@@average9101 I'm just saying it's normal for games to buff and nerf things simultaneously because that is the entire point of balancing, nothing else. I'm not here to defend the dev's intentions or decisions on how they balance their towers.
@@Ad3i3 did the cowboy have something similar? The only tower that i know about that also has this weird upgrading system is electroshocker, wtf happened with the fire rate there.
I actually think this a buff to an extent. The higher cost makes this worse to spam at earlier waves, but better at later. Engi is better at dealing with hiddens, too, now doing 10 instead of 8. Not to mention. While the prices seem like they would affect Engi’s general cost with DJ, their actually lower than before. 26,800 will always be better than the 28,000 Engi had before. I don’t think every change is good, however. The increased Deadzone and lower sentry building suck, yes, but That’s a blessing in disguise. As someone who brings Engi to fallen, it would often suck seeing an enemy you probably would’ve killed get away by your Engi re-building a sentry. I think that over all, this may change how Engi works, but I think it will make people realize that Engi’s better than the overpriced accel I saw many write it off before this update.
why tf are u complaining lmao, they hella buffed mortar and rocketeer Stop crying because they nerfed some braindead towers and buffed towers that needed a buff
Hey John. About the damage for the pursuit decrease and say this doesnt happen. Well, it did way back in 2019, with the cowboy whenever it had its galtling gun. I think on level 5 it decrease its damage to 45-15, but it improves fire rate.
the fact that they put the hidden detection early for pursuit almost two weeks ago and then immediately remove it. like are they high or something or this is just an April fools update
update's slightly bad they shouldve not increased the dead zone of rocketeer and remove hd from pursuit (which makes it a bit worse than ace again) engi nerf and mortar buff is much needed, tho the engi sentry cap kinda hurts even if i dont have her yet
@@TheUmbraN0tG4ming yeah it is not like they nerf it to ground or anything. Engi was op with 400+ with 4 sentry but after the nerf it is still the most damage tower. Engi are just having the nerf it deserve. And people are saying it is not worth getting. Like you are skipping accel or smth? By the time you have accel, engi is the last thing you get there is no lost except for time but you already used it on accel. Sure engi is not easy to get but it is not like free for you either. If you want one of if not the best tower you have to use effort. Some people even compare engi with accel+commander like how is that fair? You are comparing 2 towers to 1 and they are both top tier tower. This whole situation is ridiculous. People are nitpicking about a tower that doesn't work as good as before even though they are still one of if not the best tower.
TBH mortar just fells like an over all buff the splash radius was huge but ngl i dint fell like that at all even enemys that where very much inside that huge splash radius where not even damaged in the slightest i think it was more of a visual bug before that is now fixed gving us an actual explosion range at least thats how it felt to me if you want you can dissagre
Tbh if they are really gonna do this to the towers, might as well lower the cost of the towers other than the level towers, engineers gem price should be lowered if they keep this nerf
Enjineer:":god damm,why must be bad as hell...WHYYYY!* Accel:"are you hearing yourself right now?I have like almost an bad down First! My first is now expensive like your upgrade SECOND! My attack is low,do you think your alone? Other tower that got buff/nerf/rebalance:"rly,why you too"
@@adamxxswag it's not useless. Engi needed a nerf. Mortar is now pretty good and doesn't cover the entire fucking map. Rockeeter is a good begginer tower as it should be. And pursuit just lost fuckin 5 dps and hd wich there are so many fuckin options😊
@@TheUmbraN0tG4ming mortar is just another rocketeer now,and the old splash was amazing And pursuit didnt need the nerf,its a lvl 100 tower and it's stats should've stayed
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They buffed 4 towers just to nerf them back in a week. Truly dedicated devs👍
Because it's too overpowered that's what there scared off
@@Paperully they were never that op in the first place
@@amudeas true
It won't even matter since the 5 meta towers are still what you should be using to grind molten
@@amudeas except pursuit
They are really trying to keeep us entertained while we wait for the next big update
Tomorrow will be April fools can’t wait for what they will do with towers
I mean, they released an update right before april fools. I don't think they'll update for april fools.
@@bend-oof tower faces prob
Or maybe that IS the update. They just overhyped it.
wdym it is april fools
It’s funny to see the towers that just got buffed, got nerfed
Thats just how balancing works
@@syouji185well then balancing makes the game 20 times more boring
@@syouji185 explain how a fucking helicopter can't see hiddens anymore? explain
@@average9101 I'm just saying it's normal for games to buff and nerf things simultaneously because that is the entire point of balancing, nothing else. I'm not here to defend the dev's intentions or decisions on how they balance their towers.
@@average9101 You seem a little aggressive after reading my comment, you good?
John’s reaction to the “rebalance” towers is funny ngl 💀
WOAH A NUKE IS A NUKE!1!1!1!1!
@@Ad3i3 did the cowboy have something similar? The only tower that i know about that also has this weird upgrading system is electroshocker, wtf happened with the fire rate there.
@@PythagorasFormula It used to have a minigun upgrade and before the upgrade its damage was higher than the level 5 upgrade but faster firerate
@@crunchyismad3424 the cowboy?
@@PythagorasFormula haul cowboy i believe loses damage at max but as crunchy said it had a faster firerate
They should give pursuit a light. Like a search Helicopter light that grants it Hidden Detection.
radar detection
@@amudeas hidden detection is better
@@mxlaysiann radar vs a search light who can find a camouflage tank in a forrest
not it hidden detection but the towers without hidden like the stealth ace
i honestly wished this “rebalance” was part of the april fools joke
I actually think this a buff to an extent. The higher cost makes this worse to spam at earlier waves, but better at later. Engi is better at dealing with hiddens, too, now doing 10 instead of 8. Not to mention. While the prices seem like they would affect Engi’s general cost with DJ, their actually lower than before. 26,800 will always be better than the 28,000 Engi had before. I don’t think every change is good, however. The increased Deadzone and lower sentry building suck, yes, but That’s a blessing in disguise. As someone who brings Engi to fallen, it would often suck seeing an enemy you probably would’ve killed get away by your Engi re-building a sentry. I think that over all, this may change how Engi works, but I think it will make people realize that Engi’s better than the overpriced accel I saw many write it off before this update.
Why did you actually spend time to write that
@@adamxxswag his choice djdnndd
@@adamxxswag opnion?
@@adamxxswag to share their opinions
Same same i gotta agree ngl
when a futuristic helicopter equipped with tons of missiles cant detect hidden but a dude with shades and a pistol can 🤠
It can detect
John just checked his LEVEL 0
Pursuit, hes just very smart
@@brobot1099 no it can't look the part when John upgrade the pursuit lvl 0 to 5 2:43
Mike sparks levels of logic
Eh hd made objectly pursuit worse due to em being too fast for em to get hit
@@xx_kkkgamer420destroyermlg6 yeah but look at the other levels where is the hidden detection.
as a tf2 player who retired from tds about a year ago, the fact that an engineer can create 2 sentry guns terrifies me
Ayooooo lol
They can make up to 4 also. Nightmarish I know
I liked how they nerfed accel to make engineer better just to nerf it
Exactly this. At this point I question what the devs are doing.
I love how when john sees mortar damage is 250 he immediately just change voices to a sergeant
John taking about life is somehow more entertaining than the gameplay with egg
Whenever Below slightly buff towers, he would just nerf it to the bottom of the mariana trench in 2 days.
They’re not at the bottom of the mariana trench yet
yet..
why tf are u complaining lmao, they hella buffed mortar and rocketeer
Stop crying because they nerfed some braindead towers and buffed towers that needed a buff
Rocketeer has been shoved into a little crevice at the bottom, unable to get out
@@Memistical they're halfway there
When mortar before another rebalance is a nuke in aoe but after the extra rebalance is no longer a true nuke
they basically took off the only thing that differentiated it from Rocketeer.
@@samuelrebelo9301 well it can’t get stunned
Hey John. About the damage for the pursuit decrease and say this doesnt happen. Well, it did way back in 2019, with the cowboy whenever it had its galtling gun. I think on level 5 it decrease its damage to 45-15, but it improves fire rate.
And level 3 outlaw increased firerate in the early days
@@veeer2255 a bunch of towers still decrease fire rate
@@Pine3Def sorry, I had a typo I meant to say increased. Pretty sure it went from 2 sec to 4 sec.
I love when developers says "balanced" when is a fuc### nerf.
same with accel lmao
Below is so *Smart*
Hey at least gold soldier didn't get ruined.
That's great let's change the things we already changed
I've made my mark
That’s was so Amazing! Love your vids keep if the good work man! Your amazing 🤩!
People who farmed for engineer : *why am I still here? Just to suffer?*
Still the best tower
people who are still grinding for enginner: 💀
1:55 if you listen closely you just hear egg chuckling
alt title: John Bobloc and Egg talking about life for half the video
John just absolutely went ballistic when below finally made a nuke a nuke.
the fact that they put the hidden detection early for pursuit almost two weeks ago and then immediately remove it. like are they high or something or this is just an April fools update
1:55 the voice crack lmao
they had a few months to rebalance towers, just to nerf them in the span of a week...yeah makes sense i guess...
April fools
First half: checking rebalances
Second half: John roblox podcast ft. Eggrypted
the life talk is more entertaining than the purpose of the video
update's slightly bad
they shouldve not increased the dead zone of rocketeer and remove hd from pursuit (which makes it a bit worse than ace again)
engi nerf and mortar buff is much needed, tho the engi sentry cap kinda hurts even if i dont have her yet
Engineer is still better than any other tower lmao
@@TheUmbraN0tG4ming yeah it is not like they nerf it to ground or anything. Engi was op with 400+ with 4 sentry but after the nerf it is still the most damage tower. Engi are just having the nerf it deserve. And people are saying it is not worth getting. Like you are skipping accel or smth? By the time you have accel, engi is the last thing you get there is no lost except for time but you already used it on accel. Sure engi is not easy to get but it is not like free for you either. If you want one of if not the best tower you have to use effort. Some people even compare engi with accel+commander like how is that fair? You are comparing 2 towers to 1 and they are both top tier tower. This whole situation is ridiculous. People are nitpicking about a tower that doesn't work as good as before even though they are still one of if not the best tower.
“Mortar buff”
Welp I guess it’s back to the old days spamming minigunners and gold minis
Bro why did they have to remove pursuit stealth detection, the tower was fine by itself already
Who cares that it got its HD removed You have 4 tower slots use them for a another HD tower 😐
I have to say you should try to spend the 60 min in the molten boss fight or fallen I wonder what happens when It ends?
i don’t think john can slow down fallen king
and if i had to guess
you would win the game
maybe try searching that up before you comment it
You would automatically win, wikia tested it
Wikia already did that
You win
A yt did a video abt it you just win
Buff tower to nerfed. Very cool below.
or simply just make pursuit placement limit of 9 rather than losing hd, although it dont make a dif to hc mode so i guess its fine
Buddy, it does no more.
1:40 start going crazy.
thank you devs for balancing towers for a week only to make them dog crap again. Truly the best roblox experience of my life.
i like how it just turned into a podcast near the end of the video
tds: *buffs towers*
players: yay
tds: sike sorta
I love your cooking videos idk why but its just funny when you used a gun to shoot that black stuff of a plate
This update is honestly so bad wow I hate pursuits change
This went from TDS update video, to a fucking podcast
"THE NUKE IS A NUKE WOOAA-" got me
i believe that john will have a podcast soon
epic update swaggers, also my bday is on Sunday have a good day John
They are really trying to keep us entertained while we wait for TDX to release.
Tower blitz balancing still better better tho
Yeah tbh tower blitz is such a balanced game
TBH mortar just fells like an over all buff
the splash radius was huge but ngl i dint fell like that at all even enemys that where very much inside that huge splash radius where not even damaged in the slightest
i think it was more of a visual bug before that is now fixed gving us an actual explosion range
at least thats how it felt to me if you want you can dissagre
1st the splash before was glitched but then got fixed
2nd mortar is just another rocketeer now
Whenever you get ‘mad’ it’s so funny lol
Below decides to not update and finally come back to give us some NERFS
Pursuit a level 100 or 1000 robux tower I feel like it kinda has to be good and be able to see hiddens pursuit ain't gonna get used that often anymore
I love the part where Below did the “rebalancing” of towers by nerfing them. Truly an TDS experience.
edit: I’ve started a war over a pixel game
Litteraly the meaning of that word
rebalancing is different.
@@man-tb6xu tds dev is lazy
@@man-tb6xu ???, Rebalancing means to fix it or nerf and buff.
@@epikjoe4189 wasnt talking to you
RIP pursuit’s hidden detection
Me right now: 3:14 - 3:32
1:33 - 1:57 John going ballistic about his game tdx competing against tds just because of the damage of the nukes XD
I used pursuit for it for hidden detection
man i remember i found Egg a few months ago in crim, and he was wearing a furry suit
Tbh if they are really gonna do this to the towers, might as well lower the cost of the towers other than the level towers, engineers gem price should be lowered if they keep this nerf
Enjineer:":god damm,why must be bad as hell...WHYYYY!*
Accel:"are you hearing yourself right now?I have like almost an bad down First! My first is now expensive like your upgrade SECOND! My attack is low,do you think your alone?
Other tower that got buff/nerf/rebalance:"rly,why you too"
They just nerfed towers that they buffed 6 days ago.... 10/1000 update
Below just made these towers better then nerf next update WOW
they did this right after the buff and yet they delay events that last like 9 days only
i with the people that say that this better just be an April fools update
Seems the snicker and scout so far have the only good changes
they should have kept mortar explosion radius
Wow I was excited and now I feel depressed
tbh removing hd from pursuit is fair, cuz pursuit is not supposed to be used on its own to beat up everything :d
1:38 LOL
Roller coster update went 0 to 100 and goes down pretty quickly 😤
i feel like the rebalances are part of the April fools update
i hope so
Only thing I like about engi rebalance is the cost, before 28k, now 26k
glad to see a toyboard remake
I have seen tower defense games take away fire rate and add DMG but never just take away DMG.
john and egg having a weird but friendly relationship is kinda funny for a guy that is 20+ yrs and a guy who is in college and a former furry is funny
bro just talks about life and has a friendly talk in the middle of the video lol
Tds do be planning to rework every map and adding a beta mod
When you said that you've never seen a tower lower its damage i instantly though of old cowboy last upgrade
Lol the last five minutes we're just two dudes talking about life in silly Lego game
Love your vids bro
1:34-1:58 funniest part
NO APRIL FOOLS?
"HE MADE THE NUKE, A NUKE!" - john
1:33 egg just waiting patiently for John to stop his monke mode
They changed the names of engineer's upgrade but not the images
they shouldnt of changed pursuit again it was good, and they only added 2 new maps, and the other 2 were literally already in the game just changed
The part where John asks Egg about his life is actually really wholesome tbh
tds so unbalanced they have to balance it again
Noo poursuit no hidden detec
Truly the good lord giveth and he taketh away.
the nuke is a nuke!!! the best part of this video
Commander: please buff me
:edit btw I’m your 421 liker
If you buff towers, only to nerf them in to the ground in a week, you shouldnt even make updates at this point
Wow,so I spent 2 month grinding for engineer for it to be nerfed?WOW
1:33 yey they back massive Mortan nerf
Is it me or am I seeing a lot of nerfs in TDS updates?
Nonetheless I don't play it no more :)
You screamed so loud that you woke up Australia
It seems like tds is pushing out more updates so hey that’s great
they have like no ideas so they rebalance the towers that were litterally rebalanced prior update like wtf
More useless updates*
@@adamxxswag Yea but at least they are updating their game lol
@@adamxxswag it's not useless. Engi needed a nerf. Mortar is now pretty good and doesn't cover the entire fucking map. Rockeeter is a good begginer tower as it should be. And pursuit just lost fuckin 5 dps and hd wich there are so many fuckin options😊
@@TheUmbraN0tG4ming mortar is just another rocketeer now,and the old splash was amazing
And pursuit didnt need the nerf,its a lvl 100 tower and it's stats should've stayed
Now it's time for play geometry defense
I sure dont hope Below would nerf the once OP tower(engineer) to a garbage like Mortar, it may sounded impossible but who knows
ENGINEER IS STILL THE BEST TOWER IN THE GAME OMG STOP MAKING NO SENSE
John Roblox forgot the pursuit spinning speed reduce
The commander dailogs got changed to funny
paradoxum try to call it a nerf and not a rebalance challenge