They were always rogue.They didnt want to be part of Spain , They didnt want to be part of Mexico and they didnt want to be part of the new independent state of Central America thus a bunch of countries with lots of issues. They were very corrupt and each state didnt want to relinquish power to the other. They suffered from Lack of unity and common identity with a VERY tribal mentality.
Good video only there were some inaccuracies. #1 New Spain born Spaniards with Spanish parents were called "Criollo's" NOT Creoles. Creole is French for Criollo. #2 at the time Mexicans didn't exist as a nationality. The demographics of "New Spaniards" were Peninsular Spaniards, Criollo's, Mestizo's, Indigenous people, African slaves, Asian Slaves. #3 New Spain is Mexico's old name. Central America just like Cuba, Florida, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, Venezuela and Philippines were under New Spain territory/jurisdiction but they did not have the title of New Spain they were just provincial territories managed by New Spain since it was a "Viceroyalty" working on behalf of the Spanish Monarchy. All if it though was Spanish territory but the Viceroyalty which was Mexico was basically a substitute king for the Spanish king in the Americas. #4 Central America was already managed by New Spain so it wasn't some foreign power that took over. They fragmented into different countries I believe due to corruption of each province not wanting to give up power to the other. Central America has two independence's Spain 1821 and Mexico 1823.
Nicaragua is culturally Caribbean with South American influence so it’s just null historic info when the culture over there is more closely related with Puerto Rican and Venezuelan culture (including food)
That is not true, the problem was that the king of Spain prevented abuses from being committed against the natives and that is why the Creoles hated them.
@@JosephOntimeyou are wrong, the real reason was that while Spain was under Napoleonic rule, they wanted the king to move to México and rule the empire from México city, at first he was ok with the plan but later cancelled because he was about to get caught, therefore the national intendencia of México decided that they answered to the king only and therefore would not answer to the Spanish intendencia
@@alanmichelsandoval8768 Agustin de Iturbide was commander of the royalist army against the independence insurgency. It was not until Iturbide saw the possibility of the pepa (liberal constitution of Cadiz) being established in the empire that was the reason why he held a meeting with Vicente Guerrero, who was the last remaining insurgent leader and with an army no longer able to represent a threat against the royalist army, in that agreement they committed to achieving the independence of Mexico as a monarchy, so that the effects of said liberal constitution would not reach Mexico and in this The monarchy was established, in which the independentists and the Creole elite of Mexico were against, which is why Iturbide did not last long as emperor and the Creoles ended up winning, taking power, turning Mexico into a republic.
You are part of the black legend, to begin with. Spain never had colonies in the Americas, they were reigns or viceroyalties, they were an extension of Spain, never colonies.🎉 Viva Hispanoamerica❗️
Some important observations for better context: 1. The reason father Hidalgo, and the Catholic Church in general pushed for Mexican independence is that the French in Spain were trying to reform the Spanish colonies and separate the church from the state, create lay schools and other liberal reforms opposed by the clergy. 2. The British were also a factor, encouraging the Criollos to seek independence so they could freely trade with Mexico and avoid all the Spanish tariffs. 3. Central America agreed to join the Mexican Empire only after consulting with Spain on whether they were willing to send troops to protect the region if Mexico invaded. Spain answered saying that they expected Central America to fend for itself as they had their troops tied in the Napoleonic wars and the revolts in South America. Central America was too sparsely populated back then to have a chance to fight off a Mexican invasion so they sighed and agreed to the annexation to Mexico. 4. Central America was generally more loyal to Spain than Mexico was simply because the region had historically been the target of Dutch, French and British pirates, and the strong military presence of the Spanish Capitanía General had managed to curb down these pirates by the early 1800s and provide some safe haven for the people. So Central Americans saw Spain more as a protector than an oppressor. 5. In declaring their definitive independence in 1823 Central America was forced to accept part of Iturbide's stupid debts, thus the Central American Federation was born with zero cash on hand and a ton of debts, a fact which helped push the union to speedy collapse and disolution. 6. The other factor that led the Central American Federation to fail was the fact that the government was initially spearheaded by French inspired Liberal reformists which soon clashed in a civil war against a stiff opposition formed by the Catholic Church, much of the landed gentry, and foreign powers such as the British who still saw French revolutionary ideals with distrust.
La iglesia Católica fue un lastre para muchos países, en alguno parecía casi como una versión islámica pero a lo católico dejando al país en el atraso y la violencia, similar a África y algúnos países de medio oriente.
@@netero1682 En tus suenos mas profundos... nada que ver, y no defiendo a la iglesia, ni siquiera soy religioso... pero, cuantos hospitales hay en Africa o acueductos, o universidades, o caminos o incluso fuertes (para defenderse de los piratas no hispanos) puertos o infraestructura? en America la infraestructura hispana podemos ordenarla alfabeticamente y no terminar pronto...
@@elgronch8673 Cuando la iglesia catolica se mete en asuntos de estado lastra al pais, eso paso en el mio, se les dio mucho poder en esos asuntos y fue uno de los motivos por los que nos arrastro al atraso. A la religion se le debe de mantener lejos de la politica y las instituciones, eso incluye a la religion cristiana, catolica.
De hecho no, Hidalgo y Morelos y ningun cura que lucho en la independencia veia a la iglesia como una buena institución, Hidalgo era conocido dentro del clero como un revoltoso poco cristiano, el propio Hidalgo tradujo textos de la revolución francesa (prohibidos por el clero y el gobierno español) y hacia representaciones teatrales francesas en su casa que fue conocida como "la Francia Pequeña" cuando inició la independencia la iglesia se mostro en contra durante toda la guerra y excomulgo a Hidalgo (dos veces), Morelos y a demas curas que se unían a la causa, Morelos planteo mantenerla por tres motivos, el mismo era muy religioso, segundo no queria a la iglesia como institución pero la queria como una forma de dar alojo a servicios como salud y educación en lo que el nuevo estado pudiera darlos y tercero cohesión social, si desmontaba a la estructura clerical podria causar problemas internos y hacer que el movimiento perdiera fuerza (ese era el poder de la iglesia católica en México lo que molestaba a muchos independentistas y ese tema terminaría por explotar con la guerra de reforma
It should be mentioned that the British and freemasonry had a lot to do in Latin american countries "independecies". Central America is a geostrategic region and the british tried to occupy it since the 16th century. They only achieved to get Belize, so they decided to "divide and conquer" the Spanish Empire, because they had horrible defeats. Just search about Rafaela Herrera in Nicaragua or Blas de Lezo in Cartagena.
Yes, many do not know Freemasonry was heavily embedded into the early revolutions. Mexico itself stayed heavily influenced and is still influenced by Freemasonry.
This is an extremely so fantastic ever video which I have not known until you have uploaded it,good friends!!!Thanks for narrating the real history of the form of the Central America and long lives respectively to you and other good friends!!!👍🏾
this is the best example, in how US work behind the scenes, en orden to divide a nation and make it easier to control ( i know my write is not correct, but ingles is not my native language )
Better question is, "Why isn't this taught in our schools‽" I'm 63yrs of age and this is the first time I've heard about this. My ex-wife is Mexicana 🇲🇽 and my girlfriend is Salvadoreña 🇸🇻. Neither were aware of this detailed history. Thanks for a great presentation and history lesson ✌🏿
@@King-Ghidora As is/was most of the history that was taught in our schools. The general subject was something that I wasn't aware of. Thanks though 👍🏿
There's way too much history to cover in World History. And it isn't as relevant to US History or Western Culture in the grand scheme of things. However, we can all be more inquisitive about our world and pick up a book every now and then ;)
A nice bit of trivia. El Salvador refused to join the Mexican empire, therefore they were forcefully anexed after a short war. Being the only country to have been invaded by Mexico.
Costa Rica (The poorest country in Central America) was the only one that benefited from the dissolution of the Mexican empire! We were left alone by both Spain and Mexico so we could figure out our government style without pressure or incompetences caused by classism. We were all poor and even creoles, spaniards and native Americans had to work the land together to survive. Today we all know the results Though never perfect Costa Rica is a beacon of peaceful democracy in the whole World
I think he wanted to say that Costa Rica WAS the poorest country back then. Since we weren't allowed to trade freely with Panama (since it was part of Gran Colombia at that time), we were limited to grow our economy, and our huge distance from Guatemala made us difficult to reach resources.
As a Guatemalan the reason why Mexico and Guatemala is not one country is because of the history and the ethnicities of each countries are different. The people of Guatemala are mostly descendants of the maya. While Mexico was mixed with the Spanish and also integrating themselves with the indigenous Aztecs and Olmec people of Mexico.
that’s not why they’re not one country lol. The state of Chiapas and Guatemala are both very Mayan but Chiapas is part of Mexico. Same as if Central America was still a country Guatemala would be very mayan state but it doesn’t matter because many countries are diverse rather than homogeneous.
@@katjerouac actially the real reason that central america is no longer part of Mexico is because of internal strife, little to no interest of the central government to develope the area at that time, the diverse goals each regional government of the capitania general of guatemala had, and the fact that after some time central americans wanted to try and rule themselves as the republic of central america but, such country collapsed by in fightining. Afterwards mexico was seen by them as too weak and problematic after the U.S beated them and therefore thought they would be better off by themselves, with the exception of the state of Chiapas that remained as part of Mexico because it was better connected and most of its trade was with the nearby mexican cities anyway.
No Chiapas was never part of Guatemala. Guatemala wasnt even a country they were provincial provinces of New Spain. So when New Spain became independent they were annexed to the Mexican empire. When the empire dissolved Chiapas stayed with Mexico and the rest decided to get Mexican independence and form their country "Central America" then they broke up into many countries. Chiapas stayed with Mexico since the independence of Spain and has stayed there since.
Guatemela’s been around along with other modern day areas like Cuba and Colombia since the 1500s. Central America is a part of the Caribbean just like Belize, Haiti, and Puerto Rico are. what’s happened for 2 years in the past is history, but it’s important to realize how diverse the Caribbean islands, Central America, and South America are
Briefly, but only because tbe sponsors of Iturbide wanted a monarchy, as they knew of no other form of government. The administration of the newly minted Mexico was a carryover from its days as New Spain. With that came the lands north and south of present day Mexico. Chiapas was indeed part of the Guatemalan captaincy but I am unclear whether it was another region like Honduras or Nicaragua or an actual part of Guatemala proper. The fact that the Captaincy of Guatemala or central America held a plebiscite asking their residents if they wished to remain with Mexico and that Chiapas said "I'm staying", leads me to believe that Chiapas was like Honduras.
@@gunnasintern Mexico is also part of the Caribbean since the Yucatan is in the Caribbean. Actually Mexico is closer to Cuba than Central America. Mexico also has Caribbean cuisine really great Mexican seafood.
I believe youre right. People underestimate how much can a jungle chance things; the southern jungle Is the actual n1 reasson México stops where It does It and why It has never tried to change It since. Its a natural barrier, while Cuba was perfectly accesible for Méxican and viceversa before therevolutionary isolationist regime. Nowadays we still relate to cubans but Its More of an old thing, like something of people who were already here in the 60's
It’s actually a shame that no one knows the true history of Iturbide- including this video. All the info presented here and what’s been “taught” through the decades is an amalgamation of distorted facts. The true historical facts lie within Mexico’s archives, and have been slowly coming out to light brought on by archival historical researchers. A good primer for this study and results of this research , with actual sources, has been published and posted on several outlets. This link is of particular detail on the specifics left out on this video: th-cam.com/video/4HFBg8u_nvo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2Dl6DxQclKRi_XcA
Would it be too much trouble to leave a relevant date (even just a year) in the corner of the frame throughout the whole video? I've noticed you have a tendency to say the dates first, but I can't seem to remember them unless I have some relevant information to attach to them first.
Great video! Love your platform. It’s a shame history is not taught anymore and underscores why the world feels hopeless in not repeating past mistakes.
Iturbide should have followed the example set by George Washington. After the Revolutionary War, people told Washington he could make himself king. Washington dismissed that idea, saying, "We didn't fight a war just to replace a king with another king." Washington didn't even want to be president, but accepted the role in order to set the foundations for federal government in America, and only accepted two terms. If Iturbide hadn't acted so imperial, the Central Republic might have remained with Mexico.
Very few people would have done what Washington did. Including most in the US. If one of the other founding fathers were in that position, who knows what would have happened.
“Saw their chance to overthrow the Spanish rulers at home” but then they offered to make the former king of Spain the king of Mexico? They were fighting the French backed Spanish government because they didn’t like the idea of being ruled by the French.
By that time, the establishment in Mexico was fighting against a liberal Spanish constitution that came into place while Spain was fighting off the French. The French were already gone
Wow and no. The elite upper class knew of no other form of government and were scared of a government that included the lower social classes. That is why they asked general Iturbide (who had no nobility in his blood) to become emperor of Mexico. It lasted less than a decade.
The bigger why Is because the jungle in the south of México That divides It from central América, we have never been great with the jungle Hence why that's the only region that has consistently mantainer insurgentes. México has then felt quite confortable having the jungle as a divisory line for Itself. Because of that Is way More probable to see the south of the US returning to México than central América, in The North there's a continuity that Is absent in the south. As a Northern Mexican I can tell you that many of us feel way closer to Mexican Americans in southern US than to actual southern Mexicans
@@leonake4194Definitely, as a Mexican-American, but more importantly a Tejano! Most likely because us Mexican-Americans came from Norteños in Mexico. My family came from Monterrey, over 120 years ago into Texas. History is crazy, yet somehow my grandmothers side is Mayan, which indicates that a one point in time they moved from Southern Mexico, before or after Spain into Northern Mexico, perhaps the cause was the War.
Funny thing, Costa Rica tried to join the empire even fought brief civil war that caused the capital to be moved from Cartago to San José and the empire collapsed before that conflict ended and we hadn’t even realized. We take it for granted now but Costa Rica was pretty hard to reach, most of our southern border is practically impassable due to the Talamanca mountain range (if that wasn’t enough the southern border of Panama is even worse) and on the northern border you could really only enter through Guanacaste which is the driest region and its wilderness isn’t exactly kind.
Ah, someone at last who knows detailed history! Really, if I had basic video edition skills, I would make a video about how actually Central America in its totality was NO part of Mexico, especially Costa Rica.
@@azarishiba2559 I don’t blame them, Centralamerican history is very messy from the date independence to the end of the republic. After that each country became more separate from each other so the history is a lot easier to track and there’s less conflictive points of view. Heck people don’t even know how much Costa Rica’s borders have changed in history. Nicoya (most of Guanacaste + some of Puntarenas) used to be its own country but we merged and Greater Colombia took Bocas del Toro from us (which I’m a little salty about, that region is beautiful)
@@sspectre8217 Well, that's true. Even Costa Rican history after Independence is quite complicated. The Annexation of Guanacaste is also more complicated than we are thought: at first Nicoya and Santa Cruz did join Costa Rica happily, but Guanacaste (present Liberia) DIDN'T. It was not after the bandit Manuel Quijano, who was tormeting the whole province, was defeated that Guanacaste started to just mellow to the idea of being part of Costa Rica, and they finally accepted after 1856 National Campaign against the filibusteros.
0:18 Just a heads up, in the map you include the South American Spanish territories as part of New Spain, but they were a different viceroyalty altogether, first the Viceroyalty of Peru, which would later be divided to add the Viceroyalties of Nueva Granada and Rio de la Plata; none of these were part of the Viceroyalty of New Spain.
Central America IS already part of Mexico: Tabasco, Chiapas, Campeche, the Yucatan, Quintana Roo, are all regionally Central American, and the people are probably closer related to the people of Central America, rather than to those far north in Sonora, Chihuahua, and Coahuilla.
@@RobustkyGuerrerosAncestralesYou are right about Mexico being entirely within the North American place, which ends in Honduras, where it meets the Caribbean plate. But parts of southern Mexico are more Central American in terms of culture, accent, food, etc. Like Central American countries, southern Mexico uses more rice in their diet than corn tortillas, and uses less spicy food than northern parts of Mexico.
Actually you’re right! Southern Mexico have more in common with Central America in culture and especially in food. Most southern states wrap their tamales in banana leafs rather than corn, they also eat more fried plantains like Guatemala and El Salvador You’re average Chiapas breakfast almost looks like something people from El Salvador would eat in the morning Plus, some regions of Chiapas and Yucatan use Vos instead of tu
@@ER805IK Creoles isn't criollos when translated. Creoles exist in Spanish and wasn't used to refer to spanish born in America. Also this video is filled with even worse mistakes or innacuracies especially when it comes to the independece process.
Iturbide: "And we declare indepence from your monarchy, Spain!" Mexico: *loud applause* Iturbide: "And now it is time for MY Monarchy, Mexico." Mexico: *awkward uncomfortable applause*
Joel Robert's poinset got iturbide removed because he wouldn't sell the northern part of mexico, the u.s. wanted that land since it was owned by Spain.
I don't know if your research was incomplete or you just passed it by but the Capitanía general de centroamerica, while nominally dependent from the virreinato de Nueva España was largely autonomous and did not become independent when Mexico did, it was a bit later. You just seemed to gloss over that. Basically your history is about Mexico and not Central America, should have that in the title.
Great video. I wish you would have gone into a little more depth as to why the Cental American Republic split back up right after speaking to the USA in the 40s.
I am: 50% Spaniard 13% Portuguese 7% French 4% Basque 26% indigenous Mexican. Although my maternal grandmother was born in Guadalajara, family roots go to where Mesa AZ, is now.
@Xxxxxxxbj Because according to them you stole that land, so they are still entitled to it. And they are in the process of breeding you out, and the part of land that was stolen from them will be taken back.
The Province of San Salvador didn't accept the annexation and fought hard against Mexican and Guatemalan troops, but was finally defeated in February 1823, but in May that same year, the people revolted and pushed out the Mexican troops and their Guatemalan commander out of the Province back into Guatemala. The people of Central America rewarded the Salvadorean General Manuel José Arce, who fought hardest against the Mexican annexation by electing him as the first president of the United Central American Provinces.
Central America is also Caribbean region that has South American influence. it has more in common with cultures like Cuba and Colombia so yeah that’s why, because Central America is a part of the Caribbean, but has South American influence like its food (arepas, ceviche, plantains, yuca, etc) and other things such as music too
@@gunnasintern Just like in Colombia there are differences in Central America depending on State. Guatemala is a little more like Mexico also with some Cuban immigration, El Salvador is the quintessential Centralamerican country politicially speaking and they are the cultural bridge between Guatemala and the rest of C.A. Honduras and Nicaragua are similar to Cuba and Colombia because of the caribbean coast and they represent the average Centralamerican. Finally Costa Rica mostly just takes from Colombia but all in all Central America has a culture of its own despite differences like in any other country.
@@gunnasintern LOL...The Mexican Yucatan Peninsula is virtually in the Caribbean, 120 miles from Cuba, the closest than any of The Central American country. Honduras is 705 miles from Cuba, 625 miles from Jamaica, and the same for Nicaragua. El Salvador faces the Pacific Ocean, and so does the majority of Guatemala.🤣🤣
As a Mexican I am personally glad that those countries are not part of Mexico just as I am happy Texas and California are also no longer Mexican. I love my country exactly as it is. I would not like it any other way. 😊
Another thing is that they would be horribly underdeveloped states if they were still part of our country, I can guarantee. Now, the northern portion taken by the US, to be honest I would definitely like it to be part of Mexico today, although it doesn't mean they would be exactly as they are now. I'd like at least Arizona and California to be ours, since they're the 2 US states I relate the most, I am going to California this weekend and will try to visit the Sequoia National Park and it makes me imagine how cool it would be for others to be able to visit without a stupid Visa. Anyways...
@@The_Recycler You say that but if you travel to Texas and Cali and look around they might as well be Mexico at this point. Soon the majority of the population will be Latino. 😅 I've been living in Texas the past few months and it feels just like home. I reckon that you don't need a to know a single word of english to live comfortably in Texas... I hope Trump continues with his wall ASAP
What would happen if the 7 central american coubtries formed a new Republic and each country was a state, like a mini USA? Where would their Washington DC be? What would be the political and economic implications of such a union?
That ain't gonna happen. Each of then has gone their own way since then. Costa Rica and Panama are among the most prosperous of them. Costa Rica has a unique political system as one of the most stable and most developed elective republics in the region. Costa Rica had been the one that tends to be viewed politically as the Switzerland of the region.
@@rahuliyer7456 At that time, Costa Rica was considered the poorest region in the whole spanish empire, according to its own governor. Politically it had dependency with Nicaragua, and if the elite from Costa Rica wanted better education, they had to go to Nicaragua (if they had better resources, to Guatemala, Mexico, or perhaps Spain) as there was no higher education institution (the first one was founded in 1983, Universidad de Santo Tomás). Taking that in account, it seems that independency was the correct answer for Costa Rica.
A few details: Creoles is an American word from Louisiana. The proper word is Criollo. Hence the images for the Criollos throughout the video are incorrect as they don’t t portray Spanish descendants born in the New Spain but Louisiana’s Creoles. The mixed background mentioned says Indigenous, Spanish and Mexican at minute 2:22… Saying “Mexican” at that moment is incorrect. The mixed background was indigenous from different cultures: Aztecs, Tlaxcaltecas, Mayas, etc, Spanish and Africans mostly but not only. The map colored in yellow is incomplete, as the territories were organized in structures called Viceroyalties “Virreinatos) with the portion of central America and the northern countries of South America belonging to the New Granade, not New Spain. The map is also excluding Belize, which has another interesting history regarding its colonial past and the times around the independence movements of the American continent. Excellent topic and the discussion below is indeed adding to it.
There were other Mexican states that wanted to seperate and become independent from Mexico but because they were in the middle of Mexico, they didn't let them. Its alot easier the farther away you are in this case the tale of Mexico to seperate,which happened. 😊
Im from chiapas and we are basicly a little self governed region in mexico supported by mexico and its pretty much, they act differant they are differant
I mean isnt every state in Mexico very proud of their uniqueness? You think Chiapas is different? Chiapas has more in common with states like Puebla and Guerrero than Puebla and Guerrero have with Northern Mexican states
Chiapas was not a province of Guatemala, it was a province of Central America in New Spain. When Central America Federalized in 1823 Chiapas stayed with Mexico.
@@katjerouac Chiapas was part of Guatemala and left Mexico along with Guatemala but Chiapas wanted out and left Guatemala and the rest of the gang to returned to Mexico and became a Mexican state in 1824.
The map used in the videos is incorrect. The territory of New Spain, which included all the territories north of Panama, the Caribean islands and the Phillipines became independent from Spain in 1821. Eventually, the island territories went their own way, either by declaring their own independence or again by being conquered by another nation (Phillipines by the US). The remaining territories of New Spain in the majnland were made up by Mexico and the Captaincy of Guatemala. The map suggests that Belize or British Honduras was always under the control of the U.K.. That is not so, as the UK conquered Belize in 1862, more than 40 years after its' independence from Spain. The viceroyalty of New Spain extended from north of present day Panama to into present day US state of Oregon, the Caribean islands and the Phillipines. South of Costa Rica and into the northern part of South America made up the Viceroyalty of New Granada and not as the map shown in the video. Panama never formed part of the Viceroyalty of New Spain, as it was part of New Granada and later on as part of Colombia. Mexico did hold dominion over Central América, but after a few years of this union, a plebiscite was held asking the inhabitants of Central America if they wished to remain with Mexico and as a result the union was disolved. It should be noted, that as a result of this plebiscite, the state of Chiapas (which was part of Guatemala) decided to remain with Mexico. In essence, the area known as Central America extended from the border of Panama, all the way to Mexicos' state of Chiapas.
And in 1798 Spain actually sent an invasion force to invade British Honduras known as present day Belize. The battle of St. Georges Caye it was called. The Spanish lost and never again tried to invade Belize
0:15 Just a clarification. Don't confuse the viceroyalty of New Spain with Mexico. These countries became independent from both the Spanish empire and Mexico almost at the same time that Mexico achieved its independence from Spain.
This vid completely filled with wrong info and omissions. Sad story for the "Iron dragon" Emperor. He was not spending money on himself. The previous rebellion from his cousin de Hidalgo the priest. Left major and important infrastructure in ruins. Agustin formed a congress however congress was focus on how to over through him. He disbanded form another congress, later this congress negated him to abdicate and force him to exile on the count of death if he return. He could have easily went to war with the ones that proclaimed him emperor, since he had full support of the army and the lower class. He did not want more blood shed between mexicans. While in exile he heard of a plan from Spain to reconquer Mexico and decided to warn and raised and army in defense. However when he arrived he was order to be executed and his warning were un answer couple months later spain sent out an army from cuba to reconquer Mexico.
it’s cause the rest of Central America are culturally Caribbean with South American influences. places like Costa Rica and Guatemala are more closely linked with Cuba and Colombia, and have been for centuries. they were always treated as their own unique areas even when they were a part of New Spain
@@gunnasintern As a colombian, I think all of Costa Rica, the caribbean coasts of Nicaragua and Honduras and obviously all of Panamá would fit quite well within Colombia. The central and western parts of Nicaragua, Honduras and all of El Salvador and Guatemala feel more "southern mexican" to me.
The whole theory that the indigenous original groups of western coastal Nicaragua are descendants from Aztecs is an unproven myth. “Haplogoup C1 for example, is found in high frequencies in indigenous Mexicans and at lower frequencies in El Salvador and Guatemala, whereas in Nicaragua and Costa Rica it is absent, reflecting the Chibchan origins of some Nicaraguan lineages since the Chibcha lack this haplogroup as well.” Quoted from research paper.
0:41 I see a historical inaccuracy with the borders. Guatemala owned more of southern Mexico. I will come back and delete this comment if I see this issue fixed later in the video haha
Part of Central America stayed with Mexico after the Mexican empire dissolved meaning it never formed part of the independent Central America so when Guatemala's borders were formed "chiapas" was already a part of Mexico.
@@hope2bhelpful95 Guatemala and most of Central America belonged to Mexico even when Mexico New Spain is Mexico old name. Guatemala wasnt new spain just provincial territory of New Spain aka Mexico. all that was part of its territory. that's why Guatemala and Central America have Mexican independence. becasue Mexico gave Central America their independence otherwise Mexico would just have kept
Regarding Costa Rica, they are doing fairly well as an independent country. Been there many times. It's a great place if you want to relocate outside of USA. They are relatively prosperous. Please call the country of the Ticos as "Coasta Rica", not "Cahsta Rica". These are the phonetic pronunciations. As far as me, expect to find me somewhere in Latin America. Maybe in Central America somewhere.
Costa Rica is really nice and shows how Central American culture is Caribbean at its core with South American influence. you really get the best of both worlds over there
The truth being the Viceroyalty of New Spain included Mexico, Central America and other territories, and when Mexico got its independence, they should have demanded even the Philippines, but no, they settled for just México, something I never understood. Iturbide was kind enough to even invite Central America to join them to voluntarily annex.
Actually mexico is the u.s.a dad that the us wanted to be to superior to its dad so bad it played super dirty and robbed him and took the glory for itself dad has been in prison ever since but is soon to be released and make a comeback 😅
El Salvador is definitely the heart and soul of Central America. A small country but very resilient against their bigger neighbors especially against Guatemala and the Mexican empire invasions of 1821-1822. I can see why El Salvador wanted to be part of USA as a state in 1822 because of their bullying neighbors.
No one was bullying them, El Salvador was just different politically, they were Republicans and Mexico was more faithful to the Vatican and the church, thus making Mexicans of that time hardcore religious people and faithful to the Catholic crown. You can definitely see it even today on how many Catholics Mexico has compared to El Salvador.
the Central American countries are generally more closely tied with Caribbean and South American culture because of its close ties to those regions. what El Salvador went through is sad, at the same time it happened because of political different which usually relates to corruption
Mexico was never a colony of Spain. Mexico was a reign. Many people don't understand the difference. Also, at the time when this happened, Simon Bolivar and the Colombians posed a significant threat to Mexico. Mexico was in bad shape, it had been in war with no money and no enough army to defend the territory. So the government decided to give Centro America freedom and used them as buffer zone. Something about Centro America which wildly odd is that they celebrate independence from Spain at the same date than Mexico which largely inaccurate being that 1. they became independent from Mexico. 2. at a different date.
@fanatik9590 Not really, Mexico had just gain independence from Spain in a war that lasted 10 years. Mexico didn't have the money or the army to fight for Centro America. The threat to Northern Mexico happened 40 years after
He skipped Mexicos invasion of El Salvador witch preceded the voting and added to aristocratic hostilitys causing them to vote agianst Mexico, The Mexicans sieged San Salvador in the city named Mejicanos named after Mexican Native settelers during the Spanish invasion, Fun Fact The national Dish of El Salvador is a modern version of the Gordita and the tribe speak and are descendants of the Nahuatl tribe witch the Aztec/Mexica belong to.
Incorrect, El Salvador had the HEAVIEST resistance to the annexation thus is why Pro-Annexation Guatemalan & Mexican forces invaded El Salvador and went to war with Salvadoran forces …. They successfully sieged the capital of San Salvador the same month the Imperio Mexicano collapsed so El Salvador never really was apart of the Mexican Empire And “mejicanos “ is a neighborhood in San Salvador named after the last battle fought between forces where the Mexicans forces lost and surrendered to the Salvadorans forces declaring Salvadoran victory
@@rabioramos1796No, The Capital Mejicanos area was named by the Spaniards after the tribes they settled their, hence the spelling,And the soldiers were Guatamalan lead by a Mexican general, El Salvador never made Mexico surrender lmao.
@@BernieSanders-bn5dk yes they did 🤦🏽♂️ , they literally made a whole neighborhood dedicated to their win … and incorrect idk where you getting all this information from but the army consisted of Mexican and Guatemalan allied forces
@@rabioramos1796 Yeah that's one of the places the Mexicans laid siege to the capital from, The area already had the name Mejicanos given to it by Spains allied conquerors who were natives from the Central valley named Valley of Mexico.
If it weren't for MEXICO fighting and defeating the Spanish army all of central america would still be (Nueva Espana). MEXICO was the ONLY country to have the balls and heart to take on the Spanish army and send them back to Europe. Viva MEXICO cabrones! 🇲🇽💯
@México926 the rest of Latin America wasn't considered (Nueva Espana) like Mexico and central america were. But MEXICO fought 10 years and defeated the Spanish army this giving freedom to everyone in the region
@@rabioramos1796 what are you talking about? Y'all didn't gain independence until 1821 after the Mexican Spanish war was over. Y'all salvadorans make up your own history out your ass it's not even funny. Read and educate yourself
I always thought of them as a different type of Mexican, they really should just be that because it's easiest and less steerage. They all are basically the same and should love that.
In my fantasy map, Spanish America consists of just six countries: Mexico Guatemala aka Central America Gran Colombia Peru-Bolivia (as per the brief confederation) Argentina (with Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay joined) The Antillean Confederation (Cuba, DR, Puerto Rico)
The funny thing, while the Province of San Salvador was fighting the Mexico-Guatemalan army against annexation, it sent a delegation to Washington proposing to become a part of the Unites States rather than Mexico, but the US congress turned them down saying they didn't want to confront Mexico. At that time Mexico could have bested the US hands tied.
@@hugosalazar5362 the invasion was not 4 annexation, but punitive in nature, Iturbide was a jack*** got rid of him & Mex set you all free to choose your path. E.S. Asked 2X to be a state, they were not wanted.
@fanatik9590 you and I weren't there, pal, so we can't be a 100% sure, but that's why we go to school, that's why we read and investigate. If you don't trust Mexican and Salvadorean history books or any other history book, for that matter, I don't know what to tell you. Besides, why would Salvadorans make up a lie that Mexico annexed it by force?
@fanatik9590 Méxican and Guatemalan forces fought, defeated, annexed San Salvador province by force of arms, but three months later, the people revolted, fought , defeated, and pushed them out of that province. The Mexican commander was General Vicente Filísola, sent by Emperor Iturbide himself to subdue the Province of San Salvador because of their refusal to annex to the Mexican Empire. The Guatemalan commander who was left in charge of the Mexico-Guatemalan occupation forces in San Salvador was General Felipe Codallos. It's all in the books, and it's no invention. Of course, the rebel province of San Salvador wasn't what El Salvador as a country is now because in 1824 it got another portion of land from Guatemala.
@fanatik9590 Salvadoreans and Mexicans started their relation on the wrong foot, but now they're the best of friends. In fact, we Salvadoreans owe so much to the Mexican people and their government. When there are natural disasters in our country, Mexico's the first to send aid. We also have an excellent diplomatic relation with Mexico and the Mexicans are so kind to let us through their territory when travelling uninvited to your northern neighbour.
Hidalgo never declare Mexico independence all he did was to proclaim loyalty to King Ferdinand instead of King Charles IV or Napoleon's brother Joseph. At the end of his run he declare himself a messiah and started loosing faith with his people.
facts… Central America is a part of the Caribbean just like the islands and Northern South America. Puerto Rican, Salvadoran, and Venezuelan culture/food should be cherished for how unique they are while also being linked (plantains, yuca, etc)
@theawesomeman What do u mean Central America for Central Americans? Central America is not a country, dummy. Its like saying North America for North Americans lol. Makes no sense.
Mexico liberated ALL of the New Spain, Mexico put all the blood during the 11 years war with Spain. Central americans cowardly didn´t put 1 soldier. Mexico generously allowed each region to be independent of part of Mexico.
Feel like a lot of Central America problems would be solved if El Salvador, Nicaragua, Honduras, and Guatemala formed the republic again
They were always rogue.They didnt want to be part of Spain , They didnt want to be part of Mexico and they didnt want to be part of the new independent state of Central America thus a bunch of countries with lots of issues. They were very corrupt and each state didnt want to relinquish power to the other. They suffered from Lack of unity and common identity with a VERY tribal mentality.
yeah, the Republic of Cartel Controled Nations lmao...
this guy xD omg
@@sergiokaminotanjo An ignorant comment. El Salvador has lower homicide rates than any country in North and South America.
What about Costs Rica?
@@Waydisturbed What about it?
It's funny because when i tell people I'm from Honduras i often get asked "what part of Mexico is that?" 😂
Don’t leave us hanging, what part of Mexico?
@@johnnyblaze184 😂
@johnnyblaze184 is just like texas but on southern Mexico Hahaha
@@waldourbina1258 are y'all reading my life?! I was born in Texas 💀
a former part :)
Thanks for this. Greetings from Baja California, México.
Our pleasure!
@@Charlie-phlezk ¡HOLA! Saludos para todos desde el norte de México.
Hola Amiga que ciudad en Baja California?
@@esteveking7135 Soy de Tijuana pero actualmente vivo en San Pedro Mártir. ¿Y tú?
@edyann hola amiga hace mucho en hablar contigo. Espero que estés muy bien.
Good video only there were some inaccuracies. #1 New Spain born Spaniards with Spanish parents were called "Criollo's" NOT Creoles. Creole is French for Criollo. #2 at the time Mexicans didn't exist as a nationality. The demographics of "New Spaniards" were Peninsular Spaniards, Criollo's, Mestizo's, Indigenous people, African slaves, Asian Slaves. #3 New Spain is Mexico's old name. Central America just like Cuba, Florida, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, Venezuela and Philippines were under New Spain territory/jurisdiction but they did not have the title of New Spain they were just provincial territories managed by New Spain since it was a "Viceroyalty" working on behalf of the Spanish Monarchy. All if it though was Spanish territory but the Viceroyalty which was Mexico was basically a substitute king for the Spanish king in the Americas. #4 Central America was already managed by New Spain so it wasn't some foreign power that took over. They fragmented into different countries I believe due to corruption of each province not wanting to give up power to the other. Central America has two independence's Spain 1821 and Mexico 1823.
Also the Spanish had the caste system: Such as White peninsular, White criollo, mestizo, zambo....
Spain NEVER had colonies.
Venezuela was part of Nueva granada not of nueva España.
@@jsollosoof course it did, you can call a piece of crap chocolate but is still crap, just as vicerroyalties are still colonies.
@@rauricalde4475 Venezuela is not in Central America.
I once tried to tell a Nicaraguan that Nicaragua used to be apart of Mexico and he said thats not true 😂
They’re very salty about their independence 😂
Nicaragua is culturally Caribbean with South American influence so it’s just null historic info when the culture over there is more closely related with Puerto Rican and Venezuelan culture (including food)
@@gunnasintern Fun fact! Mexico is also part of the Caribbean especially the Yucatan peninsula!😃🌴
I can see biased on this history how that might be the Nicaraguan perspective. We're they ever even truly governed?
@@dennisdipasquale4927 not necessarily many people I know have come from Nicaragua seeking asylum.
I lived in Costa Rica for 9 years and I wish I could go back to stay forever. It's a beautiful country and most of the people are great.
PURA VIDA
Muy cierto...
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If Spain didn’t treat its Mexican born Spanish with such low esteem. It might have kept their loyalty.
That is not true, the problem was that the king of Spain prevented abuses from being committed against the natives and that is why the Creoles hated them.
@@JosephOntimeyou are wrong, the real reason was that while Spain was under Napoleonic rule, they wanted the king to move to México and rule the empire from México city, at first he was ok with the plan but later cancelled because he was about to get caught, therefore the national intendencia of México decided that they answered to the king only and therefore would not answer to the Spanish intendencia
@@alanmichelsandoval8768 Agustin de Iturbide was commander of the royalist army against the independence insurgency. It was not until Iturbide saw the possibility of the pepa (liberal constitution of Cadiz) being established in the empire that was the reason why he held a meeting with Vicente Guerrero, who was the last remaining insurgent leader and with an army no longer able to represent a threat against the royalist army, in that agreement they committed to achieving the independence of Mexico as a monarchy, so that the effects of said liberal constitution would not reach Mexico and in this The monarchy was established, in which the independentists and the Creole elite of Mexico were against, which is why Iturbide did not last long as emperor and the Creoles ended up winning, taking power, turning Mexico into a republic.
You are part of the black legend, to begin with.
Spain never had colonies in the Americas, they were reigns or viceroyalties, they were an extension of Spain, never colonies.🎉 Viva Hispanoamerica❗️
Loyalty maybe, but the empire got taken over by Napoleon and a broke empire can't sustain their mandate on the colonies.
Wonderful video, great to see this region being covered ❤
Some important observations for better context:
1. The reason father Hidalgo, and the Catholic Church in general pushed for Mexican independence is that the French in Spain were trying to reform the Spanish colonies and separate the church from the state, create lay schools and other liberal reforms opposed by the clergy.
2. The British were also a factor, encouraging the Criollos to seek independence so they could freely trade with Mexico and avoid all the Spanish tariffs.
3. Central America agreed to join the Mexican Empire only after consulting with Spain on whether they were willing to send troops to protect the region if Mexico invaded. Spain answered saying that they expected Central America to fend for itself as they had their troops tied in the Napoleonic wars and the revolts in South America. Central America was too sparsely populated back then to have a chance to fight off a Mexican invasion so they sighed and agreed to the annexation to Mexico.
4. Central America was generally more loyal to Spain than Mexico was simply because the region had historically been the target of Dutch, French and British pirates, and the strong military presence of the Spanish Capitanía General had managed to curb down these pirates by the early 1800s and provide some safe haven for the people. So Central Americans saw Spain more as a protector than an oppressor.
5. In declaring their definitive independence in 1823 Central America was forced to accept part of Iturbide's stupid debts, thus the Central American Federation was born with zero cash on hand and a ton of debts, a fact which helped push the union to speedy collapse and disolution.
6. The other factor that led the Central American Federation to fail was the fact that the government was initially spearheaded by French inspired Liberal reformists which soon clashed in a civil war against a stiff opposition formed by the Catholic Church, much of the landed gentry, and foreign powers such as the British who still saw French revolutionary ideals with distrust.
Also the neither the USA or the British wanted a united central america since they forsaw it could serve as land bridge and canal between continents.
La iglesia Católica fue un lastre para muchos países, en alguno parecía casi como una versión islámica pero a lo católico dejando al país en el atraso y la violencia, similar a África y algúnos países de medio oriente.
@@netero1682 En tus suenos mas profundos... nada que ver, y no defiendo a la iglesia, ni siquiera soy religioso... pero, cuantos hospitales hay en Africa o acueductos, o universidades, o caminos o incluso fuertes (para defenderse de los piratas no hispanos) puertos o infraestructura? en America la infraestructura hispana podemos ordenarla alfabeticamente y no terminar pronto...
@@elgronch8673 Cuando la iglesia catolica se mete en asuntos de estado lastra al pais, eso paso en el mio, se les dio mucho poder en esos asuntos y fue uno de los motivos por los que nos arrastro al atraso. A la religion se le debe de mantener lejos de la politica y las instituciones, eso incluye a la religion cristiana, catolica.
De hecho no, Hidalgo y Morelos y ningun cura que lucho en la independencia veia a la iglesia como una buena institución, Hidalgo era conocido dentro del clero como un revoltoso poco cristiano, el propio Hidalgo tradujo textos de la revolución francesa (prohibidos por el clero y el gobierno español) y hacia representaciones teatrales francesas en su casa que fue conocida como "la Francia Pequeña" cuando inició la independencia la iglesia se mostro en contra durante toda la guerra y excomulgo a Hidalgo (dos veces), Morelos y a demas curas que se unían a la causa, Morelos planteo mantenerla por tres motivos, el mismo era muy religioso, segundo no queria a la iglesia como institución pero la queria como una forma de dar alojo a servicios como salud y educación en lo que el nuevo estado pudiera darlos y tercero cohesión social, si desmontaba a la estructura clerical podria causar problemas internos y hacer que el movimiento perdiera fuerza (ese era el poder de la iglesia católica en México lo que molestaba a muchos independentistas y ese tema terminaría por explotar con la guerra de reforma
It should be mentioned that the British and freemasonry had a lot to do in Latin american countries "independecies". Central America is a geostrategic region and the british tried to occupy it since the 16th century. They only achieved to get Belize, so they decided to "divide and conquer" the Spanish Empire, because they had horrible defeats. Just search about Rafaela Herrera in Nicaragua or Blas de Lezo in Cartagena.
Yes, many do not know Freemasonry was heavily embedded into the early revolutions. Mexico itself stayed heavily influenced and is still influenced by Freemasonry.
Well at least if the British had succeeded all the illegals crossing into America would be speaking English.
Nunca lo va a mencionar porque es un canal anglo y los anglos apoyan a los masones y a los zionistas, son anti catolicos.
Stop blaspheming Rafaela Herrera! She’s regarded a national here here in Nicaragua 🇳🇮❤
The usa civil war was a conflict involving these factions
This is an extremely so fantastic ever video which I have not known until you have uploaded it,good friends!!!Thanks for narrating the real history of the form of the Central America and long lives respectively to you and other good friends!!!👍🏾
Central America and Northern South America are Caribbean
@@gunnasintern nobody cares!!!🤣 and Central America is a region 🤣you wannabe!😂
this is the best example, in how US work behind the scenes, en orden to divide a nation and make it easier to control ( i know my write is not correct, but ingles is not my native language )
amazing production quality, how did i not stumble over this channel sooner?
Better question is, "Why isn't this taught in our schools‽" I'm 63yrs of age and this is the first time I've heard about this. My ex-wife is Mexicana 🇲🇽 and my girlfriend is Salvadoreña 🇸🇻. Neither were aware of this detailed history.
Thanks for a great presentation and history lesson ✌🏿
Careful, there are lots of inaccuracies in the video.
@@King-Ghidora As is/was most of the history that was taught in our schools. The general subject was something that I wasn't aware of. Thanks though 👍🏿
Is because you didn't pay attention in your elementary class years
There's way too much history to cover in World History. And it isn't as relevant to US History or Western Culture in the grand scheme of things. However, we can all be more inquisitive about our world and pick up a book every now and then ;)
A nice bit of trivia. El Salvador refused to join the Mexican empire, therefore they were forcefully anexed after a short war. Being the only country to have been invaded by Mexico.
Thanks for answering the question in the first 30 seconds. Now I can proceed to the next video.
I am happy to know more about history.Thanks!
Costa Rica (The poorest country in Central America) was the only one that benefited from the dissolution of the Mexican empire! We were left alone by both Spain and Mexico so we could figure out our government style without pressure or incompetences caused by classism. We were all poor and even creoles, spaniards and native Americans had to work the land together to survive. Today we all know the results Though never perfect Costa Rica is a beacon of peaceful democracy in the whole World
Nicaragua is the poorest country not costa rica
Costa Rica is the richest country in Central America
I think he wanted to say that Costa Rica WAS the poorest country back then. Since we weren't allowed to trade freely with Panama (since it was part of Gran Colombia at that time), we were limited to grow our economy, and our huge distance from Guatemala made us difficult to reach resources.
Great video. Thanks for the education.
Greetings from Florida!
As a Guatemalan the reason why Mexico and Guatemala is not one country is because of the history and the ethnicities of each countries are different. The people of Guatemala are mostly descendants of the maya. While Mexico was mixed with the Spanish and also integrating themselves with the indigenous Aztecs and Olmec people of Mexico.
Bro olmecs were dead like 500 or 600 years before the spanish came 💀
that’s not why they’re not one country lol. The state of Chiapas and Guatemala are both very Mayan but Chiapas is part of Mexico. Same as if Central America was still a country Guatemala would be very mayan state but it doesn’t matter because many countries are diverse rather than homogeneous.
@@katjerouac actially the real reason that central america is no longer part of Mexico is because of internal strife, little to no interest of the central government to develope the area at that time, the diverse goals each regional government of the capitania general of guatemala had, and the fact that after some time central americans wanted to try and rule themselves as the republic of central america but, such country collapsed by in fightining. Afterwards mexico was seen by them as too weak and problematic after the U.S beated them and therefore thought they would be better off by themselves, with the exception of the state of Chiapas that remained as part of Mexico because it was better connected and most of its trade was with the nearby mexican cities anyway.
There is not difference between Mexican o Central American the same mix of people 👍🏻
@@wuilmermenjivar7467 I would have to strongly disagree with you. So please unless you are Hispanic I’d Advise you to stay out of this conversation.
Guatemala was part of the Mexican Empire from 1821 to 1823. They lost Chiapas in the process.
No Chiapas was never part of Guatemala. Guatemala wasnt even a country they were provincial provinces of New Spain. So when New Spain became independent they were annexed to the Mexican empire. When the empire dissolved Chiapas stayed with Mexico and the rest decided to get Mexican independence and form their country "Central America" then they broke up into many countries. Chiapas stayed with Mexico since the independence of Spain and has stayed there since.
Guatemela’s been around along with other modern day areas like Cuba and Colombia since the 1500s. Central America is a part of the Caribbean just like Belize, Haiti, and Puerto Rico are. what’s happened for 2 years in the past is history, but it’s important to realize how diverse the Caribbean islands, Central America, and South America are
Briefly, but only because tbe sponsors of Iturbide wanted a monarchy, as they knew of no other form of government. The administration of the newly minted Mexico was a carryover from its days as New Spain. With that came the lands north and south of present day Mexico.
Chiapas was indeed part of the Guatemalan captaincy but I am unclear whether it was another region like Honduras or Nicaragua or an actual part of Guatemala proper. The fact that the Captaincy of Guatemala or central America held a plebiscite asking their residents if they wished to remain with Mexico and that Chiapas said "I'm staying", leads me to believe that Chiapas was like Honduras.
@@gunnasintern Mexico is also part of the Caribbean since the Yucatan is in the Caribbean. Actually Mexico is closer to Cuba than Central America. Mexico also has Caribbean cuisine really great Mexican seafood.
I believe youre right. People underestimate how much can a jungle chance things; the southern jungle Is the actual n1 reasson México stops where It does It and why It has never tried to change It since. Its a natural barrier, while Cuba was perfectly accesible for Méxican and viceversa before therevolutionary isolationist regime.
Nowadays we still relate to cubans but Its More of an old thing, like something of people who were already here in the 60's
Shame about Inturbide. Much promise yet fell flat on many areas.
Yup, mexican tradition since day one edition on politics.
Maximiliano Von Habsburgo was another promising individual, younger brother of the Austro-Hungarian Emperor.
Hold my cerveza stated Generalisimo Santa Ana , allegedly!
Did you not watch the video? He did an awful job of governing.
It’s actually a shame that no one knows the true history of Iturbide- including this video. All the info presented here and what’s been “taught” through the decades is an amalgamation of distorted facts. The true historical facts lie within Mexico’s archives, and have been slowly coming out to light brought on by archival historical researchers. A good primer for this study and results of this research , with actual sources, has been published and posted on several outlets. This link is of particular detail on the specifics left out on this video:
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I love Mexico. Go 5+ times a year. The people, food, culture. It's the best.
Would it be too much trouble to leave a relevant date (even just a year) in the corner of the frame throughout the whole video? I've noticed you have a tendency to say the dates first, but I can't seem to remember them unless I have some relevant information to attach to them first.
Chiapas and soconusco are part of México...
Great video! Love your platform. It’s a shame history is not taught anymore and underscores why the world feels hopeless in not repeating past mistakes.
Interesting video 👍
El Salvador 🇸🇻 my peoples
I'm a Salvi too from NYC.
@@Califresh21 So do I, From Yuba City, CA
Nope
Eres salvi chango 😂😂
Sipotes😂
Iturbide should have followed the example set by George Washington. After the Revolutionary War, people told Washington he could make himself king. Washington dismissed that idea, saying, "We didn't fight a war just to replace a king with another king." Washington didn't even want to be president, but accepted the role in order to set the foundations for federal government in America, and only accepted two terms.
If Iturbide hadn't acted so imperial, the Central Republic might have remained with Mexico.
Very few people would have done what Washington did. Including most in the US. If one of the other founding fathers were in that position, who knows what would have happened.
“Saw their chance to overthrow the Spanish rulers at home” but then they offered to make the former king of Spain the king of Mexico?
They were fighting the French backed Spanish government because they didn’t like the idea of being ruled by the French.
By that time, the establishment in Mexico was fighting against a liberal Spanish constitution that came into place while Spain was fighting off the French. The French were already gone
@@DanielLopez-sm1jm I think you have the dates wrong by a few years.
Wow and no. The elite upper class knew of no other form of government and were scared of a government that included the lower social classes. That is why they asked general Iturbide (who had no nobility in his blood) to become emperor of Mexico. It lasted less than a decade.
Fantastic video !
Keep up the good work. I love the chanel.
..... Chiapas was linked with Guatemala in colonial days, but it became a Mexican state in 1824; its boundaries were fixed in 1882.Jul 7, 2024.
Why? The same reason why there isnt a Greater Germany in Europe.
The bigger why Is because the jungle in the south of México That divides It from central América, we have never been great with the jungle Hence why that's the only region that has consistently mantainer insurgentes. México has then felt quite confortable having the jungle as a divisory line for Itself.
Because of that Is way More probable to see the south of the US returning to México than central América, in The North there's a continuity that Is absent in the south. As a Northern Mexican I can tell you that many of us feel way closer to Mexican Americans in southern US than to actual southern Mexicans
@@leonake4194Definitely, as a Mexican-American, but more importantly a Tejano! Most likely because us Mexican-Americans came from Norteños in Mexico. My family came from Monterrey, over 120 years ago into Texas. History is crazy, yet somehow my grandmothers side is Mayan, which indicates that a one point in time they moved from Southern Mexico, before or after Spain into Northern Mexico, perhaps the cause was the War.
Funny thing, Costa Rica tried to join the empire even fought brief civil war that caused the capital to be moved from Cartago to San José and the empire collapsed before that conflict ended and we hadn’t even realized. We take it for granted now but Costa Rica was pretty hard to reach, most of our southern border is practically impassable due to the Talamanca mountain range (if that wasn’t enough the southern border of Panama is even worse) and on the northern border you could really only enter through Guanacaste which is the driest region and its wilderness isn’t exactly kind.
Ah, someone at last who knows detailed history! Really, if I had basic video edition skills, I would make a video about how actually Central America in its totality was NO part of Mexico, especially Costa Rica.
@@azarishiba2559 I don’t blame them, Centralamerican history is very messy from the date independence to the end of the republic. After that each country became more separate from each other so the history is a lot easier to track and there’s less conflictive points of view.
Heck people don’t even know how much Costa Rica’s borders have changed in history. Nicoya (most of Guanacaste + some of Puntarenas) used to be its own country but we merged and Greater Colombia took Bocas del Toro from us (which I’m a little salty about, that region is beautiful)
@@sspectre8217 Well, that's true. Even Costa Rican history after Independence is quite complicated. The Annexation of Guanacaste is also more complicated than we are thought: at first Nicoya and Santa Cruz did join Costa Rica happily, but Guanacaste (present Liberia) DIDN'T. It was not after the bandit Manuel Quijano, who was tormeting the whole province, was defeated that Guanacaste started to just mellow to the idea of being part of Costa Rica, and they finally accepted after 1856 National Campaign against the filibusteros.
0:18 Just a heads up, in the map you include the South American Spanish territories as part of New Spain, but they were a different viceroyalty altogether, first the Viceroyalty of Peru, which would later be divided to add the Viceroyalties of Nueva Granada and Rio de la Plata; none of these were part of the Viceroyalty of New Spain.
Good video.
Central America IS already part of Mexico:
Tabasco, Chiapas, Campeche, the Yucatan, Quintana Roo, are all
regionally Central American, and the people are probably closer related to the people of
Central America, rather than to those far north in Sonora,
Chihuahua, and Coahuilla.
Yup 👍 greetings from HMO in the Sonora desert 🌵 Mexico 🇲🇽
NO. All of Mexico is situated in the North American tectonic plate.
@@RobustkyGuerrerosAncestralesYou are right about Mexico being entirely within the North American place, which ends in Honduras, where it meets the Caribbean plate. But parts of southern Mexico are more Central American in terms of culture, accent, food, etc. Like Central American countries, southern Mexico uses more rice in their diet than corn tortillas, and uses less spicy food than northern parts of Mexico.
@@sbcburgos2300 No. All of Mexico is the North American tectonica plate, just google it.
Actually you’re right! Southern Mexico have more in common with Central America in culture and especially in food. Most southern states wrap their tamales in banana leafs rather than corn, they also eat more fried plantains like Guatemala and El Salvador
You’re average Chiapas breakfast almost looks like something people from El Salvador would eat in the morning
Plus, some regions of Chiapas and Yucatan use Vos instead of tu
great video!
Thank you!
Not Creoles, criollos.
Not Mexicans, Mexicanos. Not Spanish, Españoles. 😂
@@ER805IK Creoles isn't criollos when translated. Creoles exist in Spanish and wasn't used to refer to spanish born in America. Also this video is filled with even worse mistakes or innacuracies especially when it comes to the independece process.
@@ER805IK Creole is French brotha. Criollo is Spanish.
Same meaning so who cares.
@@1988vikable Creole also exist in Spanish and is used to refer to certain group of Black people.
Any two countries divided by a straight line is one nation. Straight lines on a map are impossible to defend and were drawn by the empire.
That was very informative
Let's just say this didn't aged well for several central american countries.
Nicaragua is definitely better off under Mexican rule being that it's one of the poorest countries in the world.
Iturbide: "And we declare indepence from your monarchy, Spain!"
Mexico: *loud applause*
Iturbide: "And now it is time for MY Monarchy, Mexico."
Mexico: *awkward uncomfortable applause*
Joel Robert's poinset got iturbide removed because he wouldn't sell the northern part of mexico, the u.s. wanted that land since it was owned by Spain.
I don't know if your research was incomplete or you just passed it by but the Capitanía general de centroamerica, while nominally dependent from the virreinato de Nueva España was largely autonomous and did not become independent when Mexico did, it was a bit later. You just seemed to gloss over that. Basically your history is about Mexico and not Central America, should have that in the title.
Great video. I wish you would have gone into a little more depth as to why the Cental American Republic split back up right after speaking to the USA in the 40s.
I am:
50% Spaniard
13% Portuguese
7% French
4% Basque
26% indigenous Mexican.
Although my maternal grandmother was born in Guadalajara, family roots go to where Mesa AZ, is now.
My daddy's last name is from
the Basque area too.
You are likely “mestizó” from your haplogroups. Look it up. Most maternal haplogroup is indigenous.
funny dog breed
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Mexico, tremendous country!!!
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@Xxxxxxxbj who dude?
Do you attend school?, big problem dude
@Xxxxxxxbj Because according to them you stole that land, so they are still entitled to it. And they are in the process of breeding you out, and the part of land that was stolen from them will be taken back.
Contrary to what the Guatemalan governed used to insist, Belize was not part of all that, and was never part of Guatemala.
Si fue parte y hasta el dia de hoy el territorio esta disputa
The Province of San Salvador didn't accept the annexation and fought hard against Mexican and Guatemalan troops, but was finally defeated in February 1823, but in May that same year, the people revolted and pushed out the Mexican troops and their Guatemalan commander out of the Province back into Guatemala. The people of Central America rewarded the Salvadorean General Manuel José Arce, who fought hardest against the Mexican annexation by electing him as the first president of the United Central American Provinces.
El Salvador! Always putting up a battle.
Central America having different regimes is a reason why there are not part of Mexico.
Central America is also Caribbean region that has South American influence. it has more in common with cultures like Cuba and Colombia
so yeah that’s why, because Central America is a part of the Caribbean, but has South American influence like its food (arepas, ceviche, plantains, yuca, etc) and other things such as music too
Mexico is also part of the Caribbean. Central America was corrupt thts why they not part of Mexico. Rogue Mexican states.
@@gunnasintern Just like in Colombia there are differences in Central America depending on State. Guatemala is a little more like Mexico also with some Cuban immigration, El Salvador is the quintessential Centralamerican country politicially speaking and they are the cultural bridge between Guatemala and the rest of C.A. Honduras and Nicaragua are similar to Cuba and Colombia because of the caribbean coast and they represent the average Centralamerican. Finally Costa Rica mostly just takes from Colombia but all in all Central America has a culture of its own despite differences like in any other country.
@@gunnasintern LOL...The Mexican Yucatan Peninsula is virtually in the Caribbean, 120 miles from Cuba, the closest than any of The Central American country. Honduras is 705 miles from Cuba, 625 miles from Jamaica, and the same for Nicaragua. El Salvador faces the Pacific Ocean, and so does the majority of Guatemala.🤣🤣
@@katjerouac Guatemala is not like Mexico lol . Guatemala is more like el salvador and honduras
As a Mexican I am personally glad that those countries are not part of Mexico just as I am happy Texas and California are also no longer Mexican.
I love my country exactly as it is. I would not like it any other way. 😊
Good for you. Keep your mental health!
Another thing is that they would be horribly underdeveloped states if they were still part of our country, I can guarantee. Now, the northern portion taken by the US, to be honest I would definitely like it to be part of Mexico today, although it doesn't mean they would be exactly as they are now. I'd like at least Arizona and California to be ours, since they're the 2 US states I relate the most, I am going to California this weekend and will try to visit the Sequoia National Park and it makes me imagine how cool it would be for others to be able to visit without a stupid Visa. Anyways...
What a submissive mentality, how disgusting.
@@The_Recycler You say that but if you travel to Texas and Cali and look around they might as well be Mexico at this point.
Soon the majority of the population will be Latino. 😅
I've been living in Texas the past few months and it feels just like home. I reckon that you don't need a to know a single word of english to live comfortably in Texas...
I hope Trump continues with his wall ASAP
What would happen if the 7 central american coubtries formed a new Republic and each country was a state, like a mini USA? Where would their Washington DC be? What would be the political and economic implications of such a union?
The UK might be a better example
That ain't gonna happen. Each of then has gone their own way since then. Costa Rica and Panama are among the most prosperous of them.
Costa Rica has a unique political system as one of the most stable and most developed elective republics in the region. Costa Rica had been the one that tends to be viewed politically as the Switzerland of the region.
@@rahuliyer7456 At that time, Costa Rica was considered the poorest region in the whole spanish empire, according to its own governor. Politically it had dependency with Nicaragua, and if the elite from Costa Rica wanted better education, they had to go to Nicaragua (if they had better resources, to Guatemala, Mexico, or perhaps Spain) as there was no higher education institution (the first one was founded in 1983, Universidad de Santo Tomás). Taking that in account, it seems that independency was the correct answer for Costa Rica.
@yellow Mexico has states like the US does. So a united Central America would be a mini Mexico.
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Rich Coast is not Suiza they are little more dangerous than the creators of Toblerone
they weren't lucky enough
A few details:
Creoles is an American word from Louisiana. The proper word is Criollo. Hence the images for the Criollos throughout the video are incorrect as they don’t t portray Spanish descendants born in the New Spain but Louisiana’s Creoles.
The mixed background mentioned says Indigenous, Spanish and Mexican at minute 2:22… Saying “Mexican” at that moment is incorrect. The mixed background was indigenous from different cultures: Aztecs, Tlaxcaltecas, Mayas, etc, Spanish and Africans mostly but not only.
The map colored in yellow is incomplete, as the territories were organized in structures called Viceroyalties “Virreinatos) with the portion of central America and the northern countries of South America belonging to the New Granade, not New Spain.
The map is also excluding Belize, which has another interesting history regarding its colonial past and the times around the independence movements of the American continent.
Excellent topic and the discussion below is indeed adding to it.
There was a typo in the "Federal Republic". No idea if its too late to change but seeing as I'm early I let you know
There were other Mexican states that wanted to seperate and become independent from Mexico but because they were in the middle of Mexico, they didn't let them. Its alot easier the farther away you are in this case the tale of Mexico to seperate,which happened. 😊
Im from chiapas and we are basicly a little self governed region in mexico supported by mexico and its pretty much, they act differant they are differant
Bien
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I mean isnt every state in Mexico very proud of their uniqueness?
You think Chiapas is different?
Chiapas has more in common with states like Puebla and Guerrero than Puebla and Guerrero have with Northern Mexican states
@@joecool9739 yes
Supported by Mexico?? It IS Mexico! Chiapas is one of 32 Mexican states LMAO
You forgot about the other province of Guatemala, Chiapas, which remained part of Mexico.
Chiapas was not a province of Guatemala, it was a province of Central America in New Spain. When Central America Federalized in 1823 Chiapas stayed with Mexico.
@@katjerouac I thought that central America was part of the kingdom of Guatemala, which was also a part of New Spain
@@katjerouac Chiapas was part of Guatemala and left Mexico along with Guatemala but Chiapas wanted out and left Guatemala and the rest of the gang to returned to Mexico and became a Mexican state in 1824.
Ask the people of Chiapas which side they would take Mexico or Guatemala???
@@MariaGasca-Reyes believe me they would say mexico that's why the zapatistas made the hq over there
The map used in the videos is incorrect. The territory of New Spain, which included all the territories north of Panama, the Caribean islands and the Phillipines became independent from Spain in 1821.
Eventually, the island territories went their own way, either by declaring their own independence or again by being conquered by another nation (Phillipines by the US). The remaining territories of New Spain in the majnland were made up by Mexico and the Captaincy of Guatemala. The map suggests that Belize or British Honduras was always under the control of the U.K.. That is not so, as the UK conquered Belize in 1862, more than 40 years after its' independence from Spain.
The viceroyalty of New Spain extended from north of present day Panama to into present day US state of Oregon, the Caribean islands and the Phillipines. South of Costa Rica and into the northern part of South America made up the Viceroyalty of New Granada and not as the map shown in the video. Panama never formed part of the Viceroyalty of New Spain, as it was part of New Granada and later on as part of Colombia.
Mexico did hold dominion over Central América, but after a few years of this union, a plebiscite was held asking the inhabitants of Central America if they wished to remain with Mexico and as a result the union was disolved. It should be noted, that as a result of this plebiscite, the state of Chiapas (which was part of Guatemala) decided to remain with Mexico. In essence, the area known as Central America extended from the border of Panama, all the way to Mexicos' state of Chiapas.
@knowledgia you owe Central America a nice video because of this! You don’t want to burn bridges or look dumb.
3:05 captions "september 16, 2010"
He meant "September 16, 1810"
@@Zenced I know
Why did you not include to mention Belize in this video? Since it is technically a part of Central America.
Because it was under British rule.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Honduras
And at the end it was mentioned that today it is part of it.
Belize was under british control
Belize was a British colony and Panama was part of Colombia. So they were never part of Mexico or the Central American federation
And in 1798 Spain actually sent an invasion force to invade British Honduras known as present day Belize. The battle of St. Georges Caye it was called. The Spanish lost and never again tried to invade Belize
Belize is English speaking like Jamaica and Trinidad. just more proof that Central America is culturally Caribbean at its foundation
Forgot to mention part of Guatemala joined Mexico
If we joined we would be the fifth richest state and the fifth largest state
@@rokosbasilisk913 No Guatemala es independiente
You mean Chiapas.
@@JordyJ. Chiapas fue parte de Guatemala.
Naaaa! Chiapas was not part of the Province of Guatemala, it was a Province like Honduras and San Salvador.
0:15 Just a clarification. Don't confuse the viceroyalty of New Spain with Mexico. These countries became independent from both the Spanish empire and Mexico almost at the same time that Mexico achieved its independence from Spain.
This vid completely filled with wrong info and omissions. Sad story for the "Iron dragon" Emperor. He was not spending money on himself. The previous rebellion from his cousin de Hidalgo the priest. Left major and important infrastructure in ruins. Agustin formed a congress however congress was focus on how to over through him. He disbanded form another congress, later this congress negated him to abdicate and force him to exile on the count of death if he return. He could have easily went to war with the ones that proclaimed him emperor, since he had full support of the army and the lower class. He did not want more blood shed between mexicans. While in exile he heard of a plan from Spain to reconquer Mexico and decided to warn and raised and army in defense. However when he arrived he was order to be executed and his warning were un answer couple months later spain sent out an army from cuba to reconquer Mexico.
Costa Rica be like: Nuh uh im not joining your same flag gang😂
Cost Rica was part of the Central American state.
@@1988vikable im saying they dont have the same flag, not that they r not in central american state bruh 😆
@@1988vikable nevermind
@@kacangajaib1563 They did have the same flag though.
Who cares? They actually stole land from Nicaragua
There was the odd case of Chiapas, the only Central American region that decided to stay with Mexico.
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it’s cause the rest of Central America are culturally Caribbean with South American influences. places like Costa Rica and Guatemala are more closely linked with Cuba and Colombia, and have been for centuries. they were always treated as their own unique areas even when they were a part of New Spain
@@gunnasintern As a colombian, I think all of Costa Rica, the caribbean coasts of Nicaragua and Honduras and obviously all of Panamá would fit quite well within Colombia. The central and western parts of Nicaragua, Honduras and all of El Salvador and Guatemala feel more "southern mexican" to me.
The whole theory that the indigenous original groups of western coastal Nicaragua are descendants from Aztecs is an unproven myth. “Haplogoup C1 for example, is found in high frequencies in indigenous Mexicans and at lower frequencies in El Salvador and Guatemala, whereas in Nicaragua and Costa Rica it is absent, reflecting the Chibchan origins of some Nicaraguan lineages since the Chibcha lack this haplogroup as well.” Quoted from research paper.
Bring back the Kingdom of Guatemala 🇬🇹!
God forbid. No. Guatemala can't even take care of itself now.
Thanks!
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They should take a vote to see if they want to be part of the Mexico.
No one in Central America wants to be part of Mexico
0:41 I see a historical inaccuracy with the borders. Guatemala owned more of southern Mexico. I will come back and delete this comment if I see this issue fixed later in the video haha
Part of Central America stayed with Mexico after the Mexican empire dissolved meaning it never formed part of the independent Central America so when Guatemala's borders were formed "chiapas" was already a part of Mexico.
Agreed he said Mexico was part of Guatemala so it was Mexico that belonged to them and originally it was all new Spain not Mexico
@@hope2bhelpful95 Guatemala and most of Central America belonged to Mexico even when Mexico New Spain is Mexico old name. Guatemala wasnt new spain just provincial territory of New Spain aka Mexico. all that was part of its territory. that's why Guatemala and Central America have Mexican independence. becasue Mexico gave Central America their independence otherwise Mexico would just have kept
And Belize was part of Guatemala for most of the video's duration
@@pokedoctor2087 hmm look into “British Honduras”.
Regarding Costa Rica, they are doing fairly well as an independent country. Been there many times. It's a great place if you want to relocate outside of USA. They are relatively prosperous.
Please call the country of the Ticos as "Coasta Rica", not "Cahsta Rica". These are the phonetic pronunciations.
As far as me, expect to find me somewhere in Latin America. Maybe in Central America somewhere.
Not anymore. Costa Rica has gotten worse to live there. Many expats are moving to other Countries.
Costa Rica is really nice and shows how Central American culture is Caribbean at its core with South American influence. you really get the best of both worlds over there
@@gunnasintern What South American influence? The top part of South America is not different. It is Carribean too.
@@theejayzeeablethe Basques and other Europeans arrived via the ports but settled in The Colombian, Costa Rican and Nicaraguan mountains.
In Mexico we Dream whith One country “Unit Estate Centroamérica Of México”🇲🇽🤝💪🏼
Soñarás tu, Para los demás sería una pesadilla con mareros.
The truth being the Viceroyalty of New Spain included Mexico, Central America and other territories, and when Mexico got its independence, they should have demanded even the Philippines, but no, they settled for just México, something I never understood.
Iturbide was kind enough to even invite Central America to join them to voluntarily annex.
I always see mexico as USA brother. Didn't know mexico had little brothers
Actually mexico is the u.s.a dad that the us wanted to be to superior to its dad so bad it played super dirty and robbed him and took the glory for itself dad has been in prison ever since but is soon to be released and make a comeback 😅
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El Salvador is definitely the heart and soul of Central America. A small country but very resilient against their bigger neighbors especially against Guatemala and the Mexican empire invasions of 1821-1822. I can see why El Salvador wanted to be part of USA as a state in 1822 because of their bullying neighbors.
No one was bullying them, El Salvador was just different politically, they were Republicans and Mexico was more faithful to the Vatican and the church, thus making Mexicans of that time hardcore religious people and faithful to the Catholic crown. You can definitely see it even today on how many Catholics Mexico has compared to El Salvador.
the Central American countries are generally more closely tied with Caribbean and South American culture because of its close ties to those regions. what El Salvador went through is sad, at the same time it happened because of political different which usually relates to corruption
Mexico is also a part of the Caribbean especially the Yucatan peninsula closer to Cuba than Central America.
Ummmmm oooookayyyy
The Bully is The U.S
Interesting show.
Mexico was never a colony of Spain. Mexico was a reign. Many people don't understand the difference. Also, at the time when this happened, Simon Bolivar and the Colombians posed a significant threat to Mexico. Mexico was in bad shape, it had been in war with no money and no enough army to defend the territory. So the government decided to give Centro America freedom and used them as buffer zone. Something about Centro America which wildly odd is that they celebrate independence from Spain at the same date than Mexico which largely inaccurate being that 1. they became independent from Mexico. 2. at a different date.
@fanatik9590 Not really, Mexico had just gain independence from Spain in a war that lasted 10 years. Mexico didn't have the money or the army to fight for Centro America. The threat to Northern Mexico happened 40 years after
He skipped Mexicos invasion of El Salvador witch preceded the voting and added to aristocratic hostilitys causing them to vote agianst Mexico, The Mexicans sieged San Salvador in the city named Mejicanos named after Mexican Native settelers during the Spanish invasion, Fun Fact The national Dish of El Salvador is a modern version of the Gordita and the tribe speak and are descendants of the Nahuatl tribe witch the Aztec/Mexica belong to.
Incorrect, El Salvador had the HEAVIEST resistance to the annexation thus is why Pro-Annexation Guatemalan & Mexican forces invaded El Salvador and went to war with Salvadoran forces …. They successfully sieged the capital of San Salvador the same month the Imperio Mexicano collapsed so El Salvador never really was apart of the Mexican Empire
And “mejicanos “ is a neighborhood in San Salvador named after the last battle fought between forces where the Mexicans forces lost and surrendered to the Salvadorans forces declaring Salvadoran victory
@@rabioramos1796No, The Capital Mejicanos area was named by the Spaniards after the tribes they settled their, hence the spelling,And the soldiers were Guatamalan lead by a Mexican general, El Salvador never made Mexico surrender lmao.
@@BernieSanders-bn5dk incorrect , look it up google is free .. mejicanos is a neighborhood was named after Salvadorans defeated the Mexican insurgency
@@BernieSanders-bn5dk yes they did 🤦🏽♂️ , they literally made a whole neighborhood dedicated to their win … and incorrect idk where you getting all this information from but the army consisted of Mexican and Guatemalan allied forces
@@rabioramos1796 Yeah that's one of the places the Mexicans laid siege to the capital from, The area already had the name Mejicanos given to it by Spains allied conquerors who were natives from the Central valley named Valley of Mexico.
United Statians asking themselves "aren't they all Mexicans" 😂😂😂
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That’s why America is being taken over by Indians, just look at the presidential race from both parties.
3:01 The captains right here say 2010 instead of 1810
My whole life I straight-up thought the Grito de Dolores was a cry about all the pains Spain was causing 😂
If you wonder, what's that land left out of all events shown in white; it's Belize. A former British colony.
They are still part of it, unoficially at least. Too many evonomic, social and historic ties.
If it weren't for MEXICO fighting and defeating the Spanish army all of central america would still be (Nueva Espana). MEXICO was the ONLY country to have the balls and heart to take on the Spanish army and send them back to Europe. Viva MEXICO cabrones! 🇲🇽💯
@México926 the rest of Latin America wasn't considered (Nueva Espana) like Mexico and central america were. But MEXICO fought 10 years and defeated the Spanish army this giving freedom to everyone in the region
Let's be frank all central America copies Mexico they use Mexican
Slangs dress like Mexicans
Mexico is king 👑
@@eddibetty10 Muchos Mexicanos hablan sin saber toda la verdad. Se Dejan arrastrar por su nacionalismo. Repito, muchos no todos.
@@eddibetty10 nope it was thanks to napoleon and invasion of France ,which is why Central America declared & gained independence before Mexico did
@@rabioramos1796 what are you talking about? Y'all didn't gain independence until 1821 after the Mexican Spanish war was over. Y'all salvadorans make up your own history out your ass it's not even funny. Read and educate yourself
the guy kinda sounds like oxhorn
Haha yup
I always thought of them as a different type of Mexican, they really should just be that because it's easiest and less steerage. They all are basically the same and should love that.
ITS COOL MEXICO DONT NEED THEM WE GOOD LIKE THAT
But some of them are very poor, won't you help them out?
I wish it was we are one ppl
What about Los Altos ?
Center Americans obtained their independence by asking for it real Mexicans gained our independence fighting for it
The people back then have nothing to do with the people today. That was so long ago, the language was even different.
In my fantasy map, Spanish America consists of just six countries:
Mexico
Guatemala aka Central America
Gran Colombia
Peru-Bolivia (as per the brief confederation)
Argentina (with Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay joined)
The Antillean Confederation (Cuba, DR, Puerto Rico)
The funny thing, while the Province of San Salvador was fighting the Mexico-Guatemalan army against annexation, it sent a delegation to Washington proposing to become a part of the Unites States rather than Mexico, but the US congress turned them down saying they didn't want to confront Mexico. At that time Mexico could have bested the US hands tied.
@@hugosalazar5362 the invasion was not 4 annexation, but punitive in nature, Iturbide was a jack*** got rid of him & Mex set you all free to choose your path. E.S. Asked 2X to be a state, they were not wanted.
@fanatik9590 you and I weren't there, pal, so we can't be a 100% sure, but that's why we go to school, that's why we read and investigate. If you don't trust Mexican and Salvadorean history books or any other history book, for that matter, I don't know what to tell you. Besides, why would Salvadorans make up a lie that Mexico annexed it by force?
@fanatik9590 Méxican and Guatemalan forces fought, defeated, annexed San Salvador province by force of arms, but three months later, the people revolted, fought , defeated, and pushed them out of that province. The Mexican commander was General Vicente Filísola, sent by Emperor Iturbide himself to subdue the Province of San Salvador because of their refusal to annex to the Mexican Empire. The Guatemalan commander who was left in charge of the Mexico-Guatemalan occupation forces in San Salvador was General Felipe Codallos. It's all in the books, and it's no invention. Of course, the rebel province of San Salvador wasn't what El Salvador as a country is now because in 1824 it got another portion of land from Guatemala.
@fanatik9590 Salvadoreans and Mexicans started their relation on the wrong foot, but now they're the best of friends. In fact, we Salvadoreans owe so much to the Mexican people and their government. When there are natural disasters in our country, Mexico's the first to send aid. We also have an excellent diplomatic relation with Mexico and the Mexicans are so kind to let us through their territory when travelling uninvited to your northern neighbour.
Cause they lacked vision
Hidalgo never declare Mexico independence all he did was to proclaim loyalty to King Ferdinand instead of King Charles IV or Napoleon's brother Joseph. At the end of his run he declare himself a messiah and started loosing faith with his people.
Loosening faith?
@@scarharting5577 loosing faith to him as a leader.
Central America for Central Americans!
facts… Central America is a part of the Caribbean just like the islands and Northern South America. Puerto Rican, Salvadoran, and Venezuelan culture/food should be cherished for how unique they are while also being linked (plantains, yuca, etc)
But yall arent unified that why yall separated into many countries.
@theawesomeman What do u mean Central America for Central Americans? Central America is not a country, dummy. Its like saying North America for North Americans lol. Makes no sense.
@@1988vikable cant have shit in CA i guess lol.
Mexico liberated ALL of the New Spain, Mexico put all the blood during the 11 years war with Spain. Central americans cowardly didn´t put 1 soldier. Mexico generously allowed each region to be independent of part of Mexico.
Chiapas once Belong To Guatemala and on September 14 1824 Became another state of Mexico recognized By The Mexican Congress
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