Jimmy Miotke Wow this thread is really harsh. I noticed that too but as other comment points out, there are a lot of light on the dash of the Murcielago, maybe it is overheating, also in the footage he seems to be pushing full throttle. Just my opinion guys, I don’t want to fight with anybody please.
narrator saids the murcielago was overheating at the very last. by the way me and some other people feel that BM battles of this era is a bit biased to some extent.
@@albertkelly7129 he said "I think" so everyone has their own opinion you dickhead. For you maybe it's miura, for him its the another lambo. Just respect others opinions its not like your opinion is the only one that the best in the world. Smh
They purposely do that. How is it possible a 560hp car which weighs like 3800 lbs can accelerate as faster than a 640hp car which weighs 3600 lbs. Doesnt make sense. Clearly staged.
@@sunilayya8948 The Lambo is also AWD. You also have to wonder about the differences in tires on these comparisons - on a track, street tires can go 'off' after a few laps.
Has anyone noticed that there were only two instances where the Murcielago was shown revving past 7k? And even exiting the final corner as the GT-R came to "overtake" it, Hattori still deliberately upshifted at 7k. Also the Murcielago's brakes fading down the back straight in the second lap but working just fine on the next and final lap which is barely believable. Also, ehy aren't the air cooling ducts open? The Exige losing out to corner speed and braking ability is a mystery to me, as physics would suggest otherwise. Lastly, DK Tsuchiya seemed to be deliberately missing shifts and hitting the limiter on his Gallardo. Weird for a world-class driver considering all his other videos barely show him on a misshift. Hmmmm🤔🤔🤔
That's a neat shift the guy obviously and deliberately did 1.5K RPM from redline there at the end 14:24. Not to mention the whole easing off the throttle thing. I know they have a story to sell but this is insulting to put it gracefully, next time come up with a better excuse, the good ole "shifuto-missu" for example.
I love Best Motoring, but this episode is so biased. The GTR was so light that they forgot to put fuel. The driver of the Murcielago was short shifting on the third lap and did some "mistakes" for the GTR catch up. In the final lap they faked that check engine.
Best Motoring, the only publication that tests cars with serious racing drivers on a track. Once you get used to their contents, most other reviews, impressions, tests, etc from the US or UK read like BS. That only seems logical because the usual auto journalist simply doesn't have the ability to explore the limit of these performance machines. Long live Best Motoring, I wish you all the best.
It's annoying to see the Murcielago being shifted way before redline constantly. It's a N/A engine, I'm sure it makes plenty power over 7000 RPM as well.
hahahaha tires gone on 4th lap on murci but from beginning no redline gearing on lp640 it was in lead and chilling waiting for gt-r to win . how much did nissan pay you to do this?
Compared to the Lamborghini Gallardo, the Lamborghini Murcilago's single clutch E-gear is smoother, but not as smooth as say... a Mercedes SL 55 AMG's gearbox or even the Nissan GT-R. Both Lamborghinis in the race had laggy gear shifts. And the exhaust is not strong enough on that Murcilago, very wierd that is. Weak catalytic converter maybe. The Porsche 911 Turbo is heavy turning into corners, it's suspension is a bit soft compared to the GT-R (the 911 Turbo, unlike the GT-R, dives into corners), one reason it couldn't keep up in the later laps of the race. The Lotus, well... it maybe good on Tsukuba Circuit, but here at Twin Motegi it ain't fast enough. Still a great little handling machine. The Nissan GT-R is definitely the king of Supercars (and maybe even Hypercars if tuned to somewhere at 2500 - 3016 hp) on any racetrack, even in the hands of a person with little racing experience. Just perfect.
Aaryesh G. And there fox body's running 5s on street tire (drag radial)the gtr can't compete with America today that's why it don't race in imsa it would lose bad
Michael Gomez It's just that the gearbox in the GT-R has shorter ratios than any other Supercar. If it had longer ratios (like those sub 3000 hp Drag GT-R have...) it will have much higher top speed, like 350 km/h which is fast enough for factory spec car. At the moment stock GT-Rs can reach 315 km/h, that's it. It really needs longer ratios in 4th, 5th and 6th gears, then it will be considered a bargain hypercar.
Aaryesh G. No it's the power and grip level of the tire. the v8 in that ford makes 3-4000hp and a properly set up rwd will grip Better do to all the weight going to the back the front are getting lifted making awd useless, and on top of that you have to deal with krab walking.gearing is long in every car nowadays the viper reaches 60 in first that's a bs excuse on why it's slower.the real reason is low end torque there not enough to compete anymore
Aaryesh G. It would be slower It doesn't have the low end torque at all, while the ford gt,zo6 is made for that that's why they win real races in imsa and the gtr doesn't compete against other manufacturers like ford,and Porsche. No low end torque bottom line
Interesting to think about the differences in OEM spec tires on each car. Also too bad they weren't able to get a 997.2 GT3 RS, or even a 997.1 version. My experience on track days tells me that the GTR weight penalty would be quite telling. But videos such as this one no doubt solidified the GTR's reputation for hanging with the best performance cars of the day!
はっちゃんの加速で離された時によくやる身体前後に揺するの可愛くてすこ。
The cooling ducts on both sides of the murcilago were never open. Kinda seems like something was wrong with the car.
The 900kg Exige being passed under braking by the almost twice as heavy GT-R tells me all I need to know about the race
AbrassiveMandrake glad I’m not the only one who noticed that
@DC Williams dude, the GTR is a boat, a fast boat, but a boat still, no way it could out brake the light Lotus, physics agree with me
Plus at the very end the gtr magically accelerates quicker than the lambo, even though the Lamborghini was clearly quicker the rest of the race.
Jimmy Miotke Wow this thread is really harsh. I noticed that too but as other comment points out, there are a lot of light on the dash of the Murcielago, maybe it is overheating, also in the footage he seems to be pushing full throttle. Just my opinion guys, I don’t want to fight with anybody please.
narrator saids the murcielago was overheating at the very last. by the way me and some other people feel that BM battles of this era is
a bit biased to some extent.
I think murcielago was the most beautiful lambo ever made
have you heard of miura??
noob
I think the Countach.
Me too
@@albertkelly7129 it’s just his preference you moron
@@albertkelly7129 he said "I think" so everyone has their own opinion you dickhead. For you maybe it's miura, for him its the another lambo. Just respect others opinions its not like your opinion is the only one that the best in the world. Smh
LP640 driver is shifting at 7,000 rpms when it redline at 8,500. I wonder why?
That would be the GT-R won
Braking in the first corner of the last lap is also amazing
The Lambo tires were done at the last lap.
He got a bunch of warning lights on the dash. Engine overheated.
@@GrigoryStartEngine GTR faster car. In Best motoring GTR win F1.
Такие вот неподкупные японцы. Я еще с зарубы 911 начал подозревать неладное.
Every time gtr wins at the end of the race ..... only in Japan the stock gtr wins the race vs porsche and lambo
In 2008 yeah it was fast on this track and Nissan did great. But now the gtr won't come close
They purposely do that. How is it possible a 560hp car which weighs like 3800 lbs can accelerate as faster than a 640hp car which weighs 3600 lbs. Doesnt make sense. Clearly staged.
@@MassiveBig cry babies
@@MassiveBig its the extra traction of the 4 wheel drive. Observe the nuburgring lap tines of this era and see where the gtr stood back then.
@@sunilayya8948 The Lambo is also AWD. You also have to wonder about the differences in tires on these comparisons - on a track, street tires can go 'off' after a few laps.
Am I the only American man who loves watching this channel even though I don’t really understand subscribed lmao
I'm the Only malaysian guy who can understand japanese a little bit.
Yes you are the only American man that watches Japanese television on the internet
わかりはしん?
im the only pakistani muslim
We see it scandinavia as well
ランボは魅力的やなやっぱり
Oh, a “last corner pass” at the last second ... cool story 😅😅 still love best motoring forever.
4:05 7:20 いくら勝負にならないとは言え、それはないでしょうwww
The 911 to race the group should have been the Turbo S with PDK, not a manual Turbo! All of the other cars are dual clutch or sequential automatics.
ちゃんとNに入れてで安全なとこまで退避するのはさすが
普通に1周追加されて井出さんがかわいそう、土屋さんがムルシエラゴに乗ってたら絶対1周追加してなかったやろ
TopED SAII Dragon まあそうだけど、日本だし日本車に勝たせたいからねぇ…
Has anyone noticed that there were only two instances where the Murcielago was shown revving past 7k? And even exiting the final corner as the GT-R came to "overtake" it, Hattori still deliberately upshifted at 7k.
Also the Murcielago's brakes fading down the back straight in the second lap but working just fine on the next and final lap which is barely believable. Also, ehy aren't the air cooling ducts open?
The Exige losing out to corner speed and braking ability is a mystery to me, as physics would suggest otherwise.
Lastly, DK Tsuchiya seemed to be deliberately missing shifts and hitting the limiter on his Gallardo. Weird for a world-class driver considering all his other videos barely show him on a misshift.
Hmmmm🤔🤔🤔
No idea of what they say but this is the best channel ever
エキシージのエンジン音すごいな笑
スーチャーですからね〜
Wow manual Porsche 997 Turbo..now that's cool!!
きんちゃんの笑い方が極悪人のそれで笑える
ガス欠はワロタ
ムルシエラゴかっこいい！！
すごい好みの車だ
That's a neat shift the guy obviously and deliberately did 1.5K RPM from redline there at the end 14:24. Not to mention the whole easing off the throttle thing. I know they have a story to sell but this is insulting to put it gracefully, next time come up with a better excuse, the good ole "shifuto-missu" for example.
R35はやっぱり2017年版が好きだなぁ
Guys, I really like your channel, but this vid... that GTR and the Lambo at the end...serious?!
skr54 That Lambo don't have enough gasoline
it's not the first time they let Japanese cars win...
思い出の砂場 that’s bullshit. Not because of lack of gasoline. It’s because of overheating of engine damn ass
きんちゃんwwwショートカットwwwwww
外車は会社自体がチューンドエンジンを載せてるイメージ。日本車は弄れる伸び幅を用意したエンジンを載せているイメージ。
あんなぴったりなタイミングでガス欠？
Cauchy Shima これやらせらしいですよ
だから中谷さん辞めたらしいです
でもこん中で何が欲しいかっつったらエキシージ
Love the way they always try to make the GTR win...
just as Top Gear , right? With GT-R beaten LP640 and got close to Atom and Enzo...
きんちゃんくそおもれえw
The gtr hasn't passed the lambo oh let's give it another lap lmao. biased motoring at its best and I saw the short shift at the end to let it pass
Overheating brah the lamborghini, the driver mean to win it but yeah the car slow down for a reason.
Brian Jong I can see the water temp it's fine... maybe oil temp & break fade but no reason to shift 1000rpm early.
I love Best Motoring, but this episode is so biased. The GTR was so light that they forgot to put fuel. The driver of the Murcielago was short shifting on the third lap and did some "mistakes" for the GTR catch up. In the final lap they faked that check engine.
Also is a 911 always faster on a track than a gtr
@@marcelk3847 no , not at all
Wie ich das liebe wen sie die Kübel unter realen Bedingungen quälen.
My Favorite Lambo:Murcielago
My Favorite Nissan:Gtr R35
Nice one~~ mine is Murcielago SV
GTR出てからもう、10年か。褪せないね。
ガソリンのメーターエンプティーさしてるやんw
編集部気づけよwww
Best Motoring, the only publication that tests cars with serious racing drivers on a track. Once you get used to their contents, most other reviews, impressions, tests, etc from the US or UK read like BS. That only seems logical because the usual auto journalist simply doesn't have the ability to explore the limit of these performance machines. Long live Best Motoring, I wish you all the best.
It's annoying to see the Murcielago being shifted way before redline constantly. It's a N/A engine, I'm sure it makes plenty power over 7000 RPM as well.
エキシージはコースチョイスが間違ってるね！あとは比較的いい勝負でしたね！
The GTR is a beast!
GTRは毎年進化してるなぁ〜
楽しいけどインチキでGT-R勝ちってのがつまんないな
かかってるお金がダンチなんだし負けて当たり前やん
はっなんで
The merci driver didn’t put a foot wrong until the last corner. Hmmm
what happened to the SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STI?
世界的見ても3000万クラスのお値段も性能もスーパーカー軍団を庶民でもちょっと我慢すれば買えるＲ３５が戦えてる時点で十分おかしいけどな
山田史郎 お金の掛けてるところも違ってきますからね、、、
山田史郎 自分はGT-Rを所有したことがないので分からないんですけどGT-RですらR35になってから本体価格や維持費を含めて庶民が買えなくなってしまったと嘆く人もいるみたいですね。R34だとニュルを除いて600万円以下で買えたっけな？←詳しくないので間違ってたらすみません。まあ新車価格の話しなんですけどね。そのR34ももはや中古であるにもかかわらずプレミアがついているみたいですね。
SEIRA-X す
山田史郎 いや、おかしくはない！むしろ凄いことだが！？
今の日本人、収入源クッソ少ない割に天引きなりなんなり多いから、ちょっとどころの我慢では買える気配しない。
結婚しないとか、収入いい仕事つくとか妥協しない限りキツイと思う。買うことは誰でも簡単でも、維持することは買うことよりも難しい。
Why was the lotus just playing around?
I'm a gtr fan but that lambo let him pass that last corner don't you think? 😊✌
the lambo had to slow down because that yellow car was in front of him
Indeed. The GT-R is amzing but.. this was rigged.
Race of the century
ランボルギーニ、GT-Rのアートマ運転楽そうだねマニュアルよりも。
狼精優子
アートマって何？
Pretty much missing the Supercar era in Best Motoring
hahahaha tires gone on 4th lap on murci but from beginning no redline gearing on lp640 it was in lead and chilling waiting for gt-r to win . how much did nissan pay you to do this?
In my opinion lambo is the best.
And we don’t give a damn about your shitty useless opinion
I kind of expected the japanese car to win. Go figured.
Bro in the gallardo is having the most fun ha
Do they have 1080p in japan already? ;)
I love it always remind me GT Sport
なにコレ！
どうしちゃったのベストモータリング！？
ガス欠って車痛むから、車好きならやっちゃいけないし、ムルシはガス欠でスローダウンしてもバトルやり直さないのか…
これはフィクション！？
Carwow, take note!
スーパーレジェーラ好きだわ
近年の日本車はノーマルでは比較的遅いかもしれないけど値段を考えるとコスパがよく速いと感じるな
エキシージってスーパーチャージャーだっけ？
最初のガス欠がgtrじゃなかったら続行してただろ。おまけにgtrが負けそうになったらガス欠寸前なのにラップ追加。えこひいきが過ぎる。
こたつの上の夏みかん 企画考えろよ笑
Most of the times this races are staged, to put in a good light the japanese cars!
Helal olsun be gtr hem arabaya hem pilota
The 911 turbo power is on straight lines not on the circuit in this case i prefer to get a gt3rs
やっぱりGTRは、速いなぁー😆
このGT-RがNISMOだったら、普通に勝ってたかもね。
10年前古いいー
14:26 red light goes on in the Murcielago tachometer gauge?
35ってアサーティーついてるんですか？
アサーティとは？
ATTESAでは？
GT-R is really bad ass fast, awesome V6 engine versus V8.
It is a hilarious video. Not even the newest gtr is faster than a 640 HP lambo.
I love that show, but i think GTR not that fast in reality. BTW i am enormous fan of GTRs, RX-8s, 350Zs, 200SXs, NSXs...
The godzilla wins again😆😁
Q absurdo se ve que el lp640 no apuraba las marchas y le estaba esperando. Los otros iban lento aposta solo para que gane el nissan
スルスルっとフライングってw
どっちみちすぐ抜かれちゃねぇw
Класс👍💪
Compared to the Lamborghini Gallardo, the Lamborghini Murcilago's single clutch E-gear is smoother, but not as smooth as say... a Mercedes SL 55 AMG's gearbox or even the Nissan GT-R. Both Lamborghinis in the race had laggy gear shifts. And the exhaust is not strong enough on that Murcilago, very wierd that is. Weak catalytic converter maybe. The Porsche 911 Turbo is heavy turning into corners, it's suspension is a bit soft compared to the GT-R (the 911 Turbo, unlike the GT-R, dives into corners), one reason it couldn't keep up in the later laps of the race. The Lotus, well... it maybe good on Tsukuba Circuit, but here at Twin Motegi it ain't fast enough. Still a great little handling machine.
The Nissan GT-R is definitely the king of Supercars (and maybe even Hypercars if tuned to somewhere at 2500 - 3016 hp) on any racetrack, even in the hands of a person with little racing experience. Just perfect.
Aaryesh G. No gets its ass handed by the viper acr hell even the Gt350r is faster around many tracks like laguna seca & with a 6 speed
Aaryesh G. And there fox body's running 5s on street tire (drag radial)the gtr can't compete with America today that's why it don't race in imsa it would lose bad
Michael Gomez It's just that the gearbox in the GT-R has shorter ratios than any other Supercar. If it had longer ratios (like those sub 3000 hp Drag GT-R have...) it will have much higher top speed, like 350 km/h which is fast enough for factory spec car. At the moment stock GT-Rs can reach 315 km/h, that's it. It really needs longer ratios in 4th, 5th and 6th gears, then it will be considered a bargain hypercar.
Aaryesh G. No it's the power and grip level of the tire. the v8 in that ford makes 3-4000hp and a properly set up rwd will grip Better do to all the weight going to the back the front are getting lifted making awd useless, and on top of that you have to deal with krab walking.gearing is long in every car nowadays the viper reaches 60 in first that's a bs excuse on why it's slower.the real reason is low end torque there not enough to compete anymore
Aaryesh G. It would be slower It doesn't have the low end torque at all, while the ford gt,zo6 is made for that that's why they win real races in imsa and the gtr doesn't compete against other manufacturers like ford,and Porsche. No low end torque bottom line
部品一つ一つの単価からまるで違うのに、車両価格を無視して勝った負けたとか下らなさ過ぎる…リベンジもクソもないでしょ。
例えるなら、3万円のNintendo Switchと5万5千円のPS5を比べるようなもの。
むしろR35GT-Rのコスパが如何に素晴らしいかが証明されてる。
the lambo almost imploded at the end, its instrument panel was lighted like a Christmas tree lol
Interesting to think about the differences in OEM spec tires on each car. Also too bad they weren't able to get a 997.2 GT3 RS, or even a 997.1 version. My experience on track days tells me that the GTR weight penalty would be quite telling.
But videos such as this one no doubt solidified the GTR's reputation for hanging with the best performance cars of the day!
まあ、値段と信頼性を考えたら、gtrが圧倒的だけど、ｽﾃｰﾀｽｼﾝﾎﾞﾙで一般人が買うからさ、同じｶﾃｺﾞﾘｰに入らないんだよね。
何故かこのDVD持ってるw
GTRは確かに速いし、コスパもすごい。でも乗りたいとは思わないし公道じゃ扱いきれない。
外車乗りたい
すずき フェラーリ新型812スーパーファスト乗りたい
すずき 扱いきれないのは外車も同じだけどw
たい焼き 外車の方が公道じゃ扱いにくいよね。まず高いし、事故ったらお金かかるしw
GTRは速さ以外に魅力が薄いのが寂しい
どうせ公道じゃ速さは活かせないんならサウンドや内外装で魅了して欲しいよね
Lambo nearly didn't make it, towards end it was overheating and lighting up! lol
The first time in this channel where a gtr wins. In many other races gtrs lost to more mundane cars like the integra type r. I wonder how?
This is a really great show!
always picking the porsche with less torque power ,and is to rare that the gtr wins 2 lambos and a turbo.
燃費1.75キロｗ
Last lap the lambo like making lose for the GTR. Cause this is Japanese program so they must let GTR win
うーんなんかGTR勝つように製作されてるような気がした…
やらせ
7:53 me in GT
ガヤルドのデザインすき カッコいい
初期のGT-Rはまさしくバカっ速でしたね。
今のGT-R(ニスモ以外)ではこのタイムは出ないので要注意。
See Fss 今でももっと出せるでしょw
馬力も剛性も足も進化してんだし
MY17の実力はホットバージョンにて。
今のGT-Rは快適性重視なので、サーキットでは遅いです。
だいたい日産広報車をサーキットで全開で走らせるのが禁止されていることからも、だいたい実力は想像つくでしょう。
See Fss プレミアムやピュアは遅いけどブラックエディションやトラックエディションは全然速い
ホットバージョンが全てではないでしょ
小さなサーキットでは分からないことがいくらでもある
プレミアムもピュアもブラックも足は同じなのでは？
ニスモの血が入ったトラックエディションは別の話。
See Fss ピュアはステンレスマフラー、ブラックはチタンマフラー、オプションでドライカーボンスポイラーも付けれてトランクリッドもドライカーボンに出来る
そうなれば10キロ近く軽量化できる
そしたらコーナーでのスピードもあがるしリニアに動く
足は一緒だがカーボンやチタン素材バケットシートが変わることにより重量が変わるから全然変わってくる
Thats why this is too much better than top Gear and grand tour. The because it's like a video game Racing!!!
Lamborghini Wins!!!! Lambo give the victory for GT-R!!
遅くても古くても32か34のほうが持ってて嬉しい車
7:18
こら、きんちゃん!!www
Hello... Indonesia...
lambo let him pass because of course the japanese must win...
*This reinstates my love for the Nissan GTR, ever since I was a child!*
Edit: Also, I'm the 320th comment.
突然のずるシージーは草
Import always wins