The first video of 2025 and my second real attempt at going in the direction my channel was originally meant to go. Hopefully whoever watches this video enjoys it. Let's see how this goes...
The irony of Arcane trying not to stay longer than they should... is that they ended sooner than they should. This story should have been a 3 season story. It needed to breath a bit more.
The way season 2 is structured it wouldn't work if it was extended in 2 seasons. I see two ways for an extended version to work. A) They make each Act 6 episodes long to give the story the time it needs to breathe and expand on everything. They release one Act per year starting in 2023 and ending in 2025. With this we would have just gotten a bigger Act 2 that would have ended with the death of Isha and Vander. B) Alternatively they would simply expand the episodes we got with the extra dialogue, extended scenes, connecting scenes and extra scenes needed to make the story flow better. Give each episode as much time as it needs. Some might only need 5-10 minutes (Act I episodes don't need that much) and others would need a lot more (the last episodes would have to be much longer considering their content).
It could've worked as a 2 season story if it simply continued the story of season 1, without overreaching with trying to tie it together with future noxian story (mel's magical powers+blackrose) and the sappy story about forgiveness and not inventing hextech supposedly solving every issue in the world
I have quipped that the bulk of Arcane Season 2 criticisms are that it ends (an ironic observation, given this video!). While there were a few skimmed bits (Viktor's turn to the dark side, no hint of Maddie's, how the Zaunites rallied, the Black Rose angle), the biggest problem was that there's no character resolution for people like Mel and Ekko at the end. It would have only needed 5 minutes, but they're just... left. I don't think an extra season was needed for this. 3x 4 part acts would have more than sufficed (although, again, we run into costs)
@moonmoon2479 I think S2 writing was good except for some side characters you just need to give it more thought and time to process. Compared to S1 it had more of "show, don't tell" that's probably why some people didn't like it
You raise pretty good points in your video. The sense I get with Season 2 is that so much story was cut out due to business decisions. This is most apparent with whatever happened between Jinx and Ekko after Ekko saved her, but it's also apparent with Caitlyn's dictator arc and Vi's pit-fighter arc. More time given to these storylines would have made Season 2...a season I still enjoyed...better.
Banger vid, even as a league of legends player I would love for riot to spend more time fleshing out their single player games like the jinx fixes everything series in the client. Love the perspective this video covers about this amazing series
I have watched a lot of videos on Arcane and I mean it when I say this is one of the best. I appreciate you actually considering the difficult realistic part of them choosing to stick to only two seasons but yet still pointing out how it's a good thing while many people whine (the same people who would definitely hate the next seasons and say this was the peak). Most people obviously will just review the show which is fine but this was a much more interesting topic. I'm also glad you're not being overly negative or positive with no real depth. This video was very well made and I hope more people who watched the show will give it a look
That means a lot to me. Just like I said in the video, you sometimes make something and you're on edge about what the response will be. Comments like this are greatly encouraging. Thanks!
"while many people whine (the same people who would definitely hate the next seasons and say this was the peak" No. The story was rushed. And it needed more time for its character arcs and plotlines to breathe. The reason there's two seasons is because the creators wanted the story over and done with and move on to their next spinoff projects. The story really needed three seasons, not two. The only reason why people enjoyed the season as much as they did, is because of the pretty animation and the spectacular music. But the writing very much fell short, so much so the animation and the music had to make up for it, and it very clearly shows. Don't try to gaslight me into thinking the show's not worth "whining" about. The season made mistakes. If you keep wearing rose-tinted glasses and excuse those flaws, the creators will carry those mistakes into their future projects. It wont work because the new show wont have Arcane's season 1 character writing to get us to care about their new characters. You're not doing them any favours defending their mistakes.
@@chrishaven1489 Sorry in advance for my long comment. I already said I'm glad this video isn't "positive without any depth" because I understand the show isn't flawless. What you don't understand however is that it doesn't make it bad or a failure, especially not when it's overall highly rated. You can attribute those high ratings to whatever you want. Not sure if you watched this video fully or not, but the point of it is that they planned for 2 seasons, and they did just that in spite of what people demanded. That is definitely something that needs to be done more often. Everyone loved The Mandalorian's first 2 seasons, but then now they're saying it fell off in season 3. Not saying they're wrong, but I'm saying it's proof that sometimes it's best to walk away from the table with your dignity still intact. I don't think it's occurred to many of you that you might be expecting more from Riot than they could actually give you. Many times shows are good with starting out, but not concluding. If they did 3 seasons, maybe it would have been better fleshed out in season 2, I get that, but that doesn't mean season 3 wouldn't have still been a problem, and the ending could have turned out even worse. Game of Thrones is proof of how even with a 8 seasons the ending can still end up rushed. Walking Dead's fandom has made their thoughts on that conclusion known and it had 11 seasons. House of the Dragon season 2 is getting critiqued.. Squid Game season 2 is catching a lot of slack too. All these shows have more than 2 seasons already or will, yet that's not saving them from the heat. So more seasons isn't always the answer. Riot already won with Arcane. We can critique them so they understand what we think can be improved, but I'm not going to throw tomatoes at them when they still produced a video game show that was a great effort overall. You can say this and that about how the show resolved, but the response to the trailer they just released speaks for itself. If you want to convince yourself that's because of "rose-tinted glasses" because you don't agree, I can't do much about that
@@emily-chan3848I 100% agree with u. And even with the flaws I still find arcane beautiful.. I even loved season 2. I got emotionally attached to the characters. And while some characters may have had poor writing, I feel like jinx had an amazing arc with great writing. I think that’s what got me hooked to the second season because I loved seeing jinx’s story. I know that a lot of others like it too. It’s flawed but beautiful.. and not just because of the animation..
@@emily-chan3848 "You can attribute those high ratings to whatever you want." I attribute it to the fantastic animation and music that very much carried the writing of this season. And the reason why people care about the characters is because of how they were written in the first season. They're not gonna have that advantage in the next project. If they handle their new characters the same way they handled their old ones in the second season, their new show is gonna blow up in their face. You're listing all these bad shows and conveniently omitting shows that do work with more than two seasons. Like Breaking Bad. You think that show would work as well as it did if it had only 2-3 seasons to work with. The reason why Breaking Bad works is because the show had time to accommodate the arcs and transformations the characters go through. If Breaking Bad only had 2-3 seasons, Walter White's transformation would've been rushed and unrealistic. That's the problem with Arcane's second season. Their character arcs went through 2 seasons worth of character development in a single season, as a result a lot of vital beats were missing from a lot of character arcs. If Arcane's story worked with 2 seasons, I'd be happy for it to have 2 seasons. But it didn't work. They rushed through important character beats and developments, characters made off-character,180 decisions, and they abandoned the grounded, nuanced themes of the first season to make way for a shallow final battle you'd expect from an mcu movie. But dont worry, it looks and sounds so pretty. I'm sure that shallow writing will help audiences care about their new batch of characters. "So more seasons isn't always the answer." The answer is how many seasons it takes to tell the story right. 2 seasons is very clearly not the number for Arcane. Rushing a story that needed more time is just as bad as stretching it out when you don't know how to end the story. Shows aren't better the fewer seasons they have, and the reverse isn't true either. That's not how stories work. "Riot already won with Arcane" No, it didn't win. The second season was worse than the first. What makes you think the trajectory of their future projects won't continue that downward trend? What makes you think the first season might not actually be just lightning in a bottle? An isolated incident, not to be repeated again? By all accounts a lot of the writers who worked on the first season were let go. There's a pattern there. But here you are, saying Riot already won. Congratulations. People like you are giving them license to ignore the flaws of the second season and carry those flaws onto their next projects. Because not enough people are calling them out on their faults. Because "they've already won", apparently. Let's see if that attitude works out for their next spinoff series. Like I said, you're not doing them any favours defending them
Damn amazing video. Arcane really is a masterpiece in animation and story telling. Also the video itself was really high quality!!! (would have never been able to tell you edited it on just your phone 0w0) Can’t wait to see what you have in store for us in 2025 :3
Agreed. Even with the flaws of s2, it’s flawed but beautiful. I still managed to get invested into each character and was able to catch up. The main character I had a problem with was vi bcs her writing wasn’t great. But jinx’s writing was amazing and that what elevated the season for me as I loved seeing jinx’s growth and emotional rollercoaster..
@Jack_c18GB 100%. I would still like riot to take on the criticism though, would be nice to get something even greater.. I just don’t mind applauding what we got.. which wa beautiful
So well stated--the financial and artistic decisions both made a two season story the only possible valid call -- though I've heard some say they'd have preferred lesser animation and more episodes. To which I say, how can you even live on the same planet as me? In any case, story length isn't something you can easily change after four-plus years of development...probably the biggest problem with The Hobbit movies was the decision to stretch the story out after years of working on a two-movie adaptation. It's why the first one felt cohesive, at least, while the second and third...had moments.
The people saying they'd prefer lesser animation might have been satisfied, but then plenty of other people would complain that it dropped in quality. You can't please everyone, but judging by the amount of goodwill they still seem to have with most of their audience, despite what naysayers say, they clearly made the right call
Arcane season 2 should've been 4 acts to truly conclude it without it feeling rushed. This way it truly wrapped up well. Going from 9 to 12 episodes would've been more than enough. This way it wouldn't feel like it had gaps. Another lesson i'd say for them, is don't change characters entirely to where we barely recognize them. Tweaking i understand, but they completely changed Viktor and it was a hit or miss situation. The lore is there for a reason, and i believe creators will thrive more if they follow it closely. Not just with league, but with any series
Season 2 was a hot mess. You don’t need to overstay your welcome, but if you want to tell all of the stories of season 2, it needed to be extended to 3 seasons. The season was bloated and had no room to breathe.
@@BeefyChud 3 full seasons would've been too much actually. The fans would then complain about wasting their time with unnecessary fillers, stifling the engaging pace. (Like Jayce / Ekko / Mel not showing up for an entire season or something, Vi just in the fighting pits for 5 episodes etc) But I agree 9 eps weren't enough. Imo , S2 having like 12 episodes would've been just enough.
@@Vario69Definitely. I really do think there are easier ways to make the story feel deeper and have more of those character beats we needed. Little scenes can even slightly resolve the story better than it already did. I’ll give some examples: Vi’s brash decision to join the enforcers both in the first episode and episodes 2-3. In episode 1 we could’ve been recapped in a scene where it focuses on Vi’s mind and regrets for helping Jinx all this time, therefore making a much more resolving piece of character growth to switch sides. In episode 2 and 3 we could’ve seen Vi’s struggles and concerns for Caitlyn’s questionable decisions of “gassing” Vi’s home. Without it, it feels too rushed for her character to do. Also things like Ekko and Jinx preparing for war (resolving Jinx’s hero arc that was never shown on screen). I easily think that this season could’ve been so much better with even the smallest scenes
Season Two could have been longer (two/three episodes more) to allow the plots and arcs to breathe more given it's greater scope and stakes compared to Season One. Yet it was excellent and I appreciate their decision to end it on a high note and not overstay its welcome. I am glad you note and praise the restraint and integrity to make this a two season show.
financial miss? well would need to see the whole balance sheet how much did Netflix pay? what about the revenues of the blue ray boxes? and the merchandising? You know there will be people who will wear the Cerberus leather jacket and use the mug and, and and... at the end of it, I would be surprised if Riot didn't at least get even... for something that is a big advert for their core business... I won't play LoL or the other little game, but the MMO? I may be tempted (hell, I played EQ1 for years and am still fond of it... just avoid the trap of it (any MMO) becoming a "factory job" and you're golden)
As a person who struggles to accept new shows (I see spoilers as teasers, for crying out loud - I watched Arcane after seeing "honest trailers" 😅) AND to put up with protracted plotlines, I love shows like Arcane who hnow when to stop, especially if they meke them rewatchable.
You might be correct, but what if they didn’t rush the story and had… say, another Act or two to tell the same story to the same endpoint? Or even just split the second season in two, so we’re sitting in things longer? Not that I can talk from a logistical creative standpoint, mind you; I wasn’t there. And even telling the same story and making it too long might not work. But… I dunno; did we really need LeBlanc and the Black Rose? Could they have maybe been held off until after the Piltover/Zaun conflict? Or other stuff…? Really, I can’t say for sure; I do believe that every end point in the series is the correct decision, even if I feel that the getting there wasn’t as fleshed out as I would have liked.
Bro was thinking so hard how he was not going to be like Game of Thrones that he forgot short stories need to be…you know…planned through? It’s not as easy as saying you’re going to cut it short, which I don’t believe is even true that it’s the vision they had from the very start, they had introduced too many intricacies to just get away with it with a budget crunch and almost no writers left. want a series that commits to staying contained from start to finish? Go watch Gravity Falls
Welcome back to the TH-camverse! I can't believe it's been 2 years since you did an actual video (not counting the livestream). Thanks for dropping this banger on us outta nowhere. It was really well done. Love the structure, the music and the message. 🫰🏼 Also love the fun facts in the description lol See you again in half a year 😂
It doesn't really feel that long at all. Funny you say half a year because I can't even promise that's not accurate lol. Thanks for sticking around. Appreciate it!
Do you know what would make Arcane really profitable? Extended versions of its two seasons in Blue-Ray. Season 1 is as perfect as a show can be but adding a few minutes on every episode wouldn't hurt. Sell the Blue-Ray with these extra scenes and people would buy it. Season 2 on the other hand NEEDS an extended version since it felt like a more extreme case of the Lord of the Rings theatrical editions. People would buy that like crazy. Riot lacks vision. I don't know what kind of deal it would require but Netflix would get its show and Riot would have a way to make direct profits regardless streaming. I don't get how trash like Rebel Moon and the Hobbit get extended cuts but Arcane doesn't.
Most live action extended cuts use things that were already filmed and cut from the movie, but due to the way animation production works, with all editing taking place at the storyboard stage with very few exceptions, there aren’t really any finished scenes on the cutting room floor - they’d have to be animated just for this release, which would cost millions (far more than most extended editions) It just doesn’t really make financial sense
@Arakus99 Of course they would need extra budget for that. Besides, have you considered how much stuff they shot and how much expensive VFX was in the extended versions of the movies I mentioned? Some productions do this in advance. Arcane has had the audience to extend both seasons and the audience will justify the investment through purchase. Of course it would have a level of risk just like every other investment.
I would definitely like that if they could justify it. That way everyone might get what they want. I feel like someday when it would fall under nostalgia something of the sort could potentially happen
@NextGenNovelist It's not about extending it years later. It's about doing it now to boost it financially. I don't understand what happened with media and the lack of extended cuts. It's like this model was abused so badly by the Hobbit films no one wants to do it now.
I really like what you've done there. Thank you. I don't know how they will do with the IP, the retcons, the new cannon and the formats, censureship and all things that makes it difficult to let the LoL Universe to stay beloved and respected, but I agree with you that keeping it in two seasons was the best decision they could have make. I don't agree with what they chose to shove in it, but I understand all of it, and I make my peace with that.
The first video of 2025 and my second real attempt at going in the direction my channel was originally meant to go. Hopefully whoever watches this video enjoys it. Let's see how this goes...
The irony of Arcane trying not to stay longer than they should... is that they ended sooner than they should. This story should have been a 3 season story. It needed to breath a bit more.
The way season 2 is structured it wouldn't work if it was extended in 2 seasons. I see two ways for an extended version to work.
A) They make each Act 6 episodes long to give the story the time it needs to breathe and expand on everything. They release one Act per year starting in 2023 and ending in 2025. With this we would have just gotten a bigger Act 2 that would have ended with the death of Isha and Vander.
B) Alternatively they would simply expand the episodes we got with the extra dialogue, extended scenes, connecting scenes and extra scenes needed to make the story flow better. Give each episode as much time as it needs. Some might only need 5-10 minutes (Act I episodes don't need that much) and others would need a lot more (the last episodes would have to be much longer considering their content).
It could've worked as a 2 season story if it simply continued the story of season 1, without overreaching with trying to tie it together with future noxian story (mel's magical powers+blackrose)
and the sappy story about forgiveness and not inventing hextech supposedly solving every issue in the world
breathe*
They had to introduce new heroes to sell more skins so they had to hurry up and get to noxus.
I have quipped that the bulk of Arcane Season 2 criticisms are that it ends (an ironic observation, given this video!). While there were a few skimmed bits (Viktor's turn to the dark side, no hint of Maddie's, how the Zaunites rallied, the Black Rose angle), the biggest problem was that there's no character resolution for people like Mel and Ekko at the end. It would have only needed 5 minutes, but they're just... left. I don't think an extra season was needed for this. 3x 4 part acts would have more than sufficed (although, again, we run into costs)
Arcane is just a love letter to anyone who enjoys entertainment
Oh really? The writing in season 2 doesn’t seem like a love letter to anything. Especially Vi fans.
@moonmoon2479 I think S2 writing was good except for some side characters you just need to give it more thought and time to process. Compared to S1 it had more of "show, don't tell" that's probably why some people didn't like it
To me it was so much more than entertainment. This is art at its highest form.
You raise pretty good points in your video. The sense I get with Season 2 is that so much story was cut out due to business decisions. This is most apparent with whatever happened between Jinx and Ekko after Ekko saved her, but it's also apparent with Caitlyn's dictator arc and Vi's pit-fighter arc. More time given to these storylines would have made Season 2...a season I still enjoyed...better.
Banger vid, even as a league of legends player I would love for riot to spend more time fleshing out their single player games like the jinx fixes everything series in the client. Love the perspective this video covers about this amazing series
I have watched a lot of videos on Arcane and I mean it when I say this is one of the best. I appreciate you actually considering the difficult realistic part of them choosing to stick to only two seasons but yet still pointing out how it's a good thing while many people whine (the same people who would definitely hate the next seasons and say this was the peak). Most people obviously will just review the show which is fine but this was a much more interesting topic. I'm also glad you're not being overly negative or positive with no real depth. This video was very well made and I hope more people who watched the show will give it a look
That means a lot to me. Just like I said in the video, you sometimes make something and you're on edge about what the response will be. Comments like this are greatly encouraging. Thanks!
"while many people whine (the same people who would definitely hate the next seasons and say this was the peak"
No. The story was rushed. And it needed more time for its character arcs and plotlines to breathe. The reason there's two seasons is because the creators wanted the story over and done with and move on to their next spinoff projects. The story really needed three seasons, not two. The only reason why people enjoyed the season as much as they did, is because of the pretty animation and the spectacular music. But the writing very much fell short, so much so the animation and the music had to make up for it, and it very clearly shows.
Don't try to gaslight me into thinking the show's not worth "whining" about. The season made mistakes. If you keep wearing rose-tinted glasses and excuse those flaws, the creators will carry those mistakes into their future projects. It wont work because the new show wont have Arcane's season 1 character writing to get us to care about their new characters.
You're not doing them any favours defending their mistakes.
@@chrishaven1489 Sorry in advance for my long comment.
I already said I'm glad this video isn't "positive without any depth" because I understand the show isn't flawless. What you don't understand however is that it doesn't make it bad or a failure, especially not when it's overall highly rated. You can attribute those high ratings to whatever you want.
Not sure if you watched this video fully or not, but the point of it is that they planned for 2 seasons, and they did just that in spite of what people demanded. That is definitely something that needs to be done more often. Everyone loved The Mandalorian's first 2 seasons, but then now they're saying it fell off in season 3. Not saying they're wrong, but I'm saying it's proof that sometimes it's best to walk away from the table with your dignity still intact.
I don't think it's occurred to many of you that you might be expecting more from Riot than they could actually give you. Many times shows are good with starting out, but not concluding. If they did 3 seasons, maybe it would have been better fleshed out in season 2, I get that, but that doesn't mean season 3 wouldn't have still been a problem, and the ending could have turned out even worse. Game of Thrones is proof of how even with a 8 seasons the ending can still end up rushed. Walking Dead's fandom has made their thoughts on that conclusion known and it had 11 seasons. House of the Dragon season 2 is getting critiqued.. Squid Game season 2 is catching a lot of slack too. All these shows have more than 2 seasons already or will, yet that's not saving them from the heat. So more seasons isn't always the answer.
Riot already won with Arcane. We can critique them so they understand what we think can be improved, but I'm not going to throw tomatoes at them when they still produced a video game show that was a great effort overall.
You can say this and that about how the show resolved, but the response to the trailer they just released speaks for itself. If you want to convince yourself that's because of "rose-tinted glasses" because you don't agree, I can't do much about that
@@emily-chan3848I 100% agree with u. And even with the flaws I still find arcane beautiful.. I even loved season 2. I got emotionally attached to the characters. And while some characters may have had poor writing, I feel like jinx had an amazing arc with great writing. I think that’s what got me hooked to the second season because I loved seeing jinx’s story. I know that a lot of others like it too. It’s flawed but beautiful.. and not just because of the animation..
@@emily-chan3848 "You can attribute those high ratings to whatever you want."
I attribute it to the fantastic animation and music that very much carried the writing of this season. And the reason why people care about the characters is because of how they were written in the first season. They're not gonna have that advantage in the next project. If they handle their new characters the same way they handled their old ones in the second season, their new show is gonna blow up in their face.
You're listing all these bad shows and conveniently omitting shows that do work with more than two seasons. Like Breaking Bad. You think that show would work as well as it did if it had only 2-3 seasons to work with. The reason why Breaking Bad works is because the show had time to accommodate the arcs and transformations the characters go through. If Breaking Bad only had 2-3 seasons, Walter White's transformation would've been rushed and unrealistic. That's the problem with Arcane's second season.
Their character arcs went through 2 seasons worth of character development in a single season, as a result a lot of vital beats were missing from a lot of character arcs.
If Arcane's story worked with 2 seasons, I'd be happy for it to have 2 seasons. But it didn't work. They rushed through important character beats and developments, characters made off-character,180 decisions, and they abandoned the grounded, nuanced themes of the first season to make way for a shallow final battle you'd expect from an mcu movie.
But dont worry, it looks and sounds so pretty. I'm sure that shallow writing will help audiences care about their new batch of characters.
"So more seasons isn't always the answer."
The answer is how many seasons it takes to tell the story right. 2 seasons is very clearly not the number for Arcane. Rushing a story that needed more time is just as bad as stretching it out when you don't know how to end the story. Shows aren't better the fewer seasons they have, and the reverse isn't true either. That's not how stories work.
"Riot already won with Arcane"
No, it didn't win. The second season was worse than the first. What makes you think the trajectory of their future projects won't continue that downward trend? What makes you think the first season might not actually be just lightning in a bottle? An isolated incident, not to be repeated again? By all accounts a lot of the writers who worked on the first season were let go. There's a pattern there.
But here you are, saying Riot already won. Congratulations. People like you are giving them license to ignore the flaws of the second season and carry those flaws onto their next projects. Because not enough people are calling them out on their faults. Because "they've already won", apparently. Let's see if that attitude works out for their next spinoff series.
Like I said, you're not doing them any favours defending them
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T COME BACK FROM THE DARKNESS LIKE THIS WTFFF I WASN'T READY !!
Damn amazing video. Arcane really is a masterpiece in animation and story telling.
Also the video itself was really high quality!!! (would have never been able to tell you edited it on just your phone 0w0)
Can’t wait to see what you have in store for us in 2025 :3
First time I've ever done that, it was definitely interesting lol
Agreed. Even with the flaws of s2, it’s flawed but beautiful. I still managed to get invested into each character and was able to catch up. The main character I had a problem with was vi bcs her writing wasn’t great. But jinx’s writing was amazing and that what elevated the season for me as I loved seeing jinx’s growth and emotional rollercoaster..
@@atomicaaron6720I agree i think most people agree that season 2 was great but flawed but even with its flaws it’s absolutely great television
@Jack_c18GB 100%. I would still like riot to take on the criticism though, would be nice to get something even greater.. I just don’t mind applauding what we got.. which wa beautiful
@@atomicaaron6720What growth?
OMG MY FACE LIT UP WHEN I SAW YOU UPLOADED IM SO HAPPY YOURE BACK!!!! EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE I CHECK IF U UPLOADED AND YOU FINALLY DID
Yeah, I just wanted to make this video. Don't have plans for any more anytime soon though, but thank you for your comment. I appreciate it!
Such a great and interesting video! I'm glad you loved the show and I hope this isn't the last we hear from you
It won't be the last, but it might be a while still 😅
Lol, they are milking the show but in a different way. 6 new spin-off are already in the making.
So well stated--the financial and artistic decisions both made a two season story the only possible valid call -- though I've heard some say they'd have preferred lesser animation and more episodes. To which I say, how can you even live on the same planet as me?
In any case, story length isn't something you can easily change after four-plus years of development...probably the biggest problem with The Hobbit movies was the decision to stretch the story out after years of working on a two-movie adaptation. It's why the first one felt cohesive, at least, while the second and third...had moments.
The people saying they'd prefer lesser animation might have been satisfied, but then plenty of other people would complain that it dropped in quality. You can't please everyone, but judging by the amount of goodwill they still seem to have with most of their audience, despite what naysayers say, they clearly made the right call
Simply beautiful, love your videos on any game or show
Thanks a lot !
Welcome back!!
Thank you!
Arcane season 2 should've been 4 acts to truly conclude it without it feeling rushed. This way it truly wrapped up well. Going from 9 to 12 episodes would've been more than enough. This way it wouldn't feel like it had gaps.
Another lesson i'd say for them, is don't change characters entirely to where we barely recognize them. Tweaking i understand, but they completely changed Viktor and it was a hit or miss situation. The lore is there for a reason, and i believe creators will thrive more if they follow it closely. Not just with league, but with any series
Season 2 was a hot mess. You don’t need to overstay your welcome, but if you want to tell all of the stories of season 2, it needed to be extended to 3 seasons. The season was bloated and had no room to breathe.
@@BeefyChud 3 full seasons would've been too much actually. The fans would then complain about wasting their time with unnecessary fillers, stifling the engaging pace. (Like Jayce / Ekko / Mel not showing up for an entire season or something, Vi just in the fighting pits for 5 episodes etc)
But I agree 9 eps weren't enough. Imo , S2 having like 12 episodes would've been just enough.
@ agreed
@@Vario69Definitely. I really do think there are easier ways to make the story feel deeper and have more of those character beats we needed. Little scenes can even slightly resolve the story better than it already did. I’ll give some examples:
Vi’s brash decision to join the enforcers both in the first episode and episodes 2-3. In episode 1 we could’ve been recapped in a scene where it focuses on Vi’s mind and regrets for helping Jinx all this time, therefore making a much more resolving piece of character growth to switch sides. In episode 2 and 3 we could’ve seen Vi’s struggles and concerns for Caitlyn’s questionable decisions of “gassing” Vi’s home. Without it, it feels too rushed for her character to do.
Also things like Ekko and Jinx preparing for war (resolving Jinx’s hero arc that was never shown on screen). I easily think that this season could’ve been so much better with even the smallest scenes
Season Two could have been longer (two/three episodes more) to allow the plots and arcs to breathe more given it's greater scope and stakes compared to Season One. Yet it was excellent and I appreciate their decision to end it on a high note and not overstay its welcome.
I am glad you note and praise the restraint and integrity to make this a two season show.
LEGEND IS BACK SLAYYYYY
financial miss?
well
would need to see the whole balance sheet
how much did Netflix pay?
what about the revenues of the blue ray boxes?
and the merchandising? You know there will be people who will wear the Cerberus leather jacket and use the mug and, and and...
at the end of it, I would be surprised if Riot didn't at least get even... for something that is a big advert for their core business...
I won't play LoL or the other little game, but the MMO? I may be tempted (hell, I played EQ1 for years and am still fond of it... just avoid the trap of it (any MMO) becoming a "factory job" and you're golden)
As a person who struggles to accept new shows (I see spoilers as teasers, for crying out loud - I watched Arcane after seeing "honest trailers" 😅) AND to put up with protracted plotlines, I love shows like Arcane who hnow when to stop, especially if they meke them rewatchable.
You might be correct, but what if they didn’t rush the story and had… say, another Act or two to tell the same story to the same endpoint? Or even just split the second season in two, so we’re sitting in things longer?
Not that I can talk from a logistical creative standpoint, mind you; I wasn’t there. And even telling the same story and making it too long might not work. But… I dunno; did we really need LeBlanc and the Black Rose? Could they have maybe been held off until after the Piltover/Zaun conflict? Or other stuff…? Really, I can’t say for sure; I do believe that every end point in the series is the correct decision, even if I feel that the getting there wasn’t as fleshed out as I would have liked.
Great video! I love Arcane.
Mel, my beloved.
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Bro was thinking so hard how he was not going to be like Game of Thrones that he forgot short stories need to be…you know…planned through? It’s not as easy as saying you’re going to cut it short, which I don’t believe is even true that it’s the vision they had from the very start, they had introduced too many intricacies to just get away with it with a budget crunch and almost no writers left. want a series that commits to staying contained from start to finish? Go watch Gravity Falls
Hot Take: I am very grateful for all 8 seasons of Dexter.
Lmao and I'm glad you are. Like I've been disappointed with how some shows went before, but I can still appreciate what they were overall
Arcane season 2 sucked ass compared to season 1
Wrong
Wrong on so many levels
Welcome back to the TH-camverse! I can't believe it's been 2 years since you did an actual video (not counting the livestream). Thanks for dropping this banger on us outta nowhere. It was really well done. Love the structure, the music and the message. 🫰🏼
Also love the fun facts in the description lol
See you again in half a year 😂
It doesn't really feel that long at all. Funny you say half a year because I can't even promise that's not accurate lol. Thanks for sticking around. Appreciate it!
Do you know what would make Arcane really profitable? Extended versions of its two seasons in Blue-Ray. Season 1 is as perfect as a show can be but adding a few minutes on every episode wouldn't hurt. Sell the Blue-Ray with these extra scenes and people would buy it. Season 2 on the other hand NEEDS an extended version since it felt like a more extreme case of the Lord of the Rings theatrical editions. People would buy that like crazy. Riot lacks vision. I don't know what kind of deal it would require but Netflix would get its show and Riot would have a way to make direct profits regardless streaming. I don't get how trash like Rebel Moon and the Hobbit get extended cuts but Arcane doesn't.
Most live action extended cuts use things that were already filmed and cut from the movie, but due to the way animation production works, with all editing taking place at the storyboard stage with very few exceptions, there aren’t really any finished scenes on the cutting room floor - they’d have to be animated just for this release, which would cost millions (far more than most extended editions)
It just doesn’t really make financial sense
@Arakus99 Of course they would need extra budget for that. Besides, have you considered how much stuff they shot and how much expensive VFX was in the extended versions of the movies I mentioned? Some productions do this in advance. Arcane has had the audience to extend both seasons and the audience will justify the investment through purchase. Of course it would have a level of risk just like every other investment.
I would definitely like that if they could justify it. That way everyone might get what they want. I feel like someday when it would fall under nostalgia something of the sort could potentially happen
@NextGenNovelist It's not about extending it years later. It's about doing it now to boost it financially. I don't understand what happened with media and the lack of extended cuts. It's like this model was abused so badly by the Hobbit films no one wants to do it now.
I really like what you've done there. Thank you. I don't know how they will do with the IP, the retcons, the new cannon and the formats, censureship and all things that makes it difficult to let the LoL Universe to stay beloved and respected, but I agree with you that keeping it in two seasons was the best decision they could have make.
I don't agree with what they chose to shove in it, but I understand all of it, and I make my peace with that.
This is a mature take, and I appreciate it