Ullrich ataca a Pantani TdF 1998 etapa 16
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- El campeón alemán fue víctima de una pájara que le hizo perder el liderato de la carrera en favor de Marco Pantani el día anterior.
No conforme con la segunda posición atacó el la Madelein donde solo "Il Elefantino" pudo seguirlo hasta la linea de meta donde Ullrich alzó los brazos como vencedor de la etapa. - กีฬา
![Jan Ullrich ► TdF 2003 ► Stage 12 ► Cap' Découverte (Zeitfahren) [18.07.2003]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/6Ign-iDNFTQ/mqdefault.jpg)
True legends of cycling Ulrich & Pantani I was only 23 when the 98 tour came to Ireland & there was some buzz about the place..hard to imagine Pantani is no longer with us guess u never know what mental anguish someone is going through behind closed doors,Rest in peace Marco you'll never b forgotten..
Cycling treats its athletes like shit. No help for mental illness at all
@@FLMKane Mental illness wasn’t as talked about then as well
@@xXcangjieXx yeah that's true.
Pantani is still my favorite. Most entertaining guy ever
Dope or not, those were awesome cycling times
Totally agree good racing back then.😁
Dope and it changes everything. Not that great.
@@miniorek if you think Pogacar and the others are clean I've got news for you. Maybe nowadays testing is better so they get away with less, but all the top rider still use as many PEDs as they can get away with.
Just like any other large enough professional sport
@@Goriaas show me a proof.
Nothing has changed you fools!
"what Marco did today was bad for me but extraordinary for cycling" Jan Ullrich said at the end of the legendary galibier stage of the tour 98. When he literally saved a tour that risked not even arriving in Paris due to continuous doping scandals during that edition. Jean Marie LeBlanc thanked him no longer inviting him from 2001 onwards.
Here it is. This can be enough to tell what Marco's life was. The most exciting sportsman I've ever seen. one too special to feel good in this world.
13:46 Pantani flicks his elbow for Ullrich to pull through and then Jan swings wide and they drag race to the line side by side. That is old school macho racing right there. No track tactics, true mano a mano duel.
I remember i was 15 year old when i whatched marco Pantani during giro and tour..in my eyes was a spectacular sport cycling..the attack of Pantani on the climb..i will never forget the big emotions that il pirata gives to an entire nation.. i never feels the same emotions whatching cycling..now it's very boring sport without heart.. Pantani we will never forget you.. thanks for the good memories and emotions that you given us..🇮🇹
I hear you, I am of the same age, was watching the same race back then, just from Germany (with big hopes).
Ullrich was full out there, you can tell he suffered, look at his face, he left nothing there, if you follow him closely you can see he didn't quit for a moment even when Aldag gave him help. That was a brave ride that day because Pantani was just too good at climbing so Ullrich just killed himself all the way up the Madeleine. Great classic riders Pantani and Ullrich, remember it like it was yesterday.
Yes that was the era...real hard men!
Yes that was the era...real hard men!
According to a teammate Pantani stated Ulrich's attack pushed him to his absolute limit.
Oh yeah nahuj!!!
Legends and my youth revisited. Watch very carefully at 13:45, clearly. Pantani doesn't contest the win but he does it incredibly well (maybe that's why he was so pissed with LA on Ventoux) At 13:45 I think you see he flicks the right elbow twice, very subtly but basically saying "come by now Jan". Pure pro.
I saw the arm flick, but why would he give up the chance of a win?
@@Wolfgangernst1999 Because he's in yellow. It's an old-school thing that leaders of the tour try not to take stage wins.
@@petef15 Oh interesting, I didn't know that! I thought they would fight for every bonus second
@@petef15 It's not so much about being in yellow. It's that Ulrich did all the work on the climb. If Pantani had been the aggressor breaking the wind he wouldn't have given up the win, even if we were in yellow.
The stabilized camera, just amazing work there!
Eine Legende. Ehrgeiz und Moral - nach dieser Niederlage am Vortag.
Gotta say...Ullrich absolutely smashed this climb from the foot like a rea man. Audacity and pure power. Won't see this in 2020.... And beyond.
Yes but he likely took a massive blood transfusion given the previous day's performance!
EPO
@@Bluesman2509 Yes but everyone was on juice, so still his performance was higher. Also, those athletes are way better without doping than any serious amateur with doping you can rest assured about this.
@@Augenhose yes true most amateurs limit is 4.5-4.9 wkg I suppose
@@Augenhose "those athletes are way better without doping than any serious amateur with doping"
not so sure about that. look at bodybuilding to see what drugs can do; you could train hard every day for 20 years and you would loose to a juiced amateur training for 3 years
Rest in peace Marco Pantani he was one of the best climbers of all time and very exciting to watch
The soundtrack is perfect, amazing sound.
Similar soundtrack was in the 89’s Tour video when Greg LeMond and Laurent Fignon dueling uphill too.
Two Great Champions battling!!!
No he vuelto a ver una subida como esta. ¡Eran los tiempos de la barra libre! De todos modos, Ullrich ha sido grande
La locomotora alemana, que poderío y que clase. Nunca habrá otro como tú Jan!
My 2 favorite riders easily.
Pantani gli ha fatta vincere la tappa. Grandissima sportività ! Unico !
si certo come no
@@osbor_rato5109 chiedete a jalabert. se Pantani era furbo non sarebbe andato a vincere in quel modo a Oropa, umiliando gli avversari. poi non alzò le mani perchè non sapeva se c'erano altri corridori davanti..... ha fatto l'innocente. va beh intanto se ha perso quel giro 99 un motivo c'è. direi che l'ha fatta fuori dal vaso
@@napomania incredibile il modo in cui molti italiani gettano mer** sui loro sportivi di punta appena inciampano. Allo stesso tempo però sono gli stessi italiani che hanno la mafia sotto casa e la reputano la normalità.
Golden days of the "Tour de France". Something like this will never come back. Great, great memories.
Absolutely correct, it was historically unique in the TDF.
Aldag is a real Hero! Ullrich is the better driver - but Aldag is the best teammate!
Thank you for this, Mr Aldag. ;)
Unforgettable, that Tour!
Jans big gear Hurts even by watching
the music fits perfectly, this should be the new way of broadcasting TDF
I am Italian and I know Pantani very well by listening to his interviews and those of his father and mother, I summarize his story in a nutshell. He was a boy who was looking for the most extreme climbs to test himself since he was 14/15 years old, he became a professional cyclist and he only met serious injuries up to 97, in 98 his first year without any unexpected has won lap and thunder then they unjustly stopped him at the turn of the 99 because the Neapolitan mafia had received a lot of clandestine betting on Pantani in that round, all attacked him and he who had a clear conscience could not react to the end and began to take cocaine, finally he was killed in 2004 probably because he wanted to denounce the injustices of the UCI and the fact that they knew that the cyclists were all doped. He too obviously took something at that time because everyone did it and you can not win against those who are doped if you are not even if you are the strongest, he wanted to change the system and this was done before the tour that not he had him participate in 2001, 2002 and 2003 and then definitively, he was a good person ...
Two legends .
Golden times. Jan Ullrich still probably the biggest talent ever.
Ulle! :D
No, not even remotely close.
Indurain
Massive rider .... The best
Eddy Merckx. It's so obvious it's not even open to debate.
What a fair sportsman Pantani is. Ullrich worked also for him and Pantani gave him the win. Old times 👍🏻
Imagine if ullrich learnt to stand up
Duas Lendas Show de vídeo !!!!
What a great end of the stage with two Gentlemen. Splendid!
Achei massa esse vídeo do tour de France etapa 16 de 1998 ano que nasci,é incrível como as bikes já estavam super evoluídas com marchas etc,agora o mais louco é que os caras não usavam capacete ainda kkkk,show de bola essa prova👏👏👍®🐺
LEgal cara. Eu comecei assistir ciclismo em 1998, era fã do Cipollini, e sim eles não usavam capacete, nem os sprinters. Essas bikes já eram muito boas inclusive eram em carbono. Única diferença era a relação com marchas mais pesadas pois foi Armstrong que popularizou cadencias maiores com relações mais leves. Inclusive spideiros mais velhos (tipo eu hahahah) usavamos 53-39 com 11-23 até bem pouco tempo atrás, só em 2014 aderi aos compactos. Realmente os tempos mudam.
El mayor espectáculo deportivo de la historia
Ullrich - der Gigant.
🖤❤💛
The IS is very funny without cropping. :) But it is certainly better than the original footage!
Something very haunting about the music selection. Very apt somehow... Great footage.
Yes I totally agree, it underlines how epic that battle between these great cyclists was. Nowadays the battles on the Tour de France mountain stages somehow feel different.
epic battles of this beautiful and tough sport 😎
I love Pantani Hill Climb style 👍
Wow...
Extreme extreme extreme....👍👍👍
Que chulada de batalla
The greates Rider when it comes to style Jan Ullrich.
pantani l'ha fatto vincere
no
Sì. E poteva tranquillamente farlo in modo meno plateale. Sia chiaro.. non sono assolutamente contro Pantani, tanto per la cronaca.
Infatti, ha giocato di fino. Inizia la volata, lo controlla e poi, guardando la ruota anteriore di Ullrich, frena proprio all'ultimo momento, facendogliela sudare. Come a voler dire: "se volevo, vincevo anche questa". Grande Marco, senza i fatti di Madonna di Campiglio i 7 Tour di Armstrong erano tuoi! Il più grande campione dopo Merckxx, distrutto dalla mafia e abbandonato da giornalisti corrotti.
Team leaders and race favorites attacking at the foot of climbs....constant excitement. Bring back EPO!
Ulrich held of Pantani just barely there... impressive..
Buenísimo Jan Ullrich, me encantaba
María Esteve Colom tú tampoco estás mal maría....🤭
Hard to believe one of them is regarded as mediocre doper and the other a legend. Both were doped to their ears...
Un grande Marco Pantani, il più forte ciclista che ho visto nella mia vita.
Sí por favor, serían tan amables de decir el nombre de la melodía que inicia aproximadamente en el minuto 1:37. Gracias.
Thank You. No Music!
doping has always been a part of the sport, even way back in the pre-war years. Of course back then they used more primitive methods.
Ullrich the best of all times 💪💪💪
pantani number one in the word forever
leo artista Why? A sad sad tragedy.
There must have been some heavy talking last night in the hotel...lol. It wasn't only that ;)
Love it. Cycling as I remember it. Those steel-framed beasts! Steel is real. I still ride an 853 Renolds frame. But my tyers are now 28 inches wide, rather than those 21-inch tyers lol.
You got it I'm still on real steel too with 32s
Pantani actually rides a 7005 aluminium frame!
Pantani ha fatto il cicloturista in quella tappa, gli altri correvano
Proprio cosi...
Best climber ever, Marco. He deserve more from life...
Doped up to the eyeballs, still great riding though.
Ningún ciclista como demostró Amstromg puede ganar cinco o mas tour de France sin Epo u otra droga. Nadie que gane tanto puede estar limpio a menos que tenga un talento desde joven y tanto Amstrong como Indurain o Froome lo hicieron despues de mucho tiempo en su edad madura, lo cual es extraño que aparezca de sopetón una gran capacidad de ser superciclista. Desde los 80 a hasta 2010 el dopaje ha sido una constante, por eso no se ven grandes batallas porque cada quien va con sus fuerzas al limite sin arriesgar mucho.
Rafa Reds bby
Rafa Reds y que te cres que un mundial o la champions se gana a base de macarrones y acuarius,en el futbol ay barra libre de dopaje pero esta protejido
fromme no lo conocía nadie ni Tour Lavenir gano , ni ningún proceso, luego fue a un laboratorio y un super ciclista , igual que todos los superdopados, siempre con una enfermedad crónica .
Sin 🪖⛑️ unas cosa de locos Crazy Crazy My respect
2 grandes ciclistas de todos los tiemposss
Ullrich.. the greatest 2nd of all time
Well, not really; he won a tour and a vuelta, among other things.
Modern day Poulidor. Eternal second.
Just Epic
Nice old cycling, when riders raced 1v1. Nowadays nobody would attack from so far, if they did, the leader's team would just go to the front and slowly catch him. Boring as sh**.
Completely agree
They just need to bring Epo back
EPO - make cycling great again
let'em dope. this shit is awesome
They do
Nessa época a emoção era maior,hoje não mas,eterno pirata
That was the best 5 years of cycling, virenque, pantani, ulrich
Agreed, cycling was a lot better when everyone was doped to the gills.
With team festina leading it. Man goosebump
97'98 were ulriichs best tours ! He was in the best shape of his entire career!
2003 was also not bad
1996,1997 i would say
In 1998 he was too heavy, same in the following years.
Ullrich could have won 10 tours in a row.... Unfortunately he liked Cakes and Beer more than cycling
@@blackpaint9093 That's true! He was the most talented cyclist of the 1996-2005 peloton, but at the same time one of the least disciplined ones. ;-)
@@floriank6521 Exactly in 2003 he seemed much stronger than LA in the TT's.
I would say Ullrichs best years were 96 and 97. In 96 he was just not allowed to go full gas because he was working for his leader Bijarne Riis. I always thought 96 could easily have been his TDF victory number 1. Well then in 2003 he was super strong as well, he destroyed LA in the TT's but waited for him on the climb when LA crashed. At the end he was 40 seconds behind LA. I think he could have won the 2003 TDF, he clearly was the strongest rider. So for sure Jan could have ended up with 3 TDF victories relatively easily. But well he was fair, and loyal which got in his way for victory. Potentially the TDF 2006 could also have been a TDF victory for him as he prepared very well and was thinner as well but we all know what happened back then....
This looks amazing.
great pirata, ando to remember :
"PENNA NERA OFFICIAL VIDEO"
per gli eroi...
Whats the sick music in the background?
Great English commentators!
Amazing how Jan still had the sprint finishing punch at the line even while being in the wind for so long. Quite an all rounder indeed.
Pantani gifted him the stage. Look at 13.47. Marco even flicks his elbow to tell Ulrich to start sprinting. Then Pantani seems to have to take it easy to let Jan get around him. I'm not taking anything away from Ulrich here, just pointing out what appears pretty obvious to me.
vuelta España Luis errera
My Wild Dreams yea obviously Pantani was never going to genuinely contest the stage after Ulrich did all the work. He did put on a cute pseudo sprint for the cameras though!
xellossaxon what would you expect him to say?
@@JumpingWatermelons good view sir!
Pantani ha onorato Ullrich e la sua bellissima tappa. Dire che lo ha lasciato vincere è riduttivo.
If Ullrich didnt have to fight Lance he would have one at least 2 or 3 or more
In my opinion he would've deserved 3 TdF even with Armstrong around. He could've won in 1996 (stopped for team reasons, his captain actually won, but Jan had something more) and in 2003 (He waited for Armstrong after he fell only to be fooled by Lance, who took advantage of Jan loosing his pace, and then that damn fall in the last time trial)
@@iltuttologo3173 You see it 100% correctly. I share exactly what you said that's true.
@@AugenhoseGlad you agree! Let's say Jan was a gentleman, very respectful with his rivals... A clear example was after the 98 Galibier stage, with Pantani attacking and, despite the terrible day he went throught, he still had wonderful words for Marco... Jan would've deserved more than what he actually won, with 96 & 03 maybe you remember 06 too, he could've made a pretty decent tour that year, expecially without Armstrong around, but things went wrong another time for him...
One of my favourite sportsman ever, without a doubt.
@@iltuttologo3173 yes he was in great shape early on that season. no overweight, no surgeries accidents or what so ever, then that scandal hit him. pure bullshit he got suspended but others did not.
Pantani was a Beast !
Song name please guys ! Awesome this Pantani ! He is the best !
La pollera Colorá.
What ? No.no !
Parece jean Michel Jarre, pero realmente no sabría decirlo. Y es una lastima, música perfecta para entrenar
El elefantino? Il pirata e basta!!! Numero uno, la leggenda del ciclismo!!
two of the greatest pharmacists of all times.
Not remotely as bad as Mafia boss Armstrong.
che gara 👏
LOL look at Ullrich's size difference. He was twice the size when he was toe to toe against Armstrong.
You mean he was thinner back in 98 when compared to the 2000's ? Well in 96 - 98 Jan was around 70 kg. In the Lance area he was around 74-75 kg.
@@Augenhose Ullrich had a problem beeing a pro all year long. He did not have that ultimate winnersdrive that Armstrong had. One tour he stood at the start looking like he ate too many burgers and still came in second. If only he applied himself he could have beaten Armstrong. Even Armstrong said so. 2003 was close.
@@Augenhose He was actually 68 kgs here and 70-71 after 2000. He said his optimal power to weight was 70kgs. He is 183 cms, so given his massive legs he is a SUPER SKINNY guy.
@@Augenhose Ullrich optimum weight to be competitive was 70 kg. Lower he struggled to get the power out. His problem after 97 was he became complacent, and let himself too much in winter, and lead up to TdF he usually lost those excess weight too fast, and this made him vulnerable to Armstrong, whom usually perfectly prepared for TdF
Adriano De Zan disse: fossi stato in Pantani però uno scatto lo avrei fatto..😆 Immenso Pirata ❤
Grande Marco...
holy shit look how long their stem is, back them they got lower by having a longer stem not a lower head tube. Look at their arms, so far forward.
I got backpain just from watching it 😂😖😂
Grande Ulricj
Nobody was dropping "The Pirate"
Thanks but what's with the seasick footage ?!
Auto aligment of frames. It was filmed as a Old Fashioned way...
King Pantani
Pantani the best and Ulrich too the best.
Great Time
Madre mía que han e bulucionado las bicis y le que las rodea
greta times with Lars Ulrich
ياااسلام
When real men ride steel frames
Those were probably not steel monocromoly and aluminum were introduced long ago by then.
@@therealhypehype5617 for sure...aluminum for both pantani and ulrich right there...no steel for them
Carbon
PANTANI.. SEMPLICEMENTE IL NUMERO 1
All tour winners live by the mantra, “by any means necessary”, and those means do include doping. As doping advances so should the rules and methods to trace the doping.
en el año 98 donde estaba Armstrong?? estaaba en un laboratorio, luego volvio como el ave Fenix, en el 2.018 existe otro ciclista que esta a punto de morir de un asma cronica pero ya lleva 4 Tour de FRancia
Todos estão dopados, Armstrong is the truth. Desde o inicio, os atletas sempre utilizaram algo mais, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
lol @ that guy running along side the riders at 4:30
0:32 istnt ullrichs bike position a bit weird? as if the bike would be too big for him. hes too streched not compact at all
Thats old school right there. Look at all the older rider positions. Indurian, Lemond,Armstrong,Etc.
Luis errera
I bought my first road bike at the age of 14 in 1999 and I can confirm that the bike geometry in the late 90s was horrifically stretched!!!
ballyp81 Those bikes all have the older Quill Stems which where considered more safer since there is only 2 torque points to torque but this made it harder to swap out the quill stem as you needed a complete Quill. The newer bikes you do not take out the stem only the bar that attaches to the handle and the stem. This is so that you can swap out a shorter bar and not have to remove the Quill post on the forks. To me the Quill system is safer but a pain in the ass for shorter people as you need a shorter Quill . The new system is much faster to swap out the bars that attach to the handles and this makes it much easier for quick rider setups.
they used to get low by having a longer stem. Nowadays they get low by having a shorter headtube and slammed stem.
Ulrich per quanto era stanco non riusciva neanche a fare la volata per finta Pantani ha fatto il Signore Egli ha lasciato la tappa tirando fino alla fine per guadagnare secondi per la maglia gialla si è visto anche a 100 metri dall'arrivo quando Pantani gli tira la volata e gli fa segno con il gomito di passare ulri era lesso e finito
MAURIZIO MORELLI bici Wow menomale lo hai notato anche tu! Credevo fossi l'unico, secondo me ci sono messi d'accordo fra di loro.Che si vede chiaramente che lo fa vincere!
What about the dancing screen?
a trick to keep away copyright problems
Dancing, dancing wohooo whoop enjoy yourself with a little dance.
Próximo capítulo;
Tadej vs. Egan
Era bonito el ciclismo de esa época hasta q llegó lanc