Brave Little Pannier Tank. L94 on the Dartmouth Steam Railway 4to7Sep.
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- It was quite a surprise to see a diminutive 57xx pannier tank hard at work recently on a regular Dartmouth Steam Railway roster. Drafted in from the Tyseley Collection as emergency cover this eager little engine immediately won the hearts of crews and passengers alike to such an extent that it earned a place on regular workings. Here is a short set of clips showing the climb from the River Dart to Churston, much of it at 1 in 60, including an astonishingly sure-footed start out of Greenway Halt considering the 280 ton load, the slippery conditions and the twisty nature of the track. Note how the loco rocks with the effort (approximately 60% of maximum tractive effort) applied by the two inside cylinders, no wonder she has been so popular.
Like Duck and all other panniers, a friendly and useful engine...
There are two ways of doing things: The Great Western Way or the wrong way.
Excellent video. Never underestimate a pannier Tank. Very powerful loco's.
Hello Christopher and many thanks for your kind (and accurate!) comments. Best regards, Alan
Yep. Powerful and tough as old boots.
Excellent video. My favourites are 9466 & 1501....powerful yet handsome.
Fantastic recording , showing how capable these 0-6-0 PT's really are . Thank you for sharing .
Hi and thank you for your kind a profound feedback. Best regards, Alan
A definite hats off to Tysley - where they really do keep their locos in 5***** condition !
Excellent capture ( as always ) !
Hi and thank you for the nice feedback. Totally agree with your comment on Tyseley. Best regards, Alan
They probably are attempting to follow the example of Newton Abbots outstandingly gleaming engines of the fifties.
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Looks like a little nice cat but the heart of a lion.
Too true! Many thanks for your comment. Regards, Alan
Great video of a gutsy little engine. Thanks.
Hello Mike and thank you for the nice feedback, very much appreciated. Best regards, Alan
Nice one. That start from Greenway Halt was awesome. Cheers, Dave.
Hi David and thank you for your kind feedback, glad you enjoyed the clip. Best regards, Alan
A sunny day, beautiful scenery, lots of steam and smoke and great sounds from a hard working pannier tank. What more does one need? Excellent video.
Thank you Keith, your kind feedback is very much appreciated. Best regards, Alan
This is one of the three heritage railways I've travelled on when visiting from Australia.
Excellent video. Great loco!!
Hello Edmund and thank you for your kind, interesting and very much appreciated comments. Best regards, Alan
Love it! 'Er got a proper rock on from Greenway, as they say yur in Dev'n.
Phil Gayton brew would be spilt!
Hi Phil: 'ansom ma luvver, tiz viddy them kand words. All the best, Alan
That little pannier is getting it haha! Nice to see one getting worked hard like it should!
I would have love to see these on the mid wales line . Storming the gradients like this . A very rugged and tough little engine much underrated
Quaaaaak quaaaaak quaaaaak quaaaaak! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeesh!
Didn't know a pannier had so much oomph!!! Great shot of her emerging through her own steam. Rock & roll!!!
Thanks once again Bob, your kind feedback is most welcome. Best regards, Alan
That was some serious grunt from Greenway halt, never seen an inside cylinder loco rocking so much.
The Pannier is surely a locomotive which delivers more than it says on the tin!
Thank you for your much valued feedback Tom. What you state is definitely true and that is why, in the B.R. era, they were posted all over the network! Regards, Alan
Ah... reminiscing here about what I DID miss when younger, and DO miss now that I'm older. Many thanks from a Paignton boy now living on an island off the west coast of Canada. Sure, I've snow-covered mountains in front of me, and fir forests all around, but, boy, do I ever miss those soft rolling hills and coombes of South Devon! I recall the SD rail service just starting up (the kids off to Churston Grammar by train). I miss the sight of steam locos over Brunel's viaducts or beside the Dart estuary. Your video of the 'Brave tank' touched me - especially as it arrives in Churston. And yet sadly I have only been on that train once, and I doubt if I ever shall do so again. Your videos give me joy and inspiration... because I am making, in N-scale, an 'active diorama' of Churston in the era when one could change for Brixham, . Just constructing what was The White House (it's now White Horse, I think), and the old stone road bridge takes my mind back many years, although I don't actually recall the trains running to Brixham. Daunted by not being able to find a 14xx and autocoach set, I had to settle for a BR 5764 model. OK, so you purists are going to tell me she didn't run from Churston to Brixham (or even south of Exeter), but i doubt anyone here will know that. So the video reassures me that I can run a pannier from Dartmouth after all to add some variety to my rather limiting station scene. Thanks, friend, for preserving the action on the rail lines for kids and grand-kids who might never otherwise see a steam loco in action...
Hello and thank you for your very kind comments and wonderful memories. I have been unable to respond to any comments for the last 4 weeks, so apologies for my apparent silence. I too am a "Pudd'n Eater" and we must be fairly contemporary therefore we have much in common as well as our love of steam and railways. As a child I sometimes travelled on the footplate of the "Brixham Whippet" because the crew were family friends. No. 1420 (allocated to Exeter in 1959) now lives at Buckfastleigh on the SDR. My grandfather was the plate-layer that looked after the track between Goodrington and Churston and he was allowed to walk the line until well after retirement. I am so glad that my video is an inspiration for your current project and I wish you joy and success as you progress. Very best regards, Alan
@@Steamclips Alan - thanks for your memories, and info. Such good recollections for you! You are envied! Oh, what is a 'plate-layer' and - from another response of yours - a 'Spam Can'? Would that be a Merchant Navy class? I'm not up on UK rail terminology. I shall be doing a presentation next month with my diorama for the local (Canadian) model RR club, and have sussed out things like 'toad' ' bloater', etc., so am having fun trying to learn new terms to tell them. No, I am not expecting a discourse... just answers to those two Q's would be appreciated, thankyou. Keep up the great work...
@@Steamclips Hello Alan - it might only be of passing interest to you, but my article and model of Churston was published in Railway Modeller, on page 823 of the November edition.
Powerful little engines them panniers . That’s 7 35ton mk1 carriages on there and it’s no problem for that little engine.
Fabulous little locomotive
Excellent video, a lot of work for a little pannier to move seven coaches from a standstill. Photographically the length of the zoom lens on the camera during the second sequence is amazing.
Hi and thank you for your kind and very much appreciated feedback. Best regards, Alan
Top Drawer footage great to see a humble pannier on the line again.
Thanks Ian, I really appreciate your kind feedback. Best regards, Alan
Great filming of a great little engine. The Panniers are great! Small but powerful. There's a lot in that small and nice front!
Hi Matt and thank you for your kind feedback. I have to agree with you; one of the unsung heroes of the GWR. Best regards, Alan
It's Duck, the Great Western Engine!
What more can you say, Excellent. Just what you expect from the Tyseley stable .
Hello Jim and thank you for your positive feedback. I quite agree with your sentiments regarding Tyseley, a highly professional outfit by all accounts. Best regards, Alan
Absolutely strolled away from Greenway Halt where a lot bigger and more powerful locos have struggled !!! Awesome
Good point John, it helps to have the weight of the water over the wheels instead of dragging behind! Thanks for your comment. Regards, Alan
I wouldn't call that a stroll. It was giving very nearly its all and was pretty impressive. The gradient here is 1 in 75, BTW, but 1 in 66 up to the tunnel. Notice how there is a little hiccup at 2:00 as the driver shifts the gear from full to (guess) 45 - 50% and has to close the regulator to do so. The advantage of a pannier is that it is light (47 tons) whereas a Castle, say, and its tender weigh 80 tons more, the equivalent of nearly 3 coaches. Thus a pannier could get this load up Hemerdon. It would need pressure well up and 55-60% cut-off and it wouldn't be quick - 8 mph is a reasonable figure and would need good driving and firing but there's no doubt it could do it These engines are monsters!
Rosie6857 Stroll as in easily walked away with no fuss,just umph!!!
(JG) I wouldn't disagree with that. :-) The man clearly knows how to drive a pannier. In my (lost) Ian Allan ABC of about 1953 there are 25 consecutive locos of this class underlined in scarlet biro, rather a novelty in those days. The locos were nos. 8750 to 8774, all at 81A and used to shift empty stock in and out of Paddington. They were the first batch of 523 identical locos with the improved cab. I rather like them despite their essential crudity. They are basically very sound. Please excuse a bit of nostalgia.
Rosie6857 Don't you get it! Im admiring it not knocking it and the way it's crewed. Just read and try take it in please.
Amazing power and adhesion from such small engines. Pulling away from Greenway standing start though with 7 on on such a little loco, that's gotta be a tube killer!
Hi Jamie, it does look (and sound) pretty impressive, especially when viewed head-on. Regards, Alan
Excellent little engines. No wonder so many were built but this one's valves have not been set right. Hence the irregular exhaust beat
1st ever train ride aged 2.....Nantwich to ironbridge with a pannier tank..1961!
Great to see some unusual traction on the Kingswear line. Loved the clip of the pannier pulling away from Greenway Halt. Keith
Hi Keith: it has certainly been entertaining to see her climbing the bank from Goodrington and covering everyones washing in soot!! brings back memories of B.R. steam. Best regards, Alan
Seven coaches... respect
fantastic footage
Hi and thank you for your kind and much appreciated feedback. Best regards, Alan
A thing of beauty!!!
Amen to that. Thank you for your valued comment. Regards, Alan
Brilliant footage Alan best things come in little parcels. video was to quick , cracking engine. Regards C&A
Hi C&A: thank you for such nice comments. I did produce a longer piece of about 12 mins but edited it down for You Tube to give it a bit more impact. The last time I saw this engine in action was at the end of this: th-cam.com/video/_x8yMSxnTvM/w-d-xo.html which is quite a while ago! so imagine my surprise when I saw it on "our" line. Best wishes, Alan
All that extra weight from the water tanks just where it’s needed!
Well put Paul, thank you for your valued comment. Regards, Alan
Cracking little smasher that!!
Hi and thank you for your valued comments. Regards, Alan
"I think I can I think I can...."
lots of coaches for such a little fellow, sounds like hes saying"i think i can .i think i can "
Am I the only one who recalls these gutsy engines pulling long rakes of ecs into Paddington? 12 or 13 coaches and having to surmount the flyover near Old Oak too.
Hello William. Sorry for the late resonse, I have been off-line for 4 weeks. The pannier is probably one of the most underestimated locos in preservation other than by the crews who actually drive them and for a pre-Churchward design to have survived up to the end of steam and beyond is remarkable. Apparently you can order a "new" one as all parts have patterns that have been re-manufactured in the preservation era! Kind regards, Alan
Cracking little engine... Tidy
Cute little bugger he is - hope to see him in real sometime!
Great shots... loved that power out of Greenway Halt up such a steep grade!!!! That pronounced waddling reminds me of riding on the YP metre gauge engines in India (I lived there for quite a while) starting a big heavy rake of carriages on expresses in Rajasthan!!!!!! Each stroke of the piston and it felt like you were heading off 45 degrees in that direction!!! Well, something a bit like that anyway :-)
Hi Hugh: it reminded me also of film of the Himalayan Mountain Railway locos. Nice to hear from you. Best regards, Alan
OMG thats a tough little shunter!
You can just hear it as it starts out, "I think I can, I think I can, I think I can....
Wow! She's powerful with 7 coaches🚂🚂
some great western grunt right there
She's a gallant little Pannier Tank Engine. No wonder she's loved by all who admire her. You should create a story to go with the video. It would win the hearts of millions far and wide. I've never seen her in reality myself, but hats off to a Brave Little Pannier Tank Engine who would do anything to please a crowd.
A very different setting from Watford tip sidings and a heavier load too!
Thanks for your valued and interesting comment John. Regards, Alan
1:50 They really do waddle...
At 1:58 notice that the regulator is shut to allow the driver to shift the reverser. With the regulator open and friction from the slide valves the lever is liable to flap all over the place and injure the driver unless fixed. Excellent video BTW.
Hi and thank you for your kind, interesting and very much appreciated comments. Best regards, Alan
L94 is really waddling like a duck as he moves
I know I can, I know I can...........
Congratulations to the crew who were able to get 7 bogies out of kingswear with that loco.
The official 'Little Engine That Could'
Amen to that Michael! thank you for your comment. Regards, Alan
She's certainly one impressive pannier tank
Hi and thank you for your comment of which I heartily agree. What is particularly nice is that the LT colour scheme looks so good against the late summer colours here at the moment. Regards, Alan
To think this loco was a regular sight and sound on the sub surface lines of the underground in the sixties , ghostly going’s on during the night as she barked her way through the tunnels of the met and district lines via Lillie bridge and Neasden and on to barking . Panniers were like a black five . Go anywhere with one .
I always love seeing steam locomotives still working
Edit: and this is the first I’ve seen footage of the engine Montague/Duck is based on
Glad you enjoyed. Thank you for your kind and much appreciated feedback. Best regards, Alan
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Lovely!
Thanks for the kind comment Mike, glad you enjoyed. Best regards, Alan
Great video mate, can't beat a pannier can you? She was definitely going for it at some point,loved seeing her rocking about as well :)
Hi and thank you for those kind words, they are very much appreciated. Best regards, Alan
Hello Alan - My grandfather told me that, early on during the war, a German plane dropped a bomb at the train as it emerged from the tunnel... it missed, but formed a crater. The farmer charged half-a-crown per carload to see it. Had you heard of this?
Hi Peter, I have not heard of this particular episode but with the Philip & Son boatyard nearby it would not surprise me as there where numerous raids, most devastating of which was on 18 Sept. 1942, resulting in the deaths of many boatyard workers and a great deal of destruction. Apparently a train carrying Eisenhower, who came to inspect American troops preparing for D-Day in the South Hams, was parked in the tunnel for security! Alan
I feel inclined to like this engine.
Join the club! Thank you for your comment. Regards, Alan
It's certainly got some balls...
Little smasher - doesn't have to be big to be beautiful.
Good comment Alistair, many thanks. Regards, Alan
1:12 Is the whistle
Duck the Great Western Engine would be proud of his little brother! As for Diesel, I expect he's sulking in the shed AGAIN...
Thanks for making me smile David! Best wishes, Alan
You obviously remember the original version of that story, namely "Duck and the Diesel Engine", as published in 1958; I prefer it to the book published in conjunction with the TV series. The front cover illustration of the original book is priceless; the snooty expression on Diesel's face! And the original also features "City of Truro" !
PS Glad I made you smile!
i saw the first second of the engine, and duck's theme came to my mind inmediately
Quite a load for a wee 3F.
.... and it shows! Thank you for your valued comment Nigel. Regards, Alan
In 1971 I was at Farringdon station to see and film the last steam working on the Underground. It was hauled by L94. You can see my 8mm film here: th-cam.com/video/2TjPdjFXImg/w-d-xo.html
Hello Charles and thank you for for your most interesting comments and fascinating film. Best regards, Alan
Hello Alan. It came as a surprise to see L94 again as I was sure it was long gone. Regards, Charles.
You captured the sight and sounds of this hard working loco very well. Can I ask what type of microphone you used?
Hi and thank you for the kind comment and question. I use a Rode Videomic fitted with a "Deadcat" windgag. Best regards, Alan
Steamclips
Thank you. I've just bought a Rode VideoMicro but haven't had a chance to use it yet.
On 1:40, 2:22 it is true, Duck does waddle! You can see it!
Magnificent display by the pannier loco, but I have good mind to report its owners to the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Steam Engines.
Hi and thank you for the fun comment. A driver once told me that pannier tanks were indestructible, so maybe they were born to a hard life! Regards, Alan
Another Great video, are you local to the Steam Railway Area?
Hello and thank you again for your kind comment. I can watch the trains on this railway from my window! Best wishes, Alan
Hi Alan, no problem. That sounds like an ideal place to live. Im also local to the railway but can't quite see the railway from my window. I live around the Cherrybrook/Hookhills area but at least its only a short walk from Broadsands. Best regards. James
Are the second and third coaches taken from a 4VEP set?
Hello Ron: sorry for the delay in answering your question. It is quite possible that the origin of the second and third coaches are from multiple units. The Dartmouth Steam Railway, as they are currently named, tend to think of practicality rather than authenticity and therefore reliable used stock is sourced from pretty well anywhere, painted chocolate & cream and even named (Pullman style)! Regards, Alan
They are ex. centre coaches from class 117 DMUs 🙂
Correct me if I’m wrong this is a related model or similar model of GWR Great Western Railway?
You are quite right Eren. A number of these ex GWR 57xx pannier tanks were sold to London Transport, re-numbered Lxx and re-painted in LT livery when BR Western Region abandoned steam in favour of diesel traction in 1963. Regards, Alan