The defense will be very thin until the trade deadline at least, unless there's a surprise move. I hope the forwards can stack up the goals, because they might have to.
With Broberg and Holloway I think the Oilers did the right thing caused by the salary cap, if there were not tight on the cap I would of liked to see them keep both but being tight on cap space they did what they had to. No way is Broberg at his point in his career worth what the Blues offered.
I might be one of the few people who feel the team is better. Everyone has complained about Cici for a couple years, and now that he's gone they all act like we've lost our #1 D-man. Podkolzin is a really good player that (IMO) will make more of an impact than Dylan. This will be a contract year for Ty Emberson, so expect some great play from him!
Agree with you 100%. Holloway and Broberg needed a raise and they deserve a bit but not what they got. Both are young and unproven this far. Oil wanna win the cup now, not in the future. Good luck to them but the oil are solid in the lineup right now and I think even better like you said, especially with the addition Of Arvidsson ans Skinner.
Agreed, they're better, better than last season for sure and will prove it this upcoming season. Dylan didn't make much impact here, and won't make much impact in St. Louis either. Broberg can play solid, as he showed during the playoff run, but is he consistent enough?
I agree that the left side of the defense needs some depth added especially because of the Broberg offer sheet. Its too bad all this transpired & imo was all avoidable but the priorities of management & their short term thinking & planning got exposed imo. None the less we move on. Hope the Oilers don't overspend too much on Draisaityl & Bouchard because then not only all the Toronto fans but all the other Oiler haters are going to be trolling all those so called Oiler fans who mocked Toronto for locking up so much cap space on their core four. Karma again.😢
There still could be a move coming to shore up the D, an example is a guy like Rasmus Anderson, who has 2 years left at about $4.5 mil. the Oilers now have $4.5 to spend so if he was available would you rather spend it on Broberg or a guy similar to Andersson?
@@SirManfly good point & considering just how vulnerable & weak our right side depth has been & probably still is Anderson would be a steal at that price. Yet I can't see Craig Conroy going out of his way to move him right now & especially to the Oilers, Anderson is the one asset that Calgary has left that will cost teams more around trade deadline time than right now. Imo it's a pipe dream But a good one.
Anderson is not the guy to mesh with Nurse. Need someone who is closer to to Larrson's style ie strong agaist zone entry with a decent pass to allow a Nurse to roam and carry the puck.
I see no need to panic but yes; that D, especially the left D, does need some work. It's the start of the year and not the end so there's lots of time to try out a few things but the front office does need to keep their radar tuned for possible steals and pick-ups. I don't have too many concerns about the F group and the Gs should be OK but there are a couple of decent UFAs still out there that I wouldn't be opposed to taking a look at... ie Lankinen.
I'm quite glad both guys are gone. Broberg, and Holloway. Namely, for the money. Broberg at $4.6M is absolutely idiotic, and Holloway at $2.2M, isn't too far from it. Neither has earned a pay day, least of all, Broberg. Holloway at least showed signs of improvement, and I think people look at Broberg through rose-tinted glasses or something, because he was far from a $2M defenseman, much less, $4.6M. Obviously they wanted to cash out for short term gains, and that's their business. Doesn't mean the team has to tolerate it. Holloway's media availability, he almost looked like he regretted it, and if he doesn't yet, he will. STL is years out from being any type of contender, and by the time they are, either of these guys will likely have been moved, signed elsewhere as a UFAs, or been long-since sent back to the minors. Good riddance to them both.
Holloway apparently didn't want to sign an offer sheet but when you're young and you have your agent whispering in your ear about how they'll "probably match" then I can see why he did it but he looked disappointed because I don't believe he wanted to leave the Oilers!
I think they made the right choice for those offer sheets. It would have been an overplay if we did, and also would have killed our cap space situation. To add to that, we got a good selection for fourth line and 2nd/ 3rd pairing with emberson. As for the PTO, I’m thinking Dermott would be a great fit. Especially as he played with McDavid and Brown under knoblauchs coaching. Maybe we find some more chemistry in that.
@@SirManfly Stecher is servicable but Brown and Dermott were not good. The Dermott/Dumba pairing was one of the more brutal you will ever see. Defense/pk was central to Coyotes struggles last year and is why they jettisoned, these scrubs. They were amongst the leagues worst defensemen on one of the leagues worst defensive teams and the Oilers are snatching them up like they are found gold.
@@jeffhembd9471 The Oilers need training camp bodies and exhibition game players so don't hold your breath that any of these guys are gonna stick on the team !
Holloway was injured for majority of his employment with the Oilers and Broberg hasn't played enough NHL games to be worthy of that contract. Oilers made the right decision to let them both learn the game and build the next 2 years while earning what the oilers couldn't have paid them. win win for both fans can suck it up
Oil made the right choice by letting the players go. Too much too soon on potential. Maybe Broberg will be a great player but he has not earned that title yet. Saw the Bowman interview and his reasoning was sound. As fans this season will show if the off season moves were the right ones.
It’s tough to see Holloway and broberg go. We could lament about “should signed them early”, but Given the situation this week I think they made the right decision. I’m not sure either player will be worth the salary they signed, and the required qualifying offers in 2026. No way we could sign drai ($12.5m?), bouch($9.5m) next year and Mcdavid($13.5m) after with $7m into Holloway/broberg.
I feel so sorry for Oilers fans & the organisation now that Stan Bowman is GM. Yeah, he won three Cups with the Blackhawks (the first of which rightly belongs to Dale Tallon) but his 'Win Now' mentality depleted Chicago's prospect pool to the point of spending at least a decade plus as a bottom-dwelling team. If you don't capture the Cup for McJesus & Co in the 2025 postseason, I fear for the Oilers in subsequent years. Getting Bowman(ed) means sacrificing the future for the now. If Bowman isn't gifted a championship team by the previous GM, the Oilers will be chasing the Cup with an ever decreasing prospect pool. It's gonna get more difficult with each successive season.
@@Dr.Acula76 and Stetcher is a minor leaguer. We know what Stetcher can be on a good team. #7. Shultz on a good team playing bottom 3 could be our 3or4th best dman. If Stetcher is our 4th best do you think we win the cup?
@safertobeanonymous2224 Stecher played 47 games last year on a worse team than Shultz and was +5. Again, Shultz could have been 2nd pair 5 years ago, not now. And no I'm not saying Stecher is a 2nd pair D. But I am saying there's only one T in his name.
Broberg and Holloway would have caused bad blood in the room. So many took discounts and these unproven everyday nhlers want regular money. Good riddance.
Who took a discount? Who? Please don't say Adam Henrique? He's 34 years old & he isn't getting any faster. He's due for a massive drop off in play & points unlike those 2 youngsters😢
@@jonbenjisnomore7935 Exactly there is this idea that these guys took massive pay cuts. If they took any kind of cut it was maybe a hundred grand or two. It wasn't like they took a cut from 3.5m to 2m or something.
You eont touch top line D. I would put stecher(if healthy, can be a good puck mover) with nurse so that nurse can park his ass on the line, stop rushing as much as he does and plays a little Pronger-esque and make people pay for being in front of the net. You can slide other d in and out with kulak to find best fit. For now
GMs around the league were lining up to try and stick it to Bowman the guys a lighting rod for controversy i like the idea of having money to fill the D corp
@@Dr.Acula76 if it was Holland they would have left them alone .Broberg sounded like he wouldnt have signed BUT he would have been traded for more than a 2nd rounder
@randybegon3191 Hey, speculation is great and all, but I'd like to know which GMs were lining up. You haven't named one. Understandable, as it's all speculation.
This team is old. Lists to starboard on right defense. Needs at least two more d-men. A shutdown guy and a good puck mover like Broberg was. Player from San Jose and unknown quantity. Still can't understand why Vancouver would trade a player to us. A mystery wrapped in an enigma. How are you going to add two b d-men? What do you have to offer in a trade? Draft picks? Who would you take off the current roster? Defense is weaker, which means the team is weaker. You win with good defense. Can't see how Bowman is going to solve the problem. Didn't make many, if any, good trades when he was with the Hawks. Mainly salary dump things, which might be why Ceci is gone. Offer sheet issue is not all his fault though. Began long ago. Could have signed them earlier in the year. Whose fault is it that they didn't do it? Holland? Jackson? Jackson is the CEO, so he plays a big part in it. Miss Ken Holland. He didn't go to Notre Dame like Bowman. Holland a true hockey guy. A goalie who played a few games in the NHL. Went into scouting. Endless plane trips to various place to take a look at a player. Hotel rooms for the weary. Worked his way up. Learned the game inside out. Not so with Bowman. Bowman on the finance side of things. That's how he started with the Hawks. I think Bowman got a boost due to the pedigree of his name. His father Scotty won a few Cups with Montreal. Bowman thought it was more important to win a Cup than report a sexual assault to the police. Bowman has his ring. The victim of the assault will carry the pain of that memory around with him for the rest of his life. But who said life is fair? Did Ken Holland retire? Haven't heard anything about him.
I wish the Oilers and 630 Ched would give Bob Stauffer a permanent vacation. He's an annoying pain in the ass. He's negative towards the team win or lose. Never says anything positive
You have 6 players gone from 2024, young fast players , you now have 6 new slower players who have not played a shift yet, lots of fans overly optimistic on Skinner and Arvidson, defence will be a liability again , No nurse probably 2 cups the last 2 years, this team will be terrible, okay still top 8, but no Finals, barring major acquisitions at the deadline that work,
They have to pay him and bouchard and I can't see draisaitl taking a team friendly deal considering his last contract was just that and he's significantly out performed it compared to others. And Bouchard wanted to sign a bigger deal last year and they gave him a one year deal and now he puts up over 80 points so you can be he isn't signing for less than Nurse. Then you have McD the following year and you gotta figure he will want at least 1m but prob 2-3m more than Draisaitl. That's the problem with being a top heavy team is that the top guys eat up all the money. It can work and Chicaco showed that during their cup runs but you gotta find the right guys to fit in.
@@Dr.Acula76 Uhh, no they weren't he was literally putting up about a point a game. And he's out performed it significantly so he's been under paid and he knows it. He's not doing a team friendly deal. Seems to be an excuse you may want to use but maybe you need to use the way back machine.
Broberg is a good player but asking for too much. C C Cody and Brett Kulak are better defender they don't make more than 4 millions. So Oilers organization let him go is a right choice, for Broberg he won a huge jackpot.😅😅😅
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The Oilers are making the right choices, they'll be a better team than last season, and will prove it this season.
The defense will be very thin until the trade deadline at least, unless there's a surprise move. I hope the forwards can stack up the goals, because they might have to.
With Broberg and Holloway I think the Oilers did the right thing caused by the salary cap, if there were not tight on the cap I would of liked to see them keep both but being tight on cap space they did what they had to. No way is Broberg at his point in his career worth what the Blues offered.
I might be one of the few people who feel the team is better. Everyone has complained about Cici for a couple years, and now that he's gone they all act like we've lost our #1 D-man. Podkolzin is a really good player that (IMO) will make more of an impact than Dylan. This will be a contract year for Ty Emberson, so expect some great play from him!
You can only HOPE Podz plays better than he has..
Agree with you 100%. Holloway and Broberg needed a raise and they deserve a bit but not what they got. Both are young and unproven this far. Oil wanna win the cup now, not in the future. Good luck to them but the oil are solid in the lineup right now and I think even better like you said, especially with the addition Of Arvidsson ans Skinner.
Agreed, they're better, better than last season for sure and will prove it this upcoming season. Dylan didn't make much impact here, and won't make much impact in St. Louis either. Broberg can play solid, as he showed during the playoff run, but is he consistent enough?
We are a 💯 better! Low liability!
Yea, you do not know puck
Another great video, thanks! Plus, I'm enjoying the nice 2160p HDR video quality!
I agree that the left side of the defense needs some depth added especially because of the Broberg offer sheet. Its too bad all this transpired & imo was all avoidable but the priorities of management & their short term thinking & planning got exposed imo. None the less we move on. Hope the Oilers don't overspend too much on Draisaityl & Bouchard because then not only all the Toronto fans but all the other Oiler haters are going to be trolling all those so called Oiler fans who mocked Toronto for locking up so much cap space on their core four. Karma again.😢
There still could be a move coming to shore up the D, an example is a guy like Rasmus Anderson, who has 2 years left at about $4.5 mil. the Oilers now have $4.5 to spend so if he was available would you rather spend it on Broberg or a guy similar to Andersson?
@@SirManfly good point & considering just how vulnerable & weak our right side depth has been & probably still is Anderson would be a steal at that price. Yet I can't see Craig Conroy going out of his way to move him right now & especially to the Oilers, Anderson is the one asset that Calgary has left that will cost teams more around trade deadline time than right now. Imo it's a pipe dream But a good one.
Anderson is not the guy to mesh with Nurse. Need someone who is closer to to Larrson's style ie strong agaist zone entry with a decent pass to allow a
Nurse to roam and carry the puck.
Really enjoy the channel Patrick. Big Up's!
Thank you 🏒
I see no need to panic but yes; that D, especially the left D, does need some work. It's the start of the year and not the end so there's lots of time to try out a few things but the front office does need to keep their radar tuned for possible steals and pick-ups.
I don't have too many concerns about the F group and the Gs should be OK but there are a couple of decent UFAs still out there that I wouldn't be opposed to taking a look at... ie Lankinen.
Left D as in depth? bc our top 3 on the left side are quite solid... ek, nurse, kulak.. The hole is at 2RD
Our LD is full.. there is zero room on that side without a trade
@@gregszymanski3978 That's what I'm talking about, obviously. It needs an upgrade.
I'm quite glad both guys are gone. Broberg, and Holloway. Namely, for the money. Broberg at $4.6M is absolutely idiotic, and Holloway at $2.2M, isn't too far from it. Neither has earned a pay day, least of all, Broberg.
Holloway at least showed signs of improvement, and I think people look at Broberg through rose-tinted glasses or something, because he was far from a $2M defenseman, much less, $4.6M.
Obviously they wanted to cash out for short term gains, and that's their business. Doesn't mean the team has to tolerate it. Holloway's media availability, he almost looked like he regretted it, and if he doesn't yet, he will.
STL is years out from being any type of contender, and by the time they are, either of these guys will likely have been moved, signed elsewhere as a UFAs, or been long-since sent back to the minors.
Good riddance to them both.
Holloway apparently didn't want to sign an offer sheet but when you're young and you have your agent whispering in your ear about how they'll "probably match" then I can see why he did it but he looked disappointed because I don't believe he wanted to leave the Oilers!
Agree with you 100%. 4.2 is insane.
tinnordi would be a good fit and brings size and grit
what do you think about kevin shattenkirk? right-side def. a little old but it could be only for a year. could be stop-gap or better. pto or contract
He’s a possibility too
I think they made the right choice for those offer sheets. It would have been an overplay if we did, and also would have killed our cap space situation. To add to that, we got a good selection for fourth line and 2nd/ 3rd pairing with emberson. As for the PTO, I’m thinking Dermott would be a great fit. Especially as he played with McDavid and Brown under knoblauchs coaching. Maybe we find some more chemistry in that.
Don't think Edmonton will bring anyone in permanently till Xmas the earliest
Or the trade deadline, but we'll see.
More likely the trade deadline. Teams aren't going to let anyone useful go much before then.
Stecher, Brown, & now maybe Dermott. When you are cozying up to Coyotes defensive cast offs, you're in trouble.
They're still not bad players, they were just stuck in a crappy organization !
@@SirManfly Stecher is servicable but Brown and Dermott were not good. The Dermott/Dumba pairing was one of the more brutal you will ever see. Defense/pk was central to Coyotes struggles last year and is why they jettisoned, these scrubs. They were amongst the leagues worst defensemen on one of the leagues worst defensive teams and the Oilers are snatching them up like they are found gold.
@@jeffhembd9471 This is what happens when you mismanage assets, including money.
@@jeffhembd9471 The Oilers need training camp bodies and exhibition game players so don't hold your breath that any of these guys are gonna stick on the team !
Holloway was injured for majority of his employment with the Oilers and Broberg hasn't played enough NHL games to be worthy of that contract. Oilers made the right decision to let them both learn the game and build the next 2 years while earning what the oilers couldn't have paid them. win win for both fans can suck it up
Oil made the right choice by letting the players go. Too much too soon on potential. Maybe Broberg will be a great player but he has not earned that title yet. Saw the Bowman interview and his reasoning was sound. As fans this season will show if the off season moves were the right ones.
It’s tough to see Holloway and broberg go. We could lament about “should signed them early”, but Given the situation this week I think they made the right decision. I’m not sure either player will be worth the salary they signed, and the required qualifying offers in 2026. No way we could sign drai ($12.5m?), bouch($9.5m) next year and Mcdavid($13.5m) after with $7m into Holloway/broberg.
Leon will be signed long tern soon.
Hey Patrick...sent you an email as well. Cheers...
I think Drais gonna try free agency someone will pay him 17m! Looking at the defence and goalie this team is no sure bet!
LMAO. It's good to dream!
The Blues have a ton of LH dmen, maybe they should offer up one of them picks they received....
Still think letting Holloway go was a mistake. Dump some of those old dudes. Kinda hope Perry is out on LTIR after the first regular game 🤣
Overreaction. Broberg and Holloway barely played and Ceci was too expensive.
I feel so sorry for Oilers fans & the organisation now that Stan Bowman is GM. Yeah, he won three Cups with the Blackhawks (the first of which rightly belongs to Dale Tallon) but his 'Win Now' mentality depleted Chicago's prospect pool to the point of spending at least a decade plus as a bottom-dwelling team. If you don't capture the Cup for McJesus & Co in the 2025 postseason, I fear for the Oilers in subsequent years. Getting Bowman(ed) means sacrificing the future for the now. If Bowman isn't gifted a championship team by the previous GM, the Oilers will be chasing the Cup with an ever decreasing prospect pool. It's gonna get more difficult with each successive season.
Are we a better team from Game 7 of the playoffs ???
no
@@judymathison1249
Ya, the voice in my head agrees with you !!
Yes…the d core is worse but the forward core is better
Yep
Forward core is two steps forward and the D is two steps back. But the prospects coming in are reason to be optimistic.
Hell no
Right shot
Barrie or Zub or Schultz
Need someone to bump Josh and Stetcher down a spot till trade deadline pick up
At this point, Stecher is better than Barrie or Shultz
@@Dr.Acula76 Stetcher is a fringe NHLer. He’s an unknown commodity on a very good team.
Schultz top end is higher but question is what is he now.
@@safertobeanonymous2224 His top end was ten years ago. We need guys who can play D. He was -24 last season
@@Dr.Acula76 and Stetcher is a minor leaguer.
We know what Stetcher can be on a good team. #7.
Shultz on a good team playing bottom 3 could be our 3or4th best dman.
If Stetcher is our 4th best do you think we win the cup?
@safertobeanonymous2224 Stecher played 47 games last year on a worse team than Shultz and was +5. Again, Shultz could have been 2nd pair 5 years ago, not now. And no I'm not saying Stecher is a 2nd pair D. But I am saying there's only one T in his name.
Broberg and Holloway would have caused bad blood in the room. So many took discounts and these unproven everyday nhlers want regular money. Good riddance.
Who took a discount? Who? Please don't say Adam Henrique? He's 34 years old & he isn't getting any faster. He's due for a massive drop off in play & points unlike those 2 youngsters😢
@@jonbenjisnomore7935 nugent yanmark hendrique Jeff skinner arvidson
@@jonbenjisnomore7935 Exactly there is this idea that these guys took massive pay cuts. If they took any kind of cut it was maybe a hundred grand or two. It wasn't like they took a cut from 3.5m to 2m or something.
You eont touch top line D. I would put stecher(if healthy, can be a good puck mover) with nurse so that nurse can park his ass on the line, stop rushing as much as he does and plays a little Pronger-esque and make people pay for being in front of the net. You can slide other d in and out with kulak to find best fit. For now
GMs around the league were lining up to try and stick it to Bowman
the guys a lighting rod for controversy
i like the idea of having money to fill the D corp
Prove it. Which GM's and how?
@@Dr.Acula76 if it was Holland they would have left them alone .Broberg sounded like he wouldnt have signed BUT he would have been traded for more than a 2nd rounder
@randybegon3191 Hey, speculation is great and all, but I'd like to know which GMs were lining up. You haven't named one. Understandable, as it's all speculation.
Good news training wheels off
Oilers fate hangs on the Dri deal.....
First.😉
First in a half 😅
This team is old. Lists to starboard on right defense. Needs at least two more d-men. A shutdown guy and a good puck mover like Broberg was. Player from San Jose and unknown quantity. Still can't understand why Vancouver would trade a player to us. A mystery wrapped in an enigma. How are you going to add two b d-men? What do you have to offer in a trade? Draft picks? Who would you take off the current roster? Defense is weaker, which means the team is weaker. You win with good defense. Can't see how Bowman is going to solve the problem. Didn't make many, if any, good trades when he was with the Hawks. Mainly salary dump things, which might be why Ceci is gone. Offer sheet issue is not all his fault though. Began long ago. Could have signed them earlier in the year. Whose fault is it that they didn't do it? Holland? Jackson? Jackson is the CEO, so he plays a big part in it. Miss Ken Holland. He didn't go to Notre Dame like Bowman. Holland a true hockey guy. A goalie who played a few games in the NHL. Went into scouting. Endless plane trips to various place to take a look at a player. Hotel rooms for the weary. Worked his way up. Learned the game inside out. Not so with Bowman. Bowman on the finance side of things. That's how he started with the Hawks. I think Bowman got a boost due to the pedigree of his name. His father Scotty won a few Cups with Montreal. Bowman thought it was more important to win a Cup than report a sexual assault to the police. Bowman has his ring. The victim of the assault will carry the pain of that memory around with him for the rest of his life. But who said life is fair? Did Ken Holland retire? Haven't heard anything about him.
Nothing new to report on Holland
I wish the Oilers and 630 Ched would give Bob Stauffer a permanent vacation. He's an annoying pain in the ass. He's negative towards the team win or lose. Never says anything positive
You have 6 players gone from 2024, young fast players , you now have 6 new slower players who have not played a shift yet, lots of fans overly optimistic on Skinner and Arvidson, defence will be a liability again , No nurse probably 2 cups the last 2 years, this team will be terrible, okay still top 8, but no Finals, barring major acquisitions at the deadline that work,
If they pay #29 they will be in cap hell forever
And they will.
They have to pay him and bouchard and I can't see draisaitl taking a team friendly deal considering his last contract was just that and he's significantly out performed it compared to others. And Bouchard wanted to sign a bigger deal last year and they gave him a one year deal and now he puts up over 80 points so you can be he isn't signing for less than Nurse. Then you have McD the following year and you gotta figure he will want at least 1m but prob 2-3m more than Draisaitl. That's the problem with being a top heavy team is that the top guys eat up all the money. It can work and Chicaco showed that during their cup runs but you gotta find the right guys to fit in.
@@brianlb78Leon's last contract wasn't team friendly when he signed it. Everyone said the Oilers were crazy for paying him that much.
@@Dr.Acula76 Uhh, no they weren't he was literally putting up about a point a game. And he's out performed it significantly so he's been under paid and he knows it. He's not doing a team friendly deal. Seems to be an excuse you may want to use but maybe you need to use the way back machine.
@brianlb78 LOL. Uhh, yeah they were. No excuses here. And we'll see won't we. All signs point to about 13.5 which is Leon taking a cut
Broberg is a good player but asking for too much. C C Cody and Brett Kulak are better defender they don't make more than 4 millions. So Oilers organization let him go is a right choice, for Broberg he won a huge jackpot.😅😅😅