Koji Kondo and many other musical talents at Nintendo are just geniuses at how they compose music. I think it is just amazing how a simple theme written overnight has had so many hidden references in so many different ways over 35+ years, it just really blows my mind.
A cool detail about the S.O.S signals is that each appears later in their respective theme to signify how long it took each Champion to call for help. Mipha’s appears first, seeing as she’s a healer not a fighter. Next is Urbosa and Daruk. Then finally Revali, who waited the longest out of being a cocky moron, but his plays the most frantically.
Don't call a champion a moron for being tenacious and brave in that situation. It's not like giving up was an option. All of these characters matter to some players. Don't kick them while they're down.
People connect with stories, that's the point. Isn't that why you wrote your comment on a Zelda video in the first place? Also the point i was trying to make was that even if you don't respect the character, at least have some respect for fellow players. Hating on Revali has become so normalised that it's difficult for players who connected with his story to have a civil discussion with others. That is unfortunate for real people and not how the game was intended to affect the community. This video delves a bit into how depressing the story can be already, which is an experience all players share. I was simply gently nudging to be a little mindful and refrain from insulting things that real people who watch this video care about, so no one feels excluded from the discussion. Shouldn't be much to ask. We don't have to make a thing out of it.
@@AltairLeviosaRight. But he was being objectively stupid, he was flying above the kingdom, he saw what the calamity was doing from a bird’s eye view, he should have realised “Oh no, i’m in danger, i need reinforcements” and sent out the SOS ASAP, but he didn’t because he was like “Nah, I can take him”
@@Stusheep Stupid is not the word. Revali's main trait is being prideful, to the point of it being detrimental. He is one the best Rito warriors in the last thousands of years, and one the best warrior in whole of Hyrule before the Calamity --and he knows it. And from everyone's point of view, the Calamity shouldn't even have been a problem. There were thousands of guardians ready to destroy Ganon, 4 mech mastodontes ready to obliterate him, and the best warriors in the world. When he saw the Calamity appear, he felt confident --as everyone did-- that they would defeat it. But when he realized otherwise, it was too late. So he stood his ground, he decided to go the best way a warrior could: fighting to its end to protect his people. Assuming some theories about how atrocious the Blights were to the Champions, it's fair to say the latter were downright tortured to their death. The fact that Revali held out his cries for hope the longest shows how important his pride was. *He didn't want others to die like he did.* He even dropped all of his pride to warn Link of how dangerous the Wind Blight is (granted, the in-game experience isn't that overwhelming). Revali wasn't stupid.
This was the first comment I read after posting and it made my day. 😁 That's the goal, find stuff nobody talks about and shine light on it. It's crazy to say this, but the music of Zelda and Koji Kondo are... UNDERRATED. Which is insane because they are already held in such high regard. And yet there is still so much that goes unnoticed.
Another example that people might have pointed out already is the game over jingle in BotW- it is a fancy b2 chord if we’re in c minor, the key of the main theme.
Oh wow I didn't notice that one. Very nice catch! I love how a ton of these have a major 7 and sharp 11. I kept this video light on the music theory because it's so advanced.
I had never noticed it was a slow version of Ganondorf theme when beating a boss in OOT I cannot believe it. OOT is literally the first video game I have ever played a couple of decades ago ahah
I discovered this about 2 months ago and was absolutely blown away. This video was actually exactly the order in which I heard all these. First champions, then divine beasts, main theme, Hyrule Castle theme, then Kass's theme. Then I realized the Z1 theme, and started looking at Ganon's themes. And then in Ocarina of Time heard the Boss Defeated (and I think someone left a comment saying it was referenced in TOTK Ganon Transformation), and I noticed it's in the same key! Absolutely incredible. And then at the end heard all the 54b3b21 chord progressions. Sick.
I love theorizing about Zelda so much, but having no knowledge of music I feel like I'm missing out on so much! I just think "oh, that's the ganondorf theme" or "oh, zelda's lullaby".. Thank you for sharing with us what you can see.
The musical callbacks to ALttP in even the most subtle ways really show how central to the series‘ identity it is. It is the original gameplay formula perfected, offering exploration as well as complex dungeon design. Your observations just hammered that home for me once again. Thank you so much for sharing your amazing insight as always!
The fact that you pretty much proved a new OOT theory after all this time is absolutely incredible! This is truly amazing work! Thank you for your contributions!
Holy hell Koji Kondo. I never would have imagined the man has been this consistent in using the same tools to essantially tell a concise narrative about the fight between good and evil all throughout the history of this series. What a man.
That final ending scene in OoT never fails to make me tear up a little whenever I replay it lol. I love and respect the research you do for these videos, man. Keep up the great work!
Some ppl grow up hearing a lot of Bach, or the Stones, or whatever. I grew up hearing a lot of Zelda music, so it's kinda the basis of whatever "ear" I have in music, which is not a very good one. Like, I can't hear a chord progression in one piece and then in another piece and find a relationship, unless it's in both the same key and time, or there are other very strong contextual connections. The way you explain these by overlaying one track over another, or playing one over another, MAKES ME HEAR IT. The music of my own childhood. Things I never knew about it and would never be able to hear if you only played them one after another or just talked about them. Thank you for your choice to do this! (This is exactly where 8-bit Music Theory has gone wrong for me, though I love him anyway - he's talking over my head.) Liked, subbed. Also you are hot.
I even cut 2-3 examples of that chord progression (2 memories, Grooseland, Vah Rudania). And a lot of bII in other Zelda games. Just too much for one video lol.
This is Glitterberri levels of dedication (with all that implies). Random internet nobody here so take this for what it's worth, but you had a cut every threeish seconds and it almost encroached on the enjoyability of the video. Obviously the content of the video was beyond my ability to praise adequately, the work you put into these videos is impressive and certainly pays off. Thank you.
Thank you so much! Fewer video cuts would certainly make my life easier editing 😅 I try really hard to make it as additively engaging as possible. But maybe a few fewer cuts would actually help. My wife told me in one of my first videos that it made her dizzy because I cut so many times in such a small span. 😬 Maybe B roll footage instead of so many cuts. Always refining and improving. And you're not a random internet nobody, you're a valuable ZMT viewer whose input will always be considered 🙏🏼 Have an amazing day.
@@ZeldaMusicTheory LOVE the video and I'm excited to see more of your channel, just sub'd today! I wanted to thank you for taking this feedback seriously, as something I experience (I am autistic) with rapid cuts in video is visual overstimulation. It would be a lot easier for me to process information with a little less frequent cuts as well, so just sharing my two cents in case it's helpful. :) I also recognize that shortform content has increased the prevalence of rapid changes in visual media overall, so I understand it is a balance!
Honestly I'm just trusting you with these connections, I can't really hear the similarity of these. This video was so interesting, thank you so much! Keep up the good work!
BoTW is a deceptively dark and moody game. Everything ties together to make Hyrule feel like a large-scale graveyard, and every monument is a tombstone of their creators / dwellers. As someone with no musical experience I LOVE seeing how it integrates with that mood. Great video.
The way the main song is played it's like it's weeping in desperation during certain parts you can hear the emotions being played it's absolutely outstanding. In-between loz, monster hunter, and studio Ghibli I've never seen any other music writers able to express emotions through instruments so perfectly!!!
Omg the "drummers aren't musicians" 😂 The nostalgia you evoke in these references is just unreal. I sit here like 😮 cause I remember the music of ALTTP and OoT like I just played them and the revelation of these references just makes me want to play BotW and TotK with the volume up. I feel like I missed so much. 😂 I have listened to the soundtracks in their entirety but it isn't the complete experience. To me THAT is what the chord is truly about. That intricate layer that evokes the senses for a specific region, character, and moment from game to game. Pure genius! Great video, Kevin!
So basically the zelda formula tends to be gripping exactly because it makes games about grief, loss, and a spiritual restoration from states of dispair
The song that plays when the champions fire their Divine Beasts at Calamity Ganon is the same that plays when the moon is destroyed in Majora's Mask or at least, the start of it. Just something I'd thought you would like.
Yeah, I’m undecided on that one. There is some validity to it, but not 100% sure if it was intentional. And that’s the exact type of thing I always want to know, so ty for sharing it.
I absolutely love hearing more theories about Zelda music. I love music too, so it’s amazing to see someone like you using your talents to make sense of all the music in the Zelda games. That last part gave me chills
Truly amazing! I am a die-hard LOZ fan and musician. I've been sitting over here collecting flies this whole video from my mouth hanging open because I never put any of this together!! I am so glad that I found your channel. Subscriber for LIFE!
You are so passionate about Zelda music. Thank you for sharing your passion with the rest of us. I have been playing Zelda games for over 30 years, and I have had more appreciation for the references of the Zelda music themes since I started watching your channel. Thanks again.
I can tell! Every time I thought it was done, the flat 2 iceberg just kept getting deeper! I'd daresay the "bII" chord also qualifies for being called "the Zelda chord" at this point. After thinking about it, I thought I've heard another example of this phenomenon in the final trailer for Tears of the Kingdom, at that moment when the game title appears. It definitely moves from the one chord up to the flat 2, but listening to the whole chord harmonically, I think it might technically be a minor 7 chord in first inversion. But it's still got that "bII" in the bass!
I was in shock when you brought up inside vah medoh. It’s one of my favorite tracks. Edit: AGAIN WITH HYRULE CASTLE AND MEMORY. these are my favorite tracks. My only complaint is how short these themes are. 9:16
Love the videos man! Not a music theorist myself but love Zelda music and playing the piano. I catch quite a lot of references but your videos make me realize just how much I miss, and it’s incredible. Keep up the great work!
Insane! The Ganondorf theme matching OOT is so obvious. I heard/realised it in your vid just before you revealed but not sure if I ever noticed while I was playing. So cool! Love your videos so much!
Hahaha I always give like 3-4 seconds for your brain to process before I slam in a reference. My hope is that viewers go, “Wait wait, isn’t that…” Reference hits “Yes!!!” 🤣
Just found your channel. I play a lot of OOT randomizers. I was randomizing custom music recently, but I might just have to switch back to all vanilla music. New love and appreciation for all these scores, now.
As someone who’s never played OoT but has played BotW, in that scene with Navi the chords definitely made me feel like it was the “evil” chord coming to an end. It’s so beautiful that it’s used when the champions help against the boss fight when their purpose is fulfilled, and for Zelda who is destined to defeat Calamity Ganon.
Great video, sorry I was late in commenting as I had been hoping for this one ever since you started the channel! You put a lot of work into finding all the references, it is mind boggling how many references there are to previous games. I still find it insane that BoTW theme backwards is ToTK’s theme, and Zelda’s lullaby backwards is Skyward Sword’s theme.
17:35 leaving the root chord out at the end of the first piece, but letting it happen as the last chord in the work is a concept I got introduced to by Dream Theater. If you listen to their concept album Octavarium, you'll hear it happen. (They even call one part of a song Full Circle, iirc)
sooooo cool this video gave me goosebumps over and over i've really been itching for a good zelda music theory video and this one has really done it for me!! thanks for creating such a cool video
I love your channel, and i love your videos! The music of tloz is honestly super nice and calm to listen to, and this makes it 100x better. Thanks for the content.
Huh, I just wanted to relax watching a video in bed before sleeping. I ended up getting chills, crying, and thinking about things I'm going to tell my therapist on wednesday. Dude, I have a degree in art and studied a little bit of music, but I can NEVER understand the Bs and Gs and stuff. But while you were talking about those things I just FELT everything. I'm very sensible and emotional about zelda, and zelda's music always sound so cohesive to me, everything seems so much like a unity, that sometimes (even knowing where the song is from) they all feel the """"same"""". Now I understand why. This franchise never cease to amaze me. Wow thank you for that experience. Great video!!
I absolutely love your analysis…this makes me appreciate so much more the depth and beauty of the Legend of Zelda. Never fails to move me…and to inspire me to fight the darkness with light ⚔️😊
I think there's a few more connections here with Link to the Past, not just in the Ganon fight, but the end credits, and the opening intro music during the story cutscene
16:03 The "III, bII, I" progression was also made reference during the ending of Skyward Sword. And just like Ocarina of Time, it plays when you leave the Master Sword at its pedestal. It's called Beginning's End Theme, just listen at 0:43 (in the same key as well): th-cam.com/video/D5Qbxh8gp3E/w-d-xo.html
Oh nice. Yeah the last 4 chords in that theme are I major, then II Dom 7 in 3rd inversion (Which those two chords alone are what makes up the first 4 bars of Zelda's Lullaby...) then the bII, back to I. Nice.
Fun Fact : Ganons four chord theme is also at the tail end of the doctor who theme variation and represents the danger and mystery of the time vortex. :)
BII can definitely evoke different moods based on context. It’s used in “She Was Like A Sunflower” in Mother 3, for instance. Also, the bII can be a Neapolitan chord, but I don’t recall what the harmonic context is exactly.
"Hey! Listen!" I'm listening. And watching even. After watching: This was amazing, plain and simple. Figuring all of this out is amazing, but having all these references in a franchise that's close to 40 years old is amazing, too. I don't know why, but I even teared up a few times. Well, to be fair, the theme from the memory of Zelda finally unlocking her powers does seem to get me. As for the darkness of BotW, if pre-TotK discourse is anything to go by, it seems many people see darkness only if it's also dark in atmosphere. BotW is basically a post-apocalyptic setting, ruins have been overtaken by nature, the people have tried to move on in those 100 years since, but I guess it's too colourful for people to notice the underlying darkness of the heroes having lost once. BotW is a story of regret. It's a good thing they didn't get permission to use Bolero, because it created one of the most iconic themes in video games.
ok not to brag here but i finished my arct music theory so this video is absolutely blowing my mind. also, the flat II chord (bII) is also called the neapolitan chord and can be found very commonly as bII6 or N6
100%, but in these examples (most of them) it's not functioning as a Neapolitan 6 where it moves to V7. Several are more like a tritone substitution without the dominant 7. And a few even feature the dominant 7 like in Hyrule Castle before it loops, or the Link Memory 12. Love that you studied music! Mine is bachelor's in Music Education but I spent all my time listening to music that I liked instead of the coursework and saxophone lessons 🤣
All of the ALTTP references are things I’ve been musing on for months now while replaying it after finishing TOTK - it gets used so frequently across the board!! My favorite game/soundtrack 🥰
Haha that's the goal! Make it easy to continue watching. Music theory can be so dry. I want to make sure every viewer can kinda "get it." But it's pretty time consuming. Maybe 60 hours of editing on this one. That's like more than I played TOTK 😬
I don't think I've ever subscribed to a creator so fast and that's coming from a drummer. 😂 You've beautifully combined two of my favorite things, Zelda and music theory, in a really interesting and compelling way. I might even forgive you for saying I'm not a musician... maybe.
So what’s even more brilliant about this 54b3b21 thing that I didn’t have time to get into, is that you first hear it as 1 b7 1 b7, the 1 b7 b6… but when it gets to b5 4 your brain goes, “Oh I guess we are in a different key,” so it relabels as 54b3b21. And the 1 b7 b6 is the most Zelda-y chord progression ever. So it ties into the amazing Zelda chords. The Kokiri forest opening goes 5 b6, 5 b6 b7… 1. So those same chords. I covered that briefly in my “House Theme” video, but I have a whole video pending on the Zelda chords.
As a kid I beat lylat wars (the UK name for Star Fox 64) so many times that by the time I finished OoT you bet your ass I recognized the link between those two finale themes and felt cool as hell for doing so. I never noticed it in any of your other examples directly, though I did get a familiar feeling which I now understand. Koji Kondo has created music I've been carrying within me literally decades. No wonder I loved tears of the kingdom so much, it felt like a massive love letter to Ocarina of Time because it WAS. And others, of course, but no other game in my whole history of gaming has made me feel like an 8yo again, this game managed to do so, and continues to do so even a year on. I'm so grateful to you for making these videos and showing me proof of what I already felt inside must be true ❤
This is beautiful. Thank you for this video. THIS is The Legend of Zelda, and why i love it so much! The story that all of this music tells is the story that the Zelda series tells as a whole. Awesome job with this. Also, was thay a MatPat reference at the end?
Koji Kondo and many other musical talents at Nintendo are just geniuses at how they compose music. I think it is just amazing how a simple theme written overnight has had so many hidden references in so many different ways over 35+ years, it just really blows my mind.
I think it’s beautiful that the TotK composers reference Kondo so deeply but subtly!!!
It's weird that the best songs from Kondo started with three notes repeated - Zelda's Lullaby, Epona's Song, Saria's Song, etc.
I wish I could have an eighth of his brilliance. It would make me half decent at music lok
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@@hanburgundy4317song of storms, song of time
Percussionists are gonna have your head for that Hestu joke.
Hestu when you are “nekky nekky” 💀
I'm a percussionist. Still pretty funny though
5:24 that section about the Morse code messages f’ed me up. I was flabbergasted for at least 2 minutes
A cool detail about the S.O.S signals is that each appears later in their respective theme to signify how long it took each Champion to call for help. Mipha’s appears first, seeing as she’s a healer not a fighter. Next is Urbosa and Daruk. Then finally Revali, who waited the longest out of being a cocky moron, but his plays the most frantically.
Don't call a champion a moron for being tenacious and brave in that situation. It's not like giving up was an option.
All of these characters matter to some players. Don't kick them while they're down.
@@AltairLeviosaThey are not real people calm down
People connect with stories, that's the point. Isn't that why you wrote your comment on a Zelda video in the first place? Also the point i was trying to make was that even if you don't respect the character, at least have some respect for fellow players. Hating on Revali has become so normalised that it's difficult for players who connected with his story to have a civil discussion with others. That is unfortunate for real people and not how the game was intended to affect the community. This video delves a bit into how depressing the story can be already, which is an experience all players share.
I was simply gently nudging to be a little mindful and refrain from insulting things that real people who watch this video care about, so no one feels excluded from the discussion. Shouldn't be much to ask. We don't have to make a thing out of it.
@@AltairLeviosaRight. But he was being objectively stupid, he was flying above the kingdom, he saw what the calamity was doing from a bird’s eye view, he should have realised “Oh no, i’m in danger, i need reinforcements” and sent out the SOS ASAP, but he didn’t because he was like “Nah, I can take him”
@@Stusheep Stupid is not the word. Revali's main trait is being prideful, to the point of it being detrimental.
He is one the best Rito warriors in the last thousands of years, and one the best warrior in whole of Hyrule before the Calamity --and he knows it.
And from everyone's point of view, the Calamity shouldn't even have been a problem. There were thousands of guardians ready to destroy Ganon, 4 mech mastodontes ready to obliterate him, and the best warriors in the world.
When he saw the Calamity appear, he felt confident --as everyone did-- that they would defeat it.
But when he realized otherwise, it was too late. So he stood his ground, he decided to go the best way a warrior could: fighting to its end to protect his people.
Assuming some theories about how atrocious the Blights were to the Champions, it's fair to say the latter were downright tortured to their death.
The fact that Revali held out his cries for hope the longest shows how important his pride was.
*He didn't want others to die like he did.*
He even dropped all of his pride to warn Link of how dangerous the Wind Blight is (granted, the in-game experience isn't that overwhelming).
Revali wasn't stupid.
Your videos never fail to blow my mind about a series that as a lifelong fan I thought I knew everything about
This was the first comment I read after posting and it made my day. 😁 That's the goal, find stuff nobody talks about and shine light on it. It's crazy to say this, but the music of Zelda and Koji Kondo are... UNDERRATED. Which is insane because they are already held in such high regard. And yet there is still so much that goes unnoticed.
I love how the melody during Ganondorf's Transformation 13:24 is like a corrupt version of the King Hyrule Theme.
Another example that people might have pointed out already is the game over jingle in BotW- it is a fancy b2 chord if we’re in c minor, the key of the main theme.
Oh wow I didn't notice that one. Very nice catch! I love how a ton of these have a major 7 and sharp 11. I kept this video light on the music theory because it's so advanced.
@@ZeldaMusicTheory yeah I love those 7 sharp 11 chords! such a vibe.
I had never noticed it was a slow version of Ganondorf theme when beating a boss in OOT I cannot believe it. OOT is literally the first video game I have ever played a couple of decades ago ahah
I discovered this about 2 months ago and was absolutely blown away. This video was actually exactly the order in which I heard all these. First champions, then divine beasts, main theme, Hyrule Castle theme, then Kass's theme. Then I realized the Z1 theme, and started looking at Ganon's themes. And then in Ocarina of Time heard the Boss Defeated (and I think someone left a comment saying it was referenced in TOTK Ganon Transformation), and I noticed it's in the same key! Absolutely incredible. And then at the end heard all the 54b3b21 chord progressions. Sick.
@@ZeldaMusicTheory thank you to have shared the process of discovering this with us it's very interesting!
I love theorizing about Zelda so much, but having no knowledge of music I feel like I'm missing out on so much! I just think "oh, that's the ganondorf theme" or "oh, zelda's lullaby"..
Thank you for sharing with us what you can see.
The musical callbacks to ALttP in even the most subtle ways really show how central to the series‘ identity it is. It is the original gameplay formula perfected, offering exploration as well as complex dungeon design.
Your observations just hammered that home for me once again. Thank you so much for sharing your amazing insight as always!
The fact that you pretty much proved a new OOT theory after all this time is absolutely incredible! This is truly amazing work! Thank you for your contributions!
Holy hell Koji Kondo. I never would have imagined the man has been this consistent in using the same tools to essantially tell a concise narrative about the fight between good and evil all throughout the history of this series. What a man.
6:45 "drummers aren't musicians" 😂😂 that killed me
So unexpected yet a perfectly timed joke 😂
I had so much fun with that one. Super offensive but funny enough where even the drummers have to laugh. 😆
Drummers just like hitting things
lmao
I never caught virtually any of these references despite playing almost every Zelda game and listening to the music often. Incredible!!
That final ending scene in OoT never fails to make me tear up a little whenever I replay it lol. I love and respect the research you do for these videos, man. Keep up the great work!
Thanks so much! Hey I know you, you were in the video (Thank you to my Patrons) 😁🙏🏼🎉🎊
Some ppl grow up hearing a lot of Bach, or the Stones, or whatever. I grew up hearing a lot of Zelda music, so it's kinda the basis of whatever "ear" I have in music, which is not a very good one. Like, I can't hear a chord progression in one piece and then in another piece and find a relationship, unless it's in both the same key and time, or there are other very strong contextual connections. The way you explain these by overlaying one track over another, or playing one over another, MAKES ME HEAR IT. The music of my own childhood. Things I never knew about it and would never be able to hear if you only played them one after another or just talked about them. Thank you for your choice to do this! (This is exactly where 8-bit Music Theory has gone wrong for me, though I love him anyway - he's talking over my head.) Liked, subbed. Also you are hot.
I knew that hyrule castle and the main theme shared the same chord progression, but holy heck they use the bII chord so many times lol
Awesome video
I even cut 2-3 examples of that chord progression (2 memories, Grooseland, Vah Rudania). And a lot of bII in other Zelda games. Just too much for one video lol.
Fascinating how the strings of music tie the whole series together. Yiu have helped connect the dots of Zelda joy across three decades.
This is Glitterberri levels of dedication (with all that implies). Random internet nobody here so take this for what it's worth, but you had a cut every threeish seconds and it almost encroached on the enjoyability of the video. Obviously the content of the video was beyond my ability to praise adequately, the work you put into these videos is impressive and certainly pays off. Thank you.
Thank you so much! Fewer video cuts would certainly make my life easier editing 😅 I try really hard to make it as additively engaging as possible. But maybe a few fewer cuts would actually help. My wife told me in one of my first videos that it made her dizzy because I cut so many times in such a small span. 😬 Maybe B roll footage instead of so many cuts. Always refining and improving. And you're not a random internet nobody, you're a valuable ZMT viewer whose input will always be considered 🙏🏼 Have an amazing day.
@@ZeldaMusicTheory LOVE the video and I'm excited to see more of your channel, just sub'd today! I wanted to thank you for taking this feedback seriously, as something I experience (I am autistic) with rapid cuts in video is visual overstimulation. It would be a lot easier for me to process information with a little less frequent cuts as well, so just sharing my two cents in case it's helpful. :) I also recognize that shortform content has increased the prevalence of rapid changes in visual media overall, so I understand it is a balance!
Honestly I'm just trusting you with these connections, I can't really hear the similarity of these. This video was so interesting, thank you so much! Keep up the good work!
BoTW is a deceptively dark and moody game. Everything ties together to make Hyrule feel like a large-scale graveyard, and every monument is a tombstone of their creators / dwellers. As someone with no musical experience I LOVE seeing how it integrates with that mood. Great video.
The way the main song is played it's like it's weeping in desperation during certain parts you can hear the emotions being played it's absolutely outstanding. In-between loz, monster hunter, and studio Ghibli I've never seen any other music writers able to express emotions through instruments so perfectly!!!
Omg the "drummers aren't musicians" 😂
The nostalgia you evoke in these references is just unreal. I sit here like 😮 cause I remember the music of ALTTP and OoT like I just played them and the revelation of these references just makes me want to play BotW and TotK with the volume up. I feel like I missed so much. 😂 I have listened to the soundtracks in their entirety but it isn't the complete experience. To me THAT is what the chord is truly about. That intricate layer that evokes the senses for a specific region, character, and moment from game to game. Pure genius! Great video, Kevin!
Finally a new video! 🎉❤
Edit: Oh speaking of Urbosa: her theme is a derivation of the Twilight Princess Sanctuary theme!
So basically the zelda formula tends to be gripping exactly because it makes games about grief, loss, and a spiritual restoration from states of dispair
Every time I hear Kass's theme I get chills. I don't know what it is, it's just so nostalgic
Zelda music is a huge motivation for me as a novice piano player, and your videos are such a treasure trove as I learn music theory. Thank you 🙏❤
That temple of time riff gets me goosebumps every time 🤩🤩🤩
your effort, knowledge, and passion have no limits. thank you so much for this
You're the Jacob Collier of Zelda music. 😂 I'm in awe of your talent! Thanks for helping us hear the hidden things in Zelda music.
Such a great video man. I love this kind of thing, even if some of the music theory goes over my head
Never fails to drop an absolute masterpiece of a video each time. Keep up the great work man, I look forward to each upload.
Kass is best bird boy, and I'm glad he's getting his due!
The song that plays when the champions fire their Divine Beasts at Calamity Ganon is the same that plays when the moon is destroyed in Majora's Mask or at least, the start of it. Just something I'd thought you would like.
I can't take credit for this. It was actually Zeltik who figured this out.
Yeah, I’m undecided on that one. There is some validity to it, but not 100% sure if it was intentional. And that’s the exact type of thing I always want to know, so ty for sharing it.
I absolutely love hearing more theories about Zelda music. I love music too, so it’s amazing to see someone like you using your talents to make sense of all the music in the Zelda games. That last part gave me chills
Truly amazing! I am a die-hard LOZ fan and musician. I've been sitting over here collecting flies this whole video from my mouth hanging open because I never put any of this together!! I am so glad that I found your channel. Subscriber for LIFE!
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You are so passionate about Zelda music. Thank you for sharing your passion with the rest of us. I have been playing Zelda games for over 30 years, and I have had more appreciation for the references of the Zelda music themes since I started watching your channel. Thanks again.
Let’s gooo. You’re my target audience 🙏🏽
This might be the most incredible, insightful Zelda music analysis video I've ever seen. Well done, superb job!
Thank you so much! I spent a LOT of time on it lol
I can tell! Every time I thought it was done, the flat 2 iceberg just kept getting deeper! I'd daresay the "bII" chord also qualifies for being called "the Zelda chord" at this point.
After thinking about it, I thought I've heard another example of this phenomenon in the final trailer for Tears of the Kingdom, at that moment when the game title appears. It definitely moves from the one chord up to the flat 2, but listening to the whole chord harmonically, I think it might technically be a minor 7 chord in first inversion. But it's still got that "bII" in the bass!
@@ianlarsen3920 Nice! It's all over the place. I had more Zelda examples I had to cut there were so many.
Dude, you are AMAZING! I love your videos so much. Your musical insight is awesome. Much love❤❤❤
Glad to see your content back. I’ll never tire of these.
The part about Ravel’s Bolero left me shooketh. Holy craaap.
I was in shock when you brought up inside vah medoh. It’s one of my favorite tracks.
Edit: AGAIN WITH HYRULE CASTLE AND MEMORY. these are my favorite tracks. My only complaint is how short these themes are. 9:16
Love the videos man! Not a music theorist myself but love Zelda music and playing the piano. I catch quite a lot of references but your videos make me realize just how much I miss, and it’s incredible. Keep up the great work!
16:09 it could also be a reference to the end of Boléro's B theme, which ends with a IV, bIII, bII, I run
Uh oh, new favorite channel alert 😄 What an awesome analysis and video!
Insane! The Ganondorf theme matching OOT is so obvious. I heard/realised it in your vid just before you revealed but not sure if I ever noticed while I was playing. So cool! Love your videos so much!
Hahaha I always give like 3-4 seconds for your brain to process before I slam in a reference. My hope is that viewers go, “Wait wait, isn’t that…” Reference hits “Yes!!!” 🤣
Just found your channel. I play a lot of OOT randomizers. I was randomizing custom music recently, but I might just have to switch back to all vanilla music. New love and appreciation for all these scores, now.
Genuinely one of the best videos I think you’ve ever made, and that’s saying something.
You really gave me goosebumps at some moments.
As someone who’s never played OoT but has played BotW, in that scene with Navi the chords definitely made me feel like it was the “evil” chord coming to an end. It’s so beautiful that it’s used when the champions help against the boss fight when their purpose is fulfilled, and for Zelda who is destined to defeat Calamity Ganon.
Awesome video, so glad you made one about the chord like you hinted at! I love this kinda stuff
10:59 and thats my cue to leave, so I'll try to boost the video for the algorithm by commenting
Kass is secretly the main character.
you are a great addition to my journey of learning to play these songs on guitar. this inside gives my music way more authenticity
As a lifelong Zelda fan, and as someone who loves music and music theory, this channel was an absolute treasure to find. Thank you for making videos.
Welcome, you’ll fit right in. 😃
Great video, sorry I was late in commenting as I had been hoping for this one ever since you started the channel! You put a lot of work into finding all the references, it is mind boggling how many references there are to previous games. I still find it insane that BoTW theme backwards is ToTK’s theme, and Zelda’s lullaby backwards is Skyward Sword’s theme.
To me, all the desert themes (be it places, bosses, dungeons, etc) always sound amazing in the LoZ franchise.
BUT THATS JUST A THEORY! A GAME THEORY!
17:35 leaving the root chord out at the end of the first piece, but letting it happen as the last chord in the work is a concept I got introduced to by Dream Theater. If you listen to their concept album Octavarium, you'll hear it happen. (They even call one part of a song Full Circle, iirc)
sooooo cool this video gave me goosebumps over and over i've really been itching for a good zelda music theory video and this one has really done it for me!! thanks for creating such a cool video
You got it! More to come, just slowly but surely.
In every divine beast song there is morse code for SOS
This is why I am subbed to you!! Another great banger!!
I love your channel, and i love your videos! The music of tloz is honestly super nice and calm to listen to, and this makes it 100x better. Thanks for the content.
Wow. Loved this video and share your passion for Zelda music
I always got hung up when I was little that the star fox 64 credits and OOT credits sounded so similar.
The work you are doing with this videos is really amazing!!
Thank you so much! I’m just glad somebody is finally listening 🤣 I’ve been needing out on this stuff for 2 decades just to myself
This video got crazier and crazier, great work!
A reminder to myself to watch starting at 11:00 after completed Tears of the Kingdom.
Your videos are always awesome. Love the Zelda music and it is so much more important than people realize in the games.
Huh, I just wanted to relax watching a video in bed before sleeping. I ended up getting chills, crying, and thinking about things I'm going to tell my therapist on wednesday. Dude, I have a degree in art and studied a little bit of music, but I can NEVER understand the Bs and Gs and stuff. But while you were talking about those things I just FELT everything. I'm very sensible and emotional about zelda, and zelda's music always sound so cohesive to me, everything seems so much like a unity, that sometimes (even knowing where the song is from) they all feel the """"same"""". Now I understand why. This franchise never cease to amaze me.
Wow thank you for that experience. Great video!!
Incredible channel, love your stuff, keep it up!
You have got to be kidding me.
NO. WAY. HOW DID THEY. WHAT? THATS SO WILD. BUT. HOW?!
I absolutely love your analysis…this makes me appreciate so much more the depth and beauty of the Legend of Zelda. Never fails to move me…and to inspire me to fight the darkness with light ⚔️😊
I think there's a few more connections here with Link to the Past, not just in the Ganon fight, but the end credits, and the opening intro music during the story cutscene
16:03 The "III, bII, I" progression was also made reference during the ending of Skyward Sword.
And just like Ocarina of Time, it plays when you leave the Master Sword at its pedestal.
It's called Beginning's End Theme, just listen at 0:43 (in the same key as well):
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Oh nice. Yeah the last 4 chords in that theme are I major, then II Dom 7 in 3rd inversion (Which those two chords alone are what makes up the first 4 bars of Zelda's Lullaby...) then the bII, back to I. Nice.
I have a deep love of music and a deeper love of Zelda I love your channel so much I basically found it on accident because of my love of Zelda
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I never get tired of saying it, this channel is a gem. Thank u so much. I'm so happy that you're back
You should analyze xeno series too.
Great video! I thought I was good at catching these Easter eggs, but there are plenty here that I never knew about!
Why did that Navi part at the end remind me of The Peanuts?
The crazy thing is the rito village theme was taken from wind waker yet still fits the motif!
At 16:07 the Two chords played sound like the same two played in the beginning of Kokiri Forest Theme too.
Yooooo! One of my favorite characters as well as one of my favorite themes. This video is going to be such a banger
Easiest sub of my life! This is such an epic video
Hahaha let’s goooo
Aaaaa I love these videos so much! 😁🎶
Fun Fact : Ganons four chord theme is also at the tail end of the doctor who theme variation and represents the danger and mystery of the time vortex. :)
I just love this guy‘s videos.
BII can definitely evoke different moods based on context. It’s used in “She Was Like A Sunflower” in Mother 3, for instance.
Also, the bII can be a Neapolitan chord, but I don’t recall what the harmonic context is exactly.
You somehow made Kass one of the most important side characters and now I'm even more mad he's not in TOTK
"Hey! Listen!"
I'm listening.
And watching even.
After watching: This was amazing, plain and simple. Figuring all of this out is amazing, but having all these references in a franchise that's close to 40 years old is amazing, too. I don't know why, but I even teared up a few times. Well, to be fair, the theme from the memory of Zelda finally unlocking her powers does seem to get me.
As for the darkness of BotW, if pre-TotK discourse is anything to go by, it seems many people see darkness only if it's also dark in atmosphere. BotW is basically a post-apocalyptic setting, ruins have been overtaken by nature, the people have tried to move on in those 100 years since, but I guess it's too colourful for people to notice the underlying darkness of the heroes having lost once. BotW is a story of regret.
It's a good thing they didn't get permission to use Bolero, because it created one of the most iconic themes in video games.
ok not to brag here but i finished my arct music theory so this video is absolutely blowing my mind. also, the flat II chord (bII) is also called the neapolitan chord and can be found very commonly as bII6 or N6
100%, but in these examples (most of them) it's not functioning as a Neapolitan 6 where it moves to V7. Several are more like a tritone substitution without the dominant 7. And a few even feature the dominant 7 like in Hyrule Castle before it loops, or the Link Memory 12. Love that you studied music! Mine is bachelor's in Music Education but I spent all my time listening to music that I liked instead of the coursework and saxophone lessons 🤣
All of the ALTTP references are things I’ve been musing on for months now while replaying it after finishing TOTK - it gets used so frequently across the board!! My favorite game/soundtrack 🥰
What a great topic! Great graphics; illustration of the chords is great, it’s like a lecturer pointing on a whiteboard
Haha that's the goal! Make it easy to continue watching. Music theory can be so dry. I want to make sure every viewer can kinda "get it." But it's pretty time consuming. Maybe 60 hours of editing on this one. That's like more than I played TOTK 😬
I don't think I've ever subscribed to a creator so fast and that's coming from a drummer. 😂 You've beautifully combined two of my favorite things, Zelda and music theory, in a really interesting and compelling way. I might even forgive you for saying I'm not a musician... maybe.
Hahaha sorry about that! You guys get too much criticism. Then we all need you to gig 😂
Also the OoT Kokiri Forest theme fits in there too. Listen to how it starts when you tirst leave Link's house
So what’s even more brilliant about this 54b3b21 thing that I didn’t have time to get into, is that you first hear it as 1 b7 1 b7, the 1 b7 b6… but when it gets to b5 4 your brain goes, “Oh I guess we are in a different key,” so it relabels as 54b3b21. And the 1 b7 b6 is the most Zelda-y chord progression ever. So it ties into the amazing Zelda chords. The Kokiri forest opening goes 5 b6, 5 b6 b7… 1. So those same chords. I covered that briefly in my “House Theme” video, but I have a whole video pending on the Zelda chords.
I am fully convinced that everyone who has ever made nusic for the Zelda games are total geniuses!
0:16 did you just call my man Kass a side character!?
#JusticeForKass
Love your videos, bro. I really need a video fully dedicated entirely to BOTW Hyrule Castle.
That’s not a bad idea, there are so many references and things going on.
As a kid I beat lylat wars (the UK name for Star Fox 64) so many times that by the time I finished OoT you bet your ass I recognized the link between those two finale themes and felt cool as hell for doing so. I never noticed it in any of your other examples directly, though I did get a familiar feeling which I now understand. Koji Kondo has created music I've been carrying within me literally decades. No wonder I loved tears of the kingdom so much, it felt like a massive love letter to Ocarina of Time because it WAS. And others, of course, but no other game in my whole history of gaming has made me feel like an 8yo again, this game managed to do so, and continues to do so even a year on. I'm so grateful to you for making these videos and showing me proof of what I already felt inside must be true ❤
Yeah exactly, OoT is by far my most influential music from a game. So those references always hit harder for me (and probably for most).
This is beautiful. Thank you for this video. THIS is The Legend of Zelda, and why i love it so much! The story that all of this music tells is the story that the Zelda series tells as a whole. Awesome job with this.
Also, was thay a MatPat reference at the end?
Yes 👏
Missed your video uploads buddy!!!
This is insane. The people who wrote and still write Zelda music are absolute wizards.