Crescent Moon Kohaku in Melty Blood Actress Again current code. She just straight up breaks the game. Her meaty b plant allows her to force a mixup, her charged 4B(the trip move) restands and can technically do an unblockable with it. she also has a lot of privileges that a lot of characters could only dream of having(show any clip of CT_Warrior as well)
I'd be all for this. He has a very down to earth perspective when it comes to teaching people about things they don't know or only have some knowledge about it.
I would be interested in a list by the Panda team. Maybe in a discussion format like some of the tier list videos done by the Smash players on the Panda channel.
Heihachi in vanilla Tekken 5 was so broken that he was banned on tournaments and they added the whole instant back roll mechanic to deal with his 10 frame bs combo. 1,2,1+2, ff2 I believe. He hit you with that twice and you were dead.
What's funny about Meta Knight is that he was unbanned for two reasons outside of how broken he was: the fact that the character's playtime was flashier and more appealing from a spectating angle than Ice Climbers (chain grab infinite), and because a supermajority of players played MK, so banning them meant that supermajority of players no longer had their character. Not even Bayo had this problem.
Missed opportunities imo include TK4 Jin, with how excessive some of his frame data was and a dumb launching unblockable, and TK5 Steve, where he could use the game’s high movement on top of his own movement techniques to fish for actual infinite combos.
They barely covered the true concepts of what makes CInder really overpowered in Killer Instinct. Infinites are one thing, but killer instinct has combo breakers. The ender loop was infinite but you could stop it before it started theoretically. What truly made him overpowered was a lot of other factors. His jump for one, he could control his momentum altering the trajectory of any jump. He could neutral jump and drift forward or backward. He could jump forward and slow it down which allowed for many ambiguous crossups. His trail blazer, he could change his momentum with that too and set up left right at the same time for unblockable openers. His fire flash, flip kick, dp whatever you want to call it, was fully invincible from startup to landing frames. Go ahead, use his light flip kick and see if you can punish it I'll wait. On top of that, his flip kick has the highest priority of any attack in the entire game with the exception of only 1. His flip kick beats everything, all specials, all projectiles, all normals, all supers, you name it it beats everything except for Eyedol's club swing. What they mention about him being OP is trivial in comparison to what encompasses his entire character. Let's also note that ALL of his moves with exception of his flip kick are double tap forward... He has incredible tools AND is incredibly easy on execution. You can mash with him and you will likely still outplay any other character. There is a video called Cinder, a Noobs best friend. It's an old video but if you want to see an OP character in action, watch that video. If you thought Bayonetta, Meta Knight or any of the boss characters were OP, Cinder can beat them all. Most characters in the list have 1 or 2 gimmicks that make them OP right? Like an infinite, or a glitch, but you patch that one thing, the character comes back down to earth. Let's list Cinder's qualities. Invisibility Teleportation Projectile Immunity Unblockables Unbreakables Infinites Priority only beaten by one move from the Boss of the game Guaranteed Stun Combos Glitch unblockables Unrivaled Air Mobility both Neutral and with Special Moves You can fix 75% of these and he's still a nightmare. It's unreal. They took out the ender loop infinite from the Arcade but he still has everything else. He's still broken beyond belief.
I 100% watched this to see if Ivan Ooze would be on list, or at least mentioned. Props to Saint Cola for knowing the truth! Ivan Ooze broke my controller!
Yeah, I actually bumped into Nick, along with Chad, Craig, and a couple of the other people in the then Screwattack crew at EVO 2016 since Nick entered Killer Instinct.
Most broken? Leopaldon in Guilty Gear Asuka. Most broken that's playable? Yoshimitsu in Soul Calibur 4. I will never forget that one Marvel vs. Capcom 3 tournament where both Phoenix players knocked each other into Dark Phoenix and spammed the same moves at the same time in an absolute scrubfest. It was hysterical XD. Everyone lost that day,- crowd, players, audience at home, and all.
12:21 I'd add a lot of smash characters. First their is Kirby from Smash 64, than their is Pikachu from smash 64, both have insain combo games and could 0 to death you fom anywhere on the screen, than their is Pyra/Mythra smash Ultimate while deafeatable, pyra can easily put you into tech situations where she easily gain the advantage and Mythra is the over all fastest swordy in smash Ultimate, most of her moves are frame 4. Smash Ultimate Palutena(pre patched) she had the best grab in the history of smash, huge combo potential, a nair that did 20+ % and comboes into itself and her range was good enough, on top of that she had amazing movement and movement mixup(although hard to use) with teleport cancelling, smash Ultimate Pikachu is also pretty broken, he has amazing ways to deal with swordies, a back air that can go under 90% of the moves from the cast when landing and an amazing frame data, he also has an infinite (it's hard to execute tho)
palu didn't have the best grab in history, bowser in smash 4 did. also pre patch diddy and cloud are insane ones to nominate and kirby while really powerful, i would argue isn't broken and that would more go to just pikachu
Others broken characters you can find: Johnny (GG xrd) Justice (GG XX Accent Core) Leroy (T7) Bob (T6) Steve fox (T5) Jin Kazama (T4) True Ogre (TTT1) Ogre (T3) Kazuya (T2) King (T1) Yun (3rd strike and 4) M.Bison (SF2: CE) Hilde (SC4) Heron Black (Mk10)
Can someone tell me where at any point in the top 10 list did they say that they were going based of of tournaments that 30 people attend or not using boss characters? I would love to see it.
Pet shop is definitely the most busted Playable character I ever played. His moves are so deadly and he is immune to lows as well. I have never lost to anyone I played in that game (and I’m not good at the game because I’ve lost plenty of times using other characters) Also, bang from BBCT, hayabussa from doa 5 and Steve in tekken 5 are pretty damn busted but at least manageable
I'd love like actual collab videos. I think there could be really good content with the players actually together on a call to make their own lists on this kinda thing & shoot the shit or talk strategy, whatever. probably hard to get busy people together though. this would have been the perfect topic to just have them argue with each other who the most broken characters are
why is jiyuna consistently the most annoying member of panda, the other 2 people were adding criticism and stories abt the characters and jiyuna was just like “pHoEnIx No BrOkEn VeRgIL rIgHt ThErE”
The list might as well include the Master Hand in melee, boss character not even selectable with a code but with a glitch. I think it could crash the game at will by doing certain moves, so Transends Broken brings the pain outside the scope of the game.
He’s not intended to be played at all though, all the boss characters on this list are. Tournaments don’t mean shit for this list and it gets really annoying hearing them talk about how “muh banned in tournaments”
@@jaiden3473 It's just a weird list to start with normal characters, intended to played normally head to head, then add in boss characters only selectable with a secret code. May as well been almost all boss characters, like The General is missing.
I mean does nobody remember Cronos from Bloody Roar? That damn penguin. Or Yoda from Soul Calibur 4? Any character that's not the same size as the rest of the cast is instantly broken. It's like picking Odd Job in Goldeneye 64. You know what you're doing when you pick these characters.
Y'all would have to make your own, ScrewAttack isn't even a channel anymore LOL. It literally changed its name to death battle and that's all it has anymore. Y'all make a list I'll watch that video
off the top of my head, broken non boss playable characters without hacks or code in fighting games i had played. kof 2003 duolon kof xi kula sf4 vanilla akuma and sagat sf4 ae yun ggxx r and ac zato/eddie if boss/unlockable characters is allowed this will be a long list lol
As much as I love Kokonoe, she was only broken in Chronophantasma Extend, not Centralfiction. If you're going for a borderline broken character in Centralfiction, I would say Carl Clover but execution barrier keeps him from reaching his highest competitive potential
Ivan Ooze probably is THE most broken fighting game character of all time. I reckon that can never be disputed... However. As a boss character, some degree of OP'dness can always be expected. BUT. There is a character who is part of the regular roster of Rise 2 Resurrection called Necroborg who has a lightning projectile move which has invincible frames. Hits full screen, and can be spammed constantly by just holding back and hammering away on the punch button. Truly a 10-0 win against every other character in the roster. No single character has a tool for countering this.
You guys are extremely knowledgeable when it comes to fighters, so I think you are taking this video too seriously. So I propose a new title "Fighting game tournament players react to a casual's list not based on tournament rules as if it was". All joking aside, I do think that you guys should make a list. I'd find it really interesting to hear a professional's opinion on this topic.
Smash has a habit of making completely busted character that are both fun to play as and against and brawl meta knight and melee fox are good examples in their respective games
@@DiscoMouse So ScrewAttack split away when the Rooster Teeth buyout occured and was rebranded as the Death Battle channel, which had fellow members split off onto different channels like GameAttack and so forth. Some of them are still active on their channels but others have long gone.
Yeah im gonna go ahead and just hope that justin, kizzie, and jayuna come by and do a tier list or a top 10 of the most broken because that screwattack list was crap
Why was jiyuna in this video.. I don't think he gave us any knowledge on any of these characters wtf he really just tried to contradict everything that was said
I have played a total of 3 fighting games series: smash, streetfighter, and fighterz. The only ones I've really gotten into are ssbu and fighterz. Joker and the Rat are stupid but not game breakingly dumb. UI Goku was stupid and still is.
This is the literal extent of my knowledge of fighting games since I was too casual to really get into any when I was younger (also I just never went online in anything)
Viola in soul calibur 5, she literally barely had a single bad match up. Some of the best poke in the entire game and most of it lead to minimum a 1/3rd or half health combo. Not to mention she had an infinite which is almost unknown to the later soul calibur games. She was absolutely ridiculous
We know this list is missing a lot, so give us MORE broken characters!
Crescent Moon Kohaku in Melty Blood Actress Again current code. She just straight up breaks the game. Her meaty b plant allows her to force a mixup, her charged 4B(the trip move) restands and can technically do an unblockable with it. she also has a lot of privileges that a lot of characters could only dream of having(show any clip of CT_Warrior as well)
Not only that, she’s meter plus after a metered combo
There wasnt a single kof boss character on this list...
half of the kof boss roster
@@ruebeliever8488 Toki from Arc Sys Hokuto no Ken on PS2.
Justin debunking fighting games misconception video would be fun. Love how informative he gets
I'd be all for this. He has a very down to earth perspective when it comes to teaching people about things they don't know or only have some knowledge about it.
I would be interested in a list by the Panda team. Maybe in a discussion format like some of the tier list videos done by the Smash players on the Panda channel.
Panda gotta make their own list now
Hmm... 🤔
@@FightingGameSelect please 👁👁
@@FightingGameSelectMany hands make light work, so why not make your own list Panda?
Heihachi in vanilla Tekken 5 was so broken that he was banned on tournaments and they added the whole instant back roll mechanic to deal with his 10 frame bs combo. 1,2,1+2, ff2 I believe. He hit you with that twice and you were dead.
At least he wasn’t Tekken 1 Heihachi
What about Steve from vanilla Tekken 5? If he sidestepped you, you instantly died.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN I thought that too, but T5 was so broken overall.
Screwattack....wow, that's a throwback. Thanks for the video.
What's funny about Meta Knight is that he was unbanned for two reasons outside of how broken he was: the fact that the character's playtime was flashier and more appealing from a spectating angle than Ice Climbers (chain grab infinite), and because a supermajority of players played MK, so banning them meant that supermajority of players no longer had their character. Not even Bayo had this problem.
Didn't brawl also have a clause in doubles that made it so you could only have one MK per team?
10:35 He went to Himalayan mountains to learn Hamon.
Came back to the season where that shit didn't matter lmaoooo
@@saintcola they patched out Hamon for stands to appeal to the kajuls.
Missed opportunities imo include TK4 Jin, with how excessive some of his frame data was and a dumb launching unblockable, and TK5 Steve, where he could use the game’s high movement on top of his own movement techniques to fish for actual infinite combos.
“Rye-you” - Justin Wong 6:30
Never heard Justin say that before lol.
Not a single boss from the kof series
seriously where’s my boy igniz at
Rugal KoF 98. I heard they was stabbing folks at arcades for picking him...
I'm getting real tired of the people sleeping on the franchise.
Justin calling Kakyoin "Kay-ko-in" is pretty funny 😆
They barely covered the true concepts of what makes CInder really overpowered in Killer Instinct. Infinites are one thing, but killer instinct has combo breakers. The ender loop was infinite but you could stop it before it started theoretically. What truly made him overpowered was a lot of other factors. His jump for one, he could control his momentum altering the trajectory of any jump. He could neutral jump and drift forward or backward. He could jump forward and slow it down which allowed for many ambiguous crossups. His trail blazer, he could change his momentum with that too and set up left right at the same time for unblockable openers. His fire flash, flip kick, dp whatever you want to call it, was fully invincible from startup to landing frames. Go ahead, use his light flip kick and see if you can punish it I'll wait. On top of that, his flip kick has the highest priority of any attack in the entire game with the exception of only 1. His flip kick beats everything, all specials, all projectiles, all normals, all supers, you name it it beats everything except for Eyedol's club swing. What they mention about him being OP is trivial in comparison to what encompasses his entire character. Let's also note that ALL of his moves with exception of his flip kick are double tap forward... He has incredible tools AND is incredibly easy on execution. You can mash with him and you will likely still outplay any other character.
There is a video called Cinder, a Noobs best friend. It's an old video but if you want to see an OP character in action, watch that video. If you thought Bayonetta, Meta Knight or any of the boss characters were OP, Cinder can beat them all. Most characters in the list have 1 or 2 gimmicks that make them OP right? Like an infinite, or a glitch, but you patch that one thing, the character comes back down to earth. Let's list Cinder's qualities.
Invisibility
Teleportation
Projectile Immunity
Unblockables
Unbreakables
Infinites
Priority only beaten by one move from the Boss of the game
Guaranteed Stun Combos
Glitch unblockables
Unrivaled Air Mobility both Neutral and with Special Moves
You can fix 75% of these and he's still a nightmare. It's unreal. They took out the ender loop infinite from the Arcade but he still has everything else. He's still broken beyond belief.
I always thought it was superfitting that the first incarnation of Meta Knight in Smash was THE META character.
I 100% watched this to see if Ivan Ooze would be on list, or at least mentioned. Props to Saint Cola for knowing the truth! Ivan Ooze broke my controller!
I will say, the time I did meet Nervous Nick years ago, they were running a KI tourney at RTX
At APEX 2015, he placed top 8 in KI.
Yeah, I actually bumped into Nick, along with Chad, Craig, and a couple of the other people in the then Screwattack crew at EVO 2016 since Nick entered Killer Instinct.
Justin, Jiyuna and Kizzie gotta fix that list
I love how the video time stamp for Ivan Ooze is just called "Kokonoi" lmao
"Did they ban the character or did they just stab you if you did it" lmao
I'm surprised Day 1 Ultra Ignorance from DBFZ wasn't included
"and you a megazord main"
A sentence i thought i would never hear in the panda channel
Most broken? Leopaldon in Guilty Gear Asuka. Most broken that's playable? Yoshimitsu in Soul Calibur 4.
I will never forget that one Marvel vs. Capcom 3 tournament where both Phoenix players knocked each other into Dark Phoenix and spammed the same moves at the same time in an absolute scrubfest. It was hysterical XD. Everyone lost that day,- crowd, players, audience at home, and all.
That dancing robot from “Eternal Champions” and “Rock-Lee” from the first Naruto fighting game on the gamecube.
12:21 I'd add a lot of smash characters. First their is Kirby from Smash 64, than their is Pikachu from smash 64, both have insain combo games and could 0 to death you fom anywhere on the screen, than their is Pyra/Mythra smash Ultimate while deafeatable, pyra can easily put you into tech situations where she easily gain the advantage and Mythra is the over all fastest swordy in smash Ultimate, most of her moves are frame 4. Smash Ultimate Palutena(pre patched) she had the best grab in the history of smash, huge combo potential, a nair that did 20+ % and comboes into itself and her range was good enough, on top of that she had amazing movement and movement mixup(although hard to use) with teleport cancelling, smash Ultimate Pikachu is also pretty broken, he has amazing ways to deal with swordies, a back air that can go under 90% of the moves from the cast when landing and an amazing frame data, he also has an infinite (it's hard to execute tho)
palu didn't have the best grab in history, bowser in smash 4 did. also pre patch diddy and cloud are insane ones to nominate and kirby while really powerful, i would argue isn't broken and that would more go to just pikachu
Emerl from Sonic Battle...You can equip a skill that lets him one button 99 hit tod
i like the part where jiyuna complains every sec he is on
Jiyuna wants all the smoke.
Others broken characters you can find:
Johnny (GG xrd)
Justice (GG XX Accent Core)
Leroy (T7)
Bob (T6)
Steve fox (T5)
Jin Kazama (T4)
True Ogre (TTT1)
Ogre (T3)
Kazuya (T2)
King (T1)
Yun (3rd strike and 4)
M.Bison (SF2: CE)
Hilde (SC4)
Heron Black (Mk10)
The noob saibot from ultimate mk3 too
I'm surprised Hilde wasn't on this list, as it was made right around the time SC4 was at its peak and she was banned at a bunch of tournaments.
@@ghmongo I just saw the evo 2009-2010 and ya...
Waiting for that Jinya list
Can someone tell me where at any point in the top 10 list did they say that they were going based of of tournaments that 30 people attend or not using boss characters? I would love to see it.
I find the lack of Leroy disturbing
Pet shop is definitely the most busted Playable character I ever played. His moves are so deadly and he is immune to lows as well. I have never lost to anyone I played in that game (and I’m not good at the game because I’ve lost plenty of times using other characters)
Also, bang from BBCT, hayabussa from doa 5 and Steve in tekken 5 are pretty damn busted but at least manageable
Oh shit a screw attack video this is some old school internet content
ZBroly from dbfz dude uses a level three as a combo EXTENDER
What is the song used at the end?
Melee itself is so broken it makes fox feel like Ryu
Hood ken is easily the best character
I love y’all roasting people tryna talk fighting games.
what game is the character from 9:15 from
NOT A SINGLE SNK CHARACTER?!?!?!
I'd love like actual collab videos. I think there could be really good content with the players actually together on a call to make their own lists on this kinda thing & shoot the shit or talk strategy, whatever. probably hard to get busy people together though. this would have been the perfect topic to just have them argue with each other who the most broken characters are
Just release Jiyuna so he can get a reality check on his privilege
Boss characters? Awwww man I'm now interested in what the panda boys top 10 characters are that are broken?
Never played a street fighter game, yet, but I know for a fact that at least 2 versions of akuma are going to be on this video
Toki from Hokuto no Ken comes to mind.
Screwattack, that takes me back. Wait the original came out in 2017? Why does that feel so long ago now?
my man called kakyion, kayo-ken
Tekken 7 Arcade Edition Akuma, Leroy from Tekken 7, Devil Jin, and umm Steve Fox Tekken 5.
why is jiyuna consistently the most annoying member of panda, the other 2 people were adding criticism and stories abt the characters and jiyuna was just like “pHoEnIx No BrOkEn VeRgIL rIgHt ThErE”
The list might as well include the Master Hand in melee, boss character not even selectable with a code but with a glitch. I think it could crash the game at will by doing certain moves, so Transends Broken brings the pain outside the scope of the game.
He’s not intended to be played at all though, all the boss characters on this list are. Tournaments don’t mean shit for this list and it gets really annoying hearing them talk about how “muh banned in tournaments”
@@jaiden3473 It's just a weird list to start with normal characters, intended to played normally head to head, then add in boss characters only selectable with a secret code. May as well been almost all boss characters, like The General is missing.
I am surprised to Morrigan and zero are not in this list
0:50 oh wow
I mean does nobody remember Cronos from Bloody Roar? That damn penguin. Or Yoda from Soul Calibur 4? Any character that's not the same size as the rest of the cast is instantly broken. It's like picking Odd Job in Goldeneye 64. You know what you're doing when you pick these characters.
MvC2 Cable! That's number 1 for me
I thought Gill can be picked. He was just an unlockable character
justin knows the history !
Y'all would have to make your own, ScrewAttack isn't even a channel anymore LOL. It literally changed its name to death battle and that's all it has anymore. Y'all make a list I'll watch that video
off the top of my head, broken non boss playable characters without hacks or code in fighting games i had played.
kof 2003 duolon
kof xi kula
sf4 vanilla akuma and sagat
sf4 ae yun
ggxx r and ac zato/eddie
if boss/unlockable characters is allowed this will be a long list lol
As much as I love Kokonoe, she was only broken in Chronophantasma Extend, not Centralfiction. If you're going for a borderline broken character in Centralfiction, I would say Carl Clover but execution barrier keeps him from reaching his highest competitive potential
Buddy, I love Carl but he's definitely not broken at all. He's very easy to punish lol
They gonna put boss characters but no Igniz lmao
Why Noob Saibot (UMK3) is not in this list?
Ivan Ooze probably is THE most broken fighting game character of all time.
I reckon that can never be disputed...
However. As a boss character, some degree of OP'dness can always be expected.
BUT. There is a character who is part of the regular roster of Rise 2 Resurrection called Necroborg who has a lightning projectile move which has invincible frames. Hits full screen, and can be spammed constantly by just holding back and hammering away on the punch button.
Truly a 10-0 win against every other character in the roster.
No single character has a tool for countering this.
yo where the Panda list at?
The way he said kakyoin
List by panda team needed.
Start with Sailor Uranus and then the rest of the sailor scouts
You guys are extremely knowledgeable when it comes to fighters, so I think you are taking this video too seriously. So I propose a new title "Fighting game tournament players react to a casual's list not based on tournament rules as if it was". All joking aside, I do think that you guys should make a list. I'd find it really interesting to hear a professional's opinion on this topic.
Seeing screwattack made me so sad omg lmao
Ronald Mcdonald
Rivals of Aether Workshop
Rugal
He just said a one button infinito tho. He didn't say it was easy.
Smash has a habit of making completely busted character that are both fun to play as and against and brawl meta knight and melee fox are good examples in their respective games
Kinda sad nobody realized that this video was nearly a decade old
Man is screw attack even around anymore?
@@DiscoMouse So ScrewAttack split away when the Rooster Teeth buyout occured and was rebranded as the Death Battle channel, which had fellow members split off onto different channels like GameAttack and so forth. Some of them are still active on their channels but others have long gone.
More screw attack top 10 video reacts plz
C-Roa. Melty Blood AACC. Remember kids, C stands from Crime
Yeah im gonna go ahead and just hope that justin, kizzie, and jayuna come by and do a tier list or a top 10 of the most broken because that screwattack list was crap
Old school Screwattack!! Nice.
So no CVS2 bosses on here? Everybody just had a great time with shin Akuma and ultra Rugal huh??
Mk trilogy noob saibot should always be on a list of broken fighting game characters
I want to see Justin's broken character list.
9:53-
Kayokin🥲
Why was jiyuna in this video.. I don't think he gave us any knowledge on any of these characters wtf he really just tried to contradict everything that was said
Exactly my thoughts man
2:44 LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
where the hell is Rugal on that list, he still banned in mexico and south america
Eyedol SNES killer instinct
Dragonball GT Final Bout: SSJ4 Goku
I don’t have words for how broken this sob was. 🤦🏿♂️
I have played a total of 3 fighting games series: smash, streetfighter, and fighterz. The only ones I've really gotten into are ssbu and fighterz. Joker and the Rat are stupid but not game breakingly dumb. UI Goku was stupid and still is.
This is the literal extent of my knowledge of fighting games since I was too casual to really get into any when I was younger (also I just never went online in anything)
Screwattack didn't really know much about Fighting games and this video is omega old too.
Viola in soul calibur 5, she literally barely had a single bad match up. Some of the best poke in the entire game and most of it lead to minimum a 1/3rd or half health combo. Not to mention she had an infinite which is almost unknown to the later soul calibur games. She was absolutely ridiculous
If i don't see vergil from umvc3 then this isn't a true list lol.
If we're talking boss characters, Igniz 2k1 is broken as fuck. 1 special move infinite, then add the rest of his bs.
No Old Sagat or vanilla SFIV Sagat
No Tekken 1 king with his df1? Oh okay
Smash 4 is defiantly the worst one.
0:23 So as it turns out, it’s not broken
The most broken character is hands down snoop dog in def jam fight for new york
Leroy Smith parried his spot on the list because he find it to weak
I miss screw attack.
Lol yeah people got stabbed when you did that in street fighter 3
Ivan! Ooze! If he aint on this list then it ain't legit!