Amazing how the H2H matters now, but didn't when Tennessee had the win over Alabama... or lets not forget when vandy had the H2H either against Bama with the same record. Amazing how its pick and chose how to get Alabama in any way possible. Sometimes those logos just mean more.
When Tennessee had the win over Alabama Alabama beat Georgia and Georgia beat Tennessee. It's not fair any way you put it because its a circle. If they put bama ahead of tennessee its not fair because tennessee beat them. Putting tennessee above bama doesn't work either because bama beat georgia and georgia beat tennessee.
H2H didn’t matter with Bama v. Tenn because Bama beat UGA and UGA beat Tenn. It’s a triangle of teams that beat each other so H2H washes out. Bama was ranked higher because their SOS & SOR were better than Tenn, and UGA had just lost big to Ole Miss. Whatever arg you’re trying to make ab Vandy is ridiculous and truly doesn’t deserve a response if you know ball.
Having Ohio St above Tenn is some crazy B1G bias. They looked inept v Michigan… what happened to your recency arguement, your eye test argument, your bad loss argument. Ari’s logic is cray cray.
@iexist14 Tn was a night game on the road after another night game on the road. Ohio St loss was at home to a 3 TD dog. Ohio St should be behind every 2 loss team
@bigkilla2608 Stop pretending that there is parity between conferences. By your logic Army and Louisiana -Lafayette should make the playoffs if they win this week.
The system is flawed. You’re not taking the top 12 teams with Boise State. And Boise State gets to have a top seed and first round bye for winning a sub mediocre conference. They would have a losing record in the SEC.
@rideldelasota8529 So you're all for Army and Louisiana-Lafayette making the CFP if they win this week right? Stop pretending there is parity between the conferences.
Tennessee is #6 in the nation. They should not be dropped 3 spots and made to travel. The two championship games that matter are teams ahead of them. 8 is as far as they should ever drop because of the georgia head to head loss which puts them hosting.
Maybe I just don't get the dynamic here but Andy can be a real douche to Ari. Doesn't let him speak, always interrupts, constantly making it seem like Ari's takes are wrong but any push back from Ari on Andy's takes and Andy has all the excuses in the world.
So Bama beating a team by 2 at home (when Vegas automatically gives the home team 2.5 pts) outweighs the horrid losses to Vandy and Oklahoma who SC beat by 50. Does anyone think bama would beat SC on a neutral field rn?
They also have two wins vs top 15 opponents! South Carolina’s best win is #18 Clemson and Clemson is likely overrated because they’ve beaten 0 ranked teams! Only other teams to have two top 15 wins are Oregon, Ohio State, and Georgia, all are locks for the playoff!
@RollTideRoll_GSP The CFP ranked Clemson #12 when South Carolina beat them. The only reason why there is an opening in the top 12 is due to South Carolina beating Clemson.
Honestly they need to separate the P4 from G5 teams and all P4 conference just send the top 4 teams and see who wins get rid of the popularity contest all together
Right now here is my bracket. 1. Oregon 2. Texas 3. SMU 4. Boise State 5. Penn State vs. 12. Arizona State 6. Notre dame vs. 11. South Carolina 7. Georgia vs. 10. Indiana 8. Tennessee vs. 9. Ohio State Seeding will change slightly after conference Championships. Alabama and Miami will be the first 2 out.
Dude SC isn't better than Miami.! They struggled with a bad Clemson offensive team.! Hey they would probably score some but not more than Miami offensive unit.!
@@damianpresha9833 yep. Just ask FSU about which conference the committee thinks is better. A team that can't beat Syracuse and places behind Clemson should not get in over a team that beat Clemson and has won 6 straight.
@@MS79Canesfan Miami doesn't have a defense. How many near losses has Miami had this season? At least SC didn't need the refs to beat an unranked team...
In what universe should Tennessee be ranked higher than OSU? OSU ranked wins: #3 PSU (7pts) and #9 IU (23 pts 2 weeks ago) OSU losses: #1 Oregon (1pt) and 7-5 Michigan (3pts) TN ranked wins: #11 Alabama (7pts) TN losses: #5 Georgia (14pts) and 6-6 Arkansas (7pts) This fact that anyone is making this argument shows that the SEC bias is alive and stronger than ever
Honestly, if you get blown out by a conference bottom feeder you should be punished. Two of Bamas losses are AWFUL. They lost an entire 28 point lead in less than 2 quarter in one of their “quality” wins. You gotta give that spot to a team that overproduced with less talent, not the other way around.
Yeah I get a lot of flack for the Bama vs Georgia game but what’s more impressive….getting a 28 point lead at home and blowing it, or erasing that lead mostly in the 4th quarter on the road? Yea Bama won on an absolutely INSANE “f it Ryan Williams down there some where” play….but then Georgia marched right down the field and was in scoring distance to win it when Beck and the offensive staff got too greedy with 50 seconds left and two timeouts. Yes Bama got the W on the stat sheet so that has to mean something I guess
@@autonomouspilgrimage6137so you are one of those people who only can perceive one half of perspectives if your opinion is uga first half vs bama was a fluke and the second half was what uga would of done the whole game, the same works for alabama they could say the second half for uga was a fluke and the first half is how they it could of played the whole game
@ you can perceive how you want to, but the fact is bama almost had a falcons Super Bowl melt down and didn’t adjust….same reason they’ve lost the games they have this year because the coaching staff is horrible at making adjustments, even if it’s not working. Yeah you gotta respect the game plan they came in with to do what they did in that first half and mostly first quarter and also winning the game. No you can’t call it a fluke because Bama ran the same offense and defense in the second half and all 22 film shows that. But if you’re going to give Bama credit for that home win, then you have to equally give credit to Georgia for what they were able to do.
@ i give georgia credit for losing there are no moral victories or brownie points for “almost” winning. the only think that matters at the end of a game is did you win or lose
@ yep, they sure did lose didn’t they….Georgia lost and Bama won like they always do versus Georgia. Anybody in charge of the playoffs takes those things into consideration, just like Georgia getting embarrassed by Ole Miss and going to 8 OT’s with GT. I agree with the OP, which I was responding too. Can’t lose to Oklahoma, and vandy and have one of your few quality wins go like that….not sure whoa been streakier this year Bama or Georgia
@@mythiccx7434 doesn’t matter they weren’t at full strength against Mississippi so technically they don’t have the same amount of losses and they didn’t get boat raced by a under 500 Oklahoma team
@@iexist14that’s not how it works man, Alabama has the tie breaker over SC, what do you mean it doesn’t matter?????common man let’s be realistic, SC had the chance to control there own destiny and they didn’t so now it comes down to stuff like this🤷🏾alabama is definitely getting in
@@mythiccx7434 true. I wonder how the committee will see it though. Head to head or who is hot at the right time. Just like FSU last year. They beat everyone they played and still didn’t get it. Also I’m not a fan of either lol. Just my opinion from watching ball every Saturday. I feel like USC is playing really good right now
College Football Tournament Turn the college football playoff into the college football tournament. Expand it to 24 teams and have 8 slots dedicated to a playoff bye. Conferences that have made the four team playoff format have what I call final four rights. If they have 16 or more teams they are guaranteed two playoff spots. If they have less than 16 teams, but still have 8 or more teams; they will be granted 1 playoff spot. To earn final four rights your conference must make the final four in the tournament. If your conference earns final four rights it will gain 1 or 2 guaranteed playoff spots depending on how many teams your conference has. The final four rights will encourage teams to realign to conferences with guaranteed spots. This will help the pac-12 grow and it will eventually open up another conference when they break into the final four. This will help direct conference realignment. The 8 byes are reserved for division winners only. If your conference has more than 16 teams you'll break your conference into two divisions. You can rotate the divisions every year. In the Big Ten there would be 2 nine team divisions. You'd play everyone in your division once, plus one team in the other division. You'd still have 3 games available to schedule a tune up game or a rivalry game. The winner of each division would get the guaranteed playoff spot and possible bye. You could set up the entire Power 4 like this and the Pac-12 could eventually catch up. You'd eliminate conference championships and play the first round the same weekend as conference championship games. The college football committee would select who gets a bye and the final 16-13 spots. The group of five are guaranteed 3 spots if they are ranked. If they win their division or conference they could potentially get a bye. Boise State this year is an example. The first round would be played at neutral sites just like conference championships. The second round would be rewarded to the division winners who received a top 8 seed. They would receive a home playoff game. Every game after that is a neutral field. This would make the season at most 17 games. That's the same amount a sec or big ten champ loser might play this season if they can make a run in the playoffs and make to the championship final.
Realistically if Penn State drops the Big10 champ, ND goes up to the 5 seed. I think even if Texas loses against UGA in the SEC champ. Only way I see someone other than ND being 5 seed is if Penn St. beats Oregon
@@skylernd8323 Exactly. I'm not saying kick them out, just likely they drop below ND. ND has better wins against common opponents, and OSU losing to Michigan makes PSU resume a lot worse.
History proves that it is not a question of "the best team available" with The Committee, it has been who is left from the SEC. They don't care about games played on the field, but their "predictive metrics" - which have built in the regional biases in the mathematics.
Give Indiana’s resume to an Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, Georgia and I guarantee they’re a top 6 seed. No questions asked. Argue with me and you’re naive to the truth.
@@litedawg UGA barely beat GA Tech. Just by “litedawg” you’re blinded. You guys would have had equal opportunity to lose to Michigan, Washington etc. SEC teams love to lose to scrubs, Georgia is no different mr lite dawg
Guy’s, it’s a TV Show! They will put the teams in that will draw the most viewers across the country. It’s not about the best teams or strength of schedule. I was told this from an official source who’s in the know. It’s a business/ money decision like everything else.
Agreed, but where they play is what's important here. What's a better draw, the shoe or Neyland Stadium? There is no comparison, plus they dropped osu below Tennessee in the polls, that should matter.
Mia. lost on the road by a combined 9 points. Both were to damn good offenses. Imo, better than losing at home or getting blown out on the road. If an SEC jumps Mia. it should be SC. Only way Mia. stays in no matter what is if they are ranked 10th. 11th or worse and they have no chance. Skim shot for Mia. to get in.
Hey I'm with you for sure except SC isn't more deserved. If Clemson loses to SMU we should be in period. Yes we have 2 Ls but like you said they were good teams and barely beat us at their home.!
@@MS79Canesfan I don't think SC should be in over Mia. but IF the Committee does put a 3 loss SEC in over Mia. It should be SC because the faced 6 ranked teams and won 3 and a shanked FG cost them a win over Bama at Bama. That's just my logic taking over. If Mia. is ranked 10 after Tuesday then they are in regardless, If they are 11th, SMU needs to win ACCCG. If they are 12 and lower, there is no chance they are in.
@str8street6 unfortunately Miami is still learning and shouldn't have choked that game or either 😕. We knew ESECPN would be favorite even if they are bad.
I think the FPI is pretty accurate. It has Texas as #1 and Oregon like 7. Which I honestly think is accurate for both. Texas is the best team in the country.
The fact that the big 12 gets 1 team in is insane and that team is gonna be the 12 seed. 8 teams went 8-4 or better. The issue is preseason rankings. If Arizona state hadn’t been rated as a previous 3-9 team, they would easily be a top 10 team this year. But they have to overcome last years ratings which makes no sense.
SMU is in. Ranked #8 right now and the committee has guaranteed a loss in the conference championship game will not take away an existing spot in the playoffs.
@@Alan-lv9rw The CFP committee didn't guarantee anything. There is no way an ACC team that loses to Clemson is getting in over an SEC team that beat them. And if you think record is the most important thing to the Committee, just ask FSU how that worked out for them.
One thing that Ari ignores is the concept of the better team. He focuses on a record on a lesser schedule as being more important. He sees the playoffs as a reward, as opposed to a gathering of the best teams. He feels good about this approach, but unfortunately it is not designed to have the overall best team win a championship. A three loss team could easily win the championship this year.
Ohio State should only host if they had gone to the conference championship and lost. They would not get the bye, next thing would be to host. But since they didn’t get to the conference championship, they should be on the road in round 1.
I would rather see any of the ACC teams in their over a team with 3 regular season games. I’m a huge VOLS fan and I said all week if we lose we don’t deserve to be in the playoff no team with 3 regular season losses deserves to be there
Best team vs most deserving varies per team. Use the BCS formula or multiple formulas then take the average BUT this isn't about the best or most deserving.
The committee hands down doesn’t watch as much football as most enthusiasts, let alone people working in alternative media. They aren’t watching west coast football out there on the east coast and everyone has known that for years.
Strength of schedule is the worst way to compare IU and SMU because both are bad if you remove the game they lost. The fact that IU is only 1 above SMU for SOR, while OSU is vastly better than BYU, means that stats value SMU’s wins a lot more
Ari's argument is for weak schedules and who you beat doesnt matter but who you lose to does. If we want watered down regular seasons, then sure, lets view who should be in on Ari's perspective. Clemson, the team he is championing lost to two SEC teams that Alabama and Ole Miss beat. The goal is to get the vest teams in with a blend of deserving. The people who complain about a 2 loss ACC team should get in over a 3 loss SEC team are given their space with an auto bid by winning their conference. The question should be around Alabama or Ole Miss if we want college football schedules to have good teams against good teams during the regular season
I totally agree with Ari.. it's rigged! We need to play the best teams against each other...period..... It shouldn't matter one bit where the teams are from. If you don't perform well, you don't play. And oh by the way, teams that might be new to the party this year and have won 10 or more games, mad respect to you! With Georgia techs performance Friday night alone against "magical, untouchable Georgia", I say replace Alabama with them, mix this shit up, and let's have some fun! Side note....GBO 🍊
Michigan since the 2nd H against IU several wks ago, is a top 12 team in America - as they were ranked earlier in September! Do your homework. Georgia should have to play IU in Bloomington - c'mon!
Any logic stating that osu deserves a home game in the playoffs is void. They lost late, it has always mattered. They do not deserve to be rewarded for failure, plus by this line up if bama and arizona st. have to go north then osu and indiana should have to go south
SMU should be number 4 and Arizona State should be at number 3! There should also be fewer SEC and Big 10 teams in the mix due to a lack of competitiveness in the SEC and Big 10 among its member schools.
If Clemson wins and ASU wins, ASU should get the 4 seed, Clemson would be 11. Then the question is whether Alabama, SC, or SMU is 12. But if that happens, the committee will slot Clemson 12 and Bama 11. But I think it should slot Clemson 12 and SC 11.
@@DoubleGBros an SEC team losing to an SEC team is nothing special ND loss was worse it was one of the all time upsets in college football when it comes to spreads
No way that SC or Bama deserve to be in period!! They will get in because the playoff committee is a bunch of SEC Homers and can’t stand the thought that the Big10 will have more teams in than them smh!! SMU will destroy Miami!!
South Carolina beat Oklahoma and Vanderbilt- Bama lost to both Lanorris Sellers was playing with a sprained ankle vs. Alabama and Alabama only won by 2 at home. If South Carolina played Alabama right now they would be the clear favorites
If penn st loses they will still be the 5th seed what are we doing? the only other team would be texas if they lose the sec championship georgia will not be the 5th seed if they lose.
If IU is a lock, why is SMU not a lock? Both 11-1 and SMU will be ranked higher than them this week. Because they made a conference championship game? Make that make sense to me
Ole Miss has three losses by a total of 13 points. Bama took a three touchdown loss to Oklahoma, and South Carolina got blown out at home by Ole Miss. I dont think the Rebs will get in, but they should. Orrr, just go back to four teams because none of them belong in.
It can with SC it’s literally their redshirt freshman QB becoming more comfortable and the game slowing down for him. He only threw 4 passes last year. Other than that the defense has been balling all year.
who has the worst loss? NIU vs Notre Dame -28.5 Oklahoma vs Alabama -22.5 Ohio State vs Michigan -20.5 Ole Miss vs Kentucky -15.5 Oklahoma vs Alabama -14.5 Arkansas vs Tennessee -14.5 SMU vs BYU -12.5
Honestly should just keep three loss teams out unless the third comes in a close conference championship. Keep Miami in there at the 11 spot. You’d still get three sec teams in there and it would be a wild playoff. Should also pin different leagues against each other in that first round. Nobody wants to see big 10 vs big 10 or sec vs sec in that first round
😂ASU was 16th last week, now 12th for some unknown reason after blowing out a terrible team. How terrible? That team has 8 losses and only 4 wins. The 4 wins were against teams with losing records and one mid FCS team. (Mind you, ASU has a loss to a team that has 8 losses, and one loss to a team with 4 losses, and barely beat an FCS team, and many close wins over teams with losing records.). Then you have South Carolina, [SEC] that was 15th last week, one spot ahead of ASU. They defeat the 12th ranked team this week and get jumped by ASU. OK…but the #6 team loses to a top 25 Syracuse team, and they fall all the way down to right below ASU, and SC, cause they don’t want to make it look as obvious. * *Note that the SEC already has a bye spot, they can’t have 2. This is why they’re letting ASU jump SC, even though it’s 100% wrong. Same reason Miami moved down below them, of course. ***This is not for sure that BSU misses out on the bye, but i think they’re doing everything possible to make it a pathway to happen. BSU would have to have a close win, (which they likely would, if they do win. UNLV is underrated with only losing to Syracuse because of the refs, and BSU...and the teams know each other well, it will likely be close.). and if ASU happens to win by a couple scores.... PS….this will be first time ASU and Iowa St play, in their conf championship game. Iowa is ranked 16th… but has losses to an 8 loss team and 4 loss team, and no ranked wins. And that’s not all…of their 12 games played only 3 had winning D1 records and 2 were FCS teams…..and one of the FCS teams they beat 21-3, has a 5-7 record. (All against FCS teams besides Iowa State game.)
Yes, the Canes losses were bad but Notre Dame loses at home to northern Illinois and they don't compete in a conference title game but still get into the playoffs?.
A 10-2 Miami significantly beat a Florida team that 9-3 Ole Miss lost to. A 9-3 Alabama lost to a 6-6 Vanderbilt and basically got stomped and almost shut out by 6-6 Oklahoma team. Both of Miami's losses are by a touchdown or less to a GT team that was robbed out of a win against Georgia who they took to 8 OT's, and the 9 -3 Syracuse team. I personally believe Miami should take that last spot.
That’s some of the dumbest transitive property nonsense I’ve ever seen in my life lol What’s Miamis best win? What’s their best loss? Also if we wanna use these moronic “what ifs”, how many times was Miami saved by refs this season in games against terrible opponents?
@@autonomouspilgrimage6137Miami has less losses and better losses. Pretty simple and the CFP has painted themselves in a corner. If SMU wins the ACCCG then Miami gets in
@ Miami hasn’t beaten a ranked team and they lost to an unranked team and a team that just got in the top 25 for beating Miami….and have struggled to beat a lot of the teams far inferior to them.
@@autonomouspilgrimage6137 transitive property nonsense? Moronic? Even though the committee uses a number of metrics. So you immediately combat my argument by being offensive and disrespectful. That alone says a lot about you and your argument. Miami wasn't saved by any of the refs on the contrary Miami's had to go up against horrible ACC officiating. One could say the same GTech versus Georgia. I will admit that Miami's defense is horrendous but the record at the end of the day is better than Alabama's & Ole Miss. And their losses are to better teams
@ Miami hasn’t had a single blowout loss. SC and Bama do. More quality losses, and plenty of quality wins (6 bowl eligible teams). The CFP has already mentioned they value close losses which Miami has better losses than both the teams you mentioned.
12 team playoff just added more wailing and gnashing of teeth. Thats all. Pandora's Box got opened a long time ago bud. FSU last year. Putting TCU in the least watched CFB championship game before that. We tried the most "deserving" nonsense, failed miserably. The list goes on and on. Its $$$. ITS THE 12 BEST TEAMS. Don't you get it? People crying, whigning and arguing is simply more eyeballs at the end of the day. Apparently yall have never walked the yellow brick road and pulled back the curtain to see the goblin working the levers of power. Bama is in. Let the hate flow like a raging river. In the end, you'll still tune in and they Know This.
Feel bad for SC I think they the hottest team at 9-3 group. Ole Miss and Bama just had recent losses forget about the H2H matchups ots about how are you playing NOW. SC juat beat a RANKED team they should get in.
SMU and Boise State that high is complete absurdity.
Smu has no business in the tournament!
Lord you SEC homers are insufferable
I'm a Notre Dame fan, and i think SMU is pretty good honestly. They've been impressive. Would rather play Indiana or Clemson than them.
@@GMS8201Clemson has a better D by far than SMU. I think SMU is the weaker of the 2
I don’t think you understand how this works.
Flip UT and Ohio St. That loss was egregious. Ohio St is just lucky that last week happened
Amazing how the H2H matters now, but didn't when Tennessee had the win over Alabama... or lets not forget when vandy had the H2H either against Bama with the same record. Amazing how its pick and chose how to get Alabama in any way possible. Sometimes those logos just mean more.
When Tennessee had the win over Alabama Alabama beat Georgia and Georgia beat Tennessee. It's not fair any way you put it because its a circle. If they put bama ahead of tennessee its not fair because tennessee beat them. Putting tennessee above bama doesn't work either because bama beat georgia and georgia beat tennessee.
H2H didn’t matter with Bama v. Tenn because Bama beat UGA and UGA beat Tenn. It’s a triangle of teams that beat each other so H2H washes out. Bama was ranked higher because their SOS & SOR were better than Tenn, and UGA had just lost big to Ole Miss. Whatever arg you’re trying to make ab Vandy is ridiculous and truly doesn’t deserve a response if you know ball.
Look who's doing the "but but but" game now. Thought H2H was the only thing that mattered. 🤔
Or when they had SMU over BYU
Had to not matttet for someone in that circle of who beat who. But that context doesn’t fit your narrative
Ohio State in Neyland is the game you want.
Having Ohio St above Tenn is some crazy B1G bias. They looked inept v Michigan… what happened to your recency arguement, your eye test argument, your bad loss argument. Ari’s logic is cray cray.
@@Fedgolfer almost as anept as Tennessee looked against Arkansas.
@@iexist14one game was played week 6 the other week 14. The recency of the Michigan loss hurts more than Tennessee's loss 8 weeks ago to Arkansas.
@ no matter if you guys play us, it’ll be in Columbus pack your coat
Won two top 5 match ups and1 point loss on road to Oregon , Tennessee biggest what over big bad 3 loss Alabama.
@iexist14 Tn was a night game on the road after another night game on the road. Ohio St loss was at home to a 3 TD dog. Ohio St should be behind every 2 loss team
Unless you win your conference Championship you should not be in the playoffs with three losses
@bigkilla2608 Stop pretending that there is parity between conferences. By your logic Army and Louisiana -Lafayette should make the playoffs if they win this week.
yeah Big 10 bias is crazy this year. Ohio State losing at home to Michigan this week is far worse than losing to Arkansas at Arkansas in early october
Losing by 14 at Georgia is also worse than losing by 1 at Oregon
@@Braeden.F bad outweighs the good.
@@alms07 Tennessee is trash.
@@alms07 not sure that it does. But either way we'll likely get an OSU v Tennessee matchup!
Ohio State should have to go on the road in the playoffs
"Indiana has worse wins."
"Name the wins."
"Uhhh...."
All of them except Michigan are teams that most teams will beat easily. Their schedule was a joke.
Not a great discussion. Just started talking about Alabama 10s in with no introduction, and talked about them the whole time.
The system is flawed. You’re not taking the top 12 teams with Boise State. And Boise State gets to have a top seed and first round bye for winning a sub mediocre conference. They would have a losing record in the SEC.
Thats your problem the SEC not the only conference in college football. And the SEC trash if you haven't paid attention.
These guys hate doing this show together 😂
Can’t allow 3 loss teams in the playoffs. It opens the door too all kinds of controversy.
They might not have an option
Georgia lose they still in
@rideldelasota8529 So you're all for Army and Louisiana-Lafayette making the CFP if they win this week right? Stop pretending there is parity between the conferences.
OSU over Tennessee is laughable. It's when you lose or it always has been( see Georgia last year).
This a 12 team field not 4 wrong mindset.
People wanna say who is playing hot right now when it benefits them lol but when it comes to head to head they don’t wanna hear it now
There is no way Texas is playing Georgia for a third time.
Tennessee is #6 in the nation. They should not be dropped 3 spots and made to travel. The two championship games that matter are teams ahead of them. 8 is as far as they should ever drop because of the georgia head to head loss which puts them hosting.
Maybe I just don't get the dynamic here but Andy can be a real douche to Ari. Doesn't let him speak, always interrupts, constantly making it seem like Ari's takes are wrong but any push back from Ari on Andy's takes and Andy has all the excuses in the world.
You can do that when you're RIGHT. Got it?
That's pretty much what I got out of it. First time watching this show though.
So Bama beating a team by 2 at home (when Vegas automatically gives the home team 2.5 pts) outweighs the horrid losses to Vandy and Oklahoma who SC beat by 50. Does anyone think bama would beat SC on a neutral field rn?
Head to Head -no- do-overs in college football
I literally watched this Alabama team beat this South Carolina team, so yes, I do. Based on extremely recent example
Yes. I'm a Tennessee fan and think Bama would beat SC.
@@stevescott3735 well let's not forget LSU. They beat SC at home and Bama boat raced them in their house.
@ they kinda did didn’t they 🤷♂️ - it all boils down to SMU 🤦🏼♂️
OSU should drop below TN. TN losses were on the road. OSU lost to M at home. That is a worse loss.
Get Bama out of that bracket. They don't belong there. Two losses to two bad teams.
Really!😅😅😅😅
They also have two wins vs top 15 opponents! South Carolina’s best win is #18 Clemson and Clemson is likely overrated because they’ve beaten 0 ranked teams! Only other teams to have two top 15 wins are Oregon, Ohio State, and Georgia, all are locks for the playoff!
@RollTideRoll_GSP The CFP ranked Clemson #12 when South Carolina beat them. The only reason why there is an opening in the top 12 is due to South Carolina beating Clemson.
Honestly they need to separate the P4 from G5 teams and all P4 conference just send the top 4 teams and see who wins get rid of the popularity contest all together
Right now here is my bracket.
1. Oregon
2. Texas
3. SMU
4. Boise State
5. Penn State vs. 12. Arizona State
6. Notre dame vs. 11. South Carolina
7. Georgia vs. 10. Indiana
8. Tennessee vs. 9. Ohio State
Seeding will change slightly after conference Championships. Alabama and Miami will be the first 2 out.
So you taking a 6th place SEC team over a 3rd place ACC team got it.
Dude SC isn't better than Miami.! They struggled with a bad Clemson offensive team.! Hey they would probably score some but not more than Miami offensive unit.!
@@hunterrobin9929 100% agree
@@damianpresha9833 yep. Just ask FSU about which conference the committee thinks is better. A team that can't beat Syracuse and places behind Clemson should not get in over a team that beat Clemson and has won 6 straight.
@@MS79Canesfan Miami doesn't have a defense. How many near losses has Miami had this season? At least SC didn't need the refs to beat an unranked team...
In what universe should Tennessee be ranked higher than OSU?
OSU ranked wins: #3 PSU (7pts) and #9 IU (23 pts 2 weeks ago)
OSU losses: #1 Oregon (1pt) and 7-5 Michigan (3pts)
TN ranked wins: #11 Alabama (7pts)
TN losses: #5 Georgia (14pts) and 6-6 Arkansas (7pts)
This fact that anyone is making this argument shows that the SEC bias is alive and stronger than ever
The Michigan loss is pathetic and should be viewed as such.
@@litedawgthe loss to 6&6 Arkansas is pathetic too. You didn't even notice. You're biased to the SEC too.
@@timothyhingham3672 Arkansas wouid beat 80% of the Big 10 teams. The Big 10 is a glorified high school league
I hope there are not a lot of intra conference matchups in the playoff. I want to see good teams playing other conferences’ good teams.
Honestly, if you get blown out by a conference bottom feeder you should be punished. Two of Bamas losses are AWFUL. They lost an entire 28 point lead in less than 2 quarter in one of their “quality” wins. You gotta give that spot to a team that overproduced with less talent, not the other way around.
Yeah I get a lot of flack for the Bama vs Georgia game but what’s more impressive….getting a 28 point lead at home and blowing it, or erasing that lead mostly in the 4th quarter on the road?
Yea Bama won on an absolutely INSANE “f it Ryan Williams down there some where” play….but then Georgia marched right down the field and was in scoring distance to win it when Beck and the offensive staff got too greedy with 50 seconds left and two timeouts.
Yes Bama got the W on the stat sheet so that has to mean something I guess
@@autonomouspilgrimage6137so you are one of those people who only can perceive one half of perspectives
if your opinion is uga first half vs bama was a fluke and the second half was what uga would of done the whole game,
the same works for alabama
they could say the second half for uga was a fluke and the first half is how they it could of played the whole game
@ you can perceive how you want to, but the fact is bama almost had a falcons Super Bowl melt down and didn’t adjust….same reason they’ve lost the games they have this year because the coaching staff is horrible at making adjustments, even if it’s not working. Yeah you gotta respect the game plan they came in with to do what they did in that first half and mostly first quarter and also winning the game.
No you can’t call it a fluke because Bama ran the same offense and defense in the second half and all 22 film shows that.
But if you’re going to give Bama credit for that home win, then you have to equally give credit to Georgia for what they were able to do.
@ i give georgia credit for losing
there are no moral victories
or brownie points for “almost” winning.
the only think that matters at the end of a game is did you win or lose
@ yep, they sure did lose didn’t they….Georgia lost and Bama won like they always do versus Georgia. Anybody in charge of the playoffs takes those things into consideration, just like Georgia getting embarrassed by Ole Miss and going to 8 OT’s with GT.
I agree with the OP, which I was responding too. Can’t lose to Oklahoma, and vandy and have one of your few quality wins go like that….not sure whoa been streakier this year Bama or Georgia
Ohio st lost at home while being favored by 3 touchdowns. Tennessee lost to Arkansas on the road. Ohio state has the worst loss.
No way Bama deserves to be there over South Carolina
Who won the game lil bro
@@mythiccx7434 doesn’t matter they weren’t at full strength against Mississippi so technically they don’t have the same amount of losses and they didn’t get boat raced by a under 500 Oklahoma team
@@iexist14that’s not how it works man, Alabama has the tie breaker over SC, what do you mean it doesn’t matter?????common man let’s be realistic, SC had the chance to control there own destiny and they didn’t so now it comes down to stuff like this🤷🏾alabama is definitely getting in
SC wins at home.
@@mythiccx7434 true. I wonder how the committee will see it though. Head to head or who is hot at the right time. Just like FSU last year. They beat everyone they played and still didn’t get it.
Also I’m not a fan of either lol. Just my opinion from watching ball every Saturday. I feel like USC is playing really good right now
College Football Tournament
Turn the college football playoff into the college football tournament. Expand it to 24 teams and have 8 slots dedicated to a playoff bye. Conferences that have made the four team playoff format have what I call final four rights. If they have 16 or more teams they are guaranteed two playoff spots. If they have less than 16 teams, but still have 8 or more teams; they will be granted 1 playoff spot. To earn final four rights your conference must make the final four in the tournament. If your conference earns final four rights it will gain 1 or 2 guaranteed playoff spots depending on how many teams your conference has.
The final four rights will encourage teams to realign to conferences with guaranteed spots. This will help the pac-12 grow and it will eventually open up another conference when they break into the final four. This will help direct conference realignment.
The 8 byes are reserved for division winners only. If your conference has more than 16 teams you'll break your conference into two divisions. You can rotate the divisions every year. In the Big Ten there would be 2 nine team divisions. You'd play everyone in your division once, plus one team in the other division. You'd still have 3 games available to schedule a tune up game or a rivalry game. The winner of each division would get the guaranteed playoff spot and possible bye. You could set up the entire Power 4 like this and the Pac-12 could eventually catch up. You'd eliminate conference championships and play the first round the same weekend as conference championship games. The college football committee would select who gets a bye and the final 16-13 spots. The group of five are guaranteed 3 spots if they are ranked. If they win their division or conference they could potentially get a bye. Boise State this year is an example. The first round would be played at neutral sites just like conference championships. The second round would be rewarded to the division winners who received a top 8 seed. They would receive a home playoff game. Every game after that is a neutral field. This would make the season at most 17 games. That's the same amount a sec or big ten champ loser might play this season if they can make a run in the playoffs and make to the championship final.
Realistically if Penn State drops the Big10 champ, ND goes up to the 5 seed. I think even if Texas loses against UGA in the SEC champ. Only way I see someone other than ND being 5 seed is if Penn St. beats Oregon
How can you penalize psu for losing a CCG while ND sits at home. Losses to oregon and osu is better than a loss to northern illinois
Calm down bro. If penn state gets smacked by Oregon they will fall to 6. If its competitive with oregon then they will be at 5@@RodneyBost-gw6eo
@@skylernd8323 Exactly. I'm not saying kick them out, just likely they drop below ND. ND has better wins against common opponents, and OSU losing to Michigan makes PSU resume a lot worse.
They really want that Bama at ND 6-11 game for TV. Almighty Alabama going north of the Mason Dixon line in December!! Are you kidding me? $$$$$$
Preach it!!
As an ND fan I like our odds
@@Jay-pd9kc Bear never beat Ara! Gotta wake up the echoes.
Happy for SMU coming back after the death penalty.
That was almost 40 years ago. They've had time to rebound
Don't think Bama makes it......3 losses??? Come 9n now.
History proves that it is not a question of "the best team available" with The Committee, it has been who is left from the SEC. They don't care about games played on the field, but their "predictive metrics" - which have built in the regional biases in the mathematics.
Anyone else pick up the tension in this video 😂
If there weren’t pre season rankings, this list would look much different
Give Indiana’s resume to an Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, Georgia and I guarantee they’re a top 6 seed. No questions asked. Argue with me and you’re naive to the truth.
Preach!!
And looking at your username I wouid say you might be blinded too.
@@litedawg tell me how what I just said is incorrect lol
@@Hoosiers12345 Indianas strength of schedule is ridiculous. UGA and others wouid go 12-0 w their 2nd string.
@@litedawg UGA barely beat GA Tech. Just by “litedawg” you’re blinded. You guys would have had equal opportunity to lose to Michigan, Washington etc. SEC teams love to lose to scrubs, Georgia is no different mr lite dawg
2 losses in the big ten is equal to 3 losses in the SEC if ole miss is out Ohio State should be out too
ND/Bama in that Friday night game would be too much for the CFP committee to resist.
Guy’s, it’s a TV Show! They will put the teams in that will draw the most viewers across the country. It’s not about the best teams or strength of schedule. I was told this from an official source who’s in the know. It’s a business/ money decision like everything else.
Agreed, but where they play is what's important here. What's a better draw, the shoe or Neyland Stadium? There is no comparison, plus they dropped osu below Tennessee in the polls, that should matter.
Saban is gone, BAMA different now
All they see is Red/White
Mia. lost on the road by a combined 9 points. Both were to damn good offenses. Imo, better than losing at home or getting blown out on the road. If an SEC jumps Mia. it should be SC. Only way Mia. stays in no matter what is if they are ranked 10th. 11th or worse and they have no chance. Skim shot for Mia. to get in.
Hey I'm with you for sure except SC isn't more deserved. If Clemson loses to SMU we should be in period. Yes we have 2 Ls but like you said they were good teams and barely beat us at their home.!
@@MS79Canesfan I don't think SC should be in over Mia. but IF the Committee does put a 3 loss SEC in over Mia. It should be SC because the faced 6 ranked teams and won 3 and a shanked FG cost them a win over Bama at Bama. That's just my logic taking over. If Mia. is ranked 10 after Tuesday then they are in regardless, If they are 11th, SMU needs to win ACCCG. If they are 12 and lower, there is no chance they are in.
@str8street6 unfortunately Miami is still learning and shouldn't have choked that game or either 😕. We knew ESECPN would be favorite even if they are bad.
I think the FPI is pretty accurate.
It has Texas as #1 and Oregon like 7.
Which I honestly think is accurate for both. Texas is the best team in the country.
The fact that the big 12 gets 1 team in is insane and that team is gonna be the 12 seed. 8 teams went 8-4 or better. The issue is preseason rankings. If Arizona state hadn’t been rated as a previous 3-9 team, they would easily be a top 10 team this year. But they have to overcome last years ratings which makes no sense.
SMU is in. Ranked #8 right now and the committee has guaranteed a loss in the conference championship game will not take away an existing spot in the playoffs.
Yep 11-2 over 9-3
@@Alan-lv9rw The CFP committee didn't guarantee anything. There is no way an ACC team that loses to Clemson is getting in over an SEC team that beat them. And if you think record is the most important thing to the Committee, just ask FSU how that worked out for them.
Stop Bama don't deserve in
Miami in over all them there 10-2 games have to matter
One thing that Ari ignores is the concept of the better team. He focuses on a record on a lesser schedule as being more important. He sees the playoffs as a reward, as opposed to a gathering of the best teams. He feels good about this approach, but unfortunately it is not designed to have the overall best team win a championship. A three loss team could easily win the championship this year.
Ohio State should only host if they had gone to the conference championship and lost. They would not get the bye, next thing would be to host. But since they didn’t get to the conference championship, they should be on the road in round 1.
I would rather see any of the ACC teams in their over a team with 3 regular season games. I’m a huge VOLS fan and I said all week if we lose we don’t deserve to be in the playoff no team with 3 regular season losses deserves to be there
You realize this is relying on Texas beating UGA in a rematch and setting up a tre-match in the second round. 😂😂😂
Ari and Andy seem really tense
Crazy that SMU and Boise could get Byes. Gotta fix this next year.
Bama should not be in. That lose to OU is bad.
The best and hardest game will be 8 vs 9 Ohio State vs Tennessee. Home team should win.
Best team vs most deserving varies per team. Use the BCS formula or multiple formulas then take the average BUT this isn't about the best or most deserving.
Well I'm glad it's not your bracket cause IU is in.
The committee hands down doesn’t watch as much football as most enthusiasts, let alone people working in alternative media. They aren’t watching west coast football out there on the east coast and everyone has known that for years.
They aren't watching anything but the Big 10 this year.
If recency matters, SMU looks great. Their only loss was by 3 against BYU in early September, before SMU had its QB.
Strength of schedule is the worst way to compare IU and SMU because both are bad if you remove the game they lost. The fact that IU is only 1 above SMU for SOR, while OSU is vastly better than BYU, means that stats value SMU’s wins a lot more
there’s no way they take smu out with a loss with the oklahoma loss from bama
Good discussion. Just shows how crazy this season has been and how difficult the playoff rankings are to make.
So by your own logic you are wanting a TCU and Georgia type game 😂😂😂
Ari's argument is for weak schedules and who you beat doesnt matter but who you lose to does. If we want watered down regular seasons, then sure, lets view who should be in on Ari's perspective.
Clemson, the team he is championing lost to two SEC teams that Alabama and Ole Miss beat.
The goal is to get the vest teams in with a blend of deserving. The people who complain about a 2 loss ACC team should get in over a 3 loss SEC team are given their space with an auto bid by winning their conference.
The question should be around Alabama or Ole Miss if we want college football schedules to have good teams against good teams during the regular season
Sec fan here I believe the the SEC might be over rated Very deep but any of the teams can be beaten Look at Ga Tech va Uga
I totally agree with Ari.. it's rigged! We need to play the best teams against each other...period..... It shouldn't matter one bit where the teams are from. If you don't perform well, you don't play. And oh by the way, teams that might be new to the party this year and have won 10 or more games, mad respect to you! With Georgia techs performance Friday night alone against "magical, untouchable Georgia", I say replace Alabama with them, mix this shit up, and let's have some fun! Side note....GBO 🍊
Michigan since the 2nd H against IU several wks ago, is a top 12 team in America - as they were ranked earlier in September! Do your homework. Georgia should have to play IU in Bloomington - c'mon!
I hope Texas and Georgia don't meet a 3rd time in 2nd round, maybe semifinal or final would be better.
IU staying at 10 is ridiculous
100%. They should be above notre dame and maybe Tennessee
Someone please tell me why anyone thinks PSU is any better than IU! By what standard?
@ they’re not man. Give our resume to a more historically successful program. They’re a top 6 seed all day
@@chuckcribbs3398I don’t think Penn St couid beat anyone good . They are a fraud.
@@Hoosiers12345 Notre dame shouldn’t be in bc they play no one, and Indiana shouldn’t be ranked😂
Bama is in ….the only ppl arguing is other fan bases …coaches poll and AP got it right ….this is just fans hating Bama
Oregon and Penn st both have positives.. if oregon wins then they got 1st round off if they lose then they play Arizona st then Boise st.
Clemson wins, and put Boise in the 3rd seed and watch everyone freak out! Plus Penn State drops a spot when they lose... ND gets 5th seed!
Any logic stating that osu deserves a home game in the playoffs is void. They lost late, it has always mattered. They do not deserve to be rewarded for failure, plus by this line up if bama and arizona st. have to go north then osu and indiana should have to go south
Rolllll Tide!!!! 🎊 🎉🏈 Alabama vs. Notre Dame would be an awesome matchup.
SMU should be number 4 and Arizona State should be at number 3! There should also be fewer SEC and Big 10 teams in the mix due to a lack of competitiveness in the SEC and Big 10 among its member schools.
If Clemson wins and ASU wins, ASU should get the 4 seed, Clemson would be 11. Then the question is whether Alabama, SC, or SMU is 12. But if that happens, the committee will slot Clemson 12 and Bama 11. But I think it should slot Clemson 12 and SC 11.
Northern Illinois is the worst loss!! Wtf?
it is, without a doubt
losing to a school that’s barely fbs at home is absolutely the worst lost
@@wealthyfuture999Vanderbilt? lol bro is delusional
@@DoubleGBros an SEC team losing to an SEC team is nothing special
ND loss was worse
it was one of the all time upsets in college football when it comes to spreads
@@DoubleGBros ohio state losing to michigan with a 20 million dollar roster might even be considered worse
Tennessee is ranked ahead of Ohio State how do they get the home game ahead of Tennessee?? Please explain.😮
Top 12 ranked teams should make ...make it simple
No way that SC or Bama deserve to be in period!! They will get in because the playoff committee is a bunch of SEC Homers and can’t stand the thought that the Big10 will have more teams in than them smh!! SMU will destroy Miami!!
SC v Bama debate is ridiculous. There’s a head-to-head to erase debate. Ain’t no bama fan, either. I’d love to see them OUT!
Bama losses are much worse than SC though.
A 20 point loss to oklahoma should hold much more weight than a 2 point head to head loss
Shouldn't matter they played and have same records. I'd love for Bama to miss out but games played against each other have to matter.
As a Tennessee fan I love seeing Bama out, but I would put them above S Car as well.
South Carolina beat Oklahoma and Vanderbilt- Bama lost to both Lanorris Sellers was playing with a sprained ankle vs. Alabama and Alabama only won by 2 at home. If South Carolina played Alabama right now they would be the clear favorites
If penn st loses they will still be the 5th seed what are we doing? the only other team would be texas if they lose the sec championship georgia will not be the 5th seed if they lose.
Ari is right here. Andy is wrong. SMU is in.
If the committee ranks SMU as 7th, they will not be left out for losing the CCG.
If IU is a lock, why is SMU not a lock? Both 11-1 and SMU will be ranked higher than them this week. Because they made a conference championship game? Make that make sense to me
Cause every media member hate the ACC
Ole Miss has three losses by a total of 13 points. Bama took a three touchdown loss to Oklahoma, and South Carolina got blown out at home by Ole Miss. I dont think the Rebs will get in, but they should. Orrr, just go back to four teams because none of them belong in.
Ole Miss would lose to Alabama like they always do. 😂
Does “hottest” team matter a few weeks from now after not playing ?
It can with SC it’s literally their redshirt freshman QB becoming more comfortable and the game slowing down for him. He only threw 4 passes last year. Other than that the defense has been balling all year.
@@Cmaneditz we’ll have to see 3 weeks is a long time to try to carry momentum from a win. In addition to most likely being on the road.
who has the worst loss?
NIU vs Notre Dame -28.5
Oklahoma vs Alabama -22.5
Ohio State vs Michigan -20.5
Ole Miss vs Kentucky -15.5
Oklahoma vs Alabama -14.5
Arkansas vs Tennessee -14.5
SMU vs BYU -12.5
*Vandy vs Alabama -22.5
@@_ccrosshe didn’t wanna insert that one lmao
@@DoubleGBros I just missed typed that one. I put Oklahoma twice.
Have you seen SMU play?I agree South Carolina is the best.
Honestly should just keep three loss teams out unless the third comes in a close conference championship. Keep Miami in there at the 11 spot. You’d still get three sec teams in there and it would be a wild playoff. Should also pin different leagues against each other in that first round. Nobody wants to see big 10 vs big 10 or sec vs sec in that first round
Miami sucks though and so does their coach.
South Carolina ain’t ready. Overhyped. Ole Miss is better
😂ASU was 16th last week, now 12th for some unknown reason after blowing out a terrible team. How terrible? That team has 8 losses and only 4 wins. The 4 wins were against teams with losing records and one mid FCS team. (Mind you, ASU has a loss to a team that has 8 losses, and one loss to a team with 4 losses, and barely beat an FCS team, and many close wins over teams with losing records.). Then you have South Carolina, [SEC] that was 15th last week, one spot ahead of ASU. They defeat the 12th ranked team this week and get jumped by ASU. OK…but the #6 team loses to a top 25 Syracuse team, and they fall all the way down to right below ASU, and SC, cause they don’t want to make it look as obvious. * *Note that the SEC already has a bye spot, they can’t have 2. This is why they’re letting ASU jump SC, even though it’s 100% wrong. Same reason Miami moved down below them, of course. ***This is not for sure that BSU misses out on the bye, but i think they’re doing everything possible to make it a pathway to happen. BSU would have to have a close win, (which they likely would, if they do win. UNLV is underrated with only losing to Syracuse because of the refs, and BSU...and the teams know each other well, it will likely be close.). and if ASU happens to win by a couple scores....
PS….this will be first time ASU and Iowa St play, in their conf championship game. Iowa is ranked 16th… but has losses to an 8 loss team and 4 loss team, and no ranked wins. And that’s not all…of their 12 games played only 3 had winning D1 records and 2 were FCS teams…..and one of the FCS teams they beat 21-3, has a 5-7 record. (All against FCS teams besides Iowa State game.)
Is that a microwave under that TV? 😂 SCO DUCKS
They're in a hotel room, genius.
If ohio state gets a higher seed than TN , that is insane bias
SMU is 100% in
Everyone is talking Lanoris Sellers , little not, Clemson for some dumb reason took Sammy Brown out of the game in the 4th Quarter.
Yes, the Canes losses were bad but Notre Dame loses at home to northern Illinois and they don't compete in a conference title game but still get into the playoffs?.
You are correct as everyone except one team this year has lost a game they shouldn’t have lost.
A 10-2 Miami significantly beat a Florida team that 9-3 Ole Miss lost to. A 9-3 Alabama lost to a 6-6 Vanderbilt and basically got stomped and almost shut out by 6-6 Oklahoma team. Both of Miami's losses are by a touchdown or less to a GT team that was robbed out of a win against Georgia who they took to 8 OT's, and the 9 -3 Syracuse team. I personally believe Miami should take that last spot.
That’s some of the dumbest transitive property nonsense I’ve ever seen in my life lol
What’s Miamis best win? What’s their best loss? Also if we wanna use these moronic “what ifs”, how many times was Miami saved by refs this season in games against terrible opponents?
@@autonomouspilgrimage6137Miami has less losses and better losses. Pretty simple and the CFP has painted themselves in a corner. If SMU wins the ACCCG then Miami gets in
@ Miami hasn’t beaten a ranked team and they lost to an unranked team and a team that just got in the top 25 for beating Miami….and have struggled to beat a lot of the teams far inferior to them.
@@autonomouspilgrimage6137 transitive property nonsense? Moronic? Even though the committee uses a number of metrics. So you immediately combat my argument by being offensive and disrespectful. That alone says a lot about you and your argument. Miami wasn't saved by any of the refs on the contrary Miami's had to go up against horrible ACC officiating. One could say the same GTech versus Georgia. I will admit that Miami's defense is horrendous but the record at the end of the day is better than Alabama's & Ole Miss. And their losses are to better teams
@ Miami hasn’t had a single blowout loss. SC and Bama do. More quality losses, and plenty of quality wins (6 bowl eligible teams). The CFP has already mentioned they value close losses which Miami has better losses than both the teams you mentioned.
12 team playoff just added more wailing and gnashing of teeth. Thats all. Pandora's Box got opened a long time ago bud. FSU last year. Putting TCU in the least watched CFB championship game before that. We tried the most "deserving" nonsense, failed miserably. The list goes on and on. Its $$$. ITS THE 12 BEST TEAMS. Don't you get it? People crying, whigning and arguing is simply more eyeballs at the end of the day. Apparently yall have never walked the yellow brick road and pulled back the curtain to see the goblin working the levers of power. Bama is in. Let the hate flow like a raging river. In the end, you'll still tune in and they Know This.
Feel bad for SC I think they the hottest team at 9-3 group. Ole Miss and Bama just had recent losses forget about the H2H matchups ots about how are you playing NOW. SC juat beat a RANKED team they should get in.
Yall crack heads be making up new rules & shit to do anything to get south Carolina over ole miss & alabama. H2H matters , dipshit.
South Carolina > Oklahoma > Alabama & South Carolina > Vanderbilt > Alabama
Judging from the microwave I bet the water pressure in that shower sucks