If the "pacman" circle patterns are placed over the Paldea map they point out the exact locations of the four ruinous legendary shrines. It lines up too perfectly to be coincidence.
i agree. also, this might be wrong, but if you take the 4 ruins types starting with chien-po and going on this "pac man" thing of they eat the one infront... ice is strong against ground, ground against fire, fire against grass... but this is where it breaks... just a thought
I saw this image as well and it is kinda possible but you need 4 maps of pladea and if you look closely the creator of the image has moved around the lines and circles to make it look more accurate, even then they don't all line up perfectly. Not enough to notice it at a first glance but when you do it makes it pretty obvious that it likely has no meaning.
Area zero has been one of the most interesting locations pokemon has ever made in awhile. The amount of videos made on this area cause of how weird it is from a geological aspect and symbols and metal that is unknown to others screams for theories. I’m really looking forward to seeing answers to these questions in the dlc.
Its also one of the best locations in pokemon games imo, it looks really nice and the music is good too. The place also really resembles ‘made in abyss’ which I’d be surprised if that wasn’t part of the inspiration for the great crater of paldea
The triangle symbol isn't only reminiscent of a sextant, but also of a light cone (or null cone, basically 'zero cone'), a concept important to the theory of relativity and the concept of causality, and therefore, time travel as well.
I'm gonna have to disagree with you there, first of all, the triangles look nothing at all like a sextant, seems like the creator of that theory has never seen nor used a sextant in their life lol. Basically they went "ooh triangle, ooh another triangle" and assumed they were the same. And I'm not too sure about yours either since light cones don't overlap and also both cones are the same, not different like that.
I am actually playing in the area zero and i realized that when you arrive around the center of the zone when you can jump to go at its bottom, there is a layer of clouds. That reminded me of brine pools that you can find deep down in the sea when you have a big difference of salinity. Added to that there is the fact that it's exactly at this point that the landscape changes like a shift between two ecosystems. And the amount of cristalline pokemons (garganacl, glimmora) found at the bottom of the zone plus the terracristals are making me think that it might be inspired from the brine pools existing at the bottom of the sea. And when you search brine pools on the net it says that animals called loricifera live in this pools, animals that looks like glimmora and has an exosqueleton with plates made of silicate. Another coincidence is that loriciferas are found in spaces between marine gravels to which they attach themselves. And glimmora are found attached to walls in area zero.
To me, the last symbol looks like the path you follow from the 3rd lab to the bottom. That underground path does spiral quite a bit before it ends at the entry to the main lab where Sado/Turo are.
Doesnt the last symbol resemble an S and a T in a very stylish way? It might be a signature made by either Sada or Turo to sign their work. Having in mind that they are the "Final bosses" of the main story and also knowing their fate in the Area Zero It might be a reference to them.
I saw that too, because I know that the professor writes in the journals in area zero about "that woman/man walked out" so maybe it was a team effort in the beginning and that's their family insignia or something, to give credit to both sada and turo?
Yes, I was just about to post this, but I figured someone else must have noticed too. It's totally an "S" on its side layered with a "T" the only conflict with this theory is they're names aren't Sada and Turo in outside of English (except Turo on Korean) I do believe that Turo does exist in Scarlet, and Sada in Violet, and I hope.to see them in the DLC to either explain or cause all the weird inconsistencies with Heath's account.
9:10 I believe this symbol showing arrows spining in circle could represent the concept of time loop. This could explain why some of the paradoxe pokémon have been seen by Heath long ago before our journey. Some of the paradoxe pokémon may have been trapped into a time loop or the whole Paldea region is trapped inside a time loop.
I like this. I also think the plate with the overlapping triangles represents Pokémon legends arcus. The portal that brings the mc in legends is above a mountain and it creates the time riffs that let you catch out of time pokemon.
So paradox. How gaggy would it be if the professor at the end of our journey leaving really goes to the time where heath is in area 0 and that’s what causes cyclizar to have forms? Heath mentions he woke up to someone giving him notes etc. this would totally create a paradox of time. Also where have we seen this? PLA with igno & arceus
The map on the plate has most of the major cities on it, it seems. Also the “pac-man” pattern is familiar. I recall seeing something like it in a movie with time travel as a plot point. Apparently the symbols were like a time travel device/map. Considering that we find one particular paradox species in abundance near it, it could be how the paradox Pokemon got to area zero before the Time Machine was built. Having two sources for paradox Pokémon just caused the population to go into overdrive and kicked off the plot of the game.
They all seem to me to be creative depictions of different cultural understandings of time. The triangles: This one to me looks like an hourglass, a mechanism that depicts the passing of time in a linear and measurable way. One event happens and then another that it might have caused. The pacman: This one I'm least sure about, but without any overt patterns, the markings are all over this, which reminds me of the idea that everything all happens at once--time is what allows us to perceive one event then another that really are co-occuring The hexagons: These to me look like concentric circles or rings of some kind that are "flattened" to make edges, aka, a flat circle. This view of time suggests that everything has occurred before and will again in some kind of pattern. The squiggly: This one is very reminiscent of time as a cone, a cross between linear time and flat circle. One thing happens and then another, in thematic cycles that repeat throughout history, with changes over many repetitions.
I think ive figured out the e4 interview and possibly the real villain for the dlc. So geeta is implied to be some sort of traveler. She'd be aware of other paldeas. The interview has the name of the other games school and the other questions match what you think is at various locations with whats actually there. This tells me that geeta is trying to check if you came from another world. Im thinking another geeta could try to invade and replace the geeta we have now.
Honestly, I don't think its a time machine. The contents of the scarlet book makes it seem like that the terrestrial Pokémon brings to life imagination. Because Sada was interested in the past and the Pokémon mentioned in the book, it created what she imagined. Its a machine that brings what you imagine into reality.
Another look at the triangle symbol is that it represents the Area Zero itself, first because it appears together with the Paldea shape in the plate, second because the Area Zero itself looks like a cone/triangle if seen from the side, and the other inverted triangle could mean some type of dimension that has the same shape but connect with the Pokémon universe (remembering that time itself is a dimension).
Area zero in no way looks like a cone/triangle if seen from the side lmfao. Also you completely forgot about the two 0s. Goes to show that you could say literally anything on the internet and people will agree with you.
Totally random, but the "squiggles" one to me looks like an image of the crater its self. The squiggle part is representation of how you travel up and down the crater. And it has the upside down L on the top right. This looks like a its representing a barrier. Showing the paradox pokemon are coming out of the barrier and in paldea. Hence the titan pokemon. May also explain why its found outside of the crater in the lighthouse?
One thing I've been wondering. At the bottom of area zero by the zero labs, we see other buildings but can't go in. What are those buildings for and what's inside them? :)
The triangles are a rep of "as above so below". I believe Turo and sada are similar to the Rosalind twins from bioshock. I believe the reason why the school names are different and that one has future pokemon and the other ancient is that the two games rep two different timelines and Turo and sada have left those timelines and met eachother somewhere in time / space and the dlc will explore this.
Don’t think we’ll get explanations for what exactly these symbols will mean, but I think wherever you can find these symbols (not as some scribbling in a book or a lab), their locations, or at least a couple of them will be important in the dlc. I do think something important will definitely appear in that cave with the pac-man-like designs. And perhaps you’ll have to visit that one plate throughout the questline (tho I think nothing will happen with this object). There’s also a chance we won’t see anything related to these in any dlc, and the dlc will simply be something else entirely. And perhaps that ‘third legendary’ will just be a mythic in a distribution event at the time of a movie. I also think a potential dlc will include travelling back in time (not forwards cus that’ll just leave u with an even more degraded area zero), in which we will then see what used to be there, we will see what used to be in that waterfall cave, perhaps where that plate came from etc. That would be interesting, being able to explore an old paldea
If this is the case, *and* if the DLC does indeed turn out to be southern Kalos, they could maybe do something with the Chamber of Emptiness? That still seems really important to me, having its own location name and map just to hold one of the Arceus plates? Nah.
Great thoughts here! While I'm completely sold on at least the first symbol being a representation of the time machine, that just adds extra high octane fuel to the "how the hell did Heath know about things that wouldn't exist until years later?" fire of speculation that's been running rampant in my mind since I finished Aero Zero. I say that because that symbol is right there on the cover of the Scarlet/Violet book in-game as well. Thanks for that, lol.
One issue I see is that the shape that you claim to be the hexagon shape in the book is literally not the same as the one in the title. The one on the title could ofc just be an artistic representation of it but the one in the book is very different to the one on the title. The only similarity is hexagons. The one on the title looks more like a pokeball with things going to the side of a solid circle, and only 2 rings, where as the one in the book has way more rings, a hollow centre hexagon, and doesn't look like a pokeball at all. Ofc as I said it could just be an artistic thing but you'd think they would be a lil more consistent no? I think the final conclusion of it being the time machine itself is true, but I don't think it has anything to do with the book. Also imo the triangle thing doesn't look the slightest bit like a sextant (the navigatory device), once again, the only similarity is a very basic shape, a triangle. It is possible that it's a real connection but I just think fans are finding super basic shapes and then comparing them to other things with that shape end being like "aha, i've got it" And the only time it looks even mildly like a sextant is in the logo where it's rounded, it's not rounded in game though, and also the sextant never ever has two triangles. The two 0s could potentially be seen as the lenses but they aren't where they're meant to be and it's also a damn huge stretch. It's like seeing two rectangles and a circle next to each other and then deciding it's a phone. No 1, two rectangles, phone is one, No 2, phones aren't just rectangles. I think this confusion comes from people never having seen a sextant before and so when someone suggested it they had no proof against it so it must be true ig. So I personally think you're completely wrong about the triangle one. It could be time travel idk but the way you got to that conclusion makes 0 sense. It's pretty clear that (no offense) the person who constructed the theory for that one has never seen or used a sextant before, because they have no link to time travel and a sextant wouldn't make any sense to put on there considering unless someone has a plan or knows where to go it's useless, wow cool you know where you are now, doesn't matter cause there's literally no where to go because you went back before humans even existed. By navigatory device it doesn't mean it tells you where to go it just tells you where you are. Like I'm sorry but a lot of this video was a whole lot of massive stretching, too much to be true. Like you said that the 3rd symbol "must be related to time travel" because the other two are even though at no point in the game is it specifically related to time travel. And you said the last one represented time travel because it is on the professors whiteboard therefore the professors work which is about the flow of time which somehow means time travel, oh and I forgot to mention, if you look at it, that isn't even the same symbol. I think they all are connected to time travel since it's already in the game but I just think the arguments you've given for them are kinda right out your ass. If the symbols which look nothing like what they are in game are actually meant to be the same, I think gamefreak has done a big oopsie making them like that.
Doodles does not believe it's time travel but a multiverse, the triangles are the mountains of each universe and the machine at the bottom of the mountains are a gateways into the universe of known professor.
I wish Pokémon would go harder with the lore. Or at least provide some games with deeper lore for those that like that kind of stuff. They haven’t even spitballed how pokeballs, trade evolutions etc work. They could make up some total nonsense and I’d be happy. Although it’s fun that it’s so vague. Gives us fans something to talk about
There could be a connection to the war waged 3,000 years ago in the Pokemon World in the SCARLET and VIOLET DLC because we're informed about the war from 3,000 years ago but never told the full story
Well, I hope we do get some kind of answers. If not, it could well become a plot hole. I would hope so. Once you beat the game, Arven does point out that how did the paradox Pokémon get mentioned in the scarlet and violet books, if the professors Time Machine was built after the books were written? So, is there some other time travel shenanigans going on? Did the paradox Pokémon get lost in transit from their time to the present, allowing for them to have been in area zero when heath explored it? Is it the work of this mysterious legendary Pokémon? It would be ridiculous if we don’t get an answer to at least that particular mon… surely, they wouldn’t tease a Pokémon like that and it never eventuate, right? Hmmm. Who knows? Maybe the DLC won’t be a new location, but new time zones. Maybe you could actually meet heath and join his expedition? Or maybe they’ll just drop it altogether and do something unrelated leaving it all a mystery. I hope that last one doesn’t happen.
Honestly im still not convinced about the time travel. I still think its a cover for the paradoxes being imagined into existence by the power of the 3rd legendary effecting people
It would be really cool if they brought back the ultra wormhole mechanic, or at least reworked it to fit a time travel theme. Pokemon has really been getting into things like that, like what we saw with the concept of PLA itself and the space time distortions. I'd love to travel back through time on my Miraidon the way we traveled through space on Solgaleo/Lunala in USUM.
Almost. I just checked the map and the dots are the locations of every town and city in Paldea. I assume that the plate came from the future since there is no known way in the present to somehow engrave it. But why would someone send this to the "past" (our present) when we already know those locations? Unless there is something we didn't discover yet 🤔
@@beegbraintako6140 probably something underground, probably some parts to build the time machine. Sent from the future to the past to make sure the time machine gets built.. Sent by Turo to Sada to make sure they'll meet and to make sure Arven exists
Bottom Left- Hexagons surrounding a Pokeball. Hexagons are very closely tied to Tera crystals, so we can assume this glyph is just representative of terastallization. Top Left- A Light Cone and a sextant at the same time. A Sextant to tie into the themes of exploration, and a Light Cone to tie into time travel. Bottom Right - A sigil doubling as an S and a T. The signature both Sada and Turo use for their work. Could also be a coordinate grid with a spiral on it.
Here's an idea. The pokemon are classified as paradox pokemon. As in they should not there. But people are focusing and forgetting that space is a factor as well. They may vary well be from a parallel world. They may not from ARE time line
The phantom memory makes me think of the hexagon patterns of the c-gear and his mention of “as if in a dream” also ties into the dream world in the same game. Black and white 2
Here's my take, the spiral symbol is ment to represent the galaxy the World of Pokemon takes place, the measuring device symbol is used to calculate the earth's position as you can't send something through space-time and expect it to be at the exact same location due to the planets rotation around the Sun and the rotation of the galaxy . The hexagon is the time machine, and the intercepting rings/circles are ment to represent the location of parallel universes and to calculate how and where they have a branching/point of origin in which people and pokemon can pass through them freely. Did I miss anything?
the very first thing I thought when looking at the symbols is, I think one of those is the ruin doors and one is the disk pokémon hexagon. the second thought I had was, this is giving me weird flashbacks to how people tried to interpret the background symbols in "Don't Hug Me I'm Scared" that the show suddenly decided to half-explain on its finale. does this mean pokémon's npcs are actually trying to escape the cycle of formulaic games edit: no, it doesn't match the doors, they have more of a circuit pattern. though you could almost argue it's four stakes
I'm personally a time travel skeptic, I believe the time machine is just connected to other dimensions in space rather than time, but the symbols still hold up relatively speaking. Hexagon: The "time machine" - the wormhole to other dimensions. Turo/Sada mentions how the tera crystals enhance Pokemon's powers and optimise machinery, so I propose the tera crystals mutated regular Pokemon from other dimensions (as we know, all Pokemon games are in their own timelines) into Paradox Pokemon. Triangles: A map of the stars? Perhaps it's a map from alien Pokemon to help them find their way home - the Terastal legendary might be from space, considering if it crashed and created the Paldean crater. Pac-Man: Could be crop circles from the alien Pokemon, or a map of the Ruinous Shrines Turo/Sada's Lab Symbol: It reminds me of an XY plane (the 2 arrows) and the curvy line overall represent the classical depiction of the "wormhole", which could be for time travel but also inter-dimensional travel.
Guys, the lower right symbol in the game logo what does it show: something coming from a top right point. Where's the only point we can't go to or navigate/climb towards in Paldea? The landmass at the top right of the region Something's coming in the DLC, I just know it!
arvens parents are not dead imo. The ai I says they die but maybe the simply went to their respective paradox time . Leaving directions to their past future versions on how how to create the ai versions . I’m suspecting we will have a paradox dimension and we end up in with some kinda new legendary capture mechanic (like the shsw raids, wormholes) and the storyline to bring the prof back
The triangles represent time or a light cone. the overlapping area represents area zero where multiple presents exist at the same place and time through the crystal growths, which are time crystals, which are one of the states of matter. This is what makes time travel possible in this area.
It's funny because there are so many unsolved mysteries in the Pokémon franchise that I don't even bother paying attention to any of these things anymore when I'm playing
I think the 4 symbols link to the box legendaries, I feel there’s more to them than we know at the moment. My guess is because their symbol is at the top while the other four are in the corners. We can use our ride mon for battle at the end, and we also get to catch another one. I think it’s one more form that they’ll get based on their Pokédex descriptions: Koraidon (Scarlet): This seems to be the Winged King mentioned in an old expedition journal. It was said to have split the land with its bare fists. Miraidon (Violet): This seems to be the Iron Serpent mentioned in an old book. The Iron Serpent is said to have turned the land to ash with its lightning. Based on the wording, these Pokémon sounds like they had a much more menacing form than we know of. Couple that with the 3rd legendary and the 4 logos, we should unlock more of the mystery behind them as we get DLC is my guess
First thought on the third would be some sort of gate. It's kinda set up like a star piece in the middle. Flying Omelette makes a good point, which would make Area Zero the central point, the center of the Crater. Terastalization exists no where else. As for the last symbol. In the video of Sada, you can see a graph that looks very odd... The symbol itself likely representing an axis. And XYZ axis specifically. Which is another math reference, and given she's mapping ripples in time... The connections between the events are fairly obvious, which makes the legendary Tera pokemon something that smashed through time. It doesn't exist in reality, only able to reach out via it's mind. And the time machine uses it's presence to actually work, like mapping a star chart to find your way across time. If I had the game, I'd e very interested in those dots on the plate/map. What do they correlate to?
That last one with the squiggle reminded me of either quadrants on a X-Y graph, this being the 3rd quadrants based on placement, with the fibonacci sequence swirl or clock hands and similar to Doctor Who, wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff represented by the swirl like in the intro for that show.
Hexagon is a hexagonal tunnel, as seen on the drawing. It represents trading. Two opposing triangles and two ovals is a trainer battle. Ovals are pokemon you and your opponent use. Pennyfarting thing represents exploration. It's a track of your movement. The 4 packmen is union circle. Do I even have to explane this one?
the 'squiggly" symbol looks a lot like a spiral. it makes me think that its the path that leads down through area zero, bc that was sort of a spiral shape too
The triangle symbol: doesn't scream sexton to me but maybe, at the very least it's an egg timer, or perhaps a visual representation of how the time travelling energy looks when active The PAC man's: makes me wonder about Lockstins alchemy angle on things but also reminiscent of the sort of "bindings" Arceus, Palkia & dialga (alt forms) have Hexagons: at least it's some sort of graph at most it helps depict the legendary powering the machine Swirl: it almost looks like an upside down graph depicting the axis of time & space one might call it timey whimey
I think that there is no actual time travel. The 3rd Legendary is from a crystal realm of dreams and imagination. The ancients wiped themselves out trying to reach it, leaving only the Orichalcum plate in Area Zero, the Professor followed in their footsteps. All of the Paradox Pokemon are just manifested ideas that the Professor got from the occult magazines. Heath's partner Pokemon was a Cyclizar, and he probably dreamed of seeing a different and more powerful version of it, creating Koraidon/Miraidon. A lot of stuff points in the direction of dreams: the emphasis of finding your own treasure, the pages about imagined Pokemon in the S/V Book and the occult magazines, and the problems with the timeline.
wdym, time travel is literally confirmed to be in the game and miraidon and koraidon +paradox pokemon are also confirmed to be old pokemon. We literally see the time machine in action in the game. And there also is no proof that the plate is made of orichalcum which we also have no genuine proof that orichalcum is those crystals/even exists as a physical thing in the games. Apart from koraidons ability there is no mention of orichalcum. The crystals have no connection to orichalcum aside from a theory made by someone. In the game there is NO proof of any of what you just said. This is why theory vids are so weird. People get so wrapped up in them that they forget what's a theory and what's actually in the game that they are talking about.
@@IOwnKazakhstan no none of that is confirmed, you as the player ASSUME that's what it is because that's what the characters ALSO assume. The problem is if you look at dex entries for paradox from the OPPOSITE game they don't make sense. The professor may also believe they made a working time machine but the problem is that some paradox pokemon already exist prior to the construction as indicated by the scarlet/violet book. That would be impossible is the machine wasn't created yet and Arden even makes a comment about it. We also know that the paradox virizion and suicune will appear in dlc but the descriptions in the books literally say that they come from the artist imagination. Those pokemon don't exist outside of someone's imagination so how could they possibly appear. Almost all the "future" paradox entries infer something similar. It all seems like a giant mislead where we as the player THINK it's time travel because it's what we're told and makes sense on the surface level but once you dig it all doesn't add up.
@@IOwnKazakhstan If you look at the descriptions of Paradox pokemon, a lot of them mention dubious magazines. From Iron Thorns' description: "It has some similarities to a Pokémon introduced in a dubious magazine as a Tyranitar from one billion years into the future." Why mention the dubious magazine at all and not just say its a Tyranitar from the future? How did Heath see Paradox Pokemon 2000 years in the past if the Professor in the present is the one that built the "time machine" that brought them to Paldea? How did the Professor bring Koraidon/Miraidon out of Area Zero before they built the "time machine"? There are too many problems with the time travel idea and too many hints in-game that something weird is going on. I guess we'll see when the DLC drops.
The pacmam like symbols look similar to the symbols in the Shinjoh Ruins, in my opinion, because one of the legendary pokémon has to do with time itself and the other is space. So it is possible that area could be a rip in the space time continuum from a fight when someone tried to summon them. Which, in turn, allows for time travel in that area itself.
A mystery for me is after you catch the violant Koridon or Miridon you hear a roar followed by something saying Agius?! I bet thats the Tyrastilized origin pokemon.
I just noticed how the time machine ''entrance'' looks like a modernized ultra wormhole, like they wanted to make it look like that maybe in an early concept. Maybe theres a relation?
Triangle Symbol - The lost city of Atlantis. The top triangle is what rose with the bottom being the crater. The map in the middle represents the same, and it holds technology lost to mankind. The metal used is based on Orichelchum, a metal found in Atlantis. (You can search more about this theory because I dont want to write an essay here) Hexagon Symbol - The "Time" machine itself. The creation that allows to convert will power into living things. Squiggly Symbol - Unknown. Possibly something within the DLC we have yet to see, that the researchers Turo or Sada may have been studying at the time. A subtle hint we have yet to uncover. The Alien / Pacman symbols - Markins that have existed before the expeditions and heith (or however you spell it) book was written. Could be symbols of lost science, something related to older buildings that used to stand there, or marks representing something of Atlantis. Cant theorize much on these sadly. And the city of Atlantis did not sink in this game, it started to fly. That is what the triangle symbols represent. This is the theory I have found to be the most believable! And the most agreed on
My theory: - hourglass image = time travel, past paradox and future paradox Pokémon overlap into the present day due to Sada & Turo’s research (represented by the two smaller circles on the right) - “Pac-Man” image = footprints of Heath’s time machine from 200 years ago - disc image = terra crystals, derived from the third legendary, and is the source of terrastal power for Pokémon in Paldea - “loop” image = Herba Mystica, which the professors were studying at home since the plant was found throughout the region outside of area zero, and gives enhanced power to local Pokémon (native to paldea as well as Pokémon which managed to escape area zero like great dusk/iron treads)
Area Zero, before I even got there, but especially once I got there, reminded me of the Cerulean Cave from gen 1.....magical, dangerous, high level versions of most of the game's final evolutions, legendary at the bottom.....love it.
A lot of this video assumes that time travel did actually happen. But there's evidence to suggest that maybe there was never any time travel involved and the so called time machine isn't one at all but the hexagon disk pokemon itself that creates what you desire or expect to see.
God pokemon is so cool. They made pokeballs in basically the 1800s and now they have a literal time machine in the pokemon version of 2022. If only the real world was as advanced.
I think the triangle symbol is the Lakota Symbol. The triangle at the top represents the Sun & Stars while the triangle at the bottom represents the Earth. Tera Crystals do seem to have a lot of connections with the "Light". They also seen too be growing towards the sun like flowers. Anyway, the Lakota symbol represents the connection between the Earth and the Sun/Stars. The center represents the connection and the phenomenon caused with this connection. The dots are not present for the Lakota symbol, but considering they're places as if they come from this connection, I do believe that this plate is telling us that when Tera Crystals and light meet up, strange stuff starts to appear. As a sidenote: The 4 legendary Pokemon have a Chinese connection (obviously) to the five heavenly beasts in it's mythology. The fifth one that's missing would be the Snake representing Metal. Together they form the cycle of creation AND the cycle of destruction, both themes that are present within the lore of the game. (Which ironically would fit extremely well with Xerneas and Yveltal as well)
Hoopsandhiphop You're missing something about Legendary treasure coins based off Meowth forehead Coins undiscovered by Paldean Empire - Roman Empire BCE century and over 4000 Years ago - 5000 Year's ago Egypt mythology language Coins made by Government Palace owner of Meowth As well
you are overthinking it. the answer is very simple: top left corner: tablets of ruin bottom left corner: vesel of ruin top right corner:beads of ruin bottom right ruin:swords of ruin.
We need a third installment of the game (I.e Emerald, platinum, or even a black or white 2) in order to piece together the timeline events to what we already know. For instance: In both installments in scarlet & violet, both professor Turo & sada in their games are both dead. My question is this, are they both “truly” dead? Having a sequel or future DLC to elaborate on this would be fascinating to see what mystery is behind all of this
@hoopsandhiphop I'd love to see a video on both the watchtowers and ruins and get your take on it. I find them pretty mysterious as being one of the few (if not only) man made structures in the region aside from the towns and cities
The squiggle symbol appears to me to symbolize traveling down into the depths of the crater. Imagine a top-down view and the fact you have to travel down the crater by walking its edges in a circular pattern and you'll get it.
The triangles are the timelines coming together and the two circles beside it are Turo and sada! Maybe they made the tablet together in the past because they are stuck 'outside of time' and we're only able to put the tablet in the past to assist themselves in starting the process of making the time machines with would make a paradox. This would explain why the pokemon are called paradox pokemon. (I posted other comments that explain further)
All this time traveling stuff in this game has piqued the archeologist or paleontologist in me (I know the difference but not sure which is applied). Im more fascinated with Area Zero than anything. I find Professor Sada's tragedy all the more disheartening like she joins the long list of those who perished throughout Paldea's history when it comes to Area Zero. Gamefreak made a gold mine when they explored this aspect of Pokemon. Wondering many questions about the Far Distanced Future or the Prehistoric Past. History has always fascinated me irl and this hits that part of me right on the head. Its like the mystery of Atlantis or the Bermuda Triangle and other unsolved historical mysteries of our own world. I guess this aspect of me is what attracts me to love Ghost type pokemon too. Hisuian Typhlosion and Gengar being my top favorite Ghost type pokemon. I imagine Scarlet and Violet will set the stage for future DLCs or games that wonder into this area of fantasy or mystery in the Pokemon World. We have yet to have a Pokemon game that is set in the ancient past like Ancient Egypt or Rome like setting or even in medieval Europe like setting (Legends Arceus doesnt count as its only set in the 1700s to 1800s and thats more closer to modern times).
I don't think the symbols have to do with DLC at all, persay, but rather what the game has in it. Such as the pacmans are the 4 shrines, the squiggly symbol is the initials of Sada and Toro, the triangles (hour glass) symbol is the literal symbol of time or time travel, and the hexagon is the terastalization itself since it's on the Tera ball and what not.
I am really curious as to what the dot marks on the map of Paldea on the metal plaque of unknown origin. They don't exactly line up with where gym leaders are located but is SORT of close?
There ARE satellite-esque dishes, located at the topmost cliffs of zero. Spookily, there's 6 of them total. Spookier, they are spread out in a ring, and they are facing each other... spookiest, if connected by lines, form a hexagon
the symbol with 4 circles could connect to the 4 Dark Type Legendaries sealed away. ...or the imagined paradox pokemon based on the 4 Swords Of Justice, but that is Violet exclusive, so...
@@brianlance8263 Keldeo's design may not be included in the design of the imagined paradox pokemon, but Keldeo is 1 of the 4 Swords Of Justice just as much as Enamorus is 1 of the Fources of Nature. Regardless, I do believe the 4 circle design is the 4 Treasures Of Ruin.
Some of the symbols remind me of alchemy symbols I once saw. Also the last symbol looks kinda looks like attack coordination, like where a weapon would be fired and calculating trajectory.
I think the squiggle is the book itself - the right angle being a corner of the book and the squiggle representing the writings and equations in the book
Here is a theory, because Ai Turo and Ai Sada time travel in the ending, a time travel Paradox is occurring. So the futuristic metal late was left by AI Turo and the cave floor engraving left by AI Sada.
The last symbol discussed reminds me of a fibonacci sequence. That combined with the right angle depicted may offer a better explanation of the symbol as a whole. I havnt looked into it much but it may be a possibility
5:25 to be exact, in japanese they said that heat and his squad tried to scrape the plate but they failed, meaning that the plate isn't indestructible, but they didn't had the tools to do it, also he doesn't mention the paldea's map on the plate, but if it was there before the exploration, andanyone could survive the first levels of area 0 before(we don't know what happened to the exploration-suicide missions that occured before heat's one, but if he didn't have the equipment to do it, why should someone that ipotetically arrived there 1200 years before him) also if you watch the map, you can notice that the shape of paldea's map(crater excluded) isnt' made with in the same way that was made the rest of the plate. the triangles on the plate could also mean that there is a place where 2 plains of reality cross, the upper triangle is the crater, the lower is were the third legendary lies and the intersection could easily mean that there you can enter the realm of the third legendary/see him. we also know that area zero data name is "atlantis" and this isn't a random name(random names are aaaaaaaaa and bbbbbbb, for whose don't know, these are iron valiant and roaring moon 's names in the game files) and there are some references to that,: 1) the legendaries abilities are inspired by atlantis in a way or another, for example orichalchum pulse is a reference to atlantis most famous metal, a metal so important for them that they used it in the poseidon temple building and miraidon's one, hadron engine, comes from the adrons collider(lhc) where one of the detectors is called Atlas, and who is atlas? the first king of atlantis(it's also a titan, but i don't think he is related to atlantis in any way), and so is possible that one time there was an ancient civilization that was destroyed and now their ruins are only the pacman thing on the ground and the plate. 6:50 unfortunatly the time travel thing doesn't match thery well with heat's book those 'mons aren't from past/future, they come from the immagination/dreams/nightmares of everyone who goes down there because the third legendary it's an antithesis of arceus from what we know, he lies in a crater and arceus's body lies in the sky, like in the divine comedy with god and lucifer, arceus can make everything he wants reality, this demon can't do it for himself but he can do it with others' immagination(we don't know what exactly trigger this, but i would say that the immagination is the most possible answer), arceus can change his typing as he wants, this demon can do the same with it's power but with 'mons wishes, what else is the terastal if not the desire of a jigglypuff to become a water type? this also applies with the terastal phenomenom in general and it will never left humanity, think of heat's monsters that he saw in his expedition, they weren't there in others explorations, but because no one was thinking to them, and they eventually died of aging/killed by other paradoxes, but the terastal is a well known phenomenon knowed in the crater 140 years before the present, and that dream was never forgotten on classified as "nonsense things" like the paradoxes, and whe they started abusing it with the tera orb, producted by sada/turum, well, they essentially started to feed the demon in the crater, because if you wish enought, crystals would grow enought to devouer the entire paldea reagion, in 10 years the region saw the arrival of tera raid crystals, and if you go in area 0, in the 4° station and interact with the crystals, they would tell you that they basically corrode the place, so if with 10 years of tera spamming we saw the tera raid cystals appearing, and terastalled 'mons outside of the crater(they can't mantein their type changes outside the crater, they said it in an history lesson) so, after maybe 10 more years the region would be completly cristallized or for the most part, so i think that we will time travel back to 200 years in the past to find the IA talking with Heath about the danger of that cursed crater, and maybe stop the madness of this eternal loop because the phantom memory page if made from the paradox of Sada/turum going back in time, understanding the power of the demon, and then trynig to tell the truth to their hero, but Heats forgets everithing and proced to write a book about the crater to inspire another sada/turum to doing what they have done and continue the loop, maybe the pacman figure means this, different craters created by x people immagination, but one source in common, the third legendary's power that makes everything happen, and maybe who knows, maybe we will stop all of this in the past, encountering the last paradox and the devil imsels in the deeps of that cursed crater. credits to the theory to cydonia, sorry for the little spam at the end but i want to credit the source of this theory
If the "pacman" circle patterns are placed over the Paldea map they point out the exact locations of the four ruinous legendary shrines. It lines up too perfectly to be coincidence.
i agree. also, this might be wrong, but if you take the 4 ruins types starting with chien-po and going on this "pac man" thing of they eat the one infront... ice is strong against ground, ground against fire, fire against grass... but this is where it breaks... just a thought
If that's true, does that mean that Quartet of Ruin actually ARE connected to the Terastalization Phenomenon? Definitely not what I would expect
I saw this image as well and it is kinda possible but you need 4 maps of pladea and if you look closely the creator of the image has moved around the lines and circles to make it look more accurate, even then they don't all line up perfectly. Not enough to notice it at a first glance but when you do it makes it pretty obvious that it likely has no meaning.
Wtf are you talking about?
@@lukemakins1992 Grass > Ground > Fire > Ice > Grass > etc. There's your circle 😉
Area zero has been one of the most interesting locations pokemon has ever made in awhile. The amount of videos made on this area cause of how weird it is from a geological aspect and symbols and metal that is unknown to others screams for theories. I’m really looking forward to seeing answers to these questions in the dlc.
Its also one of the best locations in pokemon games imo, it looks really nice and the music is good too. The place also really resembles ‘made in abyss’ which I’d be surprised if that wasn’t part of the inspiration for the great crater of paldea
If by in a awhile you mean always than yea agree
The triangle symbol isn't only reminiscent of a sextant, but also of a light cone (or null cone, basically 'zero cone'), a concept important to the theory of relativity and the concept of causality, and therefore, time travel as well.
I'm gonna have to disagree with you there, first of all, the triangles look nothing at all like a sextant, seems like the creator of that theory has never seen nor used a sextant in their life lol. Basically they went "ooh triangle, ooh another triangle" and assumed they were the same.
And I'm not too sure about yours either since light cones don't overlap and also both cones are the same, not different like that.
It looks like an hourglass to me, which is of course a timepiece.
Looks like 2 vanillish breeding to me.
@@darthpaul99 Oh yeah right, I didn't even see that. That's of course the most likely possibility.
They look more like an hourglass than a sextant.
I am actually playing in the area zero and i realized that when you arrive around the center of the zone when you can jump to go at its bottom, there is a layer of clouds. That reminded me of brine pools that you can find deep down in the sea when you have a big difference of salinity. Added to that there is the fact that it's exactly at this point that the landscape changes like a shift between two ecosystems. And the amount of cristalline pokemons (garganacl, glimmora) found at the bottom of the zone plus the terracristals are making me think that it might be inspired from the brine pools existing at the bottom of the sea.
And when you search brine pools on the net it says that animals called loricifera live in this pools, animals that looks like glimmora and has an exosqueleton with plates made of silicate. Another coincidence is that loriciferas are found in spaces between marine gravels to which they attach themselves. And glimmora are found attached to walls in area zero.
To me, the last symbol looks like the path you follow from the 3rd lab to the bottom. That underground path does spiral quite a bit before it ends at the entry to the main lab where Sado/Turo are.
Doesnt the last symbol resemble an S and a T in a very stylish way? It might be a signature made by either Sada or Turo to sign their work.
Having in mind that they are the "Final bosses" of the main story and also knowing their fate in the Area Zero It might be a reference to them.
I saw that too, because I know that the professor writes in the journals in area zero about "that woman/man walked out" so maybe it was a team effort in the beginning and that's their family insignia or something, to give credit to both sada and turo?
Yes, I was just about to post this, but I figured someone else must have noticed too. It's totally an "S" on its side layered with a "T" the only conflict with this theory is they're names aren't Sada and Turo in outside of English (except Turo on Korean)
I do believe that Turo does exist in Scarlet, and Sada in Violet, and I hope.to see them in the DLC to either explain or cause all the weird inconsistencies with Heath's account.
@@wheatunrye what do you mean those aren’t their names in English?
@@articulatedheroes9300 Oh, I did say English, haha, I meant Japanese, sorry.
9:10 I believe this symbol showing arrows spining in circle could represent the concept of time loop. This could explain why some of the paradoxe pokémon have been seen by Heath long ago before our journey. Some of the paradoxe pokémon may have been trapped into a time loop or the whole Paldea region is trapped inside a time loop.
*paradox
I like this. I also think the plate with the overlapping triangles represents Pokémon legends arcus. The portal that brings the mc in legends is above a mountain and it creates the time riffs that let you catch out of time pokemon.
So paradox. How gaggy would it be if the professor at the end of our journey leaving really goes to the time where heath is in area 0 and that’s what causes cyclizar to have forms? Heath mentions he woke up to someone giving him notes etc. this would totally create a paradox of time. Also where have we seen this? PLA with igno & arceus
The map on the plate has most of the major cities on it, it seems.
Also the “pac-man” pattern is familiar. I recall seeing something like it in a movie with time travel as a plot point. Apparently the symbols were like a time travel device/map. Considering that we find one particular paradox species in abundance near it, it could be how the paradox Pokemon got to area zero before the Time Machine was built. Having two sources for paradox Pokémon just caused the population to go into overdrive and kicked off the plot of the game.
I'm so happy to be this interested in Pokemon lore again.
Also, the “Triangle Symbol” looks a ton like an hourglass which seems to prove that it is referring to time travel in some way
I agree, it could be a combination of a sextant and an hourglass. So some kind of time navigation tool.
They all seem to me to be creative depictions of different cultural understandings of time.
The triangles: This one to me looks like an hourglass, a mechanism that depicts the passing of time in a linear and measurable way. One event happens and then another that it might have caused.
The pacman: This one I'm least sure about, but without any overt patterns, the markings are all over this, which reminds me of the idea that everything all happens at once--time is what allows us to perceive one event then another that really are co-occuring
The hexagons: These to me look like concentric circles or rings of some kind that are "flattened" to make edges, aka, a flat circle. This view of time suggests that everything has occurred before and will again in some kind of pattern.
The squiggly: This one is very reminiscent of time as a cone, a cross between linear time and flat circle. One thing happens and then another, in thematic cycles that repeat throughout history, with changes over many repetitions.
I think ive figured out the e4 interview and possibly the real villain for the dlc. So geeta is implied to be some sort of traveler. She'd be aware of other paldeas. The interview has the name of the other games school and the other questions match what you think is at various locations with whats actually there. This tells me that geeta is trying to check if you came from another world. Im thinking another geeta could try to invade and replace the geeta we have now.
Honestly, I don't think its a time machine. The contents of the scarlet book makes it seem like that the terrestrial Pokémon brings to life imagination. Because Sada was interested in the past and the Pokémon mentioned in the book, it created what she imagined. Its a machine that brings what you imagine into reality.
Another look at the triangle symbol is that it represents the Area Zero itself, first because it appears together with the Paldea shape in the plate, second because the Area Zero itself looks like a cone/triangle if seen from the side, and the other inverted triangle could mean some type of dimension that has the same shape but connect with the Pokémon universe (remembering that time itself is a dimension).
And it has those two 0s next to it
Area zero in no way looks like a cone/triangle if seen from the side lmfao.
Also you completely forgot about the two 0s.
Goes to show that you could say literally anything on the internet and people will agree with you.
@@IOwnKazakhstan yeah lol I was gonna say, area zero doesn't even slightly in a million trillion years look like a cone/triangle.
The Hexagon symbol is also on the front of the Tera Orb.
Totally random, but the "squiggles" one to me looks like an image of the crater its self. The squiggle part is representation of how you travel up and down the crater. And it has the upside down L on the top right. This looks like a its representing a barrier. Showing the paradox pokemon are coming out of the barrier and in paldea. Hence the titan pokemon. May also explain why its found outside of the crater in the lighthouse?
One thing I've been wondering. At the bottom of area zero by the zero labs, we see other buildings but can't go in.
What are those buildings for and what's inside them? :)
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@@Lokear lmao.
The triangles are a rep of "as above so below". I believe Turo and sada are similar to the Rosalind twins from bioshock. I believe the reason why the school names are different and that one has future pokemon and the other ancient is that the two games rep two different timelines and Turo and sada have left those timelines and met eachother somewhere in time / space and the dlc will explore this.
Fun fact : Scream Tails completes the jigglypuff having all 4 mains color games eye color (shiny included obviously)
Don’t think we’ll get explanations for what exactly these symbols will mean, but I think wherever you can find these symbols (not as some scribbling in a book or a lab), their locations, or at least a couple of them will be important in the dlc. I do think something important will definitely appear in that cave with the pac-man-like designs. And perhaps you’ll have to visit that one plate throughout the questline (tho I think nothing will happen with this object).
There’s also a chance we won’t see anything related to these in any dlc, and the dlc will simply be something else entirely. And perhaps that ‘third legendary’ will just be a mythic in a distribution event at the time of a movie.
I also think a potential dlc will include travelling back in time (not forwards cus that’ll just leave u with an even more degraded area zero), in which we will then see what used to be there, we will see what used to be in that waterfall cave, perhaps where that plate came from etc. That would be interesting, being able to explore an old paldea
If this is the case, *and* if the DLC does indeed turn out to be southern Kalos, they could maybe do something with the Chamber of Emptiness? That still seems really important to me, having its own location name and map just to hold one of the Arceus plates? Nah.
Great thoughts here! While I'm completely sold on at least the first symbol being a representation of the time machine, that just adds extra high octane fuel to the "how the hell did Heath know about things that wouldn't exist until years later?" fire of speculation that's been running rampant in my mind since I finished Aero Zero. I say that because that symbol is right there on the cover of the Scarlet/Violet book in-game as well. Thanks for that, lol.
The last symbol for me looked like an X-Y axis, probably to represent the space-time fabric, then the spiral was the usual representation for gravity
One issue I see is that the shape that you claim to be the hexagon shape in the book is literally not the same as the one in the title.
The one on the title could ofc just be an artistic representation of it but the one in the book is very different to the one on the title. The only similarity is hexagons.
The one on the title looks more like a pokeball with things going to the side of a solid circle, and only 2 rings, where as the one in the book has way more rings, a hollow centre hexagon, and doesn't look like a pokeball at all. Ofc as I said it could just be an artistic thing but you'd think they would be a lil more consistent no? I think the final conclusion of it being the time machine itself is true, but I don't think it has anything to do with the book.
Also imo the triangle thing doesn't look the slightest bit like a sextant (the navigatory device), once again, the only similarity is a very basic shape, a triangle.
It is possible that it's a real connection but I just think fans are finding super basic shapes and then comparing them to other things with that shape end being like "aha, i've got it"
And the only time it looks even mildly like a sextant is in the logo where it's rounded, it's not rounded in game though, and also the sextant never ever has two triangles.
The two 0s could potentially be seen as the lenses but they aren't where they're meant to be and it's also a damn huge stretch.
It's like seeing two rectangles and a circle next to each other and then deciding it's a phone. No 1, two rectangles, phone is one, No 2, phones aren't just rectangles.
I think this confusion comes from people never having seen a sextant before and so when someone suggested it they had no proof against it so it must be true ig.
So I personally think you're completely wrong about the triangle one. It could be time travel idk but the way you got to that conclusion makes 0 sense.
It's pretty clear that (no offense) the person who constructed the theory for that one has never seen or used a sextant before, because they have no link to time travel and a sextant wouldn't make any sense to put on there considering unless someone has a plan or knows where to go it's useless, wow cool you know where you are now, doesn't matter cause there's literally no where to go because you went back before humans even existed. By navigatory device it doesn't mean it tells you where to go it just tells you where you are.
Like I'm sorry but a lot of this video was a whole lot of massive stretching, too much to be true. Like you said that the 3rd symbol "must be related to time travel" because the other two are even though at no point in the game is it specifically related to time travel. And you said the last one represented time travel because it is on the professors whiteboard therefore the professors work which is about the flow of time which somehow means time travel, oh and I forgot to mention, if you look at it, that isn't even the same symbol.
I think they all are connected to time travel since it's already in the game but I just think the arguments you've given for them are kinda right out your ass.
If the symbols which look nothing like what they are in game are actually meant to be the same, I think gamefreak has done a big oopsie making them like that.
Yeah I noticed that too. (the sextant)
Doodles does not believe it's time travel but a multiverse, the triangles are the mountains of each universe and the machine at the bottom of the mountains are a gateways into the universe of known professor.
4 triangles 4 universes
I can see that being every other franchise is doing the multiverse thing plus the time travel theory doesn't make alot of sense
Nice video! I’m pretty sure these 4 symbols will play a huge role in the DLC.
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I keep thinking that the Time Machine itself may actually be or at least related to the mysterious disk Pokémon mentioned in the book
I wish Pokémon would go harder with the lore. Or at least provide some games with deeper lore for those that like that kind of stuff.
They haven’t even spitballed how pokeballs, trade evolutions etc work. They could make up some total nonsense and I’d be happy. Although it’s fun that it’s so vague.
Gives us fans something to talk about
There could be a connection to the war waged 3,000 years ago in the Pokemon World in the SCARLET and VIOLET DLC because we're informed about the war from 3,000 years ago but never told the full story
Do you mean the one AZ ended?
@@alexkuhn5188 Yes but more about AZ &the Azoth Kingdom like being able to play as AZ
to be honest the circles could represent a compass, because the circles DO also take the position of north, east, south, and west
Time travel and the fact that legend arceus is in the past could be some kind of relation as well
The last unknown symbol reminds me of a door opening and something unknown or indescribable coming out of the door much like the past/present mons.
I honestly always assumed the time machine waaass the “mysterious” one cause he didnt understand what he was seeing 4:08
Another symbol that's probably going to have some significants is the symbol on the loading screen and on Geeta's glove.
Well, I hope we do get some kind of answers. If not, it could well become a plot hole.
I would hope so. Once you beat the game, Arven does point out that how did the paradox Pokémon get mentioned in the scarlet and violet books, if the professors Time Machine was built after the books were written?
So, is there some other time travel shenanigans going on? Did the paradox Pokémon get lost in transit from their time to the present, allowing for them to have been in area zero when heath explored it?
Is it the work of this mysterious legendary Pokémon?
It would be ridiculous if we don’t get an answer to at least that particular mon… surely, they wouldn’t tease a Pokémon like that and it never eventuate, right?
Hmmm. Who knows? Maybe the DLC won’t be a new location, but new time zones. Maybe you could actually meet heath and join his expedition?
Or maybe they’ll just drop it altogether and do something unrelated leaving it all a mystery.
I hope that last one doesn’t happen.
Honestly im still not convinced about the time travel. I still think its a cover for the paradoxes being imagined into existence by the power of the 3rd legendary effecting people
It would be really cool if they brought back the ultra wormhole mechanic, or at least reworked it to fit a time travel theme. Pokemon has really been getting into things like that, like what we saw with the concept of PLA itself and the space time distortions. I'd love to travel back through time on my Miraidon the way we traveled through space on Solgaleo/Lunala in USUM.
I wonder what Ms. Reinharts "nasty plot" is going to be. She'll be the bad guy of the DLC.
Do the dots on the map reflect the locations of Pokemon centers?
We can recharge the tera Orbs via the centers, so maybe they're tera power spots?
Almost. I just checked the map and the dots are the locations of every town and city in Paldea. I assume that the plate came from the future since there is no known way in the present to somehow engrave it.
But why would someone send this to the "past" (our present) when we already know those locations? Unless there is something we didn't discover yet 🤔
@@beegbraintako6140 probably something underground, probably some parts to build the time machine.
Sent from the future to the past to make sure the time machine gets built..
Sent by Turo to Sada to make sure they'll meet and to make sure Arven exists
Bottom Left- Hexagons surrounding a Pokeball. Hexagons are very closely tied to Tera crystals, so we can assume this glyph is just representative of terastallization.
Top Left- A Light Cone and a sextant at the same time. A Sextant to tie into the themes of exploration, and a Light Cone to tie into time travel.
Bottom Right - A sigil doubling as an S and a T. The signature both Sada and Turo use for their work. Could also be a coordinate grid with a spiral on it.
Here's an idea. The pokemon are classified as paradox pokemon. As in they should not there. But people are focusing and forgetting that space is a factor as well. They may vary well be from a parallel world. They may not from ARE time line
The phantom memory makes me think of the hexagon patterns of the c-gear and his mention of “as if in a dream” also ties into the dream world in the same game. Black and white 2
Here's my take, the spiral symbol is ment to represent the galaxy the World of Pokemon takes place, the measuring device symbol is used to calculate the earth's position as you can't send something through space-time and expect it to be at the exact same location due to the planets rotation around the Sun and the rotation of the galaxy . The hexagon is the time machine, and the intercepting rings/circles are ment to represent the location of parallel universes and to calculate how and where they have a branching/point of origin in which people and pokemon can pass through them freely.
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the very first thing I thought when looking at the symbols is, I think one of those is the ruin doors and one is the disk pokémon hexagon.
the second thought I had was, this is giving me weird flashbacks to how people tried to interpret the background symbols in "Don't Hug Me I'm Scared" that the show suddenly decided to half-explain on its finale. does this mean pokémon's npcs are actually trying to escape the cycle of formulaic games
edit: no, it doesn't match the doors, they have more of a circuit pattern. though you could almost argue it's four stakes
I'm personally a time travel skeptic, I believe the time machine is just connected to other dimensions in space rather than time, but the symbols still hold up relatively speaking.
Hexagon: The "time machine" - the wormhole to other dimensions. Turo/Sada mentions how the tera crystals enhance Pokemon's powers and optimise machinery, so I propose the tera crystals mutated regular Pokemon from other dimensions (as we know, all Pokemon games are in their own timelines) into Paradox Pokemon.
Triangles: A map of the stars? Perhaps it's a map from alien Pokemon to help them find their way home - the Terastal legendary might be from space, considering if it crashed and created the Paldean crater.
Pac-Man: Could be crop circles from the alien Pokemon, or a map of the Ruinous Shrines
Turo/Sada's Lab Symbol: It reminds me of an XY plane (the 2 arrows) and the curvy line overall represent the classical depiction of the "wormhole", which could be for time travel but also inter-dimensional travel.
Guys, the lower right symbol in the game logo what does it show: something coming from a top right point.
Where's the only point we can't go to or navigate/climb towards in Paldea? The landmass at the top right of the region
Something's coming in the DLC, I just know it!
arvens parents are not dead imo. The ai I says they die but maybe the simply went to their respective paradox time . Leaving directions to their past future versions on how how to create the ai versions . I’m suspecting we will have a paradox dimension and we end up in with some kinda new legendary capture mechanic (like the shsw raids, wormholes) and the storyline to bring the prof back
The triangles represent time or a light cone. the overlapping area represents area zero where multiple presents exist at the same place and time through the crystal growths, which are time crystals, which are one of the states of matter. This is what makes time travel possible in this area.
The last symbol that you assumed it is the time flow, actually represents quite closely how a Pokeball sucks in a pokemon but from the side.
Do you think they could represent the 4 other legendary Pokémon?
Who knows, if don’t get answers in the DLC , then there’s always the possibility of getting answers in Gen 10.
When has that ever happened? The only gen connected were 1 and 2.
It's funny because there are so many unsolved mysteries in the Pokémon franchise that I don't even bother paying attention to any of these things anymore when I'm playing
I would love to know what mythical are we getting for this generation. Also, wasn’t there an ape like pokemon in one of the books?
the hexagonal shape reminds me of zygarde which does correlate with things found within the game
I think the 4 symbols link to the box legendaries, I feel there’s more to them than we know at the moment. My guess is because their symbol is at the top while the other four are in the corners. We can use our ride mon for battle at the end, and we also get to catch another one.
I think it’s one more form that they’ll get based on their Pokédex descriptions:
Koraidon (Scarlet): This seems to be the Winged King mentioned in an old expedition journal. It was said to have split the land with its bare fists.
Miraidon (Violet): This seems to be the Iron Serpent mentioned in an old book. The Iron Serpent is said to have turned the land to ash with its lightning.
Based on the wording, these Pokémon sounds like they had a much more menacing form than we know of. Couple that with the 3rd legendary and the 4 logos, we should unlock more of the mystery behind them as we get DLC is my guess
First thought on the third would be some sort of gate. It's kinda set up like a star piece in the middle. Flying Omelette makes a good point, which would make Area Zero the central point, the center of the Crater. Terastalization exists no where else.
As for the last symbol. In the video of Sada, you can see a graph that looks very odd... The symbol itself likely representing an axis. And XYZ axis specifically. Which is another math reference, and given she's mapping ripples in time... The connections between the events are fairly obvious, which makes the legendary Tera pokemon something that smashed through time. It doesn't exist in reality, only able to reach out via it's mind. And the time machine uses it's presence to actually work, like mapping a star chart to find your way across time.
If I had the game, I'd e very interested in those dots on the plate/map. What do they correlate to?
Hope you get the game
That last one with the squiggle reminded me of either quadrants on a X-Y graph, this being the 3rd quadrants based on placement, with the fibonacci sequence swirl or clock hands and similar to Doctor Who, wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff represented by the swirl like in the intro for that show.
Hexagon is a hexagonal tunnel, as seen on the drawing. It represents trading.
Two opposing triangles and two ovals is a trainer battle. Ovals are pokemon you and your opponent use.
Pennyfarting thing represents exploration. It's a track of your movement.
The 4 packmen is union circle. Do I even have to explane this one?
Biggest unsolved mistery is why isn't there a fucking patch yet.
the 'squiggly" symbol looks a lot like a spiral. it makes me think that its the path that leads down through area zero, bc that was sort of a spiral shape too
The triangle symbol: doesn't scream sexton to me but maybe, at the very least it's an egg timer, or perhaps a visual representation of how the time travelling energy looks when active
The PAC man's: makes me wonder about Lockstins alchemy angle on things but also reminiscent of the sort of "bindings" Arceus, Palkia & dialga (alt forms) have
Hexagons: at least it's some sort of graph at most it helps depict the legendary powering the machine
Swirl: it almost looks like an upside down graph depicting the axis of time & space one might call it timey whimey
I think that there is no actual time travel. The 3rd Legendary is from a crystal realm of dreams and imagination. The ancients wiped themselves out trying to reach it, leaving only the Orichalcum plate in Area Zero, the Professor followed in their footsteps. All of the Paradox Pokemon are just manifested ideas that the Professor got from the occult magazines. Heath's partner Pokemon was a Cyclizar, and he probably dreamed of seeing a different and more powerful version of it, creating Koraidon/Miraidon. A lot of stuff points in the direction of dreams: the emphasis of finding your own treasure, the pages about imagined Pokemon in the S/V Book and the occult magazines, and the problems with the timeline.
wdym, time travel is literally confirmed to be in the game and miraidon and koraidon +paradox pokemon are also confirmed to be old pokemon.
We literally see the time machine in action in the game. And there also is no proof that the plate is made of orichalcum which we also have no genuine proof that orichalcum is those crystals/even exists as a physical thing in the games. Apart from koraidons ability there is no mention of orichalcum. The crystals have no connection to orichalcum aside from a theory made by someone. In the game there is NO proof of any of what you just said. This is why theory vids are so weird. People get so wrapped up in them that they forget what's a theory and what's actually in the game that they are talking about.
@@IOwnKazakhstan no none of that is confirmed, you as the player ASSUME that's what it is because that's what the characters ALSO assume. The problem is if you look at dex entries for paradox from the OPPOSITE game they don't make sense. The professor may also believe they made a working time machine but the problem is that some paradox pokemon already exist prior to the construction as indicated by the scarlet/violet book. That would be impossible is the machine wasn't created yet and Arden even makes a comment about it. We also know that the paradox virizion and suicune will appear in dlc but the descriptions in the books literally say that they come from the artist imagination. Those pokemon don't exist outside of someone's imagination so how could they possibly appear. Almost all the "future" paradox entries infer something similar. It all seems like a giant mislead where we as the player THINK it's time travel because it's what we're told and makes sense on the surface level but once you dig it all doesn't add up.
@@IOwnKazakhstan If you look at the descriptions of Paradox pokemon, a lot of them mention dubious magazines. From Iron Thorns' description: "It has some similarities to a Pokémon introduced in a dubious magazine as a Tyranitar from one billion years into the future." Why mention the dubious magazine at all and not just say its a Tyranitar from the future? How did Heath see Paradox Pokemon 2000 years in the past if the Professor in the present is the one that built the "time machine" that brought them to Paldea? How did the Professor bring Koraidon/Miraidon out of Area Zero before they built the "time machine"? There are too many problems with the time travel idea and too many hints in-game that something weird is going on. I guess we'll see when the DLC drops.
The pacmam like symbols look similar to the symbols in the Shinjoh Ruins, in my opinion, because one of the legendary pokémon has to do with time itself and the other is space. So it is possible that area could be a rip in the space time continuum from a fight when someone tried to summon them. Which, in turn, allows for time travel in that area itself.
A mystery for me is after you catch the violant Koridon or Miridon you hear a roar followed by something saying Agius?! I bet thats the Tyrastilized origin pokemon.
I just noticed how the time machine ''entrance'' looks like a modernized ultra wormhole, like they wanted to make it look like that maybe in an early concept. Maybe theres a relation?
Triangle Symbol - The lost city of Atlantis. The top triangle is what rose with the bottom being the crater. The map in the middle represents the same, and it holds technology lost to mankind. The metal used is based on Orichelchum, a metal found in Atlantis. (You can search more about this theory because I dont want to write an essay here)
Hexagon Symbol - The "Time" machine itself. The creation that allows to convert will power into living things.
Squiggly Symbol - Unknown. Possibly something within the DLC we have yet to see, that the researchers Turo or Sada may have been studying at the time. A subtle hint we have yet to uncover.
The Alien / Pacman symbols - Markins that have existed before the expeditions and heith (or however you spell it) book was written. Could be symbols of lost science, something related to older buildings that used to stand there, or marks representing something of Atlantis. Cant theorize much on these sadly.
And the city of Atlantis did not sink in this game, it started to fly. That is what the triangle symbols represent.
This is the theory I have found to be the most believable! And the most agreed on
The tablet with the Paldea map has every city marked down but Glaseado, Porto Marinada, and Zapipico
My favorite unsolved mystery is the Disk pokemon.
My theory:
- hourglass image = time travel, past paradox and future paradox Pokémon overlap into the present day due to Sada & Turo’s research (represented by the two smaller circles on the right)
- “Pac-Man” image = footprints of Heath’s time machine from 200 years ago
- disc image = terra crystals, derived from the third legendary, and is the source of terrastal power for Pokémon in Paldea
- “loop” image = Herba Mystica, which the professors were studying at home since the plant was found throughout the region outside of area zero, and gives enhanced power to local Pokémon (native to paldea as well as Pokémon which managed to escape area zero like great dusk/iron treads)
Area Zero, before I even got there, but especially once I got there, reminded me of the Cerulean Cave from gen 1.....magical, dangerous, high level versions of most of the game's final evolutions, legendary at the bottom.....love it.
A lot of this video assumes that time travel did actually happen. But there's evidence to suggest that maybe there was never any time travel involved and the so called time machine isn't one at all but the hexagon disk pokemon itself that creates what you desire or expect to see.
Let's not forget that Bill built a time machine before Sada and Toro.
God pokemon is so cool. They made pokeballs in basically the 1800s and now they have a literal time machine in the pokemon version of 2022. If only the real world was as advanced.
Nicely done, Hoops! Can't wait to learn more...
Gotta love that S tier music in Area Zero
I think the triangle symbol is the Lakota Symbol.
The triangle at the top represents the Sun & Stars while the triangle at the bottom represents the Earth.
Tera Crystals do seem to have a lot of connections with the "Light".
They also seen too be growing towards the sun like flowers.
Anyway, the Lakota symbol represents the connection between the Earth and the Sun/Stars.
The center represents the connection and the phenomenon caused with this connection.
The dots are not present for the Lakota symbol, but considering they're places as if they come from this connection, I do believe that this plate is telling us that when Tera Crystals and light meet up, strange stuff starts to appear.
As a sidenote:
The 4 legendary Pokemon have a Chinese connection (obviously) to the five heavenly beasts in it's mythology.
The fifth one that's missing would be the Snake representing Metal.
Together they form the cycle of creation AND the cycle of destruction, both themes that are present within the lore of the game.
(Which ironically would fit extremely well with Xerneas and Yveltal as well)
Hoopsandhiphop You're missing something about Legendary treasure coins based off Meowth forehead Coins undiscovered by Paldean Empire - Roman Empire BCE century and over 4000 Years ago - 5000 Year's ago Egypt mythology language Coins made by Government Palace owner of Meowth As well
you are overthinking it.
the answer is very simple:
top left corner: tablets of ruin
bottom left corner: vesel of ruin
top right corner:beads of ruin
bottom right ruin:swords of ruin.
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
We need a third installment of the game (I.e Emerald, platinum, or even a black or white 2) in order to piece together the timeline events to what we already know. For instance:
In both installments in scarlet & violet, both professor Turo & sada in their games are both dead. My question is this, are they both “truly” dead?
Having a sequel or future DLC to elaborate on this would be fascinating to see what mystery is behind all of this
Congrats on 301k!
@hoopsandhiphop I'd love to see a video on both the watchtowers and ruins and get your take on it. I find them pretty mysterious as being one of the few (if not only) man made structures in the region aside from the towns and cities
The squiggle symbol appears to me to symbolize traveling down into the depths of the crater. Imagine a top-down view and the fact you have to travel down the crater by walking its edges in a circular pattern and you'll get it.
5:25 Now then, Heath wrote books, what's another word for book, Ledger, Heath Ledger.
The triangles are the timelines coming together and the two circles beside it are Turo and sada! Maybe they made the tablet together in the past because they are stuck 'outside of time' and we're only able to put the tablet in the past to assist themselves in starting the process of making the time machines with would make a paradox. This would explain why the pokemon are called paradox pokemon. (I posted other comments that explain further)
All this time traveling stuff in this game has piqued the archeologist or paleontologist in me (I know the difference but not sure which is applied). Im more fascinated with Area Zero than anything. I find Professor Sada's tragedy all the more disheartening like she joins the long list of those who perished throughout Paldea's history when it comes to Area Zero. Gamefreak made a gold mine when they explored this aspect of Pokemon. Wondering many questions about the Far Distanced Future or the Prehistoric Past. History has always fascinated me irl and this hits that part of me right on the head. Its like the mystery of Atlantis or the Bermuda Triangle and other unsolved historical mysteries of our own world. I guess this aspect of me is what attracts me to love Ghost type pokemon too. Hisuian Typhlosion and Gengar being my top favorite Ghost type pokemon.
I imagine Scarlet and Violet will set the stage for future DLCs or games that wonder into this area of fantasy or mystery in the Pokemon World. We have yet to have a Pokemon game that is set in the ancient past like Ancient Egypt or Rome like setting or even in medieval Europe like setting (Legends Arceus doesnt count as its only set in the 1700s to 1800s and thats more closer to modern times).
I don't think the symbols have to do with DLC at all, persay, but rather what the game has in it. Such as the pacmans are the 4 shrines, the squiggly symbol is the initials of Sada and Toro, the triangles (hour glass) symbol is the literal symbol of time or time travel, and the hexagon is the terastalization itself since it's on the Tera ball and what not.
The triangle symbol looks like the team magma symbol if the mountain iconography is removed.
I am really curious as to what the dot marks on the map of Paldea on the metal plaque of unknown origin. They don't exactly line up with where gym leaders are located but is SORT of close?
They're close to where most cities are I think? One is at our character's house, which scares me a bit.
Has anyone checked if they line up with the unlockable fly points like the watchtowers and the Ten Sights Of Paldea?
Can’t wait for the DLC 🥳
If you noticed! The pacman symbols overlapped on the map of paldea reveals the legendary locations!
There ARE satellite-esque dishes, located at the topmost cliffs of zero. Spookily, there's 6 of them total. Spookier, they are spread out in a ring, and they are facing each other... spookiest, if connected by lines, form a hexagon
the symbol with 4 circles could connect to the 4 Dark Type Legendaries sealed away.
...or the imagined paradox pokemon based on the 4 Swords Of Justice, but that is Violet exclusive, so...
Three swords, Keledo isn't included. And the Beast Trio from Jhoto is Scarlet
@@brianlance8263 Keldeo's design may not be included in the design of the imagined paradox pokemon, but Keldeo is 1 of the 4 Swords Of Justice just as much as Enamorus is 1 of the Fources of Nature.
Regardless, I do believe the 4 circle design is the 4 Treasures Of Ruin.
Cayla's Capsule has a nice video on this subject that is pretty nice too
Some of the symbols remind me of alchemy symbols I once saw. Also the last symbol looks kinda looks like attack coordination, like where a weapon would be fired and calculating trajectory.
I think the squiggle is the book itself - the right angle being a corner of the book and the squiggle representing the writings and equations in the book
Here is a theory, because Ai Turo and Ai Sada time travel in the ending, a time travel Paradox is occurring. So the futuristic metal late was left by AI Turo and the cave floor engraving left by AI Sada.
The last symbol discussed reminds me of a fibonacci sequence. That combined with the right angle depicted may offer a better explanation of the symbol as a whole. I havnt looked into it much but it may be a possibility
5:25 to be exact, in japanese they said that heat and his squad tried to scrape the plate but they failed, meaning that the plate isn't indestructible, but they didn't had the tools to do it, also he doesn't mention the paldea's map on the plate, but if it was there before the exploration, andanyone could survive the first levels of area 0 before(we don't know what happened to the exploration-suicide missions that occured before heat's one, but if he didn't have the equipment to do it, why should someone that ipotetically arrived there 1200 years before him) also if you watch the map, you can notice that the shape of paldea's map(crater excluded) isnt' made with in the same way that was made the rest of the plate.
the triangles on the plate could also mean that there is a place where 2 plains of reality cross, the upper triangle is the crater, the lower is were the third legendary lies and the intersection could easily mean that there you can enter the realm of the third legendary/see him.
we also know that area zero data name is "atlantis" and this isn't a random name(random names are aaaaaaaaa and bbbbbbb, for whose don't know, these are iron valiant and roaring moon 's names in the game files) and there are some references to that,:
1) the legendaries abilities are inspired by atlantis in a way or another, for example orichalchum pulse is a reference to atlantis most famous metal, a metal so important for them that they used it in the poseidon temple building and miraidon's one, hadron engine, comes from the adrons collider(lhc) where one of the detectors is called Atlas, and who is atlas? the first king of atlantis(it's also a titan, but i don't think he is related to atlantis in any way), and so is possible that one time there was an ancient civilization that was destroyed and now their ruins are only the pacman thing on the ground and the plate.
6:50 unfortunatly the time travel thing doesn't match thery well with heat's book those 'mons aren't from past/future, they come from the immagination/dreams/nightmares of everyone who goes down there because the third legendary it's an antithesis of arceus from what we know, he lies in a crater and arceus's body lies in the sky, like in the divine comedy with god and lucifer, arceus can make everything he wants reality, this demon can't do it for himself but he can do it with others' immagination(we don't know what exactly trigger this, but i would say that the immagination is the most possible answer), arceus can change his typing as he wants, this demon can do the same with it's power but with 'mons wishes, what else is the terastal if not the desire of a jigglypuff to become a water type? this also applies with the terastal phenomenom in general and it will never left humanity, think of heat's monsters that he saw in his expedition, they weren't there in others explorations, but because no one was thinking to them, and they eventually died of aging/killed by other paradoxes, but the terastal is a well known phenomenon knowed in the crater 140 years before the present, and that dream was never forgotten on classified as "nonsense things" like the paradoxes, and whe they started abusing it with the tera orb, producted by sada/turum, well, they essentially started to feed the demon in the crater, because if you wish enought, crystals would grow enought to devouer the entire paldea reagion, in 10 years the region saw the arrival of tera raid crystals, and if you go in area 0, in the 4° station and interact with the crystals, they would tell you that they basically corrode the place, so if with 10 years of tera spamming we saw the tera raid cystals appearing, and terastalled 'mons outside of the crater(they can't mantein their type changes outside the crater, they said it in an history lesson) so, after maybe 10 more years the region would be completly cristallized or for the most part, so i think that we will time travel back to 200 years in the past to find the IA talking with Heath about the danger of that cursed crater, and maybe stop the madness of this eternal loop because the phantom memory page if made from the paradox of Sada/turum going back in time, understanding the power of the demon, and then trynig to tell the truth to their hero, but Heats forgets everithing and proced to write a book about the crater to inspire another sada/turum to doing what they have done and continue the loop, maybe the pacman figure means this, different craters created by x people immagination, but one source in common, the third legendary's power that makes everything happen, and maybe who knows, maybe we will stop all of this in the past, encountering the last paradox and the devil imsels in the deeps of that cursed crater.
credits to the theory to cydonia, sorry for the little spam at the end but i want to credit the source of this theory
did you notice that the plate has some "dots" that may show the position of all the cities, except the on on the far right?