Conquering the Chat App World with Discord
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I use Discord everyday and thought it would be interesting to talk through the company’s history and why I think Jason Citron is such an awesome entrepreneur. Hope you like it!
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I am the co-founder of soylent.com and lucy.co, both of which were funded by Y Combinator (Summer 2012 and Winter 2018).
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When I was 14, my friends and I were all using Skype to play League, and it boggled my mind there wasn't something better. I definitely expected something like Discord was only a matter of time, and we were so happy to start using it the moment we found out about it. Still use it almost everyday, about 6 years later.
The product was desperately needed, and with the insane growth of the creator economy we see today, the importance of community building will only increase. Discord is still perfectly positioned to fulfill that need!
Great video John!
Yep, I remember using Ventrilo to play Counter-Strike, so many good times, but yeah, so many errors.
@@JohnCooganPlus I used teamspeak but it was not as smooth as discord!
There's a little something called IRC that discord copied from.......
Why did no one use that for gaming
@@zhongxina728 maybe discord was more business smart
Did it just do a lot of little things better than Skype? Or was it because it was “built for gaming” (good niche marketing)
Wow, I had no idea about the discord founder's background! I love your point about how building something people want is permissionless!
For sure, that’s a big part of the reason I moved to Silicon Valley in the first place. I didn’t study CS in college and didn’t go to an Ivy League school so I probably couldn’t have just waltzed into Google. Best decision ever IMO.
@@JohnCooganPlus Yeah I think Naval would agree that was a great decision too. I took the opposite route of going to Ivy League then Google, but in NYC, and the perspective I think is quite different. I often wonder what the counterfactual of moving to SV would have produced.
@@CharlesWeill the good thing is that it’s never too late to start a company. David Duffield was 64 when he started WorkDay and the company is worth $60 billion dollars now! The idea that you have to start a company straight out of college (or drop out) is a complete myth and has been quantitatively disproven.
I believe there is actually one key factor that got completely left out. Every person I know that switched from teamspeak to discord did so because it's free. Sure it is not the the highest on the list but when it comes to building things, especially things like communities that are constantly changing, cost to try something new is a huge road block. The quality of discord is far higher than their competitors and they made it free, if it hadn't been free, it would have never made it to where it is now, even with the far better quality.
the moment discord can be used on console more easily it will absolutely dominate.
The steam deck will kill console use xD
@@deusxyz doubtful, consoles esp xbox are just too easy to use, i think if anything its going to make people people move to pc sooner
@@LikelyLagging That's why the steam deck exists, not just great form factor per power, but it's designed for non pc users :)
@@deusxyz People still want to game on their OLED TV's in the living room. The Deck isn't really suited to play on high resolution TV's and expect high graphical fidelity compared to current gen dedicated consoles. And people still love their physical game copies. PC gamers kind of have it rough as far as choice is concerned for physical (optical) storage.
@@Tantive People still like physical books too, but it is much more niche. And the deck can play games on an OLED. Of course theres always better (4k), but if you consider price point...
0:45 "jason is super humble"
json: our product is 10x better than anyone else
lol
For me personally, I got into discord because I was playing a game and my clan asked me to join their discord. It’s also very simply to use, never glitches and you could join so many different communities without any problems.
Before discord I used Skype and Line which both seemed okay at the time but once I found discord the other two just seem so bad.
I met the love of my life through Discord. If the app didn't exist, I'd be miserable train wreck rn
Great video! Although I think you misread the data at 3:54 . Yes, a Third of all founders come from low ranking universities but that's 99% of all universities (if 10.000 where ranked). To me it seems like students from the top 10 universities have a WAY bigger chance of becoming a founder as a third of all founders come from these 10 schools.
Yeah, definitely true that a disproportionately large amount of successful founders come from top universities. That stat is just to point out that unicorn founders do come from both high and low ranked schools. And they come from lower ranked schools more often than most people think.
And here you both proove how senseless datagraphics really are. It's to easy to let the data fit your narrative.
John, you are killing it with these videos. Im binge watching your videos one after another and then cycling back to rewatch. I will be rewatching these again because Im not making notes at the moment. Keep at it & best wishes.
Really fascinating to know about discord . I always felt like discord was made by the people who loved games like me and many others but I think is one of key factors of discord also they don't forget the core audience . But iam not the biggest fan of the new discord logo
Yeah, Jason is great at putting gamers first at all times.
Great video as always John keep it up!
I’m curious how to know how Discord monetizes their service? (I know there’s Nitro but I don’t think that makes enough to support the whole company)
He's in bed with the game devs probably... give them the first scoop of whats-what and they get a leg-up against the competition (ppl say they love Warzone or something, make a carbon-copy competitor--ppl say they h8 it, make something tangential/opposite/improved).
Keep in mind the service is FREE. This means You are the product, yes... YOU! Paying for the perks is akin to paying for Reddit Gold or something similar. It is just a way to show support, even though the service is still free to use plainly, anyhow.
Discord is the tool you use to sell 'info'. Maybe not really information about you, but w/ even ~100mil semi-active users, it is equivalent to casting votes for a medium size nation that doesn't really exist (we are talking a Japan/Mexico/Russia sized population). They see it all on the other end. Everything!
It's actually mainly the so-called "silicon valley startup model". By being able to constantly show investors your company is growing, they will keep investing. Obviously this can't go on forever and the growth will plateau. We are already seeing signs that they are in the process of this happening by them introducing, removing or changing things in a way that could indicate a more sustainable model without huge investments coming in regularly, but time will tell exactly how they will manage. They will then indeed have to make *you* the product (even more than they might already) or they will have even more options or features behind a paywall.
@@vif3182 Discord doesn’t actually sell your data, written in their Privacy Policy. I just hope they keep it that way…
@@paradox9265 lol
Why do you think they are so desperate to get people to buy Nitro?
Jason is one of the most brilliant young man I’ve ever had the privilege of working with. When he was in Full Sail, he along with his team created a video game based on my second feature film Insanity. I knew he was always headed for greatness. Not only is he brilliant, but he’s also a great leader. I can’t say enough about how kind hearted he really is. I am overjoy with all his success.
Summary:
* have a core-competency (his was game design and programming)
* relentless builder
* test your business model (be a master of prototyping)
this channel is gold. Happy to discover it
Discord was just ahead of its time. It pioneered many ideas.
I love those underdog hacker type inspirational stories! Makes me want to start a new business haha
The founders statistic is kind of dumb
Top 1-10 Universities is 35% of founders meaning 3.5% per university...
Top 11-100 Universities is 30% so 0.333% per university
100+ is 35% but the pool contains 1000s of universities so it is very small fraction of the previous 2 per universities
So yeah the top 10 universities produce a lot of the founders... the comparison only looks equal because your including so many more universities in the pool.
More universities = more chances the pool will produce a founder...
I was going to write this. You are very right.
At the same time the top 100 universities have a much larger student population
Per university whereas the rest have smaller campuses
@@KManAbout Maybe, average population per university is larger. But still among the pool of 1000s of universities there are more than 100 universities that surpass the size of the top 100 universities average student pool. And then you add to that all the other universities. So even if that point is true, it just not that useful or insightful
@@tj8870 I actually don't know if this is true it might be that 30%-40% of graduates come from the top 100. Keep in mind this just the top hundred American not world wide.
Motivational without even trying. Definitely top 5 tubers in the space.
Thanks Raim! Appreciate that!
The body language is so sassy, I felt like I should have already known this , 😄 haha , great video
Your channel is a goldmine 🖤🖤
Thanks a lot!
What is the background music? Also unsurprisingly great video, thanks John.
Everything is from Epidemic Sound or Artlist. There are a bunch of tracks used here. I typically search for electronic or classical music and then try and pair with the mood.
Your content is really amazing, please continue!
I try and put out new videos every week! Been a lot of fun, no plans to stop!
@@JohnCooganPlus awesome, looking forward to it
I've been actually finding a lot of good tubers out there. This channel is certified gold IMO. From the concept and everything. You earned my sub!
This channel is so so great. Keep it up!!
Thanks, will do!
Great video. People have been sleeping on Discord for 7 years.
Switched from your Slack video and whatever you used for your mic in the Slack video is MILES better. Love your stuff though man, great story telling. Glad I stumbled across your channel
Am I the only one who finds Discord overwhelming? I think I join ones that are incredibly busy and I'm not a big gamer so I end up barely using it. Still it was interesting to hear about it's origins.
100%. The key to Discord is to disable all notifications as soon as you join a server. I'll join a server and then mute it, and suppress all @mentions (including @everyone and @here). Then I just check the channels when I'm interested and have free time. You can leave notifications on if you're in a server with like 5 friends. If it's a big community, you have to disable everything or it will be too crazy.
@@JohnCooganPlus Haha, I do the same thing John. All the servers I'm in have over a 1000 members. It gets overwhelming fast.
@@prakash_77 yeah, Dunbar’s number is pretty useful. I feel like a server with 150 active members can actually feel like a community. People recognize each other’s handles and inside jokes develop. 1000+ members feels like a torrent of information you can just dip your toe in if you need to ask a question or something.
Great solution to a problem that needed fixing
Your videos really are helpful to me. I am just a 15 year old coder who has a dream to become an entrepreneur
A video about Clubhouse will be highly appreciated, man! Thanks for the content.
Rip clubhouse lol
Holy foudge! This is the third video in the row from the same channel, and this was in the recommended. Yes, it's really the topic I am interested in but I don't want to binge watch videos ^^'
I'll have to stop here but I'll come back!
I don't even use discord for gaming. I use it to talk to online friends and share art.
Nice video, I can definitely see some inspiration from James Jani's editing style here. Love the 'F' for an ousted founder part haha
That’s a huge compliment. James is the goat editor on here.
Unique perspective about building a start-up and community building. Thanks for sharing
Great video John! Really enjoyed learning about the background info for such an amazing platform!
Thanks a lot! Glad you enjoyed it!
It was a hit in the nail sometimes things just work out and you end up becoming rich.
your content is great. keep at it
liked and subbed :) this channel has great potential. keep it up bro
just read your description, and yeah you have already found some of your potential haha
Thanks for the sub!
Take a drink every time he says, ‘Jason’. 😆
Love your videos man! Fantastic as always! Is anyone else distracted by too much movement or hand gestures though?
I really love your channel!
keep posting!! I'm in Asia and loving your content.
Great video seems like a kinda of video to have 10 million views. Surprise it didn’t, I’m subbing
New subscriber here, I found you while looking up Palmer Luckey and what was going on with him lately. Now I'm binge watching pretty much every video you have up. Great channel and great content, so keep up the good work.
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(last line should be "like me* to elaborate")
Glad you’re enjoying the channel! I’m really focusing on making it bingeable for new subscribers, so good to hear that. Haven’t heard much about those companies so would love to chat more, DM me on Twitter @johncoogan or email me via the email in my account’s about tab.
@@JohnCooganPlus DM'ed and looking forward to continuing the conversation on Twitter!
the cord is goated
I love using discord💯, but here in Malaysia it is still not popular (at least around my friends)
Should have mentioned the secret service funding they recieved (and connections they have to NSA ect).
Great video John, you're a very talented communicator.
This is my definition of a self made billionaire. Imo.
Discord could be a great alternative to Zoom or Google Meet for online classes! Too bad that boomers overlook Discord
I wouldn't normally comment with this account, but as someone who is close to a community of older (65+) people, Discord would be far too complex for them. If I had my way, we'd all be on Discord.
Another brilliant video, thanks John.
Thanks for another great video.
Just found this channel...
All the best 🌹
Thank you for the content!
Cool username tbh
Your vids are great 👍🏼
As a parent I hate Discord. It’s caused so many arguments between my 13 year old son and me. I don’t let him use it because it effectively has no parental controls. I know there are people that would say you should trust your kid. Well, I trust with limits but there are no limits with Discord. My router can for the most part block the age inappropriate content on the web but Discord is the cheat code to the worst content on the internet. I understand there are good things about Discord but since I have no control over the bad things I just have to block it outright and have constant arguments about it.
I don't have any kids but I've used Discord for years. What kind of parental controls would you want, and what are you most concerned about e.g. cyberbullying, sexual content?
All the channels on Discord, that have inappropiate (NSFW) content are marked as NSFW and you get a warning that the content is indeed NSFW before you enter the channel, it`s a rule that every server has to follow to not get terminated, so this is really not the Discord`s fault. Your child can just as easily look up inappropiate content elsewhere, you have to have an honest talk with him and explain things instead.
The good thing about discord is that you can curate your experience by only joining certain servers and adding certain people as friends. This is different from like snapchat twitter ect where it goes from cat pic to risque stuff with more effort needing to be put in to block that stuff. As long as you monitor what hes doing you should be ok
Teamspeak was so bad. I remember using it once and Skype. hahaa
TeamSpeak 3 was legendary
discord creator: i just made a really good app
this guy: unacceptable, you are wrong
this channel is such a gem
Love hearing that!
@@JohnCooganPlus Favorite channel atm. Keep up the great work man!
Let's go! I want to know how story.
Which story?
@@JohnCooganPlus My bad! I mean Jason's story.
@@wenslo8514 it’s a great story. Really breaks down the idea that you need to go to a top tier university or work at Google before starting a company.
@@JohnCooganPlus Great to hear that from you!
Great video!
Great video John! You have a great way of writing stories and im always engaged 100 percent during your videos. Do you use blender to make some of those animations and your thumbnail? I love the thumbnail for this
Slack is slacking
I know Full Sail U because of their WWE Deal lol.
The only thing that disliked discord is that default pop up when power on your PC, I know its great.
Great content 🙏
I was 13 when I stopped using Skype along with my mates. We hopped onto teamspeak and stayed there untill discord came along.
to me. because the images are high quality and i draw.
why doesnt this have 1 mil+ views!
That's was really interesting
Good video.
@john at 3:30 you pointed out that the leading degree for start up ceos had a bachelors.
How does that data compare to the the type of degrees that lead to a longer-lasting company?
Whose to say those 40% with a bachelors made it past 2-5 years vs ceos who’ve made to 10+ years with a different degree?
You can use Discord Voice on Xbox now!
I’ve tried Discord and couldn’t figure out how to use the interface. Even after watching a tutorial, still didn’t understand it. ☹️
Quality element was left out. Lots of people switched to Discord because of quality, and it was also free. Good video tho.
1:25 Well I guess you could say they are...
...slacking
Discord logo is good
The volume should be higher⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️.
Did it just do a lot of little things better than Skype? Or was it a success because it was “built for gaming” (good niche marketing)
One could say 'slacking off'
I don’t use Discord. I use Guilded instead of Discord. Guilded is like Discord but better because Guilded has more features and is 100% free. Many people who use Guilded think that Guilded is better than Discord. I too think Guilded is better than Discord.
Guilded sucks. It is just a big company with unlimited funds with people who don't what they're doing they just keep copying discord and come up with barely any original designs seriously I downloaded the app once and it is just a sad excuse for a chatting app.
@@LJ-np3gc They didn't copy Discord. Sure the UI might look like Discord's but that's to help if someone wants to switch from Discord to Guilded. Guilded has features that Discord does not. There are channel types that Discord does not have. You can have unlimited emotes for your server and you can use them on other servers all for free. You can put a poll or a form into the chat. You can have your own profile feed and post stuff there and other people can be able to post stuff on your own profile if you want them to. If you don't want then to, then, you can change that in the privacy section of your settings.
The most used app for me on a daily basis is discord
its just inevitable
Why though ? How do you use it to interact ? I don't know if it's brings something more than other apps. 🤔
@@KevinPatikouHernot it brings alot more. I use it as a way to chat with friends and its really fun
Gamers will be at the forefront of
Anything innovative
But who and how did they choose that name? I personally experience its meaning in the app sometimes. 😅
😎😎
its popularized in games its still too early to conclude.
While I use Discord on regular basis and clearly it's best on the market for something that popular I have quite a few issues with it.
It's annoying to find and invite friends. You can't just look for servers, you gotta have link. Notification system is a mess. It doesn't keep history of my messages if I message someone who is not on my friend list. It's still pretty restrictive when it comes to what you can do with servers. Cool emotes locked behind Nitro. ._. Strange UI bugs when interface to close it just dissapears when I open it on top of game in windowed fullscreen mode.
Yeah, it’s for sure not perfect. It’s definitely a little weird that they haven’t nailed the general one-to-one chat angle. It’s always super hard to find people and quickly switch to personal conversations.
You can actually find servers that are public only on pc tho the others I agree
There are websites dedicated to finding specific servers, if the server owner has put them on there. Notifications can be annoying, but they are manageable, you can turn off mentions pretty easily for any of the servers or channels. It has always kept the message history for me no matter if the person is or isn`t on my friends list, unless that person himself deletes their messages, not sure what this is about. Restrictive? With all the bot options, channel settings etc. i would say there`s quite a bit you can do to your server, i myself have managed a server before. Discord is a business after all, they have to have some sort of a paywall, you cannot expect everything in a free app, to actually be free. Really the only thing i can agree on is the occasional bugs whenever i am browsing Discord and Discord sucks on mobile platform, so they have to improve it there, it`s really laggy and unresponsive on the mobile end of things.
Slack seems to be slacking
Anyone know the name of the movie in 3:06
You forgot ip. Ot tracable
Like damn fam i just want vbulletain and proboards forum communities back. Can't we have both instead of discord infinite weight gain blob tf sequence?
turn the music off please
Goodbye facebook
the question is did this man see the e-couples coming cus someone needs to stop them
People use discord even when there is in-game voice chat.
They use it for anything related to chatting
I dont use Discord because I have no use for it and I aint lying.
Change in thumbnail on this video and push this video up !!
*New follower
Stepping up the thumbnail game!
Thanks! Trying to bring some consistency to the channel finally. Feedback is always appreciated if you think a thumbnail is confusing or could be better!
@@JohnCooganPlus Maybe the thumbnail is a bit to close to ColdFusion, i thought for two days that this was a ColdFusion video lol or is that just a bit of growth-hacking? ;-)
@@hdrotciv yeah, I still need to evolve it a bit. Partly growth hack, partly just like their style.