent review and comparisons! The best I've seen yet on the net, and I've watched a few. My choice will be between the Niro and HR-V. Thanks for a great job, Alex.
It's a "sportwagon" with Crossover dna, which is not a bad thing. A good strategy for the US consumer. I rather be seen driving this around than the Prius (Awkward design). The trim options price does creep into larger CUV class territory, however you are awarded with fuel efficiency which in the long term saves money. An easy choice If you are in the market. BTW... 4 wheel drive is overrated and usually misunderstood. Just slow down or like Alex suggest, get winter tires. Great review Alex!
Couldn't agree more. I have an Audi S4 Avant and an Acura TSX wagon, and we're shopping to replace the Audi as it's been nothing but a troublesome money pit. The Acura has been great, just like the Integra that I put 344K miles on, and it holds its own in harsh Mt Hood snowstorms with Bridgestone Blizzaks on. (We get ~30 MPG mixed, just FYI). I'm a longtime wagon fan for bikes and boards - I do more 'sports' in my wagons than most do with their SUVs - but wagons are now rare in the US and seem to fetch a premium. (With the 2018 Niro plug-in coming, I suspect you could get a bare LX for ~$18K these days). To your point on 4WD, there is a snowy corner on highway 35 heading up to Mt Hood that you can almost always find a Yukon or Cherokee upside down next to...
You probably never drove where there is piled up snow or when they have yet to plow the streets like up in alaska. Front wheel drive vehicles will only do so much.
crossover yes. most people dont need awd and rarely take their cars offroad. its much larger than other hybrids and not butt ugly or eco freak friendly. this car is common sense personified, it has efficiency, promises nothing bold, but delivers everything a road trip car should. even as a grocery getter, this thing slays the ugly ass prius
I purchased a Prius Prime in 2017 for my wife. Since she drives it primarily around town, her mpg calculation determined 168 mpg. I have both 220 & 110 charge capabilities, but because the worse case charge is only 5 hours on 110, I've recharging with only the 110. We purchased the white color with the white interior. The white interior with black trim adds a significant level of sportiness to this car. I've replaced the standard Dunlop tires with Michelin Premiums & added a spare tire. I would not recommend the RunFlat tire types. The whole car handles far better during all conditions with the Michelins than it ever did with Dunlops and the mpg has not changed. I've recently evaluated the Honda Clarity & I was so impressed with this car, that I would recommend to anyone that if you're looking for a Hybrid PlugIn. The only disadvantage is the display is smaller than the Prius Prime.
Alex, another excellent review, unbiased and throughly informative. As for category, not really that import, this car stands on it's own merits. If you need a four wheeled drive, move on. The Nero has staked it's reputation on fuel economy, and comfort.
I love it. I drive the Touring. Roomy and fun to drive. I get about 500 miles to the tank. Not disappointed. I live in the DC/VA area. Before that I had a 2009 Ford Escape Limited V6. Gas sucker.
3:32 what is with those fuel figures? with a Niro, you can get a MEDIUM figure of 65 MPG easy !!! And i have a full spare wheel, as well :) i am driving it for 3 years and it is a fantastic car!
IMPRESSIVE REVIEW..We agree with you Alex and bought the 2019 Niro Touring and absolutely LOVE IT!! The 18 inch wheels and tires make all the difference compared to the lower trim levels, there Michelin tires and they offer GREAT handling too..Very quite..Love the Duel-clutch trans over a CVT any day...And using the sport shifting makes a huge difference in power..I use it getting on the highway then put it back in normal mode.. Win-Win!!
Alex always thorough, you are the standard by which I measure all other car reviewers. BTW thanks for the explanation of the Torque values. I was confused last time on the Touring Niro review.
... and if you install a CamWipe, the backup camera lenses can be wiped clean whenever the rear wiper is on! With Michelin CrossClimate2 205/60/16 on a EX trim, I am able to get 61 MPG (vs57.5 MPG on OEM tires) consistently while the bumps are getting soak up by these All-Weather Grand Touring extremely quiet, excellent in handling and comfortable tires. You are right about tires makes a lot of difference.
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I am considering this car because I need better fuel mileage but need to shop at Costco at times and need cargo area in the back that just isn't found on a prius.
I traded a Ford C-Max that I'd driven for five years on a Kia Niro EX. I am delighted with the Niro, which is quieter, more attractive, more fuel-efficientr, and more fun to drive. The Kia's smaller turning radius is a big plus, as is its greater rear seat legroom. Kia also has included CarPlay, which allows me to link my iPhone to the Kia's screen for trip navigation and other functions. Other features I like more than I expected are the lane change and backing-up warnings when other cars are in the Niro's path. While the Niro is somewhat sluggish in the Eco mode, slapping the stick over to the Sport mode provides for quick getaways. According to the Niro's computer, I drive normally and economically about 50% each, with just a touch of aggressive driving now and then (it's never exceeded 3%). I'm getting 44-45 mpg in almost exclusively highway driving, not far off the EPA estimate of 46 highway. (The C-Max was initially rated at 47 mpg overall, but that was reduced to 43 and then to 40. I never got more than about 37 mpg.) Kia has some phenomenal incentives for leasing the vehicle; you should check them out. This is the first review of Alex's that I have watched, and I found his commentary accurate.
5900 miles and never under 56 MPG. LX model, 280lb driver doing Uber and Lyft. Guess what else the Niro does... There are no 12v batteries in the Niro! It uses the hybrid battery all the time and a integrated 12v battery/capacitor.
Jason, just wondering if you have to pay extra to insure your car if you are Uber/Lyft driver. I noticed when I was insuring my Niro online, they asked whether you were I am considering maybe being a driver sometime.
Iam Ian There is an ad endorsement that is available for purchase that brings Ubers insurances up to what I have personally. Uber only has state minimum. If you have state minimum then there is no reason to buy the addendum. If you have 100/300 or 300/300 then it makes sense to get the additional insurance. My addendum was $33 for the 6 months coverage gap.
Thanks, but what I meant was does your own insurance company raise your rates if you become an Uber driver. I have over the State minimum now, of course.
The vast majority of drivers without homes with private garages, a pug in electric vehicle is out of the question so a hybrid is an amazing choice for most. Love this mid sized SUV shape compared to the Prius. Really like the fact that they didn't saddle the vehicle with an anemic CVT. The hybrid is superior for people who do a mix of driving and in fact the more traffic heavy around town driving the better as that is where the hybrid really shines. Since Tesla refuses to make a hybrid, and the VW Tiguan isn't offered as a hybrid, this KIA NIRO is the idea alternative.
Very thorough review of this vehicle. Wondering how you would grade the top end Niro equipped with Touring/tech package verses the Lexus CT200h FSport. Thanks.
Great review, Alex! You covered all of the aspects of the Kia Niro perfectly! I actually just recently conducted my full review of the all-new Kia Niro, too! It impressed quite a bit, and it fared pretty well in my tests! Keep up the great work, Alex! I am looking forward to your Ioniq review. 👍 -DriveAndBeDriven 🚘 "The Quest To Record The Best!" 📽
@@chadhaire1711 If you call "real" driving. If ur real driving includes driving 10+ miles over 70 posted speed limits, driving 60 mph on any hwy, street, stopping at traffic lights and stop sighs at the last minute. Just imagine enjoying a range of 475 to as much as 600 miles on a tank of gas. That's what I get with my 2018 ioniq...yes I try for high millage, but I'm not a "hypermiliager"
I know there are some concerns about DCT's (previous KIA vehicles and could also come up with this car) in general, however, I think most of the fears have come from people misunderstanding how DCT's work. Many are simply not used to how DCT's operate, especially at low speeds. Since it is an automated manual it will feel jolty from a standstill in comparison to a regular torque converter tranny. I have the 2016 kia soul lx turbo with the dct and while I only have driven it for a few thousand miles, I cannot attest to its long term reliability but so far it has been very, very good! I prefer it over a conventional transmission due to its efficiency and the problems with hunting for a gear being near gone. I highly suggest you try it out for yourself! Cheers everyone!
Yes for 10/100K. Kia has chosen not to offer the unlimited mileage warranty that is on the related Ioniq hybrid for some reason so if that's a worry the nearly identical liftback styled Ioniq has a lifetime unlimited mileage warranty on the hybrid battery.
Do you know why the Kia Niro isn't a Top Safety Pick for IIHS? I've been trying to decide between the Kia Niro and Hyundai Ioniq. I like the amount of room for the 2nd passengers the Niro has. It seems like a great choice if I have kids one day and need to put in/remove car seats. However, the Ioniq is an IIHS Top Safety Pick for both 2017 & 2018. Additionally, Hyundai offers a lifetime warranty for the battery, which is one of the biggest longterm concerns for hybrid owners.
Great review, as usual, Alex! Ton of great info; you easily make the most informative, but engaging car reviews on TH-cam. Thanks for that. I would love to get your input on how this compares to the VW Golf SportWagen. It seems that might even be a closer comparison to some of the crossover you mentioned. Thoughts?
Great review. Is there any info yet on when the plug-in version will come out? Definitely liking the Niro, just wondering if it might be worth waiting for the plug-in if it's indeed coming soon.
Yo, man - thanks for once again, a great review. Agree about the choice between all-season tire and AWD car vs. winter tire and FWD car - though you should have added snowy conditions mandate winter tires, and AWD vehicles in combination with those would almost always make the definite choice. Impeccable work otherwise, keep the channel alive!
Thank you, Alex, for a great review. I never considered the Kia Niro before. I agree that this blurs (again) the lines between a typical hatchback/wagon and crossover. Since it does not have AWD, but retains the spirit of a crossover, I would consider it a crossover. The Niro's market may be for people who want that look, but the efficiency of a hybrid.
Got to say. I love this review style Alex. And while I don't recommend getting a 2017 due to first year issues I would look forward to a 2018 model. My wife prefers a vehicle that looks like a SUV and this would be in my top 5 list. She could care less about all well drive.
Thanks for this review. I am torn between the Niro EX and the Ioniq SEL models. I feel like those are the 2 at the top of my list. I kind of want the Niro for the higher up feeling but since I currently have a regular Sonata, the Ioniq would be nice because I would be familiar with the inside buttons and such. But the fact that I live in MN, I like the higher ground clearance of the Niro. Decisions, decisions. I still have time to think about it though.
Great review as always Alex! Could you please get in a review of a 2017 Toyota Prius V Five? I know it's the last year of the V and I'm thinking about picking one up. Would really appreciate it.
Alex, when performing your video ending comparisons, is there a reason you didn't select the Toyota Prius V? You used the regular Prius, and IMO the Prius V is probably a better comparison. Having said that I still think the Kia Niro compares favorably, simply because of regular transmission vs Prius CVT.
The LX is worth the extra money compared FE trim in my opinion. However I'm glad the FE is very well equipped in the first place. I'd likely buy this if I was car shopping.
Most cars cars prior to the 1960's, including sports cars, were body-on-frame, so are those trucks? If you look at a 1950's Ford F-100 truck, those truck beds were small since they were framed within the wheel wells.
at: 24:50 ... if the temperature drops bellow -40 degrees, i suggest you stay inside (your house)... and get lots and lots of blankets... there is no way you are going to drive at such a low temperature...
Americans don't like the term hatchback so if you just give something a slightly higher ride height and bam call it a SUV It's all about marketing people!
Bill H did I call it an sport utility vehicle? I said here in the states, Americans typically don't like hatchback, it's the word, so all these small SUV that are basically hatchback wouldn't sell well, so they call it a sub compact SUV and it sells Try reading next time.
Engineering question? With only one electric motor how is the engine cranked when in motion? Starter motor, alternator or does it just pop the clutch? I noticed in powertrain pictures it has a large water cooled belt driven alternator.
Technically, there are two electric motors, just only one is connected to the power train. The "alternator" you are seeing is the second electric motor that both starts the motor and can also charge the hybrid battery, it just isn't connected to the power train. It works well starting the engine, has not been an issue in the Sonata/Optima Hybrid, which has used the same Hybrid system since 2011.
Yep, like David said. The second motor/generator unit is very small and isn't used for much other than starting the engine and powering the system while sitting at idle. Because of the design of the system it's not feasible to use the main MG unit to do idle generation and it's smoother to use a second MG to start the engine when needed rather than doing what single motor hybrids do which is a quick shift to neutral, then crank, then back in gear.
Thanks Alex& Dave! I have been reading and searching for the answer and coming up short. I am glad that Hyundai/Kia did it right. Its really pathetic how poorly manufacturers and media explain how these things work. But most people don't comprehend anyway....
Some like to keep it a big mystery. FCA for instance with the Pacifica Hybrid has never really explained the exact inner workings of their new hybrid system. It seems to be a blend of the old 2-mode system and a similar layout to what we see in the Volt but without more detail it is hard to say for sure. (Without sawing one open of course).
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Lexus CT200h. That hybrid hatchback is smaller than a Mazda CX-3, & the Niro Touring trim looks more premium. Is a car considered "luxury" if it has vinyl instead of leather seats? I like the Niro, but I think Hyundai/Kia have too many similar sized cars with similar capacities. Is it worth trading a Kia Soul ! trim for a Niro or Ioniq?
I thought the review was great, though would have liked to see a comparison with the Rav 4 Hybrid. Also, I thought I had seen that the upper trim levels of the Niro have additional noise reduction, such as better glass, that is part of the increased weight. Am I remembering correctly? If so, it would see the cabin noise rating would be better in the higher trims.
Good review. I have been driving a Niro EX for the past 2 weeks. Beware of the Niro's weight restriction in the rear cargo area: not to exceed 130#/59Kg. I bought the Niro (EX) unaware of that parameter. Soon enough, I will know if that rear area can support a half-keg of beer...
The term "crossover" is broad, since it basically means a combination of car classifications & features. If this was the 1990s, the Niro would be a "Minivan", like the 1st gen Honda Odyssey with 4-doors. It's probably called a MPV in other countries, just like a Kia Soul or Honda Fit. As with all car classes, the sizes have grown considerably.
The Hyundai version is the Ioniq, which is built on the same platform/drivetrain but is more of a sedan shaped hatchback. That shape helps with fuel economy, though, as the Ioniq's EPA rating is actually higher than the Prius.
Hyundai has seen the greater sales of the crossover form as the Niro outsells the Ioniq. Their version is due in 2018 as at least an ev. . . . www.autoblog.com/2017/03/30/hyundai-plans-electric-cars-kia-genesis/
I bought a 2019 Niro Touring. Very nice, comfy, roomy for a small station wagon. Efficient, and with sport mode on, I need to hold back on the pedal or it will spin the tires from a stop.
Finding a category for the Niro is like finding a category for the Soul or the Subaru Crosstrek. The Soul (al least if I remember correctly) was a modified Rio intended to compete in a niche market that people started referring to as a crossover in 2014 due to the redesign and its endless cargo capacity. The Crosstrek, on the other hand, is just an Impreza with a lift kit and bulky fenders. Given its shape and size, I would consider the Niro a subcompact crossover, due to the Soul originally being a boxcar competitor and the Crosstrek being otherwise no different from an Impreza hatch. Those vehicles are not crossovers in my eyes. The Niro is.
I dont understand why they make these so short, this would be such a more useful vehicle if there was another 1 foot of length for use in the trunk, just add it to the overhang behind the rear wheels nothing else needs to change, just some sheet metal.
I'm very interested in this and the Hyundai Ioniq, but I'm concerned with reliability. There are some complaints online about reliability issues, mostly stuff relating to electric and hybrid components it seems. When hybrid components fail it's insanely expensive to fix. I don't want a headache for a vehicle and the repair costs could end up outweighing the fuel savings. Another aspect that bothers me about hybrids is that the gas engine is never given the opportunity to warm up before being driven, especially an issue in harder acceleration and colder weather. That cannot be good for the engine in the long run. I always let my regular gas cars warm up a few minutes before I go. Can't do that in a hybrid.
Better MPG than the Volt when the Volt is running off gas, which is rated at 42 MPG I believe. Obviously a Volt running purely in electric mode is still going to get hugely better efficiency, if you go by the MPGe rating.
Alex, I'm very interested in the Niro EX....we were considering a Prius V, but the Niro has more traditional styling and better fuel economy...thanks so much for your in-depth reviews...there are many "Auto Reviewers" out there, but I always come back to your channel.
Brian P. Yeahhhh...I definitely worry about the Kia resale value and overall longterm reliability...only ever driven Toyotas, Hondas, and Subarus...never owned a Kia.
+Dan Claire as odd as it sounds, Kia has actually been beating Toyota in the reliability numbers lately. In addition to that their hybrid cars have a lifetime battery warranty. Resale value has generally been lower however the brand has been catching up here as well and I don't expect the difference to be too big in five years
I just did the first fillup of my Niro LX, with 1/4 tank left. I got 54.54 MPG! Not too shabby, and I don't drive like granny..
How big is the gas tank?
@@GoaWay... 11.9 US gallons
thank you for reviewing the BASE model unlike other reviewers. this is the model i'm considering
After eight fillups of my Niro LX I am averaging 55 MPG. It's great.
You still have it? How did it hold up?
@@americantroy77 yes, still have it now. It just passed the yearly warranty period of 60 months. I have 52k miles, and overall average of 53 MPG, all fillups logged on Fuelly. The only issue I've had is the driver's door proximity lock doesn't work. The key fob works. I caught it before warranty ended, so the dealer has it on order, no charge. Really nice having a hybrid with >$4.50 fuel, for sure..lol.
@@land7776 I just purchased a 2018 from CarMax that is being shipped to me hopefully by next week I’ll have it. My daily commute is about 150 miles and my Forrester is killing my pockets on gas.
@@americantroy77 This is way more luxurious from the inside compared to Forestor. You only miss the trunk space and offroad capabilities.
@@americantroy77 I don't drive many miles now as I don't commute to work, but I still like the economy. I always thought I can't understand why someone with a long commute wouldn't own a hybrid. If you figure with 150 m. commute youre saving about 3 gal. per day. That's maybe 3x5days x50wks x $4 or more, that's $3k per year plus the weekend driving and trips.. and more if gas goes up. So maybe well >$4k saved every year. Doesn't make sense not to own one.
I'm not a car person, but your presentation is so smooth, professional, and well done that I'm subbing.
The debate over "what category does it fit into" is unimportant. What matters is: How will it be used? and In what general price range does it fall?
Compare it to other vehicles that will be used in a similar way and are similarly priced. It doesn't matter if they are hatchbacks or CUVs, AWD or FWD, hybrid or conventional.
dMb I totally agree what you said
This thing is a gorgeous supermodel compared to the Prius
So is a brain tumor.
Did u buy one? I might
Aren’t Prius normal and even cool looking now? It may depend on the model, but I’m pretty sure it’s evolved from its stereotype.
@@nbadraft08 The interior is still hideous on the Priuses.
Excellent and most accurate car reviews of all car reviews in the TH-cam! !!!!
I think this Niro is direct competitive with Toyota Prius V which is more than $4000 expensive.
My reviews were better
No, the V is much larger than this.. I think. Bigger cargo area.
Ive had my Niro for three weeks almost and I gotta say I am content with it! Sport mode is fun haha
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how do you feel a yr down the road?
How about 3 yrs down the road?
I'm thinking of getting a used niro FE and this is THE BEST review I've found. Most are on the upgraded one or aren't as detailed as you. Awesome job!! 👏🏼
My wife just got the lx, I am 6’2 and have lots of room in front and back. Not fast but adequate and great price
I've always considered these vehicles much closer to the old fashioned station wagon. Although in this case, more of a mini wagon.
it IS a wagon...I own the 2017....love the car.
partly because you own the EV and partly because I'm torn between the Niro and the Soul, I wish you had compared them. still a great overall video as always!
You just make such quality videos. You’re now my default search termWhen looking for research on a car.
Alex, Even though it is mid-May, I thank you for reminding us of the safety benefits of winter tires vs all season tires.
Excellent review and comparisons! The best I've seen yet on the net, and I've watched a few. My choice will be between the Niro and HR-V. Thanks for a great job, Alex.
It's a "sportwagon" with Crossover dna, which is not a bad thing. A good strategy for the US consumer. I rather be seen driving this around than the Prius (Awkward design). The trim options price does creep into larger CUV class territory, however you are awarded with fuel efficiency which in the long term saves money. An easy choice If you are in the market. BTW... 4 wheel drive is overrated and usually misunderstood. Just slow down or like Alex suggest, get winter tires. Great review Alex!
Couldn't agree more. I have an Audi S4 Avant and an Acura TSX wagon, and we're shopping to replace the Audi as it's been nothing but a troublesome money pit. The Acura has been great, just like the Integra that I put 344K miles on, and it holds its own in harsh Mt Hood snowstorms with Bridgestone Blizzaks on. (We get ~30 MPG mixed, just FYI). I'm a longtime wagon fan for bikes and boards - I do more 'sports' in my wagons than most do with their SUVs - but wagons are now rare in the US and seem to fetch a premium. (With the 2018 Niro plug-in coming, I suspect you could get a bare LX for ~$18K these days). To your point on 4WD, there is a snowy corner on highway 35 heading up to Mt Hood that you can almost always find a Yukon or Cherokee upside down next to...
ya this is definitely nicer
You probably never drove where there is piled up snow or when they have yet to plow the streets like up in alaska. Front wheel drive vehicles will only do so much.
crossover yes. most people dont need awd and rarely take their cars offroad. its much larger than other hybrids and not butt ugly or eco freak friendly. this car is common sense personified, it has efficiency, promises nothing bold, but delivers everything a road trip car should. even as a grocery getter, this thing slays the ugly ass prius
evan johnson well said
I see you Alex listening to Nat King Cole. A classy artist for a classy car reviewer.
D-tay94 surely that is staged
He wasn’t listening to anything but the engine, electric hum and gear shifting
I purchased a Prius Prime in 2017 for my wife. Since she drives it primarily around town, her mpg calculation determined 168 mpg. I have both 220 & 110 charge capabilities, but because the worse case charge is only 5 hours on 110, I've recharging with only the 110. We purchased the white color with the white interior. The white interior with black trim adds a significant level of sportiness to this car. I've replaced the standard Dunlop tires with Michelin Premiums & added a spare tire. I would not recommend the RunFlat tire types. The whole car handles far better during all conditions with the Michelins than it ever did with Dunlops and the mpg has not changed.
I've recently evaluated the Honda Clarity & I was so impressed with this car, that I would recommend to anyone that if you're looking for a Hybrid PlugIn. The only disadvantage is the display is smaller than the Prius Prime.
Alex, another excellent review, unbiased and throughly informative. As for category, not really that import, this car stands on it's own merits. If you need a four wheeled drive, move on. The Nero has staked it's reputation on fuel economy, and comfort.
I love it. I drive the Touring. Roomy and fun to drive. I get about 500 miles to the tank. Not disappointed. I live in the DC/VA area. Before that I had a 2009 Ford Escape Limited V6. Gas sucker.
Do you think the Touring model has a quieter cabin that lower trim levels?
Alex, you make some really nice reviews. thanks for all your hard work.
Thanks!
3:32 what is with those fuel figures? with a Niro, you can get a MEDIUM figure of 65 MPG easy !!! And i have a full spare wheel, as well :)
i am driving it for 3 years and it is a fantastic car!
I would say crossover I have the 2019 Kia Niro EX premium love mine haven’t have it for very long got it Friday night
Thanks for the review of DeNiro 🤣 Can't unhear it 😂
If I ever get a crossover, it’ll definitely be a hybrid
Your editing is amazing as well as your reviews. Thanks again Alex. Glad you sound better after your head cold.
The Niro is definitely a smart move by Kia because it competes with wide variety of cars but for me it competes directly to the Prius V.
IMPRESSIVE REVIEW..We agree with you Alex and bought the 2019 Niro Touring and absolutely LOVE IT!! The 18 inch wheels and tires make all the difference compared to the lower trim levels, there Michelin tires and they offer GREAT handling too..Very quite..Love the Duel-clutch trans over a CVT any day...And using the sport shifting makes a huge difference in power..I use it getting on the highway then put it back in normal mode.. Win-Win!!
Alex always thorough, you are the standard by which I measure all other car reviewers. BTW thanks for the explanation of the Torque values. I was confused last time on the Touring Niro review.
... and if you install a CamWipe, the backup camera lenses can be wiped clean whenever the rear wiper is on! With Michelin CrossClimate2 205/60/16 on a EX trim, I am able to get 61 MPG (vs57.5 MPG on OEM tires) consistently while the bumps are getting soak up by these All-Weather Grand Touring extremely quiet, excellent in handling and comfortable tires. You are right about tires makes a lot of difference.
As a Korean guy: I'd buy this one day Alex.
Hey Alex. Can you test the new bodystyle Jeep Compass in Limited AWD trim? Thank You Sir!
If there's a different ad setting which meets your financial goals and avoids interstitial video ads, please try it. Normally I watch all your videos, but "commercial breaks" make me want to skip videos until there's a vehicle in which I'm particularly interested.
I am considering this car because I need better fuel mileage but need to shop at Costco at times and need cargo area in the back that just isn't found on a prius.
Your review of the Ioniq was pretty glowing. Why did you give the nod to the Prius among the hybrids?
I traded a Ford C-Max that I'd driven for five years on a Kia Niro EX. I am delighted with the Niro, which is quieter, more attractive, more fuel-efficientr, and more fun to drive. The Kia's smaller turning radius is a big plus, as is its greater rear seat legroom. Kia also has included CarPlay, which allows me to link my iPhone to the Kia's screen for trip navigation and other functions. Other features I like more than I expected are the lane change and backing-up warnings when other cars are in the Niro's path. While the Niro is somewhat sluggish in the Eco mode, slapping the stick over to the Sport mode provides for quick getaways. According to the Niro's computer, I drive normally and economically about 50% each, with just a touch of aggressive driving now and then (it's never exceeded 3%). I'm getting 44-45 mpg in almost exclusively highway driving, not far off the EPA estimate of 46 highway. (The C-Max was initially rated at 47 mpg overall, but that was reduced to 43 and then to 40. I never got more than about 37 mpg.) Kia has some phenomenal incentives for leasing the vehicle; you should check them out.
This is the first review of Alex's that I have watched, and I found his commentary accurate.
like always,a great review Alex!the best.
I have a 2018 and 2020 these niros are awesome
I think it should have a sport button that greatly improves merging and passing. I tried the Prius V sport button and it did next to nothing.
5900 miles and never under 56 MPG. LX model, 280lb driver doing Uber and Lyft.
Guess what else the Niro does... There are no 12v batteries in the Niro! It uses the hybrid battery all the time and a integrated 12v battery/capacitor.
No US safety ratings yet, but EU gave it 4, 5 with the safety options.
Jason, just wondering if you have to pay extra to insure your car if you are Uber/Lyft driver. I noticed when I was insuring my Niro online, they asked whether you were I am considering maybe being a driver sometime.
Iam Ian There is an ad endorsement that is available for purchase that brings Ubers insurances up to what I have personally. Uber only has state minimum. If you have state minimum then there is no reason to buy the addendum. If you have 100/300 or 300/300 then it makes sense to get the additional insurance. My addendum was $33 for the 6 months coverage gap.
Thanks, but what I meant was does your own insurance company raise your rates if you become an Uber driver. I have over the State minimum now, of course.
Iam Ian no
Exceptional review. Very well done. I have subscribed.
The vast majority of drivers without homes with private garages, a pug in electric vehicle is out of the question so a hybrid is an amazing choice for most. Love this mid sized SUV shape compared to the Prius. Really like the fact that they didn't saddle the vehicle with an anemic CVT. The hybrid is superior for people who do a mix of driving and in fact the more traffic heavy around town driving the better as that is where the hybrid really shines. Since Tesla refuses to make a hybrid, and the VW Tiguan isn't offered as a hybrid, this KIA NIRO is the idea alternative.
Very thorough review of this vehicle. Wondering how you would grade the top end Niro equipped with Touring/tech package verses the Lexus CT200h FSport. Thanks.
Great review, Alex! You covered all of the aspects of the Kia Niro perfectly! I actually just recently conducted my full review of the all-new Kia Niro, too! It impressed quite a bit, and it fared pretty well in my tests! Keep up the great work, Alex! I am looking forward to your Ioniq review. 👍
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no way hat car is getting 50 mpg in REAL driving....BS
@@chadhaire1711 If you call "real" driving. If ur real driving includes driving 10+ miles over 70 posted speed limits, driving 60 mph on any hwy, street, stopping at traffic lights and stop sighs at the last minute. Just imagine enjoying a range of 475 to as much as 600 miles on a tank of gas. That's what I get with my 2018 ioniq...yes I try for high millage, but I'm not a "hypermiliager"
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Great review. Just the info I was looking for. Keep it up!
I know there are some concerns about DCT's (previous KIA vehicles and could also come up with this car) in general, however, I think most of the fears have come from people misunderstanding how DCT's work. Many are simply not used to how DCT's operate, especially at low speeds. Since it is an automated manual it will feel jolty from a standstill in comparison to a regular torque converter tranny. I have the 2016 kia soul lx turbo with the dct and while I only have driven it for a few thousand miles, I cannot attest to its long term reliability but so far it has been very, very good! I prefer it over a conventional transmission due to its efficiency and the problems with hunting for a gear being near gone. I highly suggest you try it out for yourself! Cheers everyone!
Talk about warranty? Is the battery covered in kias powertrain warranty? Hybrids are a pain in the ass when they break down
In the US it has the standard Kia 100,000 mile/10 year warranty for both the Hybrid components and the powertrain.
Yes for 10/100K. Kia has chosen not to offer the unlimited mileage warranty that is on the related Ioniq hybrid for some reason so if that's a worry the nearly identical liftback styled Ioniq has a lifetime unlimited mileage warranty on the hybrid battery.
Do you know why the Kia Niro isn't a Top Safety Pick for IIHS? I've been trying to decide between the Kia Niro and Hyundai Ioniq. I like the amount of room for the 2nd passengers the Niro has. It seems like a great choice if I have kids one day and need to put in/remove car seats. However, the Ioniq is an IIHS Top Safety Pick for both 2017 & 2018. Additionally, Hyundai offers a lifetime warranty for the battery, which is one of the biggest longterm concerns for hybrid owners.
Great video Alex. Appreciate all the effort out in to making this.
Great review, as usual, Alex! Ton of great info; you easily make the most informative, but engaging car reviews on TH-cam. Thanks for that. I would love to get your input on how this compares to the VW Golf SportWagen. It seems that might even be a closer comparison to some of the crossover you mentioned. Thoughts?
Glad I'm not the only one considering this comparison. Just sold back my TDI Sportwagen and the Kia Niro has my vote at the moment for replacing it.
Great review. Is there any info yet on when the plug-in version will come out? Definitely liking the Niro, just wondering if it might be worth waiting for the plug-in if it's indeed coming soon.
Yo, man - thanks for once again, a great review. Agree about the choice between all-season tire and AWD car vs. winter tire and FWD car - though you should have added snowy conditions mandate winter tires, and AWD vehicles in combination with those would almost always make the definite choice. Impeccable work otherwise, keep the channel alive!
Thank you, Alex, for a great review. I never considered the Kia Niro before. I agree that this blurs (again) the lines between a typical hatchback/wagon and crossover. Since it does not have AWD, but retains the spirit of a crossover, I would consider it a crossover. The Niro's market may be for people who want that look, but the efficiency of a hybrid.
It's a crossover because the seat is up higher than in a normal compact car. Subaru Crosstreck is very similar and also considered a crossover.
The Crosstrek has 8.7 inches of ground clearance.
Your videos are always so detailed and great keep it up!
did you replaced your camera? what is up with lower image quality.
Kia and Hyundai are killing it !
Got to say. I love this review style Alex. And while I don't recommend getting a 2017 due to first year issues I would look forward to a 2018 model. My wife prefers a vehicle that looks like a SUV and this would be in my top 5 list. She could care less about all well drive.
Hi Alex on Autos,
Can you review a toyota chr and compare it to this Kia Niro?
thanks.
He did....didn't you watch all the video?
I like that unlike the Prius it has a traditional car gauges
Thanks for this review. I am torn between the Niro EX and the Ioniq SEL models. I feel like those are the 2 at the top of my list. I kind of want the Niro for the higher up feeling but since I currently have a regular Sonata, the Ioniq would be nice because I would be familiar with the inside buttons and such. But the fact that I live in MN, I like the higher ground clearance of the Niro. Decisions, decisions. I still have time to think about it though.
Great review as always Alex! Could you please get in a review of a 2017 Toyota Prius V Five? I know it's the last year of the V and I'm thinking about picking one up. Would really appreciate it.
Alex, when performing your video ending comparisons, is there a reason you didn't select the Toyota Prius V? You used the regular Prius, and IMO the Prius V is probably a better comparison. Having said that I still think the Kia Niro compares favorably, simply because of regular transmission vs Prius CVT.
Your question asking if a 2wd crossover or SUV is no longer a crossover or SUV is a good one.
Whats the 0-60 in sports mode?
The LX is worth the extra money compared FE trim in my opinion. However I'm glad the FE is very well equipped in the first place. I'd likely buy this if I was car shopping.
Very well review! Well done! I wish you'd do Podcasts too
Here's a question. Is the front wheel drive uni-body Honda Ridgeline a Truck?
Most cars cars prior to the 1960's, including sports cars, were body-on-frame, so are those trucks? If you look at a 1950's Ford F-100 truck, those truck beds were small since they were framed within the wheel wells.
"our exclusive 24" roller bag test", "our exclusive truck sitting test" these jokes of exclusive to Northern Californian. you-da-man Alex.
at: 24:50 ... if the temperature drops bellow -40 degrees, i suggest you stay inside (your house)... and get lots and lots of blankets... there is no way you are going to drive at such a low temperature...
Americans don't like the term hatchback so if you just give something a slightly higher ride height and bam call it a SUV
It's all about marketing people!
Bill H did I call it an sport utility vehicle? I said here in the states, Americans typically don't like hatchback, it's the word, so all these small SUV that are basically hatchback wouldn't sell well, so they call it a sub compact SUV and it sells
Try reading next time.
i like hatchbacks and im American.
It's more of a wagon than a hatchback
Engineering question? With only one electric motor how is the engine cranked when in motion? Starter motor, alternator or does it just pop the clutch? I noticed in powertrain pictures it has a large water cooled belt driven alternator.
Technically, there are two electric motors, just only one is connected to the power train. The "alternator" you are seeing is the second electric motor that both starts the motor and can also charge the hybrid battery, it just isn't connected to the power train. It works well starting the engine, has not been an issue in the Sonata/Optima Hybrid, which has used the same Hybrid system since 2011.
Great answer, that makes perfect sense. Thanks for clarifying.
Yep, like David said. The second motor/generator unit is very small and isn't used for much other than starting the engine and powering the system while sitting at idle. Because of the design of the system it's not feasible to use the main MG unit to do idle generation and it's smoother to use a second MG to start the engine when needed rather than doing what single motor hybrids do which is a quick shift to neutral, then crank, then back in gear.
Thanks Alex& Dave! I have been reading and searching for the answer and coming up short. I am glad that Hyundai/Kia did it right. Its really pathetic how poorly manufacturers and media explain how these things work. But most people don't comprehend anyway....
Some like to keep it a big mystery. FCA for instance with the Pacifica Hybrid has never really explained the exact inner workings of their new hybrid system. It seems to be a blend of the old 2-mode system and a similar layout to what we see in the Volt but without more detail it is hard to say for sure. (Without sawing one open of course).
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Lexus CT200h. That hybrid hatchback is smaller than a Mazda CX-3, & the Niro Touring trim looks more premium. Is a car considered "luxury" if it has vinyl instead of leather seats? I like the Niro, but I think Hyundai/Kia have too many similar sized cars with similar capacities. Is it worth trading a Kia Soul ! trim for a Niro or Ioniq?
If you like a better ride and 15-20+ more MPG, yes..
I also wish they had the 4x4 option. But I'd still consider it a crossover for the reasons you mentioned.
When are you gonna do the Ioniq? I believe the Ioniq gets 59 mpg vs the Prius 58 by the way
Thanks for your detail reviews it helps a lot.
14:43 never thought I'd see the day when I hear a Kia is more engaging than a Honda
I thought the review was great, though would have liked to see a comparison with the Rav 4 Hybrid.
Also, I thought I had seen that the upper trim levels of the Niro have additional noise reduction, such as better glass, that is part of the increased weight. Am I remembering correctly? If so, it would see the cabin noise rating would be better in the higher trims.
I just bought one and it is not a crossover...Just a car with a little higher ground clearance..... Great little car though....We really like it..
Good review. I have been driving a Niro EX for the past 2 weeks. Beware of the Niro's weight restriction in the rear cargo area: not to exceed 130#/59Kg. I bought the Niro (EX) unaware of that parameter.
Soon enough, I will know if that rear area can support a half-keg of beer...
lol, the 130 lb. weight limit is for the small rear panel the warning is printed on! Not for the entire cargo area!
Your kegs are safe.
The term "crossover" is broad, since it basically means a combination of car classifications & features. If this was the 1990s, the Niro would be a "Minivan", like the 1st gen Honda Odyssey with 4-doors. It's probably called a MPV in other countries, just like a Kia Soul or Honda Fit. As with all car classes, the sizes have grown considerably.
Is Hyundai going to offer their version of the Niro? What about a hybrid Tucson? Give me a plug-in hybrid Tucson in AWD and I'd definitely buy one.
The Hyundai version is the Ioniq, which is built on the same platform/drivetrain but is more of a sedan shaped hatchback. That shape helps with fuel economy, though, as the Ioniq's EPA rating is actually higher than the Prius.
Hyundai has seen the greater sales of the crossover form as the Niro outsells the Ioniq. Their version is due in 2018 as at least an ev. . . . www.autoblog.com/2017/03/30/hyundai-plans-electric-cars-kia-genesis/
Thanks for the link.
Listening to "Technologic" by Daft Punk. Alex confirmed for great taste in music.
So fuel economy goes down if you have roof rails? I am planning to buy them for my kia soul but how much of a difference does it make?
About a 2% drop. In a Soul it's a fraction of an MPG, but when you are getting 50 MPG a 2% drop is 1 MPG.
Cool, thanks for taking the time to respond and letting me know! Glad it wont make a noticeable difference.
Show the backup camera & show the headlights / fog lights at night.
I bought a 2019 Niro Touring. Very nice, comfy, roomy for a small station wagon. Efficient, and with sport mode on, I need to hold back on the pedal or it will spin the tires from a stop.
Finding a category for the Niro is like finding a category for the Soul or the Subaru Crosstrek. The Soul (al least if I remember correctly) was a modified Rio intended to compete in a niche market that people started referring to as a crossover in 2014 due to the redesign and its endless cargo capacity. The Crosstrek, on the other hand, is just an Impreza with a lift kit and bulky fenders. Given its shape and size, I would consider the Niro a subcompact crossover, due to the Soul originally being a boxcar competitor and the Crosstrek being otherwise no different from an Impreza hatch. Those vehicles are not crossovers in my eyes. The Niro is.
How come this has more cargo room than the Limited model mentioned in your earlier review?
The LX, EX and Touring Models have a cargo area 'tray' while the FE doesn't, so there's a couple of inches of depth more in the FE.
Thanks for the 5 second comment on manual mode. Was that really so hard?
I dont understand why they make these so short, this would be such a more useful vehicle if there was another 1 foot of length for use in the trunk, just add it to the overhang behind the rear wheels nothing else needs to change, just some sheet metal.
In sport mode I read somewhere that it beats the Prius 0-60 by a whole second or more
I'm very interested in this and the Hyundai Ioniq, but I'm concerned with reliability. There are some complaints online about reliability issues, mostly stuff relating to electric and hybrid components it seems. When hybrid components fail it's insanely expensive to fix. I don't want a headache for a vehicle and the repair costs could end up outweighing the fuel savings.
Another aspect that bothers me about hybrids is that the gas engine is never given the opportunity to warm up before being driven, especially an issue in harder acceleration and colder weather. That cannot be good for the engine in the long run. I always let my regular gas cars warm up a few minutes before I go. Can't do that in a hybrid.
They'll warm themselves up if they need to be warm. Same with the batteries.
Would you call this a no-compromise hybrid?
Did I hear that right? Better MPG than an all electric Volt? Or was he trying to say Bolt?
Better MPG than the Volt when the Volt is running off gas, which is rated at 42 MPG I believe. Obviously a Volt running purely in electric mode is still going to get hugely better efficiency, if you go by the MPGe rating.
Maybe its something like a lifted hatch/wagon in the vain of something like a Volvo V90 CC or Volkswagen Golf Alltrack?
Great review!
Alex, I'm very interested in the Niro EX....we were considering a Prius V, but the Niro has more traditional styling and better fuel economy...thanks so much for your in-depth reviews...there are many "Auto Reviewers" out there, but I always come back to your channel.
Dan Claire -- The other factor you may wish to consider is that the Prius will be worth four times as much in about five years.
Brian P. Yeahhhh...I definitely worry about the Kia resale value and overall longterm reliability...only ever driven Toyotas, Hondas, and Subarus...never owned a Kia.
+Dan Claire as odd as it sounds, Kia has actually been beating Toyota in the reliability numbers lately. In addition to that their hybrid cars have a lifetime battery warranty. Resale value has generally been lower however the brand has been catching up here as well and I don't expect the difference to be too big in five years
In my opinion, the Niro looks much better than a Prius.
Protector of the Republic - Agreed...the latest refresh on the Prius is just a little too Buck Rogers looking for my taste.
How does it compare to Ioniq?
More room and usability but lower gas mileage. It's also selling much better so Hyundai will bring out a crossover on the platform in 2018