Ryu took the ball lower off the bounce than anyone I can remember. Kong Linghui did this pretty well also. Fascinating to see how important this is to return a serve so that it cannot be attacked strongly.
Players that are stronger forehand side in general tend to want to control the short game more with short receive and short touch play. This seems to be so that they can attack long balls with forehand as it takes more room and time to set up. If you watch more backhand-oriented players, they have no problem to attack the shorter balls and play backhand close-table.
@@brianteoh1526 and how many xu xins are there in the world? Remember he is teaching a class of amateurs to be better players, not to emulate his techniques
@@brianteoh1526 Xu Xin is a lefty,he mostly attacks serves that drift long to his forehand.His fh flick is nothing out of the ordinary otherwise he wouldn't run around his forehand to hit backhand flicks.
Nice video and explanation. I am not good in FH flick of backspin serve. I always return with a cut or short receive. This video gives me confidence. One request, please ask the Blue T-shirt to move. He is blocking the camera.
I will try to practice the stop receive although I am a shakehand player - I learnt that I must go into the ball aggressively on the short serve, and take it while it did not yet have the chance to bounce up a lot. Interesting to try!
Why should you? As a shake hand player you could attack with a strong backhand flick or set up a 4th ball attack with a long agressive push as a serve receiver.
@@skuzzle well, I see so many young players doing only this nowadays, the pace is always the same, accelerate the ball, overcome backspin with topspin and so on... However, I found that by varying the pace, using stop blocks sometimes, aggressive long pushes other times, and opening up when it is most suited, I have created a lot of unpredictability in my game and I am winning more, especially against young players who's preference is always to open up - they become predictable, I can immediately be ready for an aggressive block against them.
This short receive looks so easy just because of RSM doing it) It is a difficult element and needs a lot of ball feeling and technique even if you read the serve well
Ryu's idea is slightly outdated. With the bouncier plastic ball, you can flick backspin serves closed to the net effectively. But his point is still valid. A good stop receive is deceptively effective.
It depends,if you are a shakehander and try to backhand flick everything you become vulnerable to no spin serves and serves to the short forehand by lefties.The forehand flick is a technique that even the Chinese try to avoid using.Liu Guoliang said the push return became relevant again with the new ball.
@@dickn.ormous1064 That's very interesting. I would like to hear the rationale behind that reasoning. I had assumed that there's less forehand flick because people started to serve slightly longer than before. Can I ask for the source where LGL talked about it? Much appreciated.
@@TheVampB well,I think it was an article translated by member"zeio" on forum "mytabletennis.net".The Chinese avoid forehand flick,Zhang Zhike was notorious for almost never using the forehand flick return opting for the fh push or the banana flick.Watch any match of Xu Xin Vs Ma Long they always push with the forehand or even run around to push with the backhand.Neither Lin Gauoyang(spelling?)use the forehand flick although as a lefty he gets most serves on his left side.It's a very risky shot in general.I think Harimoto has a good forehand flick used as a rally shot which is totally crazy.The kid is going to invent a new style,I don't know whether he will surpass Fan Zhedong but he has tons of touch and he is not a mere loop machine.
@@TheVampB I'm not sure but the reason maybe is that, although the ball bounces higher, it also gets less spin and goes further from the net, so you have little less angle for a powerfull flick and it becomes less effective? Sorry if my english is bad, I'm from Argentina, and, at competitive but not top level, the flick remains effective, but I could see that at world class it's not strong enough.
Rhu seung min does not understand, J pen is is not good. If Rhu teaches shakehand style to Korean players, only then Korea can be good in table tennis.
![[Eng] Breaking Stereotypes of attack (by Ryu Seung-Min)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/XU5E_aaEBEA/mqdefault.jpg)
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Ryu Seung Min is the gold medalist in Athens Olyimpics 2004 and now he is I.O.C committee member.
These are always brilliant. Appreciate the English subtitles
Thank you for your support.
who's gonna argue with him? one of the world's best and one of my all time favorite players!
Who is he
@@Vxneji yeppp he is one of my favorite player too
@@Vxneji nobody, just the last non-chinese olympics gold medalist, just with one rubber...
@@borisgraell still no name nice.
@@Vxneji His name is Ryu Seung Min, 2004 Olympics Gold Medalist
Very good idea to stand in front of the camera.
sorry for eyesore
Ryu took the ball lower off the bounce than anyone I can remember. Kong Linghui did this pretty well also. Fascinating to see how important this is to return a serve so that it cannot be attacked strongly.
The blue top guy is an eyesore.
blue guy, blocking the video !!!!
I just want to type this exact same comment. ffs.
@@belloweddings2301 tf
@@savekn6964 are you the blue guy?
Anton Yang counter loop him with foreleg
He is one of the legend.. 👍
Замечательная демонстрация! Спасибо!
I always thought Ryu’s receive and return was on another level
conclusion of the whole video @ 3:50. RSM never gets tired of sharing his knowledge & skills on pingpong. mad respects to him😊
This is really helpful, my returns always go high
看柳承敏打球真是太帥了！他是我最喜歡的韓國桌球選手。
如果他也會直拍橫打，一定能和許昕並列世界桌壇巔峰。
他是2004 奥 运 男 单 金 牌，他就是巅峰。
许昕讲真不容易，大球时代。但是讲成就，他远远比不上前辈王皓和马琳以及刘国梁。
The man is wisdom personified. Wonderful.
The blue shirt guy is the best, he blocks everything!!!
I can watch RSM forehand attack the whole day
Thanks for the subtitles. These videos are amazing!
I also noticed this with Ma Long. He rarely do a forehand flick. What he does is he push the ball and attack next as well.
Players that are stronger forehand side in general tend to want to control the short game more with short receive and short touch play. This seems to be so that they can attack long balls with forehand as it takes more room and time to set up. If you watch more backhand-oriented players, they have no problem to attack the shorter balls and play backhand close-table.
Xu xin flicks alot tho..so I'm not sure what to believe anymore but he has incredible footwork that very few people has so...
@@brianteoh1526 and how many xu xins are there in the world? Remember he is teaching a class of amateurs to be better players, not to emulate his techniques
@@brianteoh1526 Xu Xin is a lefty,he mostly attacks serves that drift long to his forehand.His fh flick is nothing out of the ordinary otherwise he wouldn't run around his forehand to hit backhand flicks.
Xu xin is not 1side penhold
류승민 대장님 가르침 감사합니다~
유승민ᆢ 최고의 대한민국의 탁구선수
였다 ᆢ
Aguante el Ryu!! Lo más grande que hay. Puro huevo y corazón
great tutorial from the legend
most powerful forehand ever
definitely
Such great advice. Thanks for uploading.
I just found a new teacher....Master Ryu 🙌🙌
You got a great teacher. That’s for sure
Nice video and explanation. I am not good in FH flick of backspin serve. I always return with a cut or short receive. This video gives me confidence. One request, please ask the Blue T-shirt to move. He is blocking the camera.
I will try to practice the stop receive although I am a shakehand player - I learnt that I must go into the ball aggressively on the short serve, and take it while it did not yet have the chance to bounce up a lot. Interesting to try!
Why should you? As a shake hand player you could attack with a strong backhand flick or set up a 4th ball attack with a long agressive push as a serve receiver.
@@skuzzle well, I see so many young players doing only this nowadays, the pace is always the same, accelerate the ball, overcome backspin with topspin and so on... However, I found that by varying the pace, using stop blocks sometimes, aggressive long pushes other times, and opening up when it is most suited, I have created a lot of unpredictability in my game and I am winning more, especially against young players who's preference is always to open up - they become predictable, I can immediately be ready for an aggressive block against them.
Omg, this is gold!
This short receive looks so easy just because of RSM doing it) It is a difficult element and needs a lot of ball feeling and technique even if you read the serve well
펜홀더는 5손가락을 전부쓰는거니 감각적으로 스톱하시는게 진짜 리얼 일품이시다..
마린도 스톱플레이로 매드무비 많이 찍었죠ㅎㅎ
마린의 감각은 탈 인간계
thanks blue guy, and thanks to the guy to have posted this vidéo very instructive^^
the one that caused me to be reluctant to watch this video was a man in blue blocking out
so inspired
유승민 짱 멋짐. 지금도 멋짐. 짱짱짱
Excuse me sir, you're blocking the camera...
what he is doing in middle , that glasses man? Only blocking camera view
During this technique should hold the racket tight or loose?
The only time you tigthen your racket is when you contact the ball
I can't see this video clearly
전세계를 공포에 떨게한 기술
RSM is brilliant 👏
디테일하게 설명잘해주시네용~
타구감이찰지네
회장님 러버머쓰시는지요?
테너지 05 사용합니다
Met him once at LA Open. He was already fat then. But marvelous technique remains.
Good
Awesome video ! Unfortunately the guy stood just in front of the net 😂
(01:30) Why is this guy blocking the table and camera? He's a villain.
Would be Nice, if we co7ldd true the guy Coverin Camera 😔
Does Ryu Seung Min has his own channel?
Not yet
@@PDPark Oh, thanks. I really wish that he has one.
Wooii mas jgn halangi pandangan dong....😎
앞에아저씨좀비켜주시지
🏓👍
3:50 OMG
동영상을 올릴때 걸리적거리는 사람때문 열받아 안보고 갑니다. 감히 아테네 탁구 금메달 유승민 선수에게 뒷짐지면서 랠리를 할생각을 하다니 운동은 나이가 아닌 잘하는분들께는 나이가 어려도 항상 예의를 갖추어서 배우는건데
Ryu's idea is slightly outdated. With the bouncier plastic ball, you can flick backspin serves closed to the net effectively. But his point is still valid. A good stop receive is deceptively effective.
It depends,if you are a shakehander and try to backhand flick everything you become vulnerable to no spin serves and serves to the short forehand by lefties.The forehand flick is a technique that even the Chinese try to avoid using.Liu Guoliang said the push return became relevant again with the new ball.
@@dickn.ormous1064 That's very interesting. I would like to hear the rationale behind that reasoning. I had assumed that there's less forehand flick because people started to serve slightly longer than before. Can I ask for the source where LGL talked about it? Much appreciated.
@@TheVampB well,I think it was an article translated by member"zeio" on forum "mytabletennis.net".The Chinese avoid forehand flick,Zhang Zhike was notorious for almost never using the forehand flick return opting for the fh push or the banana flick.Watch any match of Xu Xin Vs Ma Long they always push with the forehand or even run around to push with the backhand.Neither Lin Gauoyang(spelling?)use the forehand flick although as a lefty he gets most serves on his left side.It's a very risky shot in general.I think Harimoto has a good forehand flick used as a rally shot which is totally crazy.The kid is going to invent a new style,I don't know whether he will surpass Fan Zhedong but he has tons of touch and he is not a mere loop machine.
@@TheVampB I'm not sure but the reason maybe is that, although the ball bounces higher, it also gets less spin and goes further from the net, so you have little less angle for a powerfull flick and it becomes less effective? Sorry if my english is bad, I'm from Argentina, and, at competitive but not top level, the flick remains effective, but I could see that at world class it's not strong enough.
@@dickn.ormous1064 Thanks. I will try to look it up.
WTF!!! the blue shirt covered the camera!!
Why blue shirt guy chose the best spot to stand
This man gave Liu Guoliang a lot of headache in......???? 2004
WangHao
Athens Olympic
He means that Chinese Coach at this event.
잠깐 보는데도 풋워크 진짜 예술이다
J-pen is so different from C-pen:ma lin makes the ball complicated,Ryu makes the ball simple.
Don't forgot that you have Wang Hao suppressing shankhanders backhand with penholder side spin backhand.
Great video!!!! get rid of the guy standing in the way with the blue shirt
Move out of the way!!!
aggh, I didn't understand his explanation
The guy in the blue shirt why stand in front of the camera? Cant see shit
저인간 앞에서 뭐히는데 꼭 저런개 있네 ㄲ 비켜 강인
Blue shirt guy blocking the camera😡
The blue guy ruin the whole video. Thank you very much
하.. 아재 몸뚱아리 저서블스더업고
Rhu seung min does not understand, J pen is is not good. If Rhu teaches shakehand style to Korean players, only then Korea can be good in table tennis.
거 아저씨 좀 비키지. 되도 않는 질문 해대더니
This blue shirt guy, o my o my ,,,, horrible
하~ 중간에 아저씨좀 비켜주시지. 매너가 참