Please never feel pressured to rush your videos. Your quality is worth waiting for. If we have to wait till you have the test unit available to ride in Mumbai. That's perfectly fine.
I bought mine mid-April (it's my first bike), and to summarize my experience in one sentence, this bike is more Bruce Wayne than Tony Stark. Confident, competent and yet... so calm and composed. Full of personality. It's in no hurry to show you what it can do, and I love that about it (I felt that the other KTM's have that "pick me" energy, and I don't really like that). Shumi got a lot of points right, but my honest opinion is that the bike is ABSOLUTELY PERFECT for the beginner/intermediate defensive rider. It downplays it's abilities on normal days, but once things get serious, it doesn't hesitate to go all out. Some might mistake this bike to be sluggish, but don't get disillusioned folks! Find an open road, rev past 8k rpm, the experience is plain exhilarating. The up and down Quickshifter+ is the cherry on top. I also really like the way it looks. Just wish it had those ring light drls that the svartpilen had. Felt like KTM-Bajaj are deliberately downgrading it to say "THIS IS NOT A FLAGSHIP", and that's a bit annoying. Maybe I am really romanticizing it, but man do I love my "Chillpilen 250". I saved up and bought the all access membership to thank both of you gentlemen and the Motorinc team for introducing me to the world of motorcycling. ATGATT, peace!!
I am 41 and have no plans on buying a bike.Also, I drive the Tata Safari automatic 🙂 - I will still watch all the MotorInc videos, the calmness and fun put together makes me work efficiently. Love it❤ MotorInc is meditation for me!
I have bought the vitpilen 250 and it is really a chill bike, I like the vibe and can go zoom on command, vibration after 8000 rpm is there. Overall a head turner and a nice chillpilen.
Chai Racer is already a thing, Shumi just coined the term! Great video team, what would you highlight to be the difference between this and the Speed 400? Given both have a laid back sort of manner about themselves?
Yes both feel pretty relaxed. The Speed 400 is more comfortable around the city, the Vitpilen's suspension's slightly better at highway speeds. Speed 400 is smooth to about 105kmph after which it complains and refinement drops. Vitpilen is never fully smooth but the experience is consistent and post 120-ish you'll feel some vibration starting out.
Ok so I don’t wanna sound like an ass but I feel like Shumi sometimes interrupts Kartikeya when he’s going a lil off topic or joking about something and if this is your dynamic to play good cop bad cop or something and try to stick to the format then by all means please go ahead. I’m just saying that if you guys go a lil bit off track and joke around and banter a little more, I think it’ll be fine and maybe a lot more people will appreciate it. Again, you guys are experienced so don’t want this to sound like a complaint or anything. Thanks for the great content as always.
Also just give credit where it is due, I haven’t seen a lot of car first impressions but from the one or two i have watched, I can see Shumi is listening a lot more and supporting when Kartikeya is talking because he seems to be the expert on cars.
1. Chai racing is a thing because we have more of Chai culture than Coffee. I have seen people going from Mumbai to Ahura (Dahanu) just to have tea and bun maska. So, Chai racer can actually be a thing... 😂😂😂 BTW, Very Good review! ❤
I have no plans of ever buying a bike but here I am listening to these two. You dudes could be talking about paint drying and I guess you’d still manage to make it irresistibly engaging - thank you for the content!!
Thanks for a very enjoyable discussion. I drive by a KTM dealership on my evening commute. Most of the time i see customers testing different KTM bikes. The husqverna bikes are a very rare sight outside of the display stand. I sometimes feel that the proximity to the KTM does not allow the Husqvarna brand achieve a distinctive identity.
Finally Looks like an overall good product from Sweden. Good to see the standards of Motorcycling are increasing and Europeans are playing a major role in this revolution. An awesome discussion by you both 💯
I bought this one on yesterday over the speed 400… I loved the machine refinement Feet and finish Exhaust sound Electronics Style I have used pulsar 220 almost 13 year then I am going with this.. Simple word is, it’s not an ordinary /boaring bike it’s a special lifestyle bike..
Had a test ride of the Husqvarna 250 last week. I am in the market for a 250 motorcycle, because I want the balance of contained performance and financial efficiency. And after VStrom 250, KTM 250, KTM Adv 250 and Honda CB200X, I found the Vitpilen an absolute breath of fresh air. So much so, I don't really care about anything but the vibe of this motorcycle. It's like love at first sight. If it clicks, it clicks. If it doesn't you won't turn around to see this bike again. But if you click, brother, you're going to walk down the aisle for sure. I am just mustering up the courage to commit now. Fingers crossed.
Quick summary was so fun to hear, "chillpilen" what a great funky name. Also I noticed Shumi using US slangs like " After 200 kms you gonna need GAS" rather than using Petrol which was something I heard first time in indian motoring scene lol. --->I had some quick question to ask abt my first motorcycle which I am going to buy and I think shumi might add something to that discussion.{also I am upgrading from activa 3g which has 8bhp and 8nm of power figure} -->For my first bike I have thaught of 2 bikes for myself: 1st is xpulse 2004v and 2nd is dominar 250.I am thinking of doing long trips to other state(if my parents agree) for my masters. or else I will be using it most of the time in city ->I want xpulse because I like enduro bikes, its in my budget and I want to buy it because I want to learn to ride tall bikes. ->I want dominar because I love the looks of it, it will give some amount of thrill to me and I want to learn how to handle heavy bikes in traffic and all. >Are there any other bikes around 2.5 lakhs price with manage able power which I should consider or wait to buy till the end of the year? >Also I heard from the motorinc's "first bike" podcast that you should go step wise to upgrade your riding skills, So I don't want to jump from 8bhp to likes of 30ish or 40ish bhp line. I want to experience the middle lane like 20ish bhps.
Hey Meet! We don't recommend the Dominars at all. We'd suggest you re-look at the list and consider everything within your budget up to a max of 30-35bhp. Test ride as many as you can and ping? The Xpulse sounds like a good idea. Be sure to check forums for ownership reviews. The Hero ownership experience isn't quite as straightforward. And do check online for the Xpulse 210 - it might not be too far away
35mins for a Motorinc First video just doesn’t cut it. It needs to be at least 40 mins and above. That’s how much I enjoy watching you guys speak about cars and motorcycles 😅 In the future do you guys have any plans of making videos on let’s say Ninja 650 or Trident 660 or even about your personal cars and/or bikes you guys have owned in the past or currently? Really looking forward to your future videos regardless. Lots of love to both of you guys and the entire Motorinc team. ❤
I bought a svart sometime back. It's a good bike, not as aggressive as a 390 sure but it has character. The only mental agony I have is the tubeless tyres, which the showroom doing nothing about unfortunately.
I recently owned this bike ,I use to own R15v3 past 5 years . The R15 was very committed and was not so practical as my parents facing problem in pillion seat . So felt need to upgrade for better practicality and pillon comfort .I have driven the RE classic but didn’t find it exciting over 80 kh/hr . And So on gone through all bike in this segment and price range . And finally bought the chillpilen 250✌️. "People reaction: is it An EV or CNG". so looks are subjective, I’m not fully convinced with the design(drl is a miss) but can live with it . These days finding character in a motorcycle is getting tough but this bike have it own vibe. It’s smoother than duke but doesn’t lag behind . Also my parents really like it because of its practicality and pillion comfort .And it’s easy to manage and pocket friendly ,although the pricing felt little expensive but not much of a deal breaker(on road:2.60lac). Unlike ktm duke this bike will earn you some respect in society .Highly recommended for beginners. Key features it gets 1.ride by wire 2.quick shifter + 3.slipper and assist clutch Thank you Motorinc for this review
As much as I love these impressions, hearing your thoughts on bigger machines would also be so much fun! The Desert X part just leaves me longing for a little bit super bike content occasionally 😁
Shumi & Kartik. You guys make bike riding so interesting that car driving 5:23 nuts like me ( I’ve stopped biking since 2008) almost feel compelled to get back.😍
I would rather wait around for your reviews even if it's late cause that means the vehicle will be thoroughly tested on the roads as wells and we will get to see the real world issues or advantages. That makes spending our hard-earned money (which is depreciating fast) worth the spend. Never feel rushed. We appreciate what you do here.
I feel I may be one among those few guys who loved the design of the 1st gen Husquies. The design was radical and quirky. The only reason why I didn't get the cafe racer was because it was not available in 400 cc back then. Iam not a big fan of the reworked design. But i feel more people will like this.
This genre of a fireside chat about bikes is so fantastic. Time flies just listening to the two of you. The skewed pricing of the 400cc segment vs the 250 segment is going to be a major disruptor, if it is not already.
Something interesting would be if Kartikeya also takes rides and talks about what the bike was for him as well. One thing I notice about my style of riding is, I'm pretty much on board with Schumi. I find riding my Xpulse on the road boring and find my Duke 390 more interesting. I took a test ride of the RS457 and I wasn't exactly thrilled about it. I was enjoying it, but it didn't excite me because I felt like my duke had a more murderous aura to it that suited my flavour. So for me, when I talk to people about bikes, it's always the ones that are more aggressive that I navigate towards. So imagining someone who's into the "calmer" side also be side by side talking about the same bike would be a good picture to paint.
Hi Motorinc, hope you both are doing well. I am confused between N160, MT15 and RTR 200 4v. Which one should I buy? Need for local commute and good mileage. Please suggest.
The fact that the riding position is not as sporty as before is a bummer. I LOVED the earlier Vitpilen's riding position..... And don't worry about delaying your vids. Schumi's take is worth the wait!!! (I'm typing this slogan for the third time tonight!!! 😉😉)
I got his bike... my first bike... so it's well under control for a new rider. Abs works lik.charm.... the tyre width is so good for the ride... I changed the handle to adventure 250 handle bcos I'm bit taller... only issue I faced was..no aftermarket or company accessories available... had to alter another grab handle for add luggage rack at the back...
The reason why older models had smaller tank, is because it made you stop for refuels, giving the engine some breathing time to cool down and then get going. It really makes a difference when you stop for 10 mins to the engine. The newer engine is SOHC setup, less complex, thus could do more functionally and practically. Everything is done in some rational design and process.
Had the opportunity to ride the “Chillpilen 250” and I agree with Shumi’s views on this bike. There’s a sense of real calmness in this bike, something that I’m not used to coming from a Dominar 400 which is quite calm to begin with 😅 but I’ve always considered Husqvarnas to be a lifestyle choice rather than a performance choice like the KTMs.
Absolutely loved the review. Was waiting for this past six months... Finally bought the Vit few days before this video... Love riding this bike ... Very important points brought out in this video, specially the comparison with other similar priced bikes.... One thing bothering me is should this get heated up so much that i feel the heat radiation on my thighs and face in just four km of city ride from home to office... ?? Any owner feedback on heating issue..?
Thank you so much for your amazing content! This is my first time commenting on your video, but I’ve been a fan of Sumi since the PD days. While the content on this channel is incredibly rich, I would love to see more information on the RTO scenario in India. It would be really helpful to learn about the dos and don’ts of buying and selling a vehicle, as well as tips on navigating the RTO website. Thank you for considering my suggestion, and keep up the fantastic work!
Love watching these thoroughly discussed video around a single vehicle. We get insights about intricate details. I myself am going to start riding regularly soon, after consuming thousands of videos and waiting almost 2 years, I have chosen a bike for myself. Recently opened Triumph showroom in our city made me take a look at what they had to offer, I have gone with Trident 660, ofcourse I know it's very powerful to own as a first bike. But I am happy with it as my choice, I much rather choose a bar bike on my own than a good bike someone else would've chosen for me, after all it's me who is going to experience it. Loved the whistle, loved the fit and finish, abs tc and riding modes and really good tires. I will end up doing 600 and 200 kilometres long rides as well and that bike was so comfortable when I sat on it. I am a calm person when it comes to driving or riding. I am 5'11 so seems good enough size for me not too big as well. Considering I definitely won't be buying a bike for atleast 4-5 years, I am happy with my descision. (heated grips considering I am from J&K is a also a great feature I won't get frostbite during winters haha) Over the months I have posted many comments ranging from Zx4R to Z650 to Cb300r and my confusion has finally come to a conclusion. Patiently waiting for the delivery now 😄
Hey MotorInc, this is a question towards Shumi. I'm upgrading from unicorn which makes arround 12bhp. I like a little bit of off-roading since my unicorn doesn't have abs, it's fun to slide the back wheel haha but i recently rode R15 which helped me appreciate how beautiful the commited nature feels like. Cutting the cake, if i were to buy a 25bhp motorcycle, ironically in the same price bracket we have vehicles with 40bhp. Looking at Duke 250, we have 400Z as well as 400X almost in the same ballpark It's true that 390 duke might be out of my reach as of now but if we were to look at Swartpilen 401 or even Himalayan it's kinda close to the price bracket as well both around 40bhp. It would be helpful if you can point out which of these 40bhps are actually like a 25bhp in terms of headroom and which of these are in the territory which has a headroom of 50bhp+ class. Really appreciate your response, I'm willing to wait for a proper one from you guys. Take your time. I would also love to put forward the idea that classifying motorcycles in terms of headroom in each category would make a good video :')
11:29 that grabrail is a consequence of customer feedback - “my pilion feels like they’ll fall off every time I accelerate 🤦🏻♂️” Seriously, if you’re riding pilion, don’t be a dead weight. Help the rider out, it’s fun for both people.
Here in Germany, having something to grab for the passenger is mandated by law. Hence the handle/spoiler thing. They probably just put it on every bike because it's easier to manufacture, even if it's not required.
The Vitpilen 250 vs bajaj NS200Z/Hero Mavrick 440 conversation is what i have between the BMW 310GS and the Triumph scrambler 400X for the past 6 months.
Guys idgaf what you guys are saying I'm booking one this week itself tested it yesterday and i absolutely loved it .the thing is an absolute value for money 😤
I have duke 250 for more than 2 years now and it still scares me with it's pace and traffic alertness I need to have, you guys saying it is calm 😂 clearly another level of riding you have reached.. my style is just 90-100 touring speeds and much lower if back roads and a little bit of off-roading and I feel completely satisfied with D250..
After riding the Himalayan, Scrambler 400x and Honda CB350, I think the Scrambler is a better choice even though I am 55kgs and 5.4 and I want to learn how to ride a tall bike. I will be mostly riding it for the office commute (35kms) daily in Bangalore traffic and weeknd ride and learn riding a big bike. My worry is: 1. The tank range with 24kmpl with 13lts tank in the Scrambler. 2. Height since sometimes I feel am I too optimistic about learning to ride a talk bike? 😏 Upgrading for a Yamaha FZ version 4 bought 7 months back and gifting it to my uncle since its now boring for me apart from the mileage. My uncle is upgrating from 24yrs old Kawasaki Boxer 😂
Hi @abhishekkhanra5137, thanks for sharing. 1. This is definitely a concern with these engines but currently there isn't a solution we can offer you. 2. This, on the other hand, is a matter of practice and something you can definitely get used to. We wouldn't use this as a reason to rethink your decision. Excellent! We're always up for using motorcycles for all that they have to offer! Who's your uncle giving his KB Boxer to? 😅
@motorinc Thanks for answering. Will be buying Scrambler 400x coming week. Full Cash is Ready!! 😏 My uncle won't give the Kawasaki Boxer to anyone. I remember he used to take me for awesome rides before I turned 10. 😅 Too much emotions!! Still clocks around 90 in the highways 😂
Nice video, guys! Very informative. I'm looking to purchase my first bike soon, and torn among this, KTM Duke 250 and Triumph Speed 400. I’m gravitating most toward Husky. Which one would you guys recommend?
All three are similar in at least one way @HermeticAscetic22, they are calm and composed machines but to varying degrees. We'd suggest test riding all of them, ideally on the same day, to know which degree you prefer the most.
The point made in 400s section resonated with my dilemma of picking a 250 or 400. While I've test ridden 400x, 401, H452, G310 GS I've also ridden the D250, Vitpilen, V-Strom 250. I thought I'll get the 401 and that'd be it But the Pirelli thing and showroom staff not interested enough for the brand put me off. Finally I've shortlisted: V-Strom 250 (Lightweight, simple, touring format, better FE and range) and 400x (Much better suspensions, more power and torque, a more aspirational brand) Which of these two would you suggest for daily commute, no off-roading, and once a month tour ~700kms? Both fits my usage perfectly. With VS250 I'll have to deal with stiff suspensions. With 400x I'll have to deal with wind blast and weak lights. Price difference being 70k currently both providing discounts.
Sounds like my dilemma. I am looking at the same options for the same reasons. The Vstrom 250 is a bit out of date and I keep wondering if a facelift is around the corner.
@@aceleon6237 It’s only been 2 years since VS250 has been launched so I highly doubt a facelift is coming soon. Even if they do it’ll be a new color scheme or sticker job at max nothing major
Hey @bhrameshvaria and @aceleon6237! If you're not a completely new rider, we'd suggest you pick the larger engine. It'll feel better in all conditions, and the 400X is quite a bit more comfy than the VSX250
guys, precisely at 8:40, that's Kartikeya expression summing up working with Shumi. Oh, what a time to give a Galaxy watch with a wide bezel reference! I would call that a Samsung Galaxy Watch Ultra or something like that.
Should i go for RC200 or vitpilen 250 ? The price difference is 35k.i always wanted to buy one track machine because I've been watching moto GP since my childhood as well the cockpit looks dope on RC series.
Can we have episode explaining the tyre to machine connection … I mean how to choose one depending on you riding style also how to take care and symptoms when your tyre goes bad.
So I’m not sure but apparently there seems to be internal talks going on in TVS to bring their newly acquired British brand Norton Motorcycles to India. Now why this is interesting is that the portfolio of Norton is basically expertise in litre class motorcycles, which they could trickle down to 500cc with manufacturing in India to reduce costs and price could be a real game changer. And yes, I could very much wrong on this too, but I’m gonna keeps the hopes high
Took 4 test drives and I was convinced this was it and almost booked Vitpilen, took a test drive of Speed 400 and was sold for it🫣 riding the speed happily now😅
I wanted to understand from you fine gentlemen, why you don’t cover more expensive higher range bikes? I would love to get your take on the Kawasaki versys 650 2024 and the honda transalp 750. Do you have any plans to do these?
Contemplating getting back to riding almost after 20-22yrs. Looking for a city bike ( occasionally inter city rides) with pillion comfort. Was looking at TVS Ronin, Jawa 42FJ. What would you suggest? Need not be within the two mentioned. Thanks. Btw love your content
*Chapters*
00:00 Delayed Again?
01:25 250 Duke's Cousin
02:00 Not a Cafe Racer
03:15 The Calm 250
05:28 Your First Bike?
06:21 Refinement
06:58 Quality & Finish
09:08 Larger & Comfortable
08:37 Highway Ready
10:47 Aerodynamics
11:33 Lower Seat Height
12:44 White Looks Great
13:03 Odd Details
14:17 Tyres
15:47 Corners
17:15 Subtle & Neutral
17:33 Can You Tour?
18:37 Comfort Levels
19:40 Pricing & the 400s
22:30 In the City
22:14 Instruments
24:15 Laid Back
25:57 Is KTM India Serious
28:46 Quick Summary
32:00 What Happens Next?
34:30 Closing Comments
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Thanks 😊😊
Very much needed video...
I just asked you guys for it....❤️
Infinity… test ride out in the wild….
Hey show me I wanted to ask is x95 petrol is enough for 390 or not
So if they launch a bobber it will be Husqvarna Nopilen.
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Wow that made me crack up well🤣
Hilarious
Wow 😂
Please never feel pressured to rush your videos. Your quality is worth waiting for. If we have to wait till you have the test unit available to ride in Mumbai. That's perfectly fine.
Thank you @viralengine908.
Agreed
I bought mine mid-April (it's my first bike), and to summarize my experience in one sentence, this bike is more Bruce Wayne than Tony Stark. Confident, competent and yet... so calm and composed. Full of personality. It's in no hurry to show you what it can do, and I love that about it (I felt that the other KTM's have that "pick me" energy, and I don't really like that).
Shumi got a lot of points right, but my honest opinion is that the bike is ABSOLUTELY PERFECT for the beginner/intermediate defensive rider. It downplays it's abilities on normal days, but once things get serious, it doesn't hesitate to go all out. Some might mistake this bike to be sluggish, but don't get disillusioned folks! Find an open road, rev past 8k rpm, the experience is plain exhilarating. The up and down Quickshifter+ is the cherry on top. I also really like the way it looks. Just wish it had those ring light drls that the svartpilen had. Felt like KTM-Bajaj are deliberately downgrading it to say "THIS IS NOT A FLAGSHIP", and that's a bit annoying.
Maybe I am really romanticizing it, but man do I love my "Chillpilen 250". I saved up and bought the all access membership to thank both of you gentlemen and the Motorinc team for introducing me to the world of motorcycling. ATGATT, peace!!
Glad to hear that @chintanpe2912! Thank you for sharing.
@@motorinc You're welcome! ❤
As an owner I completely agree
Yup definitely agree 💯
I was wondering is it a hassle to replace Vitpilen's headlight with Svartpilen's? Why not replace it? :3
I am 41 and have no plans on buying a bike.Also, I drive the Tata Safari automatic 🙂 - I will still watch all the MotorInc videos, the calmness and fun put together makes me work efficiently. Love it❤
MotorInc is meditation for me!
Thank you very much @OldSkoolFauji.
He means it helps him go to sleep… 😂
15:23 Kartik's face says it all 🤣 loved the discussion man ❤️
Nice catch man.... Nice catch 😂
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lol u got a good eye bro😂
I have bought the vitpilen 250 and it is really a chill bike, I like the vibe and can go zoom on command, vibration after 8000 rpm is there.
Overall a head turner and a nice chillpilen.
Glad to hear from an owner @qweasad5423.
Chai Racer is already a thing, Shumi just coined the term! Great video team, what would you highlight to be the difference between this and the Speed 400? Given both have a laid back sort of manner about themselves?
Yes both feel pretty relaxed. The Speed 400 is more comfortable around the city, the Vitpilen's suspension's slightly better at highway speeds. Speed 400 is smooth to about 105kmph after which it complains and refinement drops. Vitpilen is never fully smooth but the experience is consistent and post 120-ish you'll feel some vibration starting out.
Ok so I don’t wanna sound like an ass but I feel like Shumi sometimes interrupts Kartikeya when he’s going a lil off topic or joking about something and if this is your dynamic to play good cop bad cop or something and try to stick to the format then by all means please go ahead. I’m just saying that if you guys go a lil bit off track and joke around and banter a little more, I think it’ll be fine and maybe a lot more people will appreciate it. Again, you guys are experienced so don’t want this to sound like a complaint or anything. Thanks for the great content as always.
Also just give credit where it is due, I haven’t seen a lot of car first impressions but from the one or two i have watched, I can see Shumi is listening a lot more and supporting when Kartikeya is talking because he seems to be the expert on cars.
Thanks for the feedback @_Adv8_!
1. Chai racing is a thing because we have more of Chai culture than Coffee. I have seen people going from Mumbai to Ahura (Dahanu) just to have tea and bun maska. So, Chai racer can actually be a thing... 😂😂😂
BTW, Very Good review! ❤
We're not turning down a ride, most of the time, but for tea and bun maska? That's real adventurous @Unaad_Sam!😧
Wait until the west discovers Chai Tea Racers 😂
@@DevilAlpacca That's a multi layered pun you got there 😂
or Kachori chai Racers here in rajasthan going 100-200 km just to have kachori and tea
I have no plans of ever buying a bike but here I am listening to these two. You dudes could be talking about paint drying and I guess you’d still manage to make it irresistibly engaging - thank you for the content!!
Thank you for joining us @RahulBasu6886.
Thanks for a very enjoyable discussion. I drive by a KTM dealership on my evening commute. Most of the time i see customers testing different KTM bikes. The husqverna bikes are a very rare sight outside of the display stand.
I sometimes feel that the proximity to the KTM does not allow the Husqvarna brand achieve a distinctive identity.
We're inclined to agree @shailesshs9750!
Finally Looks like an overall good product from Sweden. Good to see the standards of Motorcycling are increasing and Europeans are playing a major role in this revolution. An awesome discussion by you both 💯
Thanks for joining us @Peeyush_1010!
15:22 I see what you're smiling/smirking about Kartikeya!!! 😁😁😁
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I bought this one on yesterday over the speed 400…
I loved the machine refinement
Feet and finish
Exhaust sound
Electronics
Style
I have used pulsar 220 almost 13 year then I am going with this..
Simple word is, it’s not an ordinary /boaring bike it’s a special lifestyle bike..
Congratulations @goldpeace8643! Thanks for sharing. Do let us know how you like it once you ride it more.
@@motorinc yes definitely
@@goldpeace8463 it's been 3 months, share insights bro
8:44 love the dark humour
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Had a test ride of the Husqvarna 250 last week. I am in the market for a 250 motorcycle, because I want the balance of contained performance and financial efficiency. And after VStrom 250, KTM 250, KTM Adv 250 and Honda CB200X, I found the Vitpilen an absolute breath of fresh air. So much so, I don't really care about anything but the vibe of this motorcycle. It's like love at first sight. If it clicks, it clicks. If it doesn't you won't turn around to see this bike again. But if you click, brother, you're going to walk down the aisle for sure. I am just mustering up the courage to commit now. Fingers crossed.
Sounds like you found the right motorcycle for you @rachitbgupta! All the best, let us know how this goes.
I was riding with pillion on 3rd gear at 25km/h to 27km /h. I was damn impressed
Same feeling here bro
Shumi: I am going pretty quickly on the wet now....
Kartik's head turns with a smirk!
That smirk made me realise the nasty.
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Quick summary was so fun to hear, "chillpilen" what a great funky name.
Also I noticed Shumi using US slangs like " After 200 kms you gonna need GAS" rather than using Petrol which was something I heard first time in indian motoring scene lol.
--->I had some quick question to ask abt my first motorcycle which I am going to buy and I think shumi might add something to that discussion.{also I am upgrading from activa 3g which has 8bhp and 8nm of power figure}
-->For my first bike I have thaught of 2 bikes for myself: 1st is xpulse 2004v and 2nd is dominar 250.I am thinking of doing long trips to other state(if my parents agree) for my masters. or else I will be using it most of the time in city
->I want xpulse because I like enduro bikes, its in my budget and I want to buy it because I want to learn to ride tall bikes.
->I want dominar because I love the looks of it, it will give some amount of thrill to me and I want to learn how to handle heavy bikes in traffic and all.
>Are there any other bikes around 2.5 lakhs price with manage able power which I should consider or wait to buy till the end of the year?
>Also I heard from the motorinc's "first bike" podcast that you should go step wise to upgrade your riding skills, So I don't want to jump from 8bhp to likes of 30ish or 40ish bhp line. I want to experience the middle lane like 20ish bhps.
Hey Meet! We don't recommend the Dominars at all. We'd suggest you re-look at the list and consider everything within your budget up to a max of 30-35bhp. Test ride as many as you can and ping?
The Xpulse sounds like a good idea. Be sure to check forums for ownership reviews. The Hero ownership experience isn't quite as straightforward. And do check online for the Xpulse 210 - it might not be too far away
35mins for a Motorinc First video just doesn’t cut it. It needs to be at least 40 mins and above. That’s how much I enjoy watching you guys speak about cars and motorcycles 😅
In the future do you guys have any plans of making videos on let’s say Ninja 650 or Trident 660 or even about your personal cars and/or bikes you guys have owned in the past or currently? Really looking forward to your future videos regardless.
Lots of love to both of you guys and the entire Motorinc team. ❤
Thank you for joining us @yudhajit07! And for the suggestions... 😊
"Ive been going quickly in the wet"
K: 👀
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Shumi's communication is just spot on. Never got bored, whoooossh 35 min video passed by.
Thank you Suman.
I love the subtle dark humor and the tug of war here.. just so so enjoyable.
Thank you @CJ3B1
I bought a svart sometime back. It's a good bike, not as aggressive as a 390 sure but it has character. The only mental agony I have is the tubeless tyres, which the showroom doing nothing about unfortunately.
Congratulations Vibhu!!
Yup. Spot on!
you can get the vitpilen tyres for it though right?
What about those tubeless conversations with sealants? Are those any good?
I recently owned this bike ,I use to own R15v3 past 5 years . The R15 was very committed and was not so practical as my parents facing problem in pillion seat . So felt need to upgrade for better practicality and pillon comfort .I have driven the RE classic but didn’t find it exciting over 80 kh/hr .
And So on gone through all bike in this segment and price range . And finally bought the chillpilen 250✌️. "People reaction: is it An EV or CNG". so looks are subjective, I’m not fully convinced with the design(drl is a miss) but can live with it .
These days finding character in a motorcycle is getting tough but this bike have it own vibe. It’s smoother than duke but doesn’t lag behind . Also my parents really like it because of its practicality and pillion comfort .And it’s easy to manage and pocket friendly ,although the pricing felt little expensive but not much of a deal breaker(on road:2.60lac). Unlike ktm duke this bike will earn you some respect in society .Highly recommended for beginners.
Key features it gets
1.ride by wire
2.quick shifter +
3.slipper and assist clutch
Thank you Motorinc for this review
Awesome @idream3903. Thanks for sharing!
As much as I love these impressions, hearing your thoughts on bigger machines would also be so much fun!
The Desert X part just leaves me longing for a little bit super bike content occasionally 😁
Suggestion noted!
I would wait 6 months if I have to, to watch your video with a genuine and full review. There is no hurry when it comes to quality.
Thank you @shauryapathak310!
Shumi & Kartik. You guys make bike riding so interesting that car driving 5:23 nuts like me ( I’ve stopped biking since 2008) almost feel compelled to get back.😍
Thank you for joining us @octavian2667!
@@octavian2667 I agree. These guys made me realise what I have been missing. About to book a new one 😁
For the first time I find Shumi at a loss for words. The exasperation is making me sad.
🤜🏽🤛🏽
What happened to him
I would rather wait around for your reviews even if it's late cause that means the vehicle will be thoroughly tested on the roads as wells and we will get to see the real world issues or advantages. That makes spending our hard-earned money (which is depreciating fast) worth the spend. Never feel rushed. We appreciate what you do here.
Thank you @asitkhanda! Appreciate it.
I feel I may be one among those few guys who loved the design of the 1st gen Husquies. The design was radical and quirky. The only reason why I didn't get the cafe racer was because it was not available in 400 cc back then. Iam not a big fan of the reworked design. But i feel more people will like this.
This one’s more practical for india.
Hey @bondof69! Others have echoed this sentiment too! Fully agree on the previous ones coming as 400s would have changed things
I have been using this bike for the past 6 months. I always love to ride my husky🤍. For me it’s an awesome bike and really underrated.
Glad to hear that @_ROCKY_OP! Thanks for sharing.
Hey man. Can you please tell me about servicing charge?
@@vinayakpujari3613 first service cost was around 1600
Hasqvarna engineers, when you try to talk to them about pillions: Whatpillion?.... Boys, we got ourselves a model name!
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This genre of a fireside chat about bikes is so fantastic. Time flies just listening to the two of you.
The skewed pricing of the 400cc segment vs the 250 segment is going to be a major disruptor, if it is not already.
Thanks for joining us @aceleon6237. We think it already is!
@@motorinc For me, with a budget of 2.5l for a touring bike, it certainly has become a bit more difficult.
Something interesting would be if Kartikeya also takes rides and talks about what the bike was for him as well. One thing I notice about my style of riding is, I'm pretty much on board with Schumi.
I find riding my Xpulse on the road boring and find my Duke 390 more interesting. I took a test ride of the RS457 and I wasn't exactly thrilled about it. I was enjoying it, but it didn't excite me because I felt like my duke had a more murderous aura to it that suited my flavour.
So for me, when I talk to people about bikes, it's always the ones that are more aggressive that I navigate towards. So imagining someone who's into the "calmer" side also be side by side talking about the same bike would be a good picture to paint.
Thanks for the suggestion @akhiljude8803
Well said 💯
Hi Motorinc, hope you both are doing well. I am confused between N160, MT15 and RTR 200 4v. Which one should I buy?
Need for local commute and good mileage. Please suggest.
The fact that the riding position is not as sporty as before is a bummer. I LOVED the earlier Vitpilen's riding position.....
And don't worry about delaying your vids.
Schumi's take is worth the wait!!!
(I'm typing this slogan for the third time tonight!!! 😉😉)
Gotcha @irb911, we just responded to your other comment.
How could you not trust these two gentlemen? I mean the production level, the quality has set a benchmark.
Thank you so much @YAANTRA1
I got his bike... my first bike... so it's well under control for a new rider. Abs works lik.charm.... the tyre width is so good for the ride... I changed the handle to adventure 250 handle bcos I'm bit taller... only issue I faced was..no aftermarket or company accessories available... had to alter another grab handle for add luggage rack at the back...
Thank you for sharing @cheekuzee! Glad to hear that you're enjoying it so far. How has the service experience been for you?
@motorinc good... only did first service ... i booked service slot online , no issues...
I have the svartpilen 250, Its the greatest bike ever. Great for the roads in my locality, but this bike is a luxury for me, i'm a sunday rider.
What do you like so much about it @divyanshgautam7279?
I've said that before and I'll say it again- if I was planning to start a TH-cam channel, this is the quality I would try to replicate!
Thank you very much @mohammadfahmidhasan.
We are same bro😅. I love how Shumi gives reference points to Karthikeya to explain his experience. 😂
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8:40 - Kartik's face when Shumi say about stomach. lol
The reason why older models had smaller tank, is because it made you stop for refuels, giving the engine some breathing time to cool down and then get going. It really makes a difference when you stop for 10 mins to the engine. The newer engine is SOHC setup, less complex, thus could do more functionally and practically. Everything is done in some rational design and process.
Had the opportunity to ride the “Chillpilen 250” and I agree with Shumi’s views on this bike. There’s a sense of real calmness in this bike, something that I’m not used to coming from a Dominar 400 which is quite calm to begin with 😅 but I’ve always considered Husqvarnas to be a lifestyle choice rather than a performance choice like the KTMs.
Thanks for sharing @navneeth.r7683
Great video ❤ I'm currently saving to get this as my first bike
All the best @mohit_mohite. Take plenty of test rides before making a decision (this is our recommendation for any bike!)
at 8:35 I stand with Kartikeya
Although Shumi is witty
I enjoy your gigs and conversations.
Aboslute quality content.
Keep working hard.
Thank you for joining us @vedaniket87.
Absolutely loved the review.
Was waiting for this past six months...
Finally bought the Vit few days before this video...
Love riding this bike ...
Very important points brought out in this video, specially the comparison with other similar priced bikes....
One thing bothering me is should this get heated up so much that i feel the heat radiation on my thighs and face in just four km of city ride from home to office... ??
Any owner feedback on heating issue..?
Congratulations @125junu!!
Heat: Let's see post first service once the engine settles a bit? But faster bikes will generally be a bit warm for sure
@@motorinc thanks for the reply !!
I.ll have some peace of mind now...
Shumi sir !! I'm close to getting my first bike ( with my self earned money, as you insisted).Shall I consider Xtreme 125r ?
Yes! We should have a View story for you soon too!
@@motorinc TYSM !! 🌼🤍
Your videos are pure class, thank you for being so clear and informative.
Thank you for watching @chinmaygadre4072.
13:07 that sound
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Loved the podcast.
One Query - Can the Svartpilen's DRLs be fitted to the Vitpilen ?
Because in Husqvarna official website the Vitpilen has DRLs
The international version has drls not the Indian one
You will have to replace the whole headlight for it and it will cost around 15-16k
Not worth it
Hey Motorinc team, would you guys know if the Vitpilen is getting the same TFT display from the 2025 Duke 250?t
It might not get the Duke's TFT but it should get Svartpilen's TFT. It would be awesome
Thanks guys
Thank you so much for your amazing content! This is my first time commenting on your video, but I’ve been a fan of Sumi since the PD days. While the content on this channel is incredibly rich, I would love to see more information on the RTO scenario in India. It would be really helpful to learn about the dos and don’ts of buying and selling a vehicle, as well as tips on navigating the RTO website. Thank you for considering my suggestion, and keep up the fantastic work!
Thank you for the suggestion @dangsince94.
The most waited video, finally arrived from #motorinc.
As usual awesome compose video
Thanks for the video
Thanks Satish!
I think it'll be nice to have bike reviews from Karthik time to time. Or both can provide their views
Thank you for the suggestions @gyanprakash6706.
Beautiful discussion as always ❤
Thanks for joining us @dr.ranadhishrajan2797.
the theme song SHOULDNT BE SUCH A BOP TO LISTEN TO 😭😭😭
I was riding with pillion on 3rd gear at 25km/h to 27km /h. I was damn impressed
Thanks for letting us know your experience @ujju7858. Have you ridden the older Vitpilen by any chance?
That's my first experience with new Vitpilen @@motorinc
Eagerly waiting for GUERRILLA 450 review from your guys...their tyres are tempting 😋
Hey! Early August it looks like
Love watching these thoroughly discussed video around a single vehicle. We get insights about intricate details.
I myself am going to start riding regularly soon, after consuming thousands of videos and waiting almost 2 years, I have chosen a bike for myself.
Recently opened Triumph showroom in our city made me take a look at what they had to offer, I have gone with Trident 660, ofcourse I know it's very powerful to own as a first bike. But I am happy with it as my choice, I much rather choose a bar bike on my own than a good bike someone else would've chosen for me, after all it's me who is going to experience it. Loved the whistle, loved the fit and finish, abs tc and riding modes and really good tires. I will end up doing 600 and 200 kilometres long rides as well and that bike was so comfortable when I sat on it. I am a calm person when it comes to driving or riding. I am 5'11 so seems good enough size for me not too big as well. Considering I definitely won't be buying a bike for atleast 4-5 years, I am happy with my descision. (heated grips considering I am from J&K is a also a great feature I won't get frostbite during winters haha) Over the months I have posted many comments ranging from Zx4R to Z650 to Cb300r and my confusion has finally come to a conclusion. Patiently waiting for the delivery now 😄
Be careful! That's a big step of a first bike.
@@motorinc keeping all the safety precautions in check, which were discussed in few previous podcast eps 🤝
17:23 Only Honda pulls off but no other brand has really cracked that
Honda is honda 🗿
Hey MotorInc, this is a question towards Shumi. I'm upgrading from unicorn which makes arround 12bhp. I like a little bit of off-roading since my unicorn doesn't have abs, it's fun to slide the back wheel haha but i recently rode R15 which helped me appreciate how beautiful the commited nature feels like.
Cutting the cake, if i were to buy a 25bhp motorcycle, ironically in the same price bracket we have vehicles with 40bhp.
Looking at Duke 250, we have 400Z as well as 400X almost in the same ballpark
It's true that 390 duke might be out of my reach as of now but if we were to look at Swartpilen 401 or even Himalayan it's kinda close to the price bracket as well both around 40bhp.
It would be helpful if you can point out which of these 40bhps are actually like a 25bhp in terms of headroom and which of these are in the territory which has a headroom of 50bhp+ class.
Really appreciate your response, I'm willing to wait for a proper one from you guys. Take your time.
I would also love to put forward the idea that classifying motorcycles in terms of headroom in each category would make a good video :')
A little confused as to why whenever 250 class and touring comes up Shumi never suggests the Vstorm 250, It's spacious, decent engine, good economy.
The discussion isn't about that @duhanaayush. Besides, the V-Strom isn't a unilateral recommendation! Only specific kind of people will like it.
@@motorinc being in that niche, i guess my views are slightly biased towards ADV bikes. Anyways thanks for clarifying.
Seeing shumi from powerdrift to here feels wow
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11:29 that grabrail is a consequence of customer feedback - “my pilion feels like they’ll fall off every time I accelerate 🤦🏻♂️”
Seriously, if you’re riding pilion, don’t be a dead weight. Help the rider out, it’s fun for both people.
Here in Germany, having something to grab for the passenger is mandated by law.
Hence the handle/spoiler thing.
They probably just put it on every bike because it's easier to manufacture, even if it's not required.
The Vitpilen 250 vs bajaj NS200Z/Hero Mavrick 440 conversation is what i have between the BMW 310GS and the Triumph scrambler 400X for the past 6 months.
Hey @puneethmys152! Quality and comfort aside, there's no reason to think 310GS at all. _None._
@@motorinc Yes. that's what i have concluded myself recently.
Oh my gosh! I have waited so long for this video. Thank you guys!
Thank you for waiting @billyfromindia!
when is the guerilla 450 according to your schedule
July end, early august
@@snehasishdev3296 ohh great
Thanks @snehasishdev3296!
Guys idgaf what you guys are saying I'm booking one this week itself tested it yesterday and i absolutely loved it .the thing is an absolute value for money 😤
Thank you for letting us know @akshayps8426. Congratulations! Let us know how this goes.
I have duke 250 for more than 2 years now and it still scares me with it's pace and traffic alertness I need to have, you guys saying it is calm 😂 clearly another level of riding you have reached.. my style is just 90-100 touring speeds and much lower if back roads and a little bit of off-roading and I feel completely satisfied with D250..
Glad to hear that @MohdSameer-jw3ti! Thanks for sharing.
Perfect review.. Same thoughts of people
Thanks for watching @rsivapradeep.
After riding the Himalayan, Scrambler 400x and Honda CB350, I think the Scrambler is a better choice even though I am 55kgs and 5.4 and I want to learn how to ride a tall bike. I will be mostly riding it for the office commute (35kms) daily in Bangalore traffic and weeknd ride and learn riding a big bike.
My worry is:
1. The tank range with 24kmpl with 13lts tank in the Scrambler.
2. Height since sometimes I feel am I too optimistic about learning to ride a talk bike? 😏
Upgrading for a Yamaha FZ version 4 bought 7 months back and gifting it to my uncle since its now boring for me apart from the mileage. My uncle is upgrating from 24yrs old Kawasaki Boxer 😂
Hi @abhishekkhanra5137, thanks for sharing.
1. This is definitely a concern with these engines but currently there isn't a solution we can offer you.
2. This, on the other hand, is a matter of practice and something you can definitely get used to. We wouldn't use this as a reason to rethink your decision.
Excellent! We're always up for using motorcycles for all that they have to offer! Who's your uncle giving his KB Boxer to? 😅
@motorinc Thanks for answering. Will be buying Scrambler 400x coming week. Full Cash is Ready!! 😏
My uncle won't give the Kawasaki Boxer to anyone. I remember he used to take me for awesome rides before I turned 10. 😅 Too much emotions!! Still clocks around 90 in the highways 😂
I have a Speed 400, it can easily give you around 30 kmpl for long rides. It is in the city/short rides the mileage is 25 ish.
@abhishekkhanra5137: Best of luck! Do let us know how it goes
Chill pillion 😁 thank you so much 🐐
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Love the opening as always❤
Will upgrading the duke 250 chassis with the 390 suspension workout? What's your thought on it?
Yup. Can be done!
Nice video, guys! Very informative.
I'm looking to purchase my first bike soon, and torn among this, KTM Duke 250 and Triumph Speed 400. I’m gravitating most toward Husky. Which one would you guys recommend?
All three are similar in at least one way @HermeticAscetic22, they are calm and composed machines but to varying degrees. We'd suggest test riding all of them, ideally on the same day, to know which degree you prefer the most.
@@motorinc All right, thank you. 🙂
@shumi sir , please come back with videos like your PD simplified , they are really helpful want more of them. :)
Thanks for the suggestion @Mohit_Choudhari.
I love this channel!
Thank you @art_seer.
Can we retrofit the old handles?
Hey motorinc due, plan a review on Honda Highness or the CB 350. Eagerly waiting for the same
We have not been given test bikes from Honda @samirraj8691. Waiting for more than a year at this point.
23:46 negative space 🤣 I see what you did there editor 😆
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The point made in 400s section resonated with my dilemma of picking a 250 or 400. While I've test ridden 400x, 401, H452, G310 GS I've also ridden the D250, Vitpilen, V-Strom 250. I thought I'll get the 401 and that'd be it But the Pirelli thing and showroom staff not interested enough for the brand put me off.
Finally I've shortlisted:
V-Strom 250 (Lightweight, simple, touring format, better FE and range) and
400x (Much better suspensions, more power and torque, a more aspirational brand)
Which of these two would you suggest for daily commute, no off-roading, and once a month tour ~700kms?
Both fits my usage perfectly. With VS250 I'll have to deal with stiff suspensions. With 400x I'll have to deal with wind blast and weak lights. Price difference being 70k currently both providing discounts.
Sounds like my dilemma. I am looking at the same options for the same reasons. The Vstrom 250 is a bit out of date and I keep wondering if a facelift is around the corner.
@@aceleon6237 It’s only been 2 years since VS250 has been launched so I highly doubt a facelift is coming soon. Even if they do it’ll be a new color scheme or sticker job at max nothing major
Hey @bhrameshvaria and @aceleon6237! If you're not a completely new rider, we'd suggest you pick the larger engine. It'll feel better in all conditions, and the 400X is quite a bit more comfy than the VSX250
@@motorinc Thanks for this. Time to bite the bullet!
@@motorinc Thanks, team Motorinc. I did a back to back test ride and booked the 400X. Delivery is in few days. Cannot wait!
What about parts availability? Is this company user end repairs friendly? Or there are any restrictions ?
KTM Service is pretty decent, @vardaankaushal8560. You should be okay
@@motorinc that's good if they're providing good service but do they sell parts to customers so that repairs can be done private garages ?
guys, precisely at 8:40, that's Kartikeya expression summing up working with Shumi.
Oh, what a time to give a Galaxy watch with a wide bezel reference! I would call that a Samsung Galaxy Watch Ultra or something like that.
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Should i go for RC200 or vitpilen 250 ? The price difference is 35k.i always wanted to buy one track machine because I've been watching moto GP since my childhood as well the cockpit looks dope on RC series.
Then RC, no?
@@motorinc yes going to get RC 200 it will be more fun to ride isn't it guys ? I can manage with the less power.
A superb one, great clarity....
Thank you @ajayadhiya2010
Can we have episode explaining the tyre to machine connection … I mean how to choose one depending on you riding style also how to take care and symptoms when your tyre goes bad.
We have @Vorahemal. Here: th-cam.com/video/KD1hl9QXids/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NBguuk5DijOULklS
So I’m not sure but apparently there seems to be internal talks going on in TVS to bring their newly acquired British brand Norton Motorcycles to India. Now why this is interesting is that the portfolio of Norton is basically expertise in litre class motorcycles, which they could trickle down to 500cc with manufacturing in India to reduce costs and price could be a real game changer. And yes, I could very much wrong on this too, but I’m gonna keeps the hopes high
We won't comment on speculation, DM. Let's see once there's a bike we can ride with a price.
Shumi's references to the body works 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Regarding its name Shumi is spot on . I told my friend that I'm looking to buy Huqsvarna and they literally said "Yeh Kya hai " 😂
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Can I put svart401 headlamp and old vitpilen front fender instead of the new one from after market.
😲 Why @ankitjha4474?
Please suggest regarding service availability, interval cost , network parts and all
We'll be covering that in the full review @saurabhojha9166.
Although some of the newer 400s are cheaper but would you recommend it over the 250s for someone who’s just starting his riding journey?
No @avishekdiyali, we wouldn't. But would you be willing to spend ~₹2.5 lakh twice within the span of five years?
Took 4 test drives and I was convinced this was it and almost booked Vitpilen, took a test drive of Speed 400 and was sold for it🫣 riding the speed happily now😅
Awesome! Thanks for sharing @jennisonr.
I wanted to understand from you fine gentlemen, why you don’t cover more expensive higher range bikes? I would love to get your take on the Kawasaki versys 650 2024 and the honda transalp 750. Do you have any plans to do these?
Contemplating getting back to riding almost after 20-22yrs. Looking for a city bike ( occasionally inter city rides) with pillion comfort. Was looking at TVS Ronin, Jawa 42FJ. What would you suggest? Need not be within the two mentioned. Thanks. Btw love your content
Do we buy vitpilen 250 2023 now is it available on showroom
Fucking FINALLLYYYYY!!! And man it was worth the wait. It's always worth the wait. Thank you!
Thank you for waiting @pranatsinha.