This was a rough episode to watch. When Missandei says dracarys I think that’s pretty much what made Dany make the decisions she makes from now on. The killing of the dragon really upset me and Jamie betraying the North and Brienne was just terrible. I couldn’t wait for this episode to be over with. I enjoyed y’alls reaction and commentary as always.
I could have done without Bron in exchange for BRAN TELLING ARYA AND SANSA THE TRUTH ABOUT JON. grrrr. The one scene I still miss to this day. I’m glad you guys have a good vibe and not buying into the negative. That’s why I’m here. I loved this show. 😁
Bron surviving the second Field of Fire is pure fan service; he serves no legit purpose from that point on. It would have been a better arc if he died saving Jaime.
I was the same way with those dragons! I couldn't believe it when they both died. Just shock, anger, and sadness. I also felt Brianne's loss of love. She really loved him. That broke my heart right along with her. Lots of emotions in this episode.
The episode with the worst scene in the entire series where they wipe away 8 seasons of Jamie's character development with the line "To be honest, I never much cared for them, innocent or otherwise." His whole motivation for killing the Mad King was to protect the innocent people from being massacred with wildfire. The scene between Jamie and Brienne where he confesses this was a major reason Gwendoline Christie took the role. Total and deliberate betrayal by Benioff and Weiss, starting at the beginning of season 7. Go back to Jamie's face at Cersei's coronation when he realizes she did exactly what he tried to prevent. But at the start of season 7, he's following her like a cowed puppy. Made no sense. It was at that point when they abandoned the series, I think. Season 7 and 8 were truncated. Characters that would have died if they had gotten into dangerous situations in previous seasons were miraculously getting saved (e.g. Bronn pulling Jamie out of the way of Drogon's mouth after dodging dragon fire by 6 inches 10 minutes earlier when Drogon destroyed the scorpion...)
Him saying that was stupid, but his returning to Cersei does make sense in terms of their story. Cersei is his ruination. For a true redemption arc, he would have to do something else that doesn't happen in this series (alluded to by Maggie the Frog).
I agree. The scene in episode 2 where Jamie knights Brienne was a true consummation of their love. That pseudo-sex scene was pure fan service and completely unnecessary.
@@NovaLena22, exactly. It probably has to do with the fact that I have quite a few platonic male friends, and people always wanna go there. I hate that attitude.
John was treated as a bastard all his life, the only thing he ever wanted was to be called John Stark. Now that he learned the truth, that he is actually a legitimate child and the rightful king of the Seven Kingdoms he is asked to keep it a secret. I think Danny is obsessed with the throne and as much of an honorable man John actually is this is something noone should ask of him.The whole situation should of course have been handled differently but there would be no drama otherwise.
It is completely unfair for Dany to expect Jon to sacrifice his truth because she wants that damn throne. Her obsession mirrors Stannis's obsession that he was the chosen one. It's not about the realm, but the ego.
Has really annoyed me how Cam has no confidence in Zay's ability to understand things, make connections, notice callbacks etc on his own. He feels the need to point everything out and launch into explanations that were never asked for, and in doing so talks over the whole next scene.
I dont why im torturing myself seeing these last 3 episodes, thr wounds amd saltiness has been re-opened , LOL 🤣 but im here for the reaction anyways 😆😂🤟
Just FYI they tool A LOT of crap over Jon not showing Ghost some love. And also, I liked Danny just fine but she didnt have a strategic bone in her body when it came to her dragons...js. I also wish the Hound would have lived personally. Sigh...but at least Sir Robert Strong, aka the mountain, is dead.
She's been nuts the whole time, always obsessed with the throne and threatening to destroy anyone in her way. She's only been held back by her friends and advisors. At the end of Season 8 we see what happens as she loses those advisors (Jorah, Missandei) or feels she can't trust them (Tyrion, Jon, Varis) and is left to her own ideas. There's plenty wrong with these final episodes, but I've never agreed with people mad about Dany's arc, it makes perfect sense to me.
Missandei's death was one of the roughest, for me, of the entire series. Didnt think they would do her like that, but was a great shocking moment tbh. One of the only truly pure, decent people throughout the series. (Missandei, Shireen & Podrick are the only ones I can think of)
Hero of Winterfell? I think that is not nearly enough credit. Hero of Westeros or Hero of the Realms of men. Winterfell is where it was fought, but Winterfell is not all she saved.
Except this is the one plot turn that we know beyond any doubt will not be a part of ASOIAF because B & W bragged how they took the defeat of the Dead away from Jon in order to "subvert expectations" and "girl power". It is nonsensical and the worst story decision of the entire series because it completely screws up so many in universe elements.
If Jon went up to Ghost, he would have tried to follow Jon. Remember Arya has to throw rocks at Nymeria to make her run away. The Starks are Wargs..All of them.
Agreed, Dany's been nuts the whole show, she just always had advisors to hold her back. In Season 8 we see the predictable result of her losing all those advisors or losing trust in them.
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This was a rough episode to watch. When Missandei says dracarys I think that’s pretty much what made Dany make the decisions she makes from now on. The killing of the dragon really upset me and Jamie betraying the North and Brienne was just terrible. I couldn’t wait for this episode to be over with. I enjoyed y’alls reaction and commentary as always.
I have the same reaction to any harm to dragons
I could have done without Bron in exchange for BRAN TELLING ARYA AND SANSA THE TRUTH ABOUT JON. grrrr. The one scene I still miss to this day. I’m glad you guys have a good vibe and not buying into the negative. That’s why I’m here. I loved this show. 😁
Bron surviving the second Field of Fire is pure fan service; he serves no legit purpose from that point on. It would have been a better arc if he died saving Jaime.
I was the same way with those dragons! I couldn't believe it when they both died. Just shock, anger, and sadness. I also felt Brianne's loss of love. She really loved him. That broke my heart right along with her. Lots of emotions in this episode.
The episode with the worst scene in the entire series where they wipe away 8 seasons of Jamie's character development with the line "To be honest, I never much cared for them, innocent or otherwise." His whole motivation for killing the Mad King was to protect the innocent people from being massacred with wildfire. The scene between Jamie and Brienne where he confesses this was a major reason Gwendoline Christie took the role. Total and deliberate betrayal by Benioff and Weiss, starting at the beginning of season 7. Go back to Jamie's face at Cersei's coronation when he realizes she did exactly what he tried to prevent. But at the start of season 7, he's following her like a cowed puppy. Made no sense. It was at that point when they abandoned the series, I think. Season 7 and 8 were truncated. Characters that would have died if they had gotten into dangerous situations in previous seasons were miraculously getting saved (e.g. Bronn pulling Jamie out of the way of Drogon's mouth after dodging dragon fire by 6 inches 10 minutes earlier when Drogon destroyed the scorpion...)
Anyone should know jamie was lying to her so she would let him go.he does it masterfully through the series.
Him saying that was stupid, but his returning to Cersei does make sense in terms of their story. Cersei is his ruination. For a true redemption arc, he would have to do something else that doesn't happen in this series (alluded to by Maggie the Frog).
24:14 "Hopefully a happy ending for them... at this point"
Me: " *giggles* " boy you have no idea whats comin' 😂😆🤣
I’m in the minority with most women I know, but I was not a fan of the Brienne and Jaime hook up. I had no doubt how it would end.
I agree. The scene in episode 2 where Jamie knights Brienne was a true consummation of their love. That pseudo-sex scene was pure fan service and completely unnecessary.
I completely agree. It was just weird.
@@NovaLena22, exactly. It probably has to do with the fact that I have quite a few platonic male friends, and people always wanna go there. I hate that attitude.
@@NovaLena22 Yes!!
John was treated as a bastard all his life, the only thing he ever wanted was to be called John Stark. Now that he learned the truth, that he is actually a legitimate child and the rightful king of the Seven Kingdoms he is asked to keep it a secret. I think Danny is obsessed with the throne and as much of an honorable man John actually is this is something noone should ask of him.The whole situation should of course have been handled differently but there would be no drama otherwise.
It is completely unfair for Dany to expect Jon to sacrifice his truth because she wants that damn throne. Her obsession mirrors Stannis's obsession that he was the chosen one. It's not about the realm, but the ego.
"She's reached sister level enough". STOP IT! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I've enjoyed your commentary and Zay's journey throughout GoT. Cam's a great facilitator.
Has really annoyed me how Cam has no confidence in Zay's ability to understand things, make connections, notice callbacks etc on his own. He feels the need to point everything out and launch into explanations that were never asked for, and in doing so talks over the whole next scene.
It has been fun watching Zay go on his ride through GoT. I love your Q and As and theories. 2 more Episodes!
I dont why im torturing myself seeing these last 3 episodes, thr wounds amd saltiness has been re-opened , LOL 🤣 but im here for the reaction anyways 😆😂🤟
please watch The Last of Us! It's awesome even if you guys didn't play the game. It will prolly be TV Series of the Year!
Just FYI they tool A LOT of crap over Jon not showing Ghost some love. And also, I liked Danny just fine but she didnt have a strategic bone in her body when it came to her dragons...js.
I also wish the Hound would have lived personally. Sigh...but at least Sir Robert Strong, aka the mountain, is dead.
Yea because "she forgot"
@@badgaltinginnit which falls in line with her character
@@baronhomer1 definitely does not, but okkie!
this was such a cheap way to kill off a dragon made no since i wouldnt have been that upset if he died in the long night battle
Dany says she made every chance to avoid bloodshed.how about maybe not attack the realm?
She's been nuts the whole time, always obsessed with the throne and threatening to destroy anyone in her way. She's only been held back by her friends and advisors. At the end of Season 8 we see what happens as she loses those advisors (Jorah, Missandei) or feels she can't trust them (Tyrion, Jon, Varis) and is left to her own ideas. There's plenty wrong with these final episodes, but I've never agreed with people mad about Dany's arc, it makes perfect sense to me.
I cry too when the 🐉 die😢
Missandei's death was one of the roughest, for me, of the entire series. Didnt think they would do her like that, but was a great shocking moment tbh.
One of the only truly pure, decent people throughout the series. (Missandei, Shireen & Podrick are the only ones I can think of)
I will just never forgive them for sabotaging the Gendry + Arya ship so Ned Jr. and Robert Jr. can live on
Hero of Winterfell? I think that is not nearly enough credit. Hero of Westeros or Hero of the Realms of men. Winterfell is where it was fought, but Winterfell is not all she saved.
Except this is the one plot turn that we know beyond any doubt will not be a part of ASOIAF because B & W bragged how they took the defeat of the Dead away from Jon in order to "subvert expectations" and "girl power". It is nonsensical and the worst story decision of the entire series because it completely screws up so many in universe elements.
I don’t blame Dany what happened after to be honest. Would have destroyed the whole city and everyone in it.
Jamie does NOT love Cersei 🤮
Dany state of mind has been tilted to crazy for a long time
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!@!!!!!!!! I almost thought you guys had forgotten!! oh thank goodness, now everyone sit down & shut up!! LOL
31:56 Best last word to ever exist in GOT history.
I'm going to be honest; I have never really liked Dany. This episode didn't help with it.
are you one of jon snow fanboys
@@aymenyou2592 not really but I like him much more
@@aymenyou2592 didnt like either myself.more a lannister fan
She's even less likeable in the books. And book Jon is much more politically astute.
@@janeathome6643 I agree she is much more easily identifiable as evil in the books but it's not hard in the show either
so close to the finale!!
27:30 - It's like charging someone who just shot your mom, and you have a DRAGON AND YOU FORGET YOU CAN BURN THEM AND ALL THEIR SHIPS RIGHT NOW.
At 26:45 you talk about charging at someone who's shooting at you. Well I did exactly that back in the early 80s.
the scorpion bolts were upgraded to open up and spin when they hit the target, so they're alot more deadlier now than the previous bolts
If Jon went up to Ghost, he would have tried to follow Jon. Remember Arya has to throw rocks at Nymeria to make her run away. The Starks are Wargs..All of them.
I know I’m in the minority, but I had already had enough of Danaerys’ thirst and jealousy, and was cheering Sansa on when she told Tyrion.
I think it's a pretty substantial minority.
@@janeathome6643 I’m fine with that
Agreed, Dany's been nuts the whole show, she just always had advisors to hold her back. In Season 8 we see the predictable result of her losing all those advisors or losing trust in them.
So one has to rapped torture to be that ? Sansa's worst character that destroyed by her own stupid decision..