Hi i’m from Chile, South America. I really want to buy the PID kit to install in my GCP but i don’t know where can I buy it. Can you give me the link where you bought the PID please?
Yes I bought and installed the Mr Shades PID thanks to you. It’s amazing. It takes all the confusion out of it and makes super consistent drinks. I am waiting for restock of the single hole steam tip to complete the package.
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 I have blocked one of the holes and it gives more control (directional) + more steam power coming out of the open hole. Compare it to a garden hose where you hold your thumb over part of the hole, same volume, stronger jet.
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 not sure, I had a go with blue top milk today and it’s MUCH better than green top. Sweeter and much creamier. Then the technique is most of it I guess but as you are trying to create a twirl, don’t the opposing jets on the standard nozzle counteract each other a Iittle?
I got everything but the PID for my classic and I’m really feeling that I should get one. I love light roasts and I can count on 2 hands the time I have been able to extract a shot with sweetness. I’m gonna buy the new classic pro steam wand and a PID.
Thanks for this Goran I just purchased an Auber PID, a pressure gauge, rehostat and top box. Waiting for them to arrive. Also waiting for my Eureka Mignon Facile so I can step up my espresso game.
Gaggia is one of my backup machines. With pid it can pull really nice espresso shots quite consistently. That extra $150 or so for pid kit is worth every penny. But it is not easy to install. So be very careful and plan for backup in advance.
I installed shades PID too for the same reasons. Since I wanted to learn from a reference point of view , why certain changes in my input caused expected results in my cup. I learned a LOT…! Now, the ability to control these inputs for particular roasts is so important to how much I enjoy my coffee. I would only recommend modding the GCPro if the person wants to take their passion to another level. It is very worth it. Keep up the great vids…!!
Gorane, Fantastic video! Ive only just found your channel and im glad I did, really useful information on how to use these machines for the beginner like me. Looking forward to buying my Gaggia Classic Pro, found one on sale for about $650 AUD so im excited about getting into it.
Yes yes yes!👍🏻Love how you say it’s a beast to be tamed! Such a powerful machine but definitely need to get the hang of the workflow and install a PID👏🏻It takes the guessing game out of the equation and everything else follows for a nice routine😃
I just installed my shades of coffee PID on my 10 year old gaggia. I cant believe I waited 10 years for this. I just couldnt stand the steaming milk anymore. It was just completely random and my wife loves capuccinos. I managed to get good espresso by monitoring temp with a boiler installed thermalcouple, but I could never get the steamer to behave in a predictable manner.
Hi Goran, and thank to Adrian for PID kit. 😁😁😁 And yes, everyone who are a little bit serious about coffee should get one. Night and day. First good grinder, then PID and you have years of enjoyment. More expensive machines are just more beautiful, usually come with PID, more convenient (especially for heavier use) but cost double or triple (or more). IMHO upgraded Gaggia is the best entry level machine.
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 Yes, yes - not only grey hairs, one may lose some. Now I have an airfield for mosquitoes... 🤣. And the problem WAS - the grinder (not Gaggia). And that temp surfing... it is better when PID 'does it for you'.
I will do the mod, but had trouble finding one that doesn't turn the machine into a frankenstein. Probably need to mount the display at the back or something.
I installed a PID on my Gaggia and love it to bits! Was so easy to install. Was a little worried because of your original video but found that the instructions from shades of coffee were actually really easy to follow with no issues. The only issue I am having is with the steam. The steam pressure is great but it still doesn’t last that long for me and if I brew another espresso and turn the steam back on I don’t have any pressure although it should full temp. I need to run some water through the steam wand first before it will go back to full steam pressure. Not sure why this is. Anyone else having issues with this ?
@@motopasky thanks mate, I figured that was the reason but wasn’t sure because it was running out of steam quicker than before I had the PID installed. I turned the steam temp up and found it actually made a difference. Not sure why but it helped a lot. Thanks again @# motopasky
Great video! I’ve had my PID for around a month now and love the consistency with brew temp. Question about your steam temp, is 158 degrees working for you? The Shades manual recommends no higher than 150
Before installing PID control, I want to know how many degrees Celsius is lost when water passes through group and portafilter/holder made from silumin. And how it will be with PID of Kotrol. It can make a mathematical model to confirm the results.
Thanks for the vid, but one thing I don’t really understand about the PID. Does it only show me the temperature and do I have to surf to the right spot OR does the machine „learn“ to hold a certain temperature due to the PID alone? 🤔
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 I'm sorry for your loss. I had that feeling of PTSD cramming a semester with learning all I could about ceramics and mold making for my toys + figurines course. It was worth it: I got out 19 figurines out of it while doing my other credit courses. Never done ceramics before, but traumatizing myself with 12-14 hour days in a 4-month span was worth it. Loved every minute of the class!
Hello! I was considering buying the GCP + PID + OPV, but after surfing reddit a common complaint is that you get tired of it quickly because of its small boiler. I make around 4 espressos daily on my crappy Delonghi Dedica, exclusively lattes since the shots pulled from this machine is just... terrible. I want to invest in a good machine that can pull consistent shots, and doesn't take forever to prepare. I've been considering an HX machine such as the MaraX or DB like the Elizabeth. I recall you mentioning that the machine performs like a $1.5k machine. My question is, if you had the budget, would you have invested in a machine like the MaraX instead of this modded Gaggia?
Great question, I'm not sure if you've seen it, but we just bought a Mara X. In all honesty, if I knew how good HX machines were, I would have bought one from the beginning. Still not regretting buying the Gaggia, and it's definitely staying with us forever 😁
Hey can anyone help me please? I have a Gaggia Classic and a Baratza sette 270 too. I like the coffee what i make but i have a problem. For example the time for brew the first cup is 25 second and against that i use the same beans and the same grind size the second cup will flow much faster. If i set the grind size finer the brew time will be slower way too much then 30 seconds. So i need a PID kit or what im doing wrong?
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 I use both of them but for example 3 E is too fine and i get a few drops of coffe and 4 A is to fast. I dont understand maybe im doing something wrong with the preheating?
I would argue that temp surfing does NOT work. Especially after installing a PID and watching how much the temp plummets under load. It’s might help. But it doesn’t really help. You just blast your shot with heat and then it gets too cold and things end up super inconsistent and unbalanced.
Great videos, really helpful. Question - Are you going to make a new video in terms of workflow for the Gaggia with the PID? I'd like to see the difference in workflow with the PID in place, i.e. does the PID fix the issue of running out of hot water or losing steam pressure as in your tips and tricks video you had before you added the PID?
Thank you for the kind words :) We will shoot a workflow video on the Classic this weekend, and it will be published around a month from now. The PID fixes the temperature fluctuations, makes more powerfull steam, but it's still not as good as I'd like it to be
ah.. 200 buck... makesme reconsider buying the Gaggia... look like to get a good gaggia we need 500$ of mods... pressure spring, svt basket, pid, bottomless portafiler... at this point why not buy a 1200$ machine?...
I LOVE a PID on my Gaggia Classic Pro. I bought it because you recommended it. Best decision I’ve made all year in improving my coffee enjoyment!!!
You're all set with your coffee setup sir, wish everyone could see it 😊
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 Well, maybe it’s time to make that happen!!!
Hi i’m from Chile, South America. I really want to buy the PID kit to install in my GCP but i don’t know where can I buy it. Can you give me the link where you bought the PID please?
the comment section here is so mature. my shades pid kit just arrived. took about a month to get to get here in bacolod, philippines.
Yes I bought and installed the Mr Shades PID thanks to you. It’s amazing. It takes all the confusion out of it and makes super consistent drinks. I am waiting for restock of the single hole steam tip to complete the package.
I'm wondering if the single hole would make a huge difference 🤔
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 I have blocked one of the holes and it gives more control (directional) + more steam power coming out of the open hole. Compare it to a garden hose where you hold your thumb over part of the hole, same volume, stronger jet.
@@motopasky Which one did you block, outter or inner? And, how did you do it?
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 not sure, I had a go with blue top milk today and it’s MUCH better than green top. Sweeter and much creamier. Then the technique is most of it I guess but as you are trying to create a twirl, don’t the opposing jets on the standard nozzle counteract each other a
Iittle?
@@motopasky makes sense 😁
My PID, dimmer kit and pressure gauge just arrived from Shades of Coffee. Can't wait to install.
how did it go?
i just ordered all parts myself insead of a premade kit for my gaggia thanks!
That's great, was it much cheaper than the Shades of coffee kit?
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 around half of the price but i have my own 3d printer that can print the pid case for me for free.
Do you have instructions for the diy PID?
@@mtb27 th-cam.com/video/ZAtsuS6B6xg/w-d-xo.html
I got everything but the PID for my classic and I’m really feeling that I should get one. I love light roasts and I can count on 2 hands the time I have been able to extract a shot with sweetness. I’m gonna buy the new classic pro steam wand and a PID.
That's the next move Martin 😁
Thanks for this Goran I just purchased an Auber PID, a pressure gauge, rehostat and top box. Waiting for them to arrive. Also waiting for my Eureka Mignon Facile so I can step up my espresso game.
Gaggia is one of my backup machines. With pid it can pull really nice espresso shots quite consistently. That extra $150 or so for pid kit is worth every penny. But it is not easy to install. So be very careful and plan for backup in advance.
I installed shades PID too for the same reasons. Since I wanted to learn from a reference point of view , why certain changes in my input caused expected results in my cup. I learned a LOT…! Now, the ability to control these inputs for particular roasts is so important to how much I enjoy my coffee. I would only recommend modding the GCPro if the person wants to take their passion to another level. It is very worth it.
Keep up the great vids…!!
You're absolutely right Dirk, great point about the necessity of moding the Classic 😁
I've got pid on my delonghi ECP and it is great
"It's all good, broseph." You guys are awesome! 😁
Gorane, Fantastic video! Ive only just found your channel and im glad I did, really useful information on how to use these machines for the beginner like me. Looking forward to buying my Gaggia Classic Pro, found one on sale for about $650 AUD so im excited about getting into it.
Great stuff mate, have a look at appliances online, they have great deals on the Classic every now and then 😁
Great video. I just ordered the nine bar kit and the PID kit from Mr. Shades.
You're on the right track Darin 😁
Yes yes yes!👍🏻Love how you say it’s a beast to be tamed! Such a powerful machine but definitely need to get the hang of the workflow and install a PID👏🏻It takes the guessing game out of the equation and everything else follows for a nice routine😃
Well said, the PID + OPV mod makes the Classic a tamed beast 😁
Hi Goran, I have instaled PID on my Gaggia classic and now I wondering what parametars are ideal for P, I and D in menu 0036?
I just installed my shades of coffee PID on my 10 year old gaggia. I cant believe I waited 10 years for this. I just couldnt stand the steaming milk anymore. It was just completely random and my wife loves capuccinos. I managed to get good espresso by monitoring temp with a boiler installed thermalcouple, but I could never get the steamer to behave in a predictable manner.
Hi Goran, and thank to Adrian for PID kit. 😁😁😁
And yes, everyone who are a little bit serious about coffee should get one. Night and day. First good grinder, then PID and you have years of enjoyment. More expensive machines are just more beautiful, usually come with PID, more convenient (especially for heavier use) but cost double or triple (or more). IMHO upgraded Gaggia is the best entry level machine.
Thank you Zoran, can't go wrong with a Gaggia Classic as a first machine 😂 Might get soem grey hairs while getting the hang of it though haha
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 Yes, yes - not only grey hairs, one may lose some. Now I have an airfield for mosquitoes... 🤣. And the problem WAS - the grinder (not Gaggia). And that temp surfing... it is better when PID 'does it for you'.
I am interested in this machine... What is your opinion of the modification "Gaggiuino" Someone has it installed?
Exelente video donde puedo comprar es PID ,podras poner el links amigo.
Do you have a video on the setting up of the pid from shades, you know going through the setup?
what does clicking the power button 3 times do?
I was asking myself the same question. Just got my machine three weeks ago
Clears out the ghosts that nest in the water tank.
It was just a joke 😂
@@cabe_bedlam DEAD 😂
I will do the mod, but had trouble finding one that doesn't turn the machine into a frankenstein. Probably need to mount the display at the back or something.
~$77 custom route that is completely reversible. th-cam.com/video/ZAtsuS6B6xg/w-d-xo.html
I agree mate, what Robert did in his video seems like a good solution
Very good video, Goran. In this day and age prosumer machines should come with a built in PID.
I agree sir 😁
I installed a PID on my Gaggia and love it to bits! Was so easy to install. Was a little worried because of your original video but found that the instructions from shades of coffee were actually really easy to follow with no issues.
The only issue I am having is with the steam. The steam pressure is great but it still doesn’t last that long for me and if I brew another espresso and turn the steam back on I don’t have any pressure although it should full temp. I need to run some water through the steam wand first before it will go back to full steam pressure. Not sure why this is. Anyone else having issues with this ?
The boiler needs to be refilled. Once all the water has converted into steam and you've used it up, the boiler is empty.
@@motopasky thanks mate, I figured that was the reason but wasn’t sure because it was running out of steam quicker than before I had the PID installed. I turned the steam temp up and found it actually made a difference. Not sure why but it helped a lot.
Thanks again @# motopasky
Same issue here as well, you can't steam back to back 😔
Where did you install the PID
What's the best pid for coffee machine another auber ??
the one I have is the Shades of Coffee, shipped from England
Great video! I’ve had my PID for around a month now and love the consistency with brew temp. Question about your steam temp, is 158 degrees working for you? The Shades manual recommends no higher than 150
I tried 150 celsius but it's just not strong enough for my needs. 158 seems to be the sweet spot 😊
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 Any concern on tripping the thermal fuse? or has yours been removed? I'm concerned it would go off.
@@MrADHUI I would like to know the answer to this as well.
@@MrADHUI The fuse is rated for 184 Celsius so 158 should be fine.
Before installing PID control, I want to know how many degrees Celsius is lost when water passes through group and portafilter/holder made from silumin. And how it will be with PID of Kotrol. It can make a mathematical model to confirm the results.
that would require someone to approach it with a bit of science and some measuirng tools...
Thanks for the vid, but one thing I don’t really understand about the PID. Does it only show me the temperature and do I have to surf to the right spot OR does the machine „learn“ to hold a certain temperature due to the PID alone? 🤔
Hi tmb how are u. ?? Good subject
Nice video. Do you have a link for this PID?
It's the Shades of Coffee PID, you'll find it if you type that in google
any chance on a pid installation vid?
Not anytime soon, I struggled a lot when installing it the first time I think I have PTSD now 😂
You can check mine;)
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 🤣🤣 me too
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 I'm sorry for your loss. I had that feeling of PTSD cramming a semester with learning all I could about ceramics and mold making for my toys + figurines course. It was worth it: I got out 19 figurines out of it while doing my other credit courses. Never done ceramics before, but traumatizing myself with 12-14 hour days in a 4-month span was worth it. Loved every minute of the class!
Hi! I’m just wondering where I can find a good PID for the GCP?
I have the Shades of Coffee Pid, there is the Auber one as well, or you can make your own if you want to save money 💸
Hello! I was considering buying the GCP + PID + OPV, but after surfing reddit a common complaint is that you get tired of it quickly because of its small boiler. I make around 4 espressos daily on my crappy Delonghi Dedica, exclusively lattes since the shots pulled from this machine is just... terrible. I want to invest in a good machine that can pull consistent shots, and doesn't take forever to prepare. I've been considering an HX machine such as the MaraX or DB like the Elizabeth.
I recall you mentioning that the machine performs like a $1.5k machine. My question is, if you had the budget, would you have invested in a machine like the MaraX instead of this modded Gaggia?
Great question, I'm not sure if you've seen it, but we just bought a Mara X. In all honesty, if I knew how good HX machines were, I would have bought one from the beginning. Still not regretting buying the Gaggia, and it's definitely staying with us forever 😁
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 Hi Goran, I am considering to buy one too. How does switching to Mara change the taste of espresso?
@@muratozt the taste of espresso doesn't necessarily change, but the day to day life with the Mara is so much more enjoyable
Hey can anyone help me please? I have a Gaggia Classic and a Baratza sette 270 too. I like the coffee what i make but i have a problem. For example the time for brew the first cup is 25 second and against that i use the same beans and the same grind size the second cup will flow much faster. If i set the grind size finer the brew time will be slower way too much then 30 seconds. So i need a PID kit or what im doing wrong?
When you're adjusting the grinder, are you using the micro or macro adjuster?
@@tmb-themajesticbeanchannel1746 I use both of them but for example 3 E is too fine and i get a few drops of coffe and 4 A is to fast. I dont understand maybe im doing something wrong with the preheating?
I would argue that temp surfing does NOT work. Especially after installing a PID and watching how much the temp plummets under load. It’s might help. But it doesn’t really help. You just blast your shot with heat and then it gets too cold and things end up super inconsistent and unbalanced.
Great videos, really helpful. Question - Are you going to make a new video in terms of workflow for the Gaggia with the PID? I'd like to see the difference in workflow with the PID in place, i.e. does the PID fix the issue of running out of hot water or losing steam pressure as in your tips and tricks video you had before you added the PID?
Thank you for the kind words :) We will shoot a workflow video on the Classic this weekend, and it will be published around a month from now. The PID fixes the temperature fluctuations, makes more powerfull steam, but it's still not as good as I'd like it to be
@2:30 brew 15 to 20 minutes? 2:30
Bet he won't show how to install it
I do, check the video in my channel:)
It’s really not difficult.
@@muratozt nice video Murat 👌
Can't do an installation video on something that's already installed 😂
@@muratozt It's in Turkish, We need English
ah.. 200 buck... makesme reconsider buying the Gaggia... look like to get a good gaggia we need 500$ of mods... pressure spring, svt basket, pid, bottomless portafiler... at this point why not buy a 1200$ machine?...
If you get a used Gaggia its pretty cheap
no
Brewtime 20 minutes or 20 seconds.....