Bleach was in many ways both a product of the old era and also ahead of its time. I find it interesting that, at the time, Bleach was frequently disregarded as the weakest among the Big 3, but still the ideas that Tite Kubo introduced to the medium had more influence than those of the more successful series.
This is the most compelling video about bleach's influence in new gen manga. In fearing of axe from shonen jump , new gen mangaka need to make something attractive to audience , something original while put in the bricks of worldbuilding , introducing interesting characters, and power system as fast as they can. So following bleach is the easiest way instead of slowburn like one piece or emotional , flashback heavy like naruto out of the big 3. Also mangaka can portray their full potential of creativity and originality just like kubo's bankai design. Eventhough Jump's editor drilled dragonball concept onto Kubo, but he came out with something fresh and different. No tournament arc trope , no self-centric Mc who wanna be the strongest or higher in hierarchy , training arc trope just mini subplot, so much details in reasoning even in small things happen like calling out skill's name and the power of names.
@@tinfoilslacks3750yeah but their still heavy Dragon Ball influences in Bleach like the manga paneling action sequences white backgrounds character progressions n entire arcs dedicated to overwhelming villians
PEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (but bleach does not get alot of love like onepiece and naruto but if were being honest bleach has made the foot steps for the gen 3 and other animes)
True, of the Big 3 Bleach is the last one I'm watching, and it's good but I'm finding it difficult to catch up. While I finished Naruto so fast and even caught up with One Piece in a very short time. So, in terms of what story captures my attention I'd put One Piece on top. Bleach is cool
@simontemo6277 OP is very easy to understand cuz literally everything is explained to our faces, ...Bleach doesn't do that infact it wants us to be the Sherlock and piece it together. Kubo confidence that while he loves to troll his Fans, he never said there is nothing soo deep into his story infact if you see all his interactions with Fans ... he always Points out mysteries which longtime Bleach fans can immediately pick up ... cuz they're used to it. But even for me, I found Bleach far far more enjoyable than OP cuz how Much Head it wants you to run, ..gives a good Brain exercise. That's why whenever i feel kinda lazy in the head i Read Detectives Conan and Bleach, Both make your head run in different ways...😅 While Other of Big 3 just kinda makes u feel dumb at times
A weird thing about Bleach (which is amazing) is that it's the least talked about of the big three but anime fans consider it by far the best of the big three in terms of quality (both manga and anime)
Bleach is easily the best of the Big 3, and saying it took inspiration from Yu Yu Hakusho is insulting to Bleach's quality, since their only similarities are literally surface level religious inspirations that are pure coincidence. Any claims beyond that being hating. Also, My Hero Academia's foreshadowing and writing are similar to Bleach as well.
Tbf for Kubo, Bleach was inspired by one of the classic goated anime, Saint Seiya. Heck there's even an arc in Saint Seiya which was really similar to the Soul Society arc, from start to finish, as well as the main villain reveal.
@pokeczarelf Kubo was influenced by a ton of 80s manga. So much so that it's weird that a common Fist of the North Star reference never showed up in the series. Also, according to a friend of mine who has actually read/seen Saint Seiya in its entirety told me that Reiryoku and Cosmo share elements as well.
Bleach, Naruto, and HxH are literally the 3 main inspirations for new gen anime/manga. JJK, the Domain Expansion is literally based off of Tosen’s Bankai Gege even admitted it himself! The Cursed Spirits are based off of Hollows. The teams are based off of Naruto because you basically have the entire team 7 in JJK even with the Sensei Kakashi! But the cursed techniques and some of the other things that have to do with powers and abilities is clearly based off HxH. Demon Slayer is definitely based off of Bleach! The Hashira as you said was the main inspiration taken from Bleach. And the mangaka says this them self that the Hashira is based off of the Gotei 13. And also the sword Fights etc etc. I don’t even need to say anything about Black Cover because you basically said everything that I know about that was taken from Bleach. The only one that I really don’t know what’s really taken from Bleach is My Hero. I can’t think of too much taken from it. I know that there are so stuff here and there, but I can’t think of everything though.
Gotta agree for the most part, you definitely made some stretches but whatever. I think a lot of people who argue Naruto on this topic don't really look deep enough into the supposed inspirations themselves too realize that Naruto was very influential but just not too the extent Bleach was, like so many people called Gojo a Kakashi clone just because he was strong, had white hair and was covering a part of his face, despite the fact that he's way more similar to Urahara as an actual character. Also while Bleach took inspiration from Saint Seiya in various ways, Naruto is way more similar too its 3 big influences, those being Dragon Ball, HxH and Ninku, you can trace a lot of what Naruto supposedly influenced others on to those 3 while i feel Bleach started more of its own concepts at least to my knowledge.
I love bleach so much I mean in what other anime where almost every characters deserve their own series? Lol There are so many quality characters to love. The main character - Ichigo The battle hungry - Kenpachi The lovable noble - Byakuya The smartest of all - Urahara The badass lazy guy - Shunsui The mysterious snake guy - Gin The baddest motherfucker - Aizen My favorite - Shinji Hirako The hottest babe - Yoruichi The coolest female character - Rukia Any many more!! Ulquiorra, grimmjow, stark, barragan, renji, yamamoto, Mommy Unohana, Toshiro, Mayuri etc etc Even the story of tosen and komamura, hisagi Ikkaku is cool as well! Even the original gotei 13!!! Which is worthy of another arc! Not to mention tokinada from the noble I know there is much more
Bro There are very Few Manga Artist who i respect for similar or Unique Reasons.. -Tite Kubo is definitely One of them along with .... -Sui Ishida (Tokyo Ghoul Manga) -Kentaro sensei (Berserk) -Vagabond (Inoue sensei) -Naoki Urasawa (Monster manga) -Junghi Itoh (horror author) - and Recently _Tatsuki Mujimoto_ is Becoming my Favorite cuz of his Eccentric Stories like chainsawman which again hold the Similar DNA as BLEACH. KUB○ Sensei has become my go to .. when i wish to create Marvelous Personas and world-lore he's just Godly, and His Art is simply Magic, ...Of all anime i have Watched Only Ichida sans and Kubo sensei's Art Goes Far better than their Anime counterpart.
Hey , Ik its not related to anime. But since ur a basketball fan. How much do you think it would take for midorima to beat stephen's curry 3 point record if he was in the nba =)? Also nice video btw . I just subscribed. Oh and my favorite sensei has to be kisuke urahara.
This is actually such a great topic if the toxic fans stay away. I would say that Bleach in fact has the most of its DNA on the new series. Demon Slayer's hashiras are 100% the gotei and definitely so inspired by Bleach. JJK I would say is equally inspired by Togashi as the power system is similar to nen and both JJK and Bleach have huge similarities to Yuyu Hakusho Black Clover is the perfect balance of the big 3. It has the power system most like Naruto, the captains which are just like Gotei and an excellent core cast of 10ish characters which steal the show just like One Piece. Damn Black Clover is good!
4:19 i would push back...ryuken uryû dad n looks like Nanami. Yeah gojo is kisuke urahara...but designed kike Kakashi. And i actually was expecting kakashi to be like gojo and then i watched it....and was dumbfounded...kakashi my man..but Naruto fans you wrong
honestly DBZ is a pretty basic anime. It had a worse story compared to the og. The fights were cool but nothing tactical. Goku also stopped using martials arts and the characters just were just spamming ki blasts and throwing the same punches over and over again. Its a good show to watch if someone tries to get into anime but nothing special tbh
Dragon Ball has this effect in my opinion where as it was such a foundational work that all the works inspired by it went on to make their own changes that also inspired other later works that made their own changes and most series despite owing a certain level of props to Dragon Ball feel very different.
@@jamarnabors9393 is was supposed to be in regards to their impact and how much they’re respected not their individual skill. Like how Beas is respected and “your favorite hoopers favorite hooper” and how a lot of players now model their games after pg
@3KageSummitYT Mainly stuff that isn't generic battle shonen from shonen jump. I got into alya hides her feelings in Russian recently and I am enjoying it.
@timothymacpherson7452 so you're one of those that things you're cool or have superior taste for calling shonen overrated😭. I thought we left that back in 2016 lmao
@@timothymacpherson7452You like generic slice of life, these dudes like generic battle Shounen, as someone who likes both I can tell you this is a pointless argument.
Naruto quite literally influenced the new gen anime with the same amount as Bleach - Black Clover, My Hero Academia, Kagurabachi, Jujutsu Kaisen, the influence of Naruto is clear Many of the new gen villains are HEAVILY influenced by the famous Naruto villains as well You should give the flowers to the both series
To say the same amount is disingenuous. The naruto influence in new gen tends to be shallow and surface level. For example, asta wants to be wizard kind like naruto wants to be hokage, or jjk's main trio being 2 boys and a girl like team 7. However in terms of character behaviours, dynamics and ideologies, themes, world building, powers/abilities, story telling and much more, new gen is very clearly inspired by Tite Kubo's magnum opus. It's clear to see for anyone who isn't being biased. Naruto should still be given its flowers but there's no new gen that's taken more or even an equal amount of inspiration from naruto than it has for bleach
@@terakoinfinity9523can you give me an example of these character behaviours, dynamics and ideologies, themes, world building, abilities and story telling?
The point wasn’t skill level it was impact /inspo. Melo’s game is beautiful but no one is copying it. But young bucks like kiyan Anthony and Brandon miller are naming pg as their inspo. Plus I picked beas for the “favorite hoopers favorite hooper” quote
@3KageSummitYT that's fair I really like the concept of the comparison between basketball and anime I kinda do the same myself. I get the inspo part but kinda going more in to the big 3 aspect I always kinda saw like LeBron, D Wade, and Melo being like One Piece, Naruto and Bleach. respectively.
@@Kaden786 if you watch new gen animes, you can clearly see that mostly it was inspired by bleach. If i remember right Bleach was announced to be the "father" of the new gen shonen animes
@@crisis514 kurama inspired sukuna (said by gege), horikoshi called Naruto the best shonen and said that it was his main inspiration for mha, the kagurabachi author said that Naruto and john wick was their main inspiration. Buddy the demon slayer author also said Naruto inspired part of it
Bleach being the most influential is a fact, but one piece has more on just normal people since EVERYONE that is slightly interested in anime knows about Gear 5; its not speculation, its fact. Bleech might be the father of the new gen anime, but when the second Dragon Ball Z comes in, Bleech will be like, "Hello, father ive been waiting for you
This isn't the discussion at all, also I can confirm I know people "Slightly interested in anime" that don't know shit about One Piece, and that's just life, you can be the biggest dude around and still be unknown to many. Also Dragon Ball isn't a part of this either seeing as it primarily inspired 90s and early 2000s series, were talking new gen anime, not anime in general.
Maybe I’m really not disagreeing. I just think Naruto similarities are more so generic tropes, while some of the bleach ones are so specific that they need to be a callback/reference
I think systems of term corps hero and magic knight yeah just like Shinobi smiliraty much i dont see much if mha vibe to bleach but more to Naruto post timeskip and most likely close yeah is black clover JUJUTSU KAISEN and Demon Slayer but DS has bit ruroni kenshi and hxh vibes And chainsawman more to scene fight systems concept being to jojo and berserk
Naruto being bigger doesn't really mean anything when the people being inspired that we're discussing here are authors, Bleach could have been significantly less popular than it is already but still have specially been what the authors of a lot of current series read and took inspiration from. Not arguing against your overall opinion but your reasoning lacks logic.
Bleach is not the most influential of the big 3. Naruto inspired the new 3 just as much if not more than bleach. Lets stop the cap no matter how hard these clowns wanna fake ignorance 😂😂😂
That has nothing to do with influencing new gen anime. Since I’ve never seen tanjiro, deku, asta or yuji wear an akatsuki cloak 😭but Naruto is influential , I’m not saying it isn’t
@@3KageSummitYT Its a Naruto fan bro, you can't win with them, bleach is the most influence anime in the new Gen, they think because Naruto was more popular then bleach means Naruto has to be, which isn't true
@@3KageSummitYT Yah bro I like Naruto too and its amazing story but just because another people got more inspired by bleach doesn't mean Naruto wasn't a good story
Youre the one with the L take tho? Naruto is generic so its not that hard to find similarities in other animes, but bleach its actually easy to see the influence and inspiration
Bruh.. if u had said that to me 5 months back, i would have agreed with u strongly But plz.. get Your Comprehensive ability checked.. Bleach is so above HxH. and that's not even an opinion but facts, the style of Storytelling which Bleach takes on is soo professional that ... Bleach often feels like the most Realistic Shonen or the most Un-anime like and i love it how effortlessly it can be comical yet Switch to absolute depth of Life in the very next moment. HxH is cool it's far better than Naruto but It's just as Good as One Piece, nothing as crazy GOATed as BLEACH. Any random Bleach philosophy alone can rival meruem's crazy pov.. forget other exclusive stuff....
Bleach was in many ways both a product of the old era and also ahead of its time. I find it interesting that, at the time, Bleach was frequently disregarded as the weakest among the Big 3, but still the ideas that Tite Kubo introduced to the medium had more influence than those of the more successful series.
No seriously, it’s like the forgotten middle child but when you really look deep into these newer shows .. tiny bits of bleach is sprinkled in there
There are a handful of Bankai that are flat out domain expansions. Shunsui, Tosen, and even Byakuya’s at a certain point.
If you really wanted to stretch, you could say that Shinji's bankai is a domain as well, similar to how Sukuna can use it
@@realmdarkness Sukuna's domain expansion is literally a visual copy paste of Ichibei's
even as somebody who's never seen bleach, i see it asf
Bro the callbacks and references really sneak up on you. Underrated for sure
This is the most compelling video about bleach's influence in new gen manga. In fearing of axe from shonen jump , new gen mangaka need to make something attractive to audience , something original while put in the bricks of worldbuilding , introducing interesting characters, and power system as fast as they can. So following bleach is the easiest way instead of slowburn like one piece or emotional , flashback heavy like naruto out of the big 3. Also mangaka can portray their full potential of creativity and originality just like kubo's bankai design. Eventhough Jump's editor drilled dragonball concept onto Kubo, but he came out with something fresh and different. No tournament arc trope , no self-centric Mc who wanna be the strongest or higher in hierarchy , training arc trope just mini subplot, so much details in reasoning even in small things happen like calling out skill's name and the power of names.
Despite Jump's attempts to drill Dragon Ball into Kubo, Bleach is super obviously inspired by Saint Seiya primarily.
@@tinfoilslacks3750yeah but their still heavy Dragon Ball influences in Bleach like the manga paneling action sequences white backgrounds character progressions n entire arcs dedicated to overwhelming villians
Bleach begins with Death and strawberry and Ends with Death and strawberry
Jujutsu Kaisen begins with Sukuna's finger and Ends with Sukuna's finger
Biggest Homage to BLEACH, my my Gege Really is a Fanboy of kubo
PEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (but bleach does not get alot of love like onepiece and naruto but if were being honest bleach has made the foot steps for the gen 3 and other animes)
Definitely bro... Bleach is way better Shaped as a Serie than most Shonen not just Naruto & OP
True, of the Big 3 Bleach is the last one I'm watching, and it's good but I'm finding it difficult to catch up. While I finished Naruto so fast and even caught up with One Piece in a very short time. So, in terms of what story captures my attention I'd put One Piece on top. Bleach is cool
@simontemo6277 OP is very easy to understand cuz literally everything is explained to our faces, ...Bleach doesn't do that infact it wants us to be the Sherlock and piece it together.
Kubo confidence that while he loves to troll his Fans, he never said there is nothing soo deep into his story infact if you see all his interactions with Fans ... he always Points out mysteries which longtime Bleach fans can immediately pick up ... cuz they're used to it.
But even for me, I found Bleach far far more enjoyable than OP cuz how Much Head it wants you to run, ..gives a good Brain exercise.
That's why whenever i feel kinda lazy in the head i Read Detectives Conan and Bleach, Both make your head run in different ways...😅
While Other of Big 3 just kinda makes u feel dumb at times
Bleach fans are nuts
Oh, its not only Horikoshi who drew a tribute to Bleach's 20th anniversary, Akutami, Gotouge and Tabata also drew one themselves. Anyways, nice video.
A weird thing about Bleach (which is amazing) is that it's the least talked about of the big three but anime fans consider it by far the best of the big three in terms of quality (both manga and anime)
Bleach is easily the best of the Big 3, and saying it took inspiration from Yu Yu Hakusho is insulting to Bleach's quality, since their only similarities are literally surface level religious inspirations that are pure coincidence. Any claims beyond that being hating.
Also, My Hero Academia's foreshadowing and writing are similar to Bleach as well.
Tbf for Kubo, Bleach was inspired by one of the classic goated anime, Saint Seiya. Heck there's even an arc in Saint Seiya which was really similar to the Soul Society arc, from start to finish, as well as the main villain reveal.
@pokeczarelf Kubo was influenced by a ton of 80s manga. So much so that it's weird that a common Fist of the North Star reference never showed up in the series. Also, according to a friend of mine who has actually read/seen Saint Seiya in its entirety told me that Reiryoku and Cosmo share elements as well.
Simple and clear Bleach was inspired from Saint seiya and Gegege no kitaro
@@shubhransuoram1510 bleach also takes after berserk as usual
@@orpheemulemo8053 cope
Bleach, Naruto, and HxH are literally the 3 main inspirations for new gen anime/manga.
JJK, the Domain Expansion is literally based off of Tosen’s Bankai Gege even admitted it himself! The Cursed Spirits are based off of Hollows. The teams are based off of Naruto because you basically have the entire team 7 in JJK even with the Sensei Kakashi! But the cursed techniques and some of the other things that have to do with powers and abilities is clearly based off HxH.
Demon Slayer is definitely based off of Bleach! The Hashira as you said was the main inspiration taken from Bleach. And the mangaka says this them self that the Hashira is based off of the Gotei 13. And also the sword
Fights etc etc.
I don’t even need to say anything about Black Cover because you basically said everything that I know about that was taken from Bleach.
The only one that I really don’t know what’s really taken from Bleach is My Hero. I can’t think of too much taken from it. I know that there are so stuff here and there, but I can’t think of everything though.
Tite kubo is the fucking goat in writing. Like in big three, tite kubo clear on intellectual writing.
Love this video. I was JUST saying this. I'm kind of an OG now from Toonami days.
Keep it up bro! You'll get there. Great analysis
@@wingman5044 thank you man
Gotta agree for the most part, you definitely made some stretches but whatever. I think a lot of people who argue Naruto on this topic don't really look deep enough into the supposed inspirations themselves too realize that Naruto was very influential but just not too the extent Bleach was, like so many people called Gojo a Kakashi clone just because he was strong, had white hair and was covering a part of his face, despite the fact that he's way more similar to Urahara as an actual character. Also while Bleach took inspiration from Saint Seiya in various ways, Naruto is way more similar too its 3 big influences, those being Dragon Ball, HxH and Ninku, you can trace a lot of what Naruto supposedly influenced others on to those 3 while i feel Bleach started more of its own concepts at least to my knowledge.
My first of video n of yours.....im n loving it. Im an up and n comer on the bleach tube.i see bleach EVERYWHERE and IM HERE FORbIT
I love bleach so much
I mean in what other anime where almost every characters deserve their own series? Lol
There are so many quality characters to love.
The main character - Ichigo
The battle hungry - Kenpachi
The lovable noble - Byakuya
The smartest of all - Urahara
The badass lazy guy - Shunsui
The mysterious snake guy - Gin
The baddest motherfucker - Aizen
My favorite - Shinji Hirako
The hottest babe - Yoruichi
The coolest female character - Rukia
Any many more!!
Ulquiorra, grimmjow, stark, barragan, renji, yamamoto, Mommy Unohana, Toshiro, Mayuri etc etc
Even the story of tosen and komamura, hisagi
Ikkaku is cool as well!
Even the original gotei 13!!! Which is worthy of another arc!
Not to mention tokinada from the noble
I know there is much more
Naruto.
another thing that it influnced is that shonuen are now seasonal instead of continuous with filler
Bleach was released seasonally? Tf was all the filler arcs for?
@projectmessiah it wasn't released seasonally, but the terrible use of filler made companies change how they released shounen
@@DJCooL4 That wasn't just a Bleach thing though
Nice video! i'd also say the Espada inspired the Twelve Kizuki from DS
@@tobypindus523 thank you man! I didn’t even think to include them and I should’ve
@@3KageSummitYT can you make more videos on bleach anime
@@amam-r2p I like to switch it up but there will for sure be more videos on bleach to come
Gojo was inspired but one the examiners in the shounen exam lol,even his demenor
Bro There are very Few Manga Artist who i respect for similar or Unique Reasons..
-Tite Kubo is definitely One of them along with ....
-Sui Ishida (Tokyo Ghoul Manga)
-Kentaro sensei (Berserk)
-Vagabond (Inoue sensei)
-Naoki Urasawa (Monster manga)
-Junghi Itoh (horror author)
- and Recently _Tatsuki Mujimoto_ is Becoming my Favorite cuz of his Eccentric Stories like chainsawman which again hold the Similar DNA as BLEACH.
KUB○ Sensei has become my go to .. when i wish to create Marvelous Personas and world-lore he's just Godly, and His Art is simply Magic, ...Of all anime i have Watched Only Ichida sans and Kubo sensei's Art Goes Far better than their Anime counterpart.
bleach is amazing
Hey , Ik its not related to anime. But since ur a basketball fan. How much do you think it would take for midorima to beat stephen's curry 3 point record if he was in the nba =)? Also nice video btw . I just subscribed. Oh and my favorite sensei has to be kisuke urahara.
Thank you bro, I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I’d say 5 seasons at most. That’d be like around 9.3 3s a game to eventually pass Steph
Tried to sneak black clover in the thumbnail
Thanks for being up MHA. If you look at it close ita rhere
I like that many hate Bleach but ther favorit anime/manga is inspired of bleach , beacuse thats author favorit . should give bleach some respect
Fr though
This is actually such a great topic if the toxic fans stay away.
I would say that Bleach in fact has the most of its DNA on the new series.
Demon Slayer's hashiras are 100% the gotei and definitely so inspired by Bleach.
JJK I would say is equally inspired by Togashi as the power system is similar to nen and both JJK and Bleach have huge similarities to Yuyu Hakusho
Black Clover is the perfect balance of the big 3. It has the power system most like Naruto, the captains which are just like Gotei and an excellent core cast of 10ish characters which steal the show just like One Piece. Damn Black Clover is good!
@@adoniscreed4031 sadly the toxic fans will never go away 😭
You clowns are even giving fake props to HxH? Bleach fans are a different breed
@@princedame9534nobody cares
Ukitake is my favorite
4:19 i would push back...ryuken uryû dad n looks like Nanami.
Yeah gojo is kisuke urahara...but designed kike Kakashi.
And i actually was expecting kakashi to be like gojo and then i watched it....and was dumbfounded...kakashi my man..but Naruto fans you wrong
I'm like number 90,comment 39
Don't get me wrong I love bleach I just wish that more anime ware like DBZ
honestly DBZ is a pretty basic anime. It had a worse story compared to the og. The fights were cool but nothing tactical. Goku also stopped using martials arts and the characters just were just spamming ki blasts and throwing the same punches over and over again. Its a good show to watch if someone tries to get into anime but nothing special tbh
Dragon Ball has this effect in my opinion where as it was such a foundational work that all the works inspired by it went on to make their own changes that also inspired other later works that made their own changes and most series despite owing a certain level of props to Dragon Ball feel very different.
peak
Naruto is the same imo
Disrespectful calling bleach mike Beasley and Pg is crazy
I really ain’t mean it in a disrespectful way😭
@@jamarnabors9393 is was supposed to be in regards to their impact and how much they’re respected not their individual skill. Like how Beas is respected and “your favorite hoopers favorite hooper” and how a lot of players now model their games after pg
Bankai
naruto bleach hxh all are the fathers not just bleach
of course they all had inspirations, but Bleach had the most influence overall. Characters, power system divisions and etc
@thecubeheadguy6747 no it’s didn’t 😂
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Its fitting because almost all the shows talked about in this video are overrated and oversaturated as hell.
What are some good not overrated anime to you ?
@3KageSummitYT Mainly stuff that isn't generic battle shonen from shonen jump. I got into alya hides her feelings in Russian recently and I am enjoying it.
@timothymacpherson7452 so you're one of those that things you're cool or have superior taste for calling shonen overrated😭. I thought we left that back in 2016 lmao
@@terakoinfinity9523 What happened back in 2016?
@@timothymacpherson7452You like generic slice of life, these dudes like generic battle Shounen, as someone who likes both I can tell you this is a pointless argument.
Naruto quite literally influenced the new gen anime with the same amount as Bleach - Black Clover, My Hero Academia, Kagurabachi, Jujutsu Kaisen, the influence of Naruto is clear
Many of the new gen villains are HEAVILY influenced by the famous Naruto villains as well
You should give the flowers to the both series
To say the same amount is disingenuous. The naruto influence in new gen tends to be shallow and surface level.
For example, asta wants to be wizard kind like naruto wants to be hokage, or jjk's main trio being 2 boys and a girl like team 7.
However in terms of character behaviours, dynamics and ideologies, themes, world building, powers/abilities, story telling and much more, new gen is very clearly inspired by Tite Kubo's magnum opus. It's clear to see for anyone who isn't being biased.
Naruto should still be given its flowers but there's no new gen that's taken more or even an equal amount of inspiration from naruto than it has for bleach
@ zip it up when you are done buddy
Gang you should’ve made this video. That was so beautifully put 🫡
@@terakoinfinity9523can you give me an example of these character behaviours, dynamics and ideologies, themes, world building, abilities and story telling?
Thank you lol it’s hilarious to try to give bleach all the credit when black clover and jjk literally scream Naruto 😂😂
Beasley is blasphemous, PG is better, Melo is the true comparison.
The point wasn’t skill level it was impact /inspo. Melo’s game is beautiful but no one is copying it. But young bucks like kiyan Anthony and Brandon miller are naming pg as their inspo. Plus I picked beas for the “favorite hoopers favorite hooper” quote
@3KageSummitYT that's fair I really like the concept of the comparison between basketball and anime I kinda do the same myself. I get the inspo part but kinda going more in to the big 3 aspect I always kinda saw like LeBron, D Wade, and Melo being like One Piece, Naruto and Bleach. respectively.
idk prob gojo
Wassup
What’s good bro
This video is the definition of recency bias lol
This isn't recent, people have been saying this for years
@@adaurysantosdon’t fall for the ragebait.
@@Kaden786 if you watch new gen animes, you can clearly see that mostly it was inspired by bleach. If i remember right Bleach was announced to be the "father" of the new gen shonen animes
People hate hearing it but Naruto inspired new gen on the same level as bleach
Personally I think bleach inspired the new generation but I’m not mad at you or anyone saying Naruto has inspired more or just as much as bleach
The shitheads saying this are just straight narutards who can't accept the truth 😂
@@ironmike5539 it was both your the shit head if you ignore that
Lmao, yea it definitely didn’t
@@crisis514 kurama inspired sukuna (said by gege), horikoshi called Naruto the best shonen and said that it was his main inspiration for mha, the kagurabachi author said that Naruto and john wick was their main inspiration. Buddy the demon slayer author also said Naruto inspired part of it
Bleach being the most influential is a fact, but one piece has more on just normal people since EVERYONE that is slightly interested in anime knows about Gear 5; its not speculation, its fact. Bleech might be the father of the new gen anime, but when the second Dragon Ball Z comes in, Bleech will be like, "Hello, father ive been waiting for you
No it’s not a fact
This isn't the discussion at all, also I can confirm I know people "Slightly interested in anime" that don't know shit about One Piece, and that's just life, you can be the biggest dude around and still be unknown to many. Also Dragon Ball isn't a part of this either seeing as it primarily inspired 90s and early 2000s series, were talking new gen anime, not anime in general.
But bleach father is dragon ball
I literally said the big 3 was inspired by dragon ball and yyh maybe 30 seconds unit he video
This is an opinion only people who haven't watched Saint Seiya have
But 90% percent of those similarities are also the same with Naruto
Maybe I’m really not disagreeing. I just think Naruto similarities are more so generic tropes, while some of the bleach ones are so specific that they need to be a callback/reference
@@3KageSummitYT bleach took a lot from saint seya too bro dn't say that bleach didn t take tropes from others
@@Iondaime100 I’ve never said that, I don’t know how you came to that conclusion lol
I think systems of term corps hero and magic knight yeah just like Shinobi smiliraty much i dont see much if mha vibe to bleach but more to Naruto post timeskip and most likely close yeah is black clover JUJUTSU KAISEN and Demon Slayer but DS has bit ruroni kenshi and hxh vibes
And chainsawman more to scene fight systems concept being to jojo and berserk
Bleach is better than Naruto
No it’s not
Sure
I'd personally give that title to hxh because I'm biased
Same
id give it so hxh as well, unbiased i like bleack mroe then hxh
@@qqqknxdw i can 100% say its biased
womp womp
@@saiyan9996 ok saiyan9996
Stop this Naruto is the bigger show and inspired most of these new gen anime from jjk to black clover etc…..
That is just not. If you have seen new gen animes, you will understand why people say Bleach is the most influental
Naruto being bigger doesn't really mean anything when the people being inspired that we're discussing here are authors, Bleach could have been significantly less popular than it is already but still have specially been what the authors of a lot of current series read and took inspiration from. Not arguing against your overall opinion but your reasoning lacks logic.
Bleach is not the most influential of the big 3. Naruto inspired the new 3 just as much if not more than bleach. Lets stop the cap no matter how hard these clowns wanna fake ignorance 😂😂😂
Thank you finally someone says it
You are the clown here bro it's not that deep
Naruto>bleach. And it’s more influential.
Naruto not bleach sir…. People everywhere wear Red cloud …L take Sir
That has nothing to do with influencing new gen anime. Since I’ve never seen tanjiro, deku, asta or yuji wear an akatsuki cloak 😭but Naruto is influential , I’m not saying it isn’t
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Its a Naruto fan bro, you can't win with them, bleach is the most influence anime in the new Gen, they think because Naruto was more popular then bleach means Naruto has to be, which isn't true
I’m already knowing bro. Like I love all of the big 3. My name is literally 3 KAGE summit, but I can separate my bias and just be objective
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Yah bro I like Naruto too and its amazing story but just because another people got more inspired by bleach doesn't mean Naruto wasn't a good story
Youre the one with the L take tho? Naruto is generic so its not that hard to find similarities in other animes, but bleach its actually easy to see the influence and inspiration
HxH > Bleach
I love hxh
Bruh.. if u had said that to me 5 months back, i would have agreed with u strongly
But plz.. get Your Comprehensive ability checked..
Bleach is so above HxH.
and that's not even an opinion but facts,
the style of Storytelling which Bleach takes on is soo professional that ... Bleach often feels like the most Realistic Shonen or the most Un-anime like and i love it how effortlessly it can be comical yet Switch to absolute depth of Life in the very next moment.
HxH is cool it's far better than Naruto but It's just as Good as One Piece, nothing as crazy GOATed as BLEACH.
Any random Bleach philosophy alone can rival meruem's crazy pov.. forget other exclusive stuff....
ok?