@@Beck_Monro I mean, daemons were spirits. Necrit said it himself in this video IIRC. I'm well aware of the christian implications, but that wasn't what I was referring too.
@Amirus i mean he aint even trying to jump scare you away, hes just trying to get you to piss yourself before he eats you because fear makes essence taste better to him
@@Dr_Weirdoo not necessarily. her lore states that she took on a physical shape in only a few centuries due to the rune wars which gives us a rough estimate as to when she came to be, which by all measures isnt nearly as old as we can assume Fiddle to be. by all accounts Fiddlesticks is likely one of if not the oldest thing we have out right now
Fiddlestics with his voice said "Not Tedric" and then at the end of the video "Fiddle sticks". That's a full sentence cut in 2 parts. The guard calls out for Tedric but Fiddlesticks says "Not Tedric, Fiddlestics".
when i thought of the "a primordial entity that predates the rise of civilization" i think of the primordial emotion of fear. Things like greed, agony, and lust, and dread, which the other demons represent, weren't really as strong in animals until humans came along. But fear is innate in animals. And since fiddlesticks feeds off fear, he might have existed before the other demons since his source of food is available before the other demons' food. And maybe he doesn't understand humans because he is used to feeding off of animals for such a long time and when humans came along, he had a hard time adapting, but despite being unable to adapt he could still instill fear in the victims so he ended up not needing to adapt anymore. It kinda explains the erratic, non-human movements he has instead of solely mimicking humans. It also explains the animal noises he mimicks, if he wanted to scare solely humans he would probably have learned by now to use human mimicry, but he still uses animal noises (theyre in his voice lines, like pigs and horses). He can feed off of fear from animals so he mimics the animals' cries to make other animals afraid, and since in civilization, people have farm animals like pigs and horses, he mimics those mainly. And I don't think they would put in the "first of ten" line for nothing. He was probably the first of 10 demons to come, since fear is an emotion embedded in every living being.
I doubt fiddlesticks is trying to look human. I assume he used a scarecrow to scare some farmer and realized it worked well, so he kept it and upgraded it
I dont think fiddlesticks is sentient enough to understand the concept of stealth or what human is. Thing that seem to seperate fiddlesticks from other demons looks to be the fact that fiddlesticks literally has no thoughts going through unlike other demons who are exceptionally smarter than mortals. Fiddlesticks basically is like a robot that is programmed to make people feel fear.
"High above the rotten rows cloth and metal Teeth and crows fid-dle-sticks end of men fid-dle-sticks first of ten!" Maybe he is. That means we can expect 7 more demon champions.
@@angeltripper8518 swain is a demon, shaco is prolly just a really powerful something, since fiddle addresses every demon and IIRC doesn't have any specific lines for shaco (but does for the other demons, aka eve, swain, tam, noc)
@@angeltripper8518 none of the 9 demons have shown up yet confirmed by a rioter. He said Fid is the first of 10, considered a primordial demon, and that the other nine are not any we know yet.
YO I JUST FOUND OUT!! Suprise Party Fiddlesticks has an interaction with Zoe that says: "Nice key you got there, twilight. Didn't steal it from someone dangerous, did you?" Which clearly makes Necrit's theory about the key that Zoe has and it might be related :v
Would also explain why Fiddles has a chain of keys around his neck. Maybe he's collecting keys, searching for one that can finally unlock the cage inside of him. Also it might not be Zoe herself who has a connection, but just the Aspect of Twilight, hence why he says "Twilight" and not Zoe. I don't read much of the lore but from my understanding, Aspects sort of "reincarnate" over the ages, so maybe a previous Aspect of Twilight fought the demon that's now Fiddlesticks and sealed him away in that cage, and now has the only key to let him out.
the demon ‘fiddlesticks’ is not trapped, just like what Necrit said, it might be trying to find the key to free the 3rd demon somewhere that is locked up by the Aspects...
@@ondrejmichalek2602 Yeah my apologies, the connection was so cool to me I just paused the video and wrote it out. They're obviously still connected, but now I don't really know how. If Fiddles isn't trapped, why does he need the keys?
Chosen of Khorne my head cannon is that 1 purple boy hides some nuclear power under the land that attracts demons. That’s why this god damn place is so forsaken.
@@aleck5andrs443 yeah the caracters in the ww cinematic looks a lott more scared, but the fiddle cinematic has a specific kind of fear, it's my theory that fiddlesticks doesnt just go for plain fear but specifically terror.
In his voicelines Fiddlesticks says the following things: Evelynn - 1st encounter: "Evelynn" , Kill: "Agony"; Nocturne - 1st encounter: "Nocturne" , Kill: "Nightmares"; Tham Kench - 1st encounter: "Tham Kench" , Kill: "Addiction"; Swain - 1st encounter: "Raum" , Kill: "Secrets"; I think that Fiddle is calling the demons by their name when he first meets them and says what they stand for when he kills them, so I guess we now know the name of Swains demon? Fiddlesticks also says: "Fiddlesticks End of Men, Fiddlesticks first of ten", so maybe there are 10 demons?
I surprised Swain is the demon over Leblanc. In Noxian Lore she is older and more powerful than him. Or at least was. Leblanc is one of the founding members of all Noxia and liberated them from Mordekaiser back when they just a tribal people...
fiddlesticks (one of his voiceline, i can't remeber when he siad that) : Fiddle.....Stickssssss. When he respawn : "Fear" When he dies : "Horror" He either be "Horror" or "Fear"
@@rel_evan_tthings2836 She's not a demon, though. Vladimir is also old as fuck and started the Black Rose with her, but he has blood magic. Swain has some symbiotic relationship with a demon that dwelled in Noxus, which was ultimately built on top of Mordekaiser's Kingdom. So who knows where Raum comes from. But it's with Swain now. Also, she didn't really liberate anyone. Mordekaiser knew what was happening and allowed it. He wanted to die. He had an undead army waiting for him, and he intends to bring them back to Runeterra.
How about shaco? He is a demon to. By the way The creator of fiddlestick character said in twitter in his skin there's another demon . So basically in fiddle Skins in LOL there's a 1 Demon look alike Fiddle.
@@jmctv2000 Well, we have like 3 sentences of lore about Shaco so we can't really say anything. All we know is "Clown go stab, clown go haha" and that's it for Shaco's lore
Remember that the "Uncanny Valley" is a tatic to make people feel uncomfortable and almost fear people that look almost human but not quite. Fiddlesticks might be using this to his advantage to sort of 'prepare' people for their demise with as much fear as possible. He strikes in the shadows, and appears in places where it is already dark and ominous because its where Fiddlesticks can terrify people to the extreme. Intentionally preying on the weak and vulnerable instead of Demacian Elites because although he may be able to fight them, they do not give as much emotional energy then terrified citizens and weak soldiers. It is entirely possible that Fiddlesticks knows what he is doing, and is trying to make himself as terrifying as possible by simply being 'almost' humanoid and 'almost' sentient.
I like this theory more than what Necrit proposed. Fiddlesticks has clearly hunted enough people to understand how they work; how he knows to scare people best is proof. “Uncanny Valley” syndrome is a real life phenomenon that can be exploited to terrorize people, so for Fiddlesticks all he needed were a handful of tools to accomplish his goal.
Maybe he isn't actually aware of this psychological phenomenon, but since he is uncanny, it just happens to be a good scare tactic and thus he hasn't evolved past what he currently looks like
I think that he is indeed as old and experienced as Evelynn, but he stopped evolving to try and look like humans when he was still inexperienced, because the shape he had was enough to scare people. Evelynn needs to be as humanoid and attractive as possible in order for her victims to fall for her but fiddlesticks doesn't, in fact it is better for him to be off looking because that is what people fear the most.
look human but dont. Too many limbs mismatched too many eyes a mouth a cage Spider like crawl Super fast. can mimic victims to scare/entice victims. Sooo yea he stopped evolving because it wouldnt make sense for him to look normal. Everything he does is uncanny and just off which is scary. Even his mimicry is off. Its a voice but not a voice and its pitched up and down somewhat. Honestly all he needs is teleportation (which he may already have since the body isnt him. Hes just the spirit inside the cage. And maybe some translucent skin but he does blend in with his surroundings. Tho im not sure how he would do this stuffcin a bigger city or even town.
For the summoning circle: the lower right symbol looks like a lantern or cage. The center symbol could be a bizzare key. The line about fiddle being older than civilization could mean he's as old as the Aspects. The original demon that's part of fiddle and swain could have originally been an Aspect of darkness or dark magic that the Aspect of Twilight broke into separate pieces to prevent large scale destruction, since the Aspects of Twilight seem to specialize in containment of things that threaten the safety of the Aspects (the Darkin were sealed away possibly because they can kill Aspects without killing the host, preventing reincarnation and revealing a true death for celestial beings). It would also possibly explain why there's no evil Aspects mentioned so far in Targon lore: the evil or dark Aspect is incapable of possessing a host because it's not whole but also not dead and has been in that state for a very long while. The next demonic champion might not be wholly demonic, instead it might be a person with demon-like powers using an item housing a demon as an arcane focus that is mistaken for being a Darkin, when it actually houses what ever remains of the original demon (with fiddle being the body and swain possessing the eyes). That person would probably have a drain of some kind, since both fiddle and swain have a drain in their kits, as well as a crow aesthetic. Zoe's key might either unlock the cage housing the remains of the demon Aspect or at least reveal a way for it to merge as one with the summoning circle actually being an alchemical style transmutation process. The original aspect might have had a shadowy, crow-like body and control over dark magic or life essence. TLDR: Demon in swain and fiddle could be an evil Aspect that Twilight locked away and separated, with a third champion having a container of some kind housing the last bit and Zoe's key unlocking it. Possibly an Aspect of dark magic or life-essence with a crow-like body.
Raum is the name of the demon in Swain's hand. According to fiddlesticks: Fiddlesticks -fear Nocturn - nightmare Evelynn - Pain Tahm kench - Addiction Raum -secrets Apparently that's by order, from oldest to youngest. "End of men, first of ten" Meaning that there are at least 5 other demons yet to be born or we don't know about.
@@user-tu2dh5ro7i but the context of him saying end of men first of ten is him reapeating what sounds like a Brothers Grimm rhyme with very strong hints at being created long after his creation and first kills. His interactions probably aren't in order, and the actual game and interactions aren't actually canon and demons haven't been shown to be omnipotent outside of gameplay. Also if fiddle knows the true names of demons, why did he call the demon of greed and addiction Tahm Kench instead of his actual name? Tahm Kench is what he's known as in Bilgewater because the demon took the name of a gambler he consumed.
DireWolf97 Highlights The interactions are canon. Rioters stated in a previous interview that this is their only way of making the story "progress", besides the lore, in game because they can't pause the game for a cinematic here and there. Also, being omnipotent is fake, you can't be omnipotent even in a game or fictional reality/story.
@@DireWolfGaming97 Fiddlesticks is mimicing the voices, even if he knows Tahm's true name, it may not be able to speak it out because none of it's victims or victioms-to-be ever heard Tahm's true name.
@@justiny7460 - One of my friends has a parrotlet, he certainly THINKS he’s capable of a murder rampage. Of course he’s 28cm tall (~4”), so he’s only capable of destroying grapes and tissues. Adorable little psychopath.
to me it sounded like: Soldier: Tedric? Fiddlesticks: Not, Tedric. He kills the soldier. Fiddlesticks: Fiddle...Sticks... He Corrects the soldier's claim
The surprise party Fiddlesticks's interaction with zoe: "Nice key you got there sunshine, didn't steal it from someone dangerous did you?" It confirms the key theory that that key relates Fiddlesticks and Zoe.
What if fiddle seems inexperienced not because he’s “younger” but because of what he feeds on, fear. Since he can easily induce fear just by his demonic appearance he doesn’t need to take on a physical form or characteristics catered to a specific purpose like Tahm and especially Evelyn whose feed on more complex emotions like greed and lust.
I don't understand the point of the dude in the video. A demon of fear, named "the Ancient Fear", the "first of 10", that looks like a terrifying scarecrow with a scary voice and who took out 2 soldiers in 30sec top ? Sounds fucking effective to me. As you said, why would Fiddlesticks need to be more "human like" ? Lol. He doesn't want to fuck you or make a pact with you... he wants you to fear him/it.
Mister Sunlight the reason is because if you scare a human it will just run away. Fiddle wants to make you come as close as possible before revealing himself and killing you. That’s why he try’s to look vaguely human. That’s why he has a lantern. So that u go towards the light looking for safety following the voices of scared loved ones etc. etc.
@@LycanDreams9159 The video states that Fiddle is a young demon that doesn't know how to catch people effectively and that doesn't know how to look "human". But the thing is : looking human is... just not the fucking point. He looks like a scarecrow, it was common in real life back in the day, it looks common in Runeterra too, it's an inanimate object so it's safe... In short : looking human ? Not the point (a human in a dark wood is fucking scary btw, it can be a psycho or something). Looking like a simple inanimated object ? The point. But thanks for... huh... describing what was in the trailer I guess ?
If he does go for "raw fear" then why did he have to lure in Tedric's friend to scare him? The whole process seemed way too complicated for something that feeds on "fear". Fiddlesticks could've easily made the same creepy noises around the campfire then built them up to a loud screech making the soldiers piss their pants before proceding to chase them around the woods . There's no way that it wouldn't' have yielded similar results in how much "fear" was generated compared to what was in the trailer. In fact why does he even need voice mimicking and illusion magic when he could just run at people with his 5 limbed metal scarecrow form. That would scared anyone shitless.
I’d feel that there are two points we need to note. The first note is that Fiddlesticks feeds on fear, not on dread. Nocturne feeds on terror and dread through nightmares. You know what’s coming, since you imagine it. Nobody in their right mind would ever imagine Fiddlesticks coming to haunt them. I almost screamed when I saw the cinematic.
One of Fiddlesticks’ voice lines says that Fiddlesticks is the first of ten demons in Runeterra. We know 5: Fiddlesticks, Tahm Kench, Evelynn, Nocturne and Swains raven demon. He is the oldest of them all, and I think Tahm Kench is the 2nd oldest since they both have a lot of information about other Champions and that is shown in their voice lines/interactions.
@@jahsuo4254 indeed, but i also think he is trying to fit in, just not as a human as his objective is to inflict fear among his preys, an inanimate object is more fitting, i think that s why he chose to disguise himself as a scarecrow
@@jahsuo4254 I don't think he really needs to look/be human. Posessing human like form but not being human *enough* is the exact shape one should take to envoke the most fear. In people, ofcourse.
I honestly believe that he is the first of the primordial demons, most likely created when the first humans was created/introduced in Runeterra. Necrit”s theory that he is a young demon seems off, since Fiddlesticks only interacts with those other primordial demons by name.
@@bladekokiri 10 primordial demons, first one is Fiddlesticks while the other 9 demons are not known yet. All we know is that they are ancient and probably way above regular demons like Eve or Tahm
The demonic summoning circle reminds me a lot of an old movie called “Nine” (as in the number) where the main characters are puppets and of one main keys in the movie it’s a some kind of device that looks alike the circle. Maybe I’m just crazy 🤷♂️
Unlike the other demons Fiddle is not in a physical form, he a spirit...sorta....manifested into a scarecrow. This makes him especially more terrifying because well....we dont know exactly what he is, we can speculate and theorize it but we dont know %100 and thats why i love his champ design and lore
perhaps he's a fragment of the ancient fear? Nocturne is apparently feeding on dread not pure fear, but maybe it IS fear and that's why he's affiliated with the other members of the set? If all of them are aligned with the same emotion, does that mean they are literally related? IDK.
Well. There are people who played LOL for a decade and stayed in Bronze for 9 years and just recently demoted to Iron. That's probably the case for Fiddlesticks.
He is ancient, but it seems like Fiddle doesnt really know the most effective way of sucking fear out. Like Eve perfected her technique, Noc perfected his, not even allowing people to sleep, and Fiddle is still trying to find out his style. He's still learning, and maybe just earned his consciousness not too long ago.
@@highjumpkick999 "Fiddle doesn't really know the most effective way of sucking fear out" He took out those two soldiers in the cinematic pretty effectively I'd say
Did you notice when fiddlesticks first sats “help me”, and the guard turns back to see the swinging light, tedricks helmet moved from the ground to the bench
11:44 I think the 3 circles likely have something to do with the 3 towers of the immortal bastion. It's also noted that swain got his powers from a demon lurking inside of the immortal bastion. I don't think that demon was fiddlesticks but I think the demon inside of the immortal bastion and fiddlesticks are related. Maybe they are the same "species" of demon. The similarities between fiddle and swain are definitely there. Also fiddlesticks has a voiceline when interacting with swain where he says "RAUM...". Raum could be the name of the demon Swain made his bargain with, and possibly a future champion (i hope)
Fiddlesticks uses his “body” as a puppet. All of his skins are cannon because he tries to blend in to the different regions of runeterra. He likes to mimic his surroundings. He mimics the voices of his prey. Also, when he says he’s the first of ten, he’s implying that he’s the most ancient of the demons. He feeds off of fear, which is the most basic and primal emotion. The other emotions that other demons feed off of only arose when civilizations arose.
9:12 He's so ancient that he has actually mastered the realm of the uncanny valley(the point where humanoid things like ventriloquist dummies and vocaloids can be scary)
Wait that actually makes sense considering what his character is all about. In theory, he doesn't just feed on general fear, but on uncanny fear. He wants his victim's to think "Something's not right...", which explains the voice mimmicking and humanoid form.
The summoning circle theory really makes sense tbh. The 'Eye' belongs to Swain, the lower left 'Figure' belongs to Fiddle, while the lower right looks like a scissor of some sort. I'd say it Noc's blades. (EDIT: I said Noc's blade without explanation. Wha I meant was "It LOOKED like Noc's blade. Misunderstandings.)
I'm pretty sure the demons themselves wouldn't collaborate since they're territorial. Evelynn's voice lines tell Kench to pretty much fuck off her land.
@@Crownsnek probably because they arent 'brothers'. Considering the theory true, then Fiddle, Swain's crow, and the other is one and the same. Most likely they will want to unite.
Fiddelstick says: "Not Tedric" followed up with his second "sentence" with Fiddlesticks. He said the name because the guard was calling out Tedric but it was not tedric it was like fiddle said Fiddlesticks
people named him fiddlesticks as far as i know they know hes out there and talk about him so im sure people who are aware hes out there is calling him fiddlesticks
Now that his voice has been released it's confirmed that fiddlesticks is "the first of ten" so that either means that he is the oldest known primordial demon out of only 10(like a 4 horesmen of apocalypse in the world of runeterra) or there are more creatures like him, and he also reveals that Swain's demon is named Raum
My setup is a bit inconsistent so depending on how far/close I am to the mic, there might be a slight difference. I wish I knew what I did differently this time.
Nocturne: _I'm the scariest champion in League_ Warwick: _Are you sure about that?_ *Distant voice in the background* ~Amateurs!! Both Nocturne and Warwick looking at the guy who said it: Tf did you just say? Fiddlesticks: *AMATEURS!!!*
correction: Both Nocturne and Warwick looking at the guy who said it, they see a scarecrow: Tf did you just say? From behind: _I'm the scariest champion in League_
i found something interesting when i played league a while ago. when i was pinging our maokai (my friend) for fun half way through my barrage of pings it didn't show the usual "maokai: Alive" ping it showed "Shiol: Alive" i think riot messed up their code and i found the new champ's name. Edit: not really sure if the name really was shiol i just knew it's name had an "shi" in it (didn't pay too much attention because we we all pinged maokai with question marks and alive pings) so maybe the name was inaccurate
Lulu's Polymorph changes the champion name in chat! Squill, Cupcake, Kitty, Dragon, Snowman, Seal! Every skin another name. Maybe it was the enemy Lulu who used her W on the Maokai? :)
Fiddle respond to the guy “Not Tedrick ! Fiddle” Also what’s interesting is that Fiddle’s “T” pose is exactly how the bottom left symbol shows. While the “Eye” assumingly to be Swain’s demon hand, one of Swain’s skill (i think it’s his W) releases an “Eye” shaped dark matter/energy. I’m assuming the bottom right, the last of the 3. Is going to be the next champion that resembles the symbol ? Either through one of his skill set or his animation/visual effects. I guess when all 3 of these energy/matter manages to “reunite or combine”, it brings back this Dark entity ? I’m also assuming Zoe stole one of the keys to prevent whatever “It” is, from existing.
Naughty Snowball first of 10. Meaning maybe fiddlesticks is the oldest, or the most powerful of the demons. The creature likely learned quickly that it could inspire greater fear by working secretly with the humans. Of course the humans are unaware that’s what they are doing, but that’s the point. Much as tahm decided to take the form he did based on the stories told about him, fiddlesticks probably did the same, adopting an iconic form and tailoring his methods of hunting around that. The difference being tahm has likely a better understanding of humans and tries to be friendly and disarming. Fiddlesticks loves to cause fear, and increase the tension, so playing mind games with his prey, twisting the voices of loved ones, and generally being a predator that kills with 0 remorse is very in theme for him.
@@Motleydoll123 Apparently, Tahm kench, Evelyn and Nocturne aren't some of the original 10 (confirmed by riot writer) Apparently Fiddlle is an ancient primordial evil much stronger and older than them, hence why he doesn't try to act human. I would venture a guess that Fiddle is more in tier with Kindred over the other demons.
to be honest, he would 100% make me shit myself because i really am creeped out by the uncanny valley , which is what he presicesly is doing, imagine you are on a field durimg midnight searching for your friends because they didnt returned after 3 days, you are out there and see a figure, standing like a man who is just getting a little break after reaping, you talk to him "Hey you! Have you seen my friends? They were supposed to be back three days ago from the fields", "he" says nothing, then you take another look and mutter to yourself"oh damn, thats just a scarecrow, huh, a really realistic one at that", but then you hear a shrieking voice "HELP MEEE" and notice the scarecrow coming at you hellishly fast, "HOLY SHIT, WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT, OH GOD I HAVE TO GET AWAY FROM IT!!!" are the only words in your mind, but its too late, it caught up to you, reavealing a scarecrow made from metal and cloth and as you were too familiar with the thing was supposed to be, you left your guard down, in your dying screams you learned that it mimicks you, in hoping to lure in or scare its next victims you cant do nothing but succumb
man really loved this explanation, hadn't thought that there'd be much to explain about a 2 minute trailer but the part where you compared fiddle to the other demons really made of lot of sense, thanks again best yt channel
I'm planning a long d&d campaign in runeterra and your videos always inspire me up, thanks! Cool fiddle lookup, one of the most interesting reworks overall
On his official voices video on 4:06 he said “Fiddlesticks end of men, fiddlesticks first of ten!” which makes me think that there might be ten of these demons (evelynn, tham kench, so on) and he was the first of them making him the ancient fear.
Necrit, I really hope you read these, but I found something potentially big. On the screen to customize and select your runes in-game, the background of all 5 of em are places in runeterra! Precision seems to be demacia, domination is noxus, sorcery frejliord, inspiration targonia and I'm guessing resolve in ionia or ixtal. Please read this, but there's also a chance you've already made a video on this I haven't watched. If so, sorry to annoy you. But if not, we may have figured out where ryze is going next based on his cinematic, or where....SYLAS! THATS WHERE HES GOING! HES GETTING THE RUNE BECAUSE HE SENSES IT! HIM AND RYZE ARE GOING TO FIGHT FOR IT! Think about it! Ryze was missing either the sorcery or inspiration rune, either of which are in he frejliord, and sylas said in his story that he heard about takes of magic in the north, hence him going there and the ice magic they have. Even he rune descriptions fit with what each region is! Inspiration is become a god, outsmart mortals for the aspects of targonia, precision is live for ever and honor and the such, just like demacia, domination is odviously noxian, resolve in solitary and spiritual, just like ionia and lastly sorcery is the frejliord! Oh this would be a amazing turnpoint! If you read this, let me now where I went wrong, so I can resolve it, but holy hell, if this actually is what the new story will be....
He's moving that way because that's how he moves when he uses his ultimate. Most don't realize it because he follows up his ult with another attack but he moves just like that during his ultimate.
In Surprise Party Fiddlesticks, he says to Zoe when he kills her: "Nice key. Didn't steal it from someone dangerous, did you?" Or something like that. I feel like this confirms that Fiddlesticks is the orignial keyholder.
I think fiddlesticks enjoys the hunt and the fear he can cause using his body to adapt to scare people whilst he hunts but also to use the scarecrow appearance to blend as a scare crow to allow for initial fear
When Fiddlesticks talks with his own voice what he says is "Not Tedrick", and at tthe end he says his name, so it could be one sentence in 2 parts. "Not Tedrick, Fiddlesticks."
Fun fact, one of surprise party fiddlesticks voice lines towards Zoe is actually; "Nice key you got there, twilight. Didn't steal it from someone dangerous, did you?"
Necrit, you're probably right about the Zoe theory. Cause when Fiddlesticks first encounter Zoe. He will say this line:"Nice key you got there, Twilight. Didn't steal it from someone dangerous did yoy?"
Zoe has key from Fiddlesticks he says that line on his surprise party skin.He says something like:„Did you steal those keys from someone dangerous”.I don't know if he is referring to him self but we have that at least.
Something very important to note about Zoe's key: In one of surprise party Fiddle's special interactions with Zoe, he asks her "Nice key you got there, didn't steal it from someone dangerous did you?"
You are right innsaying fiddlestick can use all parts of his body as legs, and the idea that he would be bipedal is flawrd unless he is trying to mimic a human, hence why he walks so funny on two legs. During the slow motion I realise he has a second set of arms helping him run. Which either elludes that fiddle is a four arm demon, or that when he does charge be will indeed add as many limb as he need to keep gain or surpass the speed of his ennemy,
I have never put to much attention to the lore but now that I am, I'll say this: Swain's demon and this demon called "Fiddlesticks" it's the same or at least, as someone said before me, parts of the same entity. The crows are the link and since Riot reads the community theories and stick them together very well this is the one I find the most interesting. Btw, Nice job on your videos. you really take the time to think through so many things and get something that makes sense out of it xD. Keep it up :D
the crows are likely a note to the fact that he's reminiscent to a scarecrow. when we see him in the cinematic, his first pose is very scarecrow. he's similar to a scarecrow in that scarecrows exist for the purpose of scaring crows, and similarly, fiddle is being a humanoid 'scarecrow' to scare people before taking their essence.
I love this just because it really adds to the whole fear aspect of him. Probably doesn't even know what it's saying, it just mimics the last words and thoughts of it's victims.
"Fiddlestick's tying to look human"
Me: He is a little confused but he's got the spirit
No, he IS the spirit~
@@johnj.spurgin7037 confusing christian noise
@@Beck_Monro I mean, daemons were spirits. Necrit said it himself in this video IIRC.
I'm well aware of the christian implications, but that wasn't what I was referring too.
@@johnj.spurgin7037 Not. yet.
@@johnj.spurgin7037 i know, just joking
"probably younger than Evelynn" turns out to be literally as old as existence itself lol
@Amirus i mean he aint even trying to jump scare you away, hes just trying to get you to piss yourself before he eats you because fear makes essence taste better to him
@Amirus ah....well my brain obviously aint functioning right. sorry bout that mate
@Amirus tis a shame really. was really hopping to reach grand master comment rank, lol
Isnt Evelynn that Old as well?
@@Dr_Weirdoo not necessarily. her lore states that she took on a physical shape in only a few centuries due to the rune wars which gives us a rough estimate as to when she came to be, which by all measures isnt nearly as old as we can assume Fiddle to be. by all accounts Fiddlesticks is likely one of if not the oldest thing we have out right now
Fiddlestics with his voice said "Not Tedric" and then at the end of the video "Fiddle sticks". That's a full sentence cut in 2 parts. The guard calls out for Tedric but Fiddlesticks says "Not Tedric, Fiddlestics".
Nice catch
That’s a really cool way of looking at it.
Gives fiddles more of a immature nature while still being terrifying.
No, this is Patrick!
Not draven, draaaaaaaaaaaaaven
Wrong, but that's good too. No, he said "Tedric we killed"
The fact fidd DOESN'T have an actual body but still able to manifest in the living world is something worth concerning.
He reminds me of pennywise
@@bingpong2938 except fidd makes pennywise look like a cute puppy
Yeah lol.
reminds me of venom for some reason bc of his tongue skills
TheCommentGuy nba on tnt
'tHIS is THE SCRAriEst cHampION evEr'
Old Lolly Poppy: *boo*
Oh god *Poppy Jumpscare Flashbacks*
There's the candy skin of lulu that's nightmare fuel
you just remembered me of the first time I saw that skin, I still remember that slight jumpscare when I entered the loading screen
Don't remind us that monstrosity
Old Soraka: *Boo*
"Evelynn has the prey come all on its own."
Boy howdy does she ever.
She can take ALL of my "life essence".
Necrit : the demons get bigger and bigger as time passes by
*Me looks at evelynn*
Oh yep, she’s definetly growing biGGer if you know what im sayin;)
@@dr.drought6590 oh i know ;)
Necrit: They're just racist toward mages.
Me: *trying not to mention Hashinshin*
He is a Demacian
LMAO
Filthy mages
If Hashinshin is Demacian then what is Tyler1? Noxian?
@@jsc1jake512 Nah he's a traitor to Draven T1 is a Riven
Malphite and Fiddlesticks would make good friends with each other
*They're both moving as fast as they can*
Underrated 😂😭
This comment rocks.
Get it? Rocks? 😏😎
@@BeinIan LOOOOOOL good one
@@BeinIan Dwayne the *Malphite* Johnson
"They haven't come back from the fields...it's been three days"
"It's in the house!"
"Don't open..your...eyes!"
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@@intuition_lol1 his in teractions are out. and Strange W A V E
sayd some of them
interactions*
Thats whats creepy about him, he repeats the last words of his victims.
No! NO!
when i thought of the "a primordial entity that predates the rise of civilization" i think of the primordial emotion of fear. Things like greed, agony, and lust, and dread, which the other demons represent, weren't really as strong in animals until humans came along. But fear is innate in animals. And since fiddlesticks feeds off fear, he might have existed before the other demons since his source of food is available before the other demons' food. And maybe he doesn't understand humans because he is used to feeding off of animals for such a long time and when humans came along, he had a hard time adapting, but despite being unable to adapt he could still instill fear in the victims so he ended up not needing to adapt anymore. It kinda explains the erratic, non-human movements he has instead of solely mimicking humans. It also explains the animal noises he mimicks, if he wanted to scare solely humans he would probably have learned by now to use human mimicry, but he still uses animal noises (theyre in his voice lines, like pigs and horses). He can feed off of fear from animals so he mimics the animals' cries to make other animals afraid, and since in civilization, people have farm animals like pigs and horses, he mimics those mainly. And I don't think they would put in the "first of ten" line for nothing. He was probably the first of 10 demons to come, since fear is an emotion embedded in every living being.
That makes a lot of sense, and I wouldn't be surprised if Fiddle was the strongest out of the demons because fear is the strongest emotion as well.
You are.. actually correct.
Fiddle IS the first of ten. He did kill animals, and can't make up human sounds yet. Smart
genius like so necrit can see
But he maybe changed hes food source from animals to humans bc humans are richer with fear than animals.
I doubt fiddlesticks is trying to look human. I assume he used a scarecrow to scare some farmer and realized it worked well, so he kept it and upgraded it
He even has animal sound like pig squilling. He is probably alot at farms and kills humans & animals alike
Matt Ezuka Good point
T posing to assert dominance
I dont think fiddlesticks is sentient enough to understand the concept of stealth or what human is. Thing that seem to seperate fiddlesticks from other demons looks to be the fact that fiddlesticks literally has no thoughts going through unlike other demons who are exceptionally smarter than mortals. Fiddlesticks basically is like a robot that is programmed to make people feel fear.
I mean theres one of his voiceline say "its been three days they havent get out of the farm" or something like that i dont remember
"..Fiddlesticks first of ten.."
If he is the first of ten he is probably more ancient than evelynn
"High above the rotten rows
cloth and metal
Teeth and crows
fid-dle-sticks
end of men
fid-dle-sticks
first of ten!"
Maybe he is. That means we can expect 7 more demon champions.
@@MrNickPresley We have Eve, Tahm, Fiddle, Nocturne, and possibly Shaco. so 5-6 more
@@MrNickPresley 5 if we count shaco and nocturne. Shaco is outdated and Noc is definetly a demon.
@@angeltripper8518 swain is a demon, shaco is prolly just a really powerful something, since fiddle addresses every demon and IIRC doesn't have any specific lines for shaco (but does for the other demons, aka eve, swain, tam, noc)
@@angeltripper8518 none of the 9 demons have shown up yet confirmed by a rioter. He said Fid is the first of 10, considered a primordial demon, and that the other nine are not any we know yet.
YO I JUST FOUND OUT!!
Suprise Party Fiddlesticks has an interaction with Zoe that says:
"Nice key you got there, twilight.
Didn't steal it from someone dangerous, did you?"
Which clearly makes Necrit's theory about the key that Zoe has and it might be related :v
Would also explain why Fiddles has a chain of keys around his neck. Maybe he's collecting keys, searching for one that can finally unlock the cage inside of him.
Also it might not be Zoe herself who has a connection, but just the Aspect of Twilight, hence why he says "Twilight" and not Zoe. I don't read much of the lore but from my understanding, Aspects sort of "reincarnate" over the ages, so maybe a previous Aspect of Twilight fought the demon that's now Fiddlesticks and sealed him away in that cage, and now has the only key to let him out.
@@bugjams "The demaon is not trapped"
@@bugjams yeah, Necrit showed in the video that riot said the demon isnt trapped in the cage
the demon ‘fiddlesticks’ is not trapped, just like what Necrit said, it might be trying to find the key to free the 3rd demon somewhere that is locked up by the Aspects...
@@ondrejmichalek2602
Yeah my apologies, the connection was so cool to me I just paused the video and wrote it out. They're obviously still connected, but now I don't really know how. If Fiddles isn't trapped, why does he need the keys?
"Evelynn got bigger and bigger."
Yeah, I see what you mean
"He's kind of like a parrot really" You have really weird parrots there ....
wait aren't your parrots demonic monsters with distorted voices?
You've never heard of a cockatoo have you.
rook actually can mimic voices and sounds too so I think it came from that
@@Ederius939 Wait a minute, that's not normal?
@Cressecredan okay good, I was thinking of seeing a vet.
"Fiddlesticks is probably younger than Evelyn"
Meanwhile in the Lore: He is as old or older than Aurelion Sol
Yep, first scream of creation
Just say one word "Fear" and thats the whole cinematic
Fear in demacia because all the demons are in demacia
Chosen of Khorne my head cannon is that 1 purple boy hides some nuclear power under the land that attracts demons. That’s why this god damn place is so forsaken.
Warwicks cinematic did it better, we could see several forms of fear in there. Fiddle's cinematic is not as good, there is no dynamic.
@@aleck5andrs443 I disagree. Warwick's cinematic is closer to 'gore horror' while Fiddlesticks' is more on 'psychological horror'.
@@aleck5andrs443 yeah the caracters in the ww cinematic looks a lott more scared, but the fiddle cinematic has a specific kind of fear, it's my theory that fiddlesticks doesnt just go for plain fear but specifically terror.
In his voicelines Fiddlesticks says the following things:
Evelynn - 1st encounter: "Evelynn" , Kill: "Agony";
Nocturne - 1st encounter: "Nocturne" , Kill: "Nightmares";
Tham Kench - 1st encounter: "Tham Kench" , Kill: "Addiction";
Swain - 1st encounter: "Raum" , Kill: "Secrets";
I think that Fiddle is calling the demons by their name when he first meets them and says what they stand for when he kills them, so I guess we now know the name of Swains demon?
Fiddlesticks also says: "Fiddlesticks End of Men, Fiddlesticks first of ten", so maybe there are 10 demons?
I surprised Swain is the demon over Leblanc. In Noxian Lore she is older and more powerful than him. Or at least was. Leblanc is one of the founding members of all Noxia and liberated them from Mordekaiser back when they just a tribal people...
fiddlesticks (one of his voiceline, i can't remeber when he siad that) : Fiddle.....Stickssssss.
When he respawn : "Fear"
When he dies : "Horror"
He either be "Horror" or "Fear"
@@rel_evan_tthings2836 She's not a demon, though. Vladimir is also old as fuck and started the Black Rose with her, but he has blood magic.
Swain has some symbiotic relationship with a demon that dwelled in Noxus, which was ultimately built on top of Mordekaiser's Kingdom. So who knows where Raum comes from. But it's with Swain now.
Also, she didn't really liberate anyone. Mordekaiser knew what was happening and allowed it. He wanted to die. He had an undead army waiting for him, and he intends to bring them back to Runeterra.
How about shaco? He is a demon to. By the way The creator of fiddlestick character said in twitter in his skin there's another demon . So basically in fiddle Skins in LOL there's a 1 Demon look alike Fiddle.
@@jmctv2000 Well, we have like 3 sentences of lore about Shaco so we can't really say anything. All we know is "Clown go stab, clown go haha" and that's it for Shaco's lore
Actually when the soldier gets closer to the forest he says "Not Tedrick!" on his voice
Oh yeah
Oh, I thought it wass "Help Tedrick Kill" Did someone confirm not Terdrick?
you're right, he does say "not Tedrick", that's why at the end of the cinematic he says his name
*WOW*
More Goosebumps !
@@YamT52 listen closely, after he said not tedrick he said something like killed or kill
Remember that the "Uncanny Valley" is a tatic to make people feel uncomfortable and almost fear people that look almost human but not quite. Fiddlesticks might be using this to his advantage to sort of 'prepare' people for their demise with as much fear as possible. He strikes in the shadows, and appears in places where it is already dark and ominous because its where Fiddlesticks can terrify people to the extreme. Intentionally preying on the weak and vulnerable instead of Demacian Elites because although he may be able to fight them, they do not give as much emotional energy then terrified citizens and weak soldiers.
It is entirely possible that Fiddlesticks knows what he is doing, and is trying to make himself as terrifying as possible by simply being 'almost' humanoid and 'almost' sentient.
I like this theory more than what Necrit proposed. Fiddlesticks has clearly hunted enough people to understand how they work; how he knows to scare people best is proof. “Uncanny Valley” syndrome is a real life phenomenon that can be exploited to terrorize people, so for Fiddlesticks all he needed were a handful of tools to accomplish his goal.
Maybe he isn't actually aware of this psychological phenomenon, but since he is uncanny, it just happens to be a good scare tactic and thus he hasn't evolved past what he currently looks like
Fiddle: *kills Zoe*
*10 seconds later*: UwU
Sadly I don’t think people understood this one
Just a Biscuit 24 people do
@@justabiscuit1794 Star Guardian E?
HAHA BUT I BUILT GUARDIAN ANGEL
Oh i get it. Fiddle sticks mimicks the voice of what it has eaten. Or killed. It has killed zoe so it mimicked the voice of zoe.
I think that he is indeed as old and experienced as Evelynn, but he stopped evolving to try and look like humans when he was still inexperienced, because the shape he had was enough to scare people. Evelynn needs to be as humanoid and attractive as possible in order for her victims to fall for her but fiddlesticks doesn't, in fact it is better for him to be off looking because that is what people fear the most.
look human but dont.
Too many limbs mismatched
too many eyes
a mouth
a cage
Spider like crawl
Super fast.
can mimic victims to scare/entice victims.
Sooo yea he stopped evolving because it wouldnt make sense for him to look normal.
Everything he does is uncanny and just off which is scary.
Even his mimicry is off. Its a voice but not a voice and its pitched up and down somewhat.
Honestly all he needs is teleportation (which he may already have since the body isnt him. Hes just the spirit inside the cage.
And maybe some translucent skin but he does blend in with his surroundings.
Tho im not sure how he would do this stuffcin a bigger city or even town.
For the summoning circle: the lower right symbol looks like a lantern or cage. The center symbol could be a bizzare key. The line about fiddle being older than civilization could mean he's as old as the Aspects. The original demon that's part of fiddle and swain could have originally been an Aspect of darkness or dark magic that the Aspect of Twilight broke into separate pieces to prevent large scale destruction, since the Aspects of Twilight seem to specialize in containment of things that threaten the safety of the Aspects (the Darkin were sealed away possibly because they can kill Aspects without killing the host, preventing reincarnation and revealing a true death for celestial beings). It would also possibly explain why there's no evil Aspects mentioned so far in Targon lore: the evil or dark Aspect is incapable of possessing a host because it's not whole but also not dead and has been in that state for a very long while.
The next demonic champion might not be wholly demonic, instead it might be a person with demon-like powers using an item housing a demon as an arcane focus that is mistaken for being a Darkin, when it actually houses what ever remains of the original demon (with fiddle being the body and swain possessing the eyes). That person would probably have a drain of some kind, since both fiddle and swain have a drain in their kits, as well as a crow aesthetic.
Zoe's key might either unlock the cage housing the remains of the demon Aspect or at least reveal a way for it to merge as one with the summoning circle actually being an alchemical style transmutation process.
The original aspect might have had a shadowy, crow-like body and control over dark magic or life essence.
TLDR: Demon in swain and fiddle could be an evil Aspect that Twilight locked away and separated, with a third champion having a container of some kind housing the last bit and Zoe's key unlocking it. Possibly an Aspect of dark magic or life-essence with a crow-like body.
Raum is the name of the demon in Swain's hand. According to fiddlesticks:
Fiddlesticks -fear
Nocturn - nightmare
Evelynn - Pain
Tahm kench - Addiction
Raum -secrets
Apparently that's by order, from oldest to youngest.
"End of men, first of ten"
Meaning that there are at least 5 other demons yet to be born or we don't know about.
@@user-tu2dh5ro7i but the context of him saying end of men first of ten is him reapeating what sounds like a Brothers Grimm rhyme with very strong hints at being created long after his creation and first kills. His interactions probably aren't in order, and the actual game and interactions aren't actually canon and demons haven't been shown to be omnipotent outside of gameplay. Also if fiddle knows the true names of demons, why did he call the demon of greed and addiction Tahm Kench instead of his actual name? Tahm Kench is what he's known as in Bilgewater because the demon took the name of a gambler he consumed.
@@user-tu2dh5ro7i Evelynn - Agony* as shown in his dialogue voices.
DireWolf97 Highlights The interactions are canon. Rioters stated in a previous interview that this is their only way of making the story "progress", besides the lore, in game because they can't pause the game for a cinematic here and there.
Also, being omnipotent is fake, you can't be omnipotent even in a game or fictional reality/story.
@@DireWolfGaming97 Fiddlesticks is mimicing the voices, even if he knows Tahm's true name, it may not be able to speak it out because none of it's victims or victioms-to-be ever heard Tahm's true name.
"Is this demacia?"
"No this is Tetric"
Do you mean Tedric's Tetris champion skin?
OK IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR WHERE ZOES KEY CAME FROM EVER SINCE THEY SAID SHE STOLE IT FROM ANOTHER CHAMP
THANK YOU FOR ENDING MY SEARCH XD
Kablamo Kazui It is actually an easy thing to come by, why did it take you until now to know?
Plot twist: That's the key to Braum's Door shield.
ecsz st. croixe Yes, open a door that has already been ripped off of where it once stood, i hope there is something behind it like a plasma tv :)))
@@hinh4808 Moral of the story: You don't need no keys. All you need is a remote control for your TV.
On Surprise Party Fiddlesticks he says:
First Encounter - Zoe
-Nice key you got there, Twilight.
Didn’t steal it from someone dangerous did you?
"...He's kind of like a parrot, really". Not gonna lie, I'd want a parrot like that.
Yes, a parrot that murders you and everyone you know
@@justiny7460 - One of my friends has a parrotlet, he certainly THINKS he’s capable of a murder rampage. Of course he’s 28cm tall (~4”), so he’s only capable of destroying grapes and tissues. Adorable little psychopath.
to me it sounded like:
Soldier: Tedric?
Fiddlesticks: Not, Tedric.
He kills the soldier.
Fiddlesticks: Fiddle...Sticks...
He Corrects the soldier's claim
Is tedric not Cedric
@@uy9572 he said tedric you blind
akibara rei one dude before me said “ is Cedric not tedric” he deleted his comment
Fiddlesticks, The -Ancient Fear- Grammar Policeman
@@jsc1jake512 Has nothing to do with grammar but ok
The surprise party Fiddlesticks's interaction with zoe: "Nice key you got there sunshine, didn't steal it from someone dangerous did you?" It confirms the key theory that that key relates Fiddlesticks and Zoe.
Witcher no.1 :D
What if fiddle seems inexperienced not because he’s “younger” but because of what he feeds on, fear. Since he can easily induce fear just by his demonic appearance he doesn’t need to take on a physical form or characteristics catered to a specific purpose like Tahm and especially Evelyn whose feed on more complex emotions like greed and lust.
I don't understand the point of the dude in the video.
A demon of fear, named "the Ancient Fear", the "first of 10", that looks like a terrifying scarecrow with a scary voice and who took out 2 soldiers in 30sec top ? Sounds fucking effective to me.
As you said, why would Fiddlesticks need to be more "human like" ? Lol. He doesn't want to fuck you or make a pact with you... he wants you to fear him/it.
Mister Sunlight the reason is because if you scare a human it will just run away. Fiddle wants to make you come as close as possible before revealing himself and killing you. That’s why he try’s to look vaguely human. That’s why he has a lantern. So that u go towards the light looking for safety following the voices of scared loved ones etc. etc.
@@LycanDreams9159 The video states that Fiddle is a young demon that doesn't know how to catch people effectively and that doesn't know how to look "human". But the thing is : looking human is... just not the fucking point. He looks like a scarecrow, it was common in real life back in the day, it looks common in Runeterra too, it's an inanimate object so it's safe... In short : looking human ? Not the point (a human in a dark wood is fucking scary btw, it can be a psycho or something). Looking like a simple inanimated object ? The point.
But thanks for... huh... describing what was in the trailer I guess ?
If he does go for "raw fear" then why did he have to lure in Tedric's friend to scare him? The whole process seemed way too complicated for something that feeds on "fear". Fiddlesticks could've easily made the same creepy noises around the campfire then built them up to a loud screech making the soldiers piss their pants before proceding to chase them around the woods . There's no way that it wouldn't' have yielded similar results in how much "fear" was generated compared to what was in the trailer.
In fact why does he even need voice mimicking and illusion magic when he could just run at people with his 5 limbed metal scarecrow form. That would scared anyone shitless.
I’d feel that there are two points we need to note. The first note is that Fiddlesticks feeds on fear, not on dread. Nocturne feeds on terror and dread through nightmares. You know what’s coming, since you imagine it. Nobody in their right mind would ever imagine Fiddlesticks coming to haunt them. I almost screamed when I saw the cinematic.
One of Fiddlesticks’ voice lines says that Fiddlesticks is the first of ten demons in Runeterra. We know 5: Fiddlesticks, Tahm Kench, Evelynn, Nocturne and Swains raven demon.
He is the oldest of them all, and I think Tahm Kench is the 2nd oldest since they both have a lot of information about other Champions and that is shown in their voice lines/interactions.
Mr. Göteboi then that would disprove Necrit's theory that fiddle is a young demon who is trying to fit in with the physical realm
@@jahsuo4254 indeed, but i also think he is trying to fit in, just not as a human as his objective is to inflict fear among his preys, an inanimate object is more fitting, i think that s why he chose to disguise himself as a scarecrow
@@jahsuo4254 I don't think he really needs to look/be human. Posessing human like form but not being human *enough* is the exact shape one should take to envoke the most fear. In people, ofcourse.
I honestly believe that he is the first of the primordial demons, most likely created when the first humans was created/introduced in Runeterra. Necrit”s theory that he is a young demon seems off, since Fiddlesticks only interacts with those other primordial demons by name.
@@bladekokiri 10 primordial demons, first one is Fiddlesticks while the other 9 demons are not known yet. All we know is that they are ancient and probably way above regular demons like Eve or Tahm
4:58 sounds like "not tedric"
edit: the last bit was nothing apparently
Not tedric, fiddle
Fiddle himself want ppl to know him lul
@@rafasilva1265 i was unsure on the last part so thats
possible
Tedric not killed would make for a better lure.
I think it's just "not tedrick" but he is relly streching out the end (tedricccccckk)
The demonic summoning circle reminds me a lot of an old movie called “Nine” (as in the number) where the main characters are puppets and of one main keys in the movie it’s a some kind of device that looks alike the circle. Maybe I’m just crazy 🤷♂️
fiddles' third arm kinda reminds me of the robots from that movie. cool
that movie was awesome
I always thought Fiddle's crows was a reference to him being a scarecrow.
I just checked it is true maybe fiddle has ability to create illusions?
Unlike the other demons Fiddle is not in a physical form, he a spirit...sorta....manifested into a scarecrow. This makes him especially more terrifying because well....we dont know exactly what he is, we can speculate and theorize it but we dont know %100 and thats why i love his champ design and lore
Fiddle isn't inexperienced, he's literally "the ancient fear"
perhaps he's a fragment of the ancient fear? Nocturne is apparently feeding on dread not pure fear, but maybe it IS fear and that's why he's affiliated with the other members of the set? If all of them are aligned with the same emotion, does that mean they are literally related? IDK.
Well. There are people who played LOL for a decade and stayed in Bronze for 9 years and just recently demoted to Iron. That's probably the case for Fiddlesticks.
As Necrit mentioned, just because you are ancient in Runeterra does not mean you are older than the other creatures, that's much older than ancient.
He is ancient, but it seems like Fiddle doesnt really know the most effective way of sucking fear out. Like Eve perfected her technique, Noc perfected his, not even allowing people to sleep, and Fiddle is still trying to find out his style. He's still learning, and maybe just earned his consciousness not too long ago.
@@highjumpkick999 "Fiddle doesn't really know the most effective way of sucking fear out"
He took out those two soldiers in the cinematic pretty effectively I'd say
Did you notice when fiddlesticks first sats “help me”, and the guard turns back to see the swinging light, tedricks helmet moved from the ground to the bench
Fiddlesticks voice line just came out so, a lot more clues
11:44 I think the 3 circles likely have something to do with the 3 towers of the immortal bastion. It's also noted that swain got his powers from a demon lurking inside of the immortal bastion. I don't think that demon was fiddlesticks but I think the demon inside of the immortal bastion and fiddlesticks are related. Maybe they are the same "species" of demon. The similarities between fiddle and swain are definitely there. Also fiddlesticks has a voiceline when interacting with swain where he says "RAUM...". Raum could be the name of the demon Swain made his bargain with, and possibly a future champion (i hope)
12:00 That's Bard mask.
so bardo is the demon god
LMAO AHAHAHAHAHHAHA Bard is the 3rd part of the demonic crow god thingy
It cant be bards mask
Bard is a celestial so he is one of the oldest beings in Runeterra
He existed before all of these demons
@@lucaa8494 it's just a theory lol
@@lucaa8494 Woosh
Fiddlesticks uses his “body” as a puppet. All of his skins are cannon because he tries to blend in to the different regions of runeterra. He likes to mimic his surroundings. He mimics the voices of his prey. Also, when he says he’s the first of ten, he’s implying that he’s the most ancient of the demons. He feeds off of fear, which is the most basic and primal emotion. The other emotions that other demons feed off of only arose when civilizations arose.
9:12
He's so ancient that he has actually mastered the realm of the uncanny valley(the point where humanoid things like ventriloquist dummies and vocaloids can be scary)
Wait that actually makes sense considering what his character is all about. In theory, he doesn't just feed on general fear, but on uncanny fear. He wants his victim's to think "Something's not right...", which explains the voice mimmicking and humanoid form.
@@peteomarjebdollosa9170 well, it's now debunked.Just hear his voice now
10:46
Fid-dle-sticks
end of men
Fid-dle-sticks
first of ten
one of his voice lines
Fiddle must be older than Evalynn he must be since he is the first of ten
@@nielharoldolarte2350 fiddlesticks is basically the oldest thing in the LOL universe
The summoning circle theory really makes sense tbh. The 'Eye' belongs to Swain, the lower left 'Figure' belongs to Fiddle, while the lower right looks like a scissor of some sort. I'd say it Noc's blades.
(EDIT: I said Noc's blade without explanation. Wha I meant was "It LOOKED like Noc's blade. Misunderstandings.)
So the one in the middle is the Crow Demon God?
Bottom left one belongs to Fiddle bcs of T-pose.
I'm pretty sure the demons themselves wouldn't collaborate since they're territorial. Evelynn's voice lines tell Kench to pretty much fuck off her land.
@@Crownsnek probably because they arent 'brothers'. Considering the theory true, then Fiddle, Swain's crow, and the other is one and the same. Most likely they will want to unite.
@@pokfen1812 yes i did say that, didnt I? I said "lower left belongs to Fiddle".
12:00 There are 10 circles in that drawing and Fiddle is the "first of ten"
Fiddelstick says: "Not Tedric" followed up with his second "sentence" with Fiddlesticks.
He said the name because the guard was calling out Tedric but it was not tedric it was like fiddle said Fiddlesticks
people named him fiddlesticks as far as i know they know hes out there and talk about him so im sure people who are aware hes out there is calling him fiddlesticks
Now that his voice has been released it's confirmed that fiddlesticks is "the first of ten" so that either means that he is the oldest known primordial demon out of only 10(like a 4 horesmen of apocalypse in the world of runeterra) or there are more creatures like him, and he also reveals that Swain's demon is named Raum
Did you get a new mic? the sound of your voice sounds so much clearer.
My setup is a bit inconsistent so depending on how far/close I am to the mic, there might be a slight difference. I wish I knew what I did differently this time.
@@Necrit yeah you're voice sounded so much better
Crisp cronchy voice
@@Necrit Imagine Fiddlesticks breaking the fourth wall, using/copying your voice to narrate his lore in-game.
Nocturne: _I'm the scariest champion in League_
Warwick: _Are you sure about that?_
*Distant voice in the background*
~Amateurs!!
Both Nocturne and Warwick looking at the guy who said it: Tf did you just say?
Fiddlesticks: *AMATEURS!!!*
Original Lollipoppy: AMATEURS!
@@rokakakacake bruh
Sonny both of them recoil in pure fear
correction:
Both Nocturne and Warwick looking at the guy who said it, they see a scarecrow: Tf did you just say?
From behind: _I'm the scariest champion in League_
AM-ma-TU-res
i found something interesting when i played league a while ago. when i was pinging our maokai (my friend) for fun half way through my barrage of pings it didn't show the usual "maokai: Alive" ping it showed "Shiol: Alive" i think riot messed up their code and i found the new champ's name.
Edit: not really sure if the name really was shiol i just knew it's name had an "shi" in it (didn't pay too much attention because we we all pinged maokai with question marks and alive pings) so maybe the name was inaccurate
oye you aint the only one who has had that
Shiol? Sounds like Sheol, which is the Hebrew name for Hell.
Lulu's Polymorph changes the champion name in chat! Squill, Cupcake, Kitty, Dragon, Snowman, Seal! Every skin another name. Maybe it was the enemy Lulu who used her W on the Maokai? :)
What if there gonna be a coot hellfire cerberus doggo?
@@HyperPico87 holy shit, really? Thats dope
Fiddle respond to the guy “Not Tedrick ! Fiddle”
Also what’s interesting is that Fiddle’s “T” pose is exactly how the bottom left symbol shows. While the “Eye” assumingly to be Swain’s demon hand, one of Swain’s skill (i think it’s his W) releases an “Eye” shaped dark matter/energy.
I’m assuming the bottom right, the last of the 3. Is going to be the next champion that resembles the symbol ? Either through one of his skill set or his animation/visual effects. I guess when all 3 of these energy/matter manages to “reunite or combine”, it brings back this Dark entity ? I’m also assuming Zoe stole one of the keys to prevent whatever “It” is, from existing.
9:37
So fiddle just a baby demon?
awwww
The released voice lines indicate fiddlesticks is actually the first demon all the others came after
I believe he or it knows what humans are and tries to be scary. This is your grandpappy demons, not those millennial demons
Naughty Snowball first of 10. Meaning maybe fiddlesticks is the oldest, or the most powerful of the demons. The creature likely learned quickly that it could inspire greater fear by working secretly with the humans. Of course the humans are unaware that’s what they are doing, but that’s the point. Much as tahm decided to take the form he did based on the stories told about him, fiddlesticks probably did the same, adopting an iconic form and tailoring his methods of hunting around that. The difference being tahm has likely a better understanding of humans and tries to be friendly and disarming. Fiddlesticks loves to cause fear, and increase the tension, so playing mind games with his prey, twisting the voices of loved ones, and generally being a predator that kills with 0 remorse is very in theme for him.
@@Motleydoll123 Apparently, Tahm kench, Evelyn and Nocturne aren't some of the original 10 (confirmed by riot writer) Apparently Fiddlle is an ancient primordial evil much stronger and older than them, hence why he doesn't try to act human. I would venture a guess that Fiddle is more in tier with Kindred over the other demons.
to be honest, he would 100% make me shit myself because i really am creeped out by the uncanny valley , which is what he presicesly is doing, imagine you are on a field durimg midnight searching for your friends because they didnt returned after 3 days, you are out there and see a figure, standing like a man who is just getting a little break after reaping, you talk to him "Hey you! Have you seen my friends? They were supposed to be back three days ago from the fields", "he" says nothing, then you take another look and mutter to yourself"oh damn, thats just a scarecrow, huh, a really realistic one at that", but then you hear a shrieking voice "HELP MEEE" and notice the scarecrow coming at you hellishly fast, "HOLY SHIT, WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT, OH GOD I HAVE TO GET AWAY FROM IT!!!" are the only words in your mind, but its too late, it caught up to you, reavealing a scarecrow made from metal and cloth and as you were too familiar with the thing was supposed to be, you left your guard down, in your dying screams you learned that it mimicks you, in hoping to lure in or scare its next victims you cant do nothing but succumb
Me: OH HEY! ITS THE HELMET BR...
soldier: so tedric...
Me: wait.. thats illigal
about the summoning circle:
the cage in the splash art has 3 eyes that look like from 3 different demons.
so he fiddlesticks is varus 2.0
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Maybe it's THE new champion that risist to die? Or that "Demon" that belongs in the past.
I so hope this turns out to be true. Getting some more demon lore would be awesome
man really loved this explanation, hadn't thought that there'd be much to explain about a 2 minute trailer but the part where you compared fiddle to the other demons really made of lot of sense, thanks again best yt channel
5:00 Actually it's more like "Not Tedric" eventually "KiII/KiIIed".
yea.. I can somehow hear it too
Fiddle
I thought it said "Not. TedRiC, HErE"
basically taunting the dude.
I think it's more "Not Tedric, Fiddle", correcting the soldier
The Fiddlesticks being 1 of 3 creature kinda makes sense when you also realize Fiddles has 2 keys and Zoe has 1 key she stole from him.
Idk why i thought tedric was some soldier from that telltales game or how its called, tellstones smthn like that
Lol imagine a telltale game in the league universe
@@kristiyangrigorov5232 imagine a telltale game
I'm planning a long d&d campaign in runeterra and your videos always inspire me up, thanks!
Cool fiddle lookup, one of the most interesting reworks overall
Surprise Party fiddle’s quotes mentions Zoe’s key.
The quote goes-
“Nice key you got there, twilight. Didn’t steal it from someone dangerous did you?”
On his official voices video on 4:06 he said “Fiddlesticks end of men, fiddlesticks first of ten!” which makes me think that there might be ten of these demons (evelynn, tham kench, so on) and he was the first of them making him the ancient fear.
In the famous words of Miller
"They played us like a damn FIDDLE!!!!!"
Necrit, I really hope you read these, but I found something potentially big. On the screen to customize and select your runes in-game, the background of all 5 of em are places in runeterra! Precision seems to be demacia, domination is noxus, sorcery frejliord, inspiration targonia and I'm guessing resolve in ionia or ixtal. Please read this, but there's also a chance you've already made a video on this I haven't watched. If so, sorry to annoy you. But if not, we may have figured out where ryze is going next based on his cinematic, or where....SYLAS! THATS WHERE HES GOING! HES GETTING THE RUNE BECAUSE HE SENSES IT! HIM AND RYZE ARE GOING TO FIGHT FOR IT! Think about it! Ryze was missing either the sorcery or inspiration rune, either of which are in he frejliord, and sylas said in his story that he heard about takes of magic in the north, hence him going there and the ice magic they have. Even he rune descriptions fit with what each region is! Inspiration is become a god, outsmart mortals for the aspects of targonia, precision is live for ever and honor and the such, just like demacia, domination is odviously noxian, resolve in solitary and spiritual, just like ionia and lastly sorcery is the frejliord! Oh this would be a amazing turnpoint! If you read this, let me now where I went wrong, so I can resolve it, but holy hell, if this actually is what the new story will be....
"Sigh"
My sleep schedule is gonna be ruined for this...
"Watches anyways"
He's moving that way because that's how he moves when he uses his ultimate. Most don't realize it because he follows up his ult with another attack but he moves just like that during his ultimate.
When his lore gets release I want it Necrit to have a spooky voice along with it
Scary fact: Yone is actually terrified by fiddle he says " what ancient horror is this? is this what an azakana can become? "
Just imagine what Evelynn looked like before she knew how to look human
2010 evelynn can be the closest
In Surprise Party Fiddlesticks, he says to Zoe when he kills her: "Nice key. Didn't steal it from someone dangerous, did you?" Or something like that.
I feel like this confirms that Fiddlesticks is the orignial keyholder.
Someone : "sneeze"
Necrit: 5 hidden reason why he/she sneezed.
Necrit:Two Demacians
Fiddlesticks:Two Minions
Fiddlesticks is basically siren head in league of legends
You’re not wrong
I think fiddlesticks enjoys the hunt and the fear he can cause using his body to adapt to scare people whilst he hunts but also to use the scarecrow appearance to blend as a scare crow to allow for initial fear
Fiddle sticks: someone is coming quick act normal
Also fiddle sticks: *T pose*
therapist: fiddle sticks is no real, it cant hurt you
fiddle sticks: FiDdlE sTiCkS iS nOt ReAl iT cAnT hUrT yOu
The words that Fiddlesticks is saying is "not Tedrick" so he gave a warning.
He didnt say tht he did say "tedric now dead"
The fact that the clip of fiddlesticks charging was shown repeatedly is terrifying
When Fiddlesticks talks with his own voice what he says is "Not Tedrick", and at tthe end he says his name, so it could be one sentence in 2 parts.
"Not Tedrick, Fiddlesticks."
Fun fact, one of surprise party fiddlesticks voice lines towards Zoe is actually; "Nice key you got there, twilight. Didn't steal it from someone dangerous, did you?"
Necrit, you're probably right about the Zoe theory.
Cause when Fiddlesticks first encounter Zoe.
He will say this line:"Nice key you got there, Twilight. Didn't steal it from someone dangerous did yoy?"
You have the names mixed up. Swain is the character but the source of his power comes from the demon Raum.
Bruh imagine after decades working on the lore fiddlesticks got rework and finally gained his own human form
I'd say that if he feeds on fear his optimal form wouldn't be human as his current one is more horrifying.
I was anticipating what joke you’d make at the end, was not disappointed
7:21 When you don't want to get demonetized
I don't get it xD
@@deathml4477 He used the censored version of Evelynn's splashart
Zoe has key from Fiddlesticks he says that line on his surprise party skin.He says something like:„Did you steal those keys from someone dangerous”.I don't know if he is referring to him self but we have that at least.
IVE BEEN WAITING CRIT, IVE BEEN WAITING!
Old lolly poppy might give You the cood shoulder, but Fiddlesticks Will give You the chills
3:45 Sylas approves
Lol I love how this voice isn't even edited to sound like that, It's just an adorable Kellen Goff who makes it.
5:32 ah general Kenobi
*falls off ceiling*
Hello there
Something very important to note about Zoe's key: In one of surprise party Fiddle's special interactions with Zoe, he asks her "Nice key you got there, didn't steal it from someone dangerous did you?"
3:28 *ILLUMINATE THE ENEMY!*
*BANISH THE SHADOW.*
You are right innsaying fiddlestick can use all parts of his body as legs, and the idea that he would be bipedal is flawrd unless he is trying to mimic a human, hence why he walks so funny on two legs.
During the slow motion I realise he has a second set of arms helping him run. Which either elludes that fiddle is a four arm demon, or that when he does charge be will indeed add as many limb as he need to keep gain or surpass the speed of his ennemy,
5:34 What the shredded cheese sees when i raid the fridge at 3 AM
I have never put to much attention to the lore but now that I am, I'll say this: Swain's demon and this demon called "Fiddlesticks" it's the same or at least, as someone said before me, parts of the same entity. The crows are the link and since Riot reads the community theories and stick them together very well this is the one I find the most interesting.
Btw, Nice job on your videos. you really take the time to think through so many things and get something that makes sense out of it xD. Keep it up :D
Can't wait to get spooked while playing
the crows are likely a note to the fact that he's reminiscent to a scarecrow. when we see him in the cinematic, his first pose is very scarecrow. he's similar to a scarecrow in that scarecrows exist for the purpose of scaring crows, and similarly, fiddle is being a humanoid 'scarecrow' to scare people before taking their essence.
7:27 I see.. You dont want to get yellow monetization.Clever Boy
What do you mean 😂
nanishady95 SHES covered up compared to her normal splash art
nanishady95 that’s korean splash art which is less sexier than normal one.
I love this just because it really adds to the whole fear aspect of him. Probably doesn't even know what it's saying, it just mimics the last words and thoughts of it's victims.