Indurain and Lance Armstrong time trial Tour 1994

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  • Indurain overtakes Armstrong which can not follow him.
    Indurain takes 2 minutes ahead to Rominger and more than 5 on Boardman, two of the best specialists of all time and the last two record holders of the hour record.
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    Stage 9: Monday, July 11, Périgueux - Bergerac 64 km Individual Time Trial
    1. Miguel Indurain: 1hr 15min 58sec
    2. Tony Rominger @ 2min
    3. Armand De Las Cuevas @ 4min 22sec
    4. Thierry Marie @ 4min 45sec
    5. Chris Boardman @ 5min 27sec
    6. Bjarne Riis @ 5min 33sec
    7. Thomas Davy @ 5min 35sec
    8. Abraham Olano @ 5min 45sec
    9. Arturas Kasputis @ 6min 1sec
    10. Piotr Ugrumov @ 6min 4sec
    13. Lance Armstrong @ 6min 23 sec
    25. Claudio Chiapucci @ 8min 04 sec
    70. Marco Pantani @ 10min 58 sec

ความคิดเห็น • 576

  • @Dave-lr2wo
    @Dave-lr2wo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    One gets so much more vivid sense of the actual "tour" from this video than from the very sterile coverage of today. There is the feeling of the streets and the hills and sun and sound. Interesting.

  • @lenesu86
    @lenesu86 8 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    I miss those times when the tour had long and hard time trials.

    • @danielabrams7587
      @danielabrams7587 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Mihail Sirbu Absolutely.

    • @alpha8438
      @alpha8438 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Exactly. Christian Prudhomme had the brilliant idea to introduce more hill stages and every once in a while some cobble stones, but on the other hand the mountains are not hard enough every two years in average, there are still two many sprinters and flat stages causing a high number of crashes and he is absolutely against long time trial "because some of the favorites gain two much time on these stages". Well, if you set up some many flat stages and poor moutain stages obviously the time trial become two decisive ... And I didn't even mention the fact that the Giro and the Vuelta have some very attractive routes since the begining of the decade, making the Tour less attractive. Dumoulin, Pinot and Chaves are snobing the tour this year for the Giro, Quintana and Nibali gave their priority to the Giro last year, etc ..

    • @thewidesight
      @thewidesight 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I also miss these good old Epo days! (Irony!!!)

    • @yesil1026
      @yesil1026 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly. Even the 8-10 km prologue was exciting for me.

    • @dirkusmaximus9268
      @dirkusmaximus9268 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mihail Sirbu indeed, 63 kilometers, before the mountains, he took always at least 3min30 to the second, even 5 sometimes, climbers 6-7 minutes

  • @abone2pick
    @abone2pick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Indurain the heaviest winner in tour history. His mental and physical strength in the mountains was insane. We will never see a rider like this man again.

    • @MrMiquel10
      @MrMiquel10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      totally agree with you. He is the best ever existed

    • @chrrev1
      @chrrev1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah I really enjoyed the Indurain years, very stylish rider. In saying that, let's not forget Jacques Anquetil who was a time trial freak also. Nine time winner of the Grand Prix des Nations, most of them 140 km time trials. 140 km. Let that sink in.

    • @Broodkast8
      @Broodkast8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It was an era of weak climbers though. And EPO changed the whole sport at the time.

    • @chrrev1
      @chrrev1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Broodkast8 weak climbers... You're clueless

    • @Rvdecwthug
      @Rvdecwthug ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Broodkast8I do not think Indurain would even be top 10 now in the tour, because the Tour back then was much more time trial heavy and the last 15 years, there is not that much time trial. Search Wikipedia on the 92 Tour Route, there could not have been a tour ever better suited for a time trial rider like Indurain, the Pyrenees were skipped that year and only 2 days in the Alps

  • @Eddie_Tyler
    @Eddie_Tyler 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Just imagine how these guys would've looked in HD... Absolute beastmode.

    • @kcd2120
      @kcd2120 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha - yes, this looks like it was filmed with a potato.

    • @leart78
      @leart78 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kcd2120 do you think cameras were bad in 1994?
      its just the storage it was saved that ruined the quality

    • @kcd2120
      @kcd2120 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@leart78 You’re probably right!

  • @giuseppec8158
    @giuseppec8158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "If I die during the Tour de France , you do not give up the race" - Big Mig's father. Rest in peace.

  • @tool5150
    @tool5150 6 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    That moment when Lance said I need some serious medical help.

    • @domestique3954
      @domestique3954 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Triadlateralus 🤣

    • @TenTegens
      @TenTegens 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I need same doctor :)

    • @floriank6521
      @floriank6521 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TenTegens Dr. Ferrari? :P

    • @mattieaflo
      @mattieaflo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      To even the playing field since Indurain was doping too

    • @mplkgr6797
      @mplkgr6797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well, he already had a serious medical help at that time, that's why he got testicle cancer.
      Then I let you guess what sort of help he got in 1999 to be even faster, not medical anymore, but motorised.

  • @tyler.london
    @tyler.london 9 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I like that 650c front/700c rear wheel combination. Old school tech is always neat to see.

    • @AndresMUy-vd2fy
      @AndresMUy-vd2fy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes , Campagnolo Shamal titanuim 650 cc in front and Campagnolo Ghibli 700 in rear .

    • @friendlyflow
      @friendlyflow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you think this is efficient? i am curious why they're not using this anymore.

    • @AndresMUy-vd2fy
      @AndresMUy-vd2fy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@friendlyflow efficient in the old era
      More aero , more lightweight for the little front wheel , and more inestability in front on the bike , the position in the bike its very forced compared with the new tt bikes .

    • @lavielemond
      @lavielemond 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@friendlyflow Because the UCI banned it!! That's why they're no longer using it!!

    • @VenancioPineda
      @VenancioPineda 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No "old school tech" here: the small wheel in the front just forced Indurain which had a huge body to get a more aerodynamic position on the bike. That's all.

  • @OFFSHOREDOUG
    @OFFSHOREDOUG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    When the world champion get overtaken and 2 one hour record holders get beaten by over 2 min you know you are watching best.

  • @m.amonroy4465
    @m.amonroy4465 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Indurain was a beast,best time trialist ever

    • @apollobrown6568
      @apollobrown6568 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For real...

    • @Penfold-zr2be
      @Penfold-zr2be 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anquetil takes that honour. 9 GP Nations when it was essentially the ITT world championship plus all those grand tour tt wins.

    • @m.amonroy4465
      @m.amonroy4465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Penfold-zr2be I don't think Anquetil would have been able to beat Toni Rominger by 2 minutes, and Chris Boardman by more than 5 minutes, as Indurain did, remember Rominger and Boardman were Time trial specialists.

    • @Penfold-zr2be
      @Penfold-zr2be 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@m.amonroy4465 You clearly don't know cycling history. Anquetil's era also had tt specialist like Baldini, Riviere, Aldo Moser Rolf Graf etc. As he never competed in the 90s you can't say how he would have fared against riders in that era.

    • @thetommoody
      @thetommoody 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Penfold-zr2be Yes, two different eras...as it was, Indurain would have smoked Anquetil without question. The physical differences were without question....

  • @johnnywalton5099
    @johnnywalton5099 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Miquel looks like a beast here what a muscular monster!

    • @mikespence8956
      @mikespence8956 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      SOID! THE! BIG! (MIG)!!! THE! TOUR! DE! FRANCE! (G,O,A,T)!!! SOID! IS! THE! (YELLOW)!!! JERSEY! (MAN)!!! SOID! *MIKE!!! SPENCE!!! THE! (G,O,A,T,B)!!!

    • @patthewoodboy
      @patthewoodboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      drugs do that

    • @jname9368
      @jname9368 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patthewoodboy if drugs were the reason he was big, then every rider in the tour would be 250lbs of pure muscle

    • @Squashenpil
      @Squashenpil 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes pretty muscular and a resting heart rate of 28 bpm extremely rare.

    • @flazone4486
      @flazone4486 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Squashenpilhe was so cold and don’t feeling the pressure, when you watch him riding he was so calm and confident, and that’s one of the reasons of his success

  • @Raycetruck
    @Raycetruck 11 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Gotta love the steel frames.

    • @acewilliams7917
      @acewilliams7917 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed, more durable.

    • @jotcarey
      @jotcarey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@acewilliams7917 The top riders received several new steel frames per year; the rest a new one every year or two. As with Formula 1 racing, you can have fast or you can have durable, but not both.

    • @treygray2817
      @treygray2817 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jotcarey Steel is obviously slower, but look at the performances the riders produced on them. Far faster than contemporary carbon frames. Unfettered EPO use will best technologies advancements 100 times out of 100 😂

  • @oscarbaron8051
    @oscarbaron8051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    look indurain position, he had the best time trial position of all history

    • @abone2pick
      @abone2pick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually he wasn't that aero. Look at the gap between between his chest and bars riders now are tighter and more aero but the best in his time

    • @justjase1576
      @justjase1576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@abone2pick Totally agree, back then there was a lot of talk of why didn't he try to adopt a more aero position, the answer was he didn't need to and he didn't like it. I guess when you can throw around 500w+ it doesn't matter so much. I remember him doing the hour record, later came out he didn't even want to do it, but Banesto kind of pushed him into it (alledgedly).

  • @simonmakinson
    @simonmakinson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    In my humble opinion..Big Mig was the greatest.

    • @mikespence8956
      @mikespence8956 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      SOID! CORRECT! THE! BIG! (MIG)!!! SOID! WITH! (REAL)!!! GOOD! TOUR! DE! FRANCE! (KNOWLEDGE)!!! SOID! IS! THE! TOUR! DE! FRANCE! (G,O,A,T)!!! SOID! *MIKE!!! SPENCE!!! THE! (G,O,A,T,B)!!!

    • @shooter7a
      @shooter7a 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, the greatest doper. He was a super domestique....not a top tier rider for all of the late 1980s. Then EPO emerges (1990-1991), and Mig is suddenly the very best. Quite a conincidence. Did Mig suddenly learn how to train in 1991? LOL...no. He was the rider who responded the best to EPO. Had something to do with his massively proportioned lungs. He needed a way to get his circulatory system to carry the volume of O2 that his lungs could provide. Enter EPO....

    • @yeclano858585
      @yeclano858585 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shooter7a si tienes pruebas denuncia ante la UCI. FANTASMA!!!

    • @chrrev1
      @chrrev1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@shooter7amaybe but you have zero proof of what you're saying so it's worthless

  • @roma1579
    @roma1579 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    waouh, Indurain was such a beast!!!

    • @mxplk
      @mxplk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's all the drugs.

    • @abone2pick
      @abone2pick 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mxplk you cant turn a mule into a race horse with hormones.

    • @mxplk
      @mxplk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@abone2pick It might be impossible to turn a mule into a race horse using drugs, but here we're talking about elite athletes. And just as one can turn an also-ran elite horse into a Triple Crown winner with the judicious administration of drugs, you CAN turn an elite domestique into a major tour winner with drugs. Floyd Landis might be one such example in pro cycling. Barry Bonds would be an example from baseball.

    • @abone2pick
      @abone2pick 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mxplk keep in mind in order to be a domestique for a pro cycling team you already have to be strong af. Even the weakest domestiques would demolish us. If u not naturally talented the team won't even offer you the drugs.

  • @benitolopez4898
    @benitolopez4898  11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You can remember the time trial in Luxembourg Tour 1992, Indurain won and Lemond was 4 minutes 4 seconds behind in fifth position. I made a highlights video about it entitled: Indurain the most incredible time trial ever seen Tour 1992 part 1 of 2

    • @mettacitta2000
      @mettacitta2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      4 minutes??!!!! Thats simply astonishing!!

  • @LGMFerrari
    @LGMFerrari 10 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Qué Increible; Qué "máquina humana"!!!! :)
    El Mejor de todos los tiempos!

  • @benitolopez4898
    @benitolopez4898  11 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Do not compare a single day time trial with a time trial race after many days in the Tour de France.
    Running on a velodrome and in the road with tough ledges is not the same.
    Comparing indurain with Boardman is like comparing a tennis player and a paddle player.
    Indurain won 2 Giros de Italia the same year that won the Tour de France, only the greatest can do that.
    5 Tours and 2 Giros. Even Abraham Olano almost always won Boardman in the time trial.

    • @mattieaflo
      @mattieaflo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Greatest at doping?

  • @MaxxerG
    @MaxxerG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Big Mig is the definition of a classic gentlemen rider. Destroys Lance Armstrong like a parent playing soccer against his 5 years old kid and stays classy. El Rey.

  • @stevenreiss
    @stevenreiss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    as far as I can see, his european counterparts never had a day in court on any count, nor ever paid a cent on any charges of doping - but he was and is a hero cyclist with great physical talents and attributes.

  • @hmartinspliff
    @hmartinspliff 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    When Indurain zooms past at 3:08, this was a moment of epiphany for Lance Armstrong........he's thinking to himself: _"I want some of what he's having."_ 5 years later and after beating cancer, Lance starts his impossible win streak of 7 consecutive Tour de France wins. Even Disney doesn't make fairytales that outrageous.

    • @Roollaayy
      @Roollaayy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      100%

    • @user-uh6lm5wv6n
      @user-uh6lm5wv6n 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hehe nice 👌

    • @CB-fv4vv
      @CB-fv4vv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you provide evidence to support your statement???

    • @CB-fv4vv
      @CB-fv4vv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      SEAL CYCLE Yes, really.

    • @abone2pick
      @abone2pick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Indurain Also won 7 grand tours as well as medals in the world road race and world and Olympic time trial. He also broke the hour record and his was one of the last to complete a giro / tour double. Keep in mind he did all this at around 170 pounds ..Talk about a fairy tale🤣

  • @joeyslats31
    @joeyslats31 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    6:40 The comparison between Rominger and Indurains form on the bike is like night and day.

  • @roadfert
    @roadfert 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It was this time trial that sealed the deal for Lance to do EPO. Prior to this he was “clean” but on this day he’s realized his career was over if he didn’t dope. If you watch his interview at the end Armstrong is spent and flabbergasted at how fast Mig was going (he was on EPO) and how as a World Champion he got passed like he was going backwards. I remember watching this live in 94.

    • @fiddleronthebike
      @fiddleronthebike 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Armstrong also had a catastrophic position on the TT bike, aero drag like a truck - that was btw also the case in the later years when he destroyed everyone, he only made that up with his "turbo"...

    • @888jucu
      @888jucu 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have to agree with you ☝️

  • @jecbute
    @jecbute 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I was there that day on the course watching. What you can only guess at from these pictures is the heat that day - it was well over 35 degrees and if there was any wind movement it was in their face. The roads are tiny in parts and the surface was grippy and the tar was melting and it was far from flat! I rode a bike at a decent level once and I rate this the greatest ride I ever saw at any time.......well this and Boardman's 56k hour record! Though because of the conditions and course I actually rate Indurain's ride that day higher. Now I do not want to even enter into the spurious drug argument but it would be naive in the extreme not to have some reservations about a ride like this in 1994 when EPO was well known and also undetectable. We will just never know who was and who wasn't in the mid 90's. Nevertheless make no mistake, Indurain would give Tony Martin or Fabian or Wiggins a good race over 50k today.

    • @LXremirP
      @LXremirP 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think Indurain doped like all the GC contenders, but I think he is among those who would have been better off if everyone was clean. He would have dominated more easily.

    • @michaelmottlau2072
      @michaelmottlau2072 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +jetbute. Very well said! in mind there is no doubt that Indurain did dope to win the Tour de France five times 1990-95 in a time where many top contenders admitted to the use of doping, especially EPO.

    • @danfuerthgillis4483
      @danfuerthgillis4483 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And all those riders would be on a 14 kg road bike, that would be an interesting race INDEED.

  • @benitolopez4898
    @benitolopez4898  11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Laurent Fignon of France tested positive for amphetamines at the Grand Prix de la Liberation in Eindhoven on 17 September 1989 (wikipedia)

  • @juanvian9584
    @juanvian9584 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Como entra Indurain en la última curva.impresionante!!

  • @gregmark8902
    @gregmark8902 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a total monster against the watch!This was brilliant to watch at the time.Fantastic!Surely Big Ted would have approved of that display of total domination. :)

  • @gregy55902
    @gregy55902 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Getting destroyed like that in the rainbow jersey must have been embarrassing for Armstrong. Indurain was a time trial God though.

    • @neoneherefrom5836
      @neoneherefrom5836 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well he did best Indurain for that rainbow jersey - who was visibly distraught in defeat to Lance.

  • @benitolopez4898
    @benitolopez4898  11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Floyd Landis and Tyler Hamilton, two of Armstrong’s former teammates, testified that he had admitted to testing positive at the race in Switzerland (2001) but boasted of the result being covered

  • @armedandready9181
    @armedandready9181 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For his height, Endurain had such great TT form....he looks very comfortable in that position.

  • @WEGA1958
    @WEGA1958 11 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    INDUTRAIN. POR SIEMPRE MIGUELON.....

  • @MrMiquel10
    @MrMiquel10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    El mejor ciclista de la historia con mucha diferencia

  • @ivickplay365
    @ivickplay365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    La imagen cuando sale de meta es épica . Impone verlo ,parece que va en moto .

  • @faithinverity8523
    @faithinverity8523 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was Stage 9. When Armstrong was interviewed at the finish he said, "It's over." Indurain took the lead and kept it.
    The highest oxygen uptake ever meausured. A biological freak. And a superbly classy guy.

    • @DarthBane-zf8wv
      @DarthBane-zf8wv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is Riis a biological freak for having the highest Hematicrit value ever measured in Cycling. What a clown comment....

    • @lavielemond
      @lavielemond 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DarthBane-zf8wv Agreed 100%, my friend...sure, "Big Mig" left the sport quietly after winning his 5 TDF's & never sought the publicity & adulation that the sociopathic bully Pharmstrong did but he was so obviously a doper, which was especially evident when EPO really hit the peloton in '91 & he won 5 years straight from '91-'95!! Also, this guy's completely full of $hit re: the highest VO2 max "ever measured" - LeMond's VO2 max was recorded at 92.5, which is 4.5 ml/kg/min better than Indurain's 88.0.

    • @lavielemond
      @lavielemond 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Um, while I (& virtually anyone who followed cycling 30-odd years ago & knew/knows anything about the sport, both then & now, in hindsight) are completely aware of the fact that "Big Mig" almost definitely used EPO to win 5 years straight from '91-'95, I have nothing personal against the guy. However, re: your unfounded claims re: his supposedly superior "oxygen uptake" capacity, have you ever heard of a certain Greg LeMond, perchance? LeMond's VO2 max was tested at 92.5, which was a full 4.5 ml/kg/min superior to Indurain's 88.0 & when you say "ever measured", BOTH of them were beaten to the bragging rights of best ever VO2 max by a couple of Scandinavian biathletes/cross country skiers.

    • @glywnniswells9480
      @glywnniswells9480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lavielemond according to his total oxygen uptake he was 10kg heavier so 88 is a massive oxygen uptake its measured per kilo..

  • @glywnniswells9480
    @glywnniswells9480 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The tour is now sometimes 500k shorter and they also dont have these long ITTs new format sucks

    • @abp1400
      @abp1400 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      With the "super teams" forming with like 3-4 GC contenders per team they really need at least 2 long ITTs, and probably the prologue, too to differentiate times, or it's just gonna be the teams picking a winner.

  • @John-ho4tv
    @John-ho4tv 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is what you call exploding out of the gate....speed is incredible off the start..

  • @massacredh
    @massacredh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the best of the best.... my actual project named... "Sir Indurain"

  • @thomgomez2799
    @thomgomez2799 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Indurain is Master of Master!!!!

  • @josemiguelmolto1852
    @josemiguelmolto1852 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Se me ponen los pelos como escarpias recordando al numero 1 de todos los tiempos

  • @ronaldabidog
    @ronaldabidog 8 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    It's amazing that some people still think Indurain was clean in his 5 tour wins.

    • @samuelharo5112
      @samuelharo5112 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      No, it's incredible that some people think he wasn't clear, you haven't run a tour so shut up

    • @wareverwarever9200
      @wareverwarever9200 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dense much?

    • @friendlyflow
      @friendlyflow 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They made a competition of who could prepare himself the best.

    • @arnoldduizendstra4613
      @arnoldduizendstra4613 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Anyone who thinks Indurain was clean should educate themselves with books.

    • @XTCyMAN
      @XTCyMAN 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samuelharo5112 they don't accept somebody so strong and from spain it hurts

  • @jesusmatos5329
    @jesusmatos5329 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    brutal!!!!!! amazing!!!

  • @marcelino215
    @marcelino215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The KING 👊

  • @thamescapital2074
    @thamescapital2074 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So wrong but I love Mig's rides like this. There's one of him finishing a TT (in yellow) having smashed everyone then after 10secs calmly stepped off his bike like he'd arrived at the shop.

  • @runcycleskixc
    @runcycleskixc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They are so doped that the camera resolution cannot keep up with their speed.

  • @benitolopez4898
    @benitolopez4898  11 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Blood values are only part of the performance; the rest of the body (which is a lot, and Indurain has an amazing body, best build than Lemond, Hinault or Fignon in my opinion), capacity for suffering, concentration, motivation, aerodynamic position, pedaling technique, skill, etc., are the largest part of the final result.

    • @thiscocks
      @thiscocks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He had nothing on hinault or fignon for skill and style especially in the mountains. If it wasn't for blood doping and epo indurain would be nowhere near them on the climbs.

    • @lavielemond
      @lavielemond 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So you would prefer to lug "Big Mig"'s rather cumbersome body up über-steep mountains, rather than that of LeMond, Hinault or Fignon, would you?! That was where the EPO came in, of course!!

    • @m.amonroy4465
      @m.amonroy4465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thiscocks Do you think the rest of the peloton were on Kool-Aid only? Everyone Armstrong, Merckx, Greg Lemond, Froome they all used enhancing performance drugs to win the Tour de France

  • @shooter7a
    @shooter7a 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I wonder if this was the Tour where Lance said F*** It...time to get serious about doping. The way Indurain went by him...LOL

    • @coyote000
      @coyote000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      shooter7a I remember seeing him in an interview say: «f***. I’m getting dropped.» I think it was after this stage.

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, american cyclists at the time were light-years behind the curve on doping regiments compared to the europeans.

  • @miuzuhoa1610
    @miuzuhoa1610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hat moment when Lance said I need some serious medic

  • @alanwalsh88
    @alanwalsh88 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    he did actually in TDF '99 for cortisone. But was allowed to get a retrospective prescription for saddle sores by UCI to circumvent the positive test.

  • @juant6472
    @juant6472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Miguel was capable of 510Watt for more than 1 hour, nobody even today can do near that.

    • @david9243
      @david9243 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he was capable up to 550 watts. Guy was a monster

    • @neoneherefrom5836
      @neoneherefrom5836 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s sick if true.

    • @KekusMagnus
      @KekusMagnus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      this is what drugs do to you

    • @desertrainfrog1691
      @desertrainfrog1691 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Armstrong's was allegedly 500 watts for 30-40 minutes. He was also a much smaller guy compared to Indurain though, so his w/kg were equal or better.

  • @ignaciolopez7581
    @ignaciolopez7581 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Undoubtedly the greatest performance in cycling/sports history

  • @titochiko3517
    @titochiko3517 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    legenda...

  • @Ystadcop
    @Ystadcop 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know it's a difficult question. But you've pretty well summed up the way I feel about it. We can wring our hands about the unfairness of it all, but it isn't going to go away. It's all spoilt though. Someone wins a stage or does a spectacular ride and you wonder....... and I think that scrubbing Armstrong's record is ridiculous, as Dave Stocks there has made plain.

  • @andrewpodmore2440
    @andrewpodmore2440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    80kg knocking out 500 watts and won 5 tours in a row, compared to the emancipated cyclists of today these guys were huge and on all sorts, 😉 you cant win a tour today @80kg. But Miguel was a phenomenal machine, zumo or no zumo.

  • @teis79
    @teis79 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That TT bike is epic by the way

  • @davidgomeztejada9684
    @davidgomeztejada9684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A 50 el promedio durante más de una hora,, increíble,de otro mundo,a 2021 y nadie como él

  • @ceccomyth
    @ceccomyth 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Indurain was the best time-trial specialist in modern history, but Armstrong didn't fight to win Tour de France before 1999, he fought to win one-day races, like Fleche Wallonne, Liege-Bastogne-Liege and World Championship and he was world champion in 1993 in Oslo.
    He lost weight after cancer and he won his first Tour in 1999.
    Perhaps Armstrong did not even committed to win that time-trial stage and he was already thinking about the next stages.

    • @CJC94
      @CJC94 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ceccomyth Lance said he was going full gas. In Lance's first 4 tours he only finished 1, he wasn't a climber, he struggled when stages were over 200k. He wasn't a contender in any way for the overall until he came back from cancer and won with his first attempt.

    • @coopalooop10
      @coopalooop10 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah his 1993 world championship on road racing meant nothing. You people talk out of your ass 99% of the time on TH-cam. It's worse than facebook

    • @MrCaptzap
      @MrCaptzap 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The World Championship is a one day race. Prior to his cancer, Lance was known for focusing on the one day classics, as mentioned above. It wasn't until his return to the sport that he focused on the TdF instead.

  • @cristianlandriel407
    @cristianlandriel407 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No entendí una mierda lo que decia el relator, pero, la pucha che, ¡qué placer ver a Indurain!

  • @BeastAnd71
    @BeastAnd71 8 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Indurain has been the best cronoman of all times!

    • @ivanboesky1520
      @ivanboesky1520 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Miguel DopeDurain, one of the best dopers of all time. LOL

    • @fidelriostoranzo3157
      @fidelriostoranzo3157 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      BeastAnd71 all cyclist are doped, so Induráin is the best

    • @fernandozzyosbourne5926
      @fernandozzyosbourne5926 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bob Gardner demuestralo o calla la boca

    • @matteogamba3236
      @matteogamba3236 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The best cronoman Is Fabian Cancellara

  • @ide380
    @ide380 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Por los siglos de los siglos......

  • @vicini01
    @vicini01 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Indurain WAS THE LAST OF MODERN TIMES competitor CLEAN THAT RAN. IN HIS CAREER HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED AND NOTHING EVER been found!! ALWAYS USED THE SUBSTANCE ALLOWED. DEDICATION work!! AND WHAT him apart?? The genetic factor!!

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Omerta.

    • @888jucu
      @888jucu 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cmon clean?? Is this even a serious comment

  • @giancarlodavila9006
    @giancarlodavila9006 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Un extraterrestre llamado Miguel Induráin 👽

  • @benitolopez4898
    @benitolopez4898  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An elite athlete who does thousands of kilometers per year does not have to work hard to keep the weight. Today at 49 years remains very fit. Not everyone has the same metabolism.

    • @abone2pick
      @abone2pick 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indurain was around 170 pounds. I ride nowhere near as much and weigh less then that

  • @benitolopez4898
    @benitolopez4898  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    It means that Indurain is not in the List of doping cases in cycling of the wikipedia

  • @justjase1576
    @justjase1576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Indurain got me into bike racing, he had such an incredibly fluid and powerful style in the time trial, utterly demolish everything around him. If you go back and watch the world championship in 1993 that Lance won, look at Indurains face on the podium, he looked annoyed. I think he wanted to prove a point here and demolish Armstrong, thats why he started so fast. Either way, what a brilliant TDF winner. Legendary.

    • @creativity.studio4967
      @creativity.studio4967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @ Farlight - I agree, you're right. Lance was really lucky to win the '93 Worlds, because they let him get away, because he was just a 21-year-old nobody. That's why Indurain was so pissed and wanted to prove a point in the '94 Tour TT and catch him (2-minute man ahead) so quickly and humiliate the brash arrogant punk.

    • @abone2pick
      @abone2pick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@creativity.studio4967 lmaoo ain't no gifts in a one day race. Lance was barely 21 bro. If you had put them in their prime together indurain would get destroyed the same way Ulrich used to get his ass handed to him in the mountains.

    • @justjase1576
      @justjase1576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@abone2pick I am an Armstrong fan too, I think we are unlucky not to see these two in their prime fighting it out. No doubt Armstrong would have been incredible in the mountains, but with Time Trial performances like the 1992 Luxembourg TT (41 miles at an average speed of 31mph, insane) where Indurain put 3 mins into 2nd place, I doubt Armstrong would have won any TTs.... but, different story in the mountains. From a pure bike racing perspective, and nothing more, I miss watching either of them in their prime.

    • @louisritnagellarsen687
      @louisritnagellarsen687 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      barely 21?? Omg are you fucking kidding??! He was almost 22

  • @loscharcones
    @loscharcones 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imaginemos que todos iban dopados no estaban todos en igualdad de condiciones ? Por lo tanto fin de la discusion indurain el mejor ciclista de su época y uno de los mejores de toda la historia

  • @benhancock1071
    @benhancock1071 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fernando read our full discussion before piping up. I never said Armstrong didnt dope, he clearly did, I said he never officially tested positive.

  • @benitolopez4898
    @benitolopez4898  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    According to your argument any world record holder would be doped. Bolt is 11 hundredths of a second faster than the second in just 100 meters. Indurain is "only" 1 second per kilometer faster than Rominger here (Rominger had a puncture) in the 64 kilometers time trial. You can't be serious!

  • @esemogambo
    @esemogambo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Que barbaridad lo de Indurain, sacando 2min a tomy y 5 min al tercero....

  • @ChuckLeCluck
    @ChuckLeCluck 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Miguel Indurain TT was insanely fast. In my books he is the greatest rider.

  • @pinarellolimoncello
    @pinarellolimoncello 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bonkers, he went past Armstrong like he was standing still.

  • @benitolopez4898
    @benitolopez4898  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And also suspected that Indurain rode saving energies until last kilometer LOL

  • @j2mf
    @j2mf 9 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    looks like MotoGP race

  • @benitolopez4898
    @benitolopez4898  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're accusing Gianni Bugno, Tony Rominger, Zenon Jaskula, Piotr Ugrumov (all of them podium in the 5 Tour de France that Indurain won), and hundreds of cyclist that rode the Tour de France those 5 years and who are not in the List of doping cases in cycling of the wikipedia.

  • @ryiin
    @ryiin 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    he was genetically designed for cycling. Just ashame everyone around him has said they had doped. It asks the question?

  • @uberkloden
    @uberkloden 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When did Lance first use EPO? When did Indurain first use EPO?

  • @benitolopez4898
    @benitolopez4898  11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There has been doping since Tour began in 1903. Indurain is a freak of nature. Why do you not write your opinions in videos of Ullrich, Jalabert or Armstrong? It´s all i have to say.

    • @matthijsmaris8703
      @matthijsmaris8703 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you post a video of Indurain ,you get comments on Indurain.Welcome to youtube.

  • @glywnniswells9480
    @glywnniswells9480 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow Indurain was 5km ph faster that Zulle that is like two different species its like a cheetah vs a horse

  • @Ferreal92
    @Ferreal92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:57 Even if I was going downhill, with a tailwind, being chased by a rabid dog, with my girlfriend's parents gone for the weekend and she tells me to come over, could I ever, EVER achieve this kind of speed. Legend has it he still averages 500 watts just eating a doughnut.

    • @acewilliams7917
      @acewilliams7917 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol!!😄 You're gonna need NOS on your bike.

  • @jimijj8325
    @jimijj8325 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The TdF has reduced the length of the time trial stages too much. They were perhaps a bit too long in this era and somewhere in the middle would be best. The gold standard time trial length is 40km and that would be ideal for grand tour time trial stages.

  • @alfonso0155
    @alfonso0155 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ...INDURAIN EN ESA CONTRARELOJ IBA COMO UN TIRO...TIENE TELA PARA SACARLES 2 MINUTOS A LOS MEJORES CONTRARELOJISTAS DEL MOMENTO...!

  • @FlecheDeFer
    @FlecheDeFer 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Doping or not, Indurain was such a machine

  • @ameise4038
    @ameise4038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best ever

  • @ivanivy1011
    @ivanivy1011 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    resting heart rate of 28 bpm, Max 205, VO2 90+, reported avg 580 watts at the Luxembourg TT, with in 30 seconds of going over a high pass his heart rate would drop to 70 BPM. I can't say with certainty he didn't dope, but those numbers were enough to beat everyone at that time doping or not.

    • @craigross341
      @craigross341 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Physiologists have said that on the back of an envelope you can prove that the power means a VO2 max they've never seen in the lab. Giant rowers can do 6.4L, but they weigh 100kg plus, and do 64ml per kg. I'm not saying it's impossible to be like that, get down to 80kg, and keep the 6.4. But some of this seems to mean VO2 at 8L plus.

  • @benitolopez4898
    @benitolopez4898  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    a cancer survivor and one of the fittest men in the world over 40 years old.

  • @mariomarjan
    @mariomarjan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THE BEST EVER AND FOREVER!

  • @HerrProfM
    @HerrProfM 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Armstrong was already doping at that time. He stated that he started doping when he was around 21. But it might be this time when he thought that he needs to crank up his doping to 11. Just a few months later he started working wot Ferrari...

  • @TraumaER
    @TraumaER 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *What does the different back wheel do for the bike?*

    • @TraumaER
      @TraumaER 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Literally Hitler do people use those tires for daily riding and training around the neighborhood?

    • @TraumaER
      @TraumaER 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Literally Hitler thanks man. I just got back into biking with a 2021 ALR4 and while the gravel tires are decent (already got 1 flat and had to walk home 3+ miles because I'm an idiot and don't carry spares LOL), I'd like to get some carbon wheels just because I like the way they look. Not sure how durable road tires are around the streets though. If I got a flat with gravel tires on the streets...

  • @ide380
    @ide380 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Armstrong,who is Arrmstrong?

  • @EmaVillalbaCiclista
    @EmaVillalbaCiclista 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Armstrong said in an interview after that time trial that he was going on a 53-11 - 60kph and could not match the speed of Miguel indurain... Holy mother of Epo! I know a lot of people is going to insult me and telling me that i need some "extraordinary proof" but... C´MON it's like going behind a motorbike . Definitly not natural. NOT that long!

    • @solangeescobar5375
      @solangeescobar5375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Have you had a look at Miguel Indurain's physical data? May help to explain why he could put out 1000 watts for as long as he could. Hence why he could ride like he did.

    • @Cris-ss8tb
      @Cris-ss8tb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Resting hr 40 ,bpm

  • @richardgallant7378
    @richardgallant7378 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BIG MIG TOTAL POWER,,,,, AND HE CAN CLIMB WELL

  • @benitolopez4898
    @benitolopez4898  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Henceforth all comments accusing Indurain of being doped will be deleted. You come here to honor the champion not to revile him. Thanks for your understanding.

  • @benitolopez4898
    @benitolopez4898  11 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hay que reconocer que Armstrong fue un sinvergüenza que se ampara en que todos lo hacen pero eso no justifica su comportamiento mafioso y miserable.

  • @brenwalsh9232
    @brenwalsh9232 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was Indurain the race leader during this TT? If so, why is he not wearing yellow?

  • @PeakPotential46
    @PeakPotential46 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually wonder how much did indurain put an average wattage in this race.

  • @DavidBogenhagen
    @DavidBogenhagen 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only two years Bjarn Riis had a 62 hermocrit! Dude, it as evolving but definitly on a smaller percentage of riders.

  • @Josenarayana1
    @Josenarayana1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Uno de LOS MAS GRANDES DE LA HISTORIA......

  • @MrQuiquenegro
    @MrQuiquenegro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grande Miguel 🏅👍🏽🇨🇱💎 y Corrías LIMPIO Not DOPING 🏆🚴🏻‍♂️🚴🏻‍♂️🚴🏻‍♂️🚴🏻‍♂️🚴🏻‍♂️

  • @bluelake7479
    @bluelake7479 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh dear, he's on
    epOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @josearinerotorrillas1077
    @josearinerotorrillas1077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Indurain, la fiera humana

  • @galenkehler
    @galenkehler 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We need more 60-80km TT in the modern TdF

  • @ac80577
    @ac80577 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Indurain was the best cronoman