AR15: Mud Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- This AR15 mud test was performed right after last week's AK47 test: the same exact mud, the same wheelbarrow, at the same location, a mere 10 minutes later.
Specifics on the AR:
Frankengun. BCM upper, Spike's Tactical BCG, USGI FCG, GWACS lower.
If you have not already seen the Ak47 video, you'll find it here:
• AK47 (AKM): Mud Test
We did this test again with a Vietnam era Colt SP1 here:
• Mud Test: Mattel Death...
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Mikhail Kalashnikov "I'm going to try to design a rifle that can function with dirt inside inside of it!"
Eugene Stoner "I'm just going to design a rifle that keeps the dirt out."
AR-15 isn't as unreliable as everyone thinks, AK isn't as inaccurate as everyone thinks. Fanboys need to stop spreading myths and false information. Both guns are great and will save your life in a pinch. I have both and love them equally.
3:00 movement like this is how you know the person handling the rifle is a professional.
excellent muzzle awareness.
Imagine using an M14 in Vietnam and having it jam up in the muddy rice fields only to receive the M16A1 which proceeds to function flawlessly until you realise it actually does need to be cleaned.
That mud was a paid actor!
Thanks for that mud tests. As a former russian army soldier for me it was the discovery that ar15/m16 can surpass AK in any, touching reliability. We abused our AK74s as we needed to when was in polygon, and never seen misfires, but ofcourse we didn't loaded them with such liquid manure purposely:) AK is very idiot-proof weapon, forgiving everything, allowing not to distract on maintenance too much. As for me, if i was in combat situation, i would choose AK without doubt, if i had a magic choice.
But M16 does not deserve such an attitude as to constantly misfiring piece of metal, i knew it is greatly exaggerated myth, otherwise such junk couldn't remain adopted in acting troops fo so long time.
I wish you could add frost, water and sand tests of different firearms, but i guess you have some problems with frost in your climate .
Again thanks, very informative.
So we have that myth busted too. Thank you Ian and Karl!
+Kvjavs likewise my good man
Capitalists do it better.
+Firepower United HEYYY! Its Phuc Long! \m/ When the hell is the next video man! Especially on that M1A EBR?! trời ơi, why u taka soo long, huh?! haha
+tuck234 Phuc is on vacation right now, but we've some stuff to film when he gets back. - Mgmt
***** Rad! haha. Thanks for the update!
Let go my egg roll
FUCK YEAH!!!!! AR-15 USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
You guys are very cruel. There was once a time when the AK fanboys peacefully lived in their blissful utopia of the AK firing no matter what, like they told them in movies.
Love the muzzle control awareness 👍🏻 2:59
I remember back in the late 60's watching a DOD film of a test between the M14 and M16. Both rifles were put on the ground with a full mag locked and loaded then covered with lose sandy dirt,like sticking them in a sand box.The M14 fired one round and jammed,the M16 fired off a 20 round mag in full auto.
I served as a conscript in the Greek army and was issued an M16A2. I very much liked the rifle and mine never failed, but in many other cases it did fail. I believe the most common reason (besides bent magazine lips) was SAND. Close to our main camp was a small training facility right on the beach, and we sent every week or so a group of soldiers to do sentry duty. Whenever they came back the rifles had sand in them. Even when I went there, and I was very cautious, I still couldn't keep the sand out of it. The rifle never fell on the sand directly. Only one day when we did an alarm exercise, I had to jump into a foxhole, aiming my rifle (with a magazine on) to the sea. So, even with a magazine on, sand still managed to enter the mechanism. And while I cleaned my rifle, others were less meticulous, and they would have their rifles jam at the shooting range.
Good job, guys. The Sun still orbits the Earth though, right?
+Michael Smith That depends on if you're a sun or earth fanatic and whatever mental gyrations you want to use to justify either point. ~Karl
+InRangeTV Copernicus was a false-flag operation!!
+Forgotten Weapons Right. We all know that both are a lie and we really live in a Facebookiancentric universe. ~Karl
You guys are awesome! Keep it up! I really was surprised about the results.
+Michael Smith Earth is flat, moon landing was a hoax.Jesus is real and santa too. AK can shoot thru an Abrams tank.
I'm not surprised the AR ran fine. It was designed to keep stuff out of the gun. That said it is a more maintenance intensive weapon. The AK is designed loosely so maintenance isn't nearly as critical but has more openings for stuff to get into the gun. Both have their pros and cons and both are great rifles.
People say, "That's not the real AK-47, get the right parts and the right model made from Russia." Ar-15 can use any part made from anywhere and it still works. Showing how reliable it is compared to a Ak-47. You will probably say, "Oh but the AK-47 has 7.62 round that is larger than the AR-15s 5.56 NATO round!" The AR-15 can switch to a 7.62 round and 308. round by witching the barrel and receiver already showing it can shoot faster than the AK and has a larger round. R.I.P. AK-47 & Russia 1946-1975
well, you need to remember that ak-47 is almost 70(!) years old. And Ar-15? (I dont know the right date) Is it 2015? If it is, AK-47 is 69 years older! You cant compare them in any means, take the AK-12 and then compare the two. Also, i belive, the first models of M16 were crappy as hell and the military hated them at a period.
The AR-15 was designed in the 1950s. The reason these are being compared is that many people on the internet compare the AK47 to the AR-15.
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sorry, couldnt look it up on wikipedia. still want to see an AK-12 mud test. im not sure you can actually get one tho
Ak is epic rifle with great reputation, but it old and time is run her over so you need to keep going in the future there is new AK test them this is rifle you should respect because look what can do rifle from 1944.-1946 (project start and finish), in my country we also use AK but we made simular types of rifle ,,Zastava,,
FPS SERBIA
I really do respect the AK-47s but people brag about it making it sound like it shoots a nuclear warhead.
So fucking awesome. I bet the excuses are POURING in.
First the meltdown embarrassment. Then this.
MURICA
+Zoltan Csikos the one where an AR went 800+ rounds full auto and a bunch of AK fanboys laughed at how "pathetic" that was.
Then an AK went just over 200 rounds and the excuses came a flying.
So they tried it again with an RPK (light machine gun design) that was modified and even that only went 800+ rounds. Just like a run of the mill AR.
So this whole reliability thing is simply hogwash. The AK is useful for what it is, it just doesn't live up to all of these legends.
LOLOL
boo fuckin hoo
+The Wound Channel Yeah that was awesome. And the best thing was people quessed the gas system would fail but it was the barrel, something that can happen to any gun.
And the ak warped, so it doesnt play too much a role what ak it is because its still the same assembly.
I knew the A15 with closed chamber would function well but the test with open chamber was awesome.
+Anzu Wyliei No, he is just dim witted.
+The Wound Channel I also seem to remember that the ak was fixed completely by hitting it against a tree, whereas the AR was completely failed. I'd say that says something about the reliability of the rifle. I agree that the fanboyism is ridiculous, but so are ford fans.
AK fanboys are SEETHING
darn, as an AK fanboy I have to bow my head ;).
+robin6512 One test with one rifle proves nothing. Everyone can have a lucky day. There are much more tests with AK's outperforming AR's in torture tests than the opposite.
Here's what I think happened: AR's fail mud tests when they get submerged in mud. What happens then, is that gunk enters the trigger mechanism. In this case, mud got dropped on the rifle, and by luck, not enough entered the trigger. The AR being otherwise pretty sealed didn't get affected by the rest of the mud and the rifle passed the test.
Still, I have trouble seeing why the AK failed now a test, it normally passes. Maybe this AK was too beat up. Maybe the recoil spring was too weak. Maybe the tolerances on this model were too loose and mud entered the rifle and jammed it.
+nyarlatothep666 That's a cool story. You should post your own test.
+nyarlatothep666 Pretty much everybody who has done this has established that:
A. all rifles can fail
2. the AR and AK are both generally reliable rifles
iii. The AK is, if anything, more likely to experience a dirt related stoppage.
+nyarlatothep666 i have a wink on the end. I do realise that any weapon can fail AK, AR, FAL, G3, M1. my motto is enjoy, Train and Keep 'm clean, as they once teached me in the army.
I have a wink on the end of my org reply...... I know. I have a org ak74s and an org Tantal (europe so no kit parts) and they work fine. must admit we have never tried that Kind of mud but who knows.
I am so surprised by this. Fuck yeah. Murica.
StraitClownin909 i wasnt because new gun bet the old gun
being in the army we beat the shit out of our m4s and they still function in the field; rain, sand, mud, and hundreds of rounds without any cleaning, I'm not surprised at how well that ar performed. they really are reliable weapons especially if you treat them right, I've had more issues with magazines than with the firearm itself. I am surprised by the results of the ak test but that's where the m4 has an advantage, it's better at keeping stuff out than the ak, the ak has loose fitting parts and tons of openings for sand and mud to get in, I own an ak and am on my way to building my first ar but I wouldn't be able to decide which to take to combat when it came down to it, actually I do know, I'd just take the M240L.
How about a HK G3 Mud Test?
+John Fox VS a FN FAL!
+John Fox The G3 is similar to the M16. Even without a dust-cover, the tolerances between the bolt and the receiver are very tight and would prevent stuff from entering. The opening where the charging handle slides is sealed by the extension of the bolt carrier when the bolt is forward. There are no other holes or slots on the gun.
During an exercise involving a riverbank landing with M113s I got my G3 service rifle all murky but it worked well and managed to fire 65 rounds with only a single failure to extract which unrelated to the dirtiness but more related to the gun being 22 years old (as old as I was at the time), having passed through the hands of at least as many conscripts.
+John Fox That delayed blowback system would blast mud and gunk out of the gun pretty readily. In the process it'd probably end up killing its own magazine, as that's where most the mud and debris would get blasted into. I know with mine, the majority of the soot seems to end up in the magazine.
+Tombs Clawtooth Im actually curious as to how it would do. It seems that the locking recesses may possibly get clogged pretty easy but maybe the sealed system would help prevent that.
mark shuler They're not really locking recesses, just very very shallow scallops the rollers pop out into. They will crush rocks pretty readily as the bolt mass is MASSIVE and the physical leverage on the rollers is very high.
There's a reason modern AKs look more and more like ARs.
pfft, does an Ak-107 look like an AR? Does an AN-94 _also_ look like an AR?
Where the hell did you get proof that modern AK's look like AR's anyway?
Or did you just assume that AK's are becoming AR's based on how modern AK's offer tactical options?
The only Ak-pattern Rifle I can remember that reminds me *loosely* of the AR platform is the AK-12, but it doesn't mean they're the same gun.
I'd also like to note that the HK-416, an "AR" pattern rifle, doesn't use the tried and true AR-15 "direct impingement gas system." Not all AR's are alike either.
(And lastly, before you start that bullshit AK-fanboy argument. AR-18 master race.)
Si_Vis_Pacem Para_Bellum Exactly, the only "AR" thing on an AK-12 is it's modular frame design, and fire selector switch,
I will admit AK's aren't the best gun in the world, but idiots like the guy above just _need_ to be corrected sometimes.
False. AR15 rounds leave a smaller hole in the target. If an AK is chambered in 5.56 it will perform just as well.
Reason? All assault rifle are similar. Just because they are black, and have a plastic with picatinny bar for LCC, flashlight and sight. This does not mean that it is an achievement of american weapons. AK its AK, AR its AR, German guns it's German guns. = _ =
***** HK-416 baby!
i can tell you from my experience that the ar 15 type weapons are much more desired in the middle east than the ak 47. m16s and m4s are lighter more ergonomic more accurate easier to shoot and more customizable than the ak 47 and from what i've heard lebanese army soldiers love the current issue m4 and m16a4 and never complain about reliability and i asked an officer who fought in the battle of arsal if his men ever had any problems with them and he said not at all they even admire the weapon for its range but the caliber is another story and even hezbollah fighters try to get their hands on any ar 15 type weapon they can find, they turn 20 inch guns into DMRs and the carbine length ones are used by their elite soldiers even in iraq the m4 has become very popular and very very thought afteryit shows that the ar 15 design is truly more superior and only needed more time for slight modidifications and a much more mature fan base to admire it for what it is personally if you would tell me that i can have one rifle for ever i would choose the ak for a number of reasons but if you gave me multiple options and told me to go to war with my rifle i would pick the ar
I think the "direct impigement" action also helped to push that mud off the bolt. You can see in the slow motion footage the mud flying off the bolt after you fired.
I noticed that too. Good observation.
That would be recoil doing that. Also, the AR-15 (and M16) use a form of gas piston in the BGC, and are therefore not DI.
So, the AR doesn't shit where it eats, it's gives itself a helpful blowjob. It's only stupid if it doesn't work, right?
Am I the only person that thinks both the AK47 and the M16 are great guns? I enjoy owning both semi auto and full auto versions of each. Very interesting video though!
I like it when experiments beat crappy myths and misconceptions. Excellent job.
The AR-15 was designed as a closed system for just this reason. The problem comes in when dirt, rocks and sand get inside the lower and clog up the tightly packed fire control group in the lower.
In fact I even have a poped primer once that jammed up the hammer from coming forward.
But its an easy fix, just pop the back pin, shake the lower out and you're gtg.
So glad you dispelled the fragile, unreliable "Mattel piece of junk" myth.
I only wish the mud between episodes was more consistent. Sometimes it seems there's a lot tougher and rockier mud used in some, making the gun perform even worse.
Never thought the AR-15 would have been the best rifle for Trench Warfare but it really is
The AK fan boys are going to be pissed! lol
You meant ruine? LOL
Мария Кретова we build it.
You don't actually know much about Vietnam do you?
The US didn't exactly win. But that had more to do with strategy and politics than choice in rifles.
no
Yep im sold on the ar15
I was in the US Army for just short of 8 years, and I am a firm believer in the reliability of the AR platform. There is so much misinformation out there about how unreliable they are, largely due to the initial field tests in Vietnam. I (personally) only ever experienced 1 malfunctioning rifle in my time, and it was a bad bolt cam, causing it to fire multiple rounds on a single pull. The only weapon I saw fail from dirt was due to the nastiest little shit in the Army having never cleaned his rifle after 8 months in the desert. When I inspected it it looked like somebody opened it, and threw sand in the bolt carrier group. The thing was STILL operational, although he had to jam the forward assist every couple rounds.
As to the durability, we use the butt of the rifle to cushion ourselves when dropping into prone from a run. I'd say they're durable.
They work, and they aren't going anywhere, because they work. I'd also love to see an AK reach out and touch something at 600 yards.
there's something absolutely beautiful about an AR with a fixed stock covered in mud. no idea why I feel that way.
I would just like to thank you on your safe handling practices. It's obvious your handling practices are not scripted but fluid and well learned through use.
Well this is going to piss a lot of AK guys off..
Me personally, I've always had very positive experiences with AR type rifles, whether it be my issued rifle in the CF or my personal rifles. I think it's one of the best rifles in existence, along with the AK.
To the point of AK vs AR reliability. They both have their pros and cons. Obviously as we see here the ARs closed system lets it withstand this test better than an AK.
However under normal use without being dunked in mud the AK can go longer without a cleaning because of its looser tolerances where the AR needs to have its chamber or bolt cleaned every 800-1000 rounds or so to get maximum reliability out of it.
BMC proved this wrong
grumpybill
And many people in the desert proved this very true.
+grumpybill plenty of soldiers would agree with you too i think
drtrolish and many people voted for Obama. There are many unqualified people in the world. What's your point?
grumpybill
No they are in fact the only people qualified to talk about this actually.
You are the one whose opinion I could care less about.
I also don't care what BCM says or what they tested. They sell ARs. You think their test is gonna show their product sucks ?
If you watch the Russians head to head test of an AK vs an AR you would think the AR is a piece of shit. But we all know its not.
Tests are meaningless to me when it comes to how guns perform in the field.
I want real world experience. I want to hear form those people that carried them in the field for yeas like it was their job.
Too many soldiers had complaints about the AR system in the sandbox for too many years for them all to simply be dismissed.
Especially by the likes of you or some test BCM did.
Likewise the AK is used the world over by conscript retarded army's and those things just fucking run.
Which is why many of our guys even now still pick them up and carry them around with them.
Not because they work just as good as an AR, but because they work better under certain conditions.
Despite what internet warriors want you to believe, the modern day AR15 is more reliable than most AKs, as this video series demonstrates.
It's unsurprising that a rifle that has been made with high quality materials and careful precision handles mud better than a rifle made of scrap metal by Ivan and Boris in their garage.
Fredfredbug4 sorry for replying to a week old comment but you cant make a ak in garage it is infact really fucking hard to make without industrial stamping machine(what ever the fuck is it called) it aint no sten gun but still it ak is worse than a barn built sten gun
the ak47 is 70 years old test a ak-12
the guy you don't get the point that every russian and cs:go kiddo says that the AK-47 will never jam even if it's mud/dust/sand, the AK-12 It's a different story
Fredfredbug4 the AK'S kill count tower over the ar's
Ariana Garcia that is irrelevant to any argument. He didnt say aks dont kill. He said ARs are more reliable. The reason AKs have killed more is really only due to the sheer volume of them in circulation. Which towers over the amount of m16/m4/ar guns in circulation. If the numbers were flipped we'd likely see a big flip in the numbers of kills too.
Ive seen the Ak test where it stopped instantly even with closed dustcover at the first round. I expected the Ar15 to function well with closed dust cover, but really cool to see it function this well even with open dustcover. Great sayed: "This myth was going on way too long".
The comments on this video and the way y'all are responding to them is why I'm increasing my Patreon contribution
+Wonberger Awesome! Thank you, glad to hear someone is enjoying it. :). ~Karl
this video changed my mind
Loved this video when it was released. Pretty impressive that it has now been linked to by the Army Times in an article about the failings of the NGSW. Love to see InRange’s reach grow into unexpected arenas. Keep up the great work!
Wow, neat. Thanks for telling me, just found it.
Bow and arrow next
This is what Eugene Stoner meant by “Self Cleaning”. The blowback into the chamber dislodges and empties it of foreign materials
All guns will jam when put under stress. Difference is, the AK is easier to clean and you can buy three for every one AR. That is why the AK will always be the world's greatest assault rifle.
AR doesn’t stand for Armalite Rifle…it stands for ALLLL RIGHT!
great video guys, proof the ar-15 (rifle length gas sys.) is able to survive being dropped in the mud, the ak even with the safety in safe position will still allow debris into receiver, the ar-15 does not have this problem, the ejection port is covered with a tight fitting door thus allowing no debris or mud into weapons internals. 👍👍👍
And the DI gas system proactively blows debris away from the ejection port.
Its the reason the sig spear is designed with a similar sealed off action and the reason ar 15s will never be phased out but upgraded and rechambered through the future. Lets see a type 97 pla plastic toy soldier rifle mud test
wow!!! I hate myself for continuing the myth of reliability of AK vs AR. Thank You for the video!
Watching this at 5:56 PM
Hey it's same with me. Haha!!
im watching at 12.7mm x 99
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The tears of AK fanbois is sweet.
I like AK and AR. I don't understand the competition.
I'm not sure what is going on in this comment section. People swearing off AK-47 enthusiasts as if they were second rate citizens, AR-15 Haters talking smack. What is this?
I thought we were all here because we are all weapon enthusiasts - and weapons have no loyalty or branding, they're just tools. If someone told you that using a Phillip's Head screwdriver was better than a Flathead in a muddy situation, I wouldn't expect something like this.
Look, there have been many tests to suggest that AK-47's are more rugged than AR-15s, but just because they're more rugged doesn't mean they are without faults. This is a great example of how finer, more prescience engineering can solve a problem that a "robust" piece cannot.
One of the reasons AR's even have a reputation to be more frail than the AK is because of more detail in the machinery - if sand gets in there, it's going to have problems, and be very difficult to clean out. However, an AR that is weather tight will shrug off the elements - good to know!
I guess what I'm trying to say is this:
This video doesn't change anything. Although it is very informative, and gives a bit of fresh perspective in the debate of "Rugged vs Ornate" that has evidently divided this community.
1,500 people aren’t happy that their preconceived assumptions were not reinforced.
I'm an AR fan boy so this makes me very happy.
Love to see how a Fal and G3 do in this same test.
Wow. I have to say, I'm really impressed. I was actually more surprised to see the AK do poorly than the AR do well, but both of these videos have been eye-opening. Now, truly, I MUST see how the FAL does! Any chance you can answer this? Or do I have to fly down to Arizona to meet up with you guys and put my own rifle in your wheelbarrow?
Awesome test, I can't wait to see more of this kind of content. Another myth you could debunk about the ar Is that it constantly needs to be lubed in order to function.
First the Henry beats the Spencer on reliability in dirty conditions, then I watch more videos to find that this rifle out performs the AK when put to the test. You guys are turning my world upside down!
Dam you just changed my world view, thanks guys
As a Canadian I feel like a C7 must be put through the test
The Myth itself was Unreliable.
Brandon Herrera is crying the state anthem of the Soviet Union.
I'm an AR guy, and you had me on the edge of my seat waiting to see how it handled.
Why do people think a gun platform the US military uses would be junk? The thinking on that is illogical. This is one the the most mass produced and legendary platforms for a reason.
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The AK was designed to work with stuff in in.
The AR was designed to not let any stuff in.
now.... if i didnt clean my ak for 50 years..
and i didnt clean my ar- 15 for 50 years
NEXT! on in range TV! LONG TERM TESTING!
hope you guys are planning on grandchildren....
It was satisfying to see the AR perform so well, although technically, it wasn't "submerged" in mud. That would imply the entire weapon was immersed in mud, including into the barrel opening - which would then be highly inconvenient to fire through. This test would be more akin to a soldier going prone in mud, but keeping the muzzle clear.
Clearly, a fine and dependable weapon.
Ugh. Nice going! You made the AK cry again and now i have to calm him down... Also you're making me cry
wow, you make me changed my mind after watch this video.
Ak is more tolerable to neglect such as no cleaning, under lubrication, or shitty elements the ar is a great rifle but is very finicky about running good if it's all right they'll run like nothing else but you do something wrong say run them bone dry of oil they'll start acting up
Yep, I'd agree with that. ~Karl
Yeah nah
I like the AR. But let's get a stock one from the same time as that AK was made, and have a fair comparison video.
As a AK and AR owner, I am surprised and relieved. Good fair test and not like some of the other knuckleheads who have ridiculous NOT REAL WORLD tests. Thanks
Those who say that the AR-15 is unreliable are just spouting old Vietnam stories, the modern AR-15 will take on just as much as an AK, the internals are so tightly sealed and protected that it will not allow much filth into the rifle. Its direct gas impingement system is something that also makes it quite reliable, as the gas blows all kinds of debris away from the bolt or out of the bolt.
It's only fallback is the trigger pack, which can get locked up badly when dirt mud, or sand ect. gets into that area.
When AKs are manufactured in Russia they are tested to withstand at least 3 types of abuse i know of:
1. Sand storm. They are tested in a room with a hell of small sand particles in the air.
2. Extreme frost. Something about -40c i think.
3. Being thrown off 1 meter to the concrete 5 times.
Any AK will be working after those three. Tests show that AR 15 can't handle at least some of those.
Looks like wet mud is a different case and in this one AR 15 wins indeed. But remember - it does not mean "more durable" or whatever. It's just 1 test with one specific sort of mud AR 15 wohn. To prove any point at lot more of different tests needed.
Mikhail Koshelev mud is a better test then that of sand
Don't think so. When you go to desert you deal with wind that carries a lot of tiny fraction sand particles. You can be smart, and prevent you gun from falling into pile of sand, but you can't protect it from being exposed to this sort of wind for a long time - unless you carry it in a plastic bag which is not too handy.
This is what AK sand test is about i think - long exposure to wind in a desert.
Mikhail Koshelev AR-15 in the sand? Yeah probably not, frost? Of course it would, the gun is made of solid steel dude, it can withstand it.
Mikhail Koshelev but there is a dust cover over the bolt carrier for a reason. Even if sand got in it, it would still work, if you drown it in sand, then yeah probably not.
Xcuse me, what? AR-15 made of solid steel? )) Dude i've got some bad news for you ))
There are probably custom steel versions but most body parts of AR-15 are aluminium alloy, that's what makes it less durable than AK - but also more lightweight.
The point is - AR-15 can withstand being drowned in sand (cover closed), AK can not. There are tests of that you can google.
But when it comes to small sand dust, AK manufacturers in Russia claim that AK excels. Cause of its larger gaps they are unable to jam it.
They also state that stock AR-15's are unable to shoot at -50 deg C.
Steve above states that it's due to heavy oil - which sounds quite logical. The point was - stock AR-15 can't do that. And i'd also be not so sure of its durability in extreme cold. Cause unlike AK it's not solid steel.
You should totally get more familiar with the subject next time.
I love this! Especially the part at 3:00 min in when he turns the gun to the camera and takes the extra 2seconnds to NOT SWEEP THE CAMERA MAN with his muzzle even though he just checked and knows the firearm is empty😁👍❕Responsible, safe, and educational gun use I can get behind this, thank you.
Sorry guys, i like your channel but i'm calling out the validity of this test because you are using American mud which has a different composition from soviet made mud designed to clog american weapons.
Thank you SOOOOOOO much for this. this has been a needed video for a while.
+Action Bob th-cam.com/video/LyXndCxn9K4/w-d-xo.html
the reason why it is perfect for this test is because of the gas system tbh. gassy gun but that hot air going all the way through the system has its advantages might not be the best system for a machine gun but for a multi purpose self repeating rifle the ar may continue to see service for a long time.
Ak47 fanboys yall okay?
try a volcanic sand test. nothing could survive that stuff in ww2
I love it when people say that the m4/m16 platforms wont pass a mud test, hahaha I've done one myself, and I had no problems overseas with my m16, in the deserts of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan.
Moral of the story: Don't believe internet rumors.
A gun from 1947 against a modern gun... Great Video btw
The M16 was adopted in 1960; the AKM in 1959.
lol where the hell are people getting these AK prices claiming they're so cheap that's why it didn't pass the mud test when I go to my local gun shop the cheapest one they have is 900$ and the M&P AR is around 800$ with taxes and all, what are you getting your AKs from Africa lol!
LOVEYOURCOUNTRY Yeah it's funny, for a long time AK's were cheap and AR's were expensive, now the situation has flipped. AR's are cheaper now.
I'm pleasantly surprised that the AR continued to function after that torture test. Would love to see
another AK test(s) though - with a real AK 47 this time! (Arsenal, Izmasch to name a few)
No one can actually define a "real" AK beyond teling us that the one we used was fake. We won't be bothering any further with this. ~Karl
Delta6 I have to restate my amusement that there is now a "real AK" and "fake AK", before it was just "AK is better than AR"...
The AR used was not a Colt or Armalite, so it's "fake" too.
The AK lost. Deal with it
never made that statement bro.. But he be all the fun You can be ; }
Delta6 You didn't say you would like to see the test with a 'real' AK, suggesting this one is fake?
Sam Moon Well, I don't know.. is it?
I've fired 8k+ rounds in my AR and still no malfunction.
3:06 I am probably an "AR fan boy", but it's really cool how the direct impingement gas blows off the mud, clearing the way for the bolt to eject the spent casing.
Loved that M4. Had to carry one during basic, and we took our M4's through hell, and not once did I get a miss fire. I love it and hope I get another chance with the M4.
Okay...I gave you a thumb's up. Where do I give the AR (and American superiority) a thumb's up?
ak is the best
Wow, I was wondering if the comments in the ak video are the same here, and they are! WOW!
Yep. ~Karl
Everyone that says you can drop an ak in mud and it will still shoot fine, but drop an ar in mud and you'll have to disassemble it... I hope you saw the difference too lol.
I'm a fan of both designs and this doesn't surprise me at all. I think you guys should mud test a SCAR as sort of the halfway point in terms of open vs closed design philosophy. Excellent work guys, I always enjoy your videos.
That mud is thinner and more watery than the mud you use in any other tests
doesn't even the same type of mud,this one is even dropping mud water
The AK and the AR15 videos were filmed on the same day, in the same mud, with the same wheelbarrow less than 15 minutes apart. The fact that people post it's different is sadly humorous because it's a amazing evidence of cognitive bias. ~Karl
why don't put 2 video together then？ in the national mud test after cover by mud and fired 2100 rounds，the AK start to jam，there must be some serious problem of the gun in the test，better re-test them with a better AK，like vepr or saiga，or some original izmash made.
Holy shit you're in denial.
They can't even reason with facts
Wow, great video, busted the poor reputation of the AR-15.
But what about a dust test? Seeing how most of the M4s today are now serving in Iraq, Afghanistan and so and there are reports that dust can mess with the system.
+BackUPDat They have one on their Full30 channel (same name) along with an M1A and MAS49/56, quite surprising results :-)
+BackUPDat www.full30.com/video/6618755f336970e55e6c50c1fe894ff8
+joehunt1980 Wow, the AR15 is doing so well in every test.
They should now just do one video wholly dedicated to torturing the AR15 now.
+Zoltan Csikos Sensors have picked up a level 20 butthurt ak fanboy in the vicinity. Exercise extreme caution.
I do not side with any particular weapon I just find amusing that people get so upset over shit like this
This video sold me my first AR. Thanks guys
From personal experience I can vouch that in almost every condition EXCEPT sand, the AR is more reliable. Sand however is a different story. In a loose gun like an AK, dry sand does not affect its operation at all, in an AR, the sand mixes with the gun oil (which is 100% necessary in an AR) and fouls the weapon very quickly.