I couldn’t be more impressed with the acting abilities of Tony and Max the scenes they are now playing must take a real toll on them both emotionally and physically the quality of this work is beyond belief the story they are telling is real and affects so many people I couldn’t think of a better couple to tell the story in the way that they have.
I do hope they put their love on ice for a minute and develop the characters individually but still keep them in each other’s orbit. Callum has been fighting a losing battle with Ben for a long time and it’s time for Ben’s character to pick of the pieces of his past and present trauma. The ghost of Paul has been hovering in their relationship from the start and how do you win against that?. I truly feel like Callum has no more to give at this point except friendship. I would love to see Ben go to therapy and maybe Callum accompany him in support but I don’t want Callum rushing to take him back either. There have to be boundaries.
Exactly this, they bring out the worst of each other, 90% of their time together has been nothing but constant misery and lies with Callum discovering more dark secrets and Ben emotionally blackmailing him to not get him sent down to prison forcing Callum to keep covering up for his crimes over and over and over and over and over and over to the point that Callum can't keep doing this anymore otherwise he'd lose his job while his selfish of a husband will keep committing more mischieves and be engaged with dodgy jobs without any consideration for Callum and his feelings and the minute Callum stands up for himself and gets fed up with Ben's behavior the latter starts pegging him to give him another chance to prove himself for a few weeks or months tops then he'll be back to doing a heist in an abandoned warehouse or stealing cars or human trafficking or whatever illegal job he and his dad are engrossed with. Callum deserves way better than this.
@@forzacmo9069 Agreed. I don’t think Ben has truly learned how to love. His brokenness and damage prevent him from knowing how to channel all that brews in him. He is impulsive and careless and expects Callum to move past his transgressions. I also find it annoying that everyone else expects Callum to love Ben in spite of his behavior. Ben being Ben. I don’t think enough was done to prove to us why Callum should love Ben so much. Helping him come out is one thing, but that blind devotion is abnormal.
Good thinking. If the writers want to develop these characters so that they resemble authentic individuals and so that their relationship develops, Ben going into therapy/counseling-with Callum supporting him-would be a good start.
I agree Callum is always cleaning up Ben mess. Ben beat up people including his nephew. Yet Callum is supposed to ignore Ben crimes. Callum deserves better. Ben also guilt trips Callum over Paul. Callum needs to grow date a nice gay man who doesn't have Ben drama. Ben is a shit husband it gets boring seeing Callum sacrifice his integrity just to help Ben.
Ok, I just want to fast forward to the time where the truth is out and Ben is not alone in this, where everyone he loves is there to support him, how many episodes would it take for Ben to tell the truth, if they drag this for a month, I swear…..!!!!😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
could go on for a while this, meena in emmerdale was allowed to murder n kidnap at will, it took a drop a TV viewer ratings b4 emmerdale brought that story line to an end
A month?. That makes me laugh. They dragged grays story for 3 years. Knowing this show, Im pretty sure they are going to make Lewis the next gray and drag this out for years.
drake meena gave emmerdale the highest ratings it ever had in a very long time so that's not true at all. The writers even said they wanted to keep her around for years due to her popularity but knew it wouldn't be possible.
Couldn't agree more, Justin. I just started to watch a few episodes of this Soap casually and became totally engrossed in Ben's / Max's acting skills ... he makes what is quite a crap script most of the time and often ridiculous plots really riveting! Cheers
Max Bowden (Ben) is a fantastic actor ... Magnificent to watch and really gets me in every time. He is given a crap script and so many unbelievable story lines and plots to work with, but he really pulls it off, makes them believable and keeps me watching and wanting more. I reckon he's one of the best characters in a Soap I've ever seen. Thanks 'Ben', you're Good, Mate!
Callum needed to do this anyways. Ben has not been right with callum way before all this come about. Callum needs better and Ben clearly wasn't over his first love tbh
Of course he wasn't over his first love but he moved on and he did love Callum and maybe he still loves Callum. Callum is the first person he allowed himself to fall in love with after paul
I think it’s ultimately cause callum has never gotten a storyline that’s focused solely on him that puts him in the focus, like if callum got a really heavy storyline that put him front and center (kinda like how jean has mental health storylines or Linda with her alcoholism) tony clay would definitely get the award nominations,
@@sumaiya5916 very true and then unfortunately covid hit the following year and the award shows were cancelled so he never got recognition. It sucks for him tbh
The real tragedy of this moment is, Ben's mind is already breaking. Ever since the attack where Callum got hurt, Ben's PTSD has been in control of his mind. But even with everything else, even with the assault from Lewis ... there was still a chance they could've survived. If Callum had been more willing to listen, if Ben hadn't been such a Mitchell or been brave enough to just say to Callum what had happened, there was maybe a chance they could've gotten through this. Because Ben is just barely holding it together. But the moment goes. Callum leaves and that's the moment when Ben's psyche shatters. All this pain just catches up to him, and he can't hold it back anymore. It's gut-wrenching.
Oh this getting good. Use to be the reason I couldn't turn away from Robron. It's never really over, It was over for me and my husband for 4 days last month. Now we are happy again.
There is still love between them. He must tell him the truth and seek help. They could work things out together as before, but they need to start talking openly. Ben can change with Callum, but it takes time
Ben seeking help to grow: that’s the key. Unless that happens with Ben growing in self-awareness, he’s going to stay an angry, impulsive, secretive, self-centered character. We need to see more facets of Ben. Maybe his fragility in the wake of the rape will lead to that. Fingers crossed.
This is sad but I do feel like they may get back together in the future. But for now it’s bests if they have some time apart because Callum needs time to heal from all this hurt and if Ben does want this to work out he has to initiate that.
In an online post, and so sorry I don't have a link to provide, about an interview with Max Bowden, Mr. Bowden apparently said that the rape storyline will last 9 weeks. If that's true, then we're only in week 1 with 8 more weeks to go. This subject is intense and important but very exhausting. From what I've read in the comments here in Zebra5702's space (oh, and thank you so much Zebra5702 for providing these clips, it's wonderful) it seems to me hardcore Ballum fans can weather a prolonged storyline, but if EE really wants to open this topic to a wider audience, then I sure hope Mr. Bowden is correct--I'm not sure most casual viewers will tune in to watch if it goes longer than 9 weeks. Even I'm already starting to get emotionally drained. So please EE, let's see what happens to Lewis and how does he go? (we know AOs done filming for EE) And though some might not believe it, I want Callum and Ben back, but with a caveat, Ben is changed so that he starts behaving like an adult man, and not an arrested adolescent. It's tiring watching Ben always turn into mini-Phil. Do better with Ben EE!!
No one deserves what happened to Ben, but he did still cheat on Callum by going to Lewis in the first place and making moves on him. Even when Callum didn't want him seeing Lewis, he still chose to go over there and confide in him. This is gonna take time on both sides to heal and make up their relationship.
@@hazie8836 I hope not. Technically speaking this particular thing wasn’t even ben’s fault he was sexually assaulted. I really hope Kalin finds out the truth somehow and they get back together because they may have their faults but they are perfect together in my opinion
@@taylorphinney6711 Ben still cheated before the assault. He downloaded the app with the intention of cheating & he came onto Lewis. Also if Callum hadn’t sent that picture of him and lexi, he would have gone all the way with Lewis anyway.
I have watched Ben and Callum’s story unfold since June 2019 when they first kissed and stopped watching months ago because the direction Ben and Callum were going in was not what I fell in love with but recently I’ve been watching the odd few scenes again and this this has made me cry over Ballum for the first time since their wedding and I can’t describe the pain of knowing how much they both went through to be together and the fact the rings have Together Forever engraved in them and that’s it over what makes it worse is that Ben has been sexuality assaulted and Callum has no idea what he is going through I thought it couldn’t get any worse after the Christmas break up but it has
Hi Sir Ransom ... yes, know what you mean ... this is taking it's toll on us all! The emotion we viewers have to put into this story is exhausting! Cheers
It’s hard to be sympathetic towards Ben as he clearly cheated before he got assaulted. If Callum didn’t send that photo of himself and lexi then Ben would have gone all the way with the barman anyways.
What happened to Ben was VERY wrong but Callum doesn't know about that and he is right about the app etc. Ben did intend to cheat... I just hope Ben tells Callum the truth and they work towards fixing their marriage.
did you hear that? yep, that's me crying in the corner. i love them so much that watching this episode really ripped my heart off of my chest. after everything they've been through since 2019, i'm just hoping that this is not how it ends between them because they're both are not in their right headspace. they've been through stuff; Callum just tried to be brave despite the trauma and now Ben has to deal with r***d. and as much as i love Callum stands up for himself and not letting himself to be a doormat, this is even worse than the Christmas breakup and i just can't deal with it. i really hope Callum finds out about what Lewis did and be there to support Ben because if they can get through this, they will be stronger than ever. #Ballum for live!
@@DemarD__D what lewis did was disgusting but ben still cheated on callum, he went on a dating/hookup app and proceeded to have sex with him. Whether or not he was raped, he still cheated.
@@DemarD__D yeah the assault wasn’t his fault but Ben still cheated before that. He downloaded the dating app with the intention of cheating & he came onto Lewis first. Also he would of went all the way with lewis if Callum hadn’t sent that picture of him and lexi.
At this point, Callum and Ben really need to get divorced... Callum can offer support to Ben when learns the truth about Lewis assaulting Ben... but they clearly do not work well as husbands.
Exactly this, they bring out the worst of each other, 90% of their time together has been nothing but constant misery and lies with Callum discovering more dark secrets and Ben emotionally blackmailing him to not get him sent down to prison forcing Callum to keep covering up for his crimes over and over and over and over and over and over to the point that Callum can't keep doing this anymore otherwise he'd lose his job while his selfish of a husband will keep committing more mischieves and be engaged with dodgy jobs without any consideration for Callum and his feelings and the minute Callum stands up for himself and gets fed up with Ben's behavior the latter starts pegging him to give him another chance to prove himself for a few weeks or months tops then he'll be back to doing a heist in an abandoned warehouse or stealing cars or human trafficking or whatever illegal job he and his dad are engrossed with. Callum deserves way better than this.
yay callum finally having some self respect. boo that its happening when ben is at his lowest. why can no one in this show read body language or use common sense
Tony Clay is an amazing actor in this scene you see the pain and anguish. Ben had intention to cheat on Callum you cannot ignore that point. Callum loves Ben but he can't take the drama and bullshit anymore. Regardless of the rape Callum and Lewis are correct. Ben was looking for sex despite being married. I doubt it will happen but I hope Callum can get a new love interest and please do not make it Lewis. Ben is a shit husband.
@@nesa2000 do you suppose he thought their marriage was over? Not saying it's an excuse but Ben was also pretty drunk and didn't seem like he was in the right state of mind to be making an decisions/consent to anything. This is only my opinion and I believe Lewis took advantage of Ben's intoxicated state
Knowing eastenders they’ll get divorced then in a couple of years they’ll both be back on cause they’re pretty much solidified as a endgame ship (similar to like jack and ronnie before they got ronnie killed off)
it is fair that calum does this but if only he knew that ben was sexually abused by that waiter maybe he would understand and possibly help ben overcome that abuse this is very complicate.
Ben was already talking with the waiter on the dating app. Then they were snogging and Ben wanted to have sex. If Callum didn’t sent the photo then they would have gone all the way.
only seen the exerts on here but I think it would have been more of a powerful story if they left the 'apps/cheating' out of it. Leave that for another story, unfortunately there is plenty of way it could have happened without the 'apps/cheating' stuff thrown in. Hope it isn't walked to a situation when they cant walk it back.
Putting the rape aside, now Ben can feel how Stacey felt when Martin dumped her because of Ben and his sick schemes and constant threats against Martin.
But you can't put the rape aside, he's not just feeling the end of his marriage. It's the shame and pain of the rape, the betrayal of his supposed friend. The worry of HIV. Everyone going at him every time he turns around. Stacey wasn't ever alone, Ben very much is.
@@slaterchest7153 @slaterchest Due to Ben's selfish action regarding Phil's attack in 2019 he used to constantly threaten Martin's family and to expose Stacey to the police unless Martin does what Ben asks him to do like doing illegal jobs for the Mitchells, participating in heists almost on a daily basis. He even played sick mind games with Martin like putting a wreath with Bex's name on his doorstep when Bex was struggling with suicide and he hired a gang who dangled him off over a bridge, and then due to Ben's constant threats about exposing Stacey if she returned to Walford he had to split up with her and make up a lie to make her stay away from Walford which eventually resulted in the affair he had with Ruby then all the war of Ruby/Martin/Stacey which ruined each one's life especially Stacey and Ruby. Just because Ban has been raped it doesn't mean we have to forget and gloss over his actions in the past that harmed the others like what he did to Keanu, Martin and his participation in human trafficking.
Ben got himself into this situation. He has to figure a way to get out of it and reclaim his marriage. Callum is the best thing Ben has going for himself.
As far as Callum is concerned Ben has brought all of this by himself, and all Ben's actions (up to receiving Callum's letter) were the definition of cheating.
@@tedthepup641 I agree ben will self harm in some way not like the cutting side but drinking heavily and being a bit careless as he doesnt have callum anymore and Kathy told him he was disappointed in him and Jay baso had a go at him aswell, tbf I hope we see more of that doctor ik its not likely but that doctor knew and ik he can't exactly say anything as he's a doctor but still
had to agree with callum here. There was intent. It was planned by Ben, when he downloaded that app. Callum deserves better. Hope he finds a better beau who will give him the love he deserves.
You don't know what you have till you lose it you cheated on your husband he don't want to take that no more will you love somebody you must be loyal and faithful to them but since you can't he decided to move on with his life
The intent to cheat was still there though and no marriage can survive when one half’s go to coping mechanism after every argument is to look for sex elsewhere
The fact that their kitchen is basically bare really makes the scene hit home even harder.
Max Bowden is a master at conveying his characters' emotions. Simply amazing
I couldn’t be more impressed with the acting abilities of Tony and Max the scenes they are now playing must take a real toll on them both emotionally and physically the quality of this work is beyond belief the story they are telling is real and affects so many people I couldn’t think of a better couple to tell the story in the way that they have.
Callum really is becoming my favorite evreytime I see him.
Tony Clay gets better and better.
Max and Tony deserve awards for this storyline
"SHUT UP! shut up." - Callum raised his voice for the third time in three years.
😂😂😂
Good observation. Ben has stepped on Callum too often.
I hope they're not planning to drag this out too long, it's really hard to watch, Max and Tony are eating this up though
They will def be together, but it's gonna be a long road ahead of them, writers like to drag this a lot.
I do hope they put their love on ice for a minute and develop the characters individually but still keep them in each other’s orbit. Callum has been fighting a losing battle with Ben for a long time and it’s time for Ben’s character to pick of the pieces of his past and present trauma. The ghost of Paul has been hovering in their relationship from the start and how do you win against that?. I truly feel like Callum has no more to give at this point except friendship. I would love to see Ben go to therapy and maybe Callum accompany him in support but I don’t want Callum rushing to take him back either. There have to be boundaries.
Exactly this, they bring out the worst of each other, 90% of their time together has been nothing but constant misery and lies with Callum discovering more dark secrets and Ben emotionally blackmailing him to not get him sent down to prison forcing Callum to keep covering up for his crimes over and over and over and over and over and over to the point that Callum can't keep doing this anymore otherwise he'd lose his job while his selfish of a husband will keep committing more mischieves and be engaged with dodgy jobs without any consideration for Callum and his feelings and the minute Callum stands up for himself and gets fed up with Ben's behavior the latter starts pegging him to give him another chance to prove himself for a few weeks or months tops then he'll be back to doing a heist in an abandoned warehouse or stealing cars or human trafficking or whatever illegal job he and his dad are engrossed with.
Callum deserves way better than this.
@@forzacmo9069 Agreed. I don’t think Ben has truly learned how to love. His brokenness and damage prevent him from knowing how to channel all that brews in him. He is impulsive and careless and expects Callum to move past his transgressions. I also find it annoying that everyone else expects Callum to love Ben in spite of his behavior. Ben being Ben. I don’t think enough was done to prove to us why Callum should love Ben so much. Helping him come out is one thing, but that blind devotion is abnormal.
Good thinking. If the writers want to develop these characters so that they resemble authentic individuals and so that their relationship develops, Ben going into therapy/counseling-with Callum supporting him-would be a good start.
Agreed, they need to separate and work on themselves. They never should have gotten married in the first place.
I agree Callum is always cleaning up Ben mess. Ben beat up people including his nephew. Yet Callum is supposed to ignore Ben crimes. Callum deserves better. Ben also guilt trips Callum over Paul. Callum needs to grow date a nice gay man who doesn't have Ben drama. Ben is a shit husband it gets boring seeing Callum sacrifice his integrity just to help Ben.
Ok, I just want to fast forward to the time where the truth is out and Ben is not alone in this, where everyone he loves is there to support him, how many episodes would it take for Ben to tell the truth, if they drag this for a month, I swear…..!!!!😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
could go on for a while this, meena in emmerdale was allowed to murder n kidnap at will, it took a drop a TV viewer ratings b4 emmerdale brought that story line to an end
A month?. That makes me laugh. They dragged grays story for 3 years. Knowing this show, Im pretty sure they are going to make Lewis the next gray and drag this out for years.
drake meena gave emmerdale the highest ratings it ever had in a very long time so that's not true at all. The writers even said they wanted to keep her around for years due to her popularity but knew it wouldn't be possible.
This is the Christmas storyline for sure. It will provably a deeply end too with having this Lewis guy turn into a serial offender like Gray.
Me too I just want Ben to tell everyone what happened... but remember its an important storyline so its meant to be long just allow it.
They seriously had to do it 6 years after Robrons break up
Callum is going to feel like shit when he finds out.
Poor Ben. Phenomenal acting from Max Bowden. 👏🏻
Couldn't agree more, Justin. I just started to watch a few episodes of this Soap casually and became totally engrossed in Ben's / Max's acting skills ... he makes what is quite a crap script most of the time and often ridiculous plots really riveting! Cheers
The saddest, most heartbreaking scene ever
Max Bowden (Ben) is a fantastic actor ... Magnificent to watch and really gets me in every time. He is given a crap script and so many unbelievable story lines and plots to work with, but he really pulls it off, makes them believable and keeps me watching and wanting more. I reckon he's one of the best characters in a Soap I've ever seen. Thanks 'Ben', you're Good, Mate!
Poor Callum
Callum needed to do this anyways.
Ben has not been right with callum way before all this come about. Callum needs better and Ben clearly wasn't over his first love tbh
Of course he wasn't over his first love but he moved on and he did love Callum and maybe he still loves Callum. Callum is the first person he allowed himself to fall in love with after paul
You don't get just over someone you were in love with who got beaten to death. It's not the same as just having an ex.
@@mrdr0161 didn't say it was. But callum was allways a replacement. Ben doesn't genuinely love callum or he wouldn't of done what he done
Why is Tony clay never put forward at the acting awards? He's clearly the best actor on the show as seen by these scenes
Agreed: Tony Clay is brilliant. He has so grown into this role and deserves a helluva lot of credit
@@nesa2000 that's exactly right!
I think it’s ultimately cause callum has never gotten a storyline that’s focused solely on him that puts him in the focus, like if callum got a really heavy storyline that put him front and center (kinda like how jean has mental health storylines or Linda with her alcoholism) tony clay would definitely get the award nominations,
@@phylasvell he did with his coming out story back in 2019
@@sumaiya5916 very true and then unfortunately covid hit the following year and the award shows were cancelled so he never got recognition. It sucks for him tbh
The real tragedy of this moment is, Ben's mind is already breaking. Ever since the attack where Callum got hurt, Ben's PTSD has been in control of his mind. But even with everything else, even with the assault from Lewis ... there was still a chance they could've survived. If Callum had been more willing to listen, if Ben hadn't been such a Mitchell or been brave enough to just say to Callum what had happened, there was maybe a chance they could've gotten through this. Because Ben is just barely holding it together.
But the moment goes. Callum leaves and that's the moment when Ben's psyche shatters. All this pain just catches up to him, and he can't hold it back anymore. It's gut-wrenching.
i think they are better off apart at the moment. Ben needs to see a therapist and work on himself. Even before this he was not treating Callum right.
it was when Ben dropped to his knees and broke down 😭
Me too when Callum said it was over my only thought was PLEASE NOOO😭🤧💔💔
@@taylorphinney6711 same here 😭
I am literally in tears.
Oh this getting good. Use to be the reason I couldn't turn away from Robron. It's never really over, It was over for me and my husband for 4 days last month. Now we are happy again.
Tony Clay é um dos melhores atores da nova geração. Ele é fantástico no personagem Callum. Surreal
Alguém que fala português 😍
Legal ver brasileiros por aqui.
Bacana ver brasileiros acompanhado essa novela tbm kkkk
Sim. Eu sou brasileira. Eu sou do nordeste do Brasil. Piauí-BR
@@adavasconcelos2658 Eu sou do Norte, Manaus - AM
There is still love between them. He must tell him the truth and seek help. They could work things out together as before, but they need to start talking openly. Ben can change with Callum, but it takes time
ok, he changed his mind at the last minute but he did initiate it. Callum really needs a big heart to forgive this.
Ben seeking help to grow: that’s the key. Unless that happens with Ben growing in self-awareness, he’s going to stay an angry, impulsive, secretive, self-centered character. We need to see more facets of Ben. Maybe his fragility in the wake of the rape will lead to that. Fingers crossed.
This is sad but I do feel like they may get back together in the future. But for now it’s bests if they have some time apart because Callum needs time to heal from all this hurt and if Ben does want this to work out he has to initiate that.
Crying for the second time now. This is a lot
In an online post, and so sorry I don't have a link to provide, about an interview with Max Bowden, Mr. Bowden apparently said that the rape storyline will last 9 weeks. If that's true, then we're only in week 1 with 8 more weeks to go. This subject is intense and important but very exhausting. From what I've read in the comments here in Zebra5702's space (oh, and thank you so much Zebra5702 for providing these clips, it's wonderful) it seems to me hardcore Ballum fans can weather a prolonged storyline, but if EE really wants to open this topic to a wider audience, then I sure hope Mr. Bowden is correct--I'm not sure most casual viewers will tune in to watch if it goes longer than 9 weeks. Even I'm already starting to get emotionally drained. So please EE, let's see what happens to Lewis and how does he go? (we know AOs done filming for EE) And though some might not believe it, I want Callum and Ben back, but with a caveat, Ben is changed so that he starts behaving like an adult man, and not an arrested adolescent. It's tiring watching Ben always turn into mini-Phil. Do better with Ben EE!!
Ben like an “arrested adolescent “: great characterization. Thanks for capturing the essence of the problem with Ben as a character.
Thoughtful commentary. Thx.
Poor Callum!!
this is heartbreakin .....
I wonder if Ben will tell his mum as she had a similar incident happen to her with James Willmott-Brown (showing my age now...)
And Louise Mitchell as well she will support Ban every step of way as well
No one deserves what happened to Ben, but he did still cheat on Callum by going to Lewis in the first place and making moves on him. Even when Callum didn't want him seeing Lewis, he still chose to go over there and confide in him. This is gonna take time on both sides to heal and make up their relationship.
Very well acted!!
this is more worse than the christmas breakup 😣😣
Ik but I think they r getting a divorce 😭😭😭
@@hazie8836 I hope not. Technically speaking this particular thing wasn’t even ben’s fault he was sexually assaulted. I really hope Kalin finds out the truth somehow and they get back together because they may have their faults but they are perfect together in my opinion
@@taylorphinney6711 Ben still cheated before the assault. He downloaded the app with the intention of cheating & he came onto Lewis. Also if Callum hadn’t sent that picture of him and lexi, he would have gone all the way with Lewis anyway.
Ohhh they'll be fine
Ian bale could support Ban Mitchell every step of way as well
I have watched Ben and Callum’s story unfold since June 2019 when they first kissed and stopped watching months ago because the direction Ben and Callum were going in was not what I fell in love with but recently I’ve been watching the odd few scenes again and this this has made me cry over Ballum for the first time since their wedding and I can’t describe the pain of knowing how much they both went through to be together and the fact the rings have Together Forever engraved in them and that’s it over what makes it worse is that Ben has been sexuality assaulted and Callum has no idea what he is going through I thought it couldn’t get any worse after the Christmas break up but it has
I need this storyline to hurry up it’s really breaking my heart😢😢😢
Hi Sir Ransom ... yes, know what you mean ... this is taking it's toll on us all! The emotion we viewers have to put into this story is exhausting! Cheers
Only love can make a golden wedding ring.
It’s hard to be sympathetic towards Ben as he clearly cheated before he got assaulted. If Callum didn’t send that photo of himself and lexi then Ben would have gone all the way with the barman anyways.
What happened to Ben was VERY wrong but Callum doesn't know about that and he is right about the app etc. Ben did intend to cheat... I just hope Ben tells Callum the truth and they work towards fixing their marriage.
Oh boi...I love this scene!
did you hear that? yep, that's me crying in the corner. i love them so much that watching this episode really ripped my heart off of my chest. after everything they've been through since 2019, i'm just hoping that this is not how it ends between them because they're both are not in their right headspace. they've been through stuff; Callum just tried to be brave despite the trauma and now Ben has to deal with r***d. and as much as i love Callum stands up for himself and not letting himself to be a doormat, this is even worse than the Christmas breakup and i just can't deal with it. i really hope Callum finds out about what Lewis did and be there to support Ben because if they can get through this, they will be stronger than ever. #Ballum for live!
And Grant Mitchell and Country Mitchell could support Ban every step of way as well
Whit until Lee Carter and Johnny Carter find out about Between calum and Ban
Good for you Callum! You finally grew a pair👏👏👏
ngl it wasnt bens fault because of what louis did
@@DemarD__D what lewis did was disgusting but ben still cheated on callum, he went on a dating/hookup app and proceeded to have sex with him. Whether or not he was raped, he still cheated.
He was raped but he did cheat on Callum
@@DemarD__D yeah the assault wasn’t his fault but Ben still cheated before that. He downloaded the dating app with the intention of cheating & he came onto Lewis first. Also he would of went all the way with lewis if Callum hadn’t sent that picture of him and lexi.
@@Exoexo355true
At this point, Callum and Ben really need to get divorced... Callum can offer support to Ben when learns the truth about Lewis assaulting Ben... but they clearly do not work well as husbands.
yeah because all they do is bicker like literally all the time
It's drama after drama. If they were a real relationship it would be absolutely toxic asf.
Exactly this, they bring out the worst of each other, 90% of their time together has been nothing but constant misery and lies with Callum discovering more dark secrets and Ben emotionally blackmailing him to not get him sent down to prison forcing Callum to keep covering up for his crimes over and over and over and over and over and over to the point that Callum can't keep doing this anymore otherwise he'd lose his job while his selfish of a husband will keep committing more mischieves and be engaged with dodgy jobs without any consideration for Callum and his feelings and the minute Callum stands up for himself and gets fed up with Ben's behavior the latter starts pegging him to give him another chance to prove himself for a few weeks or months tops then he'll be back to doing a heist in an abandoned warehouse or stealing cars or human trafficking or whatever illegal job he and his dad are engrossed with.
Callum deserves way better than this.
Right? Ben already started to cheat before he was raped…
Yeah, ultimately I think it’s best they divorce and let them both move on and heal AND MAYBE PUT THE HIT ON LEWIS THAT BE GOOD X
yay callum finally having some self respect. boo that its happening when ben is at his lowest. why can no one in this show read body language or use common sense
This is for the best. Ben was no good for Callum. He honestly should have done this after the incident with his brother at the hospital
I'm actually crying
Same here
This can only ens in two ways; Ben hurts himself or he hurts someone else, preferrable Lewis, but I don't like those two options at all.
Tony Clay is an amazing actor in this scene you see the pain and anguish. Ben had intention to cheat on Callum you cannot ignore that point. Callum loves Ben but he can't take the drama and bullshit anymore. Regardless of the rape Callum and Lewis are correct. Ben was looking for sex despite being married. I doubt it will happen but I hope Callum can get a new love interest and please do not make it Lewis. Ben is a shit husband.
No one can deny it: Ben was out to cheat on Callum. It went wrong but Ben was intent on cheating.
But he changed his mind so he didn't want sex anymore.
@@nesa2000 do you suppose he thought their marriage was over? Not saying it's an excuse but Ben was also pretty drunk and didn't seem like he was in the right state of mind to be making an decisions/consent to anything. This is only my opinion and I believe Lewis took advantage of Ben's intoxicated state
Max Bowden is also an amazing actor in this scene
Knowing eastenders they’ll get divorced then in a couple of years they’ll both be back on cause they’re pretty much solidified as a endgame ship (similar to like jack and ronnie before they got ronnie killed off)
This could be the end of Callum and Benjamin
At least Ben got his comeuppance for cheating on Callum. Hopefully now Lewis gets his comeuppance for assaulting Ben, and Ben gets justice.
it is fair that calum does this but if only he knew that ben was sexually abused by that waiter maybe he would understand and possibly help ben overcome that abuse this is very complicate.
How could he ever know unless Ben tells him? It’s up to Ben.
Ben was already talking with the waiter on the dating app. Then they were snogging and Ben wanted to have sex. If Callum didn’t sent the photo then they would have gone all the way.
hope is the last thing lose 😅🤷🏻♂️
I cried too. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
only seen the exerts on here but I think it would have been more of a powerful story if they left the 'apps/cheating' out of it. Leave that for another story, unfortunately there is plenty of way it could have happened without the 'apps/cheating' stuff thrown in. Hope it isn't walked to a situation when they cant walk it back.
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 noooooo omg
Poor Ben. This is so heartbreaking 😭😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔
Putting the rape aside, now Ben can feel how Stacey felt when Martin dumped her because of Ben and his sick schemes and constant threats against Martin.
But you can't put the rape aside, he's not just feeling the end of his marriage. It's the shame and pain of the rape, the betrayal of his supposed friend. The worry of HIV. Everyone going at him every time he turns around. Stacey wasn't ever alone, Ben very much is.
@@slaterchest7153 @slaterchest Due to Ben's selfish action regarding Phil's attack in 2019 he used to constantly threaten Martin's family and to expose Stacey to the police unless Martin does what Ben asks him to do like doing illegal jobs for the Mitchells, participating in heists almost on a daily basis. He even played sick mind games with Martin like putting a wreath with Bex's name on his doorstep when Bex was struggling with suicide and he hired a gang who dangled him off over a bridge, and then due to Ben's constant threats about exposing Stacey if she returned to Walford he had to split up with her and make up a lie to make her stay away from Walford which eventually resulted in the affair he had with Ruby then all the war of Ruby/Martin/Stacey which ruined each one's life especially Stacey and Ruby.
Just because Ban has been raped it doesn't mean we have to forget and gloss over his actions in the past that harmed the others like what he did to Keanu, Martin and his participation in human trafficking.
@@forzacmo9069 Maybe Ben wouldn't be so mess up if Martin didn't add to his trauma but dangling him off a roof top. Martin is FAR from a saint.
I get Callum breaking up with Ben after everything Bens done but Ben is now alone. All alone left to face this by himself until he tells someone
Ben got himself into this situation. He has to figure a way to get out of it and reclaim his marriage. Callum is the best thing Ben has going for himself.
@@nesa2000 true I hope they both get back together but they do kinda need a break to sort themselves out and talk to a bloody therapist
I can maybe see him self harming in some way whilst no one else knows
That doctor guy could see that it probably wasn’t consensual
As far as Callum is concerned Ben has brought all of this by himself, and all Ben's actions (up to receiving Callum's letter) were the definition of cheating.
@@tedthepup641 I agree ben will self harm in some way not like the cutting side but drinking heavily and being a bit careless as he doesnt have callum anymore and Kathy told him he was disappointed in him and Jay baso had a go at him aswell, tbf I hope we see more of that doctor ik its not likely but that doctor knew and ik he can't exactly say anything as he's a doctor but still
had to agree with callum here. There was intent. It was planned by Ben, when he downloaded that app. Callum deserves better. Hope he finds a better beau who will give him the love he deserves.
max and tony ate
You don't know what you have till you lose it you cheated on your husband he don't want to take that no more will you love somebody you must be loyal and faithful to them but since you can't he decided to move on with his life
Worse part of this show is this two yakkk
Still laughing at Max’s acting at the end. So bad 😂😂😂😂😂
Callum when you find out the truth about Lewis attacking Ben you will regret this you know
But why doesn't he know the truth? Because Ben won't tell him. Can you blame Callum?
@@nesa2000 it's not easy to say these things right away.
The intent to cheat was still there though and no marriage can survive when one half’s go to coping mechanism after every argument is to look for sex elsewhere
Exactly like Linda did with dean and she didn’t tell mick and he went mental
@@johnCenaFanSite Dean raped Linda out of nowhere. Ben was cheating on Callum before he was raped. He was all over that waiter before Callum text him.
ffs tell him what happened!
I want to win this house in local Nancy T Gandiddze
Such drama. He shouldn't have cheated. Easy.
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Why doesn’t Ben tell him!!??
Ben cheated before he was raped though.
It’s easier said than done
Because it's not that simple to admit to yourself that you have been raped let alone saying it to others.
Max cannot act!