WOW. Thanks so much for explaining this so easily. I had to replace a bad Magnetic Ballast with a new Electronic one that I purchased & install new LED tubes. Because of the different number of wires & colours I watched MANY videos, but only had the confidence to do the job after your explanation. Worked out perfectly!!!
I watched your video just now and finally found one that actually shows you the wiring. Many thanks for your video. I will subscribe and like. Take care and stay safe. From: Petawawa, Ontario, Canada.
Getting ready to return the ballast I just bought but thought, "Hey, let me make sure this can't be wired somehow. It was made for two T8 lamps so maybe I'm just missing something." Watched this video and 2 minutes later I had my lights back. Thanks for the simple and straightforward video!
You have no idea how you fucking save me. I am at hospital right now im not an electrician i dont want to be embarrassed but fuck!! Thank you! I change almost 50 lights today.
The difference is that the electronic ballast is instant start and the magnetic one is rapid start. A rapid or programmed start electronic ballast would have the same wiring as the magnetic ballast.
Question, why even have a fluorescent ballast using LED lights when you can direct wire load on one end and neutral on the other? _Edit .. depending on your LED of course. Some get the power from one end. Actually, quite confusing._
That is a good question and I don't have an answer .. after I had installed these I came across a direct connect LED bulb too .. haven't looked into it any further though .. it may bring the prize down for the conversion however as the ballasts aren't cheap either .. Let me know if you find anything! :)
The real question is why run LEDs on flourescent ballasts in the first place. The industry only came out with direct LED retrofits for flourescent tubes because they know people who don't know much about LEDs will just buy them either way. However the ballast still sends the same high voltage blasts and the LED tubes just have to disperse the energy and the current limitations are intended for sustaining a flourescent arc and not for LEDs
Couldn't agree more .. when I researched my options I was somehow hyperfocused on this method and somehow missed that there were direct connection LED options .. I wouldn't do it this way again .. not the least because I had to buy the ballast and the LED bulbs .. very inefficient in hindsight ..
@@matsworld9386 LEDs have their own type of ballasts called drivers that are specifically catered towards their operation style which is much different from flourescent lights
I know a magnetic ballast is outdated, but damn, I have magnetic ballast that are 25 years old and I have yet to replace a single one, yet the electronic ballast have to replace every freaking year.
yeah right on .. unfortunately I don't think you can get an LED bulb that runs on the magnetic ballasts (please correct me if I'm wrong and you know of a product!)
Mats World I have LED tubes in all my magnetic ballast fixtures with No issues. Phillips and GE make great LED tubes that are compatible with magnetic ballast. If a ballast goes out then I can direct wire if needed using the existing LED tubes.
I really must've missed something while doing my research on the LED tubes .. i was convinced I had to upgrade the ballast to electronic before being able to use the tubes ... I'll have to look into this again .. thanks for the info!
Mats World The best way is to completely remove or bypass the ballast period, but plug & play hybrid LED tubes are common now in the hardware stores and even at Wal-Mart.
the electronic ballasts suck and LED lights suck. i still use f40t12 fixtures that are pre-heat with the starters and some of the ones i have are from the early 50s and still work no issue. but the new electronic ballast struggles to last 5 years and the tubes dont last as long either, and LED lights are just harsh and boring and start to flicker.
@@matsworld9386 not venting, i am just saying that if you have an old magnetic ballast fixture and it is still working that it will probably continue to do so for a good while. the energy savings are real but not too much for the electronic compared to the magnetic and the magnetic ballasts last forever and make the bulbs last longer as well. so unless the original ballast has failed it is better to keep the original ballast in place and use the t12 tubes, especially if you have really vintage lights like i do.
@@WalterKnox fair enough .. I'm not having any trouble with my LED bulbs so far but time will tell .. I do like the instant on feature they have ... I'm not sure whether I had mentioned this in my videos but my way of doing it was definitely the roundabout way and I wouldn't do it this way agian .. I upgraded the ballast to electronic and then changed the bulbs .. so, double cost there . rather than just doing the LED bulbs that have no need for a ballast .. anywho, live and learn .. for now they work great and as mentioned, the instant on and off works great with the occupancy switch I have installed .. lights go on when I enter and turn off 5 mins after I leave .. works great ;)
@@matsworld9386 that is a good feature and i definitely see the advantage that LED lights have over the fluorescent lights. the big one is that most fluorescent lights will not start below 50 degrees which is an issue in places that are not heated. they also do take more power... I personally do not like LED lights and will keep my old magnetic ballast but i have no issue with people updating. i just like to see both sides of things out there when making a decision.
Not sure how to respond to that ... I'm under the impression that magnetic ballasts are older technology and have been largely replaced with electronic ones ... at any rate, the LED bulbs I purchased from Homedepot require an electronic ballast and will not work with a magnetic one ... There are direct install LED bulbs now that don't require any type of ballasts but do require some hard wiring changes ... cheers and thanks for watching!
WOW. Thanks so much for explaining this so easily. I had to replace a bad Magnetic Ballast with a new Electronic one that I purchased & install new LED tubes.
Because of the different number of wires & colours I watched MANY videos, but only had the confidence to do the job after your explanation.
Worked out perfectly!!!
Thank You for this.
I just bought the replacement and was dumbfounded at the difference in wiring.
Nice clear accurate explanation.
Hey you're welcome ;) I'm glad it helps others too, I was dumbfounded at the beginning :)
I watched your video just now and finally found one that actually shows you the wiring. Many thanks for your video. I will subscribe and like. Take care and stay safe. From: Petawawa, Ontario, Canada.
hey, happy to hear it helps! :) this video seems to be what the internet needed, I'm glad it helps so many of you out :)
Getting ready to return the ballast I just bought but thought, "Hey, let me make sure this can't be wired somehow. It was made for two T8 lamps so maybe I'm just missing something." Watched this video and 2 minutes later I had my lights back. Thanks for the simple and straightforward video!
Just got a sub, thank you . I work in maintenance and know things here and there but this has help me tremendously
Thanks for your video, was going to give up installing the replacement ballast until I came across your video.
Bruh, very good video it was spot on. And Thanks for not rambling on about a bunch of unnecessary stuff. Thanks from Florida.
welcome!
Thanks...exactly answered my question in a nice and short and concise video...well done!
This is exactly what I needed. Thank you so much!!
Thanks for the video. Helped me confirm what I thought I needed to do with the wires.
You saved my life and time & frustration lol 🙏🏼
the video that keeps on giving :)
Bro, you came through for me 😮. Thanks man, you rock 🪨
glad it helped!
Thank you for keeping it short and simple!
You're welcome. Glad it helped ;)
You have no idea how you fucking save me. I am at hospital right now im not an electrician i dont want to be embarrassed but fuck!! Thank you! I change almost 50 lights today.
ha, you're welcome ma man, that's so good to hear :) be safe!
you're a life saver, thank you so much!
Thank you! Clearer than clear!
Glad I could help!
All the LED tubes will be working with all ballast types without of damage or broken of LED driver of inside an LED tube
The difference is that the electronic ballast is instant start and the magnetic one is rapid start. A rapid or programmed start electronic ballast would have the same wiring as the magnetic ballast.
Thank you for the input
Nice explanation.
Thanks James!
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What if there is one led bulb on same drive. How will be the wiring combination? Both blue are connected or one left open (wire nut).
Thanks
I'm sorry I don't know either ..
Question, why even have a fluorescent ballast using LED lights when you can direct wire load on one end and neutral on the other? _Edit .. depending on your LED of course. Some get the power from one end. Actually, quite confusing._
That is a good question and I don't have an answer .. after I had installed these I came across a direct connect LED bulb too .. haven't looked into it any further though .. it may bring the prize down for the conversion however as the ballasts aren't cheap either .. Let me know if you find anything! :)
Admittedly, the plug and play T8 LED tubes are about the only kind available at most hardware stores.
The real question is why run LEDs on flourescent ballasts in the first place. The industry only came out with direct LED retrofits for flourescent tubes because they know people who don't know much about LEDs will just buy them either way. However the ballast still sends the same high voltage blasts and the LED tubes just have to disperse the energy and the current limitations are intended for sustaining a flourescent arc and not for LEDs
Couldn't agree more .. when I researched my options I was somehow hyperfocused on this method and somehow missed that there were direct connection LED options .. I wouldn't do it this way again .. not the least because I had to buy the ballast and the LED bulbs .. very inefficient in hindsight ..
@@matsworld9386 LEDs have their own type of ballasts called drivers that are specifically catered towards their operation style which is much different from flourescent lights
I know a magnetic ballast is outdated, but damn, I have magnetic ballast that are 25 years old and I have yet to replace a single one, yet the electronic ballast have to replace every freaking year.
yeah right on .. unfortunately I don't think you can get an LED bulb that runs on the magnetic ballasts (please correct me if I'm wrong and you know of a product!)
Mats World I have LED tubes in all my magnetic ballast fixtures with No issues. Phillips and GE make great LED tubes that are compatible with magnetic ballast. If a ballast goes out then I can direct wire if needed using the existing LED tubes.
I really must've missed something while doing my research on the LED tubes .. i was convinced I had to upgrade the ballast to electronic before being able to use the tubes ... I'll have to look into this again .. thanks for the info!
Mats World The best way is to completely remove or bypass the ballast period, but plug & play hybrid LED tubes are common now in the hardware stores and even at Wal-Mart.
I like programmed start t8 not led.
the electronic ballasts suck and LED lights suck. i still use f40t12 fixtures that are pre-heat with the starters and some of the ones i have are from the early 50s and still work no issue. but the new electronic ballast struggles to last 5 years and the tubes dont last as long either, and LED lights are just harsh and boring and start to flicker.
ok then .. good venting Walter ;)
@@matsworld9386 not venting, i am just saying that if you have an old magnetic ballast fixture and it is still working that it will probably continue to do so for a good while. the energy savings are real but not too much for the electronic compared to the magnetic and the magnetic ballasts last forever and make the bulbs last longer as well. so unless the original ballast has failed it is better to keep the original ballast in place and use the t12 tubes, especially if you have really vintage lights like i do.
@@WalterKnox fair enough .. I'm not having any trouble with my LED bulbs so far but time will tell .. I do like the instant on feature they have ... I'm not sure whether I had mentioned this in my videos but my way of doing it was definitely the roundabout way and I wouldn't do it this way agian .. I upgraded the ballast to electronic and then changed the bulbs .. so, double cost there . rather than just doing the LED bulbs that have no need for a ballast .. anywho, live and learn .. for now they work great and as mentioned, the instant on and off works great with the occupancy switch I have installed .. lights go on when I enter and turn off 5 mins after I leave .. works great ;)
@@matsworld9386 that is a good feature and i definitely see the advantage that LED lights have over the fluorescent lights. the big one is that most fluorescent lights will not start below 50 degrees which is an issue in places that are not heated. they also do take more power... I personally do not like LED lights and will keep my old magnetic ballast but i have no issue with people updating. i just like to see both sides of things out there when making a decision.
The magnétic is a the best whats the eletrônic
Not sure how to respond to that ... I'm under the impression that magnetic ballasts are older technology and have been largely replaced with electronic ones ... at any rate, the LED bulbs I purchased from Homedepot require an electronic ballast and will not work with a magnetic one ...
There are direct install LED bulbs now that don't require any type of ballasts but do require some hard wiring changes ...
cheers and thanks for watching!
Im 65, and I just got instructions from a 20 something years kid. Who made it make sense. I'm so proud 🥲
meh, I'm 47 but who's counting :)
Do you have a video with two ballast?