Welfare and the Politics of Poverty | Retro Report | The New York Times
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- Bill Clinton’s 1996 welfare reform was supposed to move needy families off government handouts and onto a path out of poverty. Twenty years later, how has it turned out?
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"When I said poor people are the problem, I didn't foresee people would think poor people were the problem."
Common Sense -infinite
Is 2 years not enough for you, do you want 5? 10? or just give free money until they die? now im in favor of taxing the rich and even a ubi that removes all entitlements 900 a month for 21 and up, and 2,500 for anyone 68 and up. No more welfare, no more food stamps, no more stigma, no more means testing anti job bs.
All welfare reform did was split up families and put children in group homes and foster care , the foster care system costs the government more money than welfare plus the emotional and phychological trauma kids had to deal with was painful , bill Clinton was heartless asf , I never voted for democrats after what they did , they no longer became the party of fdr but heartless people , screw that guy
I can't believe Clinton could see that with a straight farce. The rhetoric at the time concerning poor people coming from the Right was already toxic.
@@geekedmaxx Clinton sided with globalist capitalist elites.
Here’s the deal... they know they can get a job! They want a job! Here’s the problem... Say you’re a high school graduate with no partner and two kids. The only job you can get is minimum wage. Now that you’re at work, you have to find daycare for your kids. Daycare prices have skyrocketed in years past. Half your paycheck goes to someone watching your kids. So, you get a second job. Now, you have to pay for more daycare! You can work as much as you humanly can, but you’re still behind. Rent, food, transportation, healthcare and bare necessities add up quickly. There are so many factors that keep people in poverty. There needs to be better programs to get these people well paying jobs. Otherwise, we will keep going the cycle of poverty going.
You know, YOU could always SAVE better.
I mean, if you are ALREADY poor, WHY are you having MULTIPLE kids???
I'm choosing not to have children, for many of my own reasons, but what the two respondents are effectively saying is that childbearing is a class privilege, which has pretty terrifying connotations and is particularly appalling in an era where women's reproductive rights are being rolled back. What is a woman when she is thought of as culturally something/body with a moral obligation to take full responsibility for her sexual behaviour, and therefore assume the full shame of any violation, but also treated legally as reproductive property without any independence in her decision making around her childbearing capacity? If men don't understand how unacceptable that is, and the unfair social and economic burden of this responsibility placed on women for a mutual act, then honestly women have no reason to trust or share their lives with men. If we want to get together in love, it must come from a place of mutual respect. Otherwise, what is the point? If you are not wiling to value yourself, your lover, your children, your community, your world, what are you really contributing to anything or anybody?
You’re under the impression minimum wage covers living expenses?
leeraewi They’re not saying childbearing is a privilege, just that it’s unpractical for poor people.
komm: Yet the same conservatives that want to cut support for mothers also want to cut their access to family planning. Not just abortion, but birth control, too. This is true whether they are married or not. A lot of conservatives are against birth control, period. Look at what they have tried to do to Planned Parenthood. And so forth.
i never hear Rep's, or many politicians from either side, talk about corporate welfare, where we needlessly spend way more money.
The pentagon has (again) misplaced 6.4 trillion dollars. They simply can't account for it! That money could help a lot of people in a lot of ways. I bet no one will even lose their position. And if anyone still doesn't believe there's a "black budget" funding pet projects, then well, that's how they get away with it.😑
+miapdx Portland that's a military industrial complex problem for ya. it's what Eisenhower warned Americans about as he was leaving office. the answer isn't less government, the answer is better people and more accountability. also add to that sending company execs, banksters and politicians to prison if they brake the law.
+Joe Listig I totally agree. If they were in any other occupation, their incompetence would get them fired, or imprisoned! It's so disgusting. Why do we possibly need more weapons. We have enough to destroy *everybody* many times over.
Joe Listig k!
its certainly a thing but by what sources is it greater than general welfare?
Getting cash assistance was the only way for me to keep my house when I had to take off work for a surgery. I had a crappy job during the recession that didn't offer any sick leave or short term disability. Welfare kept me from losing my home and going hungry during a necessary medical procedure.
Hope you're doing better!
Housing and food so you don't f-ing starve and die are BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS. We've all been mindf--kd into believing money is more important than people by those who worship money (fake fiat fancy fanny paper) and feel entitled to be god and king.
And it's people like you that welfare was intended to help.. not the queens who abuse it
Yes, it helped you then. It was a short term solution. It is not meant to be a long term hand out...
the ONLY way? I hope you don't expect anyone to actually believe that, and more importantly I hope you don't believe that yourself. I think it comes down to what you're willing to do to make something work.
"Some people who are on welfare make more money than some people who are working. " Maybe that isn't an indication that welfare is the problem, but an indication that people AREN'T GETTING PAID ENOUGH IN THE FIRST PLACE?
That's what it sounds like to me!
If we reduce tax burden on our middle class and corporate profits that will be put toward capital investment, we will see increase in jobs/wages as witnessed before
Or that you should be looking for a better job. There’s a neat concept
8 DOLLARS AN HOUR IN THE US FOR A JOB IS LESS THAN IN FRANCE, WHICH IS AROUND 11 DOLLARS OR TWELVE NOW, AS THE MONIMUM SALARY LAW REQUIRES. 8 DOLLARS AN HOUR FOR A JOB IN THE US IS NOT ACCEPTABLE, REALLY NOT ACCEPTABLE. WE ARE NOT IN SICILY IN THE US WHERE EVERYTHING CAN BE EXPENSIVE!
Exactly
Each missile used in the middle east wars could feed families for months.
"don't feed the alligators"... Interesting choice to describe a woman who's children were onced referred to as "gator bait". 🤔
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Time limits and Saying "get a job" is unfair without helping them get a job. If it is so easy for people to get jobs all over, the government should be able to have a easy time helping with that. The job helping programs I have seen actually only are only helpful (although not much) to those without any clue how to approach getting a job. Which many people already know how to write a resume or interview. There should also be programs that can help with understanding finance.
if that is your actual picture, i can see why you hate your self.
In Germany we have some different programs, but they don't help most people much. Most people don't get a job, cuz there are none. What did they do do reduce the numbers of people without work? They put them in bad paid half time jobs outside their edjucation and skillset at McDonalds. Those people still live on welfare, cuz they mostly paid not enough to make a living. We do have 4.33 Million people living on welfare and 1.33 Million of those DO work. 300.000 of them evem work full time, 40h/week. Yet, they earn less then 800€/month (you're "poor" bellow 1.200€/month and can get welfare bellow that. If you dont work, you get 360€/month as a single person + 350€ for rent).
I've been there once before I started to study and hat a 36h/week Mon-Sat job for 620€, thats 2,5€ per hour. Minimum wage is 7,5€ up to 9,75€. But yes those 2.5€ are legal, you can even work full time with 1€/h.
But still, looking at US system... such a big no-no.
Some Guy yeah, there's gas stations and fast food restaurants close to me. All fully staffed with no available positions. I'll just get a job there somehow 🤔
You’re a moron, just get a job
Simple solution. Stop anti-family Title IV-D money incentives. Call Congress today. Mothers need to respect and love the father. Children need both of their own parents in the home. Moral decay. Stop buying votes.
Reporting the news that kicks you in the gut.
As always the New York Times has done a excellent job reporting stories from all the different sides and letting you decide.
Thank you very much.
I worked with an Irish guy who spent his life on "the dole" got his engineering degree and came to America. That's the difference between the European system and what we have in America or at least it was before austerity measures. Welfare should be designed to get people up on their feet and into the workforce. Instead it provides just enough money to keep people in poverty.
Isn't that what the welfare system does though? Keep people poor but functioning just a little bit. Like your not going to be a multi-millionaire with food stamps.....
🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️You missed the point of the report. I can also make up imaginary co-workers and point to them as reasons to destroy all welfare programs in the USA.🤡🤡🤡
So that is possible, we need to ban WCA´s. WCA´s put people out of the work force and force them to be on welfare.
>that's the difference between the European system and what we have in America
another difference is that if you earn more than 36k Euros (about US $39k) the tax rate in Ireland is 40%.
The only welfare we should end is corporate welfare!
Thank you corps get more than anyone
You got that right.
Oh no, you don't want to talk about that... or the freebie benefits middle class and upper class people receive like getting money simply for paying their mortgage.
Kekistani Refugee Says the little racist lefty who wants universal healthcare for white people. Ask Richard Spencer if you don’t believe me!
@AmericanPatrinot: what about the Farmers? We want our subsidies.
Arizona: "We won't raise taxes! Instead we'll just take tax money from the poorest people."
FYI- poorest people don't pay taxes!
This statement is among the dumbest. So many people with such ridiculous claims of the rich stealing from the poor. News flash, the poor have nothing to steal & considering that most, if not all of what they do have was handed to them by a government that took it from somebody else, it seems very clear that the poor are ones stealing.
@@bademoxy
Kinda sad how such common sense is considered a good point. It speaks volumes for the level of thinking of most in this thread.
No just put all the responsibility on dads to pay child support
Australia is heading this way. I am very disabled and no one would hire me. Hospital is a revolving door for me . It's the same everywhere though, the rich get richer and the poor get the picture.
I payed taxes most of my life and for people to call this disabled welfare cheats is outrageous . Yes there a some people that play the system but I am living well below the poverty line and I can tell you it's not fun .
Molly Mayor
I completely understand you Molly. Many people have worked for 10 to 40 years and unfortunately, sicknesses come upon them.
Through those decades they have paid thousands in taxes, that warrants them to be taken care of in my opinion. Since they paid the government for so long.
Morgan J thanks Morgan . I have paid my taxes . Aussie taxes are outrageous . The average pack of smokes is 25 + . I live in Sydney and it's getting more and more expensive every day. I worry for my grandsons ,my life is very simple these days. For them to be able to buy a home well ,I live in the outer suburbs and home on average in my street are going for $800,000 minimum . Sigh I suppose every generation has said the same thing. Have a lovely day xoxo
Molly Mayor then don’t buy cigarettes if they cost $25?! I know it’s a shocker, but people who live as you say *below the poverty line* shouldn’t be able to buy these luxuries. So maybe you’re not as poor as you may want everyone to believe. Also if you live in a wealthy neighbourhood then choose to downsize and free some cash so you can sustain yourself. Not rocket science.
@@matheosc5255 Cigarettes are a physiological addiction. It's not as easy for people as "stop smoking."
And it sounds she got her house for a good price but now that prices have risen she's worried for her family.
The things you say aren't helpful for someone in this situation. What is helpful is supporting programs which actually help people get back on their feet and back into the workforce. What is helpful is making sure that your local minimum wage is a living wage, so that people can fund their own improvement - so that those who would need to work two jobs to get by can work one, leaving that other job open for someone else who needs one, helping our workforce grow. Then they can help you help others.
If you have a problem with people spending money they don't have on addictive substances, support rehab programs. If you have problems with people paying housing costs, support legislation to make affordable housing. You can make a difference. Or you can tell people with no power to do it. Your call.
The poor dont get poorer a poor person today has a tv and a car in 1950 there werent evn computars.
I worked as a Jobs Training Counselor with the Welfare to Work Program. It certainly trained woman and helped in many ways. But like the video says...the tea party and right wing still use that as a way to scapegoat the poor. And there are many working poor...than cannot even live with the small amount of help and food stamps being cut. Let's get back to common sense and quite blaming the poor for the governments money issues. It is more the corporate welfare programs that should be ashamed. Why do you think there are so many more family on the street today and living in there cars (if they have one) and their children?? It's a very sad state of affairs.
Bless you. Common sense, and feet in reality.
Simple solution. Stop anti-family Title IV-D money incentives. Call Congress today. Mothers need to respect and love the father. Children need both of their own parents in the home. Moral decay. Stop buying votes.
@@PeopleHealthTru Mothers do NOT "need" to respecet nor love the father. feelings change and no human is entitled to "respect". Respect is something a partner (or anyone else) EARNS. Never mind that divorces happen even between partners that respect each other, the partners are or can return to a state of friendship and reasonable cooperation. But they have developed apart and do not want to be stuck with the other person till death do us part. Which meant a much shorter time when that phrase was created and it was another time and economy.
It is not as if the marriages were happy (and beneficial for the emotional wellbeing of the children) a few generations back just because it was unusual to have a divorce and the parents were stuck in the marriages. It does not do any good to the children to watch their parents suffer through an unhappy, unsatisfying marriage.
What is important for society: that the children are raised well - and that should NOT depend on the emontional relationship between ONE man and wife - or the economic fate of that family (or the ability of the man to make a high enough income).
Other wealthy nations have out of wedlock births as well and a rate of divorces almost as high as the U.S. The losses of WW2 left plenty of widows who raised children without a man in the home - at least not the father of the children - so no wailing about the woes of the absent fathers. A committed father is certainly better than having none - but the children will survive and in these days one cannot force men or women to stay in a relationship.
There are plenty of children born outside of marriage in Germany, Austria, France Netherlands for instance - the majority ! - except for the more conservative part of society - Muslim, devoted Catholics, maybe some farmers (who tend to be more conservative). The other folks thave their children FIRST. If they are still together when the child starts school (or kindergarden with 4 or 5) - that is often the time the parents feel compelled to "make it legal".
Parents of children are more hesistant to break up - it does not matter if they are married or not. Seems like the children make them more committed to the relationship.
There is NO reason THAT must undermine the web of society. But in these societies they have an automatic child allowance (everyone gets it, that is not welfare). And then programs for low income persons and families. Which in many cases will be single parents.
Sure a divorce is not fun for But they DO not selfrighteously try to determine HOW other people have to live. The children need to be well taken care of - or they will not become productive and reliable members of society.
Supporting them cannot be left to the mothers alone nor can it be left to the fathers. Nor is it desireable that a mother would have to work plus 40 hours, is not able to afford the rent in a safe area.
She will be exhausted instead of taking care of the children and in a bad neighbourhoods there are many dangers for unsupervised children and teenagers.
It takes a village to raise a child - that is a law of evolution, the little ones and their mothers were precious for the tribe.
When did that principle become obsolete ?
They didn't do core family, everyone is on their own during human evolution. They females did the work together and the whole bunch of children was with them while the men often hunten in groups as well. So it was shared work and shared "income".
We do not live as hunter gatheres anymore, we live in anonymous settings often a long way from relatives. So a more anonymous community must step up to compensate for the "village".
@@xyzsame4081 You hate your own children when you disrespect their father.
Xyz Same Here’s the thing - the children of deadbeats and illiterates are not precious to the larger tribe. The larger tribe is completely comfortable segregating away from this rift raff, and raising children separately
"I did not foresee that." Bill Clinton's life story.
I recognize that this report is four years old, but I really wish that you spent more time discussing the move from welfare to low paid, precarious service sector jobs. Did we really think that if people lacked education, drop training and social supports that those hotel maid jobs, fast food jobs and such were going to lead to a sustained better life and upward mobility?
I got an AA degree and still got the saaaame job. I kinda wish it was like they say ‘education’ helps but sometimes it does not.
The point of welfare cuts is to force people to stay in poverty wage jobs.
They need to make the childrens fathers help with the children they help created.
Noooo instead the fathers go from women to women to make more babies then they leave the women.
Agreed. It's sad to see so many people beating up on the mothers when the fathers aren't even there
...Is this why we have so much homelessness now?
That and very bad mental health facilities :(
I love the retro reports. But really the attitudes toward and policies for the poor are really bad in the US. People all too often blame people for being poor instead of looking to fix the circumstances that create large wealth disparities.
But looking at this and the policies pushed by the GOP makes me so mad, because so much of what they do harms women and children, and the most vulnerable members of society. I just simply don't understand how the logic works of trying to end reproductive rights, but then refusing to take any responsibility as a society for the actual children who are here, and creating policies that make their struggles worse.
They want anyone that isn't them to suffer as much as possible. They want to hoard their wealth, and then watch the world burn by their hand while they sit on their throne cozy and safe.
Rainstorms are lovely and relaxing when you aren't the one stuck in them.
I dont think its about trying to end reproductive rights, but more like trying to be smarter about our reproductive health. Whats wrong with waiting to afford children like the rest of us have to do who are not poor?
@@ecclairmayo4153 You're really out here thinking middle-upper class people just don't pay for abortions in private while looking down on poor people for also getting abortions. Wow. What a nice and fair world you live in.
You're really out here thinking poor people magically have the same access to the same quality of privatized healthcare as middle-upper class people. Wow.
@@TheChickenRiceBowl - i never said they didnt have abortions, but people who have abortions are also saying they want to WAIT until they are financially prepared to have a baby. That is all I said, WAIT until you can afford it. Thats what evrybody does if they want to lessen their chances of being impoverished with their child
@@ecclairmayo4153 How can you write a comment that has both your point and the counter point and still not get it.
what we need is to give free IUDs to teens so they dont go out and have children before they can afford it
How about we raise minimum wages to a livable wage and we can get rid of a culture of poverty.
Kimberly Rowden you can’t give people with no skills 16 an hr . It needs to go up but you’re not suppose to live off it
The minimum wage was absolutely made to provide a basic living.
Luis Salcedo but it doesn’t, so we need to raise it
Kimberly Rowden how about pushing education and lower cost of college, that will eliminate poverty.
If you work, you should make a living of it at least, even if you don't have the skills. How do you think people without skills should be able to EARN those skills, if they don't have enough money of their work to eat and have a home to live in and work in like 2, 3 or more jobs? Whats wrong with you americans? Are you so desperate to need a huge mass of poor people, working in 3 jobs for nearly nothing? Is that your way to substitute China, or what?
Unemployment happens when big companies go to another country to pay cheaper/less wages, and that leaves us here with no jobs. Yea, that's capitalism for you.
then we get a depression because entire american towns are fired and can't afford to buy what they once made for a living.
its only going to get worse thanks to neoliberal capitalism. unless we get UBI or someshit
A daycare which pays $9/hour? That's less than $18,000 a year!
Isn't the poverty line $1.5 a day?
That's more than enough.
@@swarnimvajpai6373 that’s the world poverty line not the national poverty line
@@rachelperkins7557 right. I wrote this reply when i was extremely angry because a lot of my countrymen don't even have money enough to survive even when they work hard. I didn't take into account expenses in the US.
@@swarnimvajpai6373 You have to be aware also that she has two young children.
@@PKMNFan4664 my point still stands though. In my country most poor people have 3-4 children since they're "more hands" (instead of thinking them as "more mouths"). Still, having kids was her choice (doesn't mean her children don't deserve welfare. I'm pro welfare, i'm just putting another obstacle into perspective. Ignorance and illiteracy.)
The thing to keep in mind that contemporary politics glosses over is that welfare isn't just about reducing poverty. It's also about preventing parental neglect. The theory was that poor children might have better lives if their mothers can at least stay home and raise them early on. Welfare reform also had the effect of separating mothers and their children. That's the real moral decay.
Parental neglect begins when the Parent’s do not marry
@@johnnypham2850 But should we judge people whose parents aren't married?
Absolutely, valuing raising a family under working a minimum wage job is so stupid, look at the kids now. Their all trying to get ahead by living lives of crime, or at least glamorizing it, and playing into system that feeds on the stupidity of the masses. Look at what happens at Travis Scott concerts, these are the children of a system that values money over all else, racism, and increasing poverty in predominantly economically poor communities.
How can people be so heartless as to do this? To see that the percentage of people living in poverty (and many in deep poverty) has increased, but to want to take it further. These are sick people who would do this, or try to excuse it.
Because republicans know poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits.
I am 34. I was homeless for a year in my early 20s. I became a single mother at 27 after the biological father walked out. I went hungry so my daughter could eat at times. I was on food stamps for 3 months. My daughter is now 8. I have a good job and I am a homeowner. "Welfare" is a hand up. Not a lifestyle. Many families stay on taxpayer provided assistance through generations. It is disgusting. I am not a victim. I am an able-bodied adult. Stop being lazy and do something. Stop having children you cannot afford.
How could you have gone through all of that and yet have no sympathy for other people in similar situations? That is so sad :(
Stop having kids if you cannot afford them!!
It's as simple as that. Yes, there are a lot of things out of our control but having kids we can't afford Is not one of them
Welfare recipients should be given the opportunity to attend certification programs or vocational training to obtain technical jobs that are in demand in the market. This would turn tables tremendously if not everything was about making money in the educational system.
EXACTLY!!!!!
What happened to being a public servant, doing good for the people who allowed them the privilege of leadership? I guess that mindset is ancient history now. Positions of leadership shouldn't be an entitlement; leaders are not entitled to their positions. Yet, our corporate and political cultures have made leadership just that.
They do relentlessly work to do theor best for the people who put them in office. Their billionaire and corporate sponsors.
Simple solution. Stop anti-family Title IV-D money incentives. Call Congress today. Mothers need to respect and love the father. Children need both of their own parents in the home. Moral decay. Stop buying votes which enslave.
America: We'll try to punish the parent for not being able to get a Job by hurting their kids.
Blu3W4r10Ck No, you got it all twisted. Just because people need to learn to take personal responsibility and stop having so many kids if they know they can’t afford him and bring him in his property. I just don’t understand.
We'll punish the people that haven't found a job they'd actually like to work.
How about not having g kuds you can't afford in the first place.. Welfare was not meant to be permanent, but since no one wants to create programs that mandate they improve- a GED online for ex. , or no mire food stamps etc. then she'll out taxpayers.
@svtfast Punnisged ? Funny how they can't get a h.s diploma or GED, but their job is,to breed. And they NEVER consider adoption. You don't have kuds you can't afford not shoukd the tax payer support you lazy was.
svtfast And it worked. I mean unemployment in America is at an all time low....oh wait
From a societal standpoint, one really dangerous thing happening in this space is the normalization of having children out of wedlock. This affects everyone, but it disproportionately affects mothers and children. A strong marriage gives strength to all the family members both emotionally and financially. Being a single parent is not easy, and poverty is a trap that is difficult to escape without outside help.
As if big cooperations don’t get bailouts. No one wants to have that conversation. Most ppl on welfare today are those who are disabled and on SSI
Btw my son is in the military. For 4 yrs now. His income would not support a wife & children. He would be living below the poverty line the moment he got married.
The working issue is all about a decent living wage.
Blaming the poor is only a scapegoat. It's easy for ppl to blame the poor instead of actually researching the real facts and admitting it. Ego gets in the way. People are polarized.
@kommisar theres tons of ppl with degrees that cant find good work.. it's a glorified work permit. Disabled ppl. The elderly and children are the ones collecting the most...nobody is blaming big corporations for their situation, just getting the truth out there for those who blame the poor..the entire picture needs to be looked at and not just one thing. Assuming that ppl on assistance are all ill educated and smoking dope shows a lack of education... you should read Democracy for the Few by Michael Parenti...actually any of Michael Parentis books will explain things well and he is credible..as long as humans are not living the way we are naturally supposed to be living there will be several different social issues....how about not blaming at all..theres about 1000 different factors to why someone may not have a decent job..until you know their entire story inside and out and exactly how everything is run then your not qualified..but ppl will blame anyhow cause it boosts them up.
@kommisar th-cam.com/video/t_xrGHDZVwI/w-d-xo.html
I am educated on this topic and thats why I say that the poor are used as scapegoats. I really do want others to as least try to understand without it turning into name-calling and would like for ppl to stop being polarized in the ways they think. You should watch this link I sent you. All of his lectures and books are fantastic, unpolarized and only facts.
Its easy to blame people who cant defend themselves.
What is never mentioned in articles like this is how expensive poor people are. Poor people are very over represented in crime statistics and cost society a fortune. If you create more poverty you will pay for it, one way or another. I understand that it might sound careless but if you simply do a proper cost analysis you might realize that welfare is the cheaper way.
Welfare creates MORE poverty.
Welfare is not an "entitlement." Entitlements are Social Security and Medicare...and things like car insurance. If someone pays for their policies, and they qualify for benefits, they are entitled to those benefits.
Welfare is available to anyone...regardless of whether they paid into any program or not...which makes it a poverty reduction program...not an "entitlement."
Karl Haynes you can never work and get social security
Karl Haynes Why are social security and Medicare entitlements?
@@victoriahale5254 if you are physically born handicapped....or get physically hurt as a child and are incapable of taking care of yourself. What's your point?
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We have got to do more for the poor in this country. We need to teach personal finance in schools. We need to teach how to find and keep a good paying job in every school and town. These are life essential skills that you only learn if you’re lucky enough to live In a successful family. Home economics is another one. We’re all poorer for not knowing how to keep a budget and organize a household. And yes we need a real safety net to support those in poverty and help them find their way to success!
Agreed!
Not to mention teaching the so called middle class to stop living on credit
Pretending they are not poor
the safety net is why the poverty rate keeps growing lol, have you not learned from mistakes
Hillary was cute back them. LoL
science, technology have moved on significantly since the 90s but neither candidate for presidency is fit to use it for good of the general public - time for babyboomers to retire for good
well...considering how most millennial babies feel entitled to everything from getting more money from the 1% because they make more, to self-centered freedom of choice.....I say we still need the babyboomers.
@@longlee1100 no.. The boomers should go. This hard left push started with them
+Militant KANE we replacing the boombers with what? millenial?
@@longlee1100 wtf have boomers done other than blame milenalls and destroy the legacy of che guvera
@@longlee1100 xers are up next
I would rather have my tax dollars go towards people that need money to live and buy food and pay for a roof over their head as opposed to billionaire’s to use to buy another yacht, instead of welfare we should move towards a universal basic income. Even if people aren’t working it’s better that people have money to live rather then living on the streets or prison
I want to hear more from those who are on welfare to judge just how well it works or fails. A whole lot of folks have opinions on this issue and there's nothing wrong with that but the changes that are made to the system will most likely have a small impact on most people. I want to hear more from those whom this will affect directly.
As somebody that's been a Democrat most of my life... I never voted for Clinton because I considered the Personal Responsibility Act a direct betrayal of progressive values of Roosevelt, Kennedy, and Johnson. Clinton did not have my approval as president, and his politics represented a long-term weakening of the party's identity.
I definitely see why Paul Wellstone voted against it, for example.
I supported Clinton at first, because he was pro-choice. But now I think he did a lot of damage to this country through the Welfare Reform Bill, et al. These days, there is little to choose between Democrats and Republicans.
Those eyebrows though 😂😂
How could Newt Gingrich talk about 'moral decay'.What a hypocrite he is.
One of the problems is the way your income is counted when on or applying for Social Services. They count your income pre-deduction not post-deduction. Meaning if you make 900.00 a pay period and you get paid bi-weekly your monthly income is 1800.00 a month. They count all of that even though you only bring home 1200.00 and 600.00 is taxes and job offered benefits deducted from your check. So, as a result you’ve been cut off and have to fend for yourself with that 1200.00. That seems like a decent amount until you consider this person’s rent is 700.00. That’s more than half that person’s income and at the point that you’re paying that much of your income on any one thing as essential as rent you’re already in trouble. That leaves 500.00 for food, non food items transportation child care and the list goes on.
Great point!
I need to go where the rent is 700...
He also help pass the three strike rule that also punished those experiencing poverty and minorities. He also helped Citi Group so he does not have the best record and he only now realizing that after millions are still suffering.
No one should have to pay to live on a planet we were all unwillingly born onto. Change my mind.
That's why Doug Standhope jokingly wanted to sue his parents.
When my single mother migrated to the us, we weren't us citizens so never received any benefits. She didn't have kids to gain the system and instead worked from dawn to dusk. Now 20 yrs later, owns multiple properties, I make over $100k and life is good.
Yea that's great you own properties that good white folks would own if not for our freebie immigration policy
1 year max, wow Arizona, I have never had welfare but I am proud to be an American, cause we take care of our own.
@Mind Fucka I'm from ireland, my ancestors fled balitmore when african slavers came to enslave the city and sell to middle eastern traders
africans sold blacks to western traders, but whites to middle easterns
@Mind Fucka american slavery was african culture appropriation and africans should pay reparations to all the southerners who were poor due to the labor market
@Mind Fucka ireland was the small fish in the history of slavery
regardless, I don't believe in the sin of thy father, i have no guilt from what i haven't done
I just like to point out the most hypocritical idea imaginable, that the very people who ran slavery, deserve reparations for their own culture.
show me a historical african jails and their stories.
Thank you so much for this video!!
clinton's legacy: push the left to the right, which in turn made the right fall of a cliff into insanity. nice
8 or 9 an hour?? I barely make that with a Bachelor's degree.... and this was how many years ago?? Minimum wage is only 7.50!!
Watching stuff like this..... makes me glad i'm not american.
@@KaiSellgren
...That makes NO sense.
Says the guy who spends most of his day watching American movies listening to American musics, wearing blue jeans, use invention produced in the USA. You love and need American but don't know it, like fish need water and does notice it.
fudgedonkey I’m glad you’re not American too. We need fewer left wingers.
Simple solution. Stop anti-family Title IV-D money incentives. Call Congress today. Mothers need to respect and love the father. Children need both of their own parents in the home. Moral decay. Stop buying votes which enslave.
some European-Americans should come back and rebuild Europe with a Progressive mindset
The poor we will always have with us. I pray Gods’ will over all of OUR lives. Amen 🙏 I pray that those who are being withstood and trying again will have the breakthroughs that they need at the right time. Amen 🙏
Can you still be on Public Assistance if you live off minimum wage?
Yes it depends on how many dependants you have.
Yes
And ask any vet if he enjoys his social program VA benefits and any recipient of medicare if they enjoy their, social program benefits and any SS recipient if they enjoy their social program benefits. And I, who as a nurse for 35 years, who paid my dues, if I get ill and have to be hospitalized run the risk of losing everything because of predatory billing practices by corporations who could care less about the public. It's obscene.
America is a mess. This is how you treat civilians?
Some Guy Sorry you're an American and you don't like what I said. But its true. Your country is a mess. You know it, I know it.
I don't know you, but you're probably smarter than your president. Congrats on the job opportunity.
TheSampLamp any dollar you save from not dispensing welfare to needy families gets eaten up by the money spent on Child Protective Services if those needy families can no longer feed their children so those children get taken into care, by the prison system where people in desperate poverty end up because they take illegal jobs to feed their families or where their children end up because growing up in poverty does have a correlation with ending up in prison, and by unpaid ER bills in public hospitals from families that cannot afford medical care.
Many countries have proven that you save money through preventative spending by getting people out of desperate situations. Ultimately all cutting down cash benefits to needy families or single individuals does is push the cost of their poverty further down the line. The taxpayer still ends up paying but because the problem is compounded by then they end up paying more.
Winston the spending problem is not on our welfare programs but our military and wars. These few recent wars alone cost us trillions and trillions of dollars if we want to stop our our spending problem there is only one thing we need to severely reduce it and that is end our wars the war in afganistan cost us probably trillions of dollars alone
@@redhillbones7672 if what you said were true, wouldn't the Western European countries spend less as a percentage of their GDP on social programs? They spend more, not less.
marksuave25 yeah but a lot of Them still have lower debt
Don't you just love it when rich powerful people say poor people don't need help? This is exactly what has been going on here in the UK, it's sickening. It's disgusting.
Its sickening when the welfare queens want to use my money
8.00 / hr as a single parent head of house hold?
I work as a Cashier, but I am a single widow but seems harder today, I'm getting older.
Get a skill. Single parent will make alot more than 8.00 / hr with a skill.
@@scheirerjeanie1 Cashier may have good work ethic and be dedicated to their job, but it's an UNSKILLED job.......and it will always get minimum wage unskilled pay.....and it should. Learn a more advanced skill/vocation = higher pay.
End Welfare.
I don't think that the education system teach the young enough about self sufficiency. There is a lot of value in agricultural education, handyman skills, home economics, and other skills to keep people from being dependent on government handouts. Many times those handouts help fund corporations that provide people goods and services to live when they did not need to purchase them in the first place.
No one talks about how cutting welfare guarantees a desperate class of people who will work at low-paid jobs, which benefits employers and helps to create income inequality. I think there is a connection between welfare reform and stagnant wages. The fewer options a population has the more their employers profit from them. Every politician from Reagan to Trump is cutting welfare. (Maybe not Obama. He spent more on food stamps, but he never restored other programs that had been cut.)
That's the exact reason republicans hate welfare.
Because poor people won't work for slave wages if they have government benefits
I can only assume that the wealthy either don't watch programs like this, or limit their guilt to a few bucks to their local charity! It is a SHAME that a nation would treat it's people like this, but poor people stay strong! The Bible tells us how hard it will be for a rich man to get into heaven!
Amen to that
That almost makes me wish I believed in Heaven.
No one: If we cannot resolve the problem of poverty, we can resolve impoverished people
This is where the homeless explosion began.
My mom was a single parent after my father died when I was 2 months old. She never got any assistance from the government or from family. She worked 2, sometimes 3 jobs at a time, our rent was always paid on time. We didn't go on vacations, we never went to eat out, not even McDonald's. My clothes were from Wal-Mart and Goodwill. I found a hob right after the recession. I have a high school diploma. That's it. My point is... it can be done... you can fend for yourself... but it is hardwork... hard work most people in my community seem not to want to put in. Also... if you are struggling to get by... why continue breeding?! It doesn't make any sense.
I agree they shouldn't keep having children if they can't afford it, but there are plenty of mothers doing what your mum did, and I am willing to bet your mother got a partner later on in life that helped her.
So the problem was the HOUSE BUBBLE not the bill itself. Nice.
“There is an overarching mindset, that public assistance should be temporary, that it should be reserved for the most needy, and that we should help people get on their way.”
He says this as if that’s a bad thought process… that tells the full story.
"why should we pay for you to sit at home"
Because my mother couldn't work. She was disabled. Her bones where so weak she struggled to even stand. She lost her job as a nurse after she had me and my siblings, she got so weak she lost her life at the age of 53
The family should have cared for her and her kids. Not the taxpayer's job.
@@GreeneyedkittyNKimJongMeow She did do her time by working & paying into this ungrateful welfare system but look at where it got her in the end! You should carefully think before you reply because you're not helping the situation. What if this where your family member or someone close to you?
@@dannettejackson202he lacks empathy
My husband and I went to prep school and went to good colleges. NO ONE WANTS TO HIRE YOU WHEN YOU'RE 50+ years old.
I've been through 2 well respected job training programs. We have 2 small businesses and my husband works 60--70 hours a week. Sometimes 80 hours per week. We work in the gig economy. No pension, no insurance for him. We are one emergency away from being on the street.
Why do stats show such low unemployment? Does that include part-time workers and people who work 3 jobs?
I love it when they call it entitlements. I'm from a leafy, mc mansion suburb. There is nothing like the entitlement of the rich and the upper middle class
We could house everyone esp in tiny houses. We could find some work for people and not through just socialism.
Work is empowering and therapeutic. Employment agencies are scams. Clinton and Gingrich both serial philanderers and Vietnam draft dodgers and should be ashamed of themselves.
And why were the bankers and wall street who ran this country into the ground not punished but rewarded! house in tMy husband lost his house in the collapse and someone flipped it for 3-4X the price it was worth in 2008.
I know what it feels like to be in free fall and not be wanted. And when you haven't worked in a long time you get discouraged and it is hard to maintain the ability to keep good work habits. I have no idea of how we'll make it and I don't want to live off the govt dime. They'll probably euthanize the poor, sick elderly in 20 years. It could really happen.
Shout this from the rooftops! Homelessness isn't always about "bad choices", the society we live in and the government provides the environment for people to struggle as well.
Arizona has a HUGE anchor baby population, and it's the resentment about THAT that is driving their welfare policies. Only children born to AMERICANS should be eligible for assistance.
Nobody wants to talk about that but yes that is the crux of much of this resentment
It's so nice of mothers have to be at work so they don't have to be with their kids, it's a win-win scenario. I also like seeing old people living in the bushes too because they are too poor.
This bill of Clinton's was a horror! I was SHOCKED that a Democrat was responsible for this reform! Is it "better for moms and their kids" for them to be at work all day? I am really concerned that Hillary (not that she is her husband) but she is so centrist, that I really am considering Berney! I was fortunate enough that I was on welfare as a single mom and stayed home with him for 3 years, after which I attended a community college for free, and graduated from the nursing program there, and I got off of welfare. The military is what sucks up all of our tax money, NOT the welfare system! Plus it employs many people who work in the social services fields. I year? It was 2years when President Clinton changed it from no limit. I received $650 dollars a month for my son and I, and If it weren't for my mom and dad helping me, I would have had to give my son up. As an adoptee myself, that was NOT what I wanted to do! This is just a horrible shame. The piece of pie that the welfare slice takes out of our taxes is VERY minor! 3/4 of it is mi;military! A BIG piece is going for a relatively small war.
You're right hon. And last week the pentagon announced a loss of 6.4 Trillion dollars! They just don't know where it went! If it were any other industry, it would be called embezzlement.
Its not the government's responsibility to take care of you. A whole generation of people just don't understand that. If you are in no place to take care of your self let alone a kid why the hell have one or adopt one. If I was in charge I end all welfare guarantee you people would find a job like that.
@overlordthe1st Poor people need welfare because the entire economy is rigged and the entire economy is crony capitalism. In a REAL FREE MARKET, corporations wouldn't have rights as people, there would be no fiat currency, no business regulations, no inflated assets prices by the fed, no corporate welfare, no limited liability, no bailouts, no giveaways, trade, banking and the tax code wouldn't be written by transnational corporation lobbyists, etc. First of all, the 2008 bailout on the books & off the books according to Bloomberg's lawsuit, Dylan Ratigan, and Alan Greyson's research is 26 trillion and counting! The Federal Reserve expanding it's balance sheet to over 4 trillion by buying toxic assets off the banks with QE1, QE2, QE3. Research and Development through the DARPA program at the Pentagon estimated is several trillion! Open up an IPhone and every component was development with a government grant.6 to 8 trillion in tax havens for transnational corporations. The promotion of imports and loans to foreign corporations through the import/export bank is in the hundreds of billions. Drug research and development through the National Institute of Health that drug companies privatize for medications by tax money is over 1 trillion. Natural Resources purchased by mining companies on federal land because of an 1872 mining laws and paying $5 an acre while gaining hundreds of billions in gold, silver, copper, etc.! Trillions of dollars through the military industrial complex, trillions in tax pay money supporting NAFTA, the IMF, World Bank, Bank for international Settlements, the world economic forum, and the world trade organization. The Swiss Federal institute of technology's report on the network of global corporate control which outlines the top 200 transnational corporations control 80% of the global wealth. Now do you get it? The entire system is rigged, that's why the 10 richest people have the net worth as the GDP of Sweden. So, learn the system before you open your mouth!
I make the minimum wage and still I need to work 2 jobs to pay for my rent, bills, transportation, food, clothing, shoes. If I asked for help assistance with one job they had tell me that I make too much money for them to help me and that is why I have to work two to 3 jobs to support my family. My daughter has a bachelors degree and still can’t find a job where we live because is a small town or they tell her she doesn’t have experience. So now she needs to get on school loan to get a masters degree to help her get a job and better pay.
It's not the government's job to pay your way through life.
When it all boils down to you are responsible for yourself and your family both your children and your parents when they age and are unable to do for themselves it is supposed to be the responsibility of the eldest son to take care of the parents, but I'd rather it be the responsibility of all siblings to care for their aging parents.
If you pay taxes cradle to grave, the government is supposed to take care of you cradle to grave.
I work with poor people every day. Generational poverty and generational welfare is a problem. People on SSI actually meet on disability dating sites. Iused to wonder how grandparents are getting SSI for being bipolar and live with their kids and grandkids---all who "have bipolar." Call and ask them about how they are paying expenses. "I get my welfare." That means "Temporary" assistance for needy families. But it is often not temporary. Welfare has created an underclass. They are afraid to stop out and work. Like kids who are afraid to ride a bike by themselves. They would rather live in subsidized housing in poverty, rather than work and be on their own.
There are two separate welfare programs. AFDC before 1996 Aid to Families With Dependent Children was not temporary. TANF after 1996 Temporary Aid to Needy Families is now temporary. The problem is that people get these programs mixed up.
AFDC only allowed for a one year job training program. You could not even get a 2 year degree, or they would threaten to cut your checks. Women are treated so poorly in this country. It's disgusting.
We need a worldwide change when it comes letting politicians be in control of the purse strings because they are only going to things that will benefit their re-election.
Why were clips from 2008 filtered like HD content wasn't the norm back then?
What the guy with the world's craziest eyebrows doesn't understand - is that it wasn't the welfare itself that didn't work, it was the *incentive* to work, and *actual pay* of jobs that was the problem.
A system based on financially persuading those who can work, to work - with a guaranteed income and clear-as-day wage difference in having a job - is the way.
Say everyone gets a basic income (instead of credits and handouts), you have enough to survive. Then add that on top of minimum wage - there's a clear improvement - and a reason to work (and that's only implying people work because they *have to* ). On top of that, there should be efforts to expand apprenticeships, job opportunities and increase pay to be more supportative.
c a t Supportative? Something tells me I should just disregard your comment entirely.
No one will work if they get free money instead. The numbers prove the vast majority of single moms were more than capable of working. I lived in a building with 45 apartments and I was the only one working. When they all got their assistance, they took a taxi to their dealer's house, then to the liquor store then to the store to buy a carton of cigarettes and partied for 3 days until the money was used up.
Some friendly advice my Grandma gave my cousin, if you keep having kids either get a job or your tubes tied. Very sage advice.
sounds like the moral high road
Welfare isn’t intended to be the sole generation income for families.
It is now, times change.
can we acknowledge those eyebrows though
Ellie Lawson
Yup. Looking like a wise dragon lol 🐲
Welfare should have always been limited. Now, people are having kids for the extra check. We need SERIOUS reform to this day.
Women and government depend on dads who are on child support with out child support the system would hurt severely
I have a job, and I still need food assistance just to get by and being pregnant does not help you qualify for food assistance. Also in order to get cash assistance you need to either be working a part-time job or eventually pay the money back. So essentially it’s a loan, helpful when your desperate but in the end it’s not much of a difference.
kommisar um.... I never said I was pregnant. 🤔 I just said being pregnant does not help you qualify. But nice to know you wouldn’t help pro-lifers if they asked for help knowing well they couldn’t get help with government assistance. Just sayin’.
@@moon2night760
Why SHOULD being pregnant help you qualify?
Do not have expensive kids when you are ALREADY poor!
Marlon Moncrieffe Reiterate: “I never said I was pregnant.”
Also woman SHOULD have access to proper food/diet to provide a healthy newborn if they choose to go full term with the pregnancy. Woman who do not have access to a proper diet while pregnant run risk of health complications during pregnancy leading to more clinical/hospital visits in case of an at risk pregnancy.
If you are Pro-Life or Pro-Choice you must understand every human being deserves a chance regardless of how much income you make. That’s why we have these programs.
@@moon2night760
I know. I got that part. I was using the royal you.
Fine. Get prenatal care. I am pro-universal healthcare anyway.
But if you can't afford to raise your child, give the child up for adoption or social services. What are you (royal you again) even doing getting yourself knocked up when you can't afford a child anyway?
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 you don't understand how inhumane that sounds. Who are YOU to say who can and cannot have children? Where's the "freedom" that the United States promotes in your statements?
Was a professional... now I had injuries 🦋. Thanks bill
Correct me if Im wrong... But if the GOVERNMENT helps people off welfare trains them and finds the a job them said people can contribute by the way of taxes and consumption and actually make money for the GOVERNMENT... And better yet if said GOVERNMENT pays a monthly for people that cannot work said people can again also contribute to a CAPITALISTIC society by spending said money.... Soooo????? What's the problem here.??.
Job availability
@@christianschwalbach7561 job creation and growth grows with demand.. all the GOVERNMENT needs to do is help small businesses thrive instead of taxing mom and pop businesses to extinction.
Entitlement reform = find savings off the backs of the poor and middle class for huge tax breaks for the wealthiest amongst us.
Wish they'd reform the food stamp program. The amount of customers i deal with that buy soda, and candy with food stamps is disgusting. The government shouldn't pay for some non-essentials like lollipops, and chocolate.
An old comment, but I am going to respond. Have you ever considered those are luxuries? I buy my fresh veg, meat, at the grocers, and sometimes I'll go get a cookie or something after the fact. You really cannot consider its the only thing they buy with their stamps. And some people I find are not educated about food. That's another thing we as a society don't have any nutritional education in school. You cannot fault people for not being taught at an early age how to budget or be educated on food.
Because then poor kids don't deserve treats too??? In the richest country in the world? Our children can't have a goodies? Wow. But we are a great country.... If you have the money.
Some of them sell there food stamps like for example 50 dollars will get you 100 dollars you get me i seen it
@@wontbefooledagain9400i dont give a fvck about "your" children. Pay for your own sweets
Welfare was never an entitlement
I will never understand why the poor continue to have children, and subject them to such deplorable conditions. In short, it’s humanly selfish.
It’s a check for 18 years they work for 9 months
@@thatninja8458: 😂😂...!!!!
I have been approached multiple times by people wanting to trade their food stamps for cash. Is this right?
I did everything I could to stay off welfare. Marry a man who is a good man. Don't have children out of wedlock. Get a trade, or a good job. My husband and I had five jobs between us one time. I'm sorry if I don't feel bad for you. It's supposed to be used for a short time.
My Mind and heart are battle while watching this video
Why?
Not sure how Clinton was seen as a hero in this story. To me it goes hand in hand with his crime policy as two of his most disappointing.
When Clinton signed into the law federal crime bill crime was already on its way down, politicians turn around and say "crime went down because of my crime bill". When welfare reform was passed the economy was getting better, when the jobs situation gets better you both have fewer people on unemployment and on some form of welfare. Then you have politicians who will jump and say "my reforms put Americans back to work", while it fit a narrative it was used though now that this is obviously not true it just gets ignored. Seeing Clinton talk about poor people weren't the problem anymore really sums it up, to view it that way protects his legacy however the truth is the problem wasn't the poor.
Yeah, he had to prove to a country that was bi partisan at the time that he could make those choices. The Crime bill is 100 percent inexcusable. But he didn’t start that. Nixon did with the War on Drugs in 1968. Then Regan pushed it further in the 80s. Clinton just made it worse. But this welfare bill goes to show that Republicans will say anything. Right now Kanye is running around saying the Democrats push welfare for votes when it’s literally the opposite. The Democrats are the ones who killed a lot of things about Welfare.
I spent 25 years in government because of welfare to work.... Thank you sir🫂
We didn't fix the biggest problem. If we sincerely do not want children living in poverty then we need to convince people to wait to have children until they are financially stable and in stable relationships. Until we establish a strong social attitude that children deserve to be born into stability then we will continue to see large numbers of children living in poverty. And yes we can create that attitude, we did it with smoking. We did it with fur. We did it with child support. We can do it with this if we want too. We need to make sure it's not just mothers but fathers who are expected to be part of the change.
Bill Clinton did a great service to USA with this welfare reform and good mid 90's economy. Thats all. Thanks Bill..
The way to end Welfare is to reform schools to a Creative standpoint and we can first end High School Drop Outs, encourage people to be in higher education and rise graduation rates and we can help people end poverty and welfare with the issue that's behind it and its the poor state of still using the Prussian Factory Education System. We can fix all of these issues if all U.S citizens finally rise up and get to the root of the problem and its Education.
Clinton was very active to help with outsourcing. And the helped to remove a safety stops for the banks and big finance. Like Greenspan libertarian ideologue said about Clinton: He was a good conservative. (or Republican - I would say he was a Republican).
No government programs to help unskilled workers get trained to work a job.