In The Mind Of A Villain - The Riddler/Edward Nashton from "The Batman"

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  • @ntkmw8058
    @ntkmw8058 2 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Riddler is a good example of “a kid who isn’t embraced by his village will burn it down to feel it’s warmth

    • @jackphillips3354
      @jackphillips3354 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wow! That’s deep. You’re pretty smart.👍🏻👍🏻

    • @jackphillips3354
      @jackphillips3354 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And so true too. It’s examples such as Edward Nashton’s that kinda make you want to root for them a little. Some are like Walter White’s antipodes.

  • @AH-is5yg
    @AH-is5yg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    This new version of the Riddler is great. His flaw was that he didn't know Bruce very well. His jealous blinded him.

    • @damianstarks3338
      @damianstarks3338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I like this version of the riddler too.

    • @foxmccloud7055
      @foxmccloud7055 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'll take this version of "The Riddler" over Jim Carrey's version on "Batman Forever" any day.

    • @AH-is5yg
      @AH-is5yg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@foxmccloud7055 yeah. He's more dangerous and realistic

  • @CaioH.
    @CaioH. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Sometimes you can feel bad for him. Growing up without parents and family, in addition to being a nobody with people bullying him and consequently creating problems and not helping him in the orphanage. He suffered the equivalent of Joaquin Phoenix's Joker.

  • @ajdoyle8869
    @ajdoyle8869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Great video you earned a sub!
    Alot of people are saying that the whole third act when Riddler floods Gotham is out of place and makes no sense but I dont think so because I have a theory on why he flooded the city
    My theory is that perhaps Riddler came to the belief that the corruption in the city is too much and he couldn't take them all out one at a time so he decided to wash away all of the corruption as it would be easier and quicker,and as for why he killed innocents well I guess his mental illness just overtook him to the point where he doesnt care

    • @mrenygma181
      @mrenygma181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Absolutely correct, and it hurts how many viewers lacked the comprehension of this. Nashton believed Gotham *itself* failed and hurt him. He sees the whole of Gotham as a toxic, corrupted organism and each and every living being in it merely diseased cells. His flood was, in his eyes, a needed cleansing by fire (or rather, water). Much like how chemotherapy doesn't discriminate between cancer and healthy cells. He wants the entire organism to drown in the terror and hopelessness that flooded his childhood.

    • @UnrealNeoBat
      @UnrealNeoBat ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah too many folks believe it's easy to conquer their demons but it's not.

    • @jackphillips3354
      @jackphillips3354 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I myself would offer that the Mayor, the DA, the Commissioner, the Police, and the Mob actually deserved what the Riddler did to them. And no, not for revenge, and I’m not saying anything justifies being a sadistic serial killer and domestic terrorist either. I’m just trying to say no reform could’ve been made as long as they were still in circulation. They had the Renewal Act, they had an iron clad, mutuality beneficial treaty between the system and the underworld, they had every economic cash flow in the whole city, and every single citizen, both law abiding and violent offendering, strategically right where they wanted them. The Batman could only break up a turf fight, stop an assault, or save a kid here and there, and that idealistic 20something year old mayoral candidate Bella Real could only do much her better ideas than the mayor Don Mitchell that was winning over her voters. Oh, sure. What she said in her speeches sounded a lot better than the same tired half hearted droll Don said. But it’s like the Riddler said in his post The Batman found on his last post on his message board in his apartment titled “A REAL CHANGE”. He’d heard every political and social movement everyone behind the stand proclaimed that always ended with nothing happening, even they were sincere, and both his, and his fellow residents in the whole city, only had their living conditions and personal dignities deteriorated progressively each time they did.The Riddler’s only fault working against the law, and by extension, the people he was supposedly championing, and just dispensing what HE deemed was the justice they deserved all on his own with no consent. And as for the flood? Well, maybe the new mayor was for real, and might’ve made some degree of progress, but did you see her trying to get her audiences attention during the flooding taking progress right before one of the Riddler’s followers popped her in the arm. None of them cared, they were all too busy carrying their children trying to find higher ground because that stadium they were in was already overcrowded. THEN she got shot, THEN the Batman climbed the rafters and (with the help of Catwoman and Commissioner Gordon, of course) saved her and them by stopping the Riddler’s Followers, and THEN the National Guard answered their distress call and sent help on their way. If not for the Riddler’s “Real Change”, how much positive development would she, Batman, and Gordon have caused? Yeah, there were innocents along with the Irredeemables in the streets at the time, and not all the Big Bads “got cleansed”. You could see the Penguin safe in his office or penthouse. But the majority of the innocents were all rescued safe and sound, with Batman’s, Gordon’s, and the emergency aid’s help, and this drew them closer to the theirs and Bella Real’s support, and further away from the criminal underworld’s influence. Like Bruce Wayne’s closing narration, there were still a lot of criminals left alive looting buildings and people, and most of people’s homes were inhospitable for the time being. But think of how much organized crime has dwindled because of all the better half working together! Edward Nashton, however brilliant, was a criminal, and a literal psychopath, but he was successful. Everything he set out to accomplish worked! Just not the way he’d hoped. But then again, does anybody’s plans ever go exactly the way they planned them to? He just didn’t get Batman’s approval, that’s all.

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks3338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This version of the riddler is both creepy and terrifying at the same time.

    • @inthemindofavillain
      @inthemindofavillain  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And yet, pitiable, given the corruption in Gotham.

    • @damianstarks3338
      @damianstarks3338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@inthemindofavillain yes he is definitely a character you pity too.

  • @tysondennis1016
    @tysondennis1016 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This reinvention of the Riddler was amazing.

  • @anonbattler
    @anonbattler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    One of the great things about Batman stories, as compared to that of other superheroes, is that Bruce goes against 'evil monsters' that people actually have to worry about in real life.

    • @LedZedd
      @LedZedd ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Like Solomon Grundy

  • @theantone7476
    @theantone7476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    You got yourself a new subscriber. I love this version of Riddler a lot and consider him to be the best out of the others we've seen, although the version of Riddler in Gotham is also good. This Riddler actually won in the end despite the flood setback. I would love for you to do a video on Joan Ferguson from the Australian hit TV series Wentworth set in a Women's prison with gripping, complex, and dark stories. Joan starts off as a Governor running the prison before finding herself as a prisoner in her own prison but that doesn't stop her from the things she carries out. Very intelligent, ruthless, manipulative, and also very sympathetic and complex due to extreme childhood trauma. She arrives in season 2 and stays to the very end.

    • @inthemindofavillain
      @inthemindofavillain  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks! I love this iteration of the Riddler too, works perfectly in the theme Matt Reeves was going for.
      I haven’t seen Wentworth before but I’ll check it out!

  • @robertmason837
    @robertmason837 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought it was interesting seeing Batman confront someone he inadvertently inspired, and how he learned about how his family were not who he thought they’d were before.

  • @luongmaihunggia
    @luongmaihunggia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You offer a very good explanation on a lot of people's criticism with the third act: How the Riddler acts out of character.

  • @someweirdo4577
    @someweirdo4577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I just found this channel, and I thought there was at least going to be like 100,000 views, I'm shocked to see how little there actually is. This is very good though, I subscrived!

  • @Neonrena
    @Neonrena 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Underrated channel. Great analysis.

  • @NightmareScarecrow
    @NightmareScarecrow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t know what Edward was even thinking when he thought Batman was on his side. Most heroes, like Batman, wouldn’t be very accepting if someone came over to them and said: “Hey Batman, I have this group of people that kill other people of this city because they rejected me! Wouldn’t you like to join us?!”

  • @gameanalyst6126
    @gameanalyst6126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just watched the batman , after finishing the movie I felt the story was pretty average in comparison to the other batman movies , while really liked the cinematography , music and action sequence . After watching your video , the way you unwrapped the story in simplified way , now I am feeling good about the movie . Thank you so much .

  • @bumblebeejasper
    @bumblebeejasper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this video is so well done !! i definitely expected it to have more likes and views ! this is great and you've earned yourself a new subscriber :]

  • @JuliusSeizureOfficial
    @JuliusSeizureOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This riddler was excellent. He kept up with proving his intellect over batman by taunting him with riddles and arguably knew about the extent of the corruption around the renewal fund. What he lacked was the narcissism and bloated egotism, which was replaced with a sense of "misguided" righteousness and anyone who didn't believe him was beneathe him. Being an orphan and growing up in the ophanage gave him the inferiority complex and resentment along with knowledge of the corruption drove him to taunt those he saw as beneath him. This riddler was far more sadistic than other versions wide of the mark. Arguably the riddlers plan succeeded, forcing Bruce to "question" his old man's involvement.

  • @jackphillips3354
    @jackphillips3354 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3:26 I’ll just say it, he’s got my support.❤️‍🔥✊🏻

  • @transformers_quotes5738
    @transformers_quotes5738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video! absolutely love this take on the Riddler

    • @inthemindofavillain
      @inthemindofavillain  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Can’t wait to see where the next instalment goes.

  • @samfforde5120
    @samfforde5120 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't actually watched The Batman 2022 yet, but I have researched it, and at the moment I think this is a good observation.

  • @corbinmcnabb
    @corbinmcnabb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    On of the benefits of working within the system, in spite of deficiencies in the system, it sets parameters. Reduces the chance of getting the wrong person. Doesn't eliminate the chance of an innocent being punished, but reduces.
    Incidentally, this is a point for Batman, Superman, Spiderman, etc as well.

  • @Rishi_749
    @Rishi_749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I support the Riddler if I were in Riddler's place I would do the same. The only thing I disagree with the Riddler is that he planned to drown the city destroying millions of lives which I won't accept but other than that I would probably be like the Riddler.

    • @alexmoon478
      @alexmoon478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He almost killed Alfred, his vendetta wasn't against corruption but people with status and better upbringing then him. Since the world wasn't fair to him he felt that he should do what it takes to make it fair on his own terms.

  • @godessnerd
    @godessnerd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude seriously good stuff! You just got yourself a new subscriber!

  • @professorboltzmann5709
    @professorboltzmann5709 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need episodes for Dark Knight's Bane and Joker. Also, incredible list of villains: Hans Landa, Voldemort, Agent Smith, Norman Bates, Patrick Bateman, Hannibal Lector, Thanos, Amon Goeth, Max Cady, Otto Octavius, and Alex Delarge.

  • @louisgigot4547
    @louisgigot4547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!

  • @nicksmyth4050
    @nicksmyth4050 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My theory is that Riddler always had some mental problems and an inner darkness, but like Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker and more importantly the Riddler in the comics, his childhood abuse just stamped out whatever goodness he could have had

  • @StrikerFX47
    @StrikerFX47 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Riddler may be a psychopathic murder but had an awful orphan up bringing. False promises and corrupt politicians only made it worse. His character was intriguing and had a great costume. I sympathize and even relate to him a little bit.

    • @jackphillips3354
      @jackphillips3354 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      THANK YOU

    • @jackphillips3354
      @jackphillips3354 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Did your parents subject you to physical and mental abuse too?

  • @mookachalupa
    @mookachalupa ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video

  • @cliffwoodbury5319
    @cliffwoodbury5319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    A CHANNEL THAT DEALS WITH VILLIANS - FINALLY!!

    • @j.1759
      @j.1759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you're into channels that focuses on villains, here's a great one th-cam.com/users/TheVileEye

  • @PhantomBones101
    @PhantomBones101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel is a perfect companion piece to The Vile Eye. Great job.

  • @stephenhounsell7257
    @stephenhounsell7257 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I first saw this film I thought the Riddler’s first victim was officer John Blake.

  • @Hun.1236
    @Hun.1236 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do President Coin from hunger games

  • @VainGuardian
    @VainGuardian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    he's my little poor meow meow

  • @paintkim9211
    @paintkim9211 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Riddler looks like The Screenslaver from Incredibles 2 and Mysterio from Spider Man : Far From Home

  • @SandmanOCA
    @SandmanOCA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video💯🔥

  • @castrodan4983
    @castrodan4983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Scarecrow/Jonathon Crane

  • @brandeno919
    @brandeno919 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lowkey I understood riddlers anger in this movie…rough childhoods and people not giving a damn for so long breaks a person

  • @foxmccloud7055
    @foxmccloud7055 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there anyone that Batman hasn't ticked off and ended up on Batman's Rogues Gallery?

  • @definitelynottheriddler
    @definitelynottheriddler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    call me crazy, but his apartment was at like the top floor of that building, or at least high af. I think he would've been fine without getting himself incarcerated.

  • @LuxersMultiverse2090
    @LuxersMultiverse2090 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In Edward's mind , he is Captain America in world war 1 .

  • @thejoker0123
    @thejoker0123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    please cover Vecna/Henry Creal/#1 from Stranger Things

  • @SeanerCullen
    @SeanerCullen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your underated! New sub!

  • @rigmaroul
    @rigmaroul 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    YOO GREAT VIDEO :D

  • @urdadshusband781
    @urdadshusband781 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Liked the video overall but it's funny when you point out a few examples of innocent people the riddler targeted when his whole plan was to eventuate in the entire city being flooded, which would doubtlessly kill dozens or hundreds of innocent people

  • @xevozmaster360
    @xevozmaster360 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The Scarecrow

  • @spawnofragnarok9267
    @spawnofragnarok9267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ln the mind of a villain make a video on fire Ward ozai from Avatar The last Airbender please 🥺 ?

  • @JYDY-if5rf
    @JYDY-if5rf ปีที่แล้ว

    Riddle me this riddle me that

  • @317GUY
    @317GUY ปีที่แล้ว

    Just because you’re a vigilante doesn’t mean you’re a hero

  • @castrodan4983
    @castrodan4983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How I see Robin Williams's Riddler could've been like that had he played Riddler instead of Jim Carrey

  • @Theunderpriviledged2004
    @Theunderpriviledged2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have potential.It is shamefull that you dont have many subs.

  • @jackphillips3354
    @jackphillips3354 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    7:57 🙄 “one could postulate”.

  • @jackphillips3354
    @jackphillips3354 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I myself would offer that the Mayor, the DA, the Commissioner, the Police, and the Mob actually deserved what the Riddler did to them. And no, not for revenge, and I’m not saying anything justifies being a sadistic serial killer and domestic terrorist either. I’m just trying to say no reform could’ve been made as long as they were still in circulation. They had the Renewal Act, they had an iron clad, mutuality beneficial treaty between the system and the underworld, they had every economic cash flow in the whole city, and every single citizen, both law abiding and violent offendering, strategically right where they wanted them. The Batman could only break up a turf fight, stop an assault, or save a kid here and there, and that idealistic 20something year old mayoral candidate Bella Real could only do much her better ideas than the mayor Don Mitchell that was winning over her voters. Oh, sure. What she said in her speeches sounded a lot better than the same tired half hearted droll Don said. But it’s like the Riddler said in his post The Batman found on his last post on his message board in his apartment titled “A REAL CHANGE”. He’d heard every political and social movement everyone behind the stand proclaimed that always ended with nothing happening, even they were sincere, and both his, and his fellow residents in the whole city, only had their living conditions and personal dignities deteriorated progressively each time they did.The Riddler’s only fault working against the law, and by extension, the people he was supposedly championing, and just dispensing what HE deemed was the justice they deserved all on his own with no consent. And as for the flood? Well, maybe the new mayor was for real, and might’ve made some degree of progress, but did you see her trying to get her audiences attention during the flooding taking progress right before one of the Riddler’s followers popped her in the arm. None of them cared, they were all too busy carrying their children trying to find higher ground because that stadium they were in was already overcrowded. THEN she got shot, THEN the Batman climbed the rafters and (with the help of Catwoman and Commissioner Gordon, of course) saved her and them by stopping the Riddler’s Followers, and THEN the National Guard answered their distress call and sent help on their way. If not for the Riddler’s “Real Change”, how much positive development would she, Batman, and Gordon have caused? Yeah, there were innocents along with the Irredeemables in the streets at the time, and not all the Big Bads “got cleansed”. You could see the Penguin safe in his office or penthouse. But the majority of the innocents were all rescued safe and sound, with Batman’s, Gordon’s, and the emergency aid’s help, and this drew them closer to the theirs and Bella Real’s support, and further away from the criminal underworld’s influence. Like Bruce Wayne’s closing narration, there were still a lot of criminals left alive looting buildings and people, and most of people’s homes were inhospitable for the time being. But think of how much organized crime has dwindled because of all the better half working together! Edward Nashton, however brilliant, was a criminal, and a literal psychopath, but he was successful. Everything he set out to accomplish worked! Just not the way he’d hoped. But then again, does anybody’s plans ever go exactly the way they planned them to? He just didn’t get Batman’s approval, that’s all.

  • @rickywilcoxson6933
    @rickywilcoxson6933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sephiroth please

  • @072kratos
    @072kratos ปีที่แล้ว

    I think edward suspected bruce is batman

  • @milosbatmanvideos
    @milosbatmanvideos ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbh I'm kind simillar to the Riddler

  • @8yerbrain
    @8yerbrain 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Riddler was the good guy.

  • @skeletorsnightmares9325
    @skeletorsnightmares9325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    do jack Nicholson joker from batman 1989 next

  • @isok5221
    @isok5221 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am going to tell on twitch my plan to ruin this city, I am the smartest

  • @AmelityshTV
    @AmelityshTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still think that he's not the best Riddler. He's a great villain and a great interpretation, but the Riddler is eccentric and loves putting on a show, even to his own detriment. This Riddler just didn't do it for some of us

    • @inthemindofavillain
      @inthemindofavillain  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s fair, it was a wide deviation from the usual traits.

    • @goose1886
      @goose1886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He sorta did out on a show, with his lil Twitch streams, but he did lack the eccentric personality. I'm hoping, if The Batman 2 is greenlit, that personality will come through with The Joker giving him more self-confidence. This one seemed more like an origin story

    • @geordiemc4571
      @geordiemc4571 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      how did he lack the eccentric personality? did you notice the twisted humored things he was saying and the puzzles he was leaving? thumb drive? "don't lose your head mr colsen" its not like paul danos riddler lacked riddlers twisted eccentric personality you have just seemed to forget about it

    • @yannbouvier1096
      @yannbouvier1096 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@geordiemc4571 Thank you ! I just feel like people can only read on surface and don't see common points between two adaptation of the same character if they are not copy paste.

  • @aleiferthenorthman7935
    @aleiferthenorthman7935 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    honestly, if it wasn't for our love for batman we'd be cheering the villains from joker to bane to the riddler. joker anhiliated the mob and eliminated them, bane, like the riddler represent every human that is not fed will a silver spoon. they all want to get rid of the corrupt and let the poeple rule. Joker won 100% right and won, he proved his point and more, he did what batman's job. Batman attacks petty criminals while the Joker destroyed the root of all the problems, the mob and the DA, bane was more 'socialist' but the revolution has many parallels with the french revolution, when you him knitting that's exactly taken from the 'kangoroo' trials and a woman would knit the name of each one who got beheaded. if batman was alive he would be elon musk, but more dangerous lol he doesn't see the big picture he just attacks petty criminals while the joker literally erased the mob, the chinese connection, the district attorney, and all the corrupt people running Gotham. I think if I were alive i would fight with the Joker til every 1 percenter is erased including batman

  • @Edwardnashton
    @Edwardnashton ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think hes silly and attractive and he was simply in a bad mood

    • @Xyzqvvo
      @Xyzqvvo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      for real

  • @thadmeboy1129
    @thadmeboy1129 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Michael reeves

  • @paulchristie8452
    @paulchristie8452 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A lame idea for a villain analysis could be Professor Gerald Lambeau from Good Will Hunting.

  • @lowbird7947
    @lowbird7947 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video doesn't even mention his incel army

  • @kimmolaine8069
    @kimmolaine8069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The new Riddler was an incel.

  • @bossisin2510
    @bossisin2510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awful villain. Awful characterization.

  • @emperorsean1
    @emperorsean1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kindof proves that Matt Reeves doesn't know much about the riddler if he calls him edward nashtin. His name is Edward NIGMA in the comics. Great movie but proof that matt Reeves has never read a dc comic.

    • @inthemindofavillain
      @inthemindofavillain  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I didn’t expect that too actually. I initially thought Nashton might be a cover name but they never went there.

    • @barrydelight
      @barrydelight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He also called Edward Nashton in some comics.

    • @theshape4309
      @theshape4309 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      it's because in the comics his birth name was nashton, and he changed it to nygma later on. this movie is the origins of the riddler, so he is starting off and hasn't changed it yet

    • @alexmoon478
      @alexmoon478 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theshape4309 Good point.