Have You Heard of the Black 5's Little Brother? | Bachmann Stanier Mogul | Unboxing & Review

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  • @LBSC70
    @LBSC70 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    I've never heard of this engine and yet it's class is preserved

    • @Charlie-x4j
      @Charlie-x4j วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      It’s at the svr number 13268 I believe

    • @PhilBender612
      @PhilBender612 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You never heard of a mogul? pretty popular in the US

    • @JRS06
      @JRS06 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      My guess is that it has been outshone by the Hughes Crab. They were the LMS' defacto mogul, and there are technically three in prservation compared to the sole survivor of the Stanier mogul (which I've never even heard of as a class). It's probably the same situation as how the ex-LNWR Super Ds outshone the LMS-built 0-8-0s.

    • @TheGreatWesternExpress
      @TheGreatWesternExpress 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Lovely to ride behind gotta admit

    • @dominicbarden4436
      @dominicbarden4436 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheGreatWesternExpress Agreed.

  • @stirlingsinglelover
    @stirlingsinglelover วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I was watching some of your old videos and when i checked your channel again, woah! Another video uploaded. Thank you so much for your time and content Sam! Greetings from Mexico

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      haha awesome - it's a real pleasure, so glad you like it!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @AidankurtLovell
      @AidankurtLovell 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      HENRY!!

  • @mikeyratcliff3400
    @mikeyratcliff3400 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    The smokebox / matt/gloss thing depends on the locomotive age and location- various types of paint were used on smokeboxes, some with different chemical construction to the pigment in order to withstand the heat and therefore prevent rusting, however, according to my research ( spent a few years worrying about this) it depends on when and where they were outshopped, it helps to spend ridiculous amounts of time on colour original footage on TH-cam- an easy way to sacrifice an evening or two, so you pays yer money, and necessary splash out on a tin of Humbrol 33 matt black if you are modelling a specific engine at a specific time... thanks Sam- want to see a baccy std4 mogul review which must surely be ready for a revamp, and of course the maunsell moguls must be in the sights of rapido etc al...

  • @JerseyBill-x9r
    @JerseyBill-x9r วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Well, once again you hit the nail on the head with this one and I do like the look of the thing. On a different note, I purchased two of the weathered cars you had in the latest sale, so I consider you Santa now and can't wait for my stocking stuffer. Great review, Jersey Bill

  • @Jam-Jar1
    @Jam-Jar1 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Something about the lining just makes the model look amazing in my opinion.

  • @jackstrains4468
    @jackstrains4468 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What a relief! Coming home from school, and watching your video whilst i do homework!

  • @sonicandmariowiiand3dsgame892
    @sonicandmariowiiand3dsgame892 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I love all of your bachmann/hornby trains videos

  • @NWRJ_WStudios
    @NWRJ_WStudios วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Funny story Sam, I actually bought one of these just before Hattons close down. She runs absolutely wonderful, although the rods are a bit bent she still looks the part.
    Cheers Jasper & Willow

  • @davidrobinson8700
    @davidrobinson8700 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I was running mine today, it's a good model which I got for a decent price. And it's good for what it is - if only Bachmann did a Black 5 in OO gauge as well.....

  • @edberney1162
    @edberney1162 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting that the 1959-60 Ian Allan handbook shows these 2-6-0 Moguls as Class 6P 5F while its 4-6-0 brother was simply classed as "5" and had an indicated greater Tractive Effort than it's 4-6-0 brother at 26,290lbs vs 25,455lbs respectively. Both great beauties. Thanks for the great video.

  • @CeolDeamhan
    @CeolDeamhan วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just in time for my lunch break! Another wonderful video, Sam!

  • @kclassproductions
    @kclassproductions 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m surprised it’s taken manufacturers so long to start the matte smoke box. Nice work Sam!

  • @michaelmcnally2331
    @michaelmcnally2331 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Never thought of it obscure, then again my dad has shares in preslerved loco and when was younger and dad had own steam loco on the SVR then the Stanier Mogul Fund used to let dad make use of their support coach at Bewdley on the back line so used to meet the team that worked on the restoration back in the 80’s.
    Really nice guys and well organised for preservation making sure that generate and raise the money for the next overhaul which is
    Had a run on the return to operation run last Christmas down the Severn Valley Railway.

  • @RedShedNick
    @RedShedNick วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yes i think the tender was exactly the same dimensions of the Hughes Crab. 3. 500 coal and water capacity.

  • @donsharpe5786
    @donsharpe5786 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    i never lied the. original. They were no better than Hughes's Crab and if anything slightly worse although not as bad as Stanier's Class 3 2-6-2. tank. He brought GWs idea of superheating, which was inferior to that already in use by the LMS. Fortunately they only built 40 of them before they started building the Black 5s, which really were a good investment for the LMS.

  • @TS1402Ed
    @TS1402Ed 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Stanier Moguls are such beautiful engines, some even carried stanier tenders instead of fowler ones.

  • @davidmolin8944
    @davidmolin8944 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Honestly I kinda like the mogul design more than the 10 wheeler, looks pretty nice in the black

  • @StanDoesTrains
    @StanDoesTrains วันที่ผ่านมา

    Surprisingly I've never seen this engine before. I really do like it though. Thanks for sharing this model with us Sam!.

  • @lukecarruthers
    @lukecarruthers 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Have you reviewed this before Sam? Can't believe you'd have had a model in your collection for nearly 5 years and not covered it on the channel. This one of my favourite models in my own collection, I've got the 2 you've not, the BR versions. Like you said the Mogul's weight is impressive. Apart from the Black 5 compare it to Bachmann's own 4mt 4-6-0 and the difference in weight is remarkable. Great job.

  • @TheofficalEggmanchannel
    @TheofficalEggmanchannel วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Your videos are great Sam

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thank you so much! :D

  • @TheLoftLayout
    @TheLoftLayout 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Brilliant video Sam!

  • @kenjimaurerfromdisneyland2001
    @kenjimaurerfromdisneyland2001 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you, Sam for uploading the Bachmann Stanier Mogul!

  • @lukemendel8197
    @lukemendel8197 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I saw the Fowler 4F in the background!

  • @Mike-no6fv
    @Mike-no6fv 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Had an issue with my own stanier mogul a few years back, the weight in the body shell itself was putting so much strain on the model I kept smelling electronics from the model every time it ran. Took it out and it's run perfectly ever since

  • @jackstrains4468
    @jackstrains4468 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome loco sam, and a great video!

  • @timwilbur1050
    @timwilbur1050 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Bought both 42968 and 42969 when they were first released, love them to bits, useful medium sized locos.
    Interestingly between these, the Crabs and later Ivatt’s 4MTs the LMS and it’s successors had a lot of Moguls on rosta

  • @TrevorChatwood
    @TrevorChatwood 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    A similar thing exists for the Robert Riddles designed standard 4 mt. I have a Bachmann standard 4mt in a 2-6-0 wheel configuration and a Hornby 4 mt in a 4-6-0 wheel configuration. Apparently the 2-6-0 stayed in service until 1967.

  • @ScottHamilton-ur7iu
    @ScottHamilton-ur7iu 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'd like it if you did a review on the Corgi Wallace and Gromit Wrong trousers train set.

  • @RedShedNick
    @RedShedNick วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Word had it that at a distance the Stanier crab resembled a Jubilee and i can see why! It had a taller stack or chimney similar to the Jubilee. They were a powerful loco, and well suited to parcels trains and used frequently on suburban work. In certain areas it equalled the power of a five. It didnt have a steam dome like an early black five, just a combined top feed /dome. As always from you an excellent and well balanced review on this lovely class of loco. Really enjoyed, cheers Nick.

  • @MarkInLA
    @MarkInLA 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    18:09 : Could you unplug and run those wires below (in this case, above) the axle by maybe first having to remove the wheel set ? Maybe even get rid of(slice off ?) that piece which holds the wires against the draw bar, letting the wires, if they're not too long, just hang freely. Also the front truck is called the 'pilot truck'..When threre's a rear truck it's called a 'pony truck'.
    This is the first time I've seen rivets/bolts on the outside of the counterbalances on ANY steam.. Would have been nice to have seen a photo of the 1:1 with them. The sand pipes (not to be confused with the bird, the sandpiper 😉) are very nice on this.

  • @StephenBarker-j6n
    @StephenBarker-j6n 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Surely there must be a market for a no gimmicks well modelled loco that runs well at a fair price. This would probably help to get more people into the hobby instead of outpricing at lot unles you want toys.

  • @billhoward7354
    @billhoward7354 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Sam, although i don't have a layout i do like model railways, however i think i have to take you to task on one issue. I applaude your testing of slow running however, when i go to model railway shows very few owners of layouts even make any attempt at slow running and as oftern as not coupling up is completed with either a crunch!! or by hand. I suppose the quality of running on fixed layouts maybe better but i am not sure it is the imperative that you would like it to be. In closing - keep up the good work. I ensure your shows

  • @00gaugetrain
    @00gaugetrain 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    great videos mate

  • @levidarling5107
    @levidarling5107 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wonderful review on this engine, did you order a Bachmann Rebecca to review? They are being shipped to people who’ve preordered right now.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you so much! I haven't yet but I will do!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @glennwoods2462
    @glennwoods2462 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great review of a great model...
    I share your enthusiasm for this particular locomotive, irl and the model ✅

  • @RG-Models86
    @RG-Models86 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rather, a hidden gem in Bachmann's range

  • @Gatherleymodeller.
    @Gatherleymodeller. วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It’s been a stressful day until now 😊😊

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ahh sorry to hear that - hope you're doing okay!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @PercytheSaddleTank
    @PercytheSaddleTank 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Hey Sam! I’ll soon be a model engine collector just like you!

  • @johnrigby7373
    @johnrigby7373 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    To honour Staniers links to the GWR the Horwich works added a painted version of the GWR safety bonnet. His words are not recorded but in the article I read he was said to be not happy. They replaced it.

  • @thegreatwesterner9481
    @thegreatwesterner9481 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great video sam the stanier mogul is a nice engine to travel behind

  • @xavierlu5849
    @xavierlu5849 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Odd one out is 4F, at 27:34. That was designed by Henry Fowler, not Stanier.

  • @jamesdunloptrains
    @jamesdunloptrains 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome video today Sam very interesting model

  • @robertlucido3686
    @robertlucido3686 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I don't know if you know the TH-cam channel SMTMainline, but I made him an S gauge American Flyer train set, and I'm sending it to him as a Christmas present. Also, do you set up a train underneath your Christmas tree? Also, I set up a window display at my public library with an N gauge train running around a Christmas village, I'll be putting it in my video on my Christmas train running session, check it out once I upload it

  • @PhilBender612
    @PhilBender612 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mogul's are quite popular in the US.. A lot of rail roads owned them.

  • @StarWarsJay
    @StarWarsJay 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The intro music today reminds me of being in a lift when someone drops one, but everyone pretends it didn’t happen.

  • @hearingthesmells2500
    @hearingthesmells2500 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think they should bring it back man. 😊

  • @MaxwellTheTrainFan
    @MaxwellTheTrainFan 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    It’s the baby five 😂😂😂
    That’s what my friend called it 😂
    The 8F is the BIGfive
    The Black5 is what it is !
    The mougle is the BABYfive
    Don’t question 😂😂😂

  • @attuslebeard5133
    @attuslebeard5133 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I read somewhere that these moguls were nicknamed 'lobsters' as opposed to 'crabs' which were the Hughes/Fowler moguls

  • @petergrossett6763
    @petergrossett6763 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I’m thinking of buying a D16, but I keep looking at the Stanier mogul. Which would you recommend I purchase first? Great unboxing

  • @davidstrains4910
    @davidstrains4910 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s a decent loco, not sure if I would get one as my personal outlook of mogul locomotives is that they are not as exciting compared to other locomotives, while I don’t think they are the most exciting locos I will say it’s good to have the sole survivor one back running which was only very recently that it came back

  • @GelatoTaco
    @GelatoTaco 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Yes I have heard of it before and I want one sooooo bad (specifically in LMS Black). Feel like I can never find one pre-owned and have the cash for it at the same time.
    Edit: fixed a sentence

  • @Jimyjames73
    @Jimyjames73 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Yeah I've just recently bought the Hornby BR Stanier Black 5 'The Glasgow Highlander' - interesting to see the difference!!! Nearly the same 🤔🚂🚂🚂

  • @blazemaster1149
    @blazemaster1149 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I saw the thumbnail, looked up the difference between a Mongul and Black Five in terms of size and power but nothing. Then I clicked the video to Sam admitting the same thing about they look almost alike😂

  • @aberfordwest4003
    @aberfordwest4003 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not only have I been on the footplate of the real one, I’m also hopefully getting a model of one TOMORROW! Great timing as always Sam!! 😂

  • @KevinHodges-v7n
    @KevinHodges-v7n 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    what continually surprises me with new releases is their inconsistent nature. Like, how does a company decide if they're going to have sprung buffers or the level of detail in the cab etc. It seems to be random, maybe to hit a price point?

  • @Jetman-xf5lr
    @Jetman-xf5lr วันที่ผ่านมา

    they are pretty underrated locos to be honest

  • @michaelwhite8031
    @michaelwhite8031 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really cool engine. 😊

  • @ThunderbirdX
    @ThunderbirdX วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Well well well. If it isnt the locomotive i drove for my 30th this year. Albeit the number was 13268

  • @Hiawatha_Productions
    @Hiawatha_Productions 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don’t think Stanier designed the 4F. He didn’t make any 0-6-0’s lol. Definitely the odd one out

  • @Trainfan3500
    @Trainfan3500 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would definitely get a few o gauge mk1s unfortunately they have been discontinued at least in ready to run form and they don’t seem to have a loco to match ☹️

  • @NWRJ_WStudios
    @NWRJ_WStudios วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Sam, I may have spotted the odd one out. It's the LMS 4f. Hopefully I got that right?
    Cheers Jasper & Willow

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well spotted!! :D

    • @kenjimaurerfromdisneyland2001
      @kenjimaurerfromdisneyland2001 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SamsTrainsStuff and nonsense. I’m gonna be silly, sir!

  • @roberthannigan8118
    @roberthannigan8118 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The bachmann n scale Gordon is available please look it up

  • @TheHoveHeretic
    @TheHoveHeretic 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Has Sam's Trains *ever* mentioned one specific loco *not* being reviewed as often as he does the Black 5? (Oh gawd, he's got me doing it now!)
    Naughty thought ..... If the 4-6-0 was Stanier's edition of the GWR Hall, was this one the equivalent of the 43xx?

  • @thomasbeavon6485
    @thomasbeavon6485 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mine has been a good model. Fowler tender.

  • @kenjimaurerfromdisneyland2001
    @kenjimaurerfromdisneyland2001 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    8:05 5P4F 4-6-0 No. 5112.

  • @JonathanPan-d8u
    @JonathanPan-d8u วันที่ผ่านมา

    How many model train boxes do you have right now?

  • @pokemontrainermichael5551
    @pokemontrainermichael5551 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Henry : wanna race ?

  • @mikeyratcliff3400
    @mikeyratcliff3400 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Hmm bachmann railroad! There's a thing!

  • @Marcstrainsandfunko
    @Marcstrainsandfunko 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    He’s had that in box for like 7 years 😮😮😮😮

  • @scmorton2370
    @scmorton2370 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Beautiful model right price

  • @caw25sha
    @caw25sha 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    According to Wikithing this is also a Class 5 which seems odd.

  • @kenruble5292
    @kenruble5292 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Looks almost like an American engine. Add a pilot, trucks under the tender and a few other details and you have it.

  • @peterkneissl3358
    @peterkneissl3358 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    How do they sell on ebay?

  • @juniorfarm3003
    @juniorfarm3003 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No I haven’t heard of it but anyway nice video❤

  • @Thomasthestreamliner
    @Thomasthestreamliner 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I never seen an engine that looks like a black 5 when it’s a 2-6-0 and not a 4-6-0

  • @azuma892
    @azuma892 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Sam, can we expect to see the Bachmann Rebecca review before Christmas? :)

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  วันที่ผ่านมา

      No not before Christmas - I will get one though!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @JustinFrazier_360
    @JustinFrazier_360 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's so cool

  • @thomastrainzfan4444
    @thomastrainzfan4444 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    nice!

  • @paulwaterworth2294
    @paulwaterworth2294 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Why review a loco you admitted you reviewed a while ago? Cost of new locos getting too much?

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Nope - I do this frequently to keep my video catalogue up to date - people watch and enjoy them!

  • @kellyashfordtrains2642
    @kellyashfordtrains2642 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm tired of guessing the odd one out. Your Stanier Mogul is beautiful the way she is. Aside from that, fancy some Christmas Cheer on my channel? My N Gauge and 00 Gauge engines are running side by side, with some Christmas music playing in the background. Give Parts 1 and 2 a view each and tell me what you think of them. I'm a bit more confident on the N Gauge side.

  • @martinbradshaw7877
    @martinbradshaw7877 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I think you have been harsh. You surely should not judge a 2017 loco by 2024 standards. It’s a lovely model. Like you I love Moguls and 0-6-0 tender locos. Better than a Northern pacific any day

  • @W4lmartbag
    @W4lmartbag วันที่ผ่านมา

    I never heard of it

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      haha yeah it's an odd one!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @Luis-dj9fk
    @Luis-dj9fk 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Se Ve Cool

  • @Maniac02-k2p
    @Maniac02-k2p วันที่ผ่านมา

    And Black 5's Little sister ? - no, difnt see it these days - ;)

  • @azuma892
    @azuma892 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have had a crush on a classmate for a while now. What do you advice me to do...

    • @azuma892
      @azuma892 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Don't know why I'm asking here lol... 🙈

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Well maybe hang out with them and see if they feel the same!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @tripwire3992
      @tripwire3992 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@azuma892ask your friends not the internet as people can be really mean for no reason on here. Take care of yourself too 👍

    • @Jetman-xf5lr
      @Jetman-xf5lr วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@SamsTrains new channel Sam's relationship advice? XD

    • @azuma892
      @azuma892 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@tripwire3992 Thanks, the thing is, 1) I don't have any close friends, 2) Sam is the nicest guy ever. :)

  • @ReallyUsefulPinkEngine29
    @ReallyUsefulPinkEngine29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    2-6-0 Henry

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Almost!!

  • @SomeGuynamedOtto
    @SomeGuynamedOtto 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Never thought that the LMS made moghuls until now

    • @dominicbarden4436
      @dominicbarden4436 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Crabs, Ivatt 2MTs and 4MTs are probably the best-known ones. The Stanier one less so.

  • @Madonsteamrailways
    @Madonsteamrailways วันที่ผ่านมา

    That’s what might be called a Mogul, isn’t it?!!

  • @NextEevolution
    @NextEevolution วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's strange, if you were to ask me to name a Stanier Mogul, I would have said the LMS Crab. Of course, that's wrong since the Crab was designed by George Hughes.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  วันที่ผ่านมา

      haha absolutely - it's an obscure one this!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @michaelmcnally2331
      @michaelmcnally2331 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Could be worse could say the flying pigs designed by Staniers successor Ivatt.

  • @hello-m8v
    @hello-m8v วันที่ผ่านมา

    3rd comment

  • @soerenwizard
    @soerenwizard 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Black 4? I'm no british modeller.