6023 King Edward II First Depart from Kingswear plus a Special Celebration. 29th June 2018
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2018
- The 3rd of 5 videos documenting the arrival and operation at, and departure from the Dartmouth Steam Railway.
On a sweltering summer day 6023 makes her first “smokebox forward” depart from Kingswear, in difficult back-light the heat is tangible. As she gets into her stride we can hear the effects of the blast pipe modifications designed by Dr Jos Koopmans, made necessary by the shortening of the chimney in order to fit the mainline loading gauge. This involved converting the original single blast pipe into four mini pipes, resulting in not so much of a “bark” as a “woof”, and a slight whistle if you listen closely. However there is no doubt in my mind that keeping to a single shortened chimney was worth all the pain as to me it looks nicer than a double chimney. Later in the day “The Blue Thing” as it is affectionately known on the DSR, stops to pick up passengers at Greenway Halt sporting a J4A code on the smokebox in celebration of a “Happy Couple” on-board, associated with the railway and on their way to a reception in the Bay. Again the heady atmosphere of summer is almost overwhelming as KEII lifts the train with ease up the 1 in 75 to the overbridge at Coombe Lane where the regulator is closed for the coast into Churston Station at the top of the climb. The crew are clearly getting used to this very powerful locomotive hauling a diminutive seven coach load and with a high fire risk due to the very hot and dry conditions, in fact the "fire train" was seen hurrying down the line as I was packing the camera away, let's hope it wasn't too serious!
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Bloody marvellous video.perfect background and beautiful scenery, thank you so much!
Hello Trevor and thank so much for such glowing comments, they are much appreciated. Kind regards, Alan
Having watched your videos of the King arriving and the gauging trials, it was good to see the loco doing what she was designed to do.
Hello Keith: nice to hear that you viewed the "box set" as it were! Regards, Alan
Thanks once again for a beautiful post. Even as a Southern man I must agree with other comments she looks magnificent .Hope to see her this weekend.
Hello Tony and thank you for the nice remarks. I have to say that the King is my favourite, they just look the part and at any speed sound so good, hence my choice of avatar and title background. Always good to hear from you. Best regards, Alan
Thank you very much for this great clip of the glorious 6023! I really hope we will see it tear along at
the mainline in the future :-)
greetings from Norway:-)
Hei og takk. I am glad that you enjoyed the clip and like you, look forward to a mainline future. Best regards, Alan
Hi Alan, wonderful shots of a beautiful steam loco and train. Cheers, Norbert
You are welcome Norbert, lovely to get your nice feedback again. Kind regards, Alan
Brilliant video Alan. Nice to see KE11 working well. Superbly captured at Kingswear. Enjoyable watching as always. Kind regards C&A
Hello Folks and always lovely to get your feedback. She certainly is a picture down here in the sunshine. Best wishes, Alan
That was a brilliant series of well-thoughtout tracking shots. You obviously practiced them beforehand (a pity other don't do the same). I suspect all were tripod mounted as there was only one very brief bit of camera shake. This was a real pleasure to watch. Might I add that the soundtrack at the join of the 2nd and 3rd sections didn't miss a beat. Well done.
Hello Robbie and thank you for your kind feedback, I sense that you know what you are talking about in your critique, which I very much appreciate. Best regards, Alan
My pleasure. Yes, I was taught that technique when I used an 8mm cine camera. We had to use a tripod in those days, cameras were much heavier than their current digital counterparts.
Nicely captured, Alan. Good to see 6023 down this way. Hoping to get to see her later in July. Hopefully the ground may not be so dry then. Keith.
Hi Keith: thanks for the nice feedback. It is a real treat to look out of my window and watch a King go by! Best regards, Alan
Hello Alan another lovely video.
Even though i love the Gresley engines I think the kings and castles are magnificent engines, she looks lovely in blue.
I believe you have had 30 degree days.
Seems funny thinking 30 it sweltering when its often over 40 in summer in Sydney. We had 47 once.
I do remember the summer of 59, i was 6 and had a week on Canvey Island, it reached 30 and was as you say sweltering.
But then the big freeze of 63 I wont. forget either.
Keep the vids coming.
Love yer work.
Hi Steven and thank you for your kind remarks and reminiscences. You are not the first to mention my "sweltering" at a measly 24C but I guess it is what you are used to. I start to flag at anything over 20C!!! Best wishes, Alan
Steamclips Sometimes it that hot I stick me head in the oven to cool off, ok just kidding.
You never get used to hot weather.
Air conditioning is a must.
Thanks for making me smile Steven. As a matter of fact it is pouring with rain right now! so see my next post which I should be uploading later today. Alan
I really enjoyed that vid of the "almost forgotten" King Alan. Thanks goodness for band of supporters who persevered through various technical challenges, described in excellent detail here. I hadn't known that a redesign of the blastpipe had been involved, but great credit is due to the team in producing a loco worthy of tackling the network once again and with exhaust sounds not that far away from the original design. I'm thinking of the sounds of her restarting from the little station. I'm inclined to agree with you regarding the appearance of the reduced height chimney. The more squat appearance conveys to me a sense of brooding power something like the rebuilt Bulleid Pacifics. I'm not a GWR expert but I do admire the locos, and enjoy watching them in action. As you may notice I live north of the England-Scotland border and my alliegences tend to be ex LMS and Caley. However that doesn't prevent me looking admiringly at other company's products. Thanks for the post. Best wishes. Ken
Hello Ken and thank you for your kind and most interesting comments. I think that it is difficult for most of us to grasp the enormous effort and determination it has taken volunteers to turn what was considered by most to be an irretrievable scrap locomotive into the glorious piece of living breathing sculpture we see today. A true inspiration in this sometimes disheartening world! Best regards, Alan
Steamclips . I certainly find it quite amazing that the support team have persevered to this point, including casting new driving wheels to replace those rendered useless through a mindless piece of vandalism. What component(s) Could have been so badly needed that the perpetrators had to cut through driving wheels? Not true enthusiasts, that's for sure! I'm a member of the supporter of that "other" impossible restoration job, Duke of Gloucester, now at Tyseley, and hope to join Kell back on the tracks later this year! Best wishes from Ken
Sorry Kell!
Excellent Alan, planning to do those very same shots when Im next down in Dartmouth. Waiting for cooler weather! Geraint
Hello Geraint and thank you for the nice comment. Be sure to check with the information desk before you come, she did not run at all this weekend. Best regards, Alan
Thanks Alan I will do, Don't want a wasted journey. Geraint
jolies prises de vue !
Bonjour Francois: Je vous remercie pour votre aimable commentaire. Meilleures salutations, Alan
Fantastic shot there Alan I believe the next port of call for king Edward ll is the mainline hopefully she would be available for the mainline until 6024 king Edward l comes back from the overhaul
Hello Scott: thank you for the great feedback. We will not see 6023 on the mainline until she has had her boiler overhauled and re-certified. I guess that will be in the next 4 or 5 years, so maybe another 5 years with two Kings on the mainline? Best regards, Alan
well its already done its test run already Alan on the seven valley railway the boiler is already done the overhaul and its already been re certified so im afraid mate it is going to be on the mainline for the next 5 years until 6024 will soon join in and make the first time that two kings meet each other on the mainline since the end of steam
I refer to the announcement posted on 31Jan. see here in red: www.6023.co.uk/news/news.htm. Alan
I believe 6023/4 will be double heading to Penzance or Kingswear sometime in Kingswear.
Scott Whiley... Unfortunately it won't be on the mainline until after it's next overhaul. There's only about a year and half left on the ticket so it makes sence to wait. It was confirmed recently.
I found my way back to this video because I recently acquired an N-scale model of KEII to run on my working diorama of Churston. As far as I know, she didn't run a service to Kingswear, so this is a very special event you have filmed here. I am so pleased to make a re-acquaintance with this video, and to read your remarks ... very helpful when I take the module to shows. I've recently learned that the Kings had inside bearings on the second pair of wheels - so I am happy that I can see that in action. I see she is numbered 6023, whereas my model is 6021... is that an inaccuracy from the model's manufacturer?
My module's first outing was last week, and it garnered a fair amount of interest from folk - including a young woman who hails from Broadsands! Since my module is but 5' long, my KEII can only handle much less than the 13 carriages on the prototype, or even this trip - having to settle for 5 .I'll boost my module here, Alan, if you don't mind (can't think how else to say so), as it is due to be published in the October 2021 issue of Railway Modeller (although the photos I took were pre-6021 days with 'Tiverton Castle' instead... which, no doubt the purists will tell me, didn't run down Churston way either).
Thankyou, Alan, for your 'ear' on this, apologies if I have overstepped
Hi Peter and thank you for your message although I am not exactly sure what it is that you feel you might be taking liberties with? Also, what is a module? is it an exhibition layout? As for numbering of Kings, it starts with 6000 which was outshopped in 1927 and named after the current monarch: King George V, thereafter as each was produced and numbered, the name allocated was the previous monarch i.e. 6001 was King Edward VII. So 6021 was King Richard II, 6023 King Edward II, 6024 King Edward I and so on. If you wish to use any of my footage, that is perfectly O.K. as long as you don't make any changes. I am often asked and always oblige as long as that condition is acceptable. Best regards, Alan
@@Steamclips Thankyou for the update re the Kings. Absolutely my mistake - had to take a strong magnifying glass to read my model loco is actually Richard. Mystery solved. Never mind, I got the 'vibes' from KEII... beautiful loco, eh.
Was it the Flying Scotsman that went to the US, and everyone marvelled at her beauty? US steamers are too ugly!
Yes, my model started as a project to show Canadians how Brits model in the UK. And then I thought to operate it, so, yes, it's an exhibition layout. I hope the Railway Modeller article will 'make a silk purse out of my pigs ear'
How hot does your summers get? I live in Tennessee and at our peak in August daily temps will be over 100 degrees Fahrenheit.....not counting humidity......cheers and keep up the good work
Hello Thomas and thank you for the nice feedback. It is true that I probably complain too much about anything over 70F but as we are surrounded by the sea here in the south west peninsula we rarely get much over that at sea level and rarely below freezing in the winter. I am familiar with your summer temperatures as I visit the U.S. every two years for a 3 week motorcycling tour. I recall Death Valley and Lake Havasu, both over 110F, dry heat, but sat astride a hot Harley! therefore New England in the Fall this year!! Best regards, Alan
Thanks for so many good videos. Good quality, sight and sound... almost like being there. BTW, do all trains stop at Grenaway* Halt, as your vids suggest? Having a halt on the grade like that would tax most locos... but your 57xx vid puts the lie to that! Is the halt there for visitors to Agatha Christie's house? *It was pronounced Grenaway when I was a lil' tacker, and, yes, we'd say Dit'sum, too.
Once again thank you for such nice comments and interesting question. Greenway or Greenaway (have never used Grenaway) Halt was built to serve the National Trust property, the holiday home of Agatha Christie (my wife and I are volunteers there) and is a request halt. From the train you inform the guard and from the station you press a button which activates the signal. You may also notice the RY (right away) repeater placed track-side in front of where the engine stops as the guard cannot be seen from the footplate. The Manor leaving from there makes a wonderful sound: th-cam.com/video/N-_m71Ibok4/w-d-xo.html Best Regards, Alan
Nice video clips. Looks as though they were going quite gently to avoid lineside fires.
Thanks for the nice comment Paul, I think you are right about lineside fires and the fire train is currently being used on a daily basis to water spray the most vunerable areas of the line. Best regards, Alan
Making light work of the gradient
She's a beast! Regards, Alan
I reckon the King looks fine in blue😊
984francis King Edward II The Blue Engine.
Is the West Highland Line Observation Car not meant to be at the rear of the train?
Ron leitch we do thinks different here in Devon,ass about face , as my late mother would say
Ron leitch it will be at the wrong end on the way back though
eddo167 Of course it is! That’s why either a turntable, or a triangle was required!
Hello Ron and thank you for your question. The observation car is of course best placed at the rear as it is on the journey from Paignton but with a "there and back" route it is always going to be at the front in one direction. Regards, Alan