6.5 Grendel AMMO TEST
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With ammo availability & pricing being what is is for 6.5g I’ve been pulling FMJ’s from my Wolf ammo and replacing them with 123 gr ELD. Accuracy and feeding has been fine so far.
Hard to beat the 123g Hornady SST on deer. You’ll want to keep the impact velocity over 1,900 f/s so about 400 yards is where a guy can reasonably limit shots to.
Not a fan of the plastic ballistic tipped ammo. I prefer the federal fusion soft point over the hornady black. My experience with the black is dead deer but not many exit the body at 200 yards.
I'd blame the wolf opening on the barrel heating, so all of them are fine groupwise by my standards. Greetings from Bulgaria!
IF you reload try the Nosler 120 grain BT over a near max charge of CFE 223 powder. This combo works good for me. The Hornady stuff is hard to beat in factory ammo and shoots good in both of my guns. Great shooting and enjoy your Grendel. One bad thing about owning a Grendel is you will start shooting it more and more and your other rifles less and less.
Man, that Ruger sure likes the Hornady stuff. I was hoping to see the Wolf steel case shoot another group like the .8 group when sighting in. But even at 1.45, it's pretty good for cheap steel case ammo.
Hornady 123g SST shoots good in my AR upper, hard to find thou! Looking forward to this video
They perform really well on deer too
Same here. I have an ar-15 with an 18” barrel. Shoots the sst’s like a laser.
The wolf ammo used to be $6 a box before the pandemic. Those were the days.
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Fortunately, I stocked up a bit, but not the several thousands that I wish I had.
"Plandemic" the ammo prices and availability of ammo was just a part of the governments plan slowly take our guns. Step one make ammo expensive and hard to find so people run out of ammo and their guns are useless. Step to take guns that are useless because there's no ammo.
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Yeah, during the good old days, Grendel was usually only about a dollar higher than 5.56
Based on your awesome results it’s definitely time I build a 6.5 Grendel upper. I just ordered a barrel. The fact that a 6.5 Grendel upper will snap right into an AR lower like 300 Blackout is really sweet. All of these amazing calibers are murdering my credit card!
I think the Wolf is pretty decent for how much it costs. It just seems to be inconsistent in the calibers I’ve seen.
Had the same thoughts.
my dad and I sighted in his grendel wit wolf, we had a group that was touching at 100 yards. pretty decent. of course we got it at $.80 a round :( so I'd hope it would be decent
For the 1000 yard shots you need to find some of the federal GMM 130 gr. I have shot many deer with 6.5 Grendel and the SST do the best ... the ELD-m seem to not hold together as good.
Are you saying your hunting with Eld Match round ammo on deer? They are not designed to expand and are specifically for match shooting to give you the best accuracy from your rifle. The Hornady Precision Hunter ELD-X is a very accurate Hunting bullet and will perform very well on deer sized game.
@@lovethehuntOutdoors The Hornady 123gr. SST is an absolute Deer Killer out to 300yds +.
My gun loves the Black as well.
I think you need to shoot a "dirt round" when you change bullet types. First one is always in a different spot then the other 2 tighten up.
But in the most cases first and third were touching and the second was the opener, anyway they all look pretty acceptable for hunting I'd say
@@pliofcho4237 The Hornady ELD match the Hornady Black, and the Wolf Fmj are not deer hunting rounds as you may know, they do not expand to ethically kill any species of deer or antelope in the field. Coyote's and other vermin might be acceptable game to shoot.
Id love to see who tee take these hornaday rounds out to far ranges..im excited about that and super happy to see a actually good video of the 6 5 grendel veing shot at long range.
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The perfect fill in cartridge between a 308 and 5.56..
Love that round! GRENDEL!!
I love it!
@@WHOTEEWHO But seriously, why are there 2 versions of 6.5 ammo? Creedmore or Grendel, that is the question; but WHY is that the question?
@@AndrewKarpyszyn .223 length action vs .308 length action (or there abouts)
@@AndrewKarpyszyn Well there's also PRC, Swedish, and a host of others like the 260 Remington...
What about 243
6.5 Grendel looks like it would be amazing to shoot through an AR, good energy out to 500 yards and able to deal with larger game than 5.56 while still having low recoil and 1 MOA accuracy. But the bullets are a little expensive.
The ammopocalypse hit the grendel hard. It was easy to get into before
It's still relatively easy to find, just not in bulk. I have a Diamondback DB15 chambered in 6.5 grendel and I absolutely love it. Great rifle shooting a great round.
My daughter's loves Hornady 123 gr sst ammo. My rifle absolutely loves Alexander Arms 129 gr SST. It also likes the Alexander Arms 95 gr vmax. I'll have to check the new build after I get it finished.
It's probably been said already, but I think you need at 5 shots in your group to really find which ammo is better. If ammo supply wasn't such an issue I would suggest 3 groups of 5 rounds each to really see any difference in accuracy. It does look like your gun likes 123 gr rounds just fine though. The eld m looks like you can shoot it just like it is using max point blank ranging.
6.5mm is around .256 inches. Hmmmm. That's mighty close to .270 caliber. Darn close to .25-06. I have yet to fire a 6.5. Back in the '80's, the 6mm and 7mm was all the rage. In my opinion, all are good for hunting whitetails. Every hunter has their preference. And who are we to judge one another! Go with what you're comfortable with. Happy Trails!
Had to go back and rewatch this video. I love my 6.5 Grendel sweet little rifle. When I am able it will shoot super accurate groups.
I love my grendel (Frankenstein ar15) only thing I’ve hunted with for 2 years now great for deer and smaller hunters as well
Thank you for this video. Really nice comparison. In my “regular” hunting rifles, I find those SST’s are devastating on game. I will try them in my grendel AR for hog hunting.
I missed 3 deer back to back with the sst in my ballistic advantage 20" upper. Went back to the black 123 eld and have taken 7 deer the last 2 years. All neck shots. I've heard too many hunters say they loose deer going for heart because it pokes holes well. The last deer I took was at alittle over 300 yards. Neck shots drop them in their tracks. Love my 6.5 Grendel. You'll have to come up 39.81 moa at 1000 so hope you hit
I’ve never lost a deer or had one run over 30 yards with 123 grain sst
I would love to see five or ten shot groups to really show consistency. I've really wanted a Grendel for a while. I've got an American Predator in 243 and absolutely love it. Thanks for putting out great videos.
Love my Grendel upper AR
Grendel's are awesome. I use Federal Fusion for whitetail hunting. It's a thumper in a ar15 size platform
@@djl5634 The Fusion is a great bullet. Very hard to find at the moment.
Shot mine @ 900 yards with Hornady black 123gr eld-m and so impressed with their performance. My handloads using 123 eld-m out to 1120 yards. Amazing bullets.
Welcome to the dark side my friend. Everywhere I would have used a .308, I now use the Grendel. The 123 grain Hornady with a 20 to 24 inch barrel is almost vodo it's so good.
awesome video was looking at getting my 11yr old his first center fire as thinking 223 but I have to say this 6.5 Grendel might be a better option for hunting hogs
The Grendel is everything that the 223 wishes it was! 123 gr vs 55-70gr- for hunting deer sized game, the Grendel is much better!
With the cost of ammo the wolf is more then fine for practice, all the hunting loads are good to go for most hunting, nice rig and soft for the younglings.
That's a very nice rig there! I'd use the SST's for deer hunting. Shot a pronghorn in Colorado about 6 years ago with them in an AR I put together in 6.8 spc II. About 100 yards facing me. He dropped like a rock and I found the core of the bullet between the rear quarters.
my custom build 6.5 G AR loves the Hornady black
The best factory ammo I've tried in my match-barreled AR-15 was the Hornady ELD-M. My hand-loaded rounds with the Barnes 100 grain TTSX and Stabill powder are not only super accurate (sub 1/2 inch 5 rounds) but also work very well on critters. I had sub-par results with the Hornady SSTs and the Federal 130 grain GMM factory loads.
Good stuff. Thanks for posting! I'd argue that 115gr is probably the "sweet spot" for the 6.5 Grendel, but nobody makes a bullet in that weight!
Actually Barnes makes a 115 grain TTSX in loaded ammo and bullets for reloading. Of course finding them is pretty much impossible.
When you're rifle is consistently stacking 2 rounds and randomly throwing a third regardless of barrel temperature, across multiple different types of ammo, it's often an indication of a bedding issue which given the cheap tupperware stocks on a lot of factory rifles, isn't surprising. Regardless of whether they have a "chassis" or bedding blocks, or are pillar bedded, they simply aren't as rigid as a hardwood, laminate, or composite stock that has been properly bedded but these rifles were designed to be affordable, accurate, and lightweight hunting rifles, not benchrest or long range precision rifles. If they were to come with the aforementioned changes, it would likely double the price on them and for 99% of people using them, the performance increase would be inconsequential.
I really like the Federal Fusion in 6.5 Grendel. However, they are darn hard to find. I reload the Sierra Pro Hunter in 120 grain with great results on whitetails and hogs. Thanks for sharing Who Tee Who!!
I built an AR in the 6.5 Grendel, and I absolutely LOVE IT! It's a tack-driver!
I love it!
What a great little cartridge.
I believe you made it even more famous
I want a Grendel so bad I can taste it. I want the Ruger American Ranch in 6.5 Grendel with a 1x-8x/24 LPVO on it. I know that Predator model has a barrel that optimizes the round for long range shooting but I would only use the rifle to hunt deer or antelope within 400 yards maximum, more like 300 for mule deer. A 1x-8x LPVO will do that. The Predator has 6” more barrel and that’s increased range and power. But I’m not a sniper and I’m likely to be hunting from my wheelchair. The 16”barrel is easier in a chair, especially if it’s resting on a chair mounted pod of some sort.
I look forward to the tests!
Good video I just bought the same gun I'm going to try some Hornady 120 grain ELD match bullets. When I get all the reloading components in. Now it's time for a paper plate test 6.5 Grendel vs. 6.5 Creedmoor.
Love the new setup. But you ain't talking me into it this time 😂 That is such an underrated round. Great video WHOTEEWHO, can't wait to see that long range trip.
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Nice, to really know which is the best for your rifle it would be better to shoot 10+ rounds per group. Thanks for the video.
Great video. Considering a 6.5 for my next hunting rifle. I think the main difference will be with crosswind on the lighter rounds. Appreciate it
This little thing is fast and accurate so far, make a tool for the boys this coming season. Good shooting and gods speed to ya WTW YA DA MAN 🎥💯👍💪🏽
I love it!
Joel, if you can watch the premiere. Hope great Easter with family 👪, !!
@@randyadams03 catching it this morning soon as I got up. Get up before 4 every morning so it’s better to catch them in the AM for me. Hope you and yours are doing good, thanks for the kind words Randy. Good shooting to ya Sir 👍👍
Probably the best young kid caliber period and it’s a great round for adults as well. It lays whitetails down!!
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As good as you think the Grendel is it's even better in an AR. It's looks like your rifle uses AR mags. I've had great luck with Elander mags myself. The 24 round mags have been reliable.
Yessir. You can shoot very respectable distances with a AR pistols in 6.5 grendel as well. Faxon has a great 12” gunner barrel.
@@Cincinnatis Yep. I built my first grendel off of that Faxon 12". The family has grown a bit since then (wink)
Hornaday black and wolf is all i can fid find currently...alot of companies make factory loads for the grendel but no others are in stock..id like to see federal put out its 90grain varmint rounds again..
Just killed a 100lb white tail doe with Horandy Custom SST, definitely gets the job done.
you must also take in consideration that those two wolf groups from the previous video actuallyform quite a big group if you consider your point of aim.
I actually think you were very lucky getting two small groups, because I would rather consider that a 2" 6 shot group
That light going out gave your video a nice ambience, im still waiting for that 30 carbine clay block shoot
My 12 and 16" both love the ELD-m but won't shoot the sst's less than about 1.5-2 inches. That's what I get from Wolf (or actually, I get a little better from Wolf). I have the Barnes and will be testing it out in the 16 and 20" for hunting season.
I've never found the SST to be very accurate in any caliber I've tried it in.
@@bigjimmy6690 I've tried it in the Grendel and 6.5 Creed more with less than amazing results. I have a 20" Aero precision build in grendel that I'll also test the sst's on, but I'm not holding my breath.
Shot a big 9 point at 40 yards three years ago with Hornady Black. Bullet blew to pieces inside the deer. Now I use Federal Fusion in 6.5 and .308 and love them.
I love the Fusion as well, always perfect performance. I also use the Nosler Long Range, perfect in Grendel with lower starting velocities.
Even better suppressed. Love this caliber.
I love this Ruger.... mine is very accurate!
I hate the magazine, though!
Too bad they don't have smaller magazine.... flush fitting, and easy to carry.
Who needs more than 4 or 5 rounds? I know I dont...
The big Mag makes the rifle a lot harder to carry in the woods.
The Grendel is powerful enough to kill a deer with one shot.
this is my fave type of vid, figuring out what works for each rifle
the sst have a slightly higher BC over the others. very minor difference compared to the ELD. which I think is cool for hunting bullets. It's pretty much all I load but have shot plenty of the others. have had success with the hornady 120gr also. the wolf likes shorter barrels judging from my 2 rifles. The other cool thing is it'll have almost the same trajectory as 308 so you can use the same dope and be in a few inches out yonder. the heavy 223 75gr-79gr should also share that trajectory but I haven't proven that for myself but Primary Arms says it does.
Had two Grendel's. AR and Howa 1500 mini. The AR shot the best. .65 with Sierra's 107. The Howa shot 3" groups.
Just picked up 2 boxes of 6.5 Grendel Hornady Black ELD at the Franklin, TN academy sports. Grateful it was in stock, not crazy about it being $29.99 a box. Grendel AR15 is a blast to shoot though. My 20 inch BCA upper runs great. Thanks for your videos.
you flung the wolf last after the barrel was hot. might have something to do with the group opening up.
Big fan of the 6.5 Grendel. Mine is on an AR platform with a 20" barrel. Likes the 123's and shoot lights out. I have taken deer and hogs with mine. It performs awesome.
I called the Hornady Black....that stuff is amazing....I use it in all my hunting rifles....and never fails me. Hurts the wallet a bit...but when trying to kill a deer or bear.....I only want to take 1 sure shot.
Before you start shooting, ill bet that the black with the eld will come out on top. Anytime i walk into a shop that has it on the shelf, i buy it. My ar will shoot sub 1/2” groups at 100 all day long. And it performs well for hunting. That stuff is awesome.
I hope Ruger will offer that rifle in 6mm ARC. 🤞🤞🤞🤞
I bought this exact rifle but got a lemon. Mine wouldn't shoot under 1.5" with anything even after using all the tricks like barrel lapping, bedding work, trigger job. Before lapping 2" was the best group with an average 3". Best group of 1.5" after lapping . Took my gunsmiths advice and sold it. Hated to see it shoot so poorly because I liked the rifle & really wanted it to be a shooter
Man you need to reload.
Honestly I have had the best results on deer with the 120 gr speer gold dot. it doesn't have as high of a B.C. as the SST but I have not recovered a bullet from a deer. And it seems to kill deer really good. I've killed deer with the 123 SST,120 pro hunter ,120 gold dot. And the factory 120 gr hpbt ppu . The gold dot is my pick, and believe it or not the 120 hpbt ppu slays deer, I know people think it's a bunk bullet But it works pretty well.
Welcome to the club.
Great shots! Might have to choose this rifle if I can find it. And the ammo! Great video!
Not bad at all. Good deer round within range limits.
I am soo glad I loaded up on Hornady’s SST’s and Black back in 2019, long before the Rona flu hit!
The prices today for them are just stupid mad. I absolutely love the Grendel! I hunt with more often then not, than my .308. Don’t get me wrong, .308 is great, but the weight savings for hunting is incredible. The Grendel is awesome round for deer and hogs both short and long range. Also, as a round to use for survival purposes/WROL/SHTF situations like that, I don’t know why it hasn’t taken over the .223 & .300 BO. It’s just a superior round ballistically. With the exception of mule dear and big game, this is just such a great all around hunting & survival rifle round!
Excited for this. I did a similar video with my ruger american 6.5 grendel as well and curious to see if the groups are similar. Also did one with my howa mini action 1500 6.5 grendel. That's a fun rifle as well
Before the ammo shortage i had a hard time finding grendal ammo around here in western new york. During the shortage and now i found quite a bit if that makes any sense🤔🤣.
Between me and my brothers we have 3 16 inch Grendel AR 15. none of them like to heavier bullets. They tend to like 110 and lighter lead or light copper.
Don’t think I’ll ever get either of these cartridges but I do love the Creedmore for mid range big game! Thanks @Who Tee Who Great Content!
The wolf bullet mic out at .261 and 6.5 is .264, love the Grendel round and have harvest many deer with it.
That rifle will flat out shoot good job great video
Thank you for making this video about the 6.5 Grendel I know it’s probably been up here for a minute but you need to clamp that device down better and did you warm up the barrel first with a couple of rounds before you start shooting or did you do a cold barrel shot?
WhoTWho this is a Great Video on the 6.5 Grendel and some nice ammo. I wish you would have mentioned the Hornady Black, the Eld match rounds and the Wolf steel Case FMJ are Not for Deer hunting as they do not expand upon impact as you know. They are simply for target shooting and killing coyotes, possums, raccoon, and other vermin if needed.
Take a bowl. Put in 3 of each, let someone else, blinded pick 5 cartridges and shoot a good string and se what happens at 100 yards, are a mix good enough for a hunt at max 100 yards. Just what could happen when new ammo could not be found and You only have some in the emergency box?
i have a howa grendel and it clover leafs on the 123 hornady black ammo
I had nothing but great accuracy with the Wolfe ammo. Serbian made... Like Privi Partisan ammo.
Same plant.....
Just what we wanted to see :). Just need an expansion vid, and the long range vid you mentioned and we'll be right :)
Sweet set up hope u had a good Easter buddy.
Sure did
@@WHOTEEWHO good happy to happy to hear it
I bought 500 of the Wolf delivered for under 130$ when I first got my Grendel upper. They grouped fine for what they are.
In a 24" upper, those 123 SST shoot cloverleaf groups for me.
On my 1915 Swede I used 90 gr. Nosler at accuracy load , any more powder went wild . I got 3 inch exits close range .
I love the ruger Americans. I have the ranch models in 556,350l,450bm and took a deer last year with my 6.5 gr. My only problem with the ruger rifles is picking which one to hunt with hahah.
love my Grendel, shoot it more than any caliber right now and have tried all those factory loads, but never good results, but mine loves handloads! Easy under .5" MOA with 5 shots @ 100yrds using 95g & 130g AMAX, also like 123 & 108 Lapua
Can't beat the SST bullets! The barns are great but not awesome lol. Now you need a 6mm arc. Mine will be done in 2 weeks I hope.
Adam take your time and Squeeze the trigger remember this Brass. Breath relax aim squeeze softly. Works for thousands of Marines can't to to far off.
Performance wise on deer, SST are amazing but so are barnes vortex.
After 4 months or longer of waiting here in Arkansas my local gun shop finally got som Hornady Black eld math ballistic tip 123 gr . I bought my rifle and asked if they had any Ammo they said no , so i said no worry's ill find some , Boy i had no idea how hard it was going to be to find .
Try shooting a fouling shot each ammo maybe put up an extra plate and see how the different rounds even a foiling shot group.
Don't be scared of the Barnes... There like a lightning bolt when they hit.. I love them and have taken deer elk and moose with then multiple times
problem with Wolf is inconsistent factory quality control...good enough for eastern bloc military...good enough for 50 meter self defense...
Great video WTW and Congrats on the 400K!!!
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Nice ear protectors. Got my Axils last week. Went with two pairs. Better buy.... I have my best luck with 123gr. bullets in my grendels, also.
The only reason I'm considering this boolot is because I can buy an upper and bcg for my AR15 and have the best of both worlds in my favorite rifle setup.
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I've only shot Hornady. H335 powder was the best powder for my Grendels.... the 123gr. SST bullet shot very well.
love my 6.5 grendrl.. it's an 18"heavy fluted barrel ar15. the only thing I dont like is how much ammo costs for it(if you can even find it)!!!
I would like to see how it does at 300 400 and 500 yds because those are more of a hunting range for most of us westerns
Can't decide if I want the Grendel or a 6mm ARC. I know that damn outro song has been stuck in my head lately.
6mm ARC is primarily for target and light game. Grendel works for target and medium game.
One nice thing about your videos is that you are always more or less sighted... some vids needs the camera shifted to see the impact👍🏻
I like the looks of that cartridge it looks like a great whitetail and mule deer round
You move your gun when you reload or move your bolt to rechamber
The first round after an ammo change may shoot at a different location. Almost seems as though it needs "seasoned" so to speak.
I think reloads of between 127 to 129 grain boo-lots @ 2460 to 2500 ft per sec. Would be the best in hpbt.
That said, I'm also hearing really good things about 6.5 x 30/30 ackley improved.