Got my 23 manual late last year. This is the second car ive owned and while I knew it was going to be slightly underpowered as a college student it was the car that I could afford new. While I wish it came with a turbo or at least the 180hp the sport has, you get used to it. Im not sure how it would be with the cvt because of the drivetrain loss but the manual makes it easier to squeez all the "power" out. Fuel economy varies with any vehicle but with a mostly highway commute im hitting 26.2 mpg indicated by the onboard computer. This car is a good at being a daily nothing more nothing less. However the manual makes it more enjoyable and fun, sad to see it not offered in the next gen but thats how the industry goes.
The Canadian models are so different. I got a 2023 Sport in red, manual 6T transmission, 2.0 litre engine, sun roof, heated seats and steering wheel, power seats and larger info screen. It also has LED fog lights, and LED headlights that turn with the steering wheel, rear cross traffic alert and lane warning. It does not have air pressure monitor which is not even an option on any Crosstrek models in Canada. No eye sight, lane assist or adaptive cruise or auto start stop which I had on my wife's CVT Crosstrek. Mine has more options on it then the premium model in the USA.
Agree. 6th gear is for cruising. I had a Honda Fit 5MT back in the day that would be at 3500rpm at 80mph and would've killed for taller gear ratios at the top.
@@joelv4495 Yeah i have 2012 XV(EU market XV Crosstrek) with 6 speed manual and its very nice for trips and cruise driving. Only problem with mine is oil consumption. Its spacious and confortable and i do love how its "outdated" as in still having twistkey ignition and traditional radio while still having a backup camera in mfd. I just wish it was a a longer wagon like Levorg or Outback instead being a big-ish hatchback.
I love my 23 6mt .. drove home in fresh 13 inches of snow at 4am and I had no problems plowing thru snow . It maybe slow, but I still make it to work the same amount of time, as my v8 silverado
Fifth and sixth gears are overdrive gears. If you want to accelerate from sixth, you need to downshift to fourth. Are you trying to compare the Crosstrek to a sports car?
That is exactly my line of thought. If you want to accelerate from 6th without downshifting, then better get a fancy european car or a muscle car. This is an affordable Subaru. People should stop making videos comparing it to super mighty cars. In my case, although I had hit 100mph on my '23 Premium 6mt Crosstrek a couple times already, it is not made for speeding, very much less is a torque beast.
@@trpt18 True. In 4th its very peppy. Also if someone needs more then just go for WRX or Outback XT. I wish subaru just came to their senses and sold Levorg/WRX wagon with a stickshift and sold.it everywhere.
Happy to see that this 2023 Premium Crosstrek *with Foglights* *Does NOT* have: Push button Start /Keyless Entry(easier to steal); Sunroof(Hail will smash the glass and it eventually leaks); No Eyesight =Less Inadvertant Braking and Expensive to Align! And Happy that this Crosstrek has an Actual Manual HandBrake- Not Electric handbrake (when the batteries die, the Electric Brake will "seize the brakes", cant release, and you cant bump start the car!!).
As someone who owns a 2023 Crosstrek 6 speed - the car should have been in 2nd gear entering the freeway - not 3rd gear. 5:53 At full throttle, a traditional automatic would have downshifted into 2nd gear.
This is my work car and I enjoy the manual. Everything Zygrene said is true. The lumbar, annoying as it is at first, is actually fine on long trips. Zygrene is in CA but need to mention, this car is awesome in snow. The ‘23 is offered with a 2.5 MT in Canada, which kills me…Give us the 5-door WRX, SUBARU!
Yeah it annoys me how people want to glorify those stupid fob only systems. Pressing a button on a traditional key is better for me, besides i preffer twist key ignition, always have a control when i want to leave it in accessory mode without fidgeting with the Start button.
0:28 *2023* is the *Last Year* that Subaru is *selling a Manual Transmission Crosstrek* and a Manual, Physical, Mechanical Handbrake is important to have becuz it doesnt have electronic parts that would get wet and fail if it gets spilled on by coffee or tea!!
I used to have a Cavalier with 140hp but it weighted 2700lb and felt pretty peppy. I can imagine with so much extra weight and bigger wheels Crosstrek must feel like a dog with this engine
I have a 2.0 hybrid and yes, it is not the fastest one but hybrid helps to increase the midrange torque. I am very happy with it. Comfortable, very good in bad roads, great in curves for being a SUV and I also good on unpaved roads
2:12 "... no rear air vents...". There's probably air delivered via vents that run under the front seats. Not adjustable in any way. Just take off ducts from the front HVAC system. P.s. love the car. It will likely be my next, from the used market, after my trusty old 2006 Civic finishes turning back to dust (rust, soon). Honda, unfortunately, have lost their way. I'm sold not only on the Subaru late models with manual transmission, but also the simple hand brake. I just want sturdy, simple, and reliable.
i had no idea that these were offered in a manual so recently but that lack of power is crazy! i think id rather look for something on the used market in that price range with a manual and a bit more pep, even if it meant giving up some ride quality
I get that Subi boxes aren't rev monsters, but for a 2.0L engine, the EE20's 4750 rpm redline is absolutely criminal. Especially when the 2.5L RS taps out at 6100 rpm. Are we to assume the 2.0L revs are kept artificially low for an EPA rating of 33 mpg highway and 28 mpg city? Not when the 2.5L gets 34 mpg hwy and 27 mpg city. So what gives here?
I found that when using a K&N 1008 oil filter it flows more oil than the factory one and the variable cam timing is controlled by oil pressure and volume. Immediately after changing my oil with that filter I gained a bunch of power it’s quite peppy now. I’m thinking I changed the cam timing to a more aggressive curve. Btw my Crosstrek is a ‘23 6mt.
My gf has a 22 Crosstrek 6MT and it is very slow for highway merging. You need to be in 2nd gear to have some power and 3rd great when cruising if you want to pass.
I could live with the low power and the low/no tech to have a new manual hatch w/ amazing AWD for 25K- but in exchange for that I'd want something with better than 25 mpg, that's a tough sell.
I have been told by a frd working at subaru that crosstreks sold in the US are not built in Japan actually. Instead they are built in the US. The ones sold in Canada are still built in Japan though, including the 2024 models.
I've never driven the 6MT Crosstrek, but watching you struggle accelerating makes me happy I chose the CVT. I have a 2018 with 100k miles and I've never had acceleration issues. The CVT keeps the engine in the powerband when you floor it. Now it's my wife's car and I daily a 2023 BRZ, but the Crosstrek still feels fine when I drive it.
Listen, i own a 2009 honda civic auto. The 0-60 is about 11 seconds. Anything is better then that thing. Not to mention, once your up to speed you shouldnt have to speed up more often on the highway if you drive right
I have a premium 2018 forester 6MT with the 180hp (I think) 2.5L engine. It's still frustratingly slow, though not quite as bad as this. Why subaru won't pair the turbo 4 cylinder with a manual is baffling to me. I came from an STi to this, lol.
Me parece poco acertado pedirle un desempeño de un auto depotirvo a un auto que no es deportivo. El XW es un auto de ciudad tipo sedan con la posibilidad de tener un buen desempeño en todo terreno, y asi poder salir del asfalto. De mas está decir que lo que pides esta en otro segmento de subarú.
no driving aids is a massive plus lol.
No it's not. The driving aids in a CVT Crosstrek are excellent. Did a 5k mile road trip last year and absolutely love the adaptive cruise control.
@@patricklinkous You enjoy getting slowed down behind a vehicle you intend to pass?
No driving aids is great. Acceleration is totally fine. People constantly complain about that with the Crosstrek. Go get a WRX and stop complaining.
Subaru really should offer the Crosstrek with the 2.5 engine and the 6 speed manual transmission.
Forester had it. Just get 2014-2017 Forester or 2010-2015 Outback abd you will have 2.5L and 6speed.
WRX sports wagon in 6 speed manual transmission currently in Mexico 😢
I wish they'd put the BRZ's engine in the Crosstrek with a manual. Now that would be delightful combination.
You vould engine swap it. People swapped 2.4 turbo into Crosstrek so its definetly possible.
That would be sick AF. As far as swaps go, a dude put in a hi-lo manual transmission somewhere here on TH-cam and it's sick AF.
They currently are selling the WRX wagon in 6 speed manual transmission in,..... Mexico 😢
I'd drop a K24 and call it a day
Got my 23 manual late last year. This is the second car ive owned and while I knew it was going to be slightly underpowered as a college student it was the car that I could afford new. While I wish it came with a turbo or at least the 180hp the sport has, you get used to it. Im not sure how it would be with the cvt because of the drivetrain loss but the manual makes it easier to squeez all the "power" out. Fuel economy varies with any vehicle but with a mostly highway commute im hitting 26.2 mpg indicated by the onboard computer. This car is a good at being a daily nothing more nothing less. However the manual makes it more enjoyable and fun, sad to see it not offered in the next gen but thats how the industry goes.
The Canadian models are so different. I got a 2023 Sport in red, manual 6T transmission, 2.0 litre engine, sun roof, heated seats and steering wheel, power seats and larger info screen. It also has LED fog lights, and LED headlights that turn with the steering wheel, rear cross traffic alert and lane warning. It does not have air pressure monitor which is not even an option on any Crosstrek models in Canada. No eye sight, lane assist or adaptive cruise or auto start stop which I had on my wife's CVT Crosstrek. Mine has more options on it then the premium model in the USA.
Their trim levels also had different names.
I've seen these things with lifted suspensions and off-road tires. Totally would take this car up to the mountains.
It’s slow in the mountain highways at high elevation. Really bad.
@@ryanb8736 Speed complainers can fuck off with it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The power is fine... stop the drama...
I think so too.
Yeah you don’t need the 2.4 at all if you have the manual
Agree. 6th gear is for cruising. I had a Honda Fit 5MT back in the day that would be at 3500rpm at 80mph and would've killed for taller gear ratios at the top.
@@joelv4495 Yeah i have 2012 XV(EU market XV Crosstrek) with 6 speed manual and its very nice for trips and cruise driving. Only problem with mine is oil consumption. Its spacious and confortable and i do love how its "outdated" as in still having twistkey ignition and traditional radio while still having a backup camera in mfd. I just wish it was a a longer wagon like Levorg or Outback instead being a big-ish hatchback.
I love my 23 6mt .. drove home in fresh 13 inches of snow at 4am and I had no problems plowing thru snow . It maybe slow, but I still make it to work the same amount of time, as my v8 silverado
Fifth and sixth gears are overdrive gears. If you want to accelerate from sixth, you need to downshift to fourth. Are you trying to compare the Crosstrek to a sports car?
That is exactly my line of thought. If you want to accelerate from 6th without downshifting, then better get a fancy european car or a muscle car. This is an affordable Subaru. People should stop making videos comparing it to super mighty cars.
In my case, although I had hit 100mph on my '23 Premium 6mt Crosstrek a couple times already, it is not made for speeding, very much less is a torque beast.
@@trpt18 True. In 4th its very peppy. Also if someone needs more then just go for WRX or Outback XT. I wish subaru just came to their senses and sold Levorg/WRX wagon with a stickshift and sold.it everywhere.
I love the physical key start and open, very nostalgic.
This is a great car to take on the trails and in the city. Its power is so 1980’s. It’s drive is so 1980’s with modern tech and comfort.
Happy to see that this 2023 Premium Crosstrek *with Foglights*
*Does NOT* have:
Push button Start /Keyless Entry(easier to steal);
Sunroof(Hail will smash the glass and it eventually leaks);
No Eyesight =Less Inadvertant Braking and Expensive to Align!
And Happy that this Crosstrek has an Actual Manual HandBrake- Not Electric handbrake (when the batteries die, the Electric Brake will "seize the brakes", cant release, and you cant bump start the car!!).
no one need eyesigth just put attention to the road
As someone who owns a 2023 Crosstrek 6 speed - the car should have been in 2nd gear entering the freeway - not 3rd gear. 5:53 At full throttle, a traditional automatic would have downshifted into 2nd gear.
This is my work car and I enjoy the manual. Everything Zygrene said is true. The lumbar, annoying as it is at first, is actually fine on long trips. Zygrene is in CA but need to mention, this car is awesome in snow. The ‘23 is offered with a 2.5 MT in Canada, which kills me…Give us the 5-door WRX, SUBARU!
Greetings David, fyi in Canada as in the USA, 6mt is ONLY available with the 2.0 engine.
I have an 21 Impreza but I added an lower lumbar support cushion after the LED headlight upgrade.
It has keyless entry. You push the key fob unlock button and open the door. No key inserted in the door.
Yeah it annoys me how people want to glorify those stupid fob only systems.
Pressing a button on a traditional key is better for me, besides i preffer twist key ignition, always have a control when i want to leave it in accessory mode without fidgeting with the Start button.
0:28 *2023* is the *Last Year* that Subaru is *selling a Manual Transmission Crosstrek* and a Manual, Physical, Mechanical Handbrake is important to have becuz it doesnt have electronic parts that would get wet and fail if it gets spilled on by coffee or tea!!
What if the battery died with the brake on. You couldn't disengage the brake and push it out of the way.
I used to have a Cavalier with 140hp but it weighted 2700lb and felt pretty peppy. I can imagine with so much extra weight and bigger wheels Crosstrek must feel like a dog with this engine
Ya. It’s 0-60 is 10 seconds. It’s very 1980’s.
My friend just got one of these and he lets me drive it and it’s so damn slow
I have a 2.0 hybrid and yes, it is not the fastest one but hybrid helps to increase the midrange torque. I am very happy with it. Comfortable, very good in bad roads, great in curves for being a SUV and I also good on unpaved roads
Why does it matter that the infotainment doesn't do much other than android auto and nav? That's all it would be used for anyway.
I'm pretty sure he was judging it by the tiny screen before he realized it had AA and Carplay. The BRZ screen is much better.
2:12 "... no rear air vents...". There's probably air delivered via vents that run under the front seats. Not adjustable in any way. Just take off ducts from the front HVAC system. P.s. love the car. It will likely be my next, from the used market, after my trusty old 2006 Civic finishes turning back to dust (rust, soon). Honda, unfortunately, have lost their way. I'm sold not only on the Subaru late models with manual transmission, but also the simple hand brake. I just want sturdy, simple, and reliable.
i had no idea that these were offered in a manual so recently but that lack of power is crazy! i think id rather look for something on the used market in that price range with a manual and a bit more pep, even if it meant giving up some ride quality
I had one of these and really loved it.
I get that Subi boxes aren't rev monsters, but for a 2.0L engine, the EE20's 4750 rpm redline is absolutely criminal. Especially when the 2.5L RS taps out at 6100 rpm. Are we to assume the 2.0L revs are kept artificially low for an EPA rating of 33 mpg highway and 28 mpg city? Not when the 2.5L gets 34 mpg hwy and 27 mpg city. So what gives here?
CVT efficiency maybe?
Are these just slow or is it just that everyone drives them very slow?
I do not drive my CVT Crosstrek slowly. You just have to be willing to floor it.
I found that when using a K&N 1008 oil filter it flows more oil than the factory one and the variable cam timing is controlled by oil pressure and volume. Immediately after changing my oil with that filter I gained a bunch of power it’s quite peppy now. I’m thinking I changed the cam timing to a more aggressive curve. Btw my Crosstrek is a ‘23 6mt.
My gf has a 22 Crosstrek 6MT and it is very slow for highway merging. You need to be in 2nd gear to have some power and 3rd great when cruising if you want to pass.
I could live with the low power and the low/no tech to have a new manual hatch w/ amazing AWD for 25K- but in exchange for that I'd want something with better than 25 mpg, that's a tough sell.
Subaru flat4 have poor mpg but it’s better on the light weight BRZ…GR Corolla is the only awd hatch that gets 25mpg> but double the price😢
@@keiserious im assuming you ment include manual if not the Mazda 3 turbo hatchback gets 31 mpg and much much nicer/faster then this thing
@@BitcoinTo150K only manuals as OP said and the Mazda 3 turbo AWD starts at $29k wish it had the option.
I get 30 all the time..
You should experience it going up a canyon highway from 4500 to 9000+ ft.
8:15 No Engine Temp Guage,
No Coolant Guage,
No Oil Temp Guage.
Try looking at the options in the small center dash display :)
I don’t need any extras.
I have been told by a frd working at subaru that crosstreks sold in the US are not built in Japan actually. Instead they are built in the US. The ones sold in Canada are still built in Japan though, including the 2024 models.
The base and premium 2024 models are still made in Japan for US customers. The sport and limited models are made in Indiana.
For 2023 all the Crosstreks are built in Japan.
I've never driven the 6MT Crosstrek, but watching you struggle accelerating makes me happy I chose the CVT. I have a 2018 with 100k miles and I've never had acceleration issues. The CVT keeps the engine in the powerband when you floor it. Now it's my wife's car and I daily a 2023 BRZ, but the Crosstrek still feels fine when I drive it.
Listen, i own a 2009 honda civic auto. The 0-60 is about 11 seconds. Anything is better then that thing. Not to mention, once your up to speed you shouldnt have to speed up more often on the highway if you drive right
1:20 No Keyless Entry = No Wireless Car Theft :)!!
I have a premium 2018 forester 6MT with the 180hp (I think) 2.5L engine. It's still frustratingly slow, though not quite as bad as this. Why subaru won't pair the turbo 4 cylinder with a manual is baffling to me. I came from an STi to this, lol.
I have 2. People ask me how are they. I tell them it's good at everything. Not great.
Me parece poco acertado pedirle un desempeño de un auto depotirvo a un auto que no es deportivo.
El XW es un auto de ciudad tipo sedan con la posibilidad de tener un buen desempeño en todo terreno, y asi poder salir del asfalto.
De mas está decir que lo que pides esta en otro segmento de subarú.
puny engine kills engine. My TC is faster than this.