Chaos In Parliament. Angry Lekota vs EFF On Land Reform
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Parliament of South Africa - “To represent the people, and to ensure government by the people in fulfilling our constitutional functions of passing laws and overseeing executive action”. Watch COPE leader Mosiuoa Lekota going head to head with the EFF on Land Reform in Parliament SONA 2018 Debate. *****
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Hahahaha. What did you go to do in ROBBEN ISLAND OMG. The shade is on a high level
What were u doing at Robin Island 😂😂😂😂
I like Mr. Lekota. He is very honest, he is really against any discrimination.
EFF needs to have a very good strategy when it comes to this land issue...
The original people must. get their land back from the invaders.
Who stole it.
The Zulus need to return the land to those they stole it off then.
Absolutely we still want it they must not relax
@@snowflakemelter1172 That’s not your business let us take care of African issues with out as Africans
@@themburoyalty2179 anything posted on social media is anyones business.
Well spoken Mr. Lekota! I admire your courage for standing up and addressing these issues! I fully support you that we need answers to these questions! Why are these EFF members allowed in parliament if they keep dragging everything into total ridicule, making fools of every single person sitting in the South African parliament? The whole world is laughing at our ridiculous parliament that resembles a kindergarten full of five year olds fighting over toys. Mr. Ndlozi is so funny isn't he? He just cracked the biggest joke in parliament for a long time and now all the other five year olds are laughing. He is so cool. And on top of that, all of this is happening while Mr. Lekota's time is running out... ahahahahaha it is so funny, people are just debating one of the most serious topics in post Apartheid South Africa since 1994, the question whether the constitution should be changed so that government has the right to expropriate all land from all South African citizens without compensation. When government has the right to do this, let's say a predominantly Xhosa ruling party for example, can just take all property from South African Zulu citizens and then after taking everything start renting it back to them and even make a huge profit on the property they just stole!
U are so smart are you
There is no need to example that I
So it is okay to come into someone's home, kill them take their property and later when the family of the murdered come for justice, the person can ask for money in order to return the property acquired by blood. If so then okay.
But not all the land was stolen. Much of it was bought, and there is solid evidence for that.
Lakota for president
Nice try. Boors went to land uninhabited, typically, built water systems and the farms from nothing. Now that the farms are making money, all these "owners" appear just because they lived nearby. They're effectively people who see a nice house in the neighborhood being owned by an immigrant and demand it for themselves.
@@matheuroux5134 from whom they were bought...buying stolen property is a crime
@@HottopicsLegacy if you can tell me where in SA law it says that buying stolen property is a crime, I would believe you, but it's not. Anyway, I was referring to land brought from natives, usually in large swathes like the deal between Piet Retief and Dingane. The problem here came in with differences in understanding of land ownership between cultures. Tribal leaders saw the transaction as a short term deal between them and settlers, settlers saw them as permanent.
Sometimes I wonder how they ever get anything done. That place is a circus!
Vala umlomo
U are circus urself
Mr Lekota, I have great respect for you. Thank you for this point that you have brought up. We cannot have double-standards in the Constitution.
Fixing the in balance of the Pastor, and amending the constitution
Lekota is a mistake, his parents should have used withdrawal method
We need our land black come 2019
So he's fighting for Khoisans ....
Lekota we received he signal from mama now we no you one of the anc sellouts betrayers who sold mama Winnie
😂😂😂 nice one!
This type of chaos has been going on in S African Parliament for 24 years. When someone drives them in a corner demanding an answer then they want the person to shut up and sit down. That is why everything has fallen apart.
I can't be left with 145😁😁😁😁
We must also make sure that these parliamentary debates is seen in Europe so that they can see what is going on
And do what?? Inferiority and superiority complex?
The Europeans don't care about Africa. They'll kick Africa to the curb at any chance they get.
@@heheyboi1065 easy be successful. At anything. Surely you can't be that dumb
What does Europe has to do this South African parliament issues????
Are you a spy maybe, reporting somewhere in Europa?
Watching from Namibia.
Awesome Awesome Man!!!
True Rainbow Nation Warrior!!!
Well done Honourable Lekota.. you deserve the indian and white votes..CR will make a very grave mistake if he goes through with the expropriation of land without compensation. this country will be doomed. not that it has not already . Zuma has seen that, hence he did not follow through. you would be foolish Mr President to do otherwise.
Uzoshona loba stru because of stress, kanti wayelwelani during the struggle
Lol true
Confusion 🤣
Honorable Lekota indeed!
I laughed so hard I started crying, :D 1 minute 45 seconds :D
Lekota is right. Discrimination is not ok
The answer is YES‼🎬
EFF policies is that of utter caious, disaster and Zimbabwe's dark economic pathetic state!
Was Israel a disaster?
Africa is for Africans !
Makes a great point he is a great man
typical white person respond.
Zimbabwe x 10, or Venezuala, that is what will happen if property is stolen by Communists.
Hahahaha land repossession is unstoppable it's on the doorstep of SA
Thanx sir you are a gentleman
No one can run form Europe to Africa. It's not running it's immigrating. This old man is a shame to other veterans of the struggle.
The name speaks for itself South AFRICA
Minister Naledi Pando she was right about cope material cope is dying slowly slowly
This is a shameful display of a lack of respect for dialogue and how extremism in any form will lead to the destruction of SAF
The country will be just fine.
Lekota is one of the sellout.
South Africa should not be for everyone who lives in it.
Lekota👏👏👏👏👏 he fought for equality .. We are all South Africans..who is not "our people"
lekota embaressed himself here
you need an education Adam.
Respect to you Sir. Finally speaking the truth. We are all South Africans. Truthfully Mr Lekota should have been the president of this country.
Lol... You're pushing the issue now. Land that was taken from the indigenous people with guns and bloodshed cannot be bought with millions
You can not all be 'South Africans' while your forefathers stole from their forefathers.
Andre Mulder we are African when it favours you, you visitors here
Mpho Morajanempho land that never belonged to you
Mr Kruger you must be from jupiter africa for africans look for your origins you must be lost
Yaani huwa sichoki kuangalia vituko vya hili Bunge. Mko juu. To understand what I have just written refer to Swahili Dictionary.
I agree with Mr lekota. We need clarity on this. Its a vague slogan. Whos land. What land. Who gets targeted. Who benefits. Its all just claptrap.
M1ke22 absolutely agree. Those that landed are not our fault or responsibility. I am a 1st generation living here so that makes me a South African.
The land belongs to the Black African people.
TOX TV in what book was this written up in? ??? Who said so????
M1ke22 I agree
TOX TV no you are wrong the khoi san was the first to be in south africa black people came with Jan van Riebeeck
Valid question asked, poorly handled by the deputy speaker and not afforded the parliamentary protection as would be expected. Also answered by the EFF who loudly supported the targeting of SOUTH AFRICANS on the basis of their skin colour. HKGK
Well done lekota
I respect you man
True man, pigs dont like clean people
One may not agree with him, but I also need answers
Mesmerizing speech ,bravo,may EFF rule.
This is what i call wisdom from i person he knows what he is talking about.
Ndlonzi is challenging Lekota but Lekota is challenging the speaker kkkkk My Africa Your Africa
😂😂😂 athi I can't be left with 145 this is sabotage 😂😂😂 ngaze nga'hleka!
@@ndiwemkhonkosi8749 yeah ! Man I'm glad of the transparency in our Parliament and for Terror this was one of jokes I have been laughing at everytime I'm watching it, now the other thing is that he don't know where he stands cz sometimes he support EFF but in other time he support DA and ANC kkkkk
This parliament is a disgrace. They’re acting like school children, can’t even keep quiet for 5 minutes. Shameful display
I agree with honorable Lekota
That man is a stooge he has been paid by the white people this is a simple case the land belongs to the indigenous people of South Africa everybody who came from Europe India I don't care whatever what are they being there for generations and generations met indigenous people so here exactly no more no less we must go to war and get our land back
yes. those people came to our country to dig up our diamond and minerals, beat our forefathers and hated them because of the colour of their skin, oppressed our forefathers in their own land. so yes, their land must be expropriated without compensation.
Katleho Makhetha you are such a uneducated person
Lekota is such a disgrace at that age how pathetic
HE IS VERY RIGHT
Imagine having to translate all this to sign language
The sign guy is dead😂😂
Why must we pay for what was forcefully taken from us?? and on top of that blood was shared when the land was taken from black South Africans....now we must compensate them when we take back what was ours to begin with????? I doesn't make any sense!!
Whose land was taken it was never yours but the khoisan
@@yoliswa5390 and khoisn what they natives so what are you even saying, the point is still stand why should khoisn pay the conolizers for taking back land
@@sakurakou2009 go read history u not clued up
Valid question 😢
Lekota for president. Only one making sense
Cecilia Minnaar... I totally disagree with you.. If something was taken from people by force no payment must be made when the land is returned
Matome Maila are the Khoisan are getting the land? And the Bantu speakers are heading back to the Congo, the Dutch, British, and French back to Europe, and the Asians back to Asia? Or do land rights only matter for the majority people?
Sorry wars for fought already about this. Must America then be given back to the indians?
not all of it was taken. only some of it. you cant take everything because some of it was stolen. I think you need an education
@@TommySleeze So now you fighting for the Khoisan???
Well said Lekota
Age is getting the best of him.
He is out of control. politics and emotions don't match, Lekota o too emotional, it's the parliament not the church
He thinks we are at church here, re moo palamenteng the land must be returned to the original owners who are....? The black ppl not the Indians who mistreat the blacks and only help themselves as Indians the Lekota tells ask us which land are we going to take, when the indians and other capitalist came here they never owned any land so how come he asks us which land are we going to expropriate. Lekota go home you are too old maybe he's saying this because he owns a plot somewhere he doesn't know the feeling of being landless in your own country. Go to India or Germany and se if you will be allowed to own the land... You won't
You mean well said Honorable Lekota ? lol
Hon. Lekota, the constitution was made by people, it can be amended .
Made by people who stole the land.
This is the same man that went to Eugene Terreblanche`s funeral and cried a river of tears. Bloody sell out
u saw how many was at mandelas funeral. so if u go to funerals ur a sell out? did Terblanche do anything to u ?
Many black kids are studying Agriculture and they will work for whites on their ancestors land but well said Mr Lekota.
My ID book says I am also "OUR" people. The Constitution and Bill of Rights were written for ALL of US not an exclusive part of the population. It is time to treat EVERYONE with the equal rights afforded in the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
carol steffers yes I agree with you but at the moment there is inequality so how do you suggest we correct this? We were not equal in the past so these type of things are corrective measures to ensure equality amongst us.
This is a mistake, history shows us what a huge mistake it has always been. Do we trust these people who have lead our country into ruin to suddenly make good decisions?
The "people" will not own the land, as we have seen up to now, no deeds will be handed to the people. Government will own the land, the people will work and live on it until they do or say something that doesn't suit the ruling party and they will be kicked off, held hostage if you will. This is how every communist tragedy started.
Inequality is a fact of life, there has always been inequality, it's what drives men to be better so their sons can have a better life. It has driven kings to be kings, queens to be queens. Can you honestly be proud of something you did not work for?
In answer to the below, I am also a citizen and I am also unequal. I work for myself. I do not own property or a car and have little money in the bank. Those people who call me white privileged, well, let me laugh and say, exactly WHAT PRIVILEGE? To the government, I would say, it is about time that you sort out the welfare of this country. There are too many jobless, living in shacks, with no hope at all... It is about time somebody looks at the needs of the community in general and not debate about black or white or whatever, that is only wind and a waste of time. It is the real issues that matter, the issues on street level... We are all citizens of this beautiful country and we all deserve better, especially those who have lived on nothing or little for so long.
In my personal experience BEE is just wrong. Because of BEE a well qualified person like me cannot find a job. I am unemployed. I now resort to other means to find honest income.
That is what Parliament does, they concoct these wonderful schemes to "improve" SA but what they are actually doing is causing suffering to many, many ordinary people.
To be honest lekota lost his struggle credentials in this one he has became historical mistake he denounces him from values of revolution
That's a smart question honorable lekota...
Really but he has got a point
Lol. There's nthng there..
Mr Buthelezi legend
He gets a few minutes to raise the most important issue in our country today and is disrupted and interrupted from the ground up to the chair only to be told, your time is up and your mic will be switched of, before getting an answer. Parliament is full of brainless hooligans that don't deserve to be sweeping the streets around that building.
Lekota my time is not finished lmao
Even Shenge Buthelezi respect EFF... amandla, malibuye lelizwe
Yes is the answer sir
Exactly who is our people
Buthelezi😂😂they all listen
😂😂😂the old man lol everyone respects him
the answer is YES
Lekota is an enemy of the poor landless black people.
Lekota is right, who is "our people"?
Yes - this is not clear anymore - that which was obvious before - is no more clear - so this is a legitimate question that needs to be answered.
100%, the EFF are snakes
Our people is the original people of SA
Anybody born in Africa is an African
The people is everyone that was previously disadvantaged in the past during the days of apartheid. We have people living in shacks or a family of 8 under one roof, no kitchen only one room while on the other hand we have people who have vast land that they are using as a garden to plant flowers.
The only solution we have is to correct the imbalances of the past and return the land to the people who need it
RIP COPE.
The answer is Yesss
ten out of ten honourable lakota we all South Africans of the country
His Royal Highness Buthelezi big up
I love south African parliament too much humour
The Answer is "YES" lol
lekota 2019 is coming
The land question is not ambiguous, Africa is for Africans. Not expatriates
Deputy speaker must re-read the bill of rights and stop over using his powers ..Is like we going back to zuma's situation nothing is changing here mahn ..EFF cant wait for the day you rule this country we just need you to transform this contry into a better place ..i will vote for you until i lay shame Juju we need you everyday with your cabbinet the future of this hand is honestly into your hands this madalas and magogos must go! They doing nothing but corruption they dont even understand the constitution ..
allow honourable Lekota has a right to speak
The ANC seems to have morphed into a corrupt and incompetent group of criminals of no good intentions to govern a country where the majority people are still being short changed. Where’s there human capacity and the quality of feeling ashamed of themselves...
I love out parliament lol,Mr Lakota you are old now
I respect you honourable Lakota
No wonder his political party is becoming irrelevant now, he seriously sold out this one. He's an embarrassment to an african child, m even failing to understand what is it that he was doing in robben Island.
LEKOTA HAS A POINT
Sasa
Lekota trying to please White settlers, but he knows black indigenous people were disposed of their land by coloniast. We must all share this land
Jip, My man Lekota
uncle ruckus!hahaha
I thought the UK parliament was awesome. SA Parliament has them beat. As chaotic as it looks, it's nice to see actual democracy in action. Cheers to all in SA.
Every time we take a step forward some people wanna take 3 steps back, i don't want to see what happened in 2010 to repeat it self. if they take that land back what are they gonna do with it because so far those who were able to take it back have turned it into deserts there's no progress happening. people are just being greedy you can't fight to be a CEO of a company just because it's your fathers company and you don't even have the qualifications.
To think that I voted COPE once. Believed in Terror even against Mbazima. He bana.
our people is everybody who has invested in SA
Who is "your" people?
Only people of European origin are congratulating him, why?
They should respect Lekota do they know he's the one who revived Mandela's spirit in jail?? He motivated him planting tomatoes... Ndlozi is disrespectful..
If you come for my house I will not give you " tea and koeksisters this I promise you !!
Haw uLekota uzenza uhlanya manje
This man, Mr Lekota, KNOWS SA History backwards!
Cindy Lee
Who's side are you on? do you want your land to be stolen?
How can people take these people serious? No manners and no dignity!
That black guy EFF is actually quite cute,if you take away the hate and all the crap,its entertaining.I have decided this is my new reality show lol.
Land question 😂😂