Yes, We Load Downhill - Cat D11R Loading 651E Scrapers

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  • @FlyinRaptorJesus
    @FlyinRaptorJesus 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i looove the clank of a dozer drivin across the ground. reminds me of when i was little going to work with my dad.

  • @blainekopp8988
    @blainekopp8988 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man good operaters are key and safe ride to go home at night, THANKS MEN ON MY CREW. God bless you all!!!

  • @ConstructionMachinesChannel
    @ConstructionMachinesChannel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super video. Great up close camera angle of awesome machines 👍

  • @gumarorivera2205
    @gumarorivera2205 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did that here in middle Tennessee!! Whit Jones Bros inc. I miss the big jobs we just to do!!! 777, ,,5130 an those big escapers. Really good jabs!! Good $$ too!!

  • @NORCOAIR
    @NORCOAIR 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All good operators,they all know how to spool their turbo-charger before applying too much throttle, good Vid.

  • @redheadedduckhunter
    @redheadedduckhunter 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @melbourneSTORM4eva The small blade is used to push scrapers while the big blade is for dirt. It is also spring loaded.

  • @jameslindley8318
    @jameslindley8318 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ya gonna be movin FORWARD with that behind Ya

  • @vantagetes
    @vantagetes  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Stokeypower Not all big dozers have them, as I found out its the late model 11R's that made them standard. Not all elevated sprocket dozers need them. It adds another wear point in the undercarriage and 1db to the sound of the machine.

  • @MXpilotch
    @MXpilotch 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    a very good video! thanks!

  • @blainekopp8988
    @blainekopp8988 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well Thank you all!!! and keep sending the good stuff.

  • @jacobkemp1183
    @jacobkemp1183 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mean loading, we load our 627K's down here in New Zealand with D7R XR dozers , slow but helps

    • @tallen4520
      @tallen4520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We always turn the cut uphill and get a run at it full speed. No push cat, and can gouge on a load in 3 seconds.

  • @Garwood900
    @Garwood900 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m curious what this project is. Looks like a landfill with the rolling hills in the background. Pans were used extensively @ the landfill I used to dump @ in the late 60’s / early 70’s.

  • @brandonhersey197
    @brandonhersey197 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    wut is a carrier roller and wy the small blade

  • @vantagetes
    @vantagetes  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @89me23 Yes the rear engine makes twin engine scrapers climb much better than the singles shown in this video.

  • @jesstrueblood2317
    @jesstrueblood2317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All the scraper videos I've watched nobody chainloads scrapers, from my experience the scrapers turn a lot easier than the dozer does, I operated an old D10 pushing 651's, sad scraper would wait for the cat to back up then pull in front of of the dozer, we would pick up the scraper on the fly ( third gear ) then the scraper would start their cut were the last one pulled out. Having that momentum of a 170,000 lbs dozer plus the scraper moving in third gear loaded that first half of the bowl pretty fast. The rule of thumb was 15 seconds from when the can hit the ground till you was loaded, with a good scraper operator alot of times you wouldn't even have to drop the into first gear with the cat, chain loading seemed to be more productive on the jobs I worked on, our cuts were pre ripped and sometimes pre watered also
    lso

  • @tallen4520
    @tallen4520 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know what a psh blade is, but what's tat big yeller thing behind it?

  • @shauny19840
    @shauny19840 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok so wats the push blade all about I mean wats the advantage of a carry blade other than visibility ?

  • @lowercherty
    @lowercherty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Overkill is underrated. It sure is productive. Hardly working too.

  • @alco424
    @alco424 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @peebsb from personal experience, tagging a buggy hard is rarely accidental!

  • @vantagetes
    @vantagetes  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @PeterbiltEXHD There is a link in the video description that will take you there.

  • @dhoffman4994
    @dhoffman4994 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow cool!

  • @vantagetes
    @vantagetes  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @melbourneSTORM4eva It's a push blade as redheadedduckhunter has informed you. It also helps in being able to move the dozer from site to site without having to pull it off.

  • @RocketAppliance1
    @RocketAppliance1 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why don't you have a carrier roller on the D11?

  • @clovakid
    @clovakid 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need a video camera like yours..

  • @Gavin84w
    @Gavin84w 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @MAC4EVER1980 yeah it does, i have a customer who just replaced his D11R u/c at 10000 hrs, lots of repairs up to that point, pin & bush turn and relug the plates etc I have worked at a hard rock gold mine where the grousers lasted 750 hours 110mm starting height down to the bolt heads.
    By the way burnout that is some nice footage and happy new year to you mate.

    • @williammain3247
      @williammain3247 ปีที่แล้ว

      At some point that would cease to be a gold mine and become a steel mine or whatever the groussers are made of mine.

  • @tzisme
    @tzisme 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the first things they taught us in the army(67/70) was never doze uphill.

    • @ellandreymanuel5660
      @ellandreymanuel5660 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      thomas ziegler thats a a dumb army then. You can always doze uphill, depends on what you are doing. So dont say never.

  • @richardwalters1803
    @richardwalters1803 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never realized how big a 651 is

  • @alexavr1000
    @alexavr1000 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Can that push blade on the D11R be used for dirt, if that need is posed?

    • @geraldlrstubbs
      @geraldlrstubbs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, but only really for tidying up. It won't carry.

  • @genehall8895
    @genehall8895 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An 11 should be in shot rock when it's new. The only time I would use one to push pans ,is when its nearly worn out.

    • @Gavin84w
      @Gavin84w 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What a stupid idea to use it to push pans when it is nearly worn out

  • @BurbSK-bi2wh
    @BurbSK-bi2wh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We had mechanic weld a homemade plate on the back of 651 , and it was pushed by a pair of 657's . Worked like a magic .

    • @edwardglamuzina3421
      @edwardglamuzina3421 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wonder why he had to weld a plate on the 651? They all have push blocks on them already.

  • @johnmurdoch4845
    @johnmurdoch4845 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jimmy hunt top man

  • @jimmyjohnson7769
    @jimmyjohnson7769 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    id be cool to see a tandem d11rs tagging 51s

    • @cbmech2563
      @cbmech2563 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      jimmy johnson a d11 has as much push as the old dd9s . If you used 2 d11s and hit anything solid the 651 wouldn't have a belly . Been there saw that train wreck

  • @89me23
    @89me23 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a scraper person, But if the rear engine was running while driving around would it help uphills and stuff or would you kneed to kick out the motor so it doesn't get damaged,..(Im a hoe op so don't know a lot about scrapers)

    • @puksrasohchurrun
      @puksrasohchurrun 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dustin Lee run both engines all the time. Let the rear engine off when cornering so as not to sledge . Also with aome scrapers, most noticibally a ts14g, you need to lay off the back motor on the haul road as it has more power than the front. (14g use the same motors front and rear) although front is tuned a little higher, most accessorys are driven from the front so they will wheelspin and rut the road

  • @Dinoxt12
    @Dinoxt12 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Smooth operation going on here....no wild cowboying operating ....

  • @blainekopp8988
    @blainekopp8988 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man not a hay ride at least we got limeade , not a beer ate the end of the shift, but the old timers looked for that not no more, shame, the stories shaird and learnded from that how i learned, not from a book!!!! But watching and asking the guys how???

  • @menick595
    @menick595 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    IS THAT A HEMI

  • @josh33025
    @josh33025 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's probably the size of a d6 blade

  • @curvedbridge
    @curvedbridge ปีที่แล้ว

    What are these blades called

    • @vantagetes
      @vantagetes  ปีที่แล้ว

      They are called cushion blades and have a set of springs in them to take the shock out of connecting with the back of the scraper.

  • @vantagetes
    @vantagetes  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @menick595 IT SURE IS, 2500.

  • @indiangiver1120
    @indiangiver1120 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    So,the scrapers aren't powerful enough to load the dirt in their own?

    • @jimmyjohnson7769
      @jimmyjohnson7769 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Indian Giver nope only 1 engine so they need a big push

  • @92MikeKY
    @92MikeKY 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nom nom nom

  • @1hdsquad
    @1hdsquad 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe this is a dumb question, but - why do they build scrapers that arent powerful enough to do what they are supposed to do? ;)

    • @cbmech2563
      @cbmech2563 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      1hdsquad
      They build them to load to a standard , if you want more you've got to add more . Even with a twin 657 unless you're set up with push me pull you , you usually use a push cat

  • @MrAwesomdude12
    @MrAwesomdude12 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really one of those dinky blades on a D11R

    • @JeremyDoesThings
      @JeremyDoesThings 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i was thinking the same thing

    • @ramonamunoz4
      @ramonamunoz4 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That dinky blade that you are referring to is called a petterson blade,made especially for pushing huge scapers, this dozer is called the push cat,his job is mainly to push scraperes,and that does not require a huge blade.

    • @JeremyDoesThings
      @JeremyDoesThings 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ohh i see, yea we have a push cat at our mine as well but the scrapers are gone so it just sits.

    • @sasookbangnamjeud3855
      @sasookbangnamjeud3855 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      jeremy collins ใ. เเเนใวฝว....... ,...........
      ,.?

    • @frenchy112
      @frenchy112 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mainly used for pushing scrapers.

  • @godackgudalach1
    @godackgudalach1 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hate this time of year. The last two hours of shift the sun is just horrible.

    • @puksrasohchurrun
      @puksrasohchurrun 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      steven schulz big yellow. Machinery ooeratora best friend and worst enemy since adam was a cowboy

  • @camrincharles7933
    @camrincharles7933 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would get my ass riped for twisting and turning that dozer like that.

  • @Vaneps0
    @Vaneps0 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't think they made single engine scrapers that big

    • @tylerchristensen1535
      @tylerchristensen1535 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Single engine gets just a little bigger than that.

    • @jimmyjohnson7769
      @jimmyjohnson7769 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah theres still a 660s above the 51s

    • @Vaneps0
      @Vaneps0 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well neat. All we have are twined 627s.. Little fellas

    • @jimmyjohnson7769
      @jimmyjohnson7769 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah 27s a really common.there 27s,37s,57s,and the very rare 666 for twin engines nd each of them has a single engine counterpart

    • @Vaneps0
      @Vaneps0 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We used to have a few 37 Ds before I started but they sold those to downsize a little. Required to much attention. We have a 21G with a mega water wagon too

  • @Dodgeram591
    @Dodgeram591 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    My buddy at singer hauls kidcos d11s

  • @DiecastEarthmoving
    @DiecastEarthmoving 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You never load a scraper going uphill.

  • @rebelyell08
    @rebelyell08 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    they use the dozers to push so they dig deeper and fill up quicker. When you push like this they are scraping a foot or more verses 3-5 inches.

  • @mhoff5777
    @mhoff5777 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always load downhill whenever possible..

    • @dhoffman4994
      @dhoffman4994 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      M Hoff Makes since to me.
      Gravity can be a tool too.

  • @billymp79
    @billymp79 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a push blade....

  • @daexpediter
    @daexpediter 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    to me the scraper load carry area (pan) should be of larger capacity just saying!!!

  • @logantennent2258
    @logantennent2258 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    cause its cheaper... the twin engines are able to load themselves in the right material, especially if you run push/pull. but they are more money. Having the cat with one big motor and lots of traction you can use cheaper single engine scrapers and more of them

  • @jeremylee99100
    @jeremylee99100 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    i wont that dozer

  • @blainekopp8988
    @blainekopp8988 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This stuff is true story, been their with my coworkers ????? in your pants at the end of day!!!!

  • @martyhyatt8556
    @martyhyatt8556 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can blue top with a631E

  • @satendraprasad7255
    @satendraprasad7255 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi

  • @satendraprasad7255
    @satendraprasad7255 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello

  • @davidwillard7334
    @davidwillard7334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    SO !! MUCH !! WASTED !!! FUEL !!! HERE !!!!

    • @dhewitt2514
      @dhewitt2514 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where exactly?

    • @davidwillard7334
      @davidwillard7334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      START !! USING !! HAND !! SHOVEL !!

    • @dhewitt2514
      @dhewitt2514 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidwillard7334 ah ok - thought you had a sensible point to make initial, obviously not 🙄

    • @davidwillard7334
      @davidwillard7334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dhewitt2514 IT'S !! VERY !!! SENSIBLE !! WASTED !! FUEL !!! IDIOT !!!

    • @dhewitt2514
      @dhewitt2514 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidwillard7334 haha - you are sooo stupid 😂

  • @davidwood1294
    @davidwood1294 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why on earth do the scrapers drag in and STOP?!? The push cat should be tagging them at an angle while they drag in slowly, not turning behind them and hitting them straight on. Here in Cali we get 80 loads per hour with D10’s!

  • @tdshaker
    @tdshaker 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool to look at, but seriously, this is a big expense. D11's are very cost prohibitive. To use them as pushers?

    • @jimmyjohnson7769
      @jimmyjohnson7769 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +tdshaker cheaper than using tandem d10s and loads quicker than a single d10. Job was bid with d11s in mind

  • @coparpanzeruser
    @coparpanzeruser 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nasty looking clay

  • @25mfd
    @25mfd 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes,we load DOWNHILL????????
    As if you would ever load UPHILL??????
    WHO would EVER suggest that????? :)

  • @labyonnette
    @labyonnette 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have thought that it would make more sense to always, where possible to load downhill with gravity on your side than trying to srape AN D get uphill at the same time
    comments please Ta

    • @puksrasohchurrun
      @puksrasohchurrun 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      labyonnette yes some operarors will take there lasr cuts uphill so as to let gravity help the "dregs" in to the bowel. Most of the time you dont have to if you work your apron right but yeah thats why you will see that sometimes. Also sometimes its more efficiant to run 2 scrapers in oppisite directions at the cut so the dozer dont have to back up fast and far but just has to turnaround to meet the next scraper. If there is only a slight grade then the savings in dozer running fuel and time and mechanical components make up for a little longer or more difficult load.

  • @andrewrees8749
    @andrewrees8749 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why load, with aD 11 when a D9 will do the same job

    • @vantagetes
      @vantagetes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because they are 651s not 621

    • @martyhyatt8556
      @martyhyatt8556 ปีที่แล้ว

      D 11 is taller,,,9 is wide

  • @zeeshan_engineering_services
    @zeeshan_engineering_services 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hmm KIDCO UK

  • @tabuilder
    @tabuilder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm...they load "downhill"? Yes, seems much more efficient than pushing an extra half a million pounds uphill.

  • @daledozer
    @daledozer 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice undercarriage

  • @dennisholst4322
    @dennisholst4322 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't t

  • @luziapereiradeoliveiraramo6594
    @luziapereiradeoliveiraramo6594 ปีที่แล้ว

    Esse nosso trabalho é Ardou , mas vale a pena, eu gosto muito, porque faz parte das nossas vidas precisamos disso!! 🧃👩‍💻🏗️ 💞