After +300 matches and a winrate of +30%, this video made me dump Juri for Cammy. I'm sick of charging kicks, sick of the low health and power and last but not least, an horrible CA.
@@alexmaganda5827 Crouching jab spam stops that ibuki sideswitching nonsense try it out one one of them and see if if they keep doing it lol.Force them to change their gameplan.
Here's why Ryu sucks - Very unsafe moves (Tatsu, DP, DK). - Slow walking speed - Short throw reach - No command grab - No air grab - Useless medium air punch that nobody uses, not even PROs - No pointing downwards airstrike (like Kage's, Akuma) - No valuable air trajectory strike changer, like Falke (air Tatsu is just RANDOM stuff) - No gimmicks (disappearing and showing on people's back, diagonal, or bouncing fireballs, etc) - Shittiest reach on normals - No block streams - No easy way out of the corner - No fat damage conversion from regular anti-air - No fireball game (every single character in this game has several options to overcome them ) - No "strike that covers distance quickly", like balrog, Laura, etc - No armor - No setup - Weak combo reset - Short reach on DP (Poor Oro is suffering the same issue, but I'm sure they'll adjust it)
@@atilacorreia even if Ryu doesn't have all of those stuff he's still good and I'll explain you why. His damage output is insane. With a good fireball and footsie game you can bully any Top character in the game without fancy stuff. When you main Ryu, never do a rushdown. Just wait for your opponent and punish / whiff punish him all the time. If you rush to your opponent you'll definitely lose. But if you're patient and tactical you can win all the time. Remember: what Ryu have and the other shotos don't: his damage output. I'd rather face a good Akuma or Ken or any other Shoto than a good and patient Ryu. They can drive you crazy.
@@kakkoishonen His damage his high, but not really high enough to offset his fundamental weaknesses. All the damage in the world doesn't matter if you can never land that hit in the first place. Top Tier characters still have explosive damage - the difference is that they have strong tools to play into those situations, where Ryu is just hoping to get a lucky cmk and not have his fireball jumped over. Even Ryu's core set of tools that he is supposed to rely on is very poor. His DPs have no range, and his fireballs are more risky than plenty of other characters. So WTF is he really supposed to do? There's no compelling reason to play this character.
What dowwnplaying he said what shes good at but i personally dont see karin top 5 either when you have these other chars up there id fight karin over dhalsim any day of the week absurd pressure he has with also being stupid to get in on
LMAO!!! omg idk why this video has me ROLLIN' Everyone is so funny and being sarcastic to each other, but yet it was WHOLESOME hahaha GREAT VIDEO i loved it!
Zeku top tier lmao they did not even mention him in the video and saved him for last even tho he is my main players have seen all his tricks by now.I have only fought against 5 of them ever.
Just wondering what makes Kolin good at high level? Or is it that she Requires high level to play good? What I see is a blend mix-up: She has like a frosty hundred hands, a dash and weak counters to almost anything. She can't pressure. And oh, her V-trigger ice wave is actually useful. So I would really like playing her better - I'm just at Bronze. One tip to want me to continue with Kolin...?
Justin is right, strap my boy Nash up. Also real talk I don't think he's that bad after the buffs, he's definetly not the greatest character in existance but he's got some good stuffs and goddamn he's still on of the most fun character in the game imo especially not considering dlcs.
I don’t play fight games but I’ve seen high levels of gameplay and hearing this banter is hilarious. When he was talking about Rashid I couldn’t do it. He said you can’t react to Rashid if your over 22 or some shit, and I was like Punk I watch your videos you expose people who think they are good like someone from the MCU like Nick Fury or somebody like that is paying you to do it stop capping. The people who don’t know you might believe that shit but I know what you do
Poison has "less favorable" matchups. Zeku is a good example of somebody who probably 6-4s her. But any of the really fast characters. Claw is another winner, as long as it's offline.
The invincibility nerf didn't change his winning conditions in the slightest hence why he is still very well regarded in the top levels of play as he is still a great counter to the likes of Karin and Cammy. That alone gives him much more value than you can imagine.
they are free. you can buy every character with in-game currency, if you play enough. for instance, if you have everyone besides dan, rose, oro and akira, then you'll be able to do everyones combos trials and easily be able to buy em all with currency to spare. Also, they run free trials for characters a lot so you can sometimes play them for free if you dont have them for like a week.
People shit on nash I still use him lol , I just don’t find it fun using Luke , rose maybe . The other two never touched prob should lol. But I’ve been looking at trying cammy a good bit
As much I love my main Honda as good as he is won.t able to be top 10 his defense not good his bad matchup even with shoto.s his worst ones are sagat fang gulie even though vskill1 helpful on fang mu in my opinion to deal with poison smoke on the ground overall it fine just got to be patience and defense problem x show that at evo it was very good the way of the character even though thecomebackkid is the best knows the character and matchup is my sensi taught me well I would never got what I am today of course train very hard for ranked or tournament.
Dhalsim in 1 because the lost of Punk against M.Crimson is actually and mentally touchable but Its not the best Character Dude 😂 Poison is 2. Im not sure. Guile / Karin / Cammy / Dhalsim / Rashid / Urien / Gouki / G / Ibuki / Fang ✍
How the fuck are some of those characters in trash....and how is cammy still at top....I never once felt like she was one of the best characters ...that girl is unsafe on all of her specials except ones that you can learn to counter....like hooligan dive kick and slide and her v skill...then she has both low health and stun....you can punish dps you can punish dive kicks you can punish spiral arrows....that girl only has speed and it frustrates people
As somebody's who doesnt play sf5 this is slightly sad because oro is literally the only character ive ever wanted to play and it turns out hes trash. Maybe ill get into sf6
When top/pro players discuss tier lists, “trash” doesn’t necessarily mean they’re not fun or you can’t do well with them at the casual level. It just means “on paper”, they have more bad matchups than the average character. So don’t get discouraged if you were looking forward to playing with Oro. He’s got one of the most fun and creative move sets in the game.
Tier lists like these only apply to top players that need every edge they can get to beat other great players, you won't get that good by sf6 so you'll be fine
@@wanusanus4061 i beg to differ. Whats with all the gatekeepers in the sf community lol. acting like you have to play the game for years to be any good. The hardest part about sf is its 3f input window that makes the game feel clunky and unresponsive as hell unless you double tap everything and give yourself carpel tunnel. I bet you, if i actually took the time to learn the game id throw your ass in the blender by the time sf6 came around rofl
@@tedofuentes6525 It's not gatekeeping to know you can't catch up to the pros in like a year and a half. It's hard to take your opinions on street fighter seriously when you can hardly link two buttons
@@wanusanus4061 Im not trying to catch up to the pros. Id be trying catch up to general player base, which isnt pro. Id only have to get to ultra bronze to surpass your rank
Who's in YOUR Top 10? (And is Rose on that list?)
its only rose
Make it funky. Put Rose. Lol
Rose
Can we all agree that the best PandaFG videos are the ones where they actually interact with each other
Not this Case
@@lucasrocha4199
lol punk put Dan in potential, said "we'll talk about that later" and then never explained himself.
Dan doesn't need to be explained, his style make him s tier by default
s tier for saikyo style! (did i spell that right?)
That's called Saikyo Power
This is Punk's tier list lol
25% of punk's tier list... this was chopped up so much
I like how Juri was completely skipped and just dumped in trash with no explanation.
There are 14 characters worse than Juri in this game. She ain't trash.
@@donkeydarko77 okay donkeydarko77
@@dxthhy Stay fresh, windowlicker.
@@donkeydarko77 thanks donkeydarko77
After +300 matches and a winrate of +30%, this video made me dump Juri for Cammy.
I'm sick of charging kicks, sick of the low health and power and last but not least, an horrible CA.
"My character is trash, my character is harder, your character is easy and broken"
The downplay is real
He does not want her nerfed she needs her speed slowed down a little she is faster than ibuki which is insane is she a ninja in disguise.
Who?
@@brandonrice1124 so but ibuki has way better mixups and sideswitches then Karin
@@alexmaganda5827 Crouching jab spam stops that ibuki sideswitching nonsense try it out one one of them and see if if they keep doing it lol.Force them to change their gameplan.
Panda Global has been killing it. Haven’t seen a team in America put in the work they have. Editors on point
You can't be skipping explanations like Ryu and Dan... Cmon
Here's why Ryu sucks
- Very unsafe moves (Tatsu, DP, DK).
- Slow walking speed
- Short throw reach
- No command grab
- No air grab
- Useless medium air punch that nobody uses, not even PROs
- No pointing downwards airstrike (like Kage's, Akuma)
- No valuable air trajectory strike changer, like Falke (air Tatsu is just RANDOM stuff)
- No gimmicks (disappearing and showing on people's back, diagonal, or bouncing fireballs, etc)
- Shittiest reach on normals
- No block streams
- No easy way out of the corner
- No fat damage conversion from regular anti-air
- No fireball game (every single character in this game has several options to overcome them )
- No "strike that covers distance quickly", like balrog, Laura, etc
- No armor
- No setup
- Weak combo reset
- Short reach on DP (Poor Oro is suffering the same issue, but I'm sure they'll adjust it)
@@atilacorreia even if Ryu doesn't have all of those stuff he's still good and I'll explain you why.
His damage output is insane. With a good fireball and footsie game you can bully any Top character in the game without fancy stuff.
When you main Ryu, never do a rushdown. Just wait for your opponent and punish / whiff punish him all the time.
If you rush to your opponent you'll definitely lose. But if you're patient and tactical you can win all the time.
Remember: what Ryu have and the other shotos don't: his damage output.
I'd rather face a good Akuma or Ken or any other Shoto than a good and patient Ryu. They can drive you crazy.
Play a real character
@@Batman56XD I don't play either of these characters, I still want to hear their thoughts on them.
@@kakkoishonen His damage his high, but not really high enough to offset his fundamental weaknesses. All the damage in the world doesn't matter if you can never land that hit in the first place.
Top Tier characters still have explosive damage - the difference is that they have strong tools to play into those situations, where Ryu is just hoping to get a lucky cmk and not have his fireball jumped over.
Even Ryu's core set of tools that he is supposed to rely on is very poor. His DPs have no range, and his fireballs are more risky than plenty of other characters. So WTF is he really supposed to do? There's no compelling reason to play this character.
punk downplaying karin madd funny
What dowwnplaying he said what shes good at but i personally dont see karin top 5 either when you have these other chars up there id fight karin over dhalsim any day of the week absurd pressure he has with also being stupid to get in on
Punk "Bro, How can she gonna be top 10 with 10 bad matchup"
that has me laughing.
Oro tech: if you wanna do forward mp without getting a FB push MP+LK instead of just mp
I saw Nemo taking about this
It works.
Right. Just my point. Saying he's trash just because you require getting used to execution is quite a lame argument.
We street fighter 4 boys!
The secret tech 🔥🤫
Cody is the kind of character where if you want to do less inputs but high damage Cody is your guy
For Sure TOP 10
@@twelve11 he’s mid tier
Punk’s SFV tier list - with commentary
With this tier list it was punks way or the highway. 😭
Always bringing the quality content
This is a wonderful video. Nice interactions! Thank you!
Is there a full video of this somewhere? I don't like how a lot of characters are skipped over.
Can't we have the full version pls ?
Just love how accurate Justin was in explaining F.A.N.G mains, aka me.
Really appreciate this guys, great vid!
The music it's a little bit high, but the video was AWESOME o love to hear the arguments, that list will help a lot Haha
This is what Sajam/Jiyuna warned us about
Also as a Rashid main he been top 5 since season 2
LMAO!!! omg idk why this video has me ROLLIN' Everyone is so funny and being sarcastic to each other, but yet it was WHOLESOME hahaha GREAT VIDEO i loved it!
Zeku top tier lmao they did not even mention him in the video and saved him for last even tho he is my main players have seen all his tricks by now.I have only fought against 5 of them ever.
justin was like i am gonna just listen to what punk is saying and make a free YT video.NiCE
Sorry bro, as a Bison main slowly converting to the sonic boom, Bison busted.
Easy top 10.
:(
His only weaknesses are meh defense and a lack of zoning tools.
@@happycamperds9917 Only? Some matches against any grappler, Cammy, Ken, young Zeku and others will surely change your tune.
@@ikaruga24 Those are rushdown characters, who beat him because of his meh defense and lack of zoning options.
@@happycamperds9917 Grapplers are rushdown characters? Kolin is a rushdown character? Trust me, Bison has more flaws than just meh defense.
Mad entertaining with these men
Editing is fire 🔥 🤣👌🏼
Dope video!
Justin wanting Rose to be in Top 10 is so funny to me
Top 10 in our hearts...
We need more of these longer videos panda
Punk killin me rn Manz funny as hell doin this list
wake up get up get out there as opening music.
I love it.
Just wondering what makes Kolin good at high level? Or is it that she Requires high level to play good? What I see is a blend mix-up: She has like a frosty hundred hands, a dash and weak counters to almost anything. She can't pressure. And oh, her V-trigger ice wave is actually useful. So I would really like playing her better - I'm just at Bronze. One tip to want me to continue with Kolin...?
Just watch videos of high level players using Kolin. Problem solved
Is there an updated list?
M.Bison being my favorite character, i am very pleased with this list
:) I've been saying dhalsim and guile are the best characters
Justin is right, strap my boy Nash up.
Also real talk I don't think he's that bad after the buffs, he's definetly not the greatest character in existance but he's got some good stuffs and goddamn he's still on of the most fun character in the game imo especially not considering dlcs.
My conclusion from this video:
Punk hates someone; Justin likes Mxxf
I'm here for the StarFox music.
These guys are so much fun :-)
I didn't know Punk was that young. I thought he was my age.
I don’t play fight games but I’ve seen high levels of gameplay and hearing this banter is hilarious. When he was talking about Rashid I couldn’t do it. He said you can’t react to Rashid if your over 22 or some shit, and I was like Punk I watch your videos you expose people who think they are good like someone from the MCU like Nick Fury or somebody like that is paying you to do it stop capping. The people who don’t know you might believe that shit but I know what you do
Let’s just call this Punk’s tier list🤣🤣
Poison has "less favorable" matchups. Zeku is a good example of somebody who probably 6-4s her. But any of the really fast characters. Claw is another winner, as long as it's offline.
Honestly ryu was at grand finals 3 weeks ago
Rashid and Urien are the best imo
Rashid, Urien, Bison, Guile and cammy probably top 5
@@in4mus85 Nah. Im Warlord with Bison, hes not top 5 but def top 9 or 10. Agree that Cammy is top 5 though.
Did they just skip the Ibuki conversation
Just noticed Justin Wong got same cadence as KevOnStage
Y'all disrespecting Juri
How did Laura not make top 10??
Top 10 is so broken the rest of the cast doesn't really matter.
since the grab invencibility nerf Zangief has been so god damn thrash lmao, only japaneses are still playing him and thinking he is "good enough"
The invincibility nerf didn't change his winning conditions in the slightest hence why he is still very well regarded in the top levels of play as he is still a great counter to the likes of Karin and Cammy. That alone gives him much more value than you can imagine.
If this was based on the players, little mac would be top tier
4 months later. Brian F's Oro.
Someone send this to LTG 🤣
i though gill has lackluster normals till i played oro lmao
what happened to cody?! one of the most classic capcom characters on the roster and no discussion :(
This tier list makes no sense. Sagat definitely isn't trash. Also Dan is definitely not that high. Dan is low tier dude
legit these people trippin for putting Dan at the potential
It actually blows my mind how long we've been playing this game... Coming from NRS games lol
I don't think Sagat is trash :)
Where is Punk from? His accent sounds kinda weird to me (English is not my first language).
I’m just waiting for all of those DLC characters to be free!!! I wasn’t even hype when those characters were revealed nor I don’t have the game yet!!!
they are free. you can buy every character with in-game currency, if you play enough. for instance, if you have everyone besides dan, rose, oro and akira, then you'll be able to do everyones combos trials and easily be able to buy em all with currency to spare.
Also, they run free trials for characters a lot so you can sometimes play them for free if you dont have them for like a week.
People shit on nash I still use him lol , I just don’t find it fun using Luke , rose maybe . The other two never touched prob should lol. But I’ve been looking at trying cammy a good bit
16:49 I defend your right to be in denial 😊
That star fox track tho
Damn, couldn't you have given an explanation for Lucia? I main her.
What about ibuki??
Oro in trash? I think he has potential
Bison is top 10, and it’s not even a question
Saint Cola had the good takes until his main showed up lol. Rose is not trash. Good enough for me. Buff Ibuki
Jwong with the rhymes
Saying Oro is trash just cause it requires execution is kind of a bad argument.
Surprised no Akuma in top 10
This tier list is on drugs bruh, how there only 3 placements (But I do agree with some of it)
As much I love my main Honda as good as he is won.t able to be top 10 his defense not good his bad matchup even with shoto.s his worst ones are sagat fang gulie even though vskill1 helpful on fang mu in my opinion to deal with poison smoke on the ground overall it fine just got to be patience and defense problem x show that at evo it was very good the way of the character even though thecomebackkid is the best knows the character and matchup is my sensi taught me well I would never got what I am today of course train very hard for ranked or tournament.
Dhalsim in 1 because the lost of Punk against M.Crimson is actually and mentally touchable but Its not the best Character Dude 😂
Poison is 2. Im not sure.
Guile / Karin / Cammy / Dhalsim / Rashid / Urien / Gouki / G / Ibuki / Fang ✍
I'm so Confused how nash is in trash yet won evo in Brazil.
Nooo ROSE WHY??? she is fun T.T ....Punk you monster. seen Justin defending Rose and Punk trashing her is the most hilarious thing XD.
What is this trend with people skipping Menat 🧐🧐
Rename the video Pink's tier list
We'll try to get Pink for the next one
How is juri in the trash section? I was with you at first until then
Cos she has awful damage
@@in4mus85 idk.. I feel as tho it's decent.. just gotta work for it
@@markem20r that’s the problem lol
@@joaquincoronel342 I would still say she has potential
@Daniel Astorga that may just be how none juri players are but the store is no issue to me
so ryu didnt get ranked?
He's in trash
Bison is legit broken. Everything is plus
Falke is the best, buff her capcom
Punk: Says I have the best Seth ever
Brian F: Am I a joke to you
_2:14_ *&* _16:10_
Im glad you put rose at trash tier i never play rose again
Wait Alex has potential????
I love this
I wanted to hear wht they had to say for cody and they just left it out... T_T
Same 😑
Watch punk's vod of this.
How the fuck are some of those characters in trash....and how is cammy still at top....I never once felt like she was one of the best characters ...that girl is unsafe on all of her specials except ones that you can learn to counter....like hooligan dive kick and slide and her v skill...then she has both low health and stun....you can punish dps you can punish dive kicks you can punish spiral arrows....that girl only has speed and it frustrates people
How do people defend dhalsim when y'all got full screen footsies lmao I gotta start the game off blocking on the other side of the map?
Punk is Snoop Dogg
For now!
Wish they talked more about ken
the way this was cut up is horrible. why skip ryu? :shrug:
As somebody's who doesnt play sf5 this is slightly sad because oro is literally the only character ive ever wanted to play and it turns out hes trash. Maybe ill get into sf6
When top/pro players discuss tier lists, “trash” doesn’t necessarily mean they’re not fun or you can’t do well with them at the casual level. It just means “on paper”, they have more bad matchups than the average character. So don’t get discouraged if you were looking forward to playing with Oro. He’s got one of the most fun and creative move sets in the game.
Tier lists like these only apply to top players that need every edge they can get to beat other great players, you won't get that good by sf6 so you'll be fine
@@wanusanus4061 i beg to differ. Whats with all the gatekeepers in the sf community lol. acting like you have to play the game for years to be any good. The hardest part about sf is its 3f input window that makes the game feel clunky and unresponsive as hell unless you double tap everything and give yourself carpel tunnel. I bet you, if i actually took the time to learn the game id throw your ass in the blender by the time sf6 came around rofl
@@tedofuentes6525 It's not gatekeeping to know you can't catch up to the pros in like a year and a half. It's hard to take your opinions on street fighter seriously when you can hardly link two buttons
@@wanusanus4061 Im not trying to catch up to the pros. Id be trying catch up to general player base, which isnt pro. Id only have to get to ultra bronze to surpass your rank