Oil change on Derbi Senda 50cc (2 stroke oil change)
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In todays video ill be swapping the oil on my Derbi Senda 50cc motorbike This tutorial also applies to Gilera and Aprilia 50cc's. I made a few mistakes but i eventually got there so its all good. This tutorial basically applies to most 2 strokes and could be helpful.
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The Oil I used : www.24mx.co.uk/motocross-accessories/oils--lubricants_c71/motocross-engine-oils_c118/castrol-power1-fully-synthetic-1l_pid-PM-0025672 MANUFACTURER SPECIFICATIONS MAY BE DIFFERENT ON YOUR BIKE SO DO SOME RESEARCH ON YOUR BIKE BEFORE ATTEMPTING THE CHANGE
The oil ur actually supposed to use is 10w-40
This is a bit misleading, but good effort!
To anyone who is not mechanically minded this is how you change the gearbox oil! on a 2T Derbi Senda/Aprilia SX50/Gilera SMT-RCR with a D50B0/D50B1/EBS/EBE, Euro2, 3 or 4 engine.
Although the manual states to use 10w40 4T motorcycle oil I would highly recommend using gearbox oil what is specifically designed just for a 2T gearbox, rather than 4T motorcycle oil what is designed to go through the whole engine.
I would recommend sae75-90 gear/gearbox oil; if both drain plugs- bottom of cases and clutch cover were removed for drainage, the gearbox should then take 600-700ML.
Kind Regards a fellow Mechanic who builds and tunes these engines
I don’t see how I mislead anyone I went of the manufacturers specifications. It’s completely up to you to decide what goes in your engine but many people recommend running 4T. I have heard many people say that gear box oil ruined their clutch.
not misleading, 2 stroke uses 5w40- 15w40-15w50 4 stroke oil in the gearbox
My Guy I didn’t see shit of what he did
Hope that you will do more mechanic videos on the derbi this one really helped me!😁
ForgeRouser okay thank you for the feedback I’m happy I helped you
Just snug tighten the bolts, tightens them to 110 foot pounds of torque
Lol
Haha are you crazy?
trust me
The moped has to stand right, when you do that not there is to much oil in the bike
Do not use 4t motoroil in 2t gearbox.
It has anti - wear additive for the cylinder that means your clutch will slips.
I used motul motoroil when I didn’t know that, and my clucth was awful.
I have been running for 2500 miles without a problem on 4T no clutch slip the manual recommended it.
Also I now run motul
So u should use 2 stroke oil in the gearbox? U should'nt. The gearboxes are the same in 4t and 2t, the 2 stroke oil is for mixing in the fuel to lubricate the engine.
@@TedCederq U should use gearbox oil specifically made for 2t bikes since they have a wet clutch.
4t bikes has wet clutches as well @nico eerola
No! The only Oil you should use in these 2t gearmopeds is 10w40 4t Oil. Anything else is very wrong. Look up your manual and you Will see it says 10w40 4t Oil. Every Forum you see on the internet also tells you to use that oil So please do not comment when you have no idea what you are talking about. I have owned around 15 bikes who all used this oil.
is that 2 strok oil i cant understand and if no what is it im looking into buying derbi senda sm50 2014 2 stroke!
4T four stroke it’s only for the gearbox of the bike for the fuel mix would would use 2 stroke oil in the oil tank under the seat
Keeping the bike level when draining and filling is pretty important to get the level right I guess...
n00b xD
perfect example to see, you don't have to be an expert to change the transmission oil on an AM6 bike. Btw I recommed the Motul Transoil Expert 10W-40
My dude I have a derbi senda xtreme the 2010 year and I am currently powering up with airsal 80 delorto 24 and voca racing exhaust (I used to have the 90cc brk kit but my cylinder stuck and I am doing completely rebuilt) I am doing that rebuild my self among with some friends that have experience but not with bike like tha with 4t and we really don’t know what oil to use in the gearbox is the oil you use ok to put it in mine (sorry for the bad use of the language but English is not my primary language)
Sorry for the late reply but my friend has a 2015 Senda Xtreme 50cc and his manual had different specifications for the gear box oil so i cant recommend but it might be ok. But a 2010 Derbi has a slightly different engine. But anyway good look with your build
I did an oil change but only did the side drain plug, I tipped the bike all the way till no oil came out and filled it up and it came out the minimum screw, should I have drained the bottom one as well or does it matter.
Yes you should have drained the bottom first
@@danieljparker_ do you think I got all the oil out or does the bottom plug drain a separate thing of oil
@@danieljparker_ does oil coming out of the minimum screw mean that the whole engine has oil in it?
I tough it was 10w/40?
My manual says 5w-40
10w/40 is acceptable as well.
Hi mate, I’m coming up 16 and was wondering if this is a good bike to get as I don’t won’t a scooter version. I was also looking at the aprilia sx50 and noticed these look the same, what would you recommend to get. Also wondering what the insurance is like :). Thanks In advance
The insurance for me was higher than my friends but that was down to me having a new bike. Aprilia sx50 has the same engine same frame basically the same just different graphics. But all in all they are the best bikes to get in my opinion
@@danieljparker_ ok cheers
@@danieljparker_ aprilia is AM6 engine. Derbi is d50b0 (ebs before 2006) :)
@@matemerkli9140 Aprilia sx
has had the D50B0 engine since about 2007
@@isacmybrother1957 The Derbi and Gilera and Aprilia come with the same engine the D50B0 is electric start the D50B1 is kick start.
i put a cdi 12000 rpm, yasuni r2 and 19 dellorto and lost all the low end power .....
its normal
My derbi manual is saying to fill with 10w40 so thats what i will use . Its thicker oil
Is the castrol 2t oil the same? I mean can i put it in too?
Umm, Bro is changing the gearbox oil. 2-stroke burns oil in tje combustion chamber🤣 this is not a 4-stroke
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Ohh god just buy the unrestricted cdi already theres no point having enox without it.
I have tried but it’s not all about the CDI I need to change the spark plug swap the gear ratio and tune the carb
not 4 t,,,,,,this it 2t ???????????????????????????????????????????????????
if i change the exhaust but dont change anything els does the bike go faster? i only want to change the sound
Just drive without the exhaust and you'll be fine
Yes maybe like 2 mph difference that’s all
Thanks for the info and a laugh. :)
;) glad you enjoyed it
where do i get one of these brand new from the UK?
I don’t think you can anymore sadly. It’s rated Euro 4 emissions. A 2021 bike must be emission Euro 5. The big factor is there 2 strokes. It hard to keep the emissions low. So I’m pretty sure there discontinued. :(
@@danieljparker_ ah all good, i just found a 2021 rieju mrt50 pro and am picking it up this weekend!
Glad to hear it have fun !
I recently bought a bike like this. How do I tune it? It’s locked at 55 km/h
its locked with a katalysator in the beginning of the exhaust. In germany its called Krümmerdrossel. You have to cut it out with the right tool. (Should look like this: www.sfera-haiza.de/sfera/auspuffdrosselung.jpg) I recommend buying an new axhaust manifold, because when u cut the katalysator out you can seriousely damage your bike. You can also order an whole new exhaust but this is expensive and the police would bust you pretty fast. (Exhaust-manifold: www.gearparts24.de/tuningkruemmer-motoflow:a11483.html) ik its a german shop but they ship worldwide. The last way your bike is locked is with a ecu. (Open Ecu: www.gearparts24.de/50-70cc-sport-steuergeraet-ecu-radical-racing:a11337.html) (How to install the Ecu: th-cam.com/video/CYsWEUJ0NqY/w-d-xo.html)
ask me if u have any questions
Buy this and fit it www.pedparts.co.uk/product/6367/derestriction-kit-derbi-senda-2018-on-euro4
Buy a new exhaust , larger front sprocket , new main jet idle jet and needle jet , then get a 72 cc head :)
@@snowflakezz4718 no theres a restriction in the exhaust and the cdi is restricted also.
this transmission oil right ?
What is the code to reset the service light?
Sorry I don’t know
211
@@steijnhopman3913 where did you find the code ?
@@steijnhopman3913 Hij laat mij die code wel invoeren maar hij doet vervolgens niets
@@danieljparker_ th-cam.com/video/EKvTMQZxMcs/w-d-xo.html
Can you please tell me how much oil you put because I don't have overflow in my Aprilia?
Unscrew the bolt on the clutchcover fill a bit up (i think it holds up to 600 ~700ml) and if it drips out its good
What have u adjusted in ur carburator for ur enox exhaust.
Sorry i cant help you i did not fit the exhaust
@@danieljparker_ ahh but do u have any idea what is ur primary nozzle and whats the position of the needle in the carb.
sorry i don't
What is the code to reset the service indicator light ?
Sorry I don’t know
211
211 is the code
Soo if I get it right the small bolt on clutch cover is for oil level if it drips out of there its ok if not not ok?
Yes that’s correct
Can I put 2 stroke motoroil innit? Im confused now which
You can do what you like. I personally changed it with 4T oil. 2T oil in automatic oil filler under seat and 4T in the gearbox
@@danieljparker_ So basically I can put 10W40 with API SL into it and it would work or what? I have the Derbi Senda SM DRD Pro (2007)
@@lvids6065 probably? read owners manual
So do you put in 2 stroke oil
Is the bike original? Like 50cc ?
You should be able to answer that yourself. What does it Sound like? :)
Yes
how many dl of oil?
I tought you had to add it to the fuel?!
I’m changing the gearbox oil I think you mean the oil which goes into the fuel
@@danieljparker_ oh on the 4strokes on the other hand you add it in a conteiner
Hi
Hi
Is this the oil for the gearbox or for the engine? Bcause i thought the 2stroke engine oil just had to be refilled/mixed into the fuel tank, not changed.
For the gearbox and the engine there’s only one sump.
@@danieljparker_ but doesnt the 2stroke oil burn with the fuel inside the engine? I found online that there are seperate oils fof the gear and the engine
@@julianbe5657 yeah sorry I wasn’t very clear there yes completely different oils for the piston (engine)and gearbox.
@@danieljparker_ Thanks for clarifying :) im just wondering which one you changed in the video, was it the gear oil or engine oil? I didnt really think the 2t engine oil needed to be changed (just refilled) but im not sure
What are the specifications because i have an older bike with the same engine
My friend has got a 2015 and he has got different specifications so I don’t want to give you false information
Bro can you tell me how much is oil minimum in ml?
750
2 stroke 4 stroke nothing really changes tbh
Don't worry about pouring some fresh oil through the engine. It cleans the engine by removing old oil and metal shavings.
Tip: use a Dirt bike stand to level up the moped when filling oil. More accurate. Peace out.
Mate u got snapchat?
yes D.jparker
do you need to unscrew the bolt behind the break pedal?
Yes I think I know what you mean. if it is the oil drain bolt it’s best to do so yes
how is the derbi i am thinking about buying an aprilia sx 50
Yeah the Derbi is great and good quality i would recommend getting one Aprilia sounds like a good option
@@danieljparker_ aprilia is better there are more details and stuff but the motor is exactly the same
@@MatijnASMR this.limited.edition derbi=sx factory aprilia
So slow
Amaan ok cool
Daniel Parker shitty tecnigas get a Voca or yasuni and de restricted cdi and you’ll be flying
@@amaan7953 yes i know made that mistake i'm new to this so i just when with what i found because i didn't do research first sorry i hurt your feelings. I'm getting the restricting thing sorted
@@amaan7953 the technigas isnt really the issue, I think: De-restrict, upjet, and change gearing. Those things alone should let you hit 80+ kmh/h with that technigas. But as stated above the real power comes from voca scr corse, and other ones
@@amaan7953 A derestricted CDI with stock cylinder, piston and crankshaft will make the piston heat expand and cut into the cylinder and that will probably also brake the connecting rod in half. Instead just remove the electrical rev limiter and remove the oil pump and start mixing oil with the fuel manually or just get a 70/80cc forged cylinder kit and a strengthened crankshaft.
How are you alwais out of breath
Because i talk way too much and don’t give myself time to breathe 🙃
I have derbi senda r (year 97)
Nice 👍