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  • In the 1960s, fears of overpopulation sparked campaigns for population control. But whatever became of the population bomb?
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  • @abcdefgold
    @abcdefgold 6 ปีที่แล้ว +671

    I misheard 'a tax on children' as 'attacks on children' and I was like harsh lol

    • @kelseycoca
      @kelseycoca 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Eh, they're kind of the worst lol

    • @berttheace
      @berttheace 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is a Masterplan ‘‘ YES WE CAN 2016 - 2116 ‘‘ and it is an encouragement for mankind to save a sustainable biosphere on earth as our base of life by a free decision : th-cam.com/video/i48bb22fPdI/w-d-xo.html And a sustainable biosphere is the most important HUMAN RIGHT .

    • @montyparata4914
      @montyparata4914 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      HAHA go home language you are drunk :P

    • @RosyOutlook2
      @RosyOutlook2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@berttheace there's a depopulation, totalitarian green wash climate change agenda and it's because the powers that shouldn't be no longer need humans. A human right is not having our weather and climate modified, not being fried with wifi and 5G, not having food crops peverted, not being & not forced vaccinated.

    • @lennoxtrials1599
      @lennoxtrials1599 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Feels good to know Im not the only one who thought so as well.

  • @johnedward9011
    @johnedward9011 5 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    I remember clearly in college and late high school hearing over and over again from teachers and professors that the "population explosion" would end in disaster. My father's response was that "extrapolating any trend to infinity will show you disaster." My father was wrong about a lot of things back then. I've got to give him credit when he nailed one.

    • @DSQueenie
      @DSQueenie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      chris doheny true but our methods of farming and care in many countries has kept pace with that growth. A bigger problem now is a low birth rate.

    • @JuanIzar
      @JuanIzar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, the jury is still out on that one. The planetary boundaries are well studied system limits, and the world is well past the danger zone on some of them. The timelines for geological changes are very long and feedback loops take a while to manifest.

    • @hus390
      @hus390 ปีที่แล้ว

      If we haven't found new means to increase yield of agriculture crops like wheat, and developed better seeds and fertilizers, I think we would have been doomed by now with by the +7 billions population of our planet.

    • @electrictroy2010
      @electrictroy2010 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most environmentalists say the planet is definitely overpopulated & therefore a low birth rate is good. Less people == less pollution & less global warming
      .

  • @Glassandcandy
    @Glassandcandy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    Population growth anxiety often functions as a dog whistle for eugenics. Notice how some of them say they want "less and better children" better being the keyword there

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I definitely noticed that. In addition, he only felt this anxiety upon seeing a crowded Dehli street. Sure, it's not explicitly a racial panic, and I don't think Erlich is a racist, but the undertones are unfortunately still there, and his plans have very racialized impacts.

    • @danieldimos123
      @danieldimos123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sub-Saharan African population has almost doubled in the last ten years from 900 million to 1.5 billion, in the next ten years it will be 3 billion, making up soon after that the majority of the population of the planet. Most of their population growth has depended on outside aid and has completely destroyed the efforts of the western entities such as the US to end poverty in the region, programs that have been in effect for most of the past three decades. Combine this with the failures of local indigenous populations to keep up with the supply of food by agricultural means by confiscating white owned farms and farmlands and handing them over the the indigenous peoples to operate, ie Zimbabwe and white farmers fleeing on mass from South Africa leading to the worst social and economic conditions seen in the region's lifetime. Plus the countries of Africa have been entirely decimated economically and credit-wise as well with massive debts being attributed to the local governments owed to larger entities such as the US, Europe and China, who are using Africa as collateral. And you have a bomb waiting to go off. But some believe that the native population will not just stay in their own countries to starve off until the population returns to a natural sustainable level before any economic or political recovery could occur, but that most of the 3 plus billion will migrate, not to the Middle East or Asia, parts of the world well known for their human rights abuses and general racial attitudes, but they will go up and flood Europe, whom if you have seen recently has been handing out aslyum to anyone and everyone. But these have only been a couple 100,000 or million people every year, imagine half a billion a year. Africa can get itself out of this but it must become self efficient and stop relying on western intervention.

    • @om7303
      @om7303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I believe he meant better as in, if people have one child vs 3, they can better provide for the one and produce a more productive future adult.

    • @covenawhite4855
      @covenawhite4855 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danieldimos123 A lot of Oil and Diamonds come from the poor African Countries.

    • @melvinklark4088
      @melvinklark4088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danieldimos123 that only happened in one country though

  • @neeneko
    @neeneko 6 ปีที่แล้ว +276

    A good cautionary tale of what can happen when an expert in one field believes that makes them an expert in other fields, and presents an argument only compelling enough to speak to other non-experts. We love the myth of the outsider coming in and shaking up complacent fields, but the majority of the time they have no idea what they are talking about.

    • @andrefu4166
      @andrefu4166 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      u talking about someone specific??

    • @MamaLuvDuv
      @MamaLuvDuv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @011011 0110111 Al gore is the reason no one takes climate change as seriously as it is. 1. He over estimated how fast the changes would be. 2. He kept using a term not many scientists used by calling it "Global Warming" which even back then, not many scientific circles called it that as it sounds like the world would just get hot (which the menian temperature of the entire earth is getting hotter but that actually translates out to wilder more unpredictable weather patterns and natural disasters like mass floods and more mass wild fires. It also means that places that once were grass lands will become either deserts or possible rainforests at the Climate shifts world wide, making areas once dry wet and areas once wet dry ect. The reason this is a catasrophe is that in normal timeframes of previous climate changes, these events took millions of years, which we are now seeing happen in decades. Meaning life has no real time to evolve with the changes.)

    • @joelwillems4081
      @joelwillems4081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@andrefu4166 Yea, Ehrlich. Not sure how much an expert he was in his field of Butterflies, but he's utterly failed at being a Doomsayer. Gotten rich and influential on being wrong but he's still stupid. His research is sketchy and his sources are either wrong, or too simplified. He's lost bets with more intelligent people that proves how wrong he is. He know longer has the courage to put his money where his mouth is.

    • @nexus6163
      @nexus6163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If the facts contradict the legend,
      Print the legend

    • @hus390
      @hus390 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joelwillems4081 If we haven't found new means to increase yield of agriculture crops like wheat, and developed better seeds and fertilizers, I think we would have been doomed by now with by the +7 billions population of our planet.

  • @arraiacc
    @arraiacc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    So basically one man's culture shock started this all?

    • @wacktus8507
      @wacktus8507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      exactly i dont understand how ignorant people were this guy literally said just trust me and everyone did ahahah

    • @robertortiz-wilson1588
      @robertortiz-wilson1588 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul Ehrlich and others are some of the most vile human beings to ever live. The same goes for all the dumb sheep that followed them to a lesser extent.

    • @hus390
      @hus390 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wacktus8507 If we haven't found new means to increase yield of agriculture crops like wheat, and developed better seeds and fertilizers, I think we would have been doomed by now with by the +7 billions population of our planet.

  • @benpalmer7596
    @benpalmer7596 5 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    2:48 "the world population is getting out of control"
    *looks to see clock at 3.6 billion*
    Hahahahahahahahahahaha

    • @pigio9033
      @pigio9033 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      8 billion now

    • @ShaunDreclin
      @ShaunDreclin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Our global population has already been calculated to cap out at about 11 billion when every nation in the world is developed as much as the usa/canada/etc

    • @elladickson586
      @elladickson586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pigio9033 7.9

  • @W411Y93
    @W411Y93 5 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    Thanos that you?

    • @hassanabdulahi4705
      @hassanabdulahi4705 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂

    • @smtrm212
      @smtrm212 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marvel changed original idea and brought back malthusian idea for villain's purpose.

    • @ProlificThreadworm
      @ProlificThreadworm 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just less logical

  • @plasterdbastard
    @plasterdbastard 9 ปีที่แล้ว +328

    While population is a definite issue the globe over, Ehrlich's prescriptions are so completely unethical it's painful...

    • @valhalla1240
      @valhalla1240 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      and his name is so german it's painful to ignore...

    • @tuele4302
      @tuele4302 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      There's nothing wrong with a German name. While he might have been a little overenthusiastic, his message deserved attention.

    • @u.2b215
      @u.2b215 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      "Tue Le" Why would Ehrlich's genocidal message deserve any attention other than to be aware that his madness exists in the world?

    • @natevanderw
      @natevanderw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Are you kidding me? Unethical? What is unethical is there being 7 billion people on this planet sucking it dry. Fortunately due to urbanization, the world population should stabilize at around 11 billion in 2100. However, the earth is only sustainable (>1000 years) for humans at a population of 1 billion or so. SO TELL ME HOW HE IS UNETHICAL

    • @g4training
      @g4training 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Technology bought us a little more time nothing more. We are not in balance with nature. Instead we are basically sucking the life out of the planet to sustain 7.5B people. We are emitting massive amounts of carbon, ripping down forests, depleting the soil and fishing out the sea all while poisoning the planet. We are a ticking time bomb.

  • @hkm_865
    @hkm_865 8 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    The cost of living is so high now in developed countries that the population is going to plateau

    • @mercedescl
      @mercedescl 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      As family size shrinks and education period lengthens across the globe, population will decline in the long term like Japan or China.

    • @logic7374
      @logic7374 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah and then we're going to be outnumbered by poor people in Africa and South America. Yippee.

    • @hassanabdulahi4705
      @hassanabdulahi4705 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And when Africa develops the population there will plateau

    • @JDtimesten
      @JDtimesten 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@logic7374 And those people will be invited into North America and Europe under the guise of altruism. They're cheap labor, more dependent on government, more tribal, and less demanding of civil rights.

    • @2126Eliza
      @2126Eliza 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Logic That's fine. You know those are other human beings, right? They're not a different species

  • @Anthony-hu3rj
    @Anthony-hu3rj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I was 11 years old when Erlach's book came out and it appeared on the news. I remember crying and crying because the world was going to end before I hardly grew up.

    • @phoque121
      @phoque121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You know... for a lot of people it did. I mean, when a child with several siblings dies from starvation, the world did end for him, before he grew up

    • @joecole7122
      @joecole7122 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It turned out he was wrong.

    • @electrictroy2010
      @electrictroy2010 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A person dying prematurely =/= the world ending. Life will continue onward another 500 million years just as it has existed the last 500 million years

    • @joecole7122
      @joecole7122 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@phoque121 Who are you talking about?

    • @freddyfurrah3789
      @freddyfurrah3789 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

  • @adamjohns78
    @adamjohns78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Back when the NYT did journalism… (6 years ago) pointing out how poorly agencies did journalism 6 decades ago…

  • @JerryTerrifying
    @JerryTerrifying 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "I bet England wont exist in the year 2000. Well it did exist in the year 2000 but that was only 14 years ago." Get a load of this guy. His prediction didnt come true and it's still not true a DECADE AND A HALF LATER and this in his mind is some kind of vindication?

  • @DuckyHellBird
    @DuckyHellBird 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "The idea that every women can have as many babies as she wants ..." Excuse you what about men?!?!

  • @madisonashton1750
    @madisonashton1750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The fact that he knows what he said led to forced sterilization and he doesn't care is a red flag. I get a very misogynistic feeling from him. The fact that he said "The idea that every woman ought to have as many babies as she wants [is crazy]" and not using the word people instead of woman seems like a big red flag.

  • @amydee0074
    @amydee0074 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Meanwhile the US cities are cleaner than they have ever been. I remember driving to Boston with my parents on the weekends and seeing the cloud around it. It’s crystal clear now.

    • @taltalmilal5495
      @taltalmilal5495 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They cleaned up the weather?

    • @colorado1164
      @colorado1164 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Last time I drove through Boston I saw multiple people wearing banana suits in 80 degree weather

    • @galadhremmin
      @galadhremmin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      yeah, you just export it to China and Vietnam. Happy?

    • @PirateNikki
      @PirateNikki 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol where did you get this info from? Fox news? Have you been to salt lake? During the winter when wet gret inversion, the air is considered worse than Beijing. Have you been to LA lately?

    • @alek488
      @alek488 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nikki Píŕáťé Most of LA’s air pollution blows in from China

  • @theanimerican
    @theanimerican 9 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    It's odd to see him feel concerned with the idea that a woman should be allowed as many children as she wants. From what I've read and seen about the subject, the general amount of children wanted doesn't seem to be as high as he probably believes.

    • @natevanderw
      @natevanderw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It is different now compared to back then due to urbanization

    • @avamasquerade
      @avamasquerade 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He's not concerned with what anyone wants, he's concerned with acquiring the megalomaniacal power to choose for them.

    • @Meekseek
      @Meekseek 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ava Masquerade yes indeed, that's exactly what he and his many elite cohorts
      want a one world order totalitarianism under the governance of the UN.
      Meet Paul Ehrlich, Pseudoscience Charlatan- th-cam.com/video/ZS6EGoTuWNY/w-d-xo.html
      Why Big Oil Conquered The World - th-cam.com/video/0wlNey9t7hQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @Meekseek
      @Meekseek 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only difference is the birth rate is DOWN.

    • @abipereiraof
      @abipereiraof 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      theanimerican Yeah, we already have a natural deterrent: the actual birth process lol. Usually it’s the man who wants to “carry on the family name” or something. Easy for him!

  • @isaacarteaga1
    @isaacarteaga1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    If this guy is so overwhelmed by over population then he can go out first
    Lead by example

  • @kelseycoca
    @kelseycoca 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I have ten siblings and I think that there is no need for more than two children. A few of my siblings have large families because they kept having unplanned pregnancies. Ten more children were brought into the world by three of my siblings. That's not even including my other siblings' children...You have to consider the resources each person that is brought into this world will use. When you fail to do that as a parent you're being incredibly selfish and irresponsible. There should be better access for contraceptives and better sexual education for men and women. But there needs to be a cultural shift so people will use them, too!

    • @sydIRISH
      @sydIRISH 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Maybe leave everyone's family business up to them? You have your opinions, I respect that. Everyone has the right to have big families. Not everyone is guilty of having a good, happy life. I'm not...you only get one, so enjoy it. People are too worried about what's wrong, instead of what's actually good. If you have 10 siblings, you're probably fine. Stop with the guilt, it doesn't solve a thing. You can't save babies half way around the world. I wish we could...but it's out of our control. It's just the way of the world. Do what YOU can, leave others be. In a world where children get bone cancer, brain cancer, IN AN ONLY CHILD HOME, fair doesn't exist. Some of us are just doomed. Accept that you're going to die, your life will be better. No fear. Sorry for the doom and gloom.

    • @TheMedicatedArtist
      @TheMedicatedArtist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      sydIRISH It’s disgusting that people willingly bring children into this world knowing that they can barely afford to take care of their self.

    • @PirateNikki
      @PirateNikki 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ugh im sorry. If i were you I'd be slipping birth control in all your siblings food.

    • @PirateNikki
      @PirateNikki 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMedicatedArtist right??
      People should have to take a common sense test before they're allowed to breed. As well as prove they can financially take care of it.
      An iq test would be nice too...
      And people should have to adopt a child if they just muuust be selfish and make a little them. It's like theres million of kids with out parents thst would love to have a mom and dad. Why do you NEED to pass down your genetics? People think they're so special and the world needs to have a piece of them in it when they pass on. It's like no, no you don't.

    • @Meekseek
      @Meekseek 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Consider that you are brainwashed fool

  • @YT-Trenton
    @YT-Trenton 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    That is the dark side of population control. If a country reaches ZPG, they will eventually have a population full of old people. That younger generation then has to pick up the slack by paying more for social programs for the elderly, which is BAD for socialistic societies.

  • @chistinelane
    @chistinelane 6 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    Oh it's still happening. It's just affecting nature and wildlife

    • @tuele4302
      @tuele4302 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Indeed. It would be deeply ironic for humanity to reproduce itself into extinction, wouldn't it?

    • @gothlolic8
      @gothlolic8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Overpopulation is 100% fantasy.

    • @ladyreverie7027
      @ladyreverie7027 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The thing is, the people with the highest population growth (developing countries, people in poverty) are not the ones destroying nature and wildlife and are not the ones primarily responsible for climate change.

    • @jakkew5753
      @jakkew5753 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Laura Athena the fear should be that they will get to that point, following in the path of developed countries.

    • @dannynicastro3207
      @dannynicastro3207 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tue Le ....interesting thought. Truly.

  • @solodiamante
    @solodiamante 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This information is exactly what I was looking for my essay. Thanks

  • @sleeplessinthecarolinas8118
    @sleeplessinthecarolinas8118 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Thanks for creating this video! It is instructive to see how often the "experts" were wrong.

    • @dst1311
      @dst1311 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A lot of people fell for the experts' drivel in the past few years. I hope you didn't 👍

  • @vistazo9
    @vistazo9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Food prices keep going up, airports Freeways, subways overcrowded , but people still don't get the message an overcrowded planet !

  • @brunogiegerich6496
    @brunogiegerich6496 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fantastic documentary, well done

  • @maxheadrom3088
    @maxheadrom3088 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Indian lady is very wise! Families went to the around two children model by their own choice and available technologies. Most of population growth nowadays hapens due to better health and longer life expectancy.

  • @wacktus8507
    @wacktus8507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I understand Ehlrich is passionate but jesus hes straight endorsing eugenics

    • @KateFrancis-eo2rp
      @KateFrancis-eo2rp หลายเดือนก่อน

      People complain about eugenics, but they also complain about taxes and paying benifits!

  • @moemonte88
    @moemonte88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +257

    I can’t stop watching these clips..I’ve noticed most of them were fear based and led by the media a lot like today

    • @leoprice4685
      @leoprice4685 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Tim Tyson Climate change proven over and over again. Take UN warnings seriously. If anything, climate change has been under reported.

    • @JoeSrok
      @JoeSrok 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@tdtvegas Climate change is provable by science, so your comparison is false. There are mountains of published evidence in peer reviewed journals that prove the existence of man-made global warming.

    • @alek488
      @alek488 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Leo Price how do you believe the UN? Bruh

    • @Celisar1
      @Celisar1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Moe Yagz
      We are already suffering from the consequences of overpopulation . maybe you are not affected (yet) but many millions of people are. Don’t be ignorant and don’t call the ability to foresee problems “fear based”. It’s a sign of intelligence not to wait for a foreseeable catastrophe to happen but to do something to prevent it.

    • @petperthecommenter3364
      @petperthecommenter3364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its because stupid people like to latch onto causes, look at the climate hysteria and the people pushing it

  • @louisvillaescusa
    @louisvillaescusa ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Paul Ehlrich got two things wrong. The first was that he underestimated how many people the planet can actually support. The second was that he overlooked advances in technology that would massively increase supplies of food and water. India currently has almost 1.5 billion people and will probably overtake China as the country with the largest population in the world. But like with most things in life, there is no definite answer to the question of how sustainable population growth is. There are just too many variables. Just look at how totally unexpected the Covid disaster was. Obviously, there is a number of people that the planet can support at any given time and we need to be careful not to exceed that.

    • @mikeg8276
      @mikeg8276 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The third thing he got wrong was the ability of humans to change their behavior when circumstances change. As developing countries urbanized, families were never going to choose to have as many children, because they become a liability instead of the expanded labor they are in agrarian societies.

  • @baxtercat5462
    @baxtercat5462 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love the intro music where can I find it?

  • @hebneh
    @hebneh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:42 - I kept that issue of LIFE magazine (April 17, 1970) because there was an article in it about the father of one of my friends in high school, who appeared in some photos that were published with the article.

  • @stefanandersson7519
    @stefanandersson7519 6 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    "Look, this house is on fire! It's gonna burn down!"
    *starts raining*
    "Aha, it didn't burn down! Maybe... fire is good?"
    (I admit it's a complex issue, but saying that more people, while certainly not all bad, isn't harming our planet and testing the limits of what we can produce on finite space is just ignorant.)

  • @jakimson1994
    @jakimson1994 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    love these retro reports

  • @jilliansabetian7100
    @jilliansabetian7100 9 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    As for having babies being equivalent to throwing garbage in the neighbours yard....well..bravo Stanford for employing a such a revolutionary philosopher...

    • @mahyahtanshu5238
      @mahyahtanshu5238 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you suggest we quantify Earth's resources?

    • @natevanderw
      @natevanderw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      People have quantified this and for sustainability (>1000 years) we got enough stuffs for about a population of 1 billion

    • @gateauxq4604
      @gateauxq4604 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mayan Tanshu it would need to be a cross-discipline study to get a rough estimate of how much resources the earth can produce. One factor to study would be the economic side of the equation to figure out roughly how much food and materials the world is currently producing. That would be the easiest by far to quantify but also surveying farmable land across the planet. Thanks to technology though that mapping could probably be at least partially computer-assisted. Another set of numbers to gather would be the rough average of what a person will consume over their lifetime, the housing available in their countries, and what this average person would contribute to food and material production. That would still only be part of the measures to ensure that there is enough rations for everyone however since without government oversight no amount of research will be able to be put into practice across the entire planet.

    • @GereDJ2
      @GereDJ2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The global recovery equilibrium date has been established at near 1860. We've got some making up to do.

    • @alek488
      @alek488 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of people complain about over population but most of the land on earth is still not being used

  • @watchthe1369
    @watchthe1369 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember that stuff, efforts to manage it probably developed more efficiency. The compulsion stuff I regard as anathema, like I regard compulsory health care and compulsory greeness.

  • @whalefuhk
    @whalefuhk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This is what happens when scientists fail to connect empirical data with human empathy. His environmental consequence predictions are valid, but his failure to distinguish human rights from insect behavior is inexcusable.

    • @Twilit601
      @Twilit601 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He didn't predict the Green Revolution. Admittedly, without it, we'd be in a very tough spot.

    • @shaundevoy9307
      @shaundevoy9307 ปีที่แล้ว

      Marebear thank you for saying that. It's a matter of ethics, and empathy, not just data.

    • @danielmayeux2251
      @danielmayeux2251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Twilit601 there is ZERO proof to that

    • @Twilit601
      @Twilit601 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielmayeux2251 What

  • @signupstuff
    @signupstuff 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's interesting having remembered all sorts of sci-fi movies and TV shows at the time centered on overpopulation anxiety and only realizing much later where it all came from.

  • @ItsBlackjack115
    @ItsBlackjack115 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Brought to you by Soylent Green.

  • @AlexTuble
    @AlexTuble 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is pretty much eugenics. I hope no one will continue to entertain this idea.

  • @vistazo9
    @vistazo9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Governments, newscasters, religions, university's, even academicians AVOID AND CHOOSE NOT to talk about an overpopulated planet !

  • @bodeankit
    @bodeankit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm childless NO REGRETS

  • @RealShrigmaMale
    @RealShrigmaMale 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He keeps talking about how Britain's gonna collapse. Wait till he hears about Brexit.

  • @jonathanjeffer
    @jonathanjeffer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a hard time grocking that people think doubling the population since 1970 was a good idea

  • @trinaholman4083
    @trinaholman4083 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "And we go round and round and round in the circle game".

  • @PappyMandarine
    @PappyMandarine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wasn't contraception already available by then (the book was published in 1968). The fact that this video doesn't even mention the term contraception raises a few eyebrows

  • @superbaddctv
    @superbaddctv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The 2000's were nothing like they said it would be

  • @jacobklein8156
    @jacobklein8156 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's almost like technology progresses...

  • @TheLiamster
    @TheLiamster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:01 does anyone know the name of the background music?

  • @TheAhmedMAhmed
    @TheAhmedMAhmed 9 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    the forced sterilization efforts are appalling. Also the throwing your garbage in the neighborhood metaphor is devaluing humans. Though people as rational agents ought to think through the consequences of their decisions - including monitoring unreasonable population growth.

    • @GENERICCEREAL67
      @GENERICCEREAL67 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahmed Medhat Forced sterlization, at some point, will become unavoidable.

    • @TheAhmedMAhmed
      @TheAhmedMAhmed 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      when will that point come? "Forced" is never the right world to use, except when enforcing laws on corrupt governments and corporations. You could talk about the requirement for "better educated public instead".GENERICCEREAL67

    • @tuele4302
      @tuele4302 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Though people as rational agents ought to think through the consequences
      of their decisions - including monitoring unreasonable population
      growth." Since when are humans completely rational?

  • @MrDannyHeim
    @MrDannyHeim ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the population problem has not gone away

  • @WhoElseButMeNumbaOne
    @WhoElseButMeNumbaOne 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People that espouse such ideas should lead by example.

  • @sydIRISH
    @sydIRISH 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *FEAR: It's Good For Business.*

  • @songheeg1190
    @songheeg1190 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this video series. It's simply news-- not trying to persuade the viewers. Simply just facts.

    • @electrictroy2010
      @electrictroy2010 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh puleeze… news reporters are constantly biasing their stories to push their personal beliefs. This series is no different

    • @electrictroy2010
      @electrictroy2010 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a fact that Paul Ehrlich’s prediction was as wrong as the people who said the Earth would end in 2012. But this news video tries to make him look like a hero, when in reality he’s almost as buts as the 2012 doomsday people
      .

    • @electrictroy2010
      @electrictroy2010 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s called bias & pushing an agenda

  • @kalebmanning4425
    @kalebmanning4425 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “Fewer children and better ones.” Brand giving the Rockefeller eugenic game away.

  • @RuleofFive
    @RuleofFive 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Okay we went from 3.6 billion in 1969 to 7.5 billion in 2018......that's doubling in under 50 years.....that is an extrordinary strain on resources....

    • @ShivaShaktification
      @ShivaShaktification 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      exactly right.... Erlich was essentially correct about everything!

    • @robbenvanpersie1562
      @robbenvanpersie1562 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShivaShaktification still so many deniers in this section

  • @pandaloon6083
    @pandaloon6083 ปีที่แล้ว

    People have brains, not just stomachs.

  • @sidhuprakash1949
    @sidhuprakash1949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It takes just a farming season where pesticides fail against a new variety of pests or an Elnino or La Nino to start the adversary of a population Bomb. You never know.

  • @SolaceEasy
    @SolaceEasy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think this discussion misses an important point: What is the level of quality of life that is available to what percentage of the population? I think the greatest percentage of the population was going to be very stressed by environmental conditions, including the toxic effects on our DNA markers and tags which will cause an inordinate amount of disease that we cannot fix with drugs. There will be a lot of suffering, and not just because of resource depletion. The primary problem is because of the contaminants that we have introduced into the system and how all of life is crashing, not just humanity.

    • @m3po22
      @m3po22 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any decade now, we'll start to see it. I swear

  • @SilentRain97
    @SilentRain97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:46 - That guys sounds exactly like Thanos >_>

  • @custardODP1989
    @custardODP1989 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And how did his predictions turn out? He was wrong on numerous accounts. Control of population is the message. Not about growth.

    • @wacktus8507
      @wacktus8507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A science turned into a religion where the believers still cling to the doctrine, making new predictions to justify the original theory.

  • @donnahoworko5705
    @donnahoworko5705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He’s right. There are to many people on the planet. Natural or man made corrections will change it and the earth will still suffer as well as the poor

  • @samsteers8504
    @samsteers8504 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    GoT in the background

  • @simonb4664
    @simonb4664 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the painting at 6.34 ?

  • @kristenlonergan350
    @kristenlonergan350 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This doesn't factor in countries that a) have little to no access to birth control or b) have cultures which link a woman's ability to have children with her worth.

  • @peter_smyth
    @peter_smyth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    9:58 That's only 4 min 20 s to perform each surgery!

    • @KawaiiCat2
      @KawaiiCat2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Geeze, no wonder people died. Not to mention the doctor being tired from performing so many surgeries.

  • @MsNooneinparticular
    @MsNooneinparticular 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Look at the "cage homes" in Hong Kong & tell me this isn't a real issue. Or the decimation of wildlife, the crisis of climate change, pollution, war, resource plundering & everything else that comes with modern human life. Having 0-2 kids is the single most impactful thing you can EVER do to help the environment.

    • @runningfromabear8354
      @runningfromabear8354 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hong Kong attracts people who don't want to live in China and don't have the resources to elsewhere. Villages are emptying. The decimation of wildlife is greed. Our birth rates are below replacement levels all over the world. It's our death rates that have fallen causing the "growth". We're living longer all over the world. And we're staying old longer. Our bigger problem is our greed and lifestyle choices. Diets high in meat, disposable fashion, one use plastics, bizarre assumption that if it's recyclable, then it's okay, complete disregard for the other parts of the 3 R's. Recycle *reduce and reuse*. But we sure won't recycle water, no matter how safe it is. It's not a problem of how many children we have. If we everyone lived like the poor in Sierra Leone, the planet could support billions more people. The problem is how wasteful and destructive our lifestyles are. We find out how bad cars are for the environment but only address one part of the damage cars do to our environment, fuel. Instead of discussing our to make our cities more environmentally friendly, we get excited about electric cars. Electric cars are a band aid solution. We don't have ZPG, we have shrinking population but it doesn't matter how much your population shrinks if you are greedy and destructive and disrespectful to the environment.

  • @peter_smyth
    @peter_smyth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    1:57 "We'd like to see people have fewer children and better ones." Better children, how do you define that? I've found the eugenicist!

  • @johnhasty3411
    @johnhasty3411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8 billion people today … 3 billion people when I was born…. Why disaster was adverted was the use of mechanization of farm equipment allowing record breaking production of food.
    War, disaster, pandemics…. If anything disrupts this delicate balance a lot of people will starve.

    • @moaningpheromones
      @moaningpheromones 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      wrong it was the green revolution and the word is averted genius.

  • @ip2489
    @ip2489 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yes but look where we are now? They had a point!

    • @Maxime_K-G
      @Maxime_K-G 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep, climate change has become inevitable and it's gonna cost us all (well almost all anyways).

  • @samarramasengi8357
    @samarramasengi8357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the way this started cuz some guy was in a crowded city.
    (obvi this is an oversimplification)

    • @moaningpheromones
      @moaningpheromones 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      and today those cities are overcrowded, struggling, all have slums with millions in poverty and are disgusting.

  • @zainmudassir2964
    @zainmudassir2964 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now many countries have a population bust. Too few children and growing elderly population

  • @kazkk2321
    @kazkk2321 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Humanity will not listen by merely talking to them. We must push them

  • @annabelwingfield1556
    @annabelwingfield1556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find it funny how ehrlich is the German word for honest/genuine (pronounced air lish as in dish) and even the talk show host introduces him as err lick

    • @dst1311
      @dst1311 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It makes sense when you find out that he's j3wish

    • @ALIENDNA14
      @ALIENDNA14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dst1311
      Are you actually suggesting, that there might also be a pattern associated with certain Eugenicists, who also just so happen to be promoting the world-wide mass-genocide of the goyim? Hmmm...very interesting.

    • @montanus777
      @montanus777 ปีที่แล้ว

      in german the CH in ehrlich isn't pronounced like the SH in dish at all. there is no equivalent in the english language to pronounce this type of CH (there are two in german). it kind of sounds like a cat hissing instead.

  • @speedzero7478
    @speedzero7478 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nixon nailed it. Our planet can tolerate the current population, but look at how miserable most people live, even in the developed world (five hour traffic jams, etc)

  • @thebestofallworlds187
    @thebestofallworlds187 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:27 wow!

  • @420.........
    @420......... 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having more then 1 child is not a right, and having even a single child before you're ready is a crime against humanity, forced sterilization of people with multiple children is like saying be quite around a deaf man.

  • @lostinthelookingglas
    @lostinthelookingglas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Oh, great! Eugenics again!
    but actually, easy access to birth control and abortion would solve the problem.

    • @2126Eliza
      @2126Eliza 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      People who have several kids and can't care for them should be offered money to be sterilized

  • @abbaty
    @abbaty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who else noticed the huge collection of GRR Martin, A Song of Ice & Fire catalog at 8:55 ?

  • @AssadNizam
    @AssadNizam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The predictions weren't wrong..Norman Borlaug simply bought a few decades with his "Green Revolution" spreading industrial agriculture, raising agricultural yields at the expense of the long-term sustainability of those fields and wider ecosystems. Borlaug himself did what he did because HE knew that sooner or later we'd start seeing mass famines and social unrest. He himself admitted that the fundamental problem of overpopulation had not been solved, he'd merely bought a couple of decades during which the main problem of overpopulation had to be brought under control.
    Female education and empowerment & family planning are great, but they won't solve the problem fast enough. Capitalism still fundamentally relies on continued growth. More people, more consumption, more industrial agriculture, more fertilizers, more pollution, more deforestation, more more more.
    It's all gonna fall apart sooner or later. We can either edge ourselves back from the cliff, or blindly walk off, promising ourselves "jusq'ici, tout va bien"...
    "but the problem is not the fall, it's the landing."
    The water, chemical fertilizers and fossil fuels that enable industrial agriculture are finite. And that's to say nothing of the deplorable state of the climate and ecosystems we seem so set on destroying.

    • @KateFrancis-eo2rp
      @KateFrancis-eo2rp หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for this sensible comment!

  • @DeanBNE
    @DeanBNE 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s just a matter of time. Food, water, disease, war, global warming ...

  • @JJJJ-gl2uf
    @JJJJ-gl2uf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This report totally ignores the fact that many countries, mostly developing or less developed, are going to double their populations in the next 30-40 years. Look at sub-Saharan Africa as your starting point.

  • @USMCLP
    @USMCLP 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anybody know the outro song?

  • @MrPetzold123
    @MrPetzold123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not only was he wrong, he has a track record of *always* being wrong, worse than a stopped clock 😂...

  • @ProlificThreadworm
    @ProlificThreadworm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Paul ehrlich believes its okay to lie to people in order to motivate them in the 'correct' direction.

    • @wacktus8507
      @wacktus8507 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      he really said trust me and everyone did

  • @nevinkgeorge
    @nevinkgeorge 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this a copy/shortened version of the corbettreport 43 minute video on him? Lol

  • @tonycastellano7026
    @tonycastellano7026 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They were right, just off on how long it would take.

  • @lautrecc333
    @lautrecc333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this videos but I agree that we are so many. Less is more :)

  • @jacobmtcastle5741
    @jacobmtcastle5741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interestingly population growth had already peaked around the year 1963. Ever since, population growth in terms of percentage has been on the decline

  • @thebipolarbear1
    @thebipolarbear1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, first realistic thing I ever heard Nixon say. It's happening. In the US it's not much having families as it is being to globe's homeless shelter

    • @electrictroy2010
      @electrictroy2010 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes those countries in Central America keep having babies, and resolve the problem by dumping them in the US. It’s ridiculous
      .

  • @timeisrunningoutforthebeast
    @timeisrunningoutforthebeast 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @TheTarrMan
    @TheTarrMan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @2:25 He's dead on!

  • @Mcmatthew99
    @Mcmatthew99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    50 years later and the population has doubled yet we get along

    • @celieboo
      @celieboo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That isn't exactly a good thing.

    • @Mcmatthew99
      @Mcmatthew99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@celieboo What do you mean?

  • @citizenschallengeYT
    @citizenschallengeYT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    12:25 'in the 2050 we'll be running around, oh my god not enough people.' ~ Of course, that requires imagining nothing else changes, resource availability, clean sweet water, manmade global warming's cascading global and local consequences, civil/political hostility right and left. I myself think those left running around will have very different concerns that we can't even conceive. So glad I'm an old guy. Sorry kids, my generation blew it, Reagan's siren song and political powers and deep money, and massive public apathy, created this already too ugly future unfolding before our numb eyes.

  • @utkarshkumar612
    @utkarshkumar612 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Clearly Paul needs to APLOGIES to world for the panic he has caused, to families that went through inhumane surgery caused his BOGUS report.

  • @pandaloon6083
    @pandaloon6083 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ehrlich understands scare resources, but not the economics of scare resources.

  • @dbrandow
    @dbrandow 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In order to sustain agricultural levels at the rate they are now, we are draining our aquifers and using up the raw materials we need to make fertilizer. And the theory is once we start running out of water and fertilizer we'll wish we had *more* people? Sigh...

  • @marlonelias
    @marlonelias 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Economic development is the best contraception!.!.

  • @jaridkeen123
    @jaridkeen123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    We can make more food with Farming Skyscrapers, we dont need lawns we can grow Gardens at home, GMOs can make more food faster and with less water, we have other planets and moons to move to, we have a whole galaxy and Universe to spread out. I think the Earth can Support upwards of 100 Billion people. We can make more food, we just have to want to make more food

    • @TheSexyHexi96
      @TheSexyHexi96 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Until we havent found an other planet to live on or the transportation to get there, we better not include this into our options. But yes we have now more technology we had back than, which changed a lot of the predictions made and we probably can support more humans on earth.

  • @janetg3491
    @janetg3491 9 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Thursday is Soylent Green day.

    • @MikeKye200
      @MikeKye200 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tastes like people!

  • @Benstyping
    @Benstyping 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I find the picture at 6:27 ?

    • @Bmayo27
      @Bmayo27 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Benami Ark - It was painted by a retired geologist named John Holden.

    • @Bmayo27
      @Bmayo27 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you google image search “population bomb” a picture of that artwork should pop up.

  • @petercarioscia9189
    @petercarioscia9189 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now we know societies tend toward infertility as they experience progress and lowered child mortality....
    Families in Africa may have 10 children, but only because they can expect 8 of those children to not survive. America in the 19th century would typically have 5-6 children for the same reason; now in the 21st century, families average 1.76 children...that's not even enough to maintain population growth.
    For this reason, experts believe our population may never reach 10 billion; as countries develop and infant mortality drops, birth rates decline.