Agreed. In the muggle world groundskeepers earn about 60% of US/UK average wage. However Hagrid's job was less in charge of grounds and more of a zoo keeper combined with social representative... all positions which often pay well above average. Toss in veternarian duties and 50 years of experience. Mix in game warden and hazard duty pay, such as delivering highly valuable packages that even Brinks would fail to deliver. Of course Hagrid started out as aprentice which was probably an unpaid job.
It’s never stated directly that he’s paid at all. I think it’s more likely that he takes a meager salary and has a deal that allows him living space and to keep some of the valuable supplies that he obtains in the forest. He also has to be spending a ton of money on alcohol and creatures. If anything, Hagrid is reckless with money and doesn’t view it as that important. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have so much unicorn tail hair. I’m not saying he doesn’t have a few liquid assets, but there’s not a chance that he’s just rolling in the galleons.
Another hint at Hagrid's wealth - he seems to spend a lot of time in 'the pub' and enjoys a drink or two. As someone who spent a lot of his youth in pubs, I know that the tab can add up! 😂 He also gambles. Given he seems to win a lot of these bets, it can also be assumed that he is skilled at gambling, giving him another 'income' - even if he just views it as a game.
not only that but it's safe to assume he at least drinks until buzzed, and can you imagine how much booze it would take to get a man Hagrid's size buzzed? He may as well be drinking for 3
@@ryantannar5301 I didn't even consider that. I assume he drinks Fire Whiskey because I don't think there's enough Butterbeer in the world - and spirits are more pricey than beer. God, imagine how much he drank after Aragog's funeral where he got drunk enough to pass out! 😃
I’d be more inclined to see that as a reason for him not to have saved as much as you might expect. He’ll be earning a modest salary and spending a lot of it down the pub! 😂 and with all the love in the world I don’t imagine he’s a very astute gambler either
@@1993Warbirds I forgot about that part. Given Hagrid passed out shortly before Slughorn gave Harry his memory of Tom Riddle, I have a whole new respect for Slughorn's tolerance! 😄
I've heard this theory before. Basically, Hagrid has been working at Hogwarts for many, many years, but pretty much finds his own food in the forest, or just eats at the school. He doesn't really want much in terms of "creature comforts". So....just add up years and years of pay, and no outlay. That means Hagrid is really Swagrid.
@@SakariWolf13 The grain massacres of 1682, which were just allegations, there was no proof. Yet the Wheat consortium believes the allegations to be true. They also have the backing of the Loaf-ians.
I thing Hagrid didn't care about money. He cared more about animals than anything else. It could be that he spent every penny on getting rare animals. There is also the thought of his father. I'm sure he got a fair bit from him. His mother probably didn't have any money as giants are more likely to live in the wild and get everything they want like Hagrid did. There was also the flying motorcycle that couldn't have been cheap. So as to if he had money I don't think he cared if he did or not.
@@jameshetherington1 hagrid is known to play games of cards at pubs. maybe he only acquires the creatures as a prize of those games. or they are rescues as we know he cares deeply for the creatures and hates seeing them in pain.
It strikes me as more likely that Hagrid was the sort who simply didn't think money was terribly important, and had access to rare resources by way of close association to magical animals and working with his hands. A modest income untouched over time would yield enough to gift an ultra rare white owl, but the other resources he had on hand were gathered from the dark forest.
I think it’s true that he’s saved most of his salary but I don’t see Dumbledore showing him favouritism with an especially high salary, I think he’d be fair to all the teachers and overall I think it’s likely to be a fair but modest salary. And I don’t see Hagrid running any sidelines in dealing in unicorn hair, creatures or anything else. He likes a simple life and just doesn’t really care much about money. And although he doesn’t buy fancy things I can see him spending a fair bit of time in the three broomsticks and the hogs head on his evenings off, so he’s spending on beers and the odd card game too I bet haha (like when he won the dragon egg). So I think he has a fair bit put by, but certainly not riches!
Hagrid explicitly says he's "in the trade" of dealing with hard-to-get or even illegal (dragons) critters. He's raising, catching and selling such critters on the "black" or maybe "grey" market. Dumbledore wouldn't care as long as Hagrid keeps it reasonable. He might even see Hagrid as a successor to his old friend Newt Scamander.
The one thing the Wizarding world does not seem to have, is a social security-network. If you get the cold shoulder and your wand is confiscated or sth, you really are on your own and helpless very soon. You kind of need to be a hustler to some degree to survive in a world like that
I like to think that Dumbledore secretly doubled his salary just because he knew he innocent and wanted to help him by the means of being able to provide him with enough wealth for if he was to retire/get married, he would never have to worry about money ever again. And considering he is half giant, he will be alive for a very long time.
I'd say Hagrid could be rich if he sold all the unicorn hairs and other creature parts he collects in the forbidden forest but he doesn't sell them so not liquid / financially rich
I suppose Ollivanders has to get those cores to make wands from somewhere. Maybe Hagrid is a supplier of beast materials from time to time, whenever he's in town for a pint. Would save the trouble of going all the way back to Gringotts to withdraw some drinking money.
I think this might be a misunderstanding of wealth. While being frugal and saving over many years can make you very comfortable, at the level of those wizarding families you have probably made several clever investments and have mailbox money coming from every direction. When you hear about obscene amounts of wealth that rich people have its not like they have a bank account somewhere with that number in it. Its an estimation of what they could have if they liquidated everything. Properties, businesses, shares in god knows what. Hagrid doesn't strike me as a shrewd Invester. More like he could have hoarded a small fortune. All of the respect and privileges you pointed out I could write off to his relationship with the headmaster.
True. I have no doubt that families like the Malfoys have plenty of passive income from various investments and collecting rent from their vast landholdings.
Never heard this theory, never gave it any thought before. But he (the content creator) made enough valid points that you really can't discount the idea that Hagrid is, if not "rich", is at least comfortably well off.
Hagrid should go into business with Ollivander by becoming the supplier of his unicorn hair. He could become a millionaire by selling the stuff to Ollivander and other wand makers.
You forgot to mention the handful of times he happens to win something big during cards be it money or extra magical creatures and what happens with the magical creatures when he's done taking care of them
Mythologically, Giants are supposed to have wealth in terms of real estate and rare magical artifacts. We don't know what Hagrid's giantess mother brought to her relationship with his father? Plus we don't know what kind of wizard his father was, he may have been a curse breaker for Gringots, hence their familiarity, and he may have been paid a share of any treasure from the tombs and vaults he broke into?
As an essential dropout I don't think Hagrid's pay would be that great, once he was learned up a bit his pay would increase, but less we forget, Hagrid has a bit of a gambling problem as well.
This makes sense. Also he seems like the type that wont throw away any money he was given or earned and would just put it all away in savings even if he hates money because he is a very greatful person and once he started saving he couldnt stop. Also he might hate spending money on himself. Mabe he wanted to buy the dark forest but then realized he already is free to take care of it so then he kept saving
Another hint at his wealth is how familiar he is with the currency. Let's be real, 17 Sickles in a Galleon and 29 Knuts in a Sickle is an absolute mess to calculate. And yet, Hagrid seems to have no trouble with it despite not exactly presenting himself as the sharpest tool in the shed. Almost as if he handles money quite often
In the wizarding world, I wouldn't consider the concept of having or giving someone a wallet to be a sign of being money minded, mainly because they don't use paper currency. Because of that, a wallet would be kinda pointless outside of housing things like ids and the like.
It would have been funny if it turned out that Hagrid was financially richer than the Malfoys. But if that was the case, he probably could have saved Buckbeak from being executed. Even if Hagrid didn't realize he was rich or didn't care, you'd think word would have gotten out that he was loaded and people would have been hounding him for money. I don't think this theory is true but there could have been a lot of fun moments in the books if it was true.
I have to give a different perspective, to the like the unicorn hair and venum, hagrid i assume has a good relationship to most in the forest, not just the giant spider. Hence why the money doesn't matter to him.
What if Nicholas Flemel didn't destroy the Philosopher's Stone but instead gave it to Hagrid. I think if the two ever met, he might have taken a shine this half giant's humble and upright persona. The fact that unlike other people, Hagrid isn't greedy and he does not desire power or immortality. He, Gwap and Fang could live for centuries by drinking the elixir of life and living comfortably with the gold the stone creates.
I agree, probably Hagrid sells and buys in the black market. Maybe that black market is in Nocturn Alley (*cough *cough, hence why he rescued Harry from it, once)
This is such a generous theory. Hagrid doesn’t live a complex lifestyle, but he does have several other expenses that you do not mention. He acquires multiple magical creatures throughout the series that could not have been cheap. Furthermore, Hagrid drinks quite a lot and definitely spends quite a bit of money at multiple spots drinking. I think Hagrid was more like Dobby in the sense that he wouldn’t have asked for a lot. He viewed things for a their practical purpose as opposed to what they would could provide him monetarily, ie the unicorn hair. Dumbledore badly needed Slughorn to come to Hogwarts and still provided what Slughorn considered a meager salary. I just don’t see it.
If Hagrid was rich, then Dumbledore must have been even richer. Not only did he have a Hogwart's salary for decades, with room and board provided; I assume he also made money in other ways in other roles, supreme mugwump, chief warlock of the wizengamot, his scholarly articles, on and on. So question-- where did all of Dumbledore's money go after he passed away? We know what items the Golden Trio received in the will, but what happened to all the rest of his stuff and his cash?
Knowing Dumbledore. He probably had a bunch of it donated to places like St. Mungos. Also very likely is that he bequeathed a large portion into Hogwarts, as has been stated before that students of little means (I.e. orphans) the school funds their supplies and the like.
He probably gave a large chunk to charity including the provision for students who couldn't afford the school supplies. He probably also gave some to Aberforth
Well hagrids father was also a wizard, could it be possible the pa was a pureblood and had money saved up? Money that hagrid couldve inherited when his father passed away? I think that is very possible
Another channel covered the same topic quite some time ago. They also believe he has a lot of money. That channel brought up pretty much everything you did in this video...except for Hagrid having a connection with black market creatures. I found that to be quite an interesting idea.
It's like the old man who lives in the country story the old man's busted up has used overalls in a busted up truck but he's got the money to buy the entire town 10 times over
I like all of it though the venom thing makes less sense to me. he could talk, and they were friends. You wouldn't sell your friends organs just because they're valuable, would you? Well most people I assume and hope they wouldn't but kind of the same concept I don't think he would mostly for that but probably let Slughorn because Hagrid knew it could help people or something. But idk still a great theory.
I think it's an absolute. Hagrid could perform magic with his umbrella (in which his wand was hidden). As we well know, a broken wand doesn't work....Ron's wand in CoS....Harry's wand in DH. And we know that the Elder Wand CAN repairs broken wands....Harry's wand at the end of DH. Ergo...logic dictates that DD MUST have repaired Hagrid's wand at some point.
Yes I believe Hagrid is wealthy, HOWEVER, only through his Salary & occasional Gambling success. I don't think he is involved in black market dealings or selling things like Acromantula Venom/Unicorn Hairs.
Im glad Harry was smart with his money for being his age and being rich I'm glad he didn't go and spend it the only thing I wish he would have done is buy the latest broom to keep up with it he could of been the best at catching the snitch
i am not surprised hagrid would have a lot of money. seeing how humble he lives. house on the land of the school, his own garden , no new clothes or anything fancy like that, old stuff in his house that he has grown to love, if something is broken he would fix it himself with resources he got himself as well, hunting and foraging so no need to buy groceries. without those expenses his salary would not go to waste either and would just pile up in his vault. plus the raise he got that doubled the salary when he took the post as professor for care of magical creatures in the third year harry was there. what use is luxury items for a man who has pretty much everything he could want. (edit) as some have mentioned in the comments, hagrid is known to frequent pubs and bars for a drink and a gamble. but i dont think he would go out of his way to go into debt just for a couple drinks and game of cards. sure he can drink, but it wouldnt be nearly enough to drain his finances in my opinion. as for the creatures, he is also known to have a great deal of passion and care for the creatures he takes care of. most of which i dont think he actually bought. i think most of them would have been either won in a game, belong to the school or injured creatures he nurses back to health. i think he would spend the money rather on someone else for them to enjoy. seeing how rough harry had it, he wanted to show harry that there are good people out there and that hes one of his friends he can count on.
If Hagrid’s so rich, then why did he have us collect the ingredients HE needed for his Dragon-tonic using OUR money in those damned Gringotts sections in the first PS1 game?!
I'm surprised hagrid isn't a big spender I only say tht cause of his love of magical creatures so I'm surprised he didn't buy a lot of magical creatures and asked Dumbledore to build some kind of magical creatures zoo thing And I wouldn't be surprised tht he didint already sell and collect tht venom through out the years plus we know he went to the black market connect so UK he gots the money
A lot of the Chinese translation fanfics have this as a plot point of hagrid being secretly rich. I read one where the fics transmigrated mc nearly fainted in shock that hagrid had a blanket made of unicorn tail hair. In canon hagrid being rich makes sense because of all the material he gets like the unicorn tail hair mention in the actual books. If im correct unicorn tail hair is supposed to be like 10 gallons for a single strand of 1 foot of hair.
I would also like to add that he was friends with none other than Newt Scamander so who knows how many jobs he helped him with over the 40 years he was an adult, it would not surprise me if Hagrid took his summers and helped Newt with certain Fantastical Beats
I've always assumed Hagrid is just a prolific gambler. He lives poor because he never has wealth for long , but every time he has a big score he makes the most of it. He is in the unique position of being able to do this without it hurting his life at all due to all the reasons in the video. He doesn't really NEED money so there's not really anything wrong with gambling it all away. He's a nice guy so when he scores he makes sure to use some of it to make the people he loves happy.
There’s an old saying “Rich screams, Wealth Whispers” Forget social media, statistically most millionaires live below their means and invest/save for decades to accumulate wealth - Hagrid fits the bill
The real question is how Gringot's Bank works. Modern banks loan out their depositors money. Gringots seems to just provide security for gold. The depositors must be paying the bank for the storage.
if he Was involved with black market dealings. i feel like hagrid wouldn't just be a "skilled collector of rare beasts & amazing haggler" he would absolutely be the don of the underworld. if he's that friendly with a gigantic man eating spider, imagine what other kinds of terrifying creatures he;s buddies with. That is a man you don't mess with. no one wants an angry spider coming after them for revenge, with millions of varying sizes of children they could send out in recon missions, or assassination. also also, he survived azkaban. i feel like that's one of those places you get sent to and either already have the reputation to survive, or you build one quickly on the inside or end up dead. plus he didn't seem super beat up after getting out, implying he was fighting for his life in there or anything
Based on these assumptions and cost of living/animal expenses, using a basic compound interest calculator we can assume Hagrid would have just over 55$ million saved up. A lot of money but nowhere near what we can expect the wealthiest houses to be at (250-400$ million in gold and assets)
The real question is not if he is secretly wealthy but the REAL question is (since I've learned that hagrid is half giant) "How hagrid's dad did you-know -what with his mother. How could a 5' 3" inch tall wizard do it with a giantess tall as 20ft. I mean how did the logistics work. I can't imagine how it'd be like putting a needle through a glass bottle. IDK. Did the giantess even feel it?
I think we can safely assume Hagrid makes at least as much as Albus offered Dobby. That's 10 Galleons a week. So, let's do the math. 52 weeks x 10 = 520. 520 x 48 years = 24,960 Galleons. That is a verifiable hoard worthy of a dragon's egg... That's assuming he only made what Dobby was offered... That also doesn't account for any compound interest. If we do the math for compound interest over 48 years at 10 Galleons a week, assuming about 7% interest, we come to 169,826 Galleons. If I was doing exactly what I loved in life, and had that kinda coin... I would be that happy nonchalant too. When we convert his wealth into USD, it's not as much. We're looking at about $1,127,644.64. Wizarding money seems to go a lot further in the wizarding world than Money in the muggle world. Remember, this is assuming he only made what was offered to Dobby.
only 1 key part, i dont remember if it was harrys key or the galthvort key he had there, but if harrys key i can see the goblins beeing aware that haggried was comming to collect the item in question and we know that you cant use polyjuice potion on a giant or half giant because it do not work.
I would think that being Groundskeeper would have one of the highest salaries out there, simply for the risk the Groundskeeper would take with dealing with dangerous magical creatures on a daily basis. Risk goes up, price goes up, no matter that Hagrid is half-Giant! Then there's also the Professor salary he earns for Care of Magical Creatures. If not crazy wealthy, I am sure he's pretty damned comfortable. I don't think that Snape, or later Professor McGonagall ever lowered his salary after Dumbledore passed.
The gifts and the animals he buys are for me the most compelling proof that he might be rich. But maybe not a vault full of gold but easy access to materials he can sell or trade to obtain those objects. Salary, we do not know and if you told me he worked for room and board I would easily believe this, also Dumbledore is very practical and manipulative why would he pay more if he doesn't need to. He keeps slaves in the kitchen, so morally not bothered that a salary is required.
I don't know if Hagrid is rich unless they have a wizarding version of direct deposit, although I don't remember if the books mention if gringotts offers a a savings branch where you get interest.
Just use Dobby's salary as an example. 520 galleons per year, for 50 years is 26000 galleons. $6.64/galleon means he's got a $172k(USD) nest egg. Not rich, but not poor either.
There’s also his complete and seemingly effortless conversion of currency that uses two completely different PRIME factors for exchange rates. I ask you, off the top of your head, if I hand over 3 galleons for something that costs 2 galleons and 12 knuts, what the change due back in sickles and knuts?
I always thought that Dumbledore probably funneled or gave Hagrid the rights to one of his many patents. Say, on dragons blood. And then yes he probably did a lot and I mean a lot of black market dealings.
His mum was a giantess, so let's consider her size for a moment. Being married to his dad, one would think their home had to be of considerable size for her to live in, too. Sounds like a rather hefty price tag on that.. unless it was a generational home also? Perhaps a castle would afford her height? Hmmmm 😅
Hagrid was also the most powerful wizard, even more so more powerful then voldamort and albus even with the god wand. He is the only wizard in the movies to complete a spell without saying a single word.
@theophiled wrong. There are plenty of instances where they already said the spell and kept it going. Hagrid is the only wizard to do a spell without ever saying a word. And without a wand.
No evidence Dumbledore gave him a raise, just stick to the facts - he routinely deals on the black market, is casual with expensive materials, has saved 50 years of salary and he gave Harry expensive gifts. Gringott's is interesting but too many explanations to presume any. No way he's richer than the Malfoys or Lestranges. He's prosperous and generous but not mega-rich.
Hagrid should have been wealthy but it's unlikely he'd ever press for raises. He had no desire to profit from his position. Had he done so, I'm sure the body and blood of dead unicorns alone would have set him up nicely. I doubt he'd have had an account at Gringotts, since Hogwarts was safer. Somehow I think that his hut might have had most of his salary tucked away somewhere, in the walls and beneath the floors. As for Hedwig, I'd guess at least 100 galleons. Hagrid would appreciate the more exotic animal more than galleons. Other owls were 10 or 15 galleons but she would have come from America. Had she been a male she'd have been more valuable since there is more white. That's why males were used in the movie.
I don’t think Hagrid is saving his money. It’s been implied that he is a massive drunk, and it takes a lot more for him to get drunk. I don’t know about you, but I have known plenty of drunks that will spend their whole paycheck at the bar.
You forgot to mention the double salary when Hagrid takes the post as professor for Care of Magical Creatures in Harry's third year.
Lol and? That would hardly make him rich.
Agreed. In the muggle world groundskeepers earn about 60% of US/UK average wage. However Hagrid's job was less in charge of grounds and more of a zoo keeper combined with social representative... all positions which often pay well above average. Toss in veternarian duties and 50 years of experience. Mix in game warden and hazard duty pay, such as delivering highly valuable packages that even Brinks would fail to deliver. Of course Hagrid started out as aprentice which was probably an unpaid job.
No guarantee that happened
It’s never stated directly that he’s paid at all. I think it’s more likely that he takes a meager salary and has a deal that allows him living space and to keep some of the valuable supplies that he obtains in the forest. He also has to be spending a ton of money on alcohol and creatures. If anything, Hagrid is reckless with money and doesn’t view it as that important. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have so much unicorn tail hair. I’m not saying he doesn’t have a few liquid assets, but there’s not a chance that he’s just rolling in the galleons.
Damn 1 whole year added to roughly 50 years he spoke about, good catch
Another hint at Hagrid's wealth - he seems to spend a lot of time in 'the pub' and enjoys a drink or two.
As someone who spent a lot of his youth in pubs, I know that the tab can add up! 😂
He also gambles. Given he seems to win a lot of these bets, it can also be assumed that he is skilled at gambling, giving him another 'income' - even if he just views it as a game.
not only that but it's safe to assume he at least drinks until buzzed, and can you imagine how much booze it would take to get a man Hagrid's size buzzed? He may as well be drinking for 3
@@ryantannar5301 I didn't even consider that. I assume he drinks Fire Whiskey because I don't think there's enough Butterbeer in the world - and spirits are more pricey than beer.
God, imagine how much he drank after Aragog's funeral where he got drunk enough to pass out! 😃
I’d be more inclined to see that as a reason for him not to have saved as much as you might expect. He’ll be earning a modest salary and spending a lot of it down the pub! 😂 and with all the love in the world I don’t imagine he’s a very astute gambler either
@@benjihound993 Harry does egg them on by constantly refilling the cups via magic.
@@1993Warbirds I forgot about that part.
Given Hagrid passed out shortly before Slughorn gave Harry his memory of Tom Riddle, I have a whole new respect for Slughorn's tolerance! 😄
I've heard this theory before. Basically, Hagrid has been working at Hogwarts for many, many years, but pretty much finds his own food in the forest, or just eats at the school. He doesn't really want much in terms of "creature comforts". So....just add up years and years of pay, and no outlay. That means Hagrid is really Swagrid.
SCB? J and Ben?
@@doll9340yes
@Alwarin1 What keyed me in was calling him Swagrid lol
why did you call him that :( im never gonna call him anything else now
@@doll9340 Credit goes to SCB
I assumed hagrid had between 1 galleon and 957,888,473,901 galleons. I like to have a wide margin for error.
What does bread have to apologise for? And who is demanding said apologies?
@@SakariWolf13 The grain massacres of 1682, which were just allegations, there was no proof. Yet the Wheat consortium believes the allegations to be true. They also have the backing of the Loaf-ians.
@@SakariWolf13 People with fake gluten allergies.
I thing Hagrid didn't care about money. He cared more about animals than anything else. It could be that he spent every penny on getting rare animals. There is also the thought of his father. I'm sure he got a fair bit from him. His mother probably didn't have any money as giants are more likely to live in the wild and get everything they want like Hagrid did. There was also the flying motorcycle that couldn't have been cheap. So as to if he had money I don't think he cared if he did or not.
Well, we should all know how he acquired that bike
I would think Hagrid would be allowed to learn Magic and perform Magic once Kingsley and Hermione become Minister of Magic.
Love your voice and videos... so calming, thanks a lot for all the hard work mate!
Hargid pays a fortune for his creatures. That's how he spent his money
Did they though? Seems like most he either won over a game of cards or belong to the school/Dumbledore would have given him money for classes
@@jameshetherington1 hagrid is known to play games of cards at pubs. maybe he only acquires the creatures as a prize of those games. or they are rescues as we know he cares deeply for the creatures and hates seeing them in pain.
It strikes me as more likely that Hagrid was the sort who simply didn't think money was terribly important, and had access to rare resources by way of close association to magical animals and working with his hands. A modest income untouched over time would yield enough to gift an ultra rare white owl, but the other resources he had on hand were gathered from the dark forest.
I think it’s true that he’s saved most of his salary but I don’t see Dumbledore showing him favouritism with an especially high salary, I think he’d be fair to all the teachers and overall I think it’s likely to be a fair but modest salary. And I don’t see Hagrid running any sidelines in dealing in unicorn hair, creatures or anything else. He likes a simple life and just doesn’t really care much about money. And although he doesn’t buy fancy things I can see him spending a fair bit of time in the three broomsticks and the hogs head on his evenings off, so he’s spending on beers and the odd card game too I bet haha (like when he won the dragon egg). So I think he has a fair bit put by, but certainly not riches!
The unicorn hairs are still a valuable asset that he has avaiable. Part of his «net worth»
@@AlldaylongRock Add in the magical creatures that ONLY trust him to that list as well.
My question is why isn’t Fluffy mentioned again. The three headed dog doesn’t die in the philosopher’s stone.
Hagrid explicitly says he's "in the trade" of dealing with hard-to-get or even illegal (dragons) critters. He's raising, catching and selling such critters on the "black" or maybe "grey" market. Dumbledore wouldn't care as long as Hagrid keeps it reasonable. He might even see Hagrid as a successor to his old friend Newt Scamander.
Let's not forget the Potter wealth being added to by the Black family wealth, as Harry was Sirius' heir.
The one thing the Wizarding world does not seem to have, is a social security-network. If you get the cold shoulder and your wand is confiscated or sth, you really are on your own and helpless very soon. You kind of need to be a hustler to some degree to survive in a world like that
I like to think that Dumbledore secretly doubled his salary just because he knew he innocent and wanted to help him by the means of being able to provide him with enough wealth for if he was to retire/get married, he would never have to worry about money ever again. And considering he is half giant, he will be alive for a very long time.
I'd say Hagrid could be rich if he sold all the unicorn hairs and other creature parts he collects in the forbidden forest but he doesn't sell them so not liquid / financially rich
I suppose Ollivanders has to get those cores to make wands from somewhere. Maybe Hagrid is a supplier of beast materials from time to time, whenever he's in town for a pint. Would save the trouble of going all the way back to Gringotts to withdraw some drinking money.
unlike slughorn lol
I think this might be a misunderstanding of wealth. While being frugal and saving over many years can make you very comfortable, at the level of those wizarding families you have probably made several clever investments and have mailbox money coming from every direction. When you hear about obscene amounts of wealth that rich people have its not like they have a bank account somewhere with that number in it. Its an estimation of what they could have if they liquidated everything. Properties, businesses, shares in god knows what. Hagrid doesn't strike me as a shrewd Invester. More like he could have hoarded a small fortune. All of the respect and privileges you pointed out I could write off to his relationship with the headmaster.
True. I have no doubt that families like the Malfoys have plenty of passive income from various investments and collecting rent from their vast landholdings.
Man you could just sell the galleons as gold to get filthy rich.
Never heard this theory, never gave it any thought before. But he (the content creator) made enough valid points that you really can't discount the idea that Hagrid is, if not "rich", is at least comfortably well off.
Hagrid should go into business with Ollivander by becoming the supplier of his unicorn hair. He could become a millionaire by selling the stuff to Ollivander and other wand makers.
I was skeptical up until the birthday gifts, that is real.
He spends money on what he wants to spend money on
You forgot to mention the handful of times he happens to win something big during cards be it money or extra magical creatures and what happens with the magical creatures when he's done taking care of them
Hagrid really said "Come off tour give her 20 thou for nothing
Cause it's nothing to me I'm something to see"
I wonder if hagrid got 2 salaries after he became teacher as well
Probably, double the work gets double the pay
Hagrid having the Unicorn hairs and using them to tie things is like Someone having a sack of Saffron and saying they use it to make Tie Dye shirts...
Mythologically, Giants are supposed to have wealth in terms of real estate and rare magical artifacts. We don't know what Hagrid's giantess mother brought to her relationship with his father? Plus we don't know what kind of wizard his father was, he may have been a curse breaker for Gringots, hence their familiarity, and he may have been paid a share of any treasure from the tombs and vaults he broke into?
One thing is the physical wealth in money, another, is in the people you keep as company of friends
Hagrid might have been the only child of his father, who died when he was a child, his money could have come from his father.
As an essential dropout I don't think Hagrid's pay would be that great, once he was learned up a bit his pay would increase, but less we forget, Hagrid has a bit of a gambling problem as well.
Gambling is a very expensive hobby my friend
This makes sense. Also he seems like the type that wont throw away any money he was given or earned and would just put it all away in savings even if he hates money because he is a very greatful person and once he started saving he couldnt stop. Also he might hate spending money on himself. Mabe he wanted to buy the dark forest but then realized he already is free to take care of it so then he kept saving
Another hint at his wealth is how familiar he is with the currency. Let's be real, 17 Sickles in a Galleon and 29 Knuts in a Sickle is an absolute mess to calculate. And yet, Hagrid seems to have no trouble with it despite not exactly presenting himself as the sharpest tool in the shed. Almost as if he handles money quite often
In the wizarding world, I wouldn't consider the concept of having or giving someone a wallet to be a sign of being money minded, mainly because they don't use paper currency. Because of that, a wallet would be kinda pointless outside of housing things like ids and the like.
I've seen this theory on The Super Carlin Brothers. They now like to call him Swagrid,
It would have been funny if it turned out that Hagrid was financially richer than the Malfoys. But if that was the case, he probably could have saved Buckbeak from being executed. Even if Hagrid didn't realize he was rich or didn't care, you'd think word would have gotten out that he was loaded and people would have been hounding him for money. I don't think this theory is true but there could have been a lot of fun moments in the books if it was true.
He couldn't. He may have wealth, but not connections, and Ministry's view on half-breeds is quite racist.
I have to give a different perspective, to the like the unicorn hair and venum, hagrid i assume has a good relationship to most in the forest, not just the giant spider. Hence why the money doesn't matter to him.
I agree with your assessment of the dark market dealing angle being a clue. That is a good catch.
What if Nicholas Flemel didn't destroy the Philosopher's Stone but instead gave it to Hagrid. I think if the two ever met, he might have taken a shine this half giant's humble and upright persona. The fact that unlike other people, Hagrid isn't greedy and he does not desire power or immortality. He, Gwap and Fang could live for centuries by drinking the elixir of life and living comfortably with the gold the stone creates.
I agree, probably Hagrid sells and buys in the black market. Maybe that black market is in Nocturn Alley (*cough *cough, hence why he rescued Harry from it, once)
Hagrid has a penchant for drinking and gambling. That is where his money goes.
And being half-giant, he can drink A LOT.
One issue Hagrid wasn't a teacher the majority of the time. He was basically a zoo keeper. Probably about 54 grand a year.
This is such a generous theory. Hagrid doesn’t live a complex lifestyle, but he does have several other expenses that you do not mention. He acquires multiple magical creatures throughout the series that could not have been cheap. Furthermore, Hagrid drinks quite a lot and definitely spends quite a bit of money at multiple spots drinking. I think Hagrid was more like Dobby in the sense that he wouldn’t have asked for a lot. He viewed things for a their practical purpose as opposed to what they would could provide him monetarily, ie the unicorn hair. Dumbledore badly needed Slughorn to come to Hogwarts and still provided what Slughorn considered a meager salary. I just don’t see it.
If Hagrid was rich, then Dumbledore must have been even richer. Not only did he have a Hogwart's salary for decades, with room and board provided; I assume he also made money in other ways in other roles, supreme mugwump, chief warlock of the wizengamot, his scholarly articles, on and on. So question-- where did all of Dumbledore's money go after he passed away? We know what items the Golden Trio received in the will, but what happened to all the rest of his stuff and his cash?
Knowing Dumbledore. He probably had a bunch of it donated to places like St. Mungos. Also very likely is that he bequeathed a large portion into Hogwarts, as has been stated before that students of little means (I.e. orphans) the school funds their supplies and the like.
He probably gave a large chunk to charity including the provision for students who couldn't afford the school supplies. He probably also gave some to Aberforth
Well hagrids father was also a wizard, could it be possible the pa was a pureblood and had money saved up? Money that hagrid couldve inherited when his father passed away? I think that is very possible
Another channel covered the same topic quite some time ago. They also believe he has a lot of money.
That channel brought up pretty much everything you did in this video...except for Hagrid having a connection with black market creatures. I found that to be quite an interesting idea.
It's like the old man who lives in the country story the old man's busted up has used overalls in a busted up truck but he's got the money to buy the entire town 10 times over
I like all of it though the venom thing makes less sense to me. he could talk, and they were friends. You wouldn't sell your friends organs just because they're valuable, would you? Well most people I assume and hope they wouldn't but kind of the same concept I don't think he would mostly for that but probably let Slughorn because Hagrid knew it could help people or something. But idk still a great theory.
Was there ever a video asking "Did Dumbledoor repair Hagrid's wand?" Just seems he was able to use magic better during 'Half Blood Prince'.
I think it's an absolute. Hagrid could perform magic with his umbrella (in which his wand was hidden). As we well know, a broken wand doesn't work....Ron's wand in CoS....Harry's wand in DH. And we know that the Elder Wand CAN repairs broken wands....Harry's wand at the end of DH.
Ergo...logic dictates that DD MUST have repaired Hagrid's wand at some point.
Purchasing rare animals especially from black market. That can't be cheap.
Yes I believe Hagrid is wealthy, HOWEVER, only through his Salary & occasional Gambling success. I don't think he is involved in black market dealings or selling things like Acromantula Venom/Unicorn Hairs.
The Carlin Brothers did this theory like, years ago. Lol
Yea I have a hard time watching content I've already seen just reworded or with some different evidence...
Im glad Harry was smart with his money for being his age and being rich I'm glad he didn't go and spend it the only thing I wish he would have done is buy the latest broom to keep up with it he could of been the best at catching the snitch
i am not surprised hagrid would have a lot of money. seeing how humble he lives. house on the land of the school, his own garden , no new clothes or anything fancy like that, old stuff in his house that he has grown to love, if something is broken he would fix it himself with resources he got himself as well, hunting and foraging so no need to buy groceries. without those expenses his salary would not go to waste either and would just pile up in his vault. plus the raise he got that doubled the salary when he took the post as professor for care of magical creatures in the third year harry was there. what use is luxury items for a man who has pretty much everything he could want.
(edit) as some have mentioned in the comments, hagrid is known to frequent pubs and bars for a drink and a gamble. but i dont think he would go out of his way to go into debt just for a couple drinks and game of cards. sure he can drink, but it wouldnt be nearly enough to drain his finances in my opinion. as for the creatures, he is also known to have a great deal of passion and care for the creatures he takes care of. most of which i dont think he actually bought. i think most of them would have been either won in a game, belong to the school or injured creatures he nurses back to health.
i think he would spend the money rather on someone else for them to enjoy. seeing how rough harry had it, he wanted to show harry that there are good people out there and that hes one of his friends he can count on.
I remember this theory from SCB. I really love their videos but I hate that they're being sponsored by BetterHelp
My boy Hagrid be getting around 😅😅😂
If Hagrid’s so rich, then why did he have us collect the ingredients HE needed for his Dragon-tonic using OUR money in those damned Gringotts sections in the first PS1 game?!
You don't stay rich by spending you own money
Kind of odd that Hagrid would give Harry a wallet, seeing as how wizard society doesn't seem to have paper money.
You still have to keep your galleons somewhere.
@ceu160193 You put coins in your wallet?
@@0manoscar Well, wizard world doesn't accept credit cards yet.
Another amazing video! Glad to hear about Haggord again^^. As a drinker, tabs can get up there
I'm surprised hagrid isn't a big spender I only say tht cause of his love of magical creatures so I'm surprised he didn't buy a lot of magical creatures and asked Dumbledore to build some kind of magical creatures zoo thing And I wouldn't be surprised tht he didint already sell and collect tht venom through out the years plus we know he went to the black market connect so UK he gots the money
A lot of the Chinese translation fanfics have this as a plot point of hagrid being secretly rich. I read one where the fics transmigrated mc nearly fainted in shock that hagrid had a blanket made of unicorn tail hair. In canon hagrid being rich makes sense because of all the material he gets like the unicorn tail hair mention in the actual books. If im correct unicorn tail hair is supposed to be like 10 gallons for a single strand of 1 foot of hair.
I would also like to add that he was friends with none other than Newt Scamander so who knows how many jobs he helped him with over the 40 years he was an adult, it would not surprise me if Hagrid took his summers and helped Newt with certain Fantastical Beats
Hagrid loves his lifestyle and also considers it bad manners to mention his wealth or lack of wealth..
I've always assumed Hagrid is just a prolific gambler. He lives poor because he never has wealth for long , but every time he has a big score he makes the most of it. He is in the unique position of being able to do this without it hurting his life at all due to all the reasons in the video. He doesn't really NEED money so there's not really anything wrong with gambling it all away. He's a nice guy so when he scores he makes sure to use some of it to make the people he loves happy.
There’s an old saying
“Rich screams, Wealth Whispers”
Forget social media, statistically most millionaires live below their means and invest/save for decades to accumulate wealth - Hagrid fits the bill
That’d be an interesting video: who was the skull wearing a crown in the vault. 🤔
The real question is how Gringot's Bank works. Modern banks loan out their depositors money. Gringots seems to just provide security for gold. The depositors must be paying the bank for the storage.
"compounds" in what? Is gringotts offering interest on deposits? Is there a stock or bond market for wizarding businesses?
Very interesting theory. It is pleasant to think that Hagrid has plenty of money.
its 2 am and im watching this.. i guess its better than creepin on some random summer beach album
dont forget he pays for Premium in his Motorcycle🏍
if he Was involved with black market dealings. i feel like hagrid wouldn't just be a "skilled collector of rare beasts & amazing haggler" he would absolutely be the don of the underworld. if he's that friendly with a gigantic man eating spider, imagine what other kinds of terrifying creatures he;s buddies with. That is a man you don't mess with. no one wants an angry spider coming after them for revenge, with millions of varying sizes of children they could send out in recon missions, or assassination. also also, he survived azkaban. i feel like that's one of those places you get sent to and either already have the reputation to survive, or you build one quickly on the inside or end up dead. plus he didn't seem super beat up after getting out, implying he was fighting for his life in there or anything
Based on these assumptions and cost of living/animal expenses, using a basic compound interest calculator we can assume Hagrid would have just over 55$ million saved up. A lot of money but nowhere near what we can expect the wealthiest houses to be at (250-400$ million in gold and assets)
The real question is not if he is secretly wealthy but the REAL question is (since I've learned that hagrid is half giant) "How hagrid's dad did you-know -what with his mother. How could a 5' 3" inch tall wizard do it with a giantess tall as 20ft. I mean how did the logistics work. I can't imagine how it'd be like putting a needle through a glass bottle. IDK. Did the giantess even feel it?
I would also think that hagrid would get paid more because of the potentially dangerous situations of his job, (especially since he can't use magic)
I think we can safely assume Hagrid makes at least as much as Albus offered Dobby. That's 10 Galleons a week. So, let's do the math. 52 weeks x 10 = 520. 520 x 48 years = 24,960 Galleons. That is a verifiable hoard worthy of a dragon's egg...
That's assuming he only made what Dobby was offered... That also doesn't account for any compound interest. If we do the math for compound interest over 48 years at 10 Galleons a week, assuming about 7% interest, we come to 169,826 Galleons.
If I was doing exactly what I loved in life, and had that kinda coin... I would be that happy nonchalant too.
When we convert his wealth into USD, it's not as much. We're looking at about $1,127,644.64. Wizarding money seems to go a lot further in the wizarding world than Money in the muggle world.
Remember, this is assuming he only made what was offered to Dobby.
Dude he spent it all on beer and magical creature treats
only 1 key part, i dont remember if it was harrys key or the galthvort key he had there, but if harrys key i can see the goblins beeing aware that haggried was comming to collect the item in question and we know that you cant use polyjuice potion on a giant or half giant because it do not work.
I would think that being Groundskeeper would have one of the highest salaries out there, simply for the risk the Groundskeeper would take with dealing with dangerous magical creatures on a daily basis. Risk goes up, price goes up, no matter that Hagrid is half-Giant! Then there's also the Professor salary he earns for Care of Magical Creatures. If not crazy wealthy, I am sure he's pretty damned comfortable. I don't think that Snape, or later Professor McGonagall ever lowered his salary after Dumbledore passed.
Yeah that's right, someone call Madame Maxime and show'er what she missed.
The gifts and the animals he buys are for me the most compelling proof that he might be rich. But maybe not a vault full of gold but easy access to materials he can sell or trade to obtain those objects. Salary, we do not know and if you told me he worked for room and board I would easily believe this, also Dumbledore is very practical and manipulative why would he pay more if he doesn't need to. He keeps slaves in the kitchen, so morally not bothered that a salary is required.
I don't know if Hagrid is rich unless they have a wizarding version of direct deposit, although I don't remember if the books mention if gringotts offers a a savings branch where you get interest.
Just use Dobby's salary as an example. 520 galleons per year, for 50 years is 26000 galleons. $6.64/galleon means he's got a $172k(USD) nest egg. Not rich, but not poor either.
Harry Potter economics cannot be taken seriously. Putting stuff in a vault is not "investing" it.
Hagrid probably didn't notice how much money he had
The whole idea behind having money in a wizard community still confuses me.
There’s also his complete and seemingly effortless conversion of currency that uses two completely different PRIME factors for exchange rates. I ask you, off the top of your head, if I hand over 3 galleons for something that costs 2 galleons and 12 knuts, what the change due back in sickles and knuts?
Considering that the school owns slaves who provide everything that the staff could ever want, all the staff should be rich.
So what you're saying is that Hagrid is the Ron Swanson of the Potterverse
I always thought that Dumbledore probably funneled or gave Hagrid the rights to one of his many patents. Say, on dragons blood.
And then yes he probably did a lot and I mean a lot of black market dealings.
His mum was a giantess, so let's consider her size for a moment. Being married to his dad, one would think their home had to be of considerable size for her to live in, too. Sounds like a rather hefty price tag on that.. unless it was a generational home also? Perhaps a castle would afford her height? Hmmmm 😅
Hagrid was also the most powerful wizard, even more so more powerful then voldamort and albus even with the god wand. He is the only wizard in the movies to complete a spell without saying a single word.
I suppose this is a joke but just in case, there are plenty example of wizards doing wordless magic in the movies
@theophiled wrong. There are plenty of instances where they already said the spell and kept it going. Hagrid is the only wizard to do a spell without ever saying a word. And without a wand.
@@swinganamiss1194 😂 learn to read books
I want this theory to be true, Hagrid deserves to be rich.
Bet that dragon egg was very expensive
I'm pretty sure the malfoys are hundred billionaires. They are the richest wizard family in the UK.
Who gets Harris’s wealth after he passes, his brother or harry?
Not gonna lie, if I was rich, I’d live like Hagrid lol. Little with some woods and pastures for my horses lol.
Hagrid wrote the dictionary. Every time someone speaks English, he gets a royalty.
No evidence Dumbledore gave him a raise, just stick to the facts - he routinely deals on the black market, is casual with expensive materials, has saved 50 years of salary and he gave Harry expensive gifts. Gringott's is interesting but too many explanations to presume any. No way he's richer than the Malfoys or Lestranges. He's prosperous and generous but not mega-rich.
And his expensive tastes like having a dragon.
a schools grounds keeper is a real job with similar perks, and obviously they aren’t wealthy
Hagrid should have been wealthy but it's unlikely he'd ever press for raises. He had no desire to profit from his position. Had he done so, I'm sure the body and blood of dead unicorns alone would have set him up nicely. I doubt he'd have had an account at Gringotts, since Hogwarts was safer. Somehow I think that his hut might have had most of his salary tucked away somewhere, in the walls and beneath the floors. As for Hedwig, I'd guess at least 100 galleons. Hagrid would appreciate the more exotic animal more than galleons. Other owls were 10 or 15 galleons but she would have come from America. Had she been a male she'd have been more valuable since there is more white. That's why males were used in the movie.
I don’t think Hagrid is saving his money. It’s been implied that he is a massive drunk, and it takes a lot more for him to get drunk. I don’t know about you, but I have known plenty of drunks that will spend their whole paycheck at the bar.