Behind The Servants: Boudica and Zenobia

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  • @irish-italianintrovert.8600
    @irish-italianintrovert.8600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    I hope we get an Avenger Boudica in the future because she absolutely deserves it. Also hope Aurelian will be in the game and meets Zenobia again because that will definitely be interesting to watch. He doesn’t need to be a playable character but that would be awesome if he does. As a super history nerd great vid dude 👍🏻

    • @matheuskawata7841
      @matheuskawata7841 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Imagine Genderbend Aurelian dissing Zenobia as nothing more than an usurper and fake Empress

    • @irish-italianintrovert.8600
      @irish-italianintrovert.8600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@matheuskawata7841 Aurelian is summoned as a rider but he rides the chariot of Zenobia’s late husband to assert his dominance, then proceeds to flying around in it and constantly chant “PRAISE THE SUN !”

    • @Blayne06
      @Blayne06 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If memory serves, some of Boudica's lines imply that she could go Avenger, but that would cause her to become the vengeful queen she was immortalized as in history, and she actively wants to avoid such.

    • @Kuronosa
      @Kuronosa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope that Odenathus shows up...give his wife some support.

    • @pikaszablak7933
      @pikaszablak7933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I want Boudica Alter so much.

  • @no.notfromRDR
    @no.notfromRDR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I find weird that the Romans had the best military might in history but when they put it on movies is hundreds of thousands soldiers fighting a small village

    • @ReCursedy
      @ReCursedy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      When in video clearly stated the opposite. 1 to 10 proportions. That is realy interesting. Maybe it's bc people antagonize empires and romantisize rebels

  • @rosspendragon7783
    @rosspendragon7783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Don't know if you ever heard of an African queen named Amanirenas but her story is really interesting especially since she dealt with Caesar, I think she would make for a fun sister to pair up with these two

    • @irish-italianintrovert.8600
      @irish-italianintrovert.8600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I believe she was the Ethiopian Queen who had a little war with Caesar Augustus after a little border raid in Egypt. Correct me if I’m wrong.

    • @rosspendragon7783
      @rosspendragon7783 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah your right the conflict was over taxes and having romans in their lands

    • @ousamadearudesuwa
      @ousamadearudesuwa ปีที่แล้ว

      @@irish-italianintrovert.8600 no, she wasn't Ethiopian. She was a Kushite, a Nubian Queen and was well known to be the one challenging Rome Multiple times as well.

  • @JakeMatthews-OnLo
    @JakeMatthews-OnLo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Damn I hope Zenobia’s artist works on more servants, hopefully a male one. I loved his illustrations in the fgo ccc manga especially his Kiara and Emiya Alter pieces. He’s a god tier artist IMO. I remember retweeting his work and still being blown away when he made Zenobia.

    • @master_oogway1492
      @master_oogway1492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It would be thematic if he did Aurelian

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    6:12 I feel Boudica’s avenger self would have the same personality but whenever a Roman servant or say anything to do with Rome whenever she’s around she’d go mad as how Penthesilea is with Achilles

    • @Flutter_Akone
      @Flutter_Akone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Avenger Boudica chilling with Romulus (imposssible)

    • @asteriskonline3494
      @asteriskonline3494 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kinda like Taira Kagekiyo but for Rome instead of Genji.

  • @master_oogway1492
    @master_oogway1492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I love both of these characters, but I really want to see Aurelian as a playable servant, give, the praise the sun chad who was so powerful god nerfed him by killing him early.

  • @shuvodev7888
    @shuvodev7888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Often in historical account winners make losers army size look massive I think this is true for Boudica's story

  • @exudeku
    @exudeku 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Would wish to see Aurelian the Sun Chad (and potential best bro of a certain Gold Roman) and an Avenger Boudica

  • @rothern3761
    @rothern3761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Really giving the old historical cleanup to Zenobia arent' ah. The part you ignore regarding context of Zenobia's breakaway is the time period, the crisis of the third century, in which to many it seemed the empire was falling apart. To many, seeing a province be taken by a woman who only claim to power was being the wife of the former ruler(Who's titles were given due to his loyalty to rome and as such were seen as form him and noone else), later attacking and taking Egypt, one of the most important territories, critical from both an economic and food sense, all the while styling themselves as a flow blown monarch removed from rome's power was revolt plain and simple. By trying to foster a monarchy beyond the one of the emporers she was essentially trying to break with rome, and wanted to take some of their most valuable land and resources with them, of which they had ruled for more than 300 years by that point.

    • @durrangodsgrief6503
      @durrangodsgrief6503 ปีที่แล้ว

      She sexy woman so we ignore those parts

    • @ophelie2620
      @ophelie2620 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, is it a bad thing that you wanted to be independent from a crumbling empire who dgaf about you and your people? Should they let themselves be starved to death?

  • @leopeixoto1318
    @leopeixoto1318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wish one day we will have Aurelian as a 5* Rider, just to see him beat Zenobia again

  • @j_Snow
    @j_Snow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would like to see Boudica becoming an avenger and sharing her body with Andraste's spirit, like Taira and Ushi

  • @namoma4922
    @namoma4922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Empires are tipe for multiple type of stories. In media, most of the time the hero would be the underdog rebelling against an empire.
    On the other hand you can marvel at the drive, ambition and competence needed to go from an originally small territory(rome used to be only a very small village, and one pretty much bossed around by their neighboors at that. Alexander the Great original territory was of course way smaller than what it ended up being) to a giant one
    On the other other hand you can look at those who joined the pile of corpses in the process, and now the growth of the empire no longer is some rag to riches story but more of a bully crushing the underdog
    Back and forth again and again etc..

  • @boolonky1392
    @boolonky1392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Pretty hyped, have been looking forward to this one!

  • @YaraZapi
    @YaraZapi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Quick nitpick, Andraste wasn't the British Goddess of victory. She was the Celtic goddess of victory since she was also worshipped outside of what is modern-day UK in other Celtic realms such as Ireland as well :)

  • @rellsyk6358
    @rellsyk6358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wah! I just discovered this channel, what a great job you do, as an enthusiast of history and as a fan of fate, i certainly know I'll enjoy your content!

  • @no.notfromRDR
    @no.notfromRDR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been waiting for this video
    Thanks for also including your opinion

  • @ReCursedy
    @ReCursedy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice vid, very interesting and I love your chill atmosphere, comment for statistic and algorythm

  • @luizfelipevbf5567
    @luizfelipevbf5567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    -Somehow I missed this even with the bell on-
    Nice vid, some spotlight on them is appreciated, Boudica in particular given how little history we have on her (Not even her daughters' names).

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    15:50 and Fate take on Nero Claudius

  • @lordyubel9845
    @lordyubel9845 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great episode

  • @Vithor.G16
    @Vithor.G16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, man!

  • @mrs.paracelsus1
    @mrs.paracelsus1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A friend recommended me this and I have to agree as atm still design my own take on Boudica avenger

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That some Bootiful choices you made in this video lol

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    15:33 yeah anime always got me to know that misunderstanding from people idiotic reaction would screwed them over especially in drama type series

  • @Slvrwlf
    @Slvrwlf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Old Klidge model

  • @lord_boneman
    @lord_boneman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As always, an interesting vid that taught me about figures I’ve only heard from Fate/GO. And while completely unrelated, any chance there will be something on Babbage in the future?

    • @klidge
      @klidge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m the future, yes absolutely

    • @toyaleejb7714
      @toyaleejb7714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@klidge Oh I know nothing about Charles Babbage

  • @gravityhero2227
    @gravityhero2227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After Avenger Boudica i want Avenger Medea.

  • @evanolsen6925
    @evanolsen6925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IDEA! Ranking the welfares could be fun!

  • @lilsmurfy8349
    @lilsmurfy8349 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    have to give these two credit for taking a stand against Rome even when they both failed in trying to succeed

  • @minu-chan6826
    @minu-chan6826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Klidge
    I wonder if you will do a video on vlad III?

  • @punmaster247
    @punmaster247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Heya once more quick note the book of revelations wasn't written as anti roman propaganda. the book or Revelations serves as the book of the Bible that discusses what is to occur in the time of when Jesus Christ is to return to earth. While many things can refer to the time present in the book of revelations not everything refers to that specific point in time within the book. Besides if it was written out of spite then it would have been more blatant about it.

    • @shulkash8799
      @shulkash8799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The book of revelation is anti world, but since Roman ruled most of the known world then I can see it have a bit of anti Roman sentiment. Although its funny that Nero freed the apostle Paul when he went to Rome as a prisoner.

    • @punmaster247
      @punmaster247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shulkash8799 perhaps that's how it can be taken as but that wasn't the biggest picture with the boom of revelations however it was indeed funny to say the least but ironic with what happens later thanks to Nero

    • @FirstLast-hd4oe
      @FirstLast-hd4oe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct it is nothing to do with Nero just everything to do with persecution nero persecuted many people hints the resemblance

    • @shulkash8799
      @shulkash8799 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FirstLast-hd4oe Nero was a crazed, in the sense that he did lots of bizarre things and had incontrovertible ambition to control the government, ruler, that made lots of enemies, which would affect how future generations saw him, and being after emperor after Caligula didn’t help matters.

    • @punmaster247
      @punmaster247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toyaleejb7714 why I could guess why Nero was brought up here so much is because of his impact her caused however he isn't the sole emperor who did damage that could span then entire timeframe of the empire if we were to go there

  • @nillynush4899
    @nillynush4899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the latin pronunciation of Tacitus.

  • @zecond-js1yc
    @zecond-js1yc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked this video

  • @aredjayc2858
    @aredjayc2858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want Avenger Boudica a lot, given her usual defensive leaning and a taunt she could use the avenger passive to spam her NP.
    I should point out that the Queen of Sheba was likely from Ethiopia not Arabia, so her being connected to Zenobia is highly unlikely

  • @FirstLast-hd4oe
    @FirstLast-hd4oe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh btw why is zenoboa a archer independent action bur did she use a bow or ballista in live

  • @simonschnedl
    @simonschnedl ปีที่แล้ว

    Get them some clothes!

  • @ophelie2620
    @ophelie2620 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Romans when the provinces that they not gaf about rebels because they don’t like to starve and being mistreated: :o

  • @MrSergore
    @MrSergore 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paulinus and especially Aurelian servants when?

  • @RagnaCloud13
    @RagnaCloud13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some underrated Tanukhid queen named Mavia be like:
    Bunch of losers with fanservice. No wonder Ritsuka Fujimaru breed these two big time.

  • @abs305
    @abs305 ปีที่แล้ว

    for boudica's story you forgot about catus decianus

  • @elenazopes8665
    @elenazopes8665 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ganesha/Jinako when?

  • @nobodyhimself1643
    @nobodyhimself1643 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is your latest new model XD

  • @unrankedchevron742
    @unrankedchevron742 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there such a thing as a non-conquering empire?

    • @nouveauscripter1718
      @nouveauscripter1718 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not that I can think of, but theoretically you could have a coalition of states/kingdoms voluntarily joining together. A probable catalyst for this would be an encroaching empire.

  • @Astavyastataa
    @Astavyastataa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Boudicca Mommy 🥰

  • @durrangodsgrief6503
    @durrangodsgrief6503 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah nah I disagree if Zenobia wanted what was best for her people she would have done not one of the expansionist actions like taking Egypt or printing her face on the coin and acting as if she and her child were Royalty and done like odenathus being loyal instead she allowed ambition to get to her and lost it all

  • @josephcruz5902
    @josephcruz5902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Okay

  • @nhazulkimonalos9895
    @nhazulkimonalos9895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing vid to an amazing waifu

  • @Kuronosa
    @Kuronosa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hearing you pronounce Zenobia's husband's name hurts my ears...

  • @MoonlightReaper14
    @MoonlightReaper14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Boudica is my favorite rider (waifu wise) in fgo and I am the PROUD owner of a lvl 100 boudica. Not many people may use her or like her but I will ALWAYS give my Boudica love because she's so fucking beautiful and she's the queen of victory

  • @FirstLast-hd4oe
    @FirstLast-hd4oe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But seriously revelations is anti-universe not anti-roman Rome just happened to be there at that time but you can apply it to modern or future times easier if you me

  • @spencergreen9415
    @spencergreen9415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first

  • @josephwilliams9030
    @josephwilliams9030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I'm really sorry but.
    Boudica: fear not men, for god is on our side. The resolve of this woman shall see this through. Flee if you wish but we shall win.
    Gaius Suetonius Paulinus: I going to do what's called a pro gamer move.

    • @namoma4922
      @namoma4922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I mean as much as i empathize with them, he indeed did a good job(militarily)
      Being severely outnumbered and pulling off an uncontestable win is no small feat

    • @DogseatDogs
      @DogseatDogs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gaius, the better Rider than Boudica.