Breville BES900 Pump and Solenoid Replacement

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  • @csheed2
    @csheed2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for this video, just replaced both in less than an hour and have pulled my first shot. Running at 4 Bar was just not cutting it.

  • @DeryckWalker
    @DeryckWalker 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stephen I just wanted to say thank you for this fantastic video.
    I used it to replace the solenoid valve and pump on my BES920, and it worked a treat. There were a couple of very minor differences to the 900 internally, but nothing that affects the installation.
    For those reading, my machine started to make a "bzzt" noise when I would pull a coffee, and this progressed to the point the buzzing noise would persist throughout the pull of a coffee. Wasnt sure if it was the pump or solenoid, so just did both.
    The only major difference is I didnt cut the crimp connector off the pump, instead I just pulled the wires from the terminals on the pump and attached to the new one.
    PS: One of my learnings, the original pump an Ulka EP5 has been superseeded by the EX5. All installed beautifully, so compatibility confirmed. The only difference I could really see is the old EP5 has a plastic pump body (the pipe extending out the unit) whilst the EX5 has brass instead of plastic. So I am stoked the replacement brought in an upgraded pump!

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Deryck, thanks for the feedback I'm glad it has been useful.
      Interesting that there has been a change in the pump, hope the new parts go the distance for you!

    • @DeryckWalker
      @DeryckWalker 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stephen I see you've been deluged with queries here, so a bit of guilt for adding one more. Do you happen to know the model of the steam pump in the BES900? All I can find about it is a Ceme 4.5 Bar, but nothing more, think i'll do the pump and solenoid for the steam side of the machine as well

  • @whiterockDFW
    @whiterockDFW 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stephen, many thanks for the video. My Breville BES900 has worked well for four years. However recently, the water flow from the brew head became very low as did the peak pressure (it would not go above 2 bar). I took out the solenoid and it was clear that the small white gasket in the center of the solenoid had deformed to the point of stopping almost all water flow. I ended up using a small drill bit to recreate the hole. I can now make coffee again, but I do have a small leak from the solenoid. It seems the new gasket you show is sold out/no longer available in the US. However there is a company in NZ that still sells them (Need a Part), so that's where I have just ordered one from. I'll install it when it arrives. Again, thanks you for getting my machine up and running again.

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great stuff, good that you're up and running in the meantime. Need a Part is where I got my parts from too, since they're local to me.

  • @allanperry1105
    @allanperry1105 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks mate, had the same buzz problem over a long time now works like a dream again, mine has punched out over 2000 coffees!

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great stuff! Glad you're back up & running.

  • @KaldekBoch
    @KaldekBoch 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheers mate, this video helped me replace my failed pump. Managed to find a supplier open on Xmas eve, but if it wasn't for this video I would not have been able to replace it.

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad to hear it was of use. Would have been an unfortunate time to be without coffee! Cheers.

  • @owenjegan
    @owenjegan 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Stephen,
    Just wanted to say thanks very much for making and posting this video. It's helped psyche me up to finally crack open my ailing machine.
    Regards,
    Owen.

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback. Sometimes it's just helpful to know someone else has gone before and survived!

    • @owenjegan
      @owenjegan 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup. I've messed with lots of old italian commercial machines, but flimsy plastic and magic smoke electronics scare me...

  • @soneeeee4440
    @soneeeee4440 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I have the solenoid problem i guess on an 840 infuser V1 (purch jan 2013). No buzzing for the last 3.7 years. I recently started using the steam wand for milk (literally a few weeks ago), and that seems to have triggered the start of the buzzing (the hotter the machine is, the more buzzing). Now that has spread over to just pulling a shot. I can still get one with minimal buzz (no pun intended) right after the lights come on but it looks like things are going downhill
    How much did you pay for the solenoid? and pump. I was thinking of "overhauling", i.e. changing as many seals as possible along with the pump and solenoid. The pump seems to be working fine though, needle stays up at 1 oclock position when tamped properly, although flow is usually thin and not very foamy, but then again, i don't use really use roasted "last week" beans. At times i have wondered when machine is chocking if because the pump is weak,.
    Would you recommend changing the pump at same time? its not that expensive, and i could always keep the old one as a backup. Still just the 2 parts looks like about 150 US (220C$) . I'm going to check if a service center would be much more (assumning they probably pay much less for their parts). i only paid about 450 for the machine, maybe it would make sense to get a new machine if these problems are just the "tip of the iceberg" on a 4 yr old machine, or are the pump and solenoid and seals the main points of failure, nothing much else expected to fail.
    Other issue i have is that there,s more than 1 version of this machine, i have the older one. So how to be sure getting the right parts?
    which seals would you recommend changing? if any? there's so many different ones
    thx much

  • @cablecartman
    @cablecartman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for posting this! Helped me fix my machine and its running perfectly again.

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well done, glad you're up and running again!

  • @slepax
    @slepax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:50 - no need to cut the yellow wires. Unplug the red wire and white wire then pull the pump all the way up and pull the white thingy out without cutting any wires.

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you're only replacing the OPV, sure... But if you're going to replace the pump, you have to cut that crimp off.

    • @slepax
      @slepax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@stephenlaird1908 I did replace the pump, without cutting any wires.

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@slepax Interesting, they must have changed the design. That will make it easier!

    • @csheed2
      @csheed2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@slepaxI did the same, although there was no goop holding in the white component that slots into the housing on the side of the pump.

  • @yayunjack9209
    @yayunjack9209 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Stephen, thanks for your video. Can you advise which part I should fix and order please? My one is BES920XL, no hot water coming out and no pressure going also the sound is very weak just like hums. The steam isn’t working either only beeped 3 times. Thanks for your time!

  • @davidsingleton7389
    @davidsingleton7389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video, I now have a very happy machine. great simple instructiuons

  • @DentureDarling
    @DentureDarling 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was wondering if you knew anything about the 870xl? I was pulling a shot today and it just turned off and won't come back on. Even after letting it cool. I can't find anything to tell me why it did that or where to start with replacing parts. It's worked great for over two yrs. Thanks

  • @AngieKa2
    @AngieKa2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Stephen,
    I am about to pull my machine apart and ran across your video. Bloody Rippa mate as I now know how to attack it. My just under two year old BES 920 has started leaking water on start up as it gets to 80 degrees. Only leaks about 2 tablespoons of water which runs down the inside of the faceplate and hits the side lip of the pull out tray.Stops before it gets to 93. Think it may need an o ring replacing somewhere but thought I had better fix it before it gets worse.
    On another note........ I had water leaking out of the grouphead the same as yours on two machines that I own and my fix was a bit simpler than yours although yours was I assume the more professional.
    The white rubber ring does not make any difference when putting in a new one so I cut a washer the same size as the ring out of a plastic milk bottle and put that in and then the rubber ring etc etc. Worked a treat and is still working on my machines. May get some readers out of trouble while they are waiting for parts to arrive for a proper fix like the one you posted.
    Thanks again.

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's an interesting leak symptom, could well be a seal on one of the boilers.
      A leak from the grouphead usually indicates a worn or damaged seal so if replacing it doesn't fix it then it's likely the group itself is worn. Looks like a bit of a chore to replace it so I think I'd take the same approach and shim it to get a bit more life.
      Best of luck with the repair!

  • @GadgetsGearCoffee
    @GadgetsGearCoffee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those 2 screws by the group head won't budge at all for me, I am worried I'll ruin the thread. I have a long Philips screw driver in there and am putting as much pressure to secure it but it just won't loosen! :\

  • @bliqphotonics9446
    @bliqphotonics9446 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Stephen, my hot water dispenser works fine, the steam also woks fine but there's only few water drops from the brew group (2 per second). My machine is clean and the pump works well. Can it be the solenoid? Thanks in advance.

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Bliq, my first thought would be the solenoid. Potentially it could be the solenoid gaskets have perished and caused a blockage - particularly if it's an early model.

    • @bliqphotonics9446
      @bliqphotonics9446 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok thank you Stephen, I will replace it. This is a 4 years old model. thanks again for your video and your quick answer.

  • @psychomantis10122
    @psychomantis10122 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gday mate, appreciate your video. Sorry to ask you technical questions, but after trying to descale my machine today for the first time she's tripping the circuit breaker during the warm-up cycle. The descale could not finish and I cant even get her to heat up to 90 degrees unless i reset the breaker several times. I noticed some brown water leaking out of the back, so I figure there must be a leak inside that was caused by opening the valves to empty the boilers. Kind of doesnt explain why its tripping offline during a heat up cycle though. Do you know of a repair manual online? My machine is just out of warranty, so im not afraid to pull it apart and have a look. I just want to look without having to rip everything apart :)
    Thanks for any help.

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm guessing yours is the BES920 model? I recall hearing some of the early ones might have been affected by a firmware issue that did something wrong during the descale process, but not certain of that. I haven't seen inside one of those first hand, I'd probably open it up and see what I could see, perhaps try and drain & refill the boilers again. Tripping the breaker though does imply either significant over-current fault or earth leakage - which could happen if there's an internal leak. Sorry - not much help.

    • @psychomantis10122
      @psychomantis10122 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for getting back to me. My unit is about 2.5 yrs old, so could be old firmware. I've had no luck with it today. Fortunately i discovered that mine has an extended warranty. Once i've got it back from servicing Ill let you know the culprit. Again, thanks for responding.

  • @charlesdu4825
    @charlesdu4825 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stephen! I have the BES900. I have yet used it for a while and now the group head and hot water spout has no water coming out. The steam ward seems to be ok. Is this pump failure or something else? How do I fix it?

    • @wackywixted
      @wackywixted 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can you hear the usual vibration noise or is it silent? If silent that's pump failure, if not it might be the solenoid.

  • @LeSimpleMarco
    @LeSimpleMarco 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Stephen, as everyone here i have similar problem. I make the coffe and my steamer and hot water suddenly stopt coming out as well as the shot and the pressure do not moves. It makes sound like the machine pumping but nothing comes up. The actual heater gets really hot , i did clean all pipes to make sure there is way through them. only thing is that my machine is BES870 I am not sure does my pump dead as i turn on it make the sound, but the water don't come to the pipes. If you have any suggestions let me know i appreciate.

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not too familiar with that machine. From a quick look at a not very good parts diagram, I *think* it has an arrangement where a pump drives water through a thermoblock, and a two-way solenoid then directs water either between the pump and three-way solenoid, or between the group and drip tray. The three-way solenoid directs water from the two-way solenoid to the group/hot water or steam wand.
      So, if you don't get any water through the group even without the portafilter in place then it could be that the pump has failed, that either solenoid has failed, or there's a blockage inside the thermocoil or pump or a solenoid. Bit tricky to narrow things down from there really. You could try disconnecting the output hose from the thermocoil, and attaching a temporary hose to somewhere safe and see if there's water flow at that point, and if so then do the same with each solenoid in turn.
      Just have to be very careful not to get water ending up inside a live machine...

    • @LeSimpleMarco
      @LeSimpleMarco 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stephen Laird , thank you for making effort and healping me. I did check thermocoil it's seems not be bloked, I will play with stelonoids and will see what hepens.

  • @lonerunman
    @lonerunman 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Stephen - thanks for the video, it is very helpful and will save me some cussing. Just wondering where you got the new solenoid from, was it ereplacementparts? They are backordered for that part so I'm wondering if you had another source. Thanks a bunch!

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I sourced my parts from here: www.needapart.co.nz/buy-online/parts-for/breville-bes900
      It was a 3 week wait for me. Note that the electrical parts from there will be the 240V versions.
      The parts list on ereplacementparts is better though as it has the cross-reference: www.ereplacementparts.com/images/breville/BES900XL.pdf

  • @severthee
    @severthee 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello, i am not sure if it was mentioned already in the above comments. there are two pumps in mine, red for stea, and a black for the brew/coffee. was wondering if they are just the same pump with different body. thanks

  • @glennhuang4731
    @glennhuang4731 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Stephen, I have a Barista Express BES870XL. After de-calcifying recently, I noticed the pre-infusion became abnormally long and the actual extraction short when using the 1 cup/2 cup buttons. It is as if some valve doesn't flip over from pre-infusion to full extraction. Since the machine is still able to achieve high pressure during extraction, I'm currently doing a work-around by manually controlling the shot volume with the 1 cup button. This essentially forces the machine to go from pre-infusion to full extraction when I let go of the 1 cup button (which I then press again to stop the extraction). What do you think may be the issue?

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, does the pressure ramp up from pre-infusion to full as quickly as it used to? If not then i'd suspect an issue with the solenoid - could be gasket related or a bit of crud that was dislodged by the descale and got stuck where it shouldn't.
      If it does ramp pressure up normally then maybe the descale process has reset factory defaults for preinfusion pressure, time and shot volume and you might need to adjust them (these three variables are customisable on the 900... I imagine they are on yours as well).

  • @paulwary
    @paulwary 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great how-to video. Most likely cause of low pressure would be the pump? Are you recommending to replace solenoid at the same time as the pump regardless of symptoms?

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. In my case the pressure problem was the pump failing under load - the solenoid still worked fine but the buzzing noise was rather annoying and I figured it was going to go sooner or later so I decided to replace both at once.
      There is another common problem where the machine ramps very slowly to pressure - this is most likely the solenoid gasket has perished and caused a blockage (or potentially the solenoid itself has failed), that mainly affected early machines I think.

    • @paulwary
      @paulwary 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. The pressure in my BES900 is down around 4-5 bar. Ive learnt in other blogs/videos that the solenoid connection in the BES900 is prone to corrosion due to dissimilar metals, plus clogging due to calcification. That seems the most common cause of low (but not zero) pressure. Thus the advent of the large silicone gasket kit covering the whole mating surface, to replace the small internal gaskets. So as a first measure I plan to replace the gasket and, while while I have access to the boiler, decalcify the system from the tank, which will hopefully clean the pump too, flush, drain the boiler, and reflush. Breville cut corners with the 900, with no descaling capability - a big omission for such an expensive machine.

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it's a shame that Breville made it such a chore to descale the 900. At least they learned for the newer version!

    • @paulwary
      @paulwary 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought a pump and am cautiously going through your steps. The box of white smoke is tethered by signal wires at the top, and power at the bottom, meaning I cant push it aside fully. And there is very little spare wire on the pump connections, so I would rather avoid attempting this if I can avoid it. I have a soldering iron, not a crimping tool, but I doubt there is enough room to do this.
      I tried to wiggle the spade connectors off the pump, but without success so far. I can apply more force, with the risk that I will either damage the spade connectors or slip and damage something else when it comes off. How much force did you need to use to get them off? Do you think this is a viable to get them off and back on again with the pump in-situ?

    • @paulwary
      @paulwary 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never mind. I got the spade connectors off and changed the pump. Huge improvement in the flavour of the coffee. However, now the pressure is over 11 bar, so I guess I should adjust the OPV?

  • @santiagocolombres839
    @santiagocolombres839 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Stephen, many thanks for your video. Is there a way to know beforehand if I have to replace the pump, the solenoid or both? I have to order thespare parts overseas because the machine is 110v and I'm in a 220v country.

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a little tricky diagnosing remotely but if you're finding that the machine still gets to pressure and can maintain that (e.g. using a blind filter and press & hold the 1-cup or 2-cup button to bypass pre-infusion) but takes several seconds for it to get to pressure, then I'd suspect the solenoid / solenoid gasket. Losing pressure under load, I'd tend to suspect the pump.

    • @santiagocolombres839
      @santiagocolombres839 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stephen Laird Thank you very much Stephen. The noise is lower than it was, the pressure is close to 1, but I can still make coffee. All even throughout, except for a brief attempt (of less than a second) to "start" something. Please let me know if I can send you a short video. Thanks again!

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hard to say... that's sounding to me more like solenoid valve / gaskets. I sold my machine some time ago so I'm not really as familiar with it any more, but I'll take a look if you put up a video - show what happens both with a blind filter and just what the water flow through the group is like.

  • @apecambodia2521
    @apecambodia2521 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Stephen, I've got a BES920 having been used for 4 months. Recently, the pump is sort of failed to pump water. It was pumping only for the first few seconds then it started to make clicking sounds as if it was blocked of any scale or debris. After the pump was confirmed block free, I tested the electric supply to the pump and found out the pump is supplied with only 50 to 60V when it was supposed to be 220-240V. Are you able to shed some light as to why this has been caused? Could it be the whole main board that causes the issue? Looking forward to your reply.
    Thanks

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like an electronic issue... I can't help you remotely with that, but if it's 4 months old I'd expect it to still be under warranty.

  • @azherarafah3733
    @azherarafah3733 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi Stephen,
    I am facing a problem with same machine. It stared as buzzing sound but I still can brew. Later on the buzzing stopped but the machine would not brew (no water coming out) and the pressure gauge is not moving. However, I still can froth the milk and get hot water for the tea. I opened the machine and I found that there is no leaking anywhere. I noticed also that there was no water moving in the hose going into solenoid!!
    what do think the problem is?
    Thank you in advance for the help.

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's an interesting one! If there's no water coming out the group at all and no pressure, then the options are either a pump failure, solenoid failure or a blockage.
      Since the pump is still dispensing water it should be able to give you at least something through the group if the water flow is unimpeded (mine would give me low pressure water through the group). Potentially there could be a blockage between the brew boiler and solenoid dispersion block (would be worthwhile taking the solenoid off to have a look at the gaskets). But I'm inclined to think the solenoid has failed and isn't opening to allow water to the group. If you have a multimeter on hand you could see if it gets voltage when you hit a brew switch - if it gets voltage then the machine is telling it to operate and it isn't. You could also disconnect the wires and measure the coil impedance - if the coil is open then that's fairly conclusive but it might still measure ok if it's a mechanical failure of the solenoid.

    • @azherarafah3733
      @azherarafah3733 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much for your prompt response. I did as you instructed and I took the solenoid off and as you you expected there was a blockage. I took some picture put I don't know if there is way to show you the pictures. So, I cleared the blockage but I had to remove the black rubber circles they were completely damaged. Then I reconnected the solenoid and turned the machine on and after reaching the 203 C, I hit the manual button, and as I expected the water started leaking from under the solenoid ( due to removing the rubber circles). But the good news is the water started coming out from the brewing head, however I don't know if the amount and the pressure is normal. I tried to make an espresso shot, what I noticed is the pressure gauge did not move!!! and there was little coffee coming out the portafilter (understandable since a lot of the water is leaking from underneath the solenoid). So what should I do next?

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok, sounds like the solenoid gaskets have perished. This was a common problem with these machines early on and Breville changed to a different type. Since you now have water coming through the solenoid and you didn't before I think that new solenoid gaskets will likely get you up and running. I doubt you'd get much pressure without them, not sure if I'd expect the gauge to move or not. I'd try the gaskets first and see what happens.

    • @azherarafah3733
      @azherarafah3733 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stephen Laird
      Thank you very much, l will buy an new solenoid and see what happens.
      Once again thank you very much for the video and your help.

  • @Amirichi
    @Amirichi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, when cutting off the crimp wire joiner, do I cut both of the cables going into it as close as possible then simply connect the cable from the new pump into it?

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep that's it. You'll need another suitable crimp termination obviously to replace the one you cut off, or solder & heatshrink.

  • @drdarrow
    @drdarrow 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your help. If you do anymore videos PLEASE make the photos the full frame, and overlay the text.

  • @pauldubar6014
    @pauldubar6014 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey everyone, great tutorial and feedback. Can anyone rell me if my pump is kaput or solenoid if no water comes out the hot warer spout or the brew head when i operate them? The machine makes a horrible noise when trying. It powers on and reaches 93C no problem. The steam wand works fine too.

    • @csheed2
      @csheed2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Describe the horrible noise.

  • @joamon559
    @joamon559 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant, thank you.

  • @soneeeee4440
    @soneeeee4440 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    you say you used the buzzing solenoid for 18 months, so it never actually caused the machine to stop pouring?. maybe i should just ignore the buzzing until it quits - will the solenoid buzzing prevent coffee production? thx

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      In my case, it didn't cause any issues with extraction for quite some time - though I know others haven't been quite so lucky.
      Yours is a different machine to mine and I haven't seen inside one. I'd imagine though many parts are common to both but do make sure you check to make sure you're getting the right parts ;-).
      If it were me, I don't see the value in going through and replacing seals & things just for the sake of it. It sounds like your solenoid is on the way out, up to you if you want to wait until it fails completely or get one beforehand.
      I think I paid ~$210NZD for the solenoid kit, brew pump (240V versions) and a couple of other bits, so similar to what you've found. I don't know what a service centre would charge - took me about an hour and a half I suppose. They'd likely charge for 2 or 3...
      With regards to your extraction, if you're able to get 50-60ml for a double of ~18g in ~30secs and it's thin and no creama, yep that sounds like old coffee.

    • @soneeeee4440
      @soneeeee4440 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      had you considered whether possible to repair the solenoid? it seems to happen to some after decalc. which suggests that a foreign body is interfering with operation.

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's possible the solenoid might be repairable. I kept my old one to have a look at "one day". But as it happens I've now replaced this machine (it still works fine and I intend to try and sell it) so that might or might not happen now.

  • @tarranramcharitar3798
    @tarranramcharitar3798 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, I have BES830XL model, the pump and the solenoid is functioning, however I’m not seeing the water flowing through the filter. Please note the machine was down for sometime. Any possible solution?

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi,
      Hmm. That's a curious one. You're sure the pump and solenoid are working (not just sounding like they are)? If so... then a guess would be a blockage in a pipe somewhere. Maybe a bit of crud got in there somewhere when the machine was down. I'd check the condition of the solenoid seals too if you've not already done so. Sorry, really guessing here.

  • @katieturner7713
    @katieturner7713 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, my machine is not brewing hot enough, 70C. I've de-scaled a few times and done the clean cycle several times. Any idea where I should go from here. I don't have the opportunity to send it in for repairs. Thanks

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Katie, sorry I haven't come across that one. Interesting that it heats that far and stops, guessing a bit... I wonder if there's an electronic fault or perhaps an air-lock in the system. Maybe try draining & refilling the boilers?

    • @gleamnite
      @gleamnite 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Boiler thermostat?

  • @chrisnewman7281
    @chrisnewman7281 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who supplied the spares parts. The local Australian Breville distributor won’t provide me with them

    • @joamon559
      @joamon559 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can get them on eBay in Australia. Or ewingelectrical dot com dot au.

  • @ashhassani4639
    @ashhassani4639 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Stephen, my machine does not build pressure past 5 bar and that is with blind Portafilter Basket and the OVP on maximum. Do you think it is the pump? Also my existing solenoid did not have a gasket and it was not leaking, is this normal not to have a gasket?

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Ash, the original solenoid gaskets were small o-rings that had a tendency to perish... I'd wonder if a part of one of those has gotten stuck somewhere. Could well be the pump, but I'd be inclined to check the rest of the plumbing from the input side of the solenoid through to the group first.

    • @ashhassani4639
      @ashhassani4639 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Stephen, I opened the solenoid and the two small plastic o rings were in perfect shape. So would it be the pump then? is there away to test the pressure on my pump? Should i upgrade to the newer solenoid gasket? what would be the best site for spare parts in Aus? thanks for your help.

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Diagnosing-by-wire is a little tricky... Could well be the pump - does it sound like it always used to? But also do what you can to eliminate other components. E.g. both the Solenoid and OVP themselves are capable of producing similar symptoms if they develop a fault and don't pass water through freely.
      I'm not sure if there's anywhere in Aus that stocks spare parts, but needapart.co.nz will ship them (and a bonus, you won't pay GST):
      www.needapart.co.nz/buy-online/parts-for/breville-bes900

  • @leonshamis
    @leonshamis 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stephen,
    How did you remove the OVP from the pump?
    Thanks!

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It just unscrews. Anti-clockwise iirc.

  • @dubyjaraz
    @dubyjaraz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello stephen! I am writing from Argentina. I own a bes920xl. I did the descaling and after that, the coffee is perfect, but the staeamer does not start, not even the steam operation light comes on ...when the lever is activated so that the steam starts, nothing happens, only 3 beeps.
    I have reviewed and performed the descaling several times, now a small noise is heard when the pump works, and the water cames out from the grouphead, which I did not heared before when it worked
    I have read in several forums and they say that it could be the solenoid valve?
    I wrote to Breville's technical service, but they tell me that they can not attend me when they come from outside the United States.
    Could you please advise me on what inconvenience it may be? ... I do not have technical support to appeal. thank you very much

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Bernardo. I'm not too familiar with that machine, but that doesn't sound like a solenoid problem to me.
      I think that there was a firmware problem with the descale process for some of the early units that resulted in the thermal fuse for the steam boiler tripping and so the steam boiler wasn't heated after the descale. Another possibility is the steam boiler might not be being filled, maybe due to an airlock somewhere but I think the pump would be trying to run all the time if so. I recall reading that there was a firmware update and change to the descale process at some stage but I don't know the details sorry.
      I'd try to see if the steam boiler is filling, and check that it is being heated and if it isn't check or replace the thermal fuse.

    • @dubyjaraz
      @dubyjaraz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Stephen!
      Thanks for your prompt response. It is very important to me!
      The steam boiler shows no signs of wanting to start, it does not turn on the light ...
      try to do several times the descaling process, and opening the valve of the steam boiler sometimes releases cold water and sometimes not .... but steam with no security ... with which I estimate that it enters sometimes but does not heat up.
      How would you verify if the steam boiler is filling?
      Since if it is not this, would it be the fuse?
      In what you refer to the firmware update, as corroborated with the technical support, the machine that I buy already has it updated.
      Thank you very much for the help!

    • @dubyjaraz
      @dubyjaraz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      hi! I have done the descale process again, according to the steps indicated for my model. In the beginning I must turn left the screw that opens the steamer valve allowing the boiler to empty...and I saw that water came out but it was cold...
      the first time that I´ve done the descaling, in this step the water was hot...keeping the previously same conditions of passed time after working.
      I´m starting to feel that the thermal fuse it´s the problem.... How can I check it?
      I´ve searched in the web...and it seems to be discontinued. Where can I found it?
      tks

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm, from that it's most likely the thermal fuse. Could be the element but I think less likely. Really, the only way to find out for sure is to open it up and test, a multimeter will soon tell you. Maybe you have a friend who is into electronics / an electrician who likes coffee ;-)
      If it is the thermal fuse and I think Argentina is 220V then you might find these links helpful:
      www.needapart.co.nz/buy-online/parts-for/breville-bes920
      media.needapart.co.nz/manuals/BES920.pdf
      www.needapart.co.nz/buy-online/breville-espresso-coffee-machine-fuse---wires-for-steam-boiler-bes900-10132303
      - looks like a common part to the BES900 & 920.
      However, that's a tricky part of the machine to get to. If you're not technically minded yourself you will likely need some help. Definitely someone confident working on mains voltages.

    • @dubyjaraz
      @dubyjaraz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      My machine is 110v and I bought it in the USA.
      those links are to parts that run 220v only or the same is 110-240V .. so I read, nothing is clarified.
      I searched in ereplacements and it seems that they are not easy to find
      thank you very much for your guidance.

  • @escflooring4179
    @escflooring4179 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Stephen, maybe you could assist with my problem..I have a Breville BES860 (looks very similar to your machine), it brews ok but the steamer is no longer creating enough steam. What could be going wrong?

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not sure, could be a few things - might simply be a blockage somewhere in the steam valve or line back to the boiler, or the steam boiler might not be getting up to temp. If you haven't done it already, take the steam tip off and see if there's a blockage there.

    • @escflooring4179
      @escflooring4179 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Stephen, thanks for your reply. I've done the basics, I somehow think that the problem lies inside the device where you switch the steam on. Do you have any experience with this?

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, I didn't have any steam issues with mine so never had occasion to look too closely at that area. From a quick search, the BES860 looks like it might be a thermoblock machine that heats to create steam only when the steam is turned on. Assuming the steam light turns on (there will be a switch integrated into the steam knob telling the machine to start heating) then the most likely thing will be the steam control valve itself, or a blockage on the input side to it.

    • @chrisnewman7281
      @chrisnewman7281 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      There’s a tool included with the machine you can use to unblock the three little nozzles at the tip of the steam wand

  • @dubyjaraz
    @dubyjaraz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi Stephen! It´s me again! ;) Now I have a problem with the portafilter and filter of my bes920xl.
    I put the ground coffee, put the portafilter in the group head, adjusting normally, I serve coffee without any problems or losses of any kind ... when I take out the filter holder, the filter is stuck in the head and it is difficult to remove it ... what could it be?

    • @stephenlaird1908
      @stephenlaird1908  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't know... I guess the obvious things to check are that the filter basket hasn't been damaged (still round), and that the spring in the portafilter is ok.
      Also check the shower screen is fitted correctly, i.e. not hanging down too low due to a loose screw.

    • @csheed2
      @csheed2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Excess grounds, leading to the puck sticking to the filter screen and a weak spring in the portafilter will result in this. Check that the straight sections in the portafilter spring are still straight, if not, pull out the spring, straighten them, and reinstall.

    • @adrianhowchin1519
      @adrianhowchin1519 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had this problem, where the basket would get stuck in the group head. Nothing wrong with my portafilter. It turns out my shower screen was cracked, so I replaced it. No issues any more.

  • @maximlamoureux4129
    @maximlamoureux4129 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't yank out the inlet hose from the old pump, does NOT move no matter what I do :/

    • @1977pbrown
      @1977pbrown 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. I guess you won't see this message until I'm done.. But just in case. What did you end up using to the get that damn hose off the barbed fitting

    • @1977pbrown
      @1977pbrown 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok brute force got it. Long nose pliers marked the hose but at least it's low pressure side.

  • @YusriSalleh
    @YusriSalleh 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello stephen , can u disassemble the 3 way solenoid and clean it?

  • @franklinquintanilla2912
    @franklinquintanilla2912 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the song name?