Quickly Root your Creality K1 Max or K1 Printers
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If you want to get the most out of your printer and start to explore other options in automation and calibration and just plain FUN with your Creality printer, you'll want to root it. It allows you to easily access the printer through the Fluidd or Mainsail UIs, it lets you monitor them wirelessly, send to them wirelessly though quite a few different slicers (I like Orca, but Prusa is another good option)
Where it really comes in handy is allowing you to make adjustments that suit your setup. You can install KAMP to get a faster probe and better first layer, you can create custom GCODES.
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Super helpful! I had a maintenance day on my printer and have been wanting to dive into this, but never really got the chance until now. I was running stock everything for over a year. Less than an hour of time to set this up from start to end and wish I did it sooner. Thank you for getting me out of the dark ages with my K1 Max!
BTW, SSH is now built into command prompt of WIN 11
I have implemented this strategy and it along with adding bed adjustability and heat soaking the bed, have mad my K1 Max a much better printer. Thanks a ton for these how-tos.
That's awesome, all of these little things will get us where we need to be. I love the rooted printer too, having that full control and using more advance slicers and Mainsail as well, we're moving in the right direction with these printers. I'd like to see everything open and using Klipper right out of the box. Maybe there is a noob version to get started and then we can switch to advanced when we're ready.
Straight to the point and had all the information I needed to get this done in less than 5 minutes
Great job, thank you
First video that clearly actually shows the first few steps of copying the installer helper.
Nicely done. Thank you.
May do this one day!
The process can seem a bit risky for anyone that hasn't done it yet, I wanted to show something as quick and painless as possible so that more people can Root and have a better experience overall with these printers.
@@NeedItMakeIt Can I email you my rattling noise at all, see if you have any insights. I commented on your Riser video about it if you remember?
I could try upload to TH-cam a video tbh
@@DSPrints_ I still have it as well, sure you can email me a short video and we can see if there is some consistent reason for it. It seems to be only when I'm printing between the 4 support posts under the bed. It's a bit strange. Needitmakeit@gmail.com is my email if you want to send something my way, a link to a short video might work the best. If we put our heads together I think we can get to the bottom of it.
@@NeedItMakeIt Thank you sir, I've emailed you with an unlisted video link.
Guilouz’s script getting more love 👍
He and his team mates on this have done a great job on it, so easy!
Don't know if I'll ever use it or need it but the information was very good, thank you.
I tried to make this as short as possible, walkthrough videos are usually hard to get through. Any new Creality printer I get is rooted right away, I like using Orca so much and I like having the ability to change anything I want to make it work the best for me. I highly recommend rooting and using Klipper like it was meant to be used.
Using it with stock works, and if that's what you want, that's cool too.
I've found that Creality print isn't up to the level of the other slicers, that's one of the reasons to switch as well.
perfect. i was looking at using orca slicer for the k1 max.
Getting ready to try rooting my K1 with your instructions.
Let me know how it goes and if you need any help. Once you get through it the first time, it's so much easier after that.
Thanks Michael, all rooted, kudos to you and Guilouz 😁
Nice, I'm glad it worked out. It looks like the landing page has been updated, I'll have a look to make sure it's all working well.
A simple and clear explanation, thank you!
Tip. Guilouz script has been updated which is causing errors (i.e. KAMP gui updater no longer working due to repo having been removed) if you do not reset your printer to factory default for those that want to give it a try. 'Due to many changes in files, it's necessary to reset factory settings before using script!', 'New script version 5.0.0'. Please note that a factory reset will also delete your timelaps video's. If you care to keep them please export them to a usb drive before the reset.
Great content man!! Really made the whole process easy!!
Do you have any video related to filament (PLA) not sticking into the table? Thanks!
I don't normally comment on videos but wanted to say thank you for this.
Thank you for taking the time. I heard that the link was broken, they've changed the website for the walkthrough so I've re-linked the updated version and it should work well now.
Thank you so much my man I’m gonna try this later today!!!🎉🎉🎉
My pleasure, I've tried to give you just the info you need. I found it hard to find anything good when I did this a few months ago for the first time and walkthroughs are usually so long and, well boring.
One comforting addition, even if the rooting goes astray, one can easily restore the original factory code and start over 😅 or forget it.
@@philipershler420 It works really well, I was going to show that part in the video, but decided that I wanted to keep it as short as possible. I've only had one problem with rooting, and it was because I also installed Guppy on my K1, when I did this, it set my printer's IP to 0.0.0.0. but it wasn't actually that IP, I had to login to my internet provider to find the real IP address and then I was able to connect. It hasn't happened since and I don't know what caused it.
Great guide, thanks!
You're very welcome, I know that when I tried to do this the first time it wasn't so easy, after a few times you get the hang of it. I thought a quick video might help a few people.
thank you for creating some amazing videos. i have a k1max. if i root the device would i still be able to use the accessory side mounted cooling fan when slicing with creality slicer. i have noticed some where else that there were some issues when rooting. sorry if i missed this info in any of your ealier videos. thank you
Thanks for the video. Just got my K1 and going to root it now. Which slicer do you like best for the K1?
Would love to see a video of the pros and cons of rooting K1 max/K1.
I didn't know there were any cons... well JK there are a few and I've had a couple of them, I'll think about it and see if I can fit it into the schedule.
Thank you for the walkthrough! I have done this and now setup Cura to be able to print directly which makes me very happy considering my other printer is an X1C and it was quite annoying having to save the G Code and then upload it to Creality cloud... My question though, Creality Cloud I checked the box for AI detection... how can I ensure that it still does that now that I'm having Cura send it straight to the printer?
Thanks for making a straight and to the point video. I followed both this and the guide from Guilouz and the only issue ran into is im not able to access my camera. Do you know if theres a work around for this yet? the error its throwing for my k1max is "you have the new hardware version of the camera and its not compatible!"
Thank you very 🙂
you have the best guides ans easiest, cheers.
I just have one problem in the site shown in your video at 2:14 it says install script in "/root", but when I opened it it says install it in "usr/data folder"
So It didn't work when I copied wyou, where is this usr/data and how can I access it?
also I noticed that you installed both fluid and mainsail, I thought you can download only one
If you wish to change the printer's default ssh password, you can do so using the "passwd" command after logging on to the printer.
Leaving the default password can be risky, as it's like leaving the keys in the lock. Anyone can connect to your printer if they have access to the ssh port (22) and because it's basically a linux computer, they can do a lot of stuff.
Good point, do you know how to have the new default password display on the printer screen, just incase it is forgotten?
Well... That's the problem x)
I don't know if it is possible to display it on the screen.
3D printing the password would be a solution so you can keep it on the printer just in case it is forgotten 😁.
If you don't want to change the password, you can start by at least changing the default ssh port.
Thank you for all of your videos on the k1 max, super helpful!
Thanks for all your help. This worked for me. It allowed me to connect via Orca and print remotely. But why did we install 1 to 8? I don't quite understand.
The installation isn't just a single set of codes, it's separated, you don't need to install all of them, but there are some features which won't be activated unless you do. It would be nice to have the install do all necessary programs at one time, but this is not setup for one printer, not to do just one task, someone more skilled than I am could explain it better, but you may want to add/remove certain parts while other parts are unaffected.
@@NeedItMakeIt Thanks for the explanation. I installed all the packages anyway, I don't understand it yet, but I hope I will learn it in time.
@@KealTR No worries, most of it is beyond me as well, some of the features beyond 8 are also pretty neat, but they're getting more advanced and it's good to just start with the basics.
Hello, Thank you for your video, i was able to root K1 and using Fluidd macros I am trying to tune up k1 input shaper. So far I have made much progress, especially levelling bed with mesh visualizer however I'm hoping you can help clarify something, what is the difference between Auto tune shapers, belts shaper calibration, input shaper calibration, input shaper. Do I need to run them all when setting up printer after fresh root?
thanks a lot!
You're welcome. It looks like the creator has made some upgrades to the process as well, which is one of the nice things about this setup, you can always be up to date.
followed the guide and worked for me. question though, the after the root the z axis stepper motor doesnt shut down anymore after auto leveling and gets a bit hot. do you know of a fix?
It would be nice if someone could get bamboo AMS to work with the creality k1 max and k1
the ams requires a cutter in the print head, else you will purge even more material
I am pretty sure Creality is working on a color printing method. they have most of the components in place to do it, maybe use the USB on the front or the extra slots in the board. If we could even get one more color I'd be happy with that!
After printing with color for some time now, I have gone to using only 2-3 colors and they're usually only in on the first layer or in one small spot on the model. Color is too expensive and too time consuming... unless maybe you're running the Prusa XL with multi-heads!
I agree
Thanks for the video. Is there a way to reverse this if the printer needs to be returned under warranty?
they dont care about that
Can I do this for the Neptune 4 max and if so do I just follow the same direction's.
Thank you for the video. Does any of this prevent me from upgrading to newer official firmware?
You might want to revise the video, as of March 10th the Wiki completely changed and now the script is called Helper Script (V. 5.0.0)
Pretty sure you have to factory reset your printer and redo the process for firmware updates.
I have got everything installed as in the video. Went smoothly, but can not get printer to link up in orcaslicer, i get an error code about octoprint being required?
So what are the main benefits of doing this? Like does this improves print quality? Does this improves it's average print speed? Are there any negative sides to it? Thanks
It allows you to access all of the files on the printer, which means that if you want to get more advanced, you can do that. It allows you to install KAMP, which is a better way of probing, which is more precise and efficient, it allows you to use Orca slicer which is better than Creality Print by far, or other slicers and send directly to the printer over WIFI, you'll have a better interface with your printer using Fluidd or Mainsail as well. There are many more reasons, but that's just what comes to mind right now. No you don't need to, but if you want better results and more control, it's a good idea. The GITHUB is constantly being updated as well to simplify it and include new features.
Hello, I did the install but can't access through the browser. Does the 4408 come directly after the printer IP or is it .4408 or /4408 or something?
edit : probably should of read the directions its :4408
So let's say your IP is 10.0.0.99 you'll write 10.0.0.99:4409 or if you want Fliudd, it would be :4408 . Give that a go and let me know.
@@NeedItMakeIt I'm having the same issue trying to access the printer through my brower. im not making the connection trough moonraker when i try mainsail. and fluid is saying im having a CORS issue. not sure what to do now
@@teaski3700 You may want to power off and then back on, also check to see that your printer's IP address hasn't changed, sometimes they change and it's a bit annoying when it does. If you can't get it to work, go through the install process for those 1-8 items, it could be that something did not work correctly. This is something that has been reported back to me once so far. Let me know!
Hello. In fluidd - my k1 max camera - working well. When i am switch on maisailOS - my camera doesnt work. Maybe i need to instal some features from helper script??
I would like to know if the procedure is reversible? Can I go back to the original? In what way ?
Yes, there is a factory-reset utility, you should be able to google it, you need it connected to your WIFI and then you'd type your IP for your printer, it will revert it back. I've done this several times and it works well. It will put it back to how it came to you, including the IP address, you'll need to do everything again.
Is doing this fully supported by Creality? Doing so wont affect warranty or anything?
Doing this is made possible by Creality, however they also have warnings about affecting the warranty. The issue with rooting the printer and their concern with it is that you will now have full control to change anything. That means that you can change things that you may not yet understand and bad things can happen. I believe that is why they have the warning message appear.
I have so many printers now and I haven't had to use a warranty claim for anything yet. if there is a problem I can usually fix it myself, but I can't really say I remember a time when I've had something fail. I'll have to think about that for a while, but I don't think there has been a case yet.
I didn't find the link where I go to copy the commands and paste them into moba!
I need only fluidd, I not want more. It is possible to install only the first step?
You'd need to install Moonraker and Fluidd, I suppose it's possible that you can do those installs and see where that leaves you. It won't be full-featured since there are some extra functions which become available as you do the other installations down the list.
We have a K1C, do you think this info will apply the same to this printer? We are interested in Rooting the printer but wonder about the obstacles, being a newer model.
I'm not sure that they've released the firmware to allow it to be rooted yet, do you have an option at the printer to select ROOT? If not it will be available soon, and it will be the same process All of my newer Creality printers are done the same way. The KE was rooted recently as well, works really well, I just really prefer having a Klipper setup and the ability to have full control.
@@NeedItMakeIt ok thank you! We will check that to see if root is an option. Do you have a K1C yet? I run an A1 and my son has a Frankenstein 'd Aquila C2 so we are still learning..
@@travismostrom7510 I'd like a K1C, but I have so many printers and projects on the list I don't know if I could even fit it in. The K1C isn't too far from the K1, but has a few nice upgrades. I'm curious about the extruder, it looks like they've updated it again.
I'm still on the Ender 3 KE, I have a linear rail upgrade coming in the next few days for anyone with the same issues I was having, but I also want to try out the new Ender 3 V3 Metal Frame, it looks like a nice unit, and I like that it matches the K1 styling and color combos, a more pro look and less black which is kinda hard to keep clean.
Lots to learn and it never stops, there is a lot of development in this field, I'm just wondering what the next big thing is going to be. We're getting some printers with a MAG-LEV style of motor, no belts so I guess that means no VFAs?
@@NeedItMakeIt 10-4. Well, we are excited to keep learning and evolving. There is a root menu on the K1C so we may try to root it and rewatch you videos and try to see what this printer can do and adjustments we can make. May be asking some more questions soon. 😂 Thank you for answering my questions!
@@travismostrom7510 Okay that's good to know, if there is a root menu, there should be a website that Creality has that corresponds to that, if it's too early the walkthrough might just be the Creality one, but it'll work fine, it just might not be quite as simple as the K1.
Let me know how it goes and if you need any info, I'm happy to help where I can.
Cr-10 se?
Hi, I have problem with K1. It's changing IP adress whenever I turn it off and on. So every time I want to use OrcaSlicer for example I must firstly check new IP on the printer and then type it to Slicer. It's super annoying, the printer is connected to the router via WIFI. Can you help with that?
I have this on occasion, I bet there is a way to set the IP to be static, but it's a bit beyond me. I think you can do this through your WIFI. I can see that being very annoying and I find it annoying and mine only does it once a month or so. It must be related to the IP address being taken by another device.
@NeedItMakeIt
So i have KAMP installed and everything enabled in the slicer. I went through and configured the settings for KAMP I am getting a proper KAMP purge directly next to the print but no matter what i do it seems to keep meshing the entire bed. Thoughts?
Yes, you need to enable Exclude parts and label parts if you have them. Which slicer are you using?
@@NeedItMakeItI have them enabled, its orca slicer. I have even used exclude object a few times when i had issues on a big print.
@@FPVPreacher Very strange indeed. I'm going to go for the solution that my IT guy would use first, as silly as it might sound. Have you restarted your computer?
I say this because I've had some trouble with Orca and other slicers when I switch between printers, sometimes it doesn't seem to do what I asked it to and thinks I'm still on a different printer... when the K1 thinks it's a Max... very bad things happen.
My only other thought for you is to uninstall KAMP, and then reinstall it, perhaps we have a case where one of the files was not modified through the helper script.
@@NeedItMakeIt of course. Unlike many people. My pc actually doesn't stay on over night. I definitely think it's something in the configuration on the K1 because I have a hotrodded S1pro and it works with KAMP just fine.
@@FPVPreacher I had something similar but it was completely my fault, when I installed KAMP the first time I did it manually, that ended up being a mistake, when I found the helper script... they did not get along and it cause a lot of problems. I ended up resetting the printer to factory, re-rooting it and then installing KAMP and it worked perfectly afterward.
That was my dum-dum mistake though, and not having experienced it before I didn't know exactly what to look out for.
Creality Print also has exclude parts now, can you try through that slicer to see if there is a difference?
Muito bom, me ajudou muito ❤
if im doing eversthing like your guide sais it says after typing ip and root into mobaxterm Network error connection timed out, like it couldnt find my printer
ok nevermind i was connected to the guest wifi with my K1 so it didnt work
@@lelolwlp No worries, the other issue can be that your printer isn't close enough and has trouble connecting. This is a common problem for me as I am in my workshop/garage and it isn't the best connection.
Have you notice any high CPU usage? Even on idle I get around 70-80% CPU doing nothing.
I can't say that I have, I'd have to go back and check to be sure though.
did everything to the t and nothing happends. i installed 1-9 and 14. says there installed but cannot connect to either port. and your link is difrent now please help
Hi there, apologies, I didn't see your comment come through. They keep changing the website as they do updates, I've re-linked it. Are you still having some issues?
When installing root software I dont see it for the K1C, do I just install flr the K1?
It may not be released yet from Creality, there are some changes to the printer which might cause them to want to wait on that. The motors for XY are smaller and run smaller timing pulleys and that's supposed to reduce the VFA issues (It seems to work) aside from that though it should be pretty much identical from a firmware standpoint. Does yours have a filament runout sensor in the extruder now?
@@NeedItMakeItNot that I know of, I only see a filament sensor at the back of the machine. I just finished installing the root access and most of the features, only one I could not do is the camera settings since it says I have an updated version of the camera and it is not compatible.
@@alannguyen5050 I think there is some info online about the camera, I believe I've read about it somewhere while I was doing some research. I thought they were showing a filament runout sensor for that printer in the head, but maybe it's not there. I think that could also be the Ender 3 V3 newest Ender (Metal frame) that has the runout sensor in the head.
@@NeedItMakeItYou might be right, that Ender V3 is amazing, it has an automatic belt tensioner so its almost maintenance free. That machine is incredibly solid for the price.
A friend very recently obtained a K1 C and it definitely has the run out sensor on the back.
Is it possible to root the K1 using a Mac. MobaXterm isn't available for the Mac.
There are other software options, I think someone in the comments asked the same question about a month ago, what you're looking for is SSH for MAC, you should be able to google it and find the equivalent.
Your Terminal app on your Mac is exactly that, maybe a bit simpler version. But it supports SSH connections natively.
I did not try this on my Mac (yet) but should be pretty much the same as on this video
Any way to set the ip address in orca? Mine always dissappear when I reboot my pc
That's not normal, it should keep it. You will probably need to reinstall Orca. I've never had to re-enter the IP because of it being empty. On occasion my printer's IP will change and I'll need to re-enter that.
@@NeedItMakeIt that worked thanks!
@@AaronMT09 Perfect, that was a bit of a strange one, I guess that file went missing. Glad you got it working!
Good lord I'm out of my element. Onn the first install it loads the script, but if I want to reload and access the main menu can someone help out and direct me how to do that?
Looks like the install helper is Gone. Getting a 404 error when trying to open the link
They keep updating the site and the links are changing, I've updated it again, please give it a try now.
I've just tried to follow your tutorial and can't seem to root my printer "ssh: connect to host ~~~.~~.~~~.~~~ port 22: Connection timed out"
It sounds like a connection problem, you can do the old restart, it seems to be related to the WIFI connection with the printer. It could also be the IP address. Sometimes the IP will change since they're not set as a static IP and this could be part of the problem in your case, it has happened to me on occasion.
@@NeedItMakeIt I see, so what do you suggest doing as without this problem being resolved I can’t root my printer and then level it as shown in your other videos
@@Rusa_Azavayl I'd go through the root process again, double check your IP address as well. If you can't SSH into your printer it's related to the IP/WIFI or whether you've accepted the conditions of Rooting on your printer. You're stalled until you can get that part sorted out. It should be fairly straight forward to sort out by ticking each of those things off of the list one at a time. You may also consider, disconnecting from your WIFI and then reconnecting and re-checking your IP address as well.
@@NeedItMakeIt I’ve made sure on the printer to enable rooting, I’ve checked the IP over and it matches the printers IP and my Phones IP, the wifi that I’m using is a student accommodation wifi network so maybe that’s part of the problem. It’s more than likely to do with my windows 11 instillation on my laptop itself though
I couldn't find the webuis to put my ip address.
You can simply type your printer's IP address into your search-bar, if you haven't rooted yet, it'll bring you to Creality's UI, if you have already, you'll need to add :4408 to the end of your IP address, or :4409 depending on which UI you prefer.
Let me know how it goes.
i guse the wiki you have linked says 404 not found trying to root my k1 max right now
They've changed the link slightly, I've updated it so it should work now.
@@NeedItMakeIt got it working and rooted thank you verry much now to get this k1 max running properly hopefully
I think this is the 3rd time I've had to re-link this page, thanks for the heads up and thanks for the update too!
@@NeedItMakeItno problem man thank you for keeping it up to date and thank you for the amazing content you have helped me alot with my k1 max
how do I unroot it?
You can google how to do a factory reset, I've done this a few times myself, there should be a few walkthroughs on that.
i press enter but dont get any message
I assume you're talking about when you've SSH'd in? If so, I'd restart your computer, mine was playing games like this as well.
Does this software work with a MAC ?
Do you mean MobaXterm?
Yes
Looks like No, but you can use this one which works for MAC. Tabby Terminal - tabby.sh/
Thank you!
The machine should already been rooted or have an option to do so with a press of a button. There's enough memory in the machine to do it. Ceality is just being dicks about things.
I agree, there is no reason that it couldn't be rooted from the beginning.
@@NeedItMakeIt I consider the k1 junk. The lideor sensor has no point. Except for getting in the way of taking the printhead apart. After replacing the extruder gear set and seeing how cheap the electrical connections are in the printhead. I was thinking to myself they know that this is going to have to be taken apart by the users eventually so let's make the electrical connections as small as f-ing possible.
I'm using a pei sheet for ender 3 Max neo. Which is 10 times better than a piece of crap that came with the machine. The small cheap shipping bolts , two were bent and one was completely broken off.
The suggested settings for material is like a 5-year-old just making up ship because he has no clue on what he's talking about.
The more I use it the more I keep thinking this piece of crap is better off on eBay.