Gets me everytime as well and yet there still people out there that don't understand what joining the service does to you the things they go through the things they see stays with them for the rest of there life some people just don't understand that
Danny’s Father acts cruel sometimes towards his son.. but deep down ,I think he’s still traumatized by what he has seen in WW1 , in a way- I think he’s warning the boys about the Horrors of War ( war is NOT a game)
@@justinhenderson5813 It was difficult for many of these young people to understand what the WW1 veterans gone through because, sadly, America itself was so isolated from the war front. It's only when these young men really got there that they understood. Many sought the WW1 veterans out afterward to ask how to live with it. It was their support system.
As I am not a believer in God, however I still get a chill when he says I fought the Germans in France, and I fought them in the trenches. As a military collector and somewhat historian of both first and second world wars , I knew his memories would hit him like a sledgehammer with that boys words.
@@travisdozier1357it’s a powerful scene. It always stayed with me throughout the years. He delivers those lines with so much conviction. Especially when we do the research on how bad it really was. And the cherry on top is you have hanz score hit right there. I always say it’s his most underrated score
My late grandfather fought them in WWII under Patton and his maternal side of the family was from a small Rhine River community near Heidelberg. His mother's family immigrated pre-WWI in the late 1800s when she was a child, but many relatives were still over there. My grandfather never said a thing about the war except when really probed like the time his division had to do the duty of uncovering a mass grave. He was proud though of sniping an SS officer in the head and taking his ivory handled Luger as a trophy. I remember him showing it to me as a kid and promising one day it would be mine, but it was later stolen in a burglary so I never got it. Point being, he had a job to do and didn't even think about the fact he may be shooting at distant relatives.
William gives here in his short screen time an absolutely perfect scene. I saw this about 200+ times, and i still get tears in my eyse. William, if you read this, you are AMAZING !
For the whole minute William Fichtner was in this movie he really captured the pain and emotion of a ww1 vet. Speaks volumes of his acting ability. I cannot begin to fathom the horror the vets felt knowing that just 21 year after WW1 ended their children and grand children would fight in another World War. If onlythey knew what a threat the NASDAP would be in 1923.
The film reminds me of Grandpa Wayne. He was a Marine and immediately went into war in February 1942 at Guadalcanal. Wayne couldn't believe the trauma he experienced during World War 2.
WWI was the most brutal and most vicious war in History for first time chemical warfare was used and millions died from it my Great Uncle fought in WWI on the German side he told me stories about the horrors he witnessed.
Man definitely saw some things that no one could ever imagine. The U.S. joined the war late and had to face battle hardened German soldiers. They had to quickly adapt to the horrific nature of trench warfare. Even tho they came in at the end they came home ghosts of who they were after experiencing hell on earth.
The sad part is the Great War veterans came home unappreciated and then were homeless due to the Great Depression soon after. These men never got the help they needed and many committed suicide .
In 1918, Germans were only 50 km from Paris. They were certainly not a defeated army. In fact, they weren’t losing at all in the west. The place just imploded back home. Had Germany lost militarily and felt that then Hitler’s narrative about Jewish bankers and so forth would’ve never taken hold. But they did not lose militarily in the west anyway. They just threw in the towel
Even though this is acting, I could still feel the emotion pouring out of him, this scene really makes me ponder on the horrors of war and how real they are.😢
shell shocked is what we called it before PTSD was even a thing I don't think you should watch shell shocked WW1 soilders vids it's scary sad and that's why we should never repeat history
And Rafe hits Danny's Father in head for Danny's Father not Screaming with Danny and Rafe Insults Danny's Father and calls him (Dirty German) and Danny's Father says he fought the germans in france and goes home and Danny thanking to rafe for saves his life and He Goes After his Dad and Both are Going Home.
I haven’t seen this movie in full in probably ten years or longer. Last time I watched it was on VHS, just to give a clue to the timeline. Most of it has been pretty forgettable over time. I remember a few scenes, but most of it has faded from my memory. This scene was so powerful and so profound it has never left me, to the point twenty years after it was released I’m looking it up on TH-cam just to see it again. That speaks volumes to the dialogue, the acting, and the directing. One of the most memorable moments in film of the 21st century.
I will never know how some actors play the role so we'll put emotions in to it that seem so real and relatable. Even though a washed up drunk vet. That line always gets to me. Where he wishes no had to see what he saw. It's relatable to someone going through depression, darkness, some real tough times. Times you wouldn't wish on anyone.
This scene is so heartbreaking. My neighbor was a Green Beret in Vietnam and I would never ask him what he saw as a sign of respect for what he did to ensure this country was safe, but with hearing the ptsd attacks next door every once in a while, I could only imagine what he saw. Also, just finished learning about WW1 in class and I understand fully what happened and it opens my eyes more to what he Fichtner possibly saw.
Watched the movie but out of all the scenes, this one stuck with me the most and i dont know how to explain why, I only know it broke my heart more than the actual war scenes
My old 4H leader flew helicopters in Vietnam, I only asked him about it once and when he talked about it I never saw heartbreak in man’s eyes as deep as that.
When I saw this movie for the first time 17 years ago, I didn’t understand what he said by, “And I prey to god no one ever has to see the things that I saw.” I’m now starting to really understand when he said that. Trench warfare was a horrific sight for man to see, yet, both sides were still thinking while fighting, “It’s you or me. What is it going to be?”
@MrHoppers002 every war in fact was worse than the one before when it comes down how tough it was for soldiers trench warfare was horrific but a winter in stalingrad was on another level Then came vietnam where grunts saw more battle then ever before the morale was at rock bottom imagine being drafted after years of active war you knew what awaited but you couldnt imagine how bad it would be then come home to be spat on fast forward to recent wars how much they strain soldiers with inhuman heavy loadout gear the desert heat the armament of the enemy getting better and better which is a big factor etc
“And I pray to god they nobody ever has to see the things I saw” that’s one of the hardest hitting lines out there and I think a lot of people don’t understand how deep that truly is.
So sad how many men were completely wrecked by the Great War. They were lucky to come home, but most were changed by that experience. We could never understand.
Sometimes I think I am a little tough on my son. Even so, he seem to cling to me when others go against how I discipline him, knowing what I went through in Iraq and Afghanistan.
WW1 was absolutely horrific, American soldiers had to adapt right away to trench warfare against experienced German troops, all the artillery attacks, the hand to hand combat, the running through no mans land and surviving by a hair
One of those amazing scenes-not defending child abuse or anything but you could see he’s a good man who loves his son he just has serious ptsd from experiencing shit most people couldn’t even imagine which I don’t care how good you think you are can make you have serious lapses in judgement in an instant
Danny's dad is having a PTSD episode, and it is so sad to see when he snaps out of it and looks at Danny and realizes what he was doing to him. My neighbor was a Green Beret in the Vietnam war and I saw his PTSD attacks and they were scary. 😨
I always tell people whenever discussing the First World War that of all the conflicts in history that one would not want to be in, this was the mother of all conflicts. Wholesale slaughter, disease, stagnation, trenches, shelling, shellshock, you name it.
I've seen what war does. My 2 Bros served in Iraq and they are scarred.PTSD. both USMC. one was first to invade in 03 the other was in fulljah 05.. But man WW1 and WW2 what those guys saw 1000Xs worst. Daily. my grandpa was in Korea. his wife My grandma told me she had a uncle who served in ww1 she said "when my parents had parties or any family gatherings. If WW1 or 2 or any war was brought up in conversation he would get up and leave the room". I can't imagine what he saw
This scene show what all us did as kids. A plane maybe wish cuz you got cash or ur family got contact to get or work invoice for a business. I watched this movie so many times or hundreds of plus cuz every state is a different fox or for me Cartoon Network/ Disney/ and even Nickelodeon.
It's better that way.. he has no one to talk to. He doesn't seem particularly well educated (not that all soldiers are uneducated but he's a farmer from east Tennessee drafted into ww1)
Beating a son has no justification. Even tho that generation. The one who fought in the trenches. Even if they managed to comeback home. They already died in the battlefield.
most of the times i don't buy into this emotional hollywood shit but the moment you realize those things he talks about is no fiction this scene cuts incredibly deep
He went back to earth after the kid said to him german, if you are acting just like those you fought against, how can you be better than them? Even if the words were said through the kids eyes, he must have felt demolished.
Great actors in this movie , I recognize 3 off the bat from another war movie, unlike this movie which is way More of a love story/ drama. This man William Fitchner, josh harnett, and the guy who stutters all were excellent in Blackhawk down.
I came here by hypnotic 2023 when ben affleck focus camera on William ...... Oh i see them in together in somewhere... here is child actor playing young ben but i still gets it
This was the best scene to a disappointing movie. What killed it was the love triangle. It served no purpose. Didn't do anything for the movie. This is a great and emotional prelude to what comes after, letting the viewer know how horrifying war truly is and the effects it had on it's survivors. The rest of the movie is just my best friend fucked my girl. Stupid.
Some people who don’t know their history sort of scoffed at the scene. When the US entered the war, Germany was still in France and Germany was not a defeated army, it was a defeated society and collapsed implosion style. On the battlefield, that was a different story and that led a lot of German soldiers to be extremely bitter and ripe for Hitler’s picking. They were only 50 km from Paris when they got word of the surrender. Total disillusionment
WW1 ended in 1918 and this scene happened in 1923, so American soldiers and families were still getting over the shock of the war. After WW1, the children and youth have this energy without any real cause, and because Germany wasn't America's alley in the war, the children target them as their "play" enemy, even though the war is already over, since it's all they know.
Lost Generation telling what became GI Generation about WWI hell and misery and torment they witnessed in trenches of WWI my great uncle fought in WWI German side.
The power in his voice when he said "I pray to God no one ever see the things that I saw." Gets me every time.
Gets me everytime as well and yet there still people out there that don't understand what joining the service does to you the things they go through the things they see stays with them for the rest of there life some people just don't understand that
Danny’s Father acts cruel sometimes towards his son.. but deep down ,I think he’s still traumatized by what he has seen in WW1 , in a way- I think he’s warning the boys about the Horrors of War ( war is NOT a game)
@@justinhenderson5813 It was difficult for many of these young people to understand what the WW1 veterans gone through because, sadly, America itself was so isolated from the war front. It's only when these young men really got there that they understood. Many sought the WW1 veterans out afterward to ask how to live with it.
It was their support system.
As I am not a believer in God, however I still get a chill when he says I fought the Germans in France, and I fought them in the trenches. As a military collector and somewhat historian of both first and second world wars , I knew his memories would hit him like a sledgehammer with that boys words.
@@travisdozier1357it’s a powerful scene. It always stayed with me throughout the years. He delivers those lines with so much conviction. Especially when we do the research on how bad it really was. And the cherry on top is you have hanz score hit right there. I always say it’s his most underrated score
William Fichtner really is an underrated actor.
That’s gonna cost ya.... lol☺️
He’s cool
But overated for Grand Theft Auto's
ironic is that Fichtner is of german descent. Actually there was a dude named Fichtner member of nazi party and military commander
My late grandfather fought them in WWII under Patton and his maternal side of the family was from a small Rhine River community near Heidelberg. His mother's family immigrated pre-WWI in the late 1800s when she was a child, but many relatives were still over there. My grandfather never said a thing about the war except when really probed like the time his division had to do the duty of uncovering a mass grave. He was proud though of sniping an SS officer in the head and taking his ivory handled Luger as a trophy. I remember him showing it to me as a kid and promising one day it would be mine, but it was later stolen in a burglary so I never got it. Point being, he had a job to do and didn't even think about the fact he may be shooting at distant relatives.
William gives here in his short screen time an absolutely perfect scene.
I saw this about 200+ times, and i still get tears in my eyse.
William, if you read this, you are AMAZING !
An actors actor. The delivery is what makes this scene so compelling
For the whole minute William Fichtner was in this movie he really captured the pain and emotion of a ww1 vet. Speaks volumes of his acting ability. I cannot begin to fathom the horror the vets felt knowing that just 21 year after WW1 ended their children and grand children would fight in another World War. If onlythey knew what a threat the NASDAP would be in 1923.
You know his dad isn’t a really bad person he’s just trying to overcome his challenges
The film reminds me of Grandpa Wayne. He was a Marine and immediately went into war in February 1942 at Guadalcanal. Wayne couldn't believe the trauma he experienced during World War 2.
The way he walked off was the most heartbreaking thing I've ever seen.
When he said he fought the Germans in the trenches that just hit me. Trench warfare was so fucking brutal
WWI was the most brutal and most vicious war in History for first time chemical warfare was used and millions died from it my Great Uncle fought in WWI on the German side he told me stories about the horrors he witnessed.
Man definitely saw some things that no one could ever imagine. The U.S. joined the war late and had to face battle hardened German soldiers. They had to quickly adapt to the horrific nature of trench warfare. Even tho they came in at the end they came home ghosts of who they were after experiencing hell on earth.
Zyzor the irony is gringo goverment still create those hells.
The sad part is the Great War veterans came home unappreciated and then were homeless due to the Great Depression soon after. These men never got the help they needed and many committed suicide .
@@zyzor doesn't sound far from current veterans
In 1918, Germans were only 50 km from Paris. They were certainly not a defeated army. In fact, they weren’t losing at all in the west. The place just imploded back home. Had Germany lost militarily and felt that then Hitler’s narrative about Jewish bankers and so forth would’ve never taken hold. But they did not lose militarily in the west anyway. They just threw in the towel
Probably the worst war ever.
The whole scene says "im not a bad man" the way he walked out tells thousand of pain in his memory..
That. And the realization of what he fought for. That's why he looked at both kids. Forgave the assault. And left.
He was a good dad. Maybe harsh but he wasn’t a bad man. Just a father trying the best for his son when his innocence was lost for a pointless fight.
He fought for his country and suffer a brutal war. Came to America for better life for his son
My god this scene gets to me every time. What a good friend, good son and man despite his issues
We who have seen war, will never stop seeing..
Even though this is acting, I could still feel the emotion pouring out of him, this scene really makes me ponder on the horrors of war and how real they are.😢
It's as real as it gets. Ukrainians are fighting Russians in the trenches right now
The best scene in the movie.
The best and the deepest scene in the whole movie.
When my grandfather who was a marine in world war 2 ,saw this he started crying. i can only imagine the horrors that he saw...
this scene made me cry a little. Take a second to imagine what they did in the war and what they experienced. Really scary
that part made me cry it got me thinking of how bad realy is the war
Me too. I cry everytime I see it.
Damn, that took a turn for the depressing.
I like this scene because Danny knew his daddy had issues.
shell shocked is what we called it before PTSD was even a thing I don't think you should watch shell shocked WW1 soilders vids it's scary sad and that's why we should never repeat history
And Rafe hits Danny's Father in head for Danny's Father not Screaming with Danny and Rafe Insults Danny's Father and calls him (Dirty German) and Danny's Father says he fought the germans in france and goes home and Danny thanking to rafe for saves his life and He Goes After his Dad and Both are Going Home.
He is such a great actor! One of my favorites.
When I was a kid I didn't know the dialogue "I fought the Germans in France..." So he was a WW1 Vet.
Harold Blando that’s correct. They had mustard gas
Same
Belleau wood, the Argonne! the Americans in less than 1 year lost 116,708 soldiers in France!
I fought The Germans 🇩🇪 in France🇫🇷
@@EscanV The British lost about 2/3 of that in one day at the Somme.
A broken man dealing with survivors guilt and ptsd
No one knows the suffering and pain a soldier endured.
Nothing justifies hurting kids.
I haven’t seen this movie in full in probably ten years or longer. Last time I watched it was on VHS, just to give a clue to the timeline.
Most of it has been pretty forgettable over time. I remember a few scenes, but most of it has faded from my memory.
This scene was so powerful and so profound it has never left me, to the point twenty years after it was released I’m looking it up on TH-cam just to see it again.
That speaks volumes to the dialogue, the acting, and the directing. One of the most memorable moments in film of the 21st century.
I will never know how some actors play the role so we'll put emotions in to it that seem so real and relatable. Even though a washed up drunk vet. That line always gets to me. Where he wishes no had to see what he saw. It's relatable to someone going through depression, darkness, some real tough times. Times you wouldn't wish on anyone.
This scene is so heartbreaking. My neighbor was a Green Beret in Vietnam and I would never ask him what he saw as a sign of respect for what he did to ensure this country was safe, but with hearing the ptsd attacks next door every once in a while, I could only imagine what he saw. Also, just finished learning about WW1 in class and I understand fully what happened and it opens my eyes more to what he Fichtner possibly saw.
Watched the movie but out of all the scenes, this one stuck with me the most and i dont know how to explain why, I only know it broke my heart more than the actual war scenes
It shocked me, to see his face so of numbed misery and how his voice broke when he was talking to the boys
My old 4H leader flew helicopters in Vietnam, I only asked him about it once and when he talked about it I never saw heartbreak in man’s eyes as deep as that.
Went from hating him to respecting the shit out of him.
DAMN KIDS!
DAMN KIDS!? If that's a joke, I don't find it funny. He had that coming.
Saddest scene in the entire movie period
The way he looks at the kids after he says he prays nobody has to see the thing he saw. 1000 yard stare
Literral Hell on Earth with the WW1 Trench Warfare.
Trench warfare is truly hell on earth
When I saw this movie for the first time 17 years ago, I didn’t understand what he said by, “And I prey to god no one ever has to see the things that I saw.” I’m now starting to really understand when he said that.
Trench warfare was a horrific sight for man to see, yet, both sides were still thinking while fighting, “It’s you or me. What is it going to be?”
Movie starts with a powerful scene
WWI was a massacre. He saw so much action in just a few years. He was left scared.
The gas and the conditions is what did it.
What a shame that Pearl Harbor took place in WWII, not WWI
@@johnnylupin4199 yeah but the father is a WW1 veteran, WW2 came after this scene in the movie!
@Christopher Bateman you r really dumb
@MrHoppers002 every war in fact was worse than the one before when it comes down how tough it was for soldiers
trench warfare was horrific
but a winter in stalingrad was on another level
Then came vietnam where grunts saw more battle then ever before the morale was at rock bottom imagine being drafted after years of active war you knew what awaited but you couldnt imagine how bad it would be then come home to be spat on
fast forward to recent wars how much they strain soldiers with inhuman heavy loadout gear the desert heat
the armament of the enemy getting better and better which is a big factor etc
00:17 I see the fear in his eyes, he is a great actor
“your my best friend.” Definitely one of the best things someone can say to you.
Absolutely.
That scene is the most powerful of the whole movie to me...
0:21 that line alone you know The War Scared the Mans Soul
Love the part. Its so powerful.
I like this scene because Danny knew his dad had some problems but he love him nonetheless. I can count on one hand the times my daddy hugged me.
So sad 😭
I’m sorry.
... As a first responder, I cry for him when I see this.
This guy is more interesting than the movie`s story itself.
Literally where’s his movie
What a scene.
A very great underatted scene
“And I pray to god they nobody ever has to see the things I saw” that’s one of the hardest hitting lines out there and I think a lot of people don’t understand how deep that truly is.
So sad how many men were completely wrecked by the Great War. They were lucky to come home, but most were changed by that experience. We could never understand.
Sometimes I think I am a little tough on my son. Even so, he seem to cling to me when others go against how I discipline him, knowing what I went through in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Thank you for your service
this scene hurts on a different level
WW1 was absolutely horrific, American soldiers had to adapt right away to trench warfare against experienced German troops, all the artillery attacks, the hand to hand combat, the running through no mans land and surviving by a hair
My favourite actor.
One of those amazing scenes-not defending child abuse or anything but you could see he’s a good man who loves his son he just has serious ptsd from experiencing shit most people couldn’t even imagine which I don’t care how good you think you are can make you have serious lapses in judgement in an instant
Love him or hate him Michael Bay has the ability to put together an amazing production as a director
Absolutely!
@@ProjectAzorian I love this scene
Danny's dad is having a PTSD episode, and it is so sad to see when he snaps out of it and looks at Danny and realizes what he was doing to him. My neighbor was a Green Beret in the Vietnam war and I saw his PTSD attacks and they were scary. 😨
Best scene ever.
Dam, just one little BUT powerful scene that crushes you.
Makes me understand why my family changed their german last name around this time.
Stupid German
Alexander Mahone, upperhanded by a child. Brilliant!
beautiful movie.
I always tell people whenever discussing the First World War that of all the conflicts in history that one would not want to be in, this was the mother of all conflicts. Wholesale slaughter, disease, stagnation, trenches, shelling, shellshock, you name it.
I've seen what war does. My 2 Bros served in Iraq and they are scarred.PTSD. both USMC. one was first to invade in 03 the other was in fulljah 05.. But man WW1 and WW2 what those guys saw 1000Xs worst. Daily. my grandpa was in Korea. his wife My grandma told me she had a uncle who served in ww1 she said "when my parents had parties or any family gatherings. If WW1 or 2 or any war was brought up in conversation he would get up and leave the room". I can't imagine what he saw
This scene show what all us did as kids. A plane maybe wish cuz you got cash or ur family got contact to get or work invoice for a business. I watched this movie so many times or hundreds of plus cuz every state is a different fox or for me Cartoon Network/ Disney/ and even Nickelodeon.
This sure says a lot
We are so lost
No we Aren’t
We’re not going anywhere
Yes we are
We have no direction whatsoever
Yes we do
Told you we weren’t going anywhere
The hint that the father is a shell-shocked veteran is interesting. Too bad it wasn't developed.
It's better that way.. he has no one to talk to. He doesn't seem particularly well educated (not that all soldiers are uneducated but he's a farmer from east Tennessee drafted into ww1)
Beating a son has no justification. Even tho that generation. The one who fought in the trenches. Even if they managed to comeback home. They already died in the battlefield.
Scene: we are so lost we have no direction what so ever
Guy: yes we do
End in dead end *
Scene: told u we weren't going any where
Guy: bite me
he got PTSD from WWI and his son died in WW2 (Danny was really dead at the end of the movie), that is a real P A I N of human life
most of the times i don't buy into this emotional hollywood shit but the moment you realize those things he talks about is no fiction this scene cuts incredibly deep
This movie sucks, but this scene is amazing
Mr. Walker is the opening antagonist in the 2001 Michael Bay drama romance war film Pearl Harbor.
agent mahone got beaten down by two kiddo. shame on u mahone
William Fichtner went full Simple Jack for this role.
A sec of his qoute hits me hard...ww1 is worst..even though he's actor I see that in him....very underrated.
First saw this terrible movie when I was 11 or 12,but this scene never got of my memory. Great scene.
The director was trying to say that it was tough times for everyone
He went back to earth after the kid said to him german, if you are acting just like those you fought against, how can you be better than them? Even if the words were said through the kids eyes, he must have felt demolished.
Good movie
Great actors in this movie , I recognize 3 off the bat from another war movie, unlike this movie which is way More of a love story/ drama. This man William Fitchner, josh harnett, and the guy who stutters all were excellent in Blackhawk down.
rafe will always be there for danny
WW1 was the the worst for soldiers compared to WW2
War really is hell, huh? I wonder how he was before the trenches…
when people say. "men dont have emotional"
I came here by hypnotic 2023 when ben affleck focus camera on William ...... Oh i see them in together in somewhere... here is child actor playing young ben but i still gets it
WWI soldiers had to march on Washington for their benefits, never forget that the new deal democrats not only saved veterans, it saved this country.
Alexander Mahone fought in France in his early life.
This was the best scene to a disappointing movie. What killed it was the love triangle. It served no purpose. Didn't do anything for the movie. This is a great and emotional prelude to what comes after, letting the viewer know how horrifying war truly is and the effects it had on it's survivors. The rest of the movie is just my best friend fucked my girl. Stupid.
He was the best part of that movie...like the 1st minute..rest was downhill.
Some people who don’t know their history sort of scoffed at the scene. When the US entered the war, Germany was still in France and Germany was not a defeated army, it was a defeated society and collapsed implosion style. On the battlefield, that was a different story and that led a lot of German soldiers to be extremely bitter and ripe for Hitler’s picking. They were only 50 km from Paris when they got word of the surrender. Total disillusionment
Broo. this scene talking WW1 not WW2
@@cyranova9627 the WW1 ending is what led to WW2.
Cole Walker : I fought the Germans in France, and I fought 'em in the trenches. And I pray to God that nobody has to see what I saw.
Nothing that happened to him excuses hurting his son.
This wasn’t exactly an unusual way for a father to discipline his son in the old days
@@joewhitehead3 Depends and I don't care.
0:47
😂😂🤭🤭😂😂🤣🤣🤭🤭🤣🤣 0:17
It is very rude to call someone “dirty German”
not really rude at that time
Better not to call someone “dirty German”
Wait what does the ww1 trenches have to do with ww2 pilots
WW1 ended in 1918 and this scene happened in 1923, so American soldiers and families were still getting over the shock of the war. After WW1, the children and youth have this energy without any real cause, and because Germany wasn't America's alley in the war, the children target them as their "play" enemy, even though the war is already over, since it's all they know.
A Hirs ok thanks bro
Great Alex mahone
Lost Generation telling what became GI Generation about WWI hell and misery and torment they witnessed in trenches of WWI my great uncle fought in WWI German side.
So I guess the dad fought in WW1
@Screaming Soldier and it was literal hell on earth because of the "trenches".
Sandman before he met captain price.