Hard to make adjustments when you can’t throw the freaking ball lol.. we are one dimensional .. defense is doing their best , offense needs to figure something out.. crazy how we don’t have a QB.. let the freshman play
Yes the coaches have fail two weeks in a row and why these Michigan fans 🙄 don't see it is beyond me and they will get exposed next week against Washington and don't be surprised if they loose 42 to 14 against Washington next week
As a realistic Michigan fan, I know Orji gives us the best chance of winning every game. However, my God, it was terrible throw lofting the ball to Loveland's inside shoulder instead of a rifle pass to Loveland's outside shoulder which would have been a TD. Instead, it's a pick up 24-3 and changed the whole game from that point
Does orji give us the best chances though? His advantage over warren is his running, but he hasn't ran that much. Obviously neither are great, but we could still have a ground game with Warren and still throw the ball less frequently. I just think Warren at least has the chance of passing. If any team stops our run game with orji like in the second half of the usc game, we are doomed.
@skewedlemonss80 Davis Warren is a disaster at QB. Basically the Wolverines are screwed going forward. Sherrone Moore's face and body language confirmed that fact in the interviews post game. And he is to blame for not going after at least a decent QB in the portal
@@jerodjones6846warren isn’t a disaster. Yes, he threw a lot of picks but the dude can actually pass the football in comparison to Orji. You mean to tell me these coaches can’t coach the turnovers out of him? What happens when Orji starts turning the ball over when we get put into must pass situations?
It seems that Orji gets too fixated on his first read , but that happens with young QB’s . Hopefully he gets coached up on that AND getting rid of the ball if he has no options downfield. GO BLUE !!!!!
Michigan needs Wide Outs. Orji is playing fine. He protects the ball, he's learning reads and looks more comfortable just two games starting. We could use just one WR that can actually beat someone 1 on 1.
You guy's have to relax and remember that this team on offense is young and Orji will grow as the season goes on and the defense is getting better each game as well.
lloyd carr had michigan running the ball , throwing the ball....top offensive line....stout defense...tall receivers.....toomer.....mercury hayes.... etc.
Teams win different ways. This team has put up wins and at the end of the day nothing else really matters. I don't care about style points! As long as Michigan is winning I'm celebrating the victory!
One thing about me as a Michigan fan is that I'm not in denial that this is just not a good Michigan football team 🤔 and they will get exposed will soon starting next week against Washington and these are not good Michigan Coaches and they don't know how to make adjustments at all and I see them ending the season at most 7-5
Well last year's offense could seldom put a 4 quarter game together either but always moved the ball when they had to. They also had a great defense, few penalties or turnovers and great special team play. This team is not quite there yet
I’ve notice that Edwards has not been apart of these end of game conferences. I feel bad. I like Edwards but at the same time we never know which Edwards we will see at each game. Lately he’s been non-existence.
One mark of a good team is they can win even when they play badly. Of course, this usually comes to bite you in the ass eventually - see 10-2 Iowa last year.
All us fans love this team win or lose !!! But jeez ?…what was M doing in the off-season with transfer portal for receivers and a quarterback ? Either they thought the team was good enough or they didn’t want to or both ?
Coaches are not good at making adjustments, and offenses are one demintional and a quarterback who can only run and can't pass the football which will end up with a 6-6 or 7-5 record at the end of the season
This is what it looks like when you have no depth on a defensive line and a qb that can’t keep a defense honest with 10-20 yard passes. Oregon, Illinois, Ohio State, and probably Indiana will beat us this year. That said Orgi did improve in the passing game. But it’s incremental at best. He needs major strides in improvement week to week.
Answer this question: is it easier to take a guy that can pass the football and teach him to not turn it over or to take a guy that can’t pass the football and turn him into a passer? I don’t believe Moore for a second that there’s more to Orji’s passing game. If there was we would have seen it. And lets not forget he said he we could win a national championship with either him or Warren…
you can't win giving the ball up 3 times per game but you can win running the ball. plus orji & warren pass about the same, warren ain't that great a passer brother
@@christmvz the throws of Warren I saw on film were good, and certainly better than what we’ve seen from Orji so far. And, again, it’s all based on whether or not you can coach the turnovers out of Warren.
We need to go to Tuttle if he is available for Washington. If Tuttle is not available we need to go back to Warren, Orji is not a college QB. Since his only skill is running, he needs to be getting 100+ yards per game or more. He has been playing QB for several years going back to High School, he hasn't mastered the basics of playing QB by now, it's just not going to happen. To counter your arguement that Warren sucks, yes, he threw a few bad picks but he also had to deal with a horrible O-Line, which has since improved significantly and Warren is leaps and bounds a betterr passer.
Orji’s ability to run is what helps the oline. We go back to Warren we go back looking like we did first 3 weeks. Plus you lose the team! The TEAM plays better with Orji out there!
Orji has yet to make a bonehead mistake unlike your boyfriend Warren🤷♂️ Tuttle isn’t even good so idk why you’re bringing him up. We have no receivers and our OC is sped. Orji is in a bad situation right now and our coaches aren’t helping him at all. Milroe was terrible at first, but once Saban started to model the offense to milroe’s strengths, they took off. Obviously orji is no milroe, but let’s not act like this offense is using him effectively. I doubt denard or Devin Gardner would succeed with Kirk Cambell
Not playing up to a Michigan standards? Michigan Standards was 2 national championships in 70 years. Usually 10 - 2 seasons with a bowl loss. Coaches contributing to those losses. Listen to the players responses from last year with their focus on winning a national championship and listen to this years players. Winning is great but being able to execute a game plan and not beating yourself has to be the first objective. Doesn't look like we're ready to do much of either right now.
This pathetic offense is going to catch up with them, and they will get exposed soon starting next week. If they can't get that offense together, starting next week against Washington
@christmvz naw dude, I'm not an idiot like you who are in denial of the flaws with this team and think they are a playoff team, and they are far from it and typical 🙄 Michigan Wolverine football fans like you thinks that way and unfortunately I'm not one of them
They know this wasn't their best game. And they know this was a sloppy win.... And considering who they have to play for the rest of the season, they know they need to tighten up the run game ship. This falls on the new head coach. A head coach that seems to have a problem with pointing the ire of scrutiny word belongs - The misplaced appointment of a position, coach. And given responsibility for the whole offensive line. Kirk Campbell is not ready for that. And if you were going to move a position over to that, a myopic choice end the consideration of who My best full of shoe here or there. Why would you take the weakest link? I'm sorry the quarterback coach? All in the name of continuity... If they're gonna manage and handle what they have to for the rest of the season, he needs to deal with. What the real issue is and the real issue is not Alex Orji is not the old line the real issue is the OC They need to fix the fact that Twink Martindale did not have an answer for the hurry-up.... The offense made him huge momentum. Shifting change after the half, which was stupid, they went to a play action right out of the half or first Down. And that's what changed the momentum of the game, because minnesota was ready for that... You are a running team, not a passing team. They keep superimposing metrics from a different style of play on to the type of play. That's winning today and that is a rushing quarterback, that's what the dual thread quarterback is. This is the system they have been setting up the last three years under Sherrone Moore. They have their squad. They need the stop listening to outside pressure to conform in a way that causes them to lose their identity. Because that's what they're trying to do on the outside confuse michigan because they hate Michigan. They don't need to decide who the running back is they know who the running back is that's Donovan Edwards, They needed to identify who their power back. Was he kicked the door in? That's Khalel Mullins - And they know who their tight end corp is - Stop trying to conform when you've already won .. You've made the argument. They're trying to distract. You don't fall for it! Quit being beguiled by meaningless stats. Telling you, you have to have so many yards per game for a passer. No, you don't. This is a dual threat. Let him run the ball down your throat - whatever wins wins, if your squad wasn't ready, that's on them. Washington is not gonna be easy, but they smack the hell out of them last year. Let's see what happens next week. They will be on the road... they need to be convincing - Greg Schiano has Rutgers looking good though - Michigan needs to take note
Orji, sorry young man but you are not a starter at D-1 level. Your coaches are failing you by telling you this!! Get a good education because you are going to need it. So sad that any of you think this is winning football!
Oh god at least I get some comedic relief reading numbskulls like you.....Orji has a chance to be very good actually if they'd stop over-coaching him and let him settle in.
So happy about the game and the team. Orji is making huge strides. Excited to watch him grow this season
The coaches have failed 2 weeks in a row on making adjustments to the other team’s halftime adjustments.
The players failed. The kids failed, not the coaches.
@@Kylebeard0720no, the coaching and the play calling is horrible
@@Kylebeard0720coaches are responsible for adjustments, not the players. Casual🤡
Hard to make adjustments when you can’t throw the freaking ball lol.. we are one dimensional .. defense is doing their best , offense needs to figure something out.. crazy how we don’t have a QB.. let the freshman play
Yes the coaches have fail two weeks in a row and why these Michigan fans 🙄 don't see it is beyond me and they will get exposed next week against Washington and don't be surprised if they loose 42 to 14 against Washington next week
Mullins is right. The second half needs great improvement.
My take is we need more innovative plays for the second half p
As a realistic Michigan fan, I know Orji gives us the best chance of winning every game. However, my God, it was terrible throw lofting the ball to Loveland's inside shoulder instead of a rifle pass to Loveland's outside shoulder which would have been a TD. Instead, it's a pick up 24-3 and changed the whole game from that point
Does orji give us the best chances though? His advantage over warren is his running, but he hasn't ran that much. Obviously neither are great, but we could still have a ground game with Warren and still throw the ball less frequently. I just think Warren at least has the chance of passing. If any team stops our run game with orji like in the second half of the usc game, we are doomed.
@skewedlemonss80 Davis Warren is a disaster at QB. Basically the Wolverines are screwed going forward. Sherrone Moore's face and body language confirmed that fact in the interviews post game. And he is to blame for not going after at least a decent QB in the portal
@@jerodjones6846warren isn’t a disaster. Yes, he threw a lot of picks but the dude can actually pass the football in comparison to Orji. You mean to tell me these coaches can’t coach the turnovers out of him? What happens when Orji starts turning the ball over when we get put into must pass situations?
@@skewedlemonss80I think Orji’s ineffectiveness in the run comes down to the offensive coordinator not having a clue
@@jerodjones6846they had Jack Tuttle injury that hurt because this was always going to be a bridge year for Davis next year
Great win boys get better each week ignore the arm chair coaches
It seems that Orji gets too fixated on his first read , but that happens with young QB’s .
Hopefully he gets coached up on that AND getting rid of the ball if he has no options downfield.
GO BLUE !!!!!
They have been rough with half time adjustments.
4-1. Our defense and special teams is carrying the weight.
I would say Kalel is carrying the weight more than anyone so far
Michigan needs Wide Outs. Orji is playing fine. He protects the ball, he's learning reads and looks more comfortable just two games starting. We could use just one WR that can actually beat someone 1 on 1.
facts plus a OT or 2 wouldn't hurt
Go Blue!
Someone has to remind Michigan the game has 2 halfs, not 1.
Shut your mouth.
Michigan is not good enough to maintain consistency. They are going to get better.
Orji might raise our floor as a team, but he really limits our ceiling too. He looks nowhere near ready to be a competent passer.
give him more opportunities & he'll grow but we need an easier schedule or better WRs to do that
RUN THE OPTION
When did michigan stop being a second half team?!
Think of the ferrets saved!
When Kirk cambell and wink martindale were hired
Offense looked better. Orji and the game plan were improved. Enjoy the W and get back to improving 1 day at a time. Go Blue!
You guy's have to relax and remember that this team on offense is young and Orji will grow as the season goes on and the defense is getting better each game as well.
lloyd carr had michigan running the ball , throwing the ball....top offensive line....stout defense...tall receivers.....toomer.....mercury hayes.... etc.
This team probably isn't going to the playoffs but that's fine as long as they improve and grow🤷〽️
They are improving every week except for the second half
We'll be there
i agree 〽️
Teams win different ways. This team has put up wins and at the end of the day nothing else really matters. I don't care about style points! As long as Michigan is winning I'm celebrating the victory!
Org you must step up your game big from here on so prepare well and stay confident
One thing about me as a Michigan fan is that I'm not in denial that this is just not a good Michigan football team 🤔 and they will get exposed will soon starting next week against Washington and these are not good Michigan Coaches and they don't know how to make adjustments at all and I see them ending the season at most 7-5
Well last year's offense could seldom put a 4 quarter game together either but always moved the ball when they had to.
They also had a great defense, few penalties or turnovers and great special team play.
This team is not quite there yet
I’ve notice that Edwards has not been apart of these end of game conferences. I feel bad. I like Edwards but at the same time we never know which Edwards we will see at each game. Lately he’s been non-existence.
Go Blue
Orji is great. hes just to green.. Give me Tuttle
One mark of a good team is they can win even when they play badly. Of course, this usually comes to bite you in the ass eventually - see 10-2 Iowa last year.
All us fans love this team win or lose !!! But jeez ?…what was M doing in the off-season with transfer portal for receivers and a quarterback ? Either they thought the team was good enough or they didn’t want to or both ?
They were playing for a Natty and wondering if they would have a coaching staff or an experience Qb. 🤷🏾♂️
Coach Moore said they could win a national championship with either Orji or Warren. Makes you question his judgement
Ask big ward lol
Coaches are not good at making adjustments, and offenses are one demintional and a quarterback who can only run and can't pass the football which will end up with a 6-6 or 7-5 record at the end of the season
CLASS
This is what it looks like when you have no depth on a defensive line and a qb that can’t keep a defense honest with 10-20 yard passes. Oregon, Illinois, Ohio State, and probably Indiana will beat us this year.
That said Orgi did improve in the passing game. But it’s incremental at best. He needs major strides in improvement week to week.
Answer this question: is it easier to take a guy that can pass the football and teach him to not turn it over or to take a guy that can’t pass the football and turn him into a passer? I don’t believe Moore for a second that there’s more to Orji’s passing game. If there was we would have seen it. And lets not forget he said he we could win a national championship with either him or Warren…
you can't win giving the ball up 3 times per game but you can win running the ball. plus orji & warren pass about the same, warren ain't that great a passer brother
@@christmvz the throws of Warren I saw on film were good, and certainly better than what we’ve seen from Orji so far. And, again, it’s all based on whether or not you can coach the turnovers out of Warren.
Good job boys refs tried to steal it we won all that matters . See you in the weightroom tommorrow Go Blue
michigan cant constantly go into each season with question marks about who the quarterback is going to be.
BENCH ORJI!…Warren throws picks…But at least you have a chance when he doesn’t.
#5 had a big time catch against Texas, when will you throw to him again
We need to go to Tuttle if he is available for Washington. If Tuttle is not available we need to go back to Warren, Orji is not a college QB. Since his only skill is running, he needs to be getting 100+ yards per game or more. He has been playing QB for several years going back to High School, he hasn't mastered the basics of playing QB by now, it's just not going to happen. To counter your arguement that Warren sucks, yes, he threw a few bad picks but he also had to deal with a horrible O-Line, which has since improved significantly and Warren is leaps and bounds a betterr passer.
Orji’s ability to run is what helps the oline. We go back to Warren we go back looking like we did first 3 weeks. Plus you lose the team! The TEAM plays better with Orji out there!
Orji has yet to make a bonehead mistake unlike your boyfriend Warren🤷♂️ Tuttle isn’t even good so idk why you’re bringing him up. We have no receivers and our OC is sped. Orji is in a bad situation right now and our coaches aren’t helping him at all. Milroe was terrible at first, but once Saban started to model the offense to milroe’s strengths, they took off. Obviously orji is no milroe, but let’s not act like this offense is using him effectively. I doubt denard or Devin Gardner would succeed with Kirk Cambell
Warren has 6 ints chill orji needs a couple games
Not playing up to a Michigan standards?
Michigan Standards was 2 national championships in 70 years. Usually 10 - 2 seasons with a bowl loss. Coaches contributing to those losses.
Listen to the players responses from last year with their focus on winning a national championship and listen to this years players.
Winning is great but being able to execute a game plan and not beating yourself has to be the first objective.
Doesn't look like we're ready to do much of either right now.
"You know"
😂
Alex orji is not the answer dude can’t hit a throw to save his life
People sorry but this Michigan team is just not good at all and barely 🤷 an average team
This pathetic offense is going to catch up with them, and they will get exposed soon starting next week. If they can't get that offense together, starting next week against Washington
all you do is hate, i seen you in multiple comment scrub s just hating
@christmvz naw dude, I'm not an idiot like you who are in denial of the flaws with this team and think they are a playoff team, and they are far from it and typical 🙄 Michigan Wolverine football fans like you thinks that way and unfortunately I'm not one of them
Absolutely embarrassing performance !!! Orji is NOT the guy. Very bad decision making and can’t throw. The coaching staff should be ashamed
Respectfully, chill out
Orji is atrocious. The defense is awful. Stop talking, Orji.
Kirk cambell*
that qb is trash
They know this wasn't their best game. And they know this was a sloppy win.... And considering who they have to play for the rest of the season, they know they need to tighten up the run game ship.
This falls on the new head coach.
A head coach that seems to have a problem with pointing the ire of scrutiny word belongs - The misplaced appointment of a position, coach. And given responsibility for the whole offensive line. Kirk Campbell is not ready for that. And if you were going to move a position over to that, a myopic choice end the consideration of who My best full of shoe here or there. Why would you take the weakest link?
I'm sorry the quarterback coach?
All in the name of continuity...
If they're gonna manage and handle what they have to for the rest of the season, he needs to deal with. What the real issue is and the real issue is not Alex Orji is not the old line the real issue is the OC
They need to fix the fact that Twink Martindale did not have an answer for the hurry-up....
The offense made him huge momentum. Shifting change after the half, which was stupid, they went to a play action right out of the half or first Down. And that's what changed the momentum of the game, because minnesota was ready for that...
You are a running team, not a passing team. They keep superimposing metrics from a different style of play on to the type of play. That's winning today and that is a rushing quarterback, that's what the dual thread quarterback is.
This is the system they have been setting up the last three years under Sherrone Moore.
They have their squad. They need the stop listening to outside pressure to conform in a way that causes them to lose their identity. Because that's what they're trying to do on the outside confuse michigan because they hate Michigan.
They don't need to decide who the running back is they know who the running back is that's Donovan Edwards, They needed to identify who their power back. Was he kicked the door in? That's Khalel Mullins - And they know who their tight end corp is - Stop trying to conform when you've already won ..
You've made the argument. They're trying to distract. You don't fall for it!
Quit being beguiled by meaningless stats. Telling you, you have to have so many yards per game for a passer. No, you don't. This is a dual threat. Let him run the ball down your throat - whatever wins wins, if your squad wasn't ready, that's on them.
Washington is not gonna be easy, but they smack the hell out of them last year. Let's see what happens next week.
They will be on the road... they need to be convincing - Greg Schiano has Rutgers looking good though - Michigan needs to take note
Schiano has a couple of guys in the stands stealing opposing teams signs , they just happen to look like the Mario Brothers !
@@RWildekrav66 😆
Orji is not a quarterback period I won't bring Davis back NOW... Orji is a disaster at QB.
Orji, sorry young man but you are not a starter at D-1 level. Your coaches are failing you by telling you this!! Get a good education because you are going to need it. So sad that any of you think this is winning football!
They won…again
Coaches are failing him alright, they’re not giving him any chance to succeed.
Oh god at least I get some comedic relief reading numbskulls like you.....Orji has a chance to be very good actually if they'd stop over-coaching him and let him settle in.
Orji is AWFUL.
Kirk cambell*
This was a LOSS, not a win. Thank god for the opportunity lol. You’re not good.
Offense is absolute GARBAGE